| 00:00.25 | Semlar | so you may be able to use this to figure out whether something is in your line of sight to cast a spell on |
| 00:01.14 | Stanzillaz | wow |
| 00:01.18 | Stanzillaz | way to ruin it already |
| 00:01.36 | Semlar | :x |
| 00:01.51 | Kesava | orite |
| 00:01.51 | Semlar | look, it's not my fault there isn't an api function to do that |
| 00:02.05 | TheDanW | foxlit: what would you suggest? some sort of "first-added" version? |
| 00:02.29 | Stanzillaz | I want to learn more about the ErrorFilter cvars |
| 00:03.03 | TheDanW | nebula: it should be improved greatly |
| 00:04.36 | TheDanW | Semlar, Kesava: nameplateOccludedAlphaMult applies when your character's LoS to that target is occluded - roughly the same as if hitting a keybind for a spell would give you the not in los error |
| 00:05.05 | Semlar | can we get an api function that tells us whether a particular unit is in our line of sight |
| 00:05.19 | TheDanW | by default its disabled, but feel free to mess with it, we're considering turning it on by default |
| 00:05.31 | Semlar | i think it's actually enabled by default because its default value is 0.4 |
| 00:05.45 | TheDanW | on PTR? |
| 00:05.49 | TheDanW | on live it should be 1.0 |
| 00:05.51 | Semlar | noo on live |
| 00:06.35 | TheDanW | oh thats right |
| 00:06.45 | TheDanW | its disabled for your current target |
| 00:07.21 | Semlar | ironically, one of the few units i'd like to be able to know whether i can cast on |
| 00:07.43 | Semlar | but i understand that's not the point of the setting |
| 00:08.03 | Semlar | you don't want it messing with the alpha of your target nameplate |
| 00:08.15 | TheDanW | it was a last minute change to effectively disable it, we're looking at changing a few things before enabling it |
| 00:08.44 | Stanzillaz | if that makes it so I no longer have to see nameplates through the floor and walls, I love you |
| 00:08.59 | Semlar | well, even if it does you can still click on them |
| 00:09.01 | TheDanW | you can set it to 0 and it will |
| 00:09.05 | Stanzillaz | <3 |
| 00:09.32 | TheDanW | yeah, they are still clickable though |
| 00:09.38 | Semlar | how feasible would it be to just disable mouse interaction with any nameplates that have an alpha of 0 |
| 00:10.05 | TheDanW | seems reasonable, as long as its alpha calculated from the cvars |
| 00:10.13 | Semlar | right |
| 00:10.32 | TheDanW | i'll make a note |
| 00:10.40 | Semlar | i'm not sure whether that would mess anything up |
| 00:10.53 | Semlar | i can't think of any reason why you'd want to be able to click on an invisible nameplate |
| 00:11.17 | Kesava | ! |
| 00:11.21 | TheDanW | the default cvars would never put it at 0, so you'd be opting into it somehow |
| 00:11.23 | Kesava | that'd be excellent |
| 00:11.45 | Stanzillaz | yeah |
| 00:12.08 | Stanzillaz | TheDanW: any insight on the ErrorLevel cvars? does it let you hide taint warnings or is it not at all Lua related? |
| 00:12.30 | TheDanW | ErrorFilter? |
| 00:12.59 | TheDanW | or ErrorLevelMin/Max? |
| 00:13.04 | Stanzillaz | ErrorFilter |
| 00:13.04 | Stanzillaz | ErrorLevelMax |
| 00:13.04 | Stanzillaz | ErrorLevelMin |
| 00:13.06 | Stanzillaz | yup |
| 00:13.07 | Stanzillaz | sorry |
| 00:14.30 | TheDanW | they've been around for awhile, it's mostly for general client debugging; i'm sure it would be useful to you |
| 00:14.36 | TheDanW | i'm not sure, rather |
| 00:14.42 | moogol | ok so ShowMerchantSellCursor was apparently removed as well since it wasn't needed, and so was GetSpellTextureFileName (should use GetSpellTexture? instead) |
| 00:14.56 | Stanzillaz | ah ok |
| 00:14.57 | Stanzillaz | thanks :) |
| 00:15.21 | Simca | getspelltexturefilename is impossible, yeah |
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| 00:23.58 | TheDanW | foxlit: the docs get built fresh from source every time, neither have an easy place for stamping/diffing |
| 00:24.24 | moogol | one issue is that GetSpellTextureFileName allowed using spellid as an argument whereis GetSpellTexture doesn't |
| 00:25.40 | nebula | why wouldn't it? |
| 00:25.41 | TheDanW | moogol: GetSpellTexture certainly allows spell ids |
| 00:27.49 | moogol | oh, I had a comment in the code somewhere where I had to use it, maybe I mucked up something thanks |
| 00:28.18 | nebula | name/id/link is usually interchangable |
| 00:32.35 | foxlit | _UI_PATCH_72 static int foo (lua_State *L) {} time ;) |
| 00:39.00 | TheDanW | yeah, i don't want to manually tag every function ;p |
| 00:40.35 | foxlit | hoho, don't forget every argument and return value too. |
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| 00:51.58 | foxlit | (It's mainly args and returns anyway, since I can diff function lists externally) |
| 00:52.46 | FireSiku | Making sure im not missing anything, /api doesn't have a way to display information on function returns right? |
| 00:55.18 | foxlit | It has the data, and I'm reasonably sure it has the formatting logic. |
| 00:56.05 | foxlit | But you can also view it through https://www.townlong-yak.com/bad/ if you like. |
| 00:57.00 | FireSiku | Ooh, that's pretty neat. I was looking at it through your framexml browser. This is much better :P |
| 00:58.36 | FireSiku | Seems like the data is there in case someone wants to make a GUI implementation. Or a website one in your case. |
| 00:59.17 | fewyn | the new twitch/curse app thingie can see the future apparently http://i.imgur.com/IkqcoJk.png |
| 00:59.22 | FireSiku | In any cases, I absolutely love this. Can't wait for it to be expanded to the rest of the API, soon(tm) |
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| 01:06.01 | Stanzillaz | EU patching \o/ |
| 01:07.12 | _Kee | townlong-yak.com/bad/ looks pretty cool, exactly what I wanted. I wish documentation will be completed soon(tm), along with short description (what it makes), detailed notes (where neccessary or helpful), and short, minimal examples, even community made. This has a huge potential, to be always up-to-date, correct documentation. |
| 01:08.45 | _Kee | Glad to see beginning of something great. Hope it won't get scrapped over time. |
| 01:20.37 | TheDanW | FireSiku: you can click on anything that is colored in /api, so you can see args/returns etc |
| 01:23.36 | TheDanW | the hope is for 7.2.5 to have ALL events in the auto-doc |
| 01:23.49 | TheDanW | functions are going to take awhile to convert |
| 01:26.48 | TheDanW | you can also shift+click a function in the /api docs to insert a /dump automatically |
| 01:28.15 | TheDanW | if you implement a function named "CopyToClipboard(text)" that opens an editbox or something and SetTexts the text then it'll write out the full call including returns |
| 01:29.20 | TheDanW | for example, CopyToClipboard = ChatFrame_OpenChat |
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| 01:58.00 | Simca | trilliax is bugged lol |
| 01:58.13 | Simca | his beam wipes the whole room |
| 01:58.28 | Simca | unkillable basically |
| 01:59.04 | nebula | git gud |
| 02:00.11 | Simca | there's technically still a safe zone, but it's about 40 degrees out of 360 |
| 02:00.29 | Simca | need incredible reactions from the entire raid to survive |
| 02:03.06 | Stanzillaz | yeah its bugged |
| 02:03.08 | Stanzillaz | also elisande |
| 02:03.24 | Stanzillaz | @WarcraftDevs: We've isolated the issue causing Trilliax to behave oddly (as well as a few other issues) and are working to fix it ASAP. |
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| 03:12.42 | FireSiku | TheDanW: Wondering, when you say functions are going to take a while to convert, do you mean adding them to the auto-doc, or turning them into C_Table.Functions and -then- adding them to auto-doc? |
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| 03:52.23 | Mr_Rabies | spell queueing feels really weird :( |
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| 05:50.52 | Mr_Rabies | oh, it's set to 400, no wonder |
| 05:50.57 | Mr_Rabies | dropped it to 50 and we're golden |
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| 06:04.29 | znf | wtf is that about mobs scaling with ilvl |
| 06:05.58 | Mr_Rabies | does seem to be the case, i hope they reverse that and soon |
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| 06:07.48 | znf | that's incredibly retarded and goes against the whole idea of a MMO |
| 06:08.10 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 06:08.11 | znf | why gear up, then, if you're going to kill mobs in the world just as slow as when you were leveling up? |
| 06:08.27 | bluspacecow | this about the ilevel scaling thang ? |
| 06:08.35 | znf | yeah, what's that about? |
| 06:08.53 | bluspacecow | have you seen watcher's post on it ? |
| 06:09.13 | Mr_Rabies | it may not be 1:1 but feral is incredibly squishy so dying to stuff i've been killing easily kinda feels bad |
| 06:09.41 | znf | no, where? |
| 06:09.53 | bluspacecow | uno momento sir |
| 06:10.08 | znf | found it |
| 06:10.18 | bluspacecow | dis one ? https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20753795863?page=26#post-502 |
| 06:10.43 | bluspacecow | da done stole ma update all button in curse client! |
| 06:10.54 | Mr_Rabies | >When someone trying to wind up a 2.5sec cast can't get a nuke off against a quest target before another player charges in and one-shots it, that feels broken |
| 06:11.03 | bluspacecow | now i has to *hand over forhead dramatically* click to update each one .... |
| 06:11.11 | Mr_Rabies | I think the solution is maybe consider why the player that can kill something that fast still has a reason to kill that thing |
| 06:11.46 | bluspacecow | it looked at me wrong |
| 06:11.49 | bluspacecow | and insulted my mother |
| 06:11.52 | Mr_Rabies | that's a good reason |
| 06:12.05 | znf | it's not |
| 06:12.11 | znf | I like feeling powerful and one-shoting mobs |
| 06:12.26 | Mr_Rabies | also a good reason |
| 06:12.37 | znf | why gear up, otherwise? |
| 06:12.43 | Mr_Rabies | a reason that isn't, is that you have to kill it to keep up with progression when you've already done that so much you can kill it instantly |
| 06:13.51 | znf | it's also incredibly stupid to hide the change until people stumble upon it |
| 06:14.01 | znf | they knew there would be a backlash |
| 06:14.06 | Constie | Maybe you should read the post. |
| 06:14.09 | znf | they knew the community would rage over it |
| 06:14.16 | znf | I did. |
| 06:14.34 | Mr_Rabies | they said "yeah we did hide it but only because we thought no one would notice" |
| 06:14.57 | znf | it's sketchy as fuck |
| 06:15.14 | Constie | Actual quote: "It was not to be deceptive; we know it's impossible to hide a change from millions of players." |
| 06:15.40 | Mr_Rabies | "....But the system was meant to feel largely transparent and subtle," |
| 06:15.51 | Mr_Rabies | aka "we didn't think it was worth mentioning because we didn't think anyone would notice" |
| 06:16.16 | Constie | I think maybe you're not as good at reading as you think you are. |
| 06:17.03 | Mr_Rabies | i think you need to learn to read between the lines and not just take these things at face value, when they're already admitting to a soft deception in blue text there |
| 06:17.49 | znf | also, there's some good points in that thread |
| 06:17.51 | znf | what about healers? |
| 06:17.53 | Mr_Rabies | they weren't like "oh yeah we just forgot to put it in the notes" they literally said "we hope it'd be subtle enough that you wouldn't notice" |
| 06:18.43 | Constie | Don't forget to mention that it's a literal slap in the face. |
| 06:18.45 | znf | I enjoy going out in the world and doting 10 mobs and running around until they die, now they'll probably kick my ass |
| 06:19.19 | Mr_Rabies | i've died more today in the old pre 7.2 stuff than i have in the past 6 months |
| 06:19.28 | Mr_Rabies | at least 3-4 times |
| 06:19.38 | Mr_Rabies | feral is squishy as heck :( |
| 06:20.05 | Mr_Rabies | constie, i'd feel better if they at least lied and said they forgot to mention it |
| 06:20.30 | Constie | I kind of get the impression you'd feel the same way no matter what. |
| 06:20.39 | Mr_Rabies | but saying "yeah this is intentional but we hid it because we knew you'd be mad if we did and we hoped you wouldn't notice" is pretty fucked up and indefensible |
| 06:21.32 | Mr_Rabies | it sullies an otherwise pretty interesting patch with some nice QoL changes |
| 06:22.35 | znf | the whole excuse post is ridiculous, too |
| 06:22.51 | znf | why increase the damage done, too? |
| 06:23.07 | znf | you say you want them to have more health so people don't one-shot mobs you are fighting, but why make them hit harder? |
| 06:23.37 | Constie | Because it increases their relative power level, presumably. |
| 06:25.12 | bluspacecow | 24 more addons to update *rolls up sleeve and beefs up clicking finger* |
| 06:26.12 | znf | *shrug* guess I'm not reactivating my subscription today |
| 06:26.32 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 06:26.33 | znf | I'm not looking forward at being a squishy shadowy blob again like back in 7.0 |
| 06:26.55 | Mr_Rabies | i mean there's almost no way they won't at least somewhat revert it |
| 06:27.02 | nevcairiel | just increasing health would just result in some aoe fest |
| 06:27.21 | Semlar | TheDanW: did you guys change something about dual artifact weapons that might affect me scanning their tooltips |
| 06:27.21 | nevcairiel | also increasing their hits ensures that tanks and healers have to work too |
| 06:27.40 | znf | nevcairiel, but healers already have to work more now |
| 06:27.52 | Constie | I honestly haven't noticed a difference as Shadow. Mobs have 1.2m HP instead of 1m, but that's still just one cast with Misery, and they'd have to increase the damage a lot to outdo the healing from VT. |
| 06:27.55 | znf | healers already kill things rather slow compared to DPS |
| 06:28.12 | Mr_Rabies | it feels AWFUL and i'm basically inches from death while doing most WQs solo |
| 06:28.47 | znf | the rate that post count is increasing in that thread on the official forum is delicious |
| 06:33.26 | Mr_Rabies | it's a pretty good patch otherwise and i'm sure they'll revert it at least partially if not fully at this point, znf |
| 06:33.35 | nevcairiel | the said the scaling might be a bit too steep right now |
| 06:33.40 | nevcairiel | and they wont revert it fully |
| 06:33.43 | nevcairiel | did you ever pay attention =p |
| 06:34.10 | Mr_Rabies | they say that now, before the real shitstorm builds |
| 06:34.23 | nevcairiel | as if they care |
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| 06:34.34 | nevcairiel | people whine about anything |
| 06:34.46 | _Kee | Curse client shows me than I have an addon with X version installed, and Up to Date, and Latest Version is Y (Y < X). I have newer addon than Latest? |
| 06:34.53 | znf | there's no more curse client! |
| 06:35.02 | nevcairiel | actually there still is |
| 06:35.13 | znf | there is?! why did mine upgrade wtf |
| 06:35.20 | nevcairiel | mine is still curse |
| 06:35.27 | _Kee | my bad, it's "Curse" without client |
| 06:35.30 | nevcairiel | only people on alpha got upgraded |
| 06:35.38 | _Kee | "Curse client" stopped working for me few weeks ago |
| 06:35.45 | Mr_Rabies | i can't merge my curse and twitch accounts for some reason :( |
| 06:36.03 | Mr_Rabies | i'll just wait for the forced change i guess |
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| 06:39.17 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 06:39.18 | bluspacecow | me |
| 06:39.27 | bluspacecow | i just single click to update each one of my addons |
| 06:40.25 | znf | like a paesant |
| 06:41.01 | tz | I'm just happy twitch automatically redirects the webpage when you don't have 3rdparty cookies enabled |
| 06:41.13 | tz | it's too hard for microsoft, apparently |
| 06:41.19 | bluspacecow | lol https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20753945224 |
| 06:41.31 | bluspacecow | addon noob despite playing since 2008 ?? |
| 06:41.51 | znf | heh |
| 06:42.03 | tz | seems like it's negatively affecting his play experience, if he's complaining about it |
| 06:42.41 | bluspacecow | but this can't be his first go around the patch day addon craziness madness |
| 06:42.53 | bluspacecow | this cant be his first rodeo |
| 06:43.04 | Semlar | alright i figured it out, dual artifact weapons are returning nothing when you set a tooltip for their main hand and call tooltip:GetItem() on them |
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| 06:43.36 | bluspacecow | and now you has to figure out some workaround arcane coding magic to get around it right Semlar ? |
| 06:44.11 | Semlar | eg. inspecting a rogue with kingslayers, hovering over the main hand and calling /dump GameTooltip:GetItem() doesn't actually give you kingslayer datas |
| 06:44.24 | Semlar | oddly enough it does work for the offhand |
| 06:44.43 | bluspacecow | it gives you |
| 06:44.48 | bluspacecow | strawberry shortcake data |
| 06:45.00 | Semlar | it gives you an empty string for the name and a mostly empty item link |
| 06:45.35 | bluspacecow | thats a bad strawberry shortcake recipie |
| 06:46.07 | tz | I've only got one addon throwing errors |
| 06:46.20 | tz | I know where to tick the checkbox to stop it from running |
| 06:46.25 | tz | shame that guy can't work it out |
| 06:46.42 | bluspacecow | i has none |
| 06:46.55 | bluspacecow | i haven't played in months so have not updated in months |
| 06:47.00 | bluspacecow | sat down with curse client |
| 06:47.11 | bluspacecow | clicked like 24 times |
| 06:47.12 | bluspacecow | updated |
| 06:47.25 | tz | I basically just log on to fix shit for my addons and log off |
| 06:47.44 | bluspacecow | made sure load out of date was on , disabled everything but ACP |
| 06:47.49 | bluspacecow | then in game loaded my usual UI |
| 06:48.03 | bluspacecow | 0 errors. thank you to all the addon authors for their hard work |
| 06:48.13 | tz | nods |
| 06:48.34 | Mr_Rabies | ive got like 5 throwing errors but i have bugsack and they're not very serious |
| 06:48.57 | Mr_Rabies | mostly datastore going OH GOD WHAT IS THIS ARTIFACT |
| 06:49.37 | bluspacecow | OH GOD ITS GROWING TENTACLES AND MUTTERING ELDERITCH INSULTS |
| 06:49.42 | tz | have we got a list of the API changes? did the no-open-artifactUI stuff get in? |
| 06:50.20 | znf | oh my god |
| 06:50.23 | znf | I was freezing my ass off |
| 06:50.33 | znf | I mistakenly turned my AC to cold |
| 06:50.44 | znf | instead of heating |
| 06:50.54 | znf | and it was set to "continous" |
| 07:08.36 | znf | thread is at 43 pages now |
| 07:09.31 | nevcairiel | and how many distinct people defending their crazy positions against each other? |
| 07:09.38 | nevcairiel | its the wow forum, post count means shit |
| 07:09.39 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 07:10.13 | Constie | Like, I wouldn't exactly say it's suddenly impossible to solo more than one regular mob at a time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__gGTwkxQaE |
| 07:10.59 | nevcairiel | of course its not, people just use hyperbole with everything |
| 07:11.07 | nevcairiel | it makes their arguments super weak, but they still do it |
| 07:13.30 | nevcairiel | most of those complaining on the forum probably wouldnt even have noticed if they werent told |
| 07:14.23 | Mr_Rabies | i thought broken shore was just insanely overtuned and was like "well this is gonna be next to impossible on my DK" |
| 07:14.50 | Mr_Rabies | then i went into the isles and realized everything was suddenly kicking my ass |
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| 07:15.25 | Constie | Are you sure you have your weapon equipped? |
| 07:15.35 | Mr_Rabies | i think i might do better if i didn't |
| 07:27.52 | znf | most likely you would :D |
| 07:27.55 | znf | less hp on mobs |
| 07:30.23 | nevcairiel | hyperbole doesnt help anyones argument |
| 07:30.55 | Mr_Rabies | it's a valid tactic |
| 07:31.13 | nevcairiel | it j ust gets your argument ignored by any sensible person |
| 07:31.57 | Mr_Rabies | clear hyperbole is still better than obvious deception, so i'd say i come out ahead of blizzard here |
| 07:33.15 | nevcairiel | so you are one of those calling blizzard liars about everything, check |
| 07:33.24 | Mr_Rabies | hey nevcairiel |
| 07:33.30 | Mr_Rabies | you shouldn't use hyperbole |
| 07:33.34 | Mr_Rabies | it makes your argument look bad |
| 07:33.41 | nevcairiel | just getting down to a level you understand, apparently |
| 07:34.26 | bluspacecow | i dont' get how , from a development side of things so many changes are undocumented tho |
| 07:34.35 | Mr_Rabies | i mean |
| 07:34.37 | bluspacecow | i mean. i get that there's different teams that submit code |
| 07:34.44 | Mr_Rabies | they specifically said they didn't forget it |
| 07:34.50 | Mr_Rabies | it was intentional to omit it |
| 07:35.11 | Mr_Rabies | because they knew people would throw a shitfit if it was in the notes, and they were hoping it'd fly under the radar |
| 07:35.14 | bluspacecow | im not talking just that sneaky nerf change thing. the other sutff |
| 07:35.19 | Mr_Rabies | oh |
| 07:35.23 | bluspacecow | its like |
| 07:35.37 | nevcairiel | please, as if they ever thought they could hide something like this |
| 07:35.38 | bluspacecow | each team has their own builds that all get submitted to a master build |
| 07:35.38 | Mr_Rabies | well, they change stuff without properly logging it, apparently |
| 07:35.48 | bluspacecow | there should be notes on their changes before it goes up the chain |
| 07:35.59 | Mr_Rabies | nevcairiel, they essentially say as such "we didn't think we could hide it but we tried anyway" |
| 07:36.36 | Mr_Rabies | which, in business speak means "well we tried to hide it and we got caught so time to eat a little crow" |
| 07:36.38 | Constie | And they also essentially said they're evil liars who hate you personally. |
| 07:37.06 | Ssateneth | why was /startattack functionality changed? |
| 07:37.21 | bluspacecow | #reasons |
| 07:37.23 | Ssateneth | it doesnt aquire a near target anymore and start attacking |
| 07:37.29 | Ssateneth | annoying |
| 07:37.34 | znf | because there was a clear melee advantage |
| 07:37.36 | znf | obviously |
| 07:38.07 | Mr_Rabies | someone at blizzard saved us from the scourge of hunters in pugs, Ssateneth |
| 07:38.23 | VIad | have we whined about ilvl scaling on mobs yet? |
| 07:38.26 | znf | yes |
| 07:38.29 | znf | all morning |
| 07:38.37 | VIad | good. because it's whine worthy. |
| 07:39.03 | VIad | removing weakest 1-2 items to drop avg ilvl dramatically to make stuff easier, is borderline backwards. |
| 07:39.19 | VIad | just to get the time to kill stuff down, you unequip to make yourself weaker, wot? |
| 07:39.48 | nevcairiel | thats never something that should work and blizzard will fix such exploits |
| 07:39.56 | Mr_Rabies | there's really no excuse for it other than to artificially extend old content, but i take less issue with the actual change and more with the deception |
| 07:40.07 | VIad | "mob ilvl scaling now looks at your in bags ilvl, not only equipped avg" |
| 07:40.22 | Constie | Like, I wouldn't exactly say it's suddenly impossible to solo more than one regular mob at a time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__gGTwkxQaE |
| 07:40.27 | Ssateneth | so now i need to delete gear then restore it? |
| 07:40.27 | znf | "oh, I see you have 4 legendaries in your bags, that's a mighty high average ilvl you have there" |
| 07:40.37 | Ssateneth | just to do dailies? |
| 07:40.46 | nevcairiel | znf: it doesnt count excess ilvl anymore in 7.2 |
| 07:40.49 | VIad | I had 921 with legos in bags, havent played yet, at work, but omg it would be insane I guess :D |
| 07:40.56 | nevcairiel | excess legendaries, i mean |
| 07:41.00 | znf | Constie, now dismiss Sol |
| 07:41.03 | nevcairiel | bag ilvl for me went down 10 points |
| 07:41.07 | Mr_Rabies | just stop doing dailies and hope the metrics will contribute to them rolling it back entirely |
| 07:41.13 | VIad | I am still almost 910 ilvl as tank that will take me 5 min to kill one elite >_> |
| 07:41.35 | VIad | my dps spec is 905 but I got shit trinkets and legos so my offspec will be severely punished |
| 07:41.58 | VIad | like I can go dps, I won't do as much as other bis 905 ilvl people, and I will probably die, while they got the dps to push through |
| 07:42.03 | nevcairiel | please, try first whine later |
| 07:42.04 | Constie | I'm not sure what that would prove, znf. |
| 07:42.10 | nevcairiel | its not as terrible as everyone makes it out to be |
| 07:42.47 | Mr_Rabies | i tried it before noticing it, i told two people today that there was no way they'd do that and broken shore is just tuned too high |
| 07:42.50 | VIad | in reddit like tons of bugs this patch |
| 07:43.08 | Mr_Rabies | turns out nope being feral is suffering until they revert it or give us some decent survivability |
| 07:43.18 | VIad | trilliax, elisandre bugs, projectiles seem broken, frost balls for mages |
| 07:44.16 | Mr_Rabies | this expansion has had a lot less emphasis on "when it's done", for better or for worse |
| 07:44.34 | nevcairiel | they say that every expansion, too |
| 07:45.44 | Mr_Rabies | sometimes it's great they didn't push back a patch a month because of some minor stuff, but most guilds calling off at least last night's raid on a patch night is kind of a big deal |
| 07:46.43 | Mr_Rabies | we were gonna call it off cause of people getting home late etc anyway so it didn't really affect us |
| 07:47.08 | Mr_Rabies | it just made me feel a bit vindicated in deciding to call it off after the fact :v |
| 07:47.21 | VIad | trilliax beam and the internal hitbox is not synched, so you wipe on it :D |
| 07:47.33 | VIad | animation keeps going, but the dmg zone swaps rotation as usual |
| 07:47.55 | VIad | pretty bad if you were clearing and trilliax roflstomped you xd |
| 07:48.01 | Constie | It's pretty messed up that Ghostcrawler lied and told us raiding would be fine this patch night.. |
| 07:48.27 | VIad | probably worked on the PTR build, broke during patching, dunno |
| 07:50.04 | bshelden | Just got done my first evening on the broken isle. Tank SH. 670 ilvl. Never even noticed a problem. |
| 07:50.09 | bshelden | Tank DH* |
| 07:50.35 | VIad | no wonder, 670 is probably using the old scaling where things are level tuned instead of ilvl |
| 07:50.43 | bshelden | I'll chalk the crap tuning up to patch day woes. Should be fixed by the time I get back to the game next week. |
| 07:50.59 | bshelden | Cotank is 883. Didn't notice anything either. |
| 07:51.01 | VIad | also the assault scenario when you hit 98 and go to broken shore thing, is NPC carried you can just afk it and still make it :P |
| 07:51.02 | nevcairiel | i'm sure he means 870 |
| 07:51.10 | bshelden | 870 yes |
| 07:51.23 | VIad | I thought he meant the introduction scenario for legion xd |
| 07:51.43 | bshelden | Got there at 863. Fixed things quicky with the catchup crappy stuff. |
| 07:51.43 | VIad | they say scaling breaks when you are around 900 and above |
| 07:51.52 | Mr_Rabies | i wish i knew that today -- i died twice to it, vlad :( |
| 07:51.52 | bshelden | I'd believe it. Oh well, bugs are bugs., |
| 07:51.54 | VIad | that the algorithm scales stuff aggresively |
| 07:52.13 | bshelden | I'm heading on vacation. By the time I get back, this crap should be fixed. |
| 07:52.15 | Mr_Rabies | i figured it needed input from me to continue |
| 07:52.17 | VIad | Mr_Rabies: it's a scripted thing, the npcs will kill all for you, you just need to afk in the corner and follow them ^^ |
| 07:52.53 | Mr_Rabies | that was my first instance of "oh geez my alts are gonna die a lot to this" |
| 07:53.11 | Mr_Rabies | turns out there's some kind of terrible scaling involved instead |
| 07:53.20 | Mr_Rabies | and my alts will proabbly have an easier time |
| 07:53.46 | VIad | looked at the 100-110 scaling, done dungeons with friends and noticed the combat logs are batshit insane :d |
| 07:53.49 | Mr_Rabies | especially if they remove said terrible scaling |
| 07:54.06 | VIad | you'd at least expect people to be in the same order on dps right, but different numbers, same %, nope! |
| 07:54.22 | Mr_Rabies | skada's pretty broken right now, or the combat log, or something |
| 07:54.24 | VIad | the order what people appear in and their % can hugely vary between the low level meters |
| 07:54.41 | Mr_Rabies | my dps kept oscillating between 800k and 400k in lfr, in second increments |
| 07:55.18 | VIad | some people said that retadins one of their abilities sometimes hit for 90k and other times for 400k and it was odd, maybe some bugs going on with some spells |
| 07:55.26 | VIad | mage frost orb hitbox also broken for some, sometimes |
| 07:55.34 | VIad | the frost orb can just pass the enemy :d |
| 08:10.11 | Shockah | so how did the artifact API change? |
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| 08:19.17 | znf | Shockah, they added artifactTier |
| 08:20.00 | znf | to C_ArtifactUI.GetCostForPointAtRank and C_ArtifactUI.GetEquippedArtifactInfo() (from the top off my head) |
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| 08:35.04 | p3lim | Semlar: https://i.p3lim.net/170329-103402.png |
| 08:35.15 | p3lim | foglight looking a bit weird |
| 08:40.35 | nevcairiel | need a data update |
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| 08:48.31 | Andols2 | I just did the broken shore and didn't notice anything |
| 08:48.39 | Andols2 | Felt too easy imo |
| 08:51.43 | Andols2 | Did the (broken) scaling apply there or only the "old" broken isles? |
| 08:52.15 | nevcairiel | supposedly everywhere, but its hard to find actual facts between all the hyperbole and whine |
| 08:56.43 | nevcairiel | but i found the broken shore to also be just fine |
| 08:57.01 | nevcairiel | (not the scenario mind you, but the actual zone and its quests) |
| 08:59.16 | p3lim | TheDanW: could you add Nightbane to the Adventure Guide? It's not really a secret any more :p |
| 09:05.12 | Andols2 | I would say that the scenario and the zone quests is undertuned (892 ilvl) |
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| 10:22.50 | Shockah | uhhh http://i.imgur.com/mLgg6a0.png |
| 10:23.07 | Shockah | i just got the Champions of Power achievement after using one of the new follower upgrade items |
| 10:31.09 | foxlit | The deprecated wrapper for GetEquipmentSetInfoByName doesn't preserve error semantics. |
| 10:31.41 | foxlit | -> GetEquipmentSetInfoByName("ThisSetDoesNotExist") presumably throws while it previously didn't. |
| 10:32.13 | VIad | foxlit: they went away with the "byname" and are only doing equipsets by id/index now arent they? |
| 10:35.36 | foxlit | equip set #42, viad. |
| 10:35.58 | foxlit | "of course they didn't" is the obvious answer. |
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| 10:40.52 | nevcairiel | could still have an api to get the name, but dont use the name as an identifier |
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| 10:48.54 | foxlit | basically /equipset still has to work, and pushing internal ids on users is ridiculous, so there's obviously a name -> id map somewhere. |
| 10:50.56 | foxlit | the difference is that this mapping step used to be internal to some api functions, and they would mostly fail silently if you asked for a set which didn't exist. The deprecated wrappers don't realize this, and so they happily pass the nil from the mapping step to an id-expecting query, which whines loudly. |
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| 11:04.03 | VIad | not to mention the worst thing about equip sets - you can't sort them alphabetically or any other way than creation order! |
| 11:04.37 | VIad | mine appear in the order of tank, dps, tank, tank ,_, I use opie so its not a huge impact, but I notice the order when I go to edit them |
| 11:05.04 | VIad | also write a wrapper for the wrapper, to iterate all sets and match by name and avoid errors ,_, |
| 11:05.38 | VIad | I wonder why sets can't use their index as "id" like why need another internal id? |
| 11:08.45 | Constie | You could prefix their names with "Tank: " and "DPS: " or whatever. |
| 11:08.54 | Constie | Oh, I read wrong. |
| 11:12.26 | VIad | I just hope they work out the bugs from the patch |
| 11:12.39 | VIad | some said they couldn't get exalted with factions anymore, people stuck at 20999 :D |
| 11:12.59 | VIad | guess something with legion system interfered with older factions and such |
| 11:15.00 | VIad | hmm, this is kind of sad. https://www.patreon.com/WoWTales |
| 11:15.39 | VIad | warcraft tales was supposed to be released as an addon that enhanced questing by adding voice on the quest giver dialogs and making them appear as popup heads like they do in legion |
| 11:17.22 | foxlit | "...due to the president set..." |
| 11:19.14 | VIad | so if my addon adds voices that reads out the quest text and alters questing experience, it's like an expansion and I am not blizz so I am not allowed to make expansions - wat? |
| 11:22.43 | foxlit | it's less an addon problem and more a bussiness model problem. |
| 11:24.30 | foxlit | I don't imagine anyone would object to you just showing up with a recording of yourself reading out the quest text and playing that. Soliciting money to do stuff to someone else's IP is kind of bleh, though. |
| 11:26.34 | VIad | donations have never been a issue with blizz |
| 11:26.40 | VIad | as long the addon is free |
| 11:27.08 | VIad | hence why I dont see the issue, I didnt see it being behind a paywall |
| 11:28.37 | VIad | I just saw a clip how it worked for elwynn quests and thought this looks nice and immersive, then saw its been shutdown :p |
| 11:28.48 | Shockah | Semlar, looks like they actually blocked chat bubbles in instances too |
| 11:28.50 | Shockah | rofl |
| 11:29.46 | Shockah | my addons keep erroring |
| 11:31.33 | VIad | what? wtf |
| 11:31.41 | VIad | I use chat bubbles to easier see who said what when chatting :/ |
| 11:31.51 | VIad | I missed the party bubbles, was so annoyed when they were removed |
| 11:31.58 | Shockah | 5315x Aurora\Other\ChatBubbles.lua:34: Attempt to access forbidden object from code tainted by an AddOn [C]: in function `GetName' |
| 11:31.59 | Shockah | same for Prat |
| 11:32.03 | VIad | ugh |
| 11:32.08 | VIad | now /s and /y is gone too, rip |
| 11:33.10 | VIad | purely from the POV to see who said what in my mythic dungeons, makes it nice to quickly identify who says what in chat, instead of having to focus my eyes in the corner to read when someone said something and who they are |
| 11:33.48 | VIad | bet it was a dirty fix for the removal of nameplates, and "uh but addons also use /s bubbles, let's quickly break those too!" |
| 11:34.06 | Shockah | yeah i think Semlar said we could use that lol |
| 11:34.09 | Shockah | hence the ping earlier |
| 11:34.20 | VIad | for gulldan it was easy to see in chat when someone used interrupt to easier keep to the plan |
| 11:34.31 | VIad | or other bosses with interrupt rotations on some people |
| 11:34.43 | VIad | now you need your own interrupt chat frame to appear on screen to better track this |
| 12:07.00 | VIad | the legion app says my main is "Offline" :/ |
| 12:08.40 | VIad | doesn't make sense since I have to be offline to login, so how can 1 character be offline and unable to login the legion app? :P |
| 12:08.55 | VIad | if I log my alt I can select my main from the list but it stucks at connecting |
| 12:11.19 | VIad | http://i.imgur.com/awkFv02.png |
| 12:11.28 | VIad | is my realm offline? lol |
| 12:11.38 | VIad | I see my friends on that realm playing :p |
| 12:12.25 | nevcairiel | did you u pdate the app? |
| 12:13.08 | VIad | ye I can login my auchindoun characters |
| 12:13.12 | VIad | but not my new main on darksorrow :P |
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| 12:19.55 | VIad | https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/game/status |
| 12:20.07 | VIad | my realm is up, but the phone says no, cleared cache, logged in again, same :P |
| 12:21.21 | mukunda | is there no more addon /say messages? :( |
| 12:21.44 | VIad | not in instances |
| 12:21.48 | VIad | the bubbles are hidden |
| 12:22.20 | VIad | skorp, spell, krosus, elisandre, bot, odyn, illgynoth are bugged in 7.2 :d |
| 12:22.53 | VIad | spell can summon adds at wrong times, and use abilities not on her list xD |
| 12:23.15 | VIad | harbaron spams nether rip no CD, helya spams blackwater barrage |
| 12:23.30 | VIad | odyn balls cover like half the room in size :D |
| 12:23.49 | VIad | comments are amazing https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/623sy2/many_raid_bosses_are_currently_bugged/ |
| 12:24.15 | mukunda | so even if you type manually, your chat bubble wont show up? |
| 12:24.17 | VIad | DHT dresaron knockback is insane if you are >10 yards like, insane :D |
| 12:24.24 | VIad | not in instances, mukunda |
| 12:24.31 | mukunda | im gonna miss that... |
| 12:24.34 | VIad | its to break DBM/bigwigs /s stuff |
| 12:24.36 | VIad | I know |
| 12:24.41 | VIad | I miss even party bubbles :/ |
| 12:24.44 | mukunda | all the memes |
| 12:25.34 | mukunda | some of our raiders dont use their mic too... not gonna be able to see them use their dispel macros or somethin |
| 12:26.28 | VIad | my issue with friendly nameplates is they are useless to just spot "where is mark?" |
| 12:26.39 | VIad | text too small, hp not needed takes space |
| 12:28.17 | Andols | Did they seriously remove the chart bubbles |
| 12:28.46 | VIad | yes |
| 12:30.00 | Andols | Isn't that going a bit too far |
| 12:31.11 | Funkeh` | eh? |
| 12:31.15 | VIad | it's blizz crusade to stop addons from providing strat benefits in boss encounters |
| 12:31.19 | Funkeh` | this is the first Ive heard of chat bubbles being disabled |
| 12:31.36 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:31.41 | VIad | so better disable it :) |
| 12:31.56 | VIad | player positions, fixed, nameplates, fixed, bubbles, fixed |
| 12:32.06 | VIad | stage 2, remove minimap |
| 12:32.17 | VIad | remove map in instances, emulate vanilla map in instances |
| 12:32.22 | VIad | remove ability to chat |
| 12:32.43 | VIad | disable rendering the world inside dungeons, player must rely on audio cues |
| 12:33.04 | VIad | saves on design and artwork costs so why not? |
| 12:33.09 | Funkeh` | ill look into it, Im not gonna believe they disabled chat until I see it |
| 12:33.14 | Andols | Is WorldFrame:Hide() possible? |
| 12:33.25 | VIad | sure if you call it before combat :) |
| 12:37.55 | Andols | ls-: How is that April fools going for you? (Random legendary toast) :D |
| 12:38.15 | Shockah | Andols, i even checked into the code like yesterday or 2 days ago |
| 12:38.23 | Shockah | if he added it in his last update |
| 12:38.28 | Shockah | but didn't find anything suspicious :S |
| 12:38.32 | ls- | nah, f it :D |
| 12:38.43 | Andols | =( |
| 12:40.03 | AcidWeb | Well old UnitPositionFrame API still works. |
| 12:40.46 | Andols | Should it break? |
| 12:40.55 | AcidWeb | They implemented new functions and stopped using old ones in 7.2 - but they are still here. |
| 12:41.03 | VIad | doesn't work in instances |
| 12:41.09 | VIad | it's supposed to work outside |
| 12:41.56 | Andols | Are you talking about the functions they added in 7.1? |
| 12:42.14 | foxlit | you're talking to viad. I'd tell him to quit while he's ahead, but he's never ahead. |
| 12:42.43 | VIad | they overhauled the map position system to use a new widget system so blizz has full control when you can and can not read position data |
| 12:42.46 | Andols | Asking both of them |
| 12:42.58 | VIad | and in instances they disable reading the positions, also from whatever position API you got :p |
| 12:43.44 | foxlit | Andols: "no" |
| 12:43.46 | AcidWeb | Andols: yes. |
| 12:44.05 | foxlit | it's supposed to work, because that's kind of the point. |
| 12:44.17 | Andols | I'm confused now |
| 12:44.48 | foxlit | unitpositionframe is a renderer widget that draws units on a map without exposing their positions. |
| 12:45.07 | ls- | Andols: I decided not to do it, because a) I'm quite busy irl these days; b) I regularly receive regular death threats and other shit from users, so I'm not really motivated to write anything entertaining for them :p |
| 12:45.35 | ls- | regularly regular, yeah, makes sense... |
| 12:46.06 | Andols | Foxlit: that I know, i got the feeling from AcidWeb that they changed it again |
| 12:46.40 | VIad | ls-: death threats, what? |
| 12:47.30 | foxlit | Andols: they added more methods. AcidWeb presumably thought that meant they removed the old ones. They didn't. No news at 11. |
| 12:48.15 | VIad | the old methods just work until you are in ai nstance, then the api returns nils :p |
| 12:48.20 | VIad | like the UnitPosition |
| 12:48.24 | AcidWeb | In principle, I assume the worst scenario :-) |
| 12:48.37 | AcidWeb | Considering that old ones are not used now in UI at all. |
| 12:48.45 | foxlit | the sun will not come up tomorrow. |
| 12:49.00 | ls- | VIad: yeah, some users are quite edgy |
| 12:49.17 | VIad | it's a replacement for the notification frames |
| 12:49.22 | VIad | alert system - why the drama? |
| 12:51.18 | ls- | people want new stuff, new features, etc... sometimes they start suggesting various things, but I often reject their ideas, people get offended and start sending me nasty emails :p |
| 12:53.24 | ls- | I once got an email from a dude who said that he couldn't believe that all that time he'd been using an addon written by a fucking chink. He saw me replying Chinese users in Chinese :D |
| 12:53.56 | Andols | Haha |
| 12:54.07 | ls- | I get this kind of shit few times a month, I think :p |
| 12:58.13 | VIad | what? |
| 12:58.20 | VIad | unbelievable |
| 12:58.33 | ls- | that's normal, I think :p |
| 12:59.05 | VIad | I would never bring up race, gender or nationality >_> programming |
| 12:59.31 | ls- | well, users... they do/say things, you know :p |
| 13:00.46 | VIad | I bet the guy with the chinese remark both speaks and writes worse english than you, and he is probably from uk/us |
| 13:01.23 | mukunda | next thing they'll take out combat log events :( |
| 13:01.46 | Funkeh` | say messages are working fine |
| 13:01.52 | Funkeh` | as predicted, someone is talking nonsense |
| 13:02.34 | VIad | Funkeh`: someone said in instances the bubbles arent appearing and prat spewed out errors |
| 13:03.13 | Funkeh` | and that equates to blizzard disabling chat bubbles how? |
| 13:03.32 | Funkeh` | my first thought would be "disable prat" |
| 13:03.36 | VIad | prat said the chat bubble code wasnt accessible because of restricted environment |
| 13:03.45 | VIad | I guess maybe blizz turned off styling it |
| 13:04.06 | ls- | as for that dude, he's from US, he sent quite lengthy patriotic email :p |
| 13:04.13 | VIad | lol |
| 13:04.16 | VIad | probably drunk |
| 13:04.28 | VIad | and emotional one night, had some ideas |
| 13:04.38 | Andols | Don't be so sure about that :p |
| 13:04.54 | VIad | I didnt know chink was the deragatory word for chinese |
| 13:05.05 | VIad | you taught me ls- :( |
| 13:05.11 | ls- | ahaha :D |
| 13:05.33 | VIad | I only know whites are crackers :D |
| 13:06.08 | VIad | I'm a proud cracker |
| 13:07.20 | Andols | In Sweden ppl say "Rice picker" when talking bad about Chinese (at least this past of Sweden) |
| 13:08.16 | VIad | that's not nice |
| 13:08.48 | Andols | I know :( |
| 13:08.51 | VIad | in norway we say "yellow" for deragatory for asian inheritance |
| 13:09.28 | VIad | a person with asian roots* |
| 13:09.37 | Andols | Same here |
| 13:09.45 | ls- | heh, don't feel about it, Asians too have quite many bad words for other Asians :D |
| 13:09.56 | VIad | can't say I hear it much though |
| 13:10.24 | ls- | ofc, you don't speak Chinese, Japanese, or anything like that, I suppose :p |
| 13:10.53 | ls- | let's just say Asian in general don't really like other Asians :p |
| 13:11.11 | VIad | it's more complex than that considering asia is huge |
| 13:11.38 | VIad | not like "american" where there is a underlying common thread to some degree across the group |
| 13:11.53 | ls- | obv I'm talking about Asians who were born in Asia :p |
| 13:12.11 | VIad | I have no reason not to like asian tbh |
| 13:12.20 | VIad | I guess must be some history reasons |
| 13:12.31 | VIad | someone did something, now its like culture to not like the other side for it |
| 13:13.47 | ls- | oh, btw... Asians don't think it's offensive if non-Asian person can't distinguish between Vietnamese and let's say Chinese... |
| 13:13.55 | ls- | Asians can't do it either :D |
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| 13:14.33 | VIad | I once worked with a vietnamese person, he wasn't very nice to me |
| 13:14.33 | Andols | :D |
| 13:15.19 | ls- | and yeah, to Asians all Whites are the same, all Blacks are the same, etc... |
| 13:15.37 | ls- | like the same face, no difference whatsoever :D |
| 13:16.15 | ls- | so it's okay to be/get confused :p |
| 13:17.39 | VIad | based on personal experience, I'm gonna be suspicious about the next vietnamese that I interract with :p |
| 13:17.54 | VIad | maybe a bit unfair given sample size |
| 13:18.33 | VIad | but I understand small communities disturbed by other cultures or nationalities that do things to upset the local life in negative ways, easy to get bad ideas of a whole group of people |
| 13:18.57 | VIad | my friend went through school where there was way too many from one specific nationality and a lot of gang mentality |
| 13:20.11 | VIad | all you can do is be nice to others and hope others like you do the same |
| 13:20.44 | VIad | not fun to have jerks get you labeled as bad just because you happen to share their culture, nationality, skin color, ... :( |
| 13:21.33 | VIad | a bit like that kid in your class that did stuff and got whole class caught responsible, so lame |
| 13:24.48 | VIad | oh well, I try to be optimistic when meeting new people, not often that I do meet new people anyway :p |
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| 13:32.56 | Andols | :) |
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| 16:12.35 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.17 | Shockah | not sure if forkbomb or regex |
| 16:25.43 | foxlit | oh, sorry, /(?<!<\\|\\/)(?<!<\\|!REG3XP)(?<!<\\|\\/NUM!)(?<!\\d\\/>)((?:(?<![0-9a-z_\\.%$@])|(?<=\\.\\.))(?<![\\d\\.]e[+\\-])([1-9]\\d*?|0)(?![0-9a-z]|\\.(?:[eE][+\\-]?)?\\d)|(?<![0-9a-z_\\.])(?<![\\d\\.]e[+\\-])\\d+?\\.\\d+?(?![0-9a-z]|\\.(?:[eE][+\\-]?)?\\d))(?!(?:<DOT>|(?>[^\\<]))+>)(?![^<]*>)(?!\\|>)(?!\\/>)/i |
| 16:29.11 | Constie | Same. |
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| 16:29.36 | foxlit | double string escaping that time; /(?<!<\|\/)(?<!<\|!REG3XP)(?<!<\|\/NUM!)(?<!\d\/>)((?:(?<![0-9a-z_\.%$@])|(?<=\.\.))(?<![\d\.]e[+\-])([1-9]\d*?|0)(?![0-9a-z]|\.(?:[eE][+\-]?)?\d)|(?<![0-9a-z_\.])(?<![\d\.]e[+\-])\d+?\.\d+?(?![0-9a-z]|\.(?:[eE][+\-]?)?\d))(?!(?:<DOT>|(?>[^\<]))+>)(?![^<]*>)(?!\|>)(?!\/>)/i |
| 16:30.55 | foxlit | clearly geshi is a little insane. |
| 16:31.17 | Andols | what is this magic |
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| 16:32.32 | Andols | or insanity |
| 16:34.34 | foxlit | it's just trying to match numbers, I think. |
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| 16:48.12 | TheDanW | Semlar: don't think so |
| 16:51.31 | Stanzillaz | p3lim: are you aware of the talentless errors or want copy pasta? |
| 16:51.38 | p3lim | pasta |
| 16:51.56 | Stanzillaz | p3lim: http://paste2.org/PsUgF63j |
| 16:52.08 | Stanzillaz | p3lim: http://paste2.org/X3ngnNNk |
| 16:52.22 | Stanzillaz | and the quickquest one is just the questignored removal |
| 16:53.31 | p3lim | yeah I know |
| 16:53.32 | Infus | TheDanW: so people are asking when we can expect the fix for the crash on getting cooldown data |
| 16:57.20 | Stanzillaz | probably needs a client patch and will be bundled with other fixes |
| 17:06.00 | TheDanW | i don't know |
| 17:06.12 | TheDanW | i don't schedule hotfixes |
| 17:07.34 | TheDanW | it's going to be as soon as possible, we don't want the client crashing |
| 17:09.47 | Ssateneth | we wouldnt need to use addons for /say in raid if blizz made the mechanics easier to fuckin see |
| 17:09.53 | Ssateneth | that was the whole point of /say |
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| 17:14.16 | Gnarfoz | so |
| 17:14.23 | TheDanW | chat bubbles aren't currently forbidden, you have something else causing that |
| 17:14.31 | Gnarfoz | of course, the Artifact UI doesn't error and show a black window anymore |
| 17:14.49 | Gnarfoz | but instead it does the same thing as the previously suggested workaround: it displays incomplete data when opened early -_- |
| 17:15.05 | Ssateneth | blahhhhhhh |
| 17:16.08 | TheDanW | Gnarfoz: there's a new event when relic data is updated, ARTIFACT_RELIC_INFO_RECEIVED |
| 17:16.37 | Gnarfoz | I know |
| 17:16.41 | Gnarfoz | doesn't the UI use it? :p |
| 17:17.06 | Gnarfoz | if I open the artifact UI right after logging in, I supposedly don't have any relics in my Artifact |
| 17:17.20 | Ssateneth | rekt |
| 17:17.47 | Gnarfoz | opening it a couple of times while stuff is loading in (after loading screen is gone, obviously) they appear one after another |
| 17:17.57 | Gnarfoz | at first with broken icons/textures, too |
| 17:18.04 | TheDanW | correct, the relics aren't loaded immediately |
| 17:18.20 | Gnarfoz | well, at least it's consistent with the workaround from a couple of months ago |
| 17:18.42 | TheDanW | it may require a trip to disk or the server to retrieve relic data, not much i can do there |
| 17:19.05 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 17:19.17 | Gnarfoz | just more 32-bit client appeasement, I bet! |
| 17:20.25 | Semlar | TheDanW: i figured out what the problem was, dual artifact weapons aren't returning item info when you call tooltip:GetItem() on their main hand |
| 17:20.42 | TheDanW | did that change in 7.2? |
| 17:20.46 | Semlar | yeah |
| 17:20.46 | Constie | I'm not the only one who can't ignore quests anymore, right? |
| 17:20.57 | TheDanW | quest ignore was removed |
| 17:21.22 | nevcairiel | can you also remove the old legendary upgrade quest then so it d oesnt clutter our map? :D |
| 17:21.33 | Constie | Yeah, that. |
| 17:21.48 | Semlar | the only reason i even need to get the item link from the tooltip is because for some reason GetInventoryItemLink doesn't work when you're inspecting someone in your group who's not in your immediate area |
| 17:21.51 | nevcairiel | its pointless once all are upgraded, yet still offered |
| 17:21.55 | nevcairiel | was the only quest i really ignored |
| 17:22.36 | TheDanW | Constie, nevcairiel: yeah, i'll bring it up with design |
| 17:22.48 | Constie | I also ignored some of the weekly ones and some zone quests I'm not intending to do. I guess they can just live in my log forever, though. |
| 17:23.49 | Gnarfoz | ~seen tekkub |
| 17:23.54 | purl | tekkub <~tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 615d 18h 47m 11s ago, saying: 'I hate submodules'. |
| 17:23.56 | Gnarfoz | where is the fuzzy bear when you need him |
| 17:24.07 | Gnarfoz | https://haste.smb.wtf/qunigazetotodorivikumimezuqulu.lua I wonder what that is |
| 17:24.32 | TheDanW | Semlar: not sure what changed, wasn't intentional, and no one has touched that specific function in years |
| 17:26.26 | Semlar | if i'm inspecting someone in my group who's in another zone and i want to get a list of what they have equipped, the only function that works is tooltip:SetInventoryItem(unit, slot) then getting its item link from the tooltip |
| 17:26.38 | Gnarfoz | 42000/42000 = 1, 1*100=100, why does it say -1.#IND |
| 17:27.56 | Semlar | but in 7.2 that doesn't work for one of the hands of a dual artifact weapon, like kingslayers |
| 17:28.47 | Semlar | and without being able to get the item link i can't determine when the item has finished being cached, so i can't check each of its relics to see if they're cached to know when the item level in the tooltip is correct |
| 17:29.59 | Gnarfoz | did GetGuildFactionInfo's returns change? |
| 17:30.27 | Gnarfoz | it's returning 42000, 42000, 42000 (min/max/current) for my guild rep |
| 17:31.53 | Gnarfoz | this https://github.com/TekNoLogic/picoGuild/blob/master/picoGuild.lua#L113 was doing some moving around before, and now that errors because it's division by zero ^^ |
| 17:32.10 | Gnarfoz | ~seen sb |
| 17:32.12 | purl | sb is currently on #wowace #wowuidev, last said: 'znf: read 5 more lines'. |
| 17:32.12 | Gnarfoz | ~seen smb |
| 17:32.12 | purl | i haven't seen 'smb', Gnarfoz |
| 17:32.13 | Gnarfoz | ~seen sbu |
| 17:32.13 | purl | sbu <~quassel@2a00:1158:2:1e00::40> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 407d 9h ago, saying: 'no, but they did it for ~every (since it was possible to get keys :p) expansion in the past, why not this time? :p'. |
| 17:32.28 | Gnarfoz | sb: https://haste.smb.wtf/awakikarotamunixuhozufahowaluw |
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| 17:37.19 | Semlar | TheDanW: also, did you guys raise the throttle for how often you can send a NotifyInspect request? |
| 17:37.45 | TheDanW | Semlar: i'd like to improve the inspection API so it actually works, no ETA though |
| 17:37.53 | TheDanW | no throttling changes afaik |
| 17:38.10 | Semlar | it might just be a side effect of my addon failing to inspect people properly |
| 17:39.24 | Semlar | i just want to be able to get the average item level of what someone has equipped so i can judge their worth as a person |
| 17:46.26 | [TOM_RUS] | <TheDanW> i'd like to improve the inspection API - ingame armory plz |
| 17:53.42 | TheDanW | i'm doubtful that we'd ever expose data for arbitary players |
| 17:54.16 | znf | why not? |
| 17:54.40 | znf | an api that returns data for "is this player shit or good" would be good, too |
| 18:03.22 | Ketho | ingame facebook seems more likely |
| 18:07.44 | znf | Craftbook |
| 18:07.50 | znf | where our own heroes have their own profile pages |
| 18:07.55 | znf | "Here's me having a mana cookie" |
| 18:08.08 | znf | "Delicious mana buns #awesome #muchmana #wow" |
| 18:08.43 | znf | how do you tell a user is retarded: https://mods.curse.com/members/Grilor |
| 18:10.34 | znf | retarded is a strong word |
| 18:10.36 | znf | just challenged |
| 18:21.22 | Semlar | is there a function that will get a list of every relic in the game |
| 18:21.37 | _Kee | yay! I am immune to arcanetic rings ^^ |
| 18:21.41 | Zeldo | "Hi, I noticed you seem to be mentally challenged so I decided to let it fly this time and send you a PM instead. Please stop doing <>" |
| 18:21.45 | Zeldo | <.< |
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| 18:26.16 | PhatsoTGT | hey... are circular references in tables bad? |
| 18:27.46 | PhatsoTGT | say i have a fontfamily with lots of font objects in an array and each of them point back to the family table? |
| 18:28.11 | PhatsoTGT | i mean thinking about it the example is useless but just for my interest? |
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| 18:29.39 | nevcairiel | depends how you use it, but there is no fundamental problem with that |
| 18:29.44 | Semlar | it takes up more space, whether it's bad would depend on what you're doing |
| 18:30.54 | Semlar | i would personally create a second table as an index rather than put the parent under every single entry in that example |
| 18:31.11 | PhatsoTGT | ye the example was kinda meh |
| 18:31.38 | PhatsoTGT | ill probably never really leave that OOP cage |
| 18:32.00 | Semlar | and that would only be necessary if you could access an entry somehow without also being able to know what parent it's under |
| 18:32.45 | PhatsoTGT | stop roasting me :D |
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| 18:33.57 | Semlar | the game is letting me know that the 500,000 gold i have on my bank alt exceeds the cap for a starter edition |
| 18:34.25 | Semlar | i guess it won't let me pick up any more |
| 18:34.59 | PhatsoTGT | well anyways how are y'all holding up? anything cool happen in the last 2 Month. Had a little bit of a burnout going |
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| 19:15.24 | Andols | znf:The profile you linked are you talking about a comment that is removed or what? |
| 19:20.06 | znf | Andols, nah, just him complaining about addon errors before actually updating on patch day |
| 19:20.44 | znf | kullervo, http://i.imgur.com/8txtsb8.png w00t |
| 19:21.11 | Andols | MVP!!! |
| 19:26.18 | Semlar | TheDanW: it looks like because GetInventoryItemLink doesn't work for players out of range, you can't shift-click any of their items to link them in the chat either |
| 19:27.31 | Semlar | that's not new, i just didn't think about the implications before |
| 19:30.09 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 19:30.47 | foxlit | clearly https://wow.gamepedia.com/File:Tinfoilhatinspect.jpg needs to be implemented to protect us from Semlar. |
| 19:32.46 | Semlar | you can't hide from my tooltip scanner |
| 19:33.16 | Semlar | i just need to cache every item in the game before you go to inspect someone |
| 19:33.27 | foxlit | 7.2.1: everything is now forbidden. |
| 19:34.19 | Semlar | i assume i couldn't just put every relic into the item cache and have them stay cached any more |
| 19:34.46 | foxlit | have you tried converting the whole wowdb to a single lua table and loading that? |
| 19:35.32 | Semlar | well the problem is i need the item level in the tooltip to actually be correct when you go to inspect someone and it isn't until it finishes caching the weapon and each of the relics that are in it |
| 19:37.11 | Stanzillaz | p3lim: is talentless not on your github? |
| 19:37.19 | p3lim | it is |
| 19:37.24 | Stanzillaz | oh wait, you have a special wow org |
| 19:37.25 | Stanzillaz | got it |
| 19:37.39 | Semlar | i could have it just constantly monitor the tooltip value and update the item level when it changes but that's not great |
| 19:38.01 | Semlar | there's no way to know when it's finished loading |
| 19:38.35 | kullervo | Andols: MVP is "on fire" >75% of game duration |
| 19:38.55 | Andols | Details :P |
| 19:39.59 | foxlit | why care about someone else's equipped item level, anyway? |
| 19:40.40 | TheDanW | Semlar: if you know the item id you can use GetItemInfo and its event to determine when its finished loading |
| 19:41.16 | Semlar | i can maybe get the item ID of the artifact weapon itself from its offhand, but the problem is i can't get the relics that are in it |
| 19:41.36 | znf | kullervo, I love doing so much damage! :D |
| 19:41.39 | Semlar | so without knowing when the relics have finished being cached i don't know when the item level in the tooltip is correct |
| 19:42.20 | Stanzillaz | p3lim: that error is only because there is a fallback missing btw |
| 19:42.43 | Gnarfoz | why are my debuff cooldown spirals green now |
| 19:42.46 | Gnarfoz | what texture is gone? |
| 19:42.52 | znf | Gnarfoz, cd bug |
| 19:42.55 | kullervo | znf: you should try playing a roadhog or soldier! |
| 19:42.59 | Gnarfoz | it's just that addon |
| 19:43.02 | Gnarfoz | so, I doubt that |
| 19:43.10 | [TOM_RUS] | Semlar, you can relic item id's from artifact link |
| 19:43.13 | Gnarfoz | i.e. not all cooldown spirals |
| 19:43.18 | kullervo | znf: or junkrat if the enemy has orisa, rein etc! |
| 19:43.34 | Semlar | yes, you can get it from the link, but you can't get the link when you're inspecting someone who's out of range |
| 19:43.46 | p3lim | Stanzillaz: what fallback? |
| 19:43.59 | znf | kullervo, nah, fuck this, I love playing orisa |
| 19:44.02 | Stanzillaz | p3lim: if self.Specs[C_EquipmentSet.GetEquipmentSetAssignedSpec(setID)] fails |
| 19:44.14 | Stanzillaz | and it fails when there is no set assigned to specs |
| 19:44.47 | znf | kullervo, tough Genji is a pretty good counter for her :-/ |
| 19:45.00 | kullervo | meh, dance around the shield |
| 19:45.13 | kullervo | mccree, soldier and widow are the hardest counters for orisa |
| 19:45.20 | znf | I pull you! |
| 19:46.02 | TheDanW | Semlar: tooltip:SetInventoryItem() works though? |
| 19:46.11 | Semlar | yes |
| 19:46.33 | TheDanW | they pull from the same source, thats odd |
| 19:46.34 | Semlar | but once you set the tooltip you can't call tooltip:GetItem() and have it return the link for dual artifact weapons for some reason now |
| 19:47.22 | Semlar | i think inspecting group members who are in other zones has to behave differently than inspecting someone who's actually visible |
| 19:48.01 | Semlar | i'm not sure why the tooltips all work when none of the other functions do, except GetInventoryItemTexture |
| 19:48.21 | Semlar | which is what i've been doing to check if they have an item equipped in that slot |
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| 19:49.42 | TheDanW | oh i see, it can't resolve the unit tag |
| 19:49.53 | TheDanW | because they're out of range |
| 19:49.57 | TheDanW | tooltip cheats |
| 19:51.06 | Semlar | to be honest, it's a little weird that the inspect functions even use a unit ID instead of just requesting information about whoever you just inspected since you can't inspect more than one person at a time |
| 19:52.01 | TheDanW | looks like there either was a system to have multiple inspect units or intention to add it later |
| 19:52.04 | Semlar | when INSPECT_READY fires, it gives you a guid |
| 19:52.18 | Semlar | but you can't do anything with that except try and figure out what unit ID is associated with that guid |
| 19:52.36 | Semlar | and then use that unit ID when you're going over their items |
| 19:54.31 | Semlar | since the functions like GetInventoryItemLink all take a unit ID and a slot |
| 19:58.34 | TheDanW | we actually had a bug on it, fixed for 7.2.5 |
| 19:59.23 | Semlar | :O |
| 20:00.25 | [TOM_RUS] | why does it take so long for bug fixes to go live? 7.2.5 probably months away from now |
| 20:01.04 | p3lim | Stanzillaz: no set assigned to a spec = that loop won't run |
| 20:01.37 | Semlar | TheDanW: http://i.imgur.com/GrRmWvR.jpg here's what i mean about tooltip:GetItem() not working |
| 20:02.05 | Stanzillaz | p3lim: I havent read the whole code, I just saw that "button" is never created |
| 20:02.13 | Semlar | it works with their secondary slot but not the main one for the artifact |
| 20:02.34 | p3lim | Stanzillaz: I'll take a look into it, just trying to kill elisande with bugs right now :/ |
| 20:02.41 | Stanzillaz | fun :D |
| 20:02.57 | nevcairiel | we gave up on elisande, the uncontrollable rings are just impossible |
| 20:03.22 | Semlar | it seems to only be the tooltip that combines both weapons into one that's messed up |
| 20:03.53 | Semlar | it definitely worked before 7.2 though |
| 20:04.54 | TheDanW | it's not an important enough bug to hotfix, so 7.2.5 is the next boundary where the fix gets picked up |
| 20:06.54 | Semlar | to be fair, i may be one of the only addon authors who's actually trying to use this information |
| 20:12.25 | Ssateneth | quest tracking with world quests seems bugged |
| 20:12.38 | Ssateneth | my minimap is always rtacking some other quest, even if i untracked it |
| 20:13.24 | Semlar | have you tried /run SetSuperTrackedQuestID(0) |
| 20:15.04 | Ssateneth | didnt know that was a required thing now |
| 20:15.18 | Ssateneth | where on patch notes says i need to run that now every time i do WQs? :P |
| 20:16.17 | Semlar | you could try /console autoQuestWatch 0 |
| 20:16.33 | Semlar | i don't know whether that will actually stop it from tracking new quests |
| 20:16.38 | Ssateneth | mm |
| 20:26.01 | Ssateneth | Is there an addon that autoatically switches to a new tracked reputation when you get reputation for that faction that also supports the new reputation level? |
| 20:26.21 | Ssateneth | im using an old addon tb reputation watcher that worked fine but doesnt support the new rep bar |
| 20:27.38 | Kesava | "8x FrameXML\MainMenuBar.lua:125: Usage: local cost = C_ArtifactUI.GetCostForPointAtRank(rank, tier)" |
| 20:27.47 | Kesava | just me or is that an actual blizzard bug |
| 20:27.54 | Kesava | because if so, /slap TheDanW |
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| 20:30.53 | foxlit | works for me, Kesava. |
| 20:31.21 | Kesava | bah |
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| 20:45.00 | foxlit | oh hey, Broll learned how to bear. |
| 20:46.57 | Andols | Guldan is broken |
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| 20:56.36 | foxlit | .GetEquipmentSetIDs() -> {2, 5, 0, 1} |
| 20:56.40 | Gnarfoz | so what about Prat is breaking chat bubbles? |
| 21:00.54 | Ssateneth | so /startattack doesnt aqcuire nearby target anymore. But hardcasting a melee ability will. wassup with that? is there a replacement macro or function or something? |
| 21:02.13 | Ssateneth | i'd regex search through framexml but i dont know regex :( |
| 21:02.22 | Ssateneth | searching for tab but i dont want table or tabard |
| 21:04.17 | Semlar | you could just macro /startattack into your /cast macro |
| 21:04.30 | foxlit | for i=1,GetNumEquipmentSets() do local n, ico = GetEquipmentSetInfo(i) --> for k,v in pairs(C_EquipmentSets.GetEquipmentSetIDs()) do local n, ico = C_EquipmentSets.GetEquipmentSetInfo(v) |
| 21:04.34 | foxlit | ... this is not an improvement. |
| 21:05.52 | Semlar | C_Foxlit.JustDoIt() |
| 21:09.01 | foxlit | GetEquipmentSetInfoByName deprecation wrapper is useless because it doesn't return values in the same order as the original function. |
| 21:09.23 | _Kee | When using "release" option whille changing servers, popup disappears, but I remain dead -_- |
| 21:09.32 | Semlar | well just wrap the wrapper in another function to rearrange the returns for you ^_^ |
| 21:10.10 | foxlit | Semlar: if I have to write code to fix it, I might as well use the new API. |
| 21:10.38 | Thunder_Child | Maybe you should just do that then. |
| 21:10.40 | Semlar | this is all just a clever trick to get you to rewrite your addon |
| 21:10.49 | Andols | Gnarfoz: Try and disable the Bubbles module :) |
| 21:10.59 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I did that, but that's a bit much |
| 21:11.43 | Gnarfoz | hm, only relevant in instances? |
| 21:12.16 | Andols | hmm, nothing happens when i change settings in that module |
| 21:15.08 | foxlit | /equipset SetYouDontHave predictably results in a Lua error. |
| 21:17.14 | Gnarfoz | and now it works even in instance |
| 21:17.14 | Gnarfoz | weird |
| 21:17.24 | Gnarfoz | or maybe I didn't reload, yet |
| 21:17.50 | Gnarfoz | nope, I did |
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| 21:47.03 | foxlit | how do I check that my character doesn't actually know the Incarnation spell? |
| 21:47.30 | foxlit | 7.2 kind of made that worse :( |
| 21:58.15 | znf | kullervo, I fell down from 2.580 rating to 2200 :D |
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| 21:59.53 | Ssateneth | [4:04:16pm] <Semlar> you could just macro /startattack into your /cast macro |
| 22:00.12 | Ssateneth | Both /startattack and /cast Obliterate fail to target an enemy |
| 22:00.23 | Ssateneth | thing is, it feels random and not at the same time |
| 22:00.43 | foxlit | fs, IsSpellKnown() works for everything but the moonkin. |
| 22:01.32 | kullervo | znf: from 3970 to 3620 |
| 22:01.55 | foxlit | IsSpellKnown((select(7, GetSpellInfo("Incarnation: Chosen of Elune")))) == false; /cast Incarnation: Chosen of Elune works |
| 22:02.17 | Ssateneth | As soon as I manually target something or I tab target, the macro works, at least for a little bit |
| 22:04.08 | Ssateneth | wat |
| 22:04.16 | Ssateneth | kullervo your pvp rating was 3970???????? |
| 22:04.23 | Ssateneth | wut the wut |
| 22:04.59 | znf | kullervo, is it intended that roadhog can pull you trough Orisa's shield? |
| 22:05.09 | znf | s/shield/barrier |
| 22:05.30 | znf | seems inconsistent compared to rhein/winston/symm |
| 22:05.46 | znf | Ssateneth, overwatch |
| 22:09.09 | znf | heh @ blizzard's update on the item level thing |
| 22:09.14 | Ssateneth | oh |
| 22:09.15 | znf | "you didn't say anything, so we tought it was fine" |
| 22:09.46 | znf | I don't know about the rest of testers, but I mainly tested the broken shores area, which I assumed it was supposed to be harder |
| 22:10.34 | nevcairiel | people also did the invasions and w hatnot |
| 22:10.47 | znf | I personally didn't |
| 22:10.58 | znf | but those were "new" mobs/events, weren't they? |
| 22:11.03 | nevcairiel | Also, I really didnt think it felt any different doing WQs this morning |
| 22:11.12 | nevcairiel | maybe slightly slower, but not huge |
| 22:11.21 | nevcairiel | all the QQ was entirely over the top |
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| 22:12.34 | Ssateneth | people dont like being nerfed for no reason |
| 22:13.17 | znf | especially when they said that they won't od that |
| 22:13.36 | Ssateneth | that too |
| 22:16.28 | znf | fucking hanzo mains |
| 22:16.29 | nevcairiel | they never said they wont ever do that, they just said they didnt do that right then |
| 22:16.42 | znf | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hanzo-main |
| 22:16.43 | znf | heh |
| 22:19.51 | foxlit | also fun: FindSpellBookSlotBySpellID(102560) -> 29 ; GetSpellBookItemInfo(29, "spell") -> "SPELL", 194223 ; GetSpellInfo(194223) -> "Celestial Alignment" |
| 22:20.45 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.12 | Thunder_Child | It's a feature. |
| 22:22.11 | foxlit | of course it is. |
| 22:26.22 | foxlit | and while you don't have Incarnation, FindSpellBookSlot finds a different slot which also contains... Celestial Alignment. |
| 22:30.05 | Stanzilla | did something change with HP events? |
| 22:31.31 | Gnarfoz | they're all Dell now |
| 22:36.08 | Stanzilla | hehhehehehehe |
| 22:43.20 | fewyn | Anyone know any good addons that track AP/Mana/etc... I used to have a weakaura that did it but it broke in 7.2 |
| 22:45.15 | znf | lol https://i.imgur.com/ZHmldGO.png |
| 22:48.19 | foxlit | There we go: IsSpellKnown(102560) :- IsSpellKnown(194223) and select(7, GetSpellInfo(GetSpellInfo(194223))) == 102560 or false . |
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| 22:48.56 | Stanzilla | fewyn: I rather want to know what broke |
| 22:55.30 | fewyn | someone updated it in the wa discord |
| 22:55.53 | fewyn | https://wago.io/Ny0yv6xoG this is the old WA i was using Stanzilla |
| 22:55.59 | fewyn | https://wago.io/NyyOYMr2G this is the new one |
| 22:57.15 | Stanzilla | https://www.diffchecker.com/DUTC6kfZ |
| 22:58.41 | fewyn | looks to be mostly the custom text stuff |
| 22:58.43 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 22:58.47 | Stanzilla | not my fault then :D |
| 22:58.50 | fewyn | yep |
| 22:58.56 | fewyn | that's always good to know! |
| 22:59.06 | fewyn | i rely on the ap circle a lot |
| 22:59.33 | fewyn | also the ancient mana |
| 22:59.47 | Stanzilla | I just have to sort through millions of reports on patch day |
| 22:59.56 | Stanzilla | my head is exploding soon |
| 23:00.27 | foxlit | you could just ignore them for a while, you know. |
| 23:01.41 | Stanzilla | I should |
| 23:02.36 | foxlit | let them precolate for a while; get a nice histogram of importance going. |
| 23:05.07 | znf | people report issues with custom auras as wa bug? |
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| 23:07.26 | fewyn | would not surprise me znf |
| 23:08.58 | fewyn | i would what addons of mine are still throwing errors |
| 23:09.02 | fewyn | i wonder* |
| 23:10.58 | fewyn | hrm it seems to be WA |
| 23:11.12 | znf | no, it's one of your auras :D |
| 23:11.14 | fewyn | yes |
| 23:11.20 | fewyn | that's what i meant! |
| 23:11.43 | fewyn | pretty sure it's because it can't check my artifact until i'm further logged in |
| 23:12.01 | znf | artifact api has a new parameter |
| 23:12.02 | znf | "tier" |
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| 23:23.28 | Gnarfoz | znf: wtb "M" abbreviation for broker artifact |
| 23:24.35 | znf | Gnarfoz, I know... But i |
| 23:24.41 | znf | but I'm too lazy to buy a sub |
| 23:24.52 | Gnarfoz | it's not like you need a sub to change that |
| 23:25.36 | nevcairiel | even the default UI gave up on s howing the exact numbers |
| 23:25.46 | nevcairiel | its just going to get too silly |
| 23:25.49 | znf | did they? |
| 23:26.09 | nevcairiel | the progress bar in the mainmenubar thing just shows millions |
| 23:26.17 | nevcairiel | 7.8 million of 22 million |
| 23:26.42 | nevcairiel | not sure if the artifact screen when you open it still shows the exact numbers |
| 23:26.58 | znf | I'll do it these days |
| 23:27.42 | znf | I swear |
| 23:30.41 | znf | Gnarfoz, how's it showing for you? |
| 23:30.53 | Gnarfoz | 3173.3k/29000.0k AP |
| 23:31.30 | nevcairiel | while you are at it, develop ahead for G abbreviations as well |
| 23:31.36 | nevcairiel | we're going to need it |
| 23:31.57 | Gnarfoz | yeh ^^ |
| 23:32.03 | znf | pft, that's one more update! |
| 23:32.04 | Gnarfoz | and even T ;p |
| 23:32.08 | foxlit | % is the universal abbreviation. |
| 23:32.09 | yalb | foxlit: sandbox:1: syntax error near 'the' |
| 23:32.39 | Gnarfoz | if you use %, please also change my wq addon to show % instead of raw values |
| 23:32.47 | Gnarfoz | and every tooltip |
| 23:32.50 | znf | pft, fuck that |
| 23:32.57 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i think not using T might help sell the idea of how much that really ends up costing and people finally realizing they cant farm that =p |
| 23:33.23 | foxlit | that ends up mattering on like two tokens out of the few hundred that go into your bar; you'll live :P |
| 23:33.26 | Gnarfoz | wouldn't just using the raw number be more effective for that :D |
| 23:33.44 | nevcairiel | people fail at reading such long numbers |
| 23:33.47 | Gnarfoz | exactly |
| 23:34.06 | nevcairiel | (probably already confused what G means) |
| 23:34.09 | Gnarfoz | confuse them into giving up |
| 23:34.26 | nevcairiel | could use B, but SI! |
| 23:34.48 | Gnarfoz | you'd need to localize, no thx |
| 23:34.55 | znf | I'm gonna use U |
| 23:34.59 | nevcairiel | Mrd. ftw? |
| 23:35.00 | znf | for "Unobtainable" |
| 23:35.13 | foxlit | 1e12 is also an option. |
| 23:35.22 | Gnarfoz | readable for even less people! |
| 23:35.29 | Gnarfoz | fewer? fewer |
| 23:36.28 | znf | hmm, I've already gone trough half my bottle of expensive Gin |
| 23:36.32 | znf | I drink waaaay too much |
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| 23:39.29 | Thunder_Child | Or at least too expensively. |
