| 00:05.02 | tz | if only :( |
| 00:05.12 | tz | 11am Monday, motivation at an all-time low :( |
| 00:12.00 | foxlit | but hey, at least it's summer? |
| 00:13.06 | tz | Forecast for the rest of Monday: Summary Max 25 Late showers. |
| 00:13.20 | tz | in fact, forecast says rain until saturday |
| 00:13.38 | Fisker | squints at Guill |
| 00:14.04 | Fisker | Getting up for work in 4 hours isn't happy weekend |
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| 00:40.06 | mckenziemc | happy Fisker Monday |
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| 01:41.31 | fewyn | i wish blizzard would go and add exit shortcuts to old dungeons |
| 01:42.19 | mckenziemc | fewyn receives loot: [Escape Rope] |
| 01:43.11 | fewyn | i'd buy that shit |
| 01:43.44 | fewyn | there's very little old world enchanting mats on the AH |
| 01:43.52 | fewyn | i'm trying to level enchanting on my warlock alt |
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| 02:00.46 | mckenziemc | how likely would you be to hit the instance cap if you didn't have to walk back, though |
| 02:00.58 | fewyn | eh |
| 02:01.05 | fewyn | i'd rather go do something while i wait for it |
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| 06:03.23 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 06:09.49 | mckenziemc | mugs Fisker. |
| 06:33.53 | znf | sometimes the hots matchmaker really sucks |
| 06:37.06 | znf | our team got lucio, auriel, murky, tyrael and valeera |
| 06:37.08 | znf | so, basically 1 dps |
| 06:41.02 | nevcairiel | the matchmaker matches before people choose their hero you know |
| 06:41.23 | nevcairiel | you could've played something productive! |
| 06:45.44 | znf | it does? |
| 06:45.48 | znf | that makes no sense |
| 06:46.09 | znf | I don't believe you |
| 06:46.17 | nevcairiel | thats good, because i'm trolling you |
| 06:46.36 | nebula | i mean, in ud and ranked it's true |
| 06:47.15 | znf | anyway, we somehow managed to win that one |
| 06:47.48 | nevcairiel | you can play tanks in a more dps-focused way if you so choose anyway |
| 06:47.58 | znf | I was Lucio :D |
| 06:48.10 | znf | other than taking the lvl10 offensive, not much I could do |
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| 07:24.34 | znf | I really hate Valeera |
| 07:34.39 | ls- | don't hate me :D |
| 07:34.58 | ls- | why do you hate her? :p |
| 07:35.09 | znf | when you almost got her, poof, invis, "unrevealable" |
| 07:35.10 | znf | :-| |
| 07:35.17 | ls- | :D |
| 07:35.44 | nebula | aoe |
| 07:35.46 | nebula | dead |
| 07:35.58 | znf | if she's invis, aoe doesn't hit her |
| 07:36.06 | znf | or, I still get "unrevealable" |
| 07:36.07 | nebula | false |
| 07:36.20 | nebula | unrevealable means you're hitting her |
| 07:36.28 | nevcairiel | you cant reveal her, but you can hit her |
| 07:36.29 | znf | but I don't get damage numbers |
| 07:36.35 | nebula | doesn't matter |
| 07:36.39 | znf | how am I supposed to know she's taking damage? |
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| 07:37.07 | nevcairiel | you get unrevealable? =p |
| 07:37.22 | nevcairiel | best to learn about another char is to actually play it |
| 07:37.37 | nebula | like, don't be retarded, if you're drop blizzard on her circle watch for the shimmer of her running away |
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| 07:42.05 | znf | not my style of hero, not planning on buying her |
| 07:42.24 | nebula | i think she's a lot of fun, reminds me of pa from dota |
| 07:44.00 | nebula | (not that they're anything a like) |
| 07:44.25 | nevcairiel | i never liked pa |
| 07:44.34 | nevcairiel | but i'm also bad at playing hard carry |
| 08:07.02 | znf | does armor apply to magic attacks in hots? |
| 08:07.14 | nebula | spell armor does |
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| 08:10.02 | znf | there's 2 types of armor? |
| 08:10.05 | znf | TIL |
| 08:10.17 | nebula | yar :p look at nazeebo's superstition talent |
| 08:15.49 | nebula | znf: oh, but i guess if it doesn't say physical or spell, it's both |
| 08:17.44 | znf | interesting |
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| 08:33.54 | VIad | each time I connect to chat.freenode.net I have to accept the certificate, I wonder how I can make pidgin accept it :/ I know there is a certificate folder, maybe I could update the cert file in there? struggling to find where to download it from |
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| 10:36.02 | znf | VIad, pick a server and stick with it? :P |
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| 10:55.00 | VIad | it says chat.freenode.net certificate can't be validated and I have to manually tell it it's safe to connect to it |
| 10:55.58 | VIad | I remember copying their cert from the browser back in the day to fix it, putting in a cert folder for pidgin, but now that might have expired so back to square one, needing a fresh certificate from freenode |
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| 13:01.18 | karl_w_w | yeah VIad but naix with an aghs is pretty useless at everything else |
| 13:01.20 | karl_w_w | also https://i.imgur.com/ZMKTffI.gifv |
| 13:01.23 | karl_w_w | NSFW |
| 13:01.54 | VIad | nice karl_w_w, was hot |
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| 13:19.33 | Aftermathh | Hi, i have problem, when i change my UI scale, it won't be pixel perfect anymore? Anyone know how i can fix so it's pixel perfect at any scale? :) |
| 13:21.26 | Shockah|Work | it's called math |
| 13:21.32 | Shockah|Work | also should you even bother? |
| 13:22.00 | Aftermathh | Well, i think i have a little too big ui scale right now |
| 13:25.22 | foxlit | have you tried changing *all* of the numbers and textures? |
| 13:26.55 | foxlit | like maybe replace some 32x32 pixels images with 28.7x28.7 pixel images? |
| 13:29.43 | Aftermathh | No i haven't tried to mess with the numbers or textures, i mostly only use "Interface\\Buttons\\WHITE8x8" |
| 13:31.33 | foxlit | [tangent: someone should replace all of the UI graphics with DOS table characters. It's hypermodern!] |
| 13:34.02 | foxlit | but the point is that you can't use scale to adjust your pixel-perfect stuff, because that by definition will stop it from being pixel-perfect. |
| 13:49.14 | Aftermathh | Okay, i see! |
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| 14:40.30 | VIad | ^ what foxlit said |
| 14:41.23 | VIad | foxlit: he should be able to go from 1 to 2 scale and still have it pixel perfect, right? :p |
| 14:42.53 | VIad | wtb relative units in wow, so instead of writing I want my player unit frame to be 150 px I could write 5% of the total width or whatnot |
| 14:43.25 | VIad | would be cool if you could put a frame between some points and have that act as your baseline to then use % type units in the children |
| 14:43.43 | VIad | obv you can with some sort of wrapper but :p could code a grid type lib for frames |
| 14:43.57 | VIad | also, hi Aftermathh |
| 14:44.55 | Aftermathh | Hi vlad :) |
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| 17:23.23 | VIad | annoying alt-click dont work on bnet for invite :) |
| 17:23.26 | VIad | :(* |
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| 18:59.41 | znf | kullervo, when does the new season start in overwatch? tomorow? |
| 19:00.27 | kullervo | no idea |
| 19:00.35 | kullervo | hopefully during my winter holiday |
| 19:10.17 | kullervo | honestly I probably should know considering someone dropped me +m on qnet's #overwatch |
| 19:19.36 | MuffinPvEHero | https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/836292591121387520 |
| 19:19.39 | MuffinPvEHero | hrrrngghhhhh |
| 19:25.00 | Gnarfoz | nice |
| 19:27.17 | Ressy | hooray! |
| 19:32.25 | _Kee | cool, but nearest necrotic affix will be in 3 weeks. |
| 19:42.40 | _Kee | git@git.curseforge.com:wow/REPONAME/mainline.git is no longer valid? |
| 19:43.21 | Ressy | no? |
| 19:43.57 | Ressy | should be something like git clone https://repos.curseforge.com/wow/REPONAME REPONAME |
| 19:44.11 | Ressy | Was changed several months back. |
| 19:44.34 | _Kee | oh ok thanks |
| 19:44.54 | Ressy | github has a great page on how to change your repo urls if you need it. :) |
| 19:45.06 | Ressy | https://help.github.com/articles/changing-a-remote-s-url/ |
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| 20:25.41 | Simca | https://twitter.com/Marlamin/status/836310938651361280 bad news bears for blizzard's cdn today |
| 20:26.05 | Alram | my poor ssd simca |
| 20:26.27 | Gnarfoz | where is that, even |
| 20:26.49 | Gnarfoz | _Kee: necrotic is current week for US =D |
| 20:27.03 | Alram | C:\ProgramData\Battle.net\Agent\Agent.5414\Logs Gnarfoz |
| 20:27.07 | Alram | or wherever %programdata% is for you |
| 20:27.25 | Gnarfoz | Q:\ |
| 20:27.33 | Alram | if overwatch is downloading a background patch forever |
| 20:27.34 | Alram | then rip that log |
| 20:27.49 | Gnarfoz | c: as system volume is so outdated ;) |
| 20:28.02 | Gnarfoz | and I don't think it is doing it |
| 20:29.49 | Gnarfoz | running game should block it rn |
| 20:29.57 | Gnarfoz | shouldn't it? |
| 20:30.36 | Simca | yes, so should disabling background download |
| 20:30.44 | Alram | idk, just got rid of bnet launcher altogether |
| 20:30.51 | Alram | i like my ssd |
| 20:30.57 | Gnarfoz | that's not a real problem anyway |
| 20:31.50 | Gnarfoz | 339 GB and growing |
| 20:41.42 | Ressy | geez |
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| 20:47.13 | Simca | mine is growing way faster than yours in the pic marla |
| 20:47.25 | Alram | is it on an ssd simca |
| 20:47.29 | Simca | mine jumps 30KB every second |
| 20:47.34 | Simca | yes |
| 20:47.39 | Alram | shut. down. everything. |
| 20:47.56 | Ressy | geeez |
| 20:48.09 | Ressy | Kinda glad I uninstalled Overwatch a long while ago. |
| 20:48.20 | Fisker | nice Simca |
| 20:48.20 | Gnarfoz | mine was growing at Marla's rate -ish |
| 20:48.36 | Fisker | So where do we apply for new ssd's? |
| 20:48.55 | Fisker | I stopped playing overwatch since paid skins |
| 20:49.23 | Alram | i switched back to my casc mirror |
| 20:49.33 | Alram | it is less shit than blizzards apparently |
| 20:49.34 | Gnarfoz | your what |
| 20:49.46 | _Kee | Just killed M Il'gynoth with KJ trinket without need to kill eye 2nd time :P This trinket is soo bugged. |
| 20:49.53 | Simca | he actually made a mirror of their cdn |
| 20:50.02 | Gnarfoz | isn't that basically the Mythic strat anyway? |
| 20:50.12 | Alram | my mirror of things to install even after blizzard removes them Gnarfoz |
| 20:50.19 | Gnarfoz | hax |
| 20:50.27 | Fisker | How big is it Alram? |
| 20:50.32 | Gnarfoz | that's what she said |
| 20:50.35 | Fisker | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 20:50.39 | Alram | several megabytes at the very least |
| 20:50.45 | Fisker | Can I try it? |
| 20:50.56 | Alram | no |
| 20:50.56 | Fisker | Also how do you mirror their cdn for a patch you can't download? |
| 20:51.25 | Alram | overwatch just breaks completely, cant download a background patch if it doesnt know there is one! |
| 20:51.35 | Alram | mostly because i only need wow to work |
| 20:52.54 | Alram | it finished counting, it is 448G Fisker |
| 20:53.02 | Fisker | very nice |
| 20:53.14 | Fisker | I could host one on my second 1TB SSD |
| 20:53.57 | Alram | nice |
| 20:54.02 | Alram | crowd mirror this shit |
| 20:54.35 | Fisker | rubs his hands |
| 20:54.52 | Gnarfoz | let's just go back to it using bittorrent |
| 20:56.37 | Fisker | That's only for piracy and porn Gnarfoz |
| 20:56.42 | Fisker | and piracy porn |
| 20:56.46 | Gnarfoz | and porn piracy? |
| 20:56.52 | Fisker | Possibly |
| 20:56.52 | Gnarfoz | also, I literally can't math |
| 20:57.03 | Fisker | I'm not into the latest porn and piracy craze |
| 20:57.05 | Gnarfoz | I spent too long away from computers |
| 20:57.12 | Gnarfoz | because that file is only 340 MiB |
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| 21:40.34 | Simca | i have to admit, i still pirate several tv shows just because it is the easiest way to view them (i.e. they're not on any streaming services) |
| 21:41.17 | Fisker | I'm so disappointed Simca |
| 21:42.02 | Simca | the only alternative is setting up DVR and slowly waiting for reruns, which will come in a bad order |
| 21:42.06 | Simca | and that's just horrible |
| 21:42.20 | Fisker | Almost got my postal code in amount of TV show episodes stored |
| 21:45.21 | Alram | overwatch background download log issue fixed for now |
| 21:46.14 | Stanzilla | we did it wowuidev |
| 21:46.21 | Fisker | A shame |
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| 22:18.06 | Gnarfoz | Simca: also, they'll have ads, and be terrible broadcast quality etc. clearly, people who want to do it the honest way the are the ones shafted most |
| 22:19.33 | Simca | yeah, it's getting better though |
| 22:20.29 | Simca | years ago i had to pirate everything, but steam/psn/xbl/nintendo's store let me buy all games virtually and movies are pretty good if you have netflix + amazon |
| 22:21.20 | nevcairiel | I buy movies and games/software, just tv shows still suck |
| 22:21.27 | Simca | yep, same |
| 22:21.55 | Gnarfoz | can't even buy some shows, some networks/content producers just don't care to make it available |
| 22:22.09 | nevcairiel | I stream from Amazon if they offer decent timing and availability in original audio |
| 22:22.19 | nevcairiel | But very few series have that unfortunately |
| 22:22.23 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 22:23.39 | nevcairiel | TV networks must be real douchenozzles to work out licensing with |
| 22:24.14 | nevcairiel | All I want is shows in English at the time they air, on demand |
| 22:24.37 | nevcairiel | But being in Germany makes that impossible, not that it would be possible in the US either |
| 22:25.36 | Gnarfoz | it'll probably take until the entire current generation of staff has retired |
| 22:26.00 | Gnarfoz | and even then, there'll probably be people left who don't see any issues with the classic TV model |
| 22:26.54 | nevcairiel | Oh and as a bonus I don't want to subscribe to 10 services to be able to watch all I care about, one is fine! :) |
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| 22:35.01 | foxlit | it's a very simple kind of problem: E(money they'll get from netflix) <<< E(money they'll get from current licensing regime). |
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| 22:36.00 | Gnarfoz | they seem to use bad projections for the former |
| 22:36.14 | foxlit | how much do you pay for netflix? |
| 22:36.15 | Gnarfoz | or are insane, cause the latter is $0 |
| 22:39.34 | nevcairiel | they probably get a boatload of money from licensing it out to tv stations all over the world, and have strict licensing terms that forbid doing anything more modern with it |
| 22:42.11 | foxlit | fun fact: danish mandatory tv license is 27 EUR/month. |
| 22:42.46 | nevcairiel | there is more money in commercials then monthly subscription costs either way |
| 22:43.01 | Gnarfoz | also, geographical restrictions |
| 22:43.06 | foxlit | (covers public service tv, which airs no commercials.) |
| 22:43.11 | Gnarfoz | RTL Germany != RTL Netherlands etc |
| 22:43.32 | nevcairiel | our "public" TV even airs commercials, eventhough we pay it |
| 22:43.41 | nevcairiel | with one exception, not during primetime |
| 22:43.42 | Gnarfoz | "only" during the day, though |
| 22:43.47 | foxlit | (uk tv license is ~15 EUR/month) |
| 22:43.49 | Gnarfoz | (still laughable) |
| 22:44.06 | Gnarfoz | ours is 17.50â¬, I think |
| 22:44.12 | Gnarfoz | /month |
| 22:44.23 | Fisker | Hey foxlit commuting daily on airplanes isn't cheap |
| 22:44.41 | Gnarfoz | (and of course, they want more!) |
| 22:45.41 | Gnarfoz | 8.3 G� wow |
| 22:45.45 | nevcairiel | but then our public TV probably doesnt air any US tv series |
| 22:46.02 | nevcairiel | the best you can hope for is a hollywood movie now and again |
| 22:46.08 | Gnarfoz | makes you wonder what they spend their Gigaeuros on |
| 22:47.32 | foxlit | it's a weird duality of tax license revenue and foreign licensing revenue. |
| 22:47.59 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i bet loads of overhead on personal cost |
| 22:48.05 | Gnarfoz | I doubt anyone watches our national TV outside of Germany |
| 22:48.13 | foxlit | switzerland and austria. |
| 22:48.16 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yeah, that's what I assume, too |
| 22:48.25 | nevcairiel | did you see that german series that amazon launched world-wide |
| 22:48.28 | nevcairiel | i wonder if its any good |
| 22:48.29 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: they have their own... but yeah, they'd probably be the most likely candidates |
| 22:48.42 | foxlit | benelux as well, probably. |
| 22:48.44 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: which one? with Schweighöfer? |
| 22:48.55 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 22:49.10 | Gnarfoz | hm, I think I saw ads for that somewhere, I should check it out |
| 22:49.11 | nevcairiel | or well, will launch |
| 22:49.15 | nevcairiel | apparently in march |
| 22:49.39 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: all of those have minorities who understand German, but I'm not sure they're relevant numbers |
| 22:50.01 | nevcairiel | austria at least watches german private tv stations to some degree, public? i dont know |
| 22:50.13 | Gnarfoz | it was usually the other way around |
| 22:50.15 | foxlit | I assume your public tv produces some original drama series. |
| 22:50.25 | Gnarfoz | basically just Tatort? :D idk |
| 22:50.29 | nevcairiel | daily soaps i guess |
| 22:50.35 | Gnarfoz | at least that's the only one worth a damn |
| 22:50.46 | Gnarfoz | the rest is basically just "daytime TV" level junk |
| 22:50.58 | nevcairiel | i have no idea what they air really, i dont watch tv |
| 22:51.23 | Gnarfoz | I don't either, but I'm sure I've heard of it if it existed, from co-workers and such ^^ |
| 22:51.49 | nevcairiel | honestly i dont really watch tatort, but i suppose enough people like it |
| 22:51.50 | Gnarfoz | but it's all just "Germany's next top model" or "Bauer sucht Frau" or "Der Bachelor" or... |
| 22:51.59 | nevcairiel | all those s ound more like rtl2 |
| 22:52.00 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:52.00 | Gnarfoz | (none of which are on the public stations) |
| 22:52.56 | nevcairiel | well ok, one pro7 and two rtl |
| 22:52.58 | nevcairiel | almost! |
| 22:53.35 | Gnarfoz | it used to be common to watch movies on ORF (austrian public tv), because Austria doesn't have our youth protection laws |
| 22:53.59 | Gnarfoz | but that was only for people who actually received that ;^) |
| 22:54.00 | nevcairiel | soccer is often on the public stations |
| 22:54.15 | Gnarfoz | true |
| 22:54.20 | Gnarfoz | actually, no |
| 22:54.25 | Gnarfoz | they just show football |
| 22:54.30 | Gnarfoz | wtfm8 :P |
| 22:55.34 | nevcairiel | a few drama series seem to run on it, but nothing terribly exciting |
| 22:55.46 | nevcairiel | documentaries and live shows of various sorts |
| 22:57.07 | Gnarfoz | https://www.welt.de/kultur/medien/article116573260/Bei-ARD-und-ZDF-sitzen-Sie-in-der-letzten-Reihe.html heh |
| 23:01.05 | nevcairiel | seems accurate |
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| 23:52.58 | foxlit | 'for s in a,b,c,d,e do end' is surprisingly not a syntax error. |
| 23:56.05 | foxlit | meanwhile 'for i=a() do end' is. |