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| 06:05.29 | bluipodcow | Camera distance max zoom factor still work ? |
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| 07:02.58 | Stanzilla | is there a way to turn off the new spellbook spell highlighting when the spell is not on your bars? |
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| 07:09.39 | VIad | why is that annoying? :d |
| 07:12.02 | VIad | I did a /reload before starting our m+ and at the beginning the chat bubble skinning addons failed, was told something about tainted or secure code something:o |
| 07:16.08 | bluipodcow | Real men use /console ReloadUI |
| 07:16.41 | bluipodcow | Or whip open the console and use ReloadUI there |
| 07:21.43 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.27 | VIad | blizz hotfixed the command center mission to reward 5 mil AP for AK28 |
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| 07:39.23 | VIad | so the explosive affix doesn't do 50% of my health as damage, probably mitigated by the flat magic dmg mitigator on me, and some avoidance gear I got :P |
| 07:40.19 | VIad | 6.16% from versa, 13.56% from avoidance, 20% from built in magic resistance |
| 07:40.53 | VIad | wonder if this is additive 39,72% |
| 07:41.24 | VIad | seems so |
| 07:41.56 | VIad | in practice I can face tank 3 explosions, not just one :D |
| 07:42.03 | VIad | or 2 I guess |
| 07:43.59 | nevcairiel | reduction is usually never additive but multiplicative |
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| 07:51.24 | bluipodcow | Well time for a nap |
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| 08:18.43 | VIad | nevcairiel: but doing a 39.72% dmg reduction (adding vers, avoidance and my flat 20%) makes sense math wise :/ |
| 08:19.00 | VIad | I took damage from one bomb, it did 2.2 something mil dmg |
| 08:19.04 | VIad | my health is nearly 7 mil |
| 08:19.13 | VIad | prydaz also took some of the hit |
| 08:19.35 | VIad | but working out the math it made more sense for the 40% dmg reduction, got a lower number using multiplicative |
| 08:21.00 | nevcairiel | additive is too strong though, thats not how it works. more likely you forgot some factor |
| 08:21.07 | VIad | nevcairiel: the enemy forces scenario thing makes no sense :/ |
| 08:21.48 | VIad | at max, the quantity and totalQuantity (arg4 and 5) fields are 100 and 335 |
| 08:22.01 | VIad | the arg8 string shows "335%" |
| 08:22.13 | VIad | what most progress addons seem to read to get the % value |
| 08:22.33 | VIad | looks like totalQuantity = the % |
| 08:22.44 | VIad | but it goes above 100% 335% means we got tripple the mob req.? :p |
| 08:23.29 | nevcairiel | its not actually a percentage, thats the raw number, you need 335 mob "points" to finish it, and various mobs yield various points |
| 08:23.50 | VIad | makes sense |
| 08:23.58 | VIad | but the current amount is capped at 100 |
| 08:24.04 | VIad | would expect it to also be 335 |
| 08:24.24 | VIad | https://pastebin.com/raw/y1xu1FQh |
| 08:24.33 | VIad | like thats the dump when we were at last boss, rest completed |
| 08:25.39 | VIad | would assume I can derrive a % out of these data points |
| 08:27.37 | VIad | I'd guess the % field is arg4 |
| 08:27.56 | VIad | since it stopped at 100, and was 0 when we started |
| 08:28.10 | VIad | doing arg4/arg5*100 did not give me the % xD |
| 08:29.03 | nevcairiel | yeah it doesnt seem to give you the raw progress |
| 08:29.32 | VIad | only the raw amount that I need for some reason |
| 08:29.48 | VIad | would really think it would make more sense if it just gave raw values, and let the UI make out the % :p |
| 08:31.54 | VIad | blizz UI also selects arg4 from that API to get the progress for the bar |
| 08:32.01 | VIad | so I'd assume their bar is set minmax 0 100 |
| 08:37.27 | VIad | nev, the API dont give decimals :)( |
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| 08:40.29 | nevcairiel | you can use the 8th return to get the current mob point value |
| 08:41.21 | nevcairiel | its a percentage string for some reason, but the number is true |
| 08:44.14 | VIad | hmm |
| 08:45.00 | VIad | yes, the arg4 is weird |
| 08:45.04 | VIad | didnt even reflect the % :/ |
| 08:45.18 | VIad | but the arg8 returns integers it seems, and can go above 100 |
| 08:45.23 | VIad | what about 98.28%? :( |
| 08:46.12 | nevcairiel | 329/335 = 98.2 :p |
| 08:47.34 | VIad | wait |
| 08:47.44 | VIad | where did you get 329? |
| 08:47.52 | VIad | ooh |
| 08:48.02 | nevcairiel | from arg8, if its not fully completed already |
| 08:48.05 | VIad | you mean arg8 shows the real value but adds % and makes it a string for no reason? |
| 08:48.20 | VIad | arg5 = the max, arg8 = the current as string with % for some reason |
| 08:48.29 | VIad | thats so weird |
| 08:50.18 | VIad | can do like tonumber(strsub(quantityString, 1, -2)) to get the value |
| 08:55.05 | VIad | nevcairiel: it's really tricky figuring out what you are in combat with :p |
| 08:55.29 | VIad | nameplate way is easiest, but inaccurate if not looking at them right |
| 08:55.36 | VIad | anything more complicated meh |
| 09:03.09 | nevcairiel | I like how explosive orbs dont have any aggro on the tank, that way their nameplates get a different color and its easy to spot them :D |
| 09:04.36 | VIad | I guess yeah |
| 09:04.39 | VIad | since its totem units |
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| 10:11.09 | VIad | I did the world quest yesterday in cath, didn't get rep |
| 10:11.14 | VIad | today I read hotfixed to give 250 rep |
| 10:11.26 | VIad | bet your ass it's not retroactively applied |
| 10:20.48 | karl_w_w | https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/64gne9/i_was_born_missing_my_right_pinky_finger/ |
| 10:32.48 | VIad | born a thief |
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| 17:03.13 | TheDanW | Ketho: i'll send to QA to look into |
| 17:03.48 | TheDanW | MuffinPvEHero: do you have an example recipe name? |
| 17:04.40 | MuffinPvEHero | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=160986/blackrock-barbecue - Spell id 160986 - returns {1, 1} |
| 17:05.52 | TheDanW | p3lim: i think it's a known issue, will forward to QA to verify |
| 17:06.14 | TheDanW | Stanzilla: pretty sure you have an addon thats causing that |
| 17:06.30 | Torhal | Or Semlar is causing it. |
| 17:06.43 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: probably, what is it doing wrong? asking to much/fast? |
| 17:06.47 | Stanzilla | *too |
| 17:07.52 | TheDanW | not sure, might be inadvertently causing some update attempts while its in an unexpected state, hidden perhaps? |
| 17:08.10 | Stanzilla | yeah the UI is hidden when it does its queries |
| 17:08.17 | Stanzilla | blizz ui that is |
| 17:08.23 | TheDanW | we should probably make it more robust, but i'm not sure of the chain of events that cause it |
| 17:08.50 | Stanzilla | it's WorldQuestGroupFinder |
| 17:09.01 | Stanzilla | it initiates a search when middle clicking a WQ name in the tracker |
| 17:09.09 | Stanzilla | in the background |
| 17:10.41 | TheDanW | MuffinPvEHero: i'm fairly certain that's "working as designed", the range function isn't intended for the scaling food quantities - not that it's a great user experience |
| 17:10.58 | TheDanW | Stanzilla: doesn't happen every time though |
| 17:11.06 | Stanzilla | correct |
| 17:11.15 | MuffinPvEHero | TheDanW: it has always returned the number produced, it just recently broke |
| 17:11.40 | Stanzilla | it also triggers "you are already signed up for too many groups" or whatever the correct wording is, UIError message pretty often, so it's probably not throttled properly |
| 17:13.56 | MuffinPvEHero | Blizzard_TradeSkillDetails.lua even uses it, |
| 17:13.58 | MuffinPvEHero | local minMade, maxMade = C_TradeSkillUI.GetRecipeNumItemsProduced(self.selectedRecipeID); |
| 17:15.03 | MuffinPvEHero | but it no longer returns valid values like it has for, to my knowledge, all of WoD and beginning of Legion |
| 17:15.06 | MuffinPvEHero | it broke in 7.2 |
| 17:16.10 | TheDanW | MuffinPvEHero: i see, didn't realize it broke in 7.2, the code didn't change so maybe design poked something, i'll poke them |
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| 17:17.35 | MuffinPvEHero | TheDanW: thanks sir! - and this is also my annual request to get the bound state of an item in your bags (not the bind type), I know you've said its unlikely but I just want to keep the request fresh lol |
| 17:17.42 | MuffinPvEHero | appreciate the communication either way :) |
| 17:21.54 | TheDanW | it's on the list, but no ETA currently |
| 17:22.06 | MuffinPvEHero | thanks! |
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| 17:48.14 | Simca_ | my wish is for proper events on when you gain items, currency, and money. something like: ITEM_GAINED with args like source_type (which could be an enum of source types, like looting npcs, or looting objects, or opening item containers), source id, and then item_id |
| 17:48.22 | Simca_ | (well item_link) |
| 17:49.19 | Simca_ | parsing system messages is all well and fine, but that is a flawed science at best, and one that has very recently gotten significantly harder as you've been simplifying system messages and trying to keep them universally similar (which actually significantly harms our ability to distinguish between loot sources) |
| 17:49.59 | nevcairiel | user experience > wowdb addons =p |
| 17:50.00 | Simca_ | anyway i know that's a long shot lol |
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| 18:00.31 | MuffinPvEHero | Did some way of determining an item is a crafting reagent |
| 18:00.38 | MuffinPvEHero | *make it into the game |
| 18:00.45 | MuffinPvEHero | I remember talking about it in here pre-legion |
| 18:01.02 | MuffinPvEHero | (as in the items labeled Reagent that can be deposited into the special bank) |
| 18:01.10 | MuffinPvEHero | its been too long and I am old :P |
| 18:04.10 | nevcairiel | Yeah that should be in |
| 18:04.17 | nevcairiel | I forgot which API had it tho |
| 18:07.48 | Ketho | TheDanW: thanks |
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| 18:53.08 | Ketho | why do the blizzard forums briefly flash white when browsing https://gfycat.com/AgileEveryHarvestmen |
| 18:53.25 | Ketho | this only happens for me on chrome, not edge or firefox |
| 18:54.17 | Gnarfoz | probably Chrome being an asshole |
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| 18:55.56 | Maldivia | Ketho: same here |
| 18:56.53 | Stanzilla | Maldivia: happy belated birthday, I totally forgot |
| 18:57.05 | Maldivia | thanks :D |
| 19:00.18 | Maldivia | Ketho:for me, the main css file takes ages to load, which is probably why |
| 19:00.45 | Maldivia | (and by ages, I means 450ms) |
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| 19:05.55 | Andols | "We apologise again for the inconvenience caused by today's outages. We're working on a solution. More updates in an hour. " So I guess they have a ETA that is more than one hour |
| 19:07.08 | Ketho | main-c21d6d8877.css loads for me within 20 to 100 ms if that's the one |
| 19:08.51 | Ketho | probably chrome just being weird :( |
| 19:10.55 | PhatsoTGT | hey can i only use given metaevents in the metatables or can i add custom keys that i use to classify a tables behavior a little more? |
| 19:12.28 | nevcairiel | you can shove whatever you want into a metatable |
| 19:12.37 | nevcairiel | but they just wont do anything automatically |
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| 21:37.30 | VIad | didn't expect to make a reddit thread that would get popular like this :o pleasantly surprised |
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| 21:43.45 | Andols | Oh, you made that :) |
| 21:44.07 | Ketho | tmw I didn't look at the username only to find out it was you |
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| 22:04.56 | VIad | are you sad now that you know? |
| 22:38.06 | fewyn | sigh my wow install is back up to 44gb |
| 22:39.17 | nevcairiel | ~40 is about normal with 7.2 |
| 22:39.17 | purl | nevcairiel: okay |
| 22:39.24 | nevcairiel | purl: forget 40 |
| 22:39.24 | purl | nevcairiel: i forgot 40 |
| 22:39.37 | nevcairiel | so its not quite that big |
| 22:39.39 | Gnarfoz | mine is also 44 |
| 22:39.41 | fewyn | my SSD is too small |
| 22:39.46 | fewyn | i only have a 120gb SSD |
| 22:39.55 | fewyn | maybe time for an upgrade? |
| 22:39.59 | nevcairiel | my data folder is almost exactly 40 |
| 22:40.01 | Gnarfoz | what is this, an SSD for ants? |
| 22:40.02 | nevcairiel | but i reinstalled with 7.2 |
| 22:41.02 | nevcairiel | i have bigger unused ssds flying around my desk here |
| 22:41.17 | nevcairiel | somewhere in all this garbage |
| 22:41.53 | nevcairiel | speaking about ssds, i have been thinking about buying a 2tb model or some such and entirely removing the spinning disk |
| 22:42.32 | nevcairiel | although it might get close to being full then |
| 22:42.41 | nevcairiel | so maybe a 4tb, but those are still really pricy |
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| 22:43.37 | nevcairiel | 850 evo 4tb is almost 1400 euros :( |
| 22:45.20 | Gnarfoz | so... 1 month of Curse points, then? |
| 22:45.41 | nevcairiel | slightly above that these days |
| 22:45.45 | nevcairiel | but still feels like a lot! |
| 22:46.27 | nevcairiel | can an ssd thats not even your primary system drive be the most expensive component in your system? |
| 22:46.36 | nevcairiel | i should buy a new titan to balance that out |
| 22:46.50 | Gnarfoz | clearly |
| 22:47.04 | Gnarfoz | that's what I would do! |
| 22:47.22 | nevcairiel | hm no german prices for the titan yet |
| 22:47.32 | nevcairiel | but not going to happen anyway |
| 22:48.54 | fewyn | i wonder what's in the AFFORDABLE range |
| 22:49.12 | Gnarfoz | same thing he mentioned, just small |
| 22:49.22 | fewyn | evo 850 for hundro bucks |
| 22:49.25 | fewyn | 250gb |
| 22:50.57 | Gnarfoz | which cache file do I need to clear for these weird locale mixup tooltips to go away, nevcairiel? |
| 22:51.05 | Gnarfoz | gameobject? |
| 22:51.13 | fewyn | i better stop looking at SSDs or else i'm going to spend money |
| 22:51.22 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: dunno, just delete them all |
| 22:51.23 | Gnarfoz | I guess all of them can't really hurt, either way |
| 23:04.16 | nevcairiel | i even had zone names go into the wrong language once, suddenly people were in Verheerte Küste, or whatever the german name was |
| 23:04.21 | nevcairiel | so its not just gameobjects either way |
| 23:04.37 | nevcairiel | one of my talents has been german for a week now, wonder how long a cache clear holds =p |
| 23:06.51 | Gnarfoz | either it got corrupted again instantly or it didn't work :D |
| 23:07.31 | nevcairiel | maybe they hotfixed something and for some reason the hotfix data is localized now |
| 23:09.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Ssateneth (ident@unaffiliated/ssateneth) |
| 23:48.03 | Semlar | Stanzilla: i used to get that error all the time when i wrote an addon that automatically signed me up for groups during the pre-legion event |
| 23:48.13 | Semlar | i was pretty sure i complained about it in here but i can't find it in the logs |
| 23:48.43 | Semlar | i remember complaining about it to a dev, probably guill |
| 23:52.49 | znf | Is anyone experiencing Netflix going all "continue watching" every damn episode? |
| 23:53.09 | Semlar | i don't know what that means |
| 23:54.01 | Semlar | when an episode finishes it just starts the next one for me |
| 23:58.39 | Semlar | apparently netflix checks that you're still alive if it thinks you've been watching too much netflix |
| 23:59.21 | Semlar | but i've never managed to make that happen |