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| 06:04.29 | Gethe | TheDanW: ColorPickerFrame:SetColorRGB() is broken. It does not update the color wheel or any of the other widgets wen called |
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| 06:53.36 | Corrodias | initial impression of the game Furi: stylistically appealing, concept is good, execution is mostly pretty solid aside from the dodge move being frustrating because it's incredibly delayed |
| 06:53.51 | Corrodias | hm. wrong channel, but i suppose you can be allowed to see that. :v |
| 06:57.09 | LexSfX | Gethe: What are you writing that wants to call ColorPickerFrame:SetColorRGB()? Would it work with using this fixed-up Color Picker Advanced? https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/color-picker-advanced?comment=12 |
| 07:04.06 | Mr_Rabies | nier automata, Corrodias? |
| 07:06.24 | Corrodias | no, Furi, different game |
| 07:10.43 | Mr_Rabies | oh |
| 07:10.56 | Mr_Rabies | yeah i agree, the dodge mechanic isn't quite as responsive as it should be |
| 07:10.59 | Mr_Rabies | it's kinda awkward |
| 07:11.10 | Mr_Rabies | once you get the timing down it's okay but it should kinda just work |
| 07:20.29 | Corrodias | yeah. it has two means of dodging, using the same button |
| 07:21.04 | Corrodias | if you tap it, about 250-500ms later, you'll dodge a very short distance, meaning the timing requirement is too precise |
| 07:22.13 | Corrodias | if you hold and release it, about 500ms later (holding it at least 500ms beforehand to "charge") you'll go a more respectable distance, but you really need to be ready for it ahead of time |
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| 09:52.25 | nevcairiel | Does anyone know the loot ilvl scale in m+ in 7.2? It doesn't seem like its documented anywhere on the interwebs that I could find |
| 09:53.05 | nevcairiel | I believe +10 is the new cap at 885 still, but how the spread is before that I couldn't figure out |
| 10:11.50 | znf | hmmm, again, got starcraft quest in HoTS |
| 10:12.12 | znf | did they change the quest system so it reflects your playstyle, perhaps? |
| 10:12.24 | nevcairiel | everyone gets the same quests, i thought |
| 10:12.43 | znf | I'm pretty sure everyone gets them separately |
| 10:20.12 | Stanzilla | ^this |
| 10:20.35 | karl_w_w | oh sweet, the well known electric car pioneer Tesler are offering me a job |
| 10:20.53 | karl_w_w | they must really want me, I don't even remember giving them my email address! |
| 10:27.59 | Gnarfoz | Tesler Model Y |
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| 10:37.00 | LexSfX | lmao |
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| 12:00.14 | karl_w_w | firefox english dictionary doesn't have the word movie in it |
| 12:01.20 | Phixion | nice |
| 12:29.27 | Kalroth | karl_w_w: movie isn't a word, you have to use motion picture |
| 12:44.38 | karl_w_w | tell it to the judge |
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| 13:21.40 | Mr_Rabies | karl_w_w: they're called "talkies" |
| 13:32.33 | foxlit | gr, both FrameXML.toc and Blizzard_StoreUI.toc load ..\SharedXML\ModelSceneTemplates.xml which defines a template. |
| 13:34.52 | foxlit | Clearly more tools should scream bloody murder if you attempt to redefine templates. |
| 14:03.17 | Gethe | LexSfX: I have my own modified colorpicker is why |
| 14:04.33 | LexSfX | i didn't ask why anything. feel free to do what you want. i was wondering if you were adding something to the default UI that would affect compatibility with certain existing addons. now i see that you aren't |
| 14:04.51 | LexSfX | ty for reply! |
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| 14:40.13 | VIad | nevcairiel: I'll do a +15 this week just to be safe that I get max loot for next |
| 14:40.32 | nevcairiel | I'm not worried about this week |
| 14:40.37 | nevcairiel | But like in general |
| 14:46.49 | VIad | oh I hope it's dumped up ilvl wise :7 |
| 14:47.09 | VIad | well, they will maybe bump it for next raid release |
| 14:47.15 | VIad | 7.2 is still NH so probably +10 = 900 |
| 14:47.22 | VIad | m+10 = 900 ilvl loot that is |
| 14:47.45 | nevcairiel | I would assume it stays where it is, but we'll see |
| 14:47.53 | nevcairiel | i couldnt find out anything without actually running some =p |
| 14:48.04 | VIad | they make m+10 the new m+15 |
| 14:48.08 | VIad | rescaling difficulties |
| 14:48.18 | VIad | would expect the loot to be 900 at m+10 |
| 14:48.27 | VIad | they said m+11 and up rewards more AP in the weekly box |
| 14:48.38 | VIad | so if you keep climbing its purely for more AP gain in the week box :) |
| 14:51.06 | nevcairiel | 15 only g ave you 885 |
| 14:51.13 | nevcairiel | so 10 giving you 900 would be kinda high |
| 14:51.15 | VIad | what? |
| 14:51.23 | VIad | oh I meant the weekly chest |
| 14:51.24 | VIad | :) |
| 14:51.40 | nevcairiel | difficulty wise, 10 is closer to 13 though |
| 14:51.41 | VIad | they said >10 in the weekly would contain more AP, but ilvl caps at m+10 at 900 ofc |
| 14:51.52 | VIad | yeah, some rescaling stuff, havent really tested :/ |
| 14:52.00 | VIad | m+4 is the new m+1 isnt it? |
| 14:52.06 | VIad | or m+3 is the new "normal mythic" diff |
| 14:52.27 | nevcairiel | but its fine, in a few month we'll get Tomb which increases the gear range, and we'll need to run until 15 or so anyway for gear |
| 14:52.40 | nevcairiel | which is what 18 or so was now |
| 14:53.01 | VIad | I never saw a point going higher than 15 tbh |
| 14:53.04 | nevcairiel | wonder if wowprogress will do anything to their ratings, or people will be confused forever |
| 14:53.06 | VIad | unless you just want more loot chances |
| 14:53.24 | nevcairiel | we liked doing a 16 or 17 just so our new key is a bit higher and we could run less :p |
| 14:53.30 | VIad | yeah :*p |
| 15:11.06 | nevcairiel | thats another advantage of being downscaled |
| 15:11.17 | nevcairiel | a 30% reduction isnt that m any levels on 10 then it was on 15 |
| 15:11.17 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:11.35 | nevcairiel | cant 4 chest a 11 back to 15, but can 3 chest a 7 to 10! |
| 15:13.34 | VIad | yes! |
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| 15:53.09 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.30 | nevcairiel | neat |
| 15:58.44 | nevcairiel | (also, fix your code, its using deprecated functions) |
| 15:59.28 | foxlit | meh, it's a 7.1 addon. |
| 16:01.10 | foxlit | the more panic-inducing thing is that helix thinks that unitpower is gone. |
| 16:01.28 | nevcairiel | that seems unfortunate |
| 16:11.06 | Constie | Wow, huge: https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/845306351307800576 |
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| 16:57.52 | foxlit | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/23708/Blizzard_GuildUI/Blizzard_GuildUI.lua#398 |
| 17:00.50 | Thunder_Child | Well, it does prevent a divide by zero issue. |
| 17:01.15 | nevcairiel | it actually errors, but they fixed it a build later =p |
| 17:01.42 | Thunder_Child | Oh, yes they are comparing again instead of assigning. |
| 17:04.43 | foxlit | I kind of expected "Certainly can't divide by zero when your code doesn't even compile!" |
| 17:05.03 | nevcairiel | sounds like something someone in here would say |
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| 19:14.35 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn for free |
| 19:24.59 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 19:45.30 | Stanzilla | foxlit: feature request for globe, can you exclude everything in the libs folder? or make that a toggle? |
| 19:58.41 | foxlit | You can kind of do that by spamming clicks at the file loading order section. |
| 20:02.11 | Stanzilla | meh |
| 20:02.25 | Stanzilla | also why does it list UnitPower and UnitPowerMax as deprecated? is that true? |
| 20:04.44 | foxlit | no, that's something being silly. |
| 20:06.27 | foxlit | should be better for future file uploads. |
| 20:08.35 | Stanzilla | hokay |
| 20:11.38 | foxlit | (something changed around the c implementation of those power functions in 7.2; someone probably sneezed on UnitPower while removing UnitMana.) |
| 20:11.57 | Fisker | Achoo |
| 20:13.40 | Stanzilla | foxlit: what are you using for globe btw? 100% your own code or luacheck + x? |
| 20:14.48 | foxlit | entirely own code. |
| 20:17.07 | Stanzilla | nice |
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| 20:17.47 | Stanzilla | was the TODO comment detection a recent addition or does it only detect "TODO:" (I recently changed every TODO to TODO:)? |
| 20:20.34 | Stanzilla | and yeah, a ignore libs toggle would be nice, toggling every file individually is super annoying with cross dependencies where stuff disables in the next row etc :D |
| 20:25.22 | foxlit | comment stuff is new; it requires the keyword at the start of a comment, but does not require a colon |
| 20:26.05 | foxlit | (also grabs FIXME) |
| 20:27.10 | foxlit | I actually wanted to add loading hierarchy to toggles in that list -- toggling off an .xml file that includes other stuff would then kill everything that's only loaded because of that xml file. |
| 20:27.52 | _Kee | Q: Did someone convert Blizzard_APIDocumentation into easy to read documentation and hosts it online, ex. as WWW? |
| 20:28.27 | _Kee | it would completelly replace wowprogramming.com/docs, being always upto date. |
| 20:28.39 | foxlit | ha. ha. ha. |
| 20:29.42 | foxlit | It's on the list of things to do, but this talk of replacing anything is somewhat hilarious. |
| 20:31.27 | foxlit | (the addon superficially covers a miniscule portion of the api) |
| 20:32.01 | Stanzilla | a bit far fetched: support for .luacheckrc or some config file that you can ship in the zip |
| 20:33.05 | foxlit | what would you want to configure? :) |
| 20:33.17 | Stanzilla | which files to ignore probably |
| 20:33.38 | Stanzilla | and what warnings I care about maybe but the UI is already good enough so you can just toggle so dunno |
| 20:33.46 | Stanzilla | probably overkill |
| 20:34.09 | Stanzilla | could possible replace your toc tags though.. |
| 20:43.24 | foxlit | Mm. Was thinking more along the lines of adding more in-toc/in-code directives for things. |
| 20:47.00 | Stanzilla | not sure what's better :o |
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| 22:09.56 | nevcairiel | VIad: they posted ilvl brackets now |
| 22:10.34 | VIad | oh! can you linkeh? |
| 22:10.57 | VIad | didnt see it on mmochamp |
| 22:11.02 | VIad | ah blue post |
| 22:11.12 | VIad | https://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17615281374 |
| 22:11.25 | VIad | omg 890 so ilvl nerf by 10 :( |
| 22:11.35 | VIad | ah read wrong lol |
| 22:11.41 | VIad | m+11 = 905 :o woot |
| 22:12.08 | nevcairiel | more like 10 is 905 |
| 22:12.12 | nevcairiel | so a buff by 5 |
| 22:12.16 | VIad | oh right |
| 22:12.19 | VIad | pretty nice |
| 22:12.33 | VIad | and +10 then is a +13 now right? |
| 22:13.31 | nevcairiel | somewhere along the lines |
| 22:13.39 | nevcairiel | only actual play will properly confirm the difficulty |
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| 22:17.00 | Simca | 10 right now is 880. |
| 22:17.09 | Simca | from end of week box |
| 22:17.12 | nevcairiel | we're talking about difficulty |
| 22:17.14 | Simca | it's a 25 ilvl buff |
| 22:17.27 | nevcairiel | buff is relative if difficulty changes |
| 22:17.40 | Simca | ofc |
| 22:18.17 | nevcairiel | the maximum available increases by 5, so thats the real buff |
| 22:18.34 | nevcairiel | for everythign else, we'll have to test the new difficulty with our own experience |
| 22:18.59 | nevcairiel | Probably easier then before, especially since 2-9 don't have the 3rd affix |
| 22:19.27 | nevcairiel | (easier to reach the loot cut-off, not easier compared to the same level) |
| 22:20.25 | Simca | will certainly be more enjoyable than before without awfulflowing |
| 22:20.50 | nevcairiel | shush you paladin |
| 22:23.54 | VIad | paladins gtfo |
| 22:24.06 | VIad | we need a new list of affixes now, a calendar |
| 22:24.22 | nevcairiel | not sure how people figured that out before |
| 22:24.29 | VIad | think it was a pattern |
| 22:24.35 | VIad | and was just logged by people |
| 22:24.37 | nevcairiel | just by waiting, or did they manage to get it out of the game somehow |
| 22:24.49 | VIad | think it was made after it started to loop again |
| 22:24.49 | Gnarfoz | waiting on PTR where rotation is every few hours not every week |
| 22:24.58 | VIad | yeah, that too probably |
| 22:25.00 | Gnarfoz | or the original list on beta, rather than PTR |
| 22:25.15 | Gnarfoz | I hope someone did that for 7.2 :C |
| 22:25.19 | nevcairiel | oh yeah there was an NPC that sold you keystones |
| 22:25.24 | nevcairiel | so you had a fresh one |
| 22:25.27 | nevcairiel | not sure ptr had that |
| 22:25.30 | Gnarfoz | I forgot to do it before template chars became unavailable |
| 22:25.45 | Gnarfoz | and/or transfers |
| 22:25.55 | nevcairiel | i have a tranferd char, so how do i do it now? :p |
| 22:26.04 | Gnarfoz | get key, look at key? probably |
| 22:26.17 | Gnarfoz | I guess you'd need an actual high level key |
| 22:26.20 | nevcairiel | not sure ptr even rotates that rapidly at this time |
| 22:26.26 | Gnarfoz | yeah, no idea about that, either |
| 22:26.37 | nevcairiel | lets check if the flaskataur is still here |
| 22:26.41 | nevcairiel | maybe he sells keystones |
| 22:28.25 | nevcairiel | still there, but no keystones |
| 22:28.31 | nevcairiel | well, we'll find out anyway |
| 22:28.36 | nevcairiel | not like we can influence it |
| 22:28.50 | VIad | can pm certain person in the channel and beg but, not very classy |
| 22:29.43 | Gnarfoz | well, I'm sure Blizz could just post the schedule themselves |
| 22:29.47 | Gnarfoz | that'd be classy |
| 22:29.53 | VIad | ye. but they didnt last time :/ |
| 22:29.57 | nevcairiel | yeah i dont think they are interested in doing that |
| 22:30.32 | nevcairiel | i'm happy they posted the m+ ilvl breakdown already |
| 22:30.52 | VIad | yeah |
| 22:31.21 | VIad | how many hordes know that undercity had a 2nd floor in the alpha that got removed? but you can still fly up there and walk around :p |
| 22:31.36 | VIad | I know it and i am alliance ,_, |
| 22:32.49 | Gnarfoz | that's not a matter of being alliance or horde at all |
| 22:33.07 | VIad | I'd guess being horde, chances are you'd see it by accidental exploration in UC with your flying mount |
| 22:33.23 | Gnarfoz | you would still have no idea it's a relic from alpha |
| 22:33.32 | VIad | I guess |
| 22:37.06 | nevcairiel | for the longest time there was also lower ironforge that was some relic from ages ago - until they just used it for something :d |
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