| 00:38.18 | Kinesia | Good idea Gnarfoz |
| 00:39.02 | Kinesia | My bank (rather than my bags) are full of old gear, but with the wardrobe the only thing worth keeping is bizarre trinkets |
| 00:40.29 | Gnarfoz | odds and ends like that make up half, moderately exaggerated, the other half is current gear that is "too close to the gear I'm wearing to throw away, maybe the next new item will be better if combined with some of that gear" |
| 00:41.51 | foxlit | 400 elementium to 14 pyrite :( |
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| 01:04.36 | Simca_ | yeah, i have ~100 pieces of gear in my bank |
| 01:04.59 | Simca_ | and it all paid off in 7.1.5 - i think i swapped out 8 pieces of gear, including all 3 ret relics lol |
| 01:05.45 | Simca_ | just got a new legendary today too, and an old 870 neck from one of my first mythics became my best neck (was wearing pyrdaz) |
| 01:06.07 | Simca_ | they're really rewarding hoarding gear this expac |
| 01:09.02 | Gnarfoz | a "best in bag" solver also makes it the obvious thing to do... of course I'm going to keep around various items for the same slot, with different stat pairings, as long as they're within a reasonably close ilvl bracket |
| 01:09.16 | Gnarfoz | it's like reforging, without the forging, but with less free bag space |
| 01:12.25 | foxlit | it's not like this player behaviour can be fixed. |
| 01:13.40 | Gnarfoz | that's not something that was asked for |
| 01:14.42 | foxlit | why not? It's horrible gameplay. |
| 01:15.28 | Gnarfoz | is "meta" considered gameplay? |
| 01:15.36 | foxlit | Ideally, you wouldn't need to lug around a sizable wardrobe of alternative drops and ask a computer to recalculate which parts of it you want to equip every time something new drops. |
| 01:16.08 | Gnarfoz | I don't need to, I do it because I can |
| 01:17.05 | foxlit | "I enjoy it" |
| 01:17.22 | foxlit | said nobody ever. |
| 01:22.18 | Gnarfoz | liar |
| 01:22.21 | Gnarfoz | :> |
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| 01:42.56 | Stanzilla | my ocd is killing me, my two displays will always be recognized out of order on Windows because it does it alphabetically :< |
| 01:43.05 | Stanzilla | display 1 will for ever be display 2 |
| 01:43.06 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 01:44.06 | Thunder_Child_ | You could swap the monitors. |
| 01:45.55 | Stanzilla | nah, they are not the same size |
| 01:54.12 | Gnarfoz | I've given up trying to make sense of when which display gets what number |
| 01:54.29 | Gnarfoz | (they're the same model, except for the TV) |
| 01:56.58 | foxlit | Could be worse. My windows display refuses to sleep |
| 01:57.48 | foxlit | It fades to black as if attempting to sleep, then flashes right back to full brightness a second later and repeats the process. |
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| 02:00.33 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: ID in the inf |
| 02:00.35 | Stanzilla | I checked :< |
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| 02:01.11 | Stanzilla | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\DISPLAY |
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| 03:01.44 | mckenziemc1 | checks Stanzilla's ID. |
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| 03:03.27 | kullervo | foxlit: friend had an issue like that, turns out the cable wasn't standard spec |
| 03:03.52 | mckenziemc | With all the talk of cubic feet per second being released from local reservoirs, KRCR News Channel 7 decided to break down what a cubic foot per second really means. There is 7.48 gallons in one cubic foot. |
| 03:03.56 | mckenziemc | just lost all credibility |
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| 03:07.00 | mckenziemc | then they go on to talk about everything in million+ gallon amounts, as if that automatically makes everything comprehensible |
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| 05:54.03 | Mr_Rabies | is it possible to hide the ingame mail warning thing? |
| 05:54.10 | Mr_Rabies | or bypass it, rather |
| 05:54.23 | Mr_Rabies | they still pop it up for alts on other realms, unfortunately :( |
| 06:04.49 | Simca_ | dude i have a guildmate on my friends list and realID'd and it still pops up |
| 06:05.16 | Simca_ | 3x levels of friendship quantifiable by the game, still not enough to stop warning. |
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| 06:22.32 | bluspacecow | lol captcha to log onto the webchat |
| 06:22.51 | bluspacecow | So |
| 06:22.53 | bluspacecow | TIL |
| 06:23.02 | bluspacecow | MPQ / CASC is == zip/rar |
| 06:23.06 | bluspacecow | and is not a file format |
| 06:23.07 | bluspacecow | https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749678358?page=304#post-6079 |
| 06:23.11 | bluspacecow | LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL |
| 06:23.33 | Semlar | gently pats bluspacecow |
| 06:23.44 | bluspacecow | #thestupiditburns |
| 06:27.01 | Semlar | i mean, the files themselves have major differences between versions too |
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| 06:27.29 | Semlar | i'm not reading enough of this to figure out what they're talking about though |
| 06:29.03 | bluspacecow | I think heres reading that wikipedia article wrong. Yes they are archives and yes they are compressed but that's about as far as the analogy gets him |
| 06:29.30 | bluspacecow | they also serve as file system - MPQs would open when the game needed resources from a different MPQ file that would be loaded as well |
| 06:29.54 | bluspacecow | I'm sure Simca or someone here can correct me on this. |
| 06:30.30 | Semlar | mpq and casc are both archive formats but don't work anywhere remotely the same way |
| 06:30.46 | bluspacecow | they also don't work with anything else. |
| 06:30.57 | bluspacecow | um |
| 06:30.59 | bluspacecow | i mean |
| 06:31.24 | bluspacecow | zip , rar , tar , bin ... all these formats have public design docs on how to compress/uncompress |
| 06:31.56 | bluspacecow | MPQs and CASC is propertiary so its pretty much black box style reenigeering to find out what the format should be |
| 06:32.25 | Semlar | that isn't to say we don't know how they work |
| 06:33.11 | bluspacecow | yes yes thats what I'm saying. the compression formats I've listed have had the companys give out how they work |
| 06:34.27 | bluspacecow | they are both an archive formats and as a file structure - I saw something somewhere saying they are loaded as a file system |
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| 06:41.52 | Yoshimo | Ladislav Zezula has made quite an effort to extract these archives with Cascexplorer and MPQEdit |
| 06:42.02 | bluspacecow | yep yep |
| 06:42.22 | bluspacecow | but Blizzard has released any public documentation on how it works |
| 06:42.28 | bluspacecow | *hasn't |
| 06:43.02 | Yoshimo | How does WoW map relics to the exact trait they improve? Wowhead shows just "+1 minor trait" |
| 06:43.18 | Yoshimo | bonus ids maybe? |
| 06:45.06 | Yoshimo | why should they release info? You have a lua api for addons, that is more than most games would offer |
| 06:45.22 | bluspacecow | im not saying they have |
| 06:45.39 | bluspacecow | but if your comparing ways in which MPQ/CASC and zip/rar are alike it does matter |
| 06:45.42 | bluspacecow | (at least to me) |
| 06:45.49 | bluspacecow | or that they should |
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| 07:21.27 | netameta_ | Where can i find class color list ? |
| 07:22.39 | VIad | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/Util.lua#1 |
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| 08:37.57 | VIad | netameta_: ^ |
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| 09:19.15 | netameta_ | VIad, Thanks very much |
| 09:23.14 | VIad | Semlar: I wanna make a lib for an addon I wanna make. so basically it will track combat status in the group. most importantly for 5 mans, like m+ stuff so I can easily detect when someone gets in combat, or is in combat, helps me with my shadowmeld or when doing skips and someone attacks my CC so I can see their combat :p |
| 09:23.40 | VIad | I really hope the unit events properly fire when someone gets in or leaves combat, I really do :( |
| 09:24.13 | VIad | I am kind of bad with these things as it needs to have good performance in any size group, but I think its doable. |
| 09:24.28 | VIad | also wanna do one for detecting when someone swaps spec :D |
| 09:24.50 | VIad | imo should be a grid plugin as well, so you see oh that guy is swapping spec, helps wait with pulls :d |
| 09:31.02 | Shockah|Work | also remember feign death breaks shadowmeld |
| 09:31.32 | VIad | really? :o didnt know |
| 09:31.48 | Shockah|Work | yeah, our healer hates me for feigning death |
| 09:31.56 | Shockah|Work | as she can't shadowmeld then |
| 09:32.03 | Shockah|Work | like, it doesn't drop combat and she gets killed |
| 09:32.14 | VIad | I got ress items on me so I use them if I manage to drop combat :d |
| 09:32.35 | VIad | in raids its hard to die quick enough sometimes, our priest has the legendary and is in spirit form :d |
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| 09:49.05 | VIad | some of these celebrities, like 4 marriages within 20 years :d |
| 09:49.17 | VIad | seems hectic |
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| 09:50.48 | ls- | who cares bout celebs? :D |
| 10:03.01 | VIad | when the ad-block fails and you read something like celeb facts ,_, |
| 10:12.31 | bluspacecow | lol triggered |
| 10:12.43 | Phixion | :) |
| 10:17.16 | netameta_ | Are there any other colored button other then UIPanelButtonTemplate |
| 10:25.12 | VIad | you can always create your own template based on their template, or just your own template :p there are various button templates like used in the blizz interface code |
| 10:25.18 | VIad | most are red I believe :p if not all |
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| 10:32.50 | ls- | iirc only red and blue buttons exist :p |
| 10:32.59 | VIad | blue for the store thingy maybe |
| 10:33.07 | VIad | think wotlk has blue themed buttons yes |
| 10:35.40 | Shockah|Work | because death knights |
| 10:35.51 | VIad | ye m8 |
| 10:47.38 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 10:47.56 | bluspacecow | netflix doesnt have the peter cushing dr who movie |
| 10:48.03 | bluspacecow | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060278/ |
| 10:48.10 | bluspacecow | http://unogs.com/?q=dalek-!1900,2016-!0,5-!0,10-!0,10-!Any-!Any-!Any-!Any-!I%20Don&cl=276,21,23,26,29,284,33,36,333,40,42,75,310,44,45,39,327,331,334,265,337,55,336,269,267,358,371,65,360,67,69,68,387,391,390,392,268,400,404,401,410,447,348,270,73,34,434,425,77,432,436,272,46,78&st=adv&ob=Relevance&p=1&ao=and |
| 10:48.15 | bluspacecow | long URL is long! |
| 10:48.35 | VIad | netflix doesnt have a lot. they load up on things they think people wanna see, or some cheap shit they bought cheapily. |
| 10:48.57 | VIad | thats the problem with such services, if I wanna watch some old movie or some niche movie I liked but that wasnt a big hit, its NOT on netflix :p |
| 10:49.01 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 10:49.12 | VIad | why torrents are still better than paid services |
| 10:49.23 | VIad | paid services need to be better at having more selection too, esp older stuff |
| 10:49.47 | bluspacecow | one of the local channels has it. https://www.tvnz.co.nz/ondemand/daleks-invasion-earth-2150-ad |
| 10:49.49 | VIad | tbh distributors should have online stores like netflix for all their content |
| 10:52.03 | VIad | oh btw, I wish DBM /combatlog the entire run |
| 10:52.09 | VIad | so its valid when uploaded to warcraftlogs :P |
| 10:52.14 | VIad | it only logs bossfights |
| 10:52.29 | VIad | wtb sub-option in m+ to also log everything, not just bossfights |
| 10:53.37 | nevcairiel | just use a proper addon to enable logging |
| 10:53.57 | VIad | DBM is great for it |
| 10:54.04 | VIad | like raiding, perfect. |
| 10:54.13 | VIad | but why it no also log when m+ timer starts? :( |
| 10:54.46 | nevcairiel | even in raids it doesnt make that much sense to not just enable it for the entire instance |
| 10:55.01 | nevcairiel | much easier, much less complexity |
| 10:55.10 | nevcairiel | less chance for failure to track something |
| 10:55.24 | VIad | I guess |
| 11:03.29 | VIad | guildie got sephuz on his hunter and is sad now |
| 11:04.53 | ls- | I like sephuz on my VDH :p |
| 11:05.10 | VIad | for m+ I use prydaz+wrists |
| 11:05.16 | VIad | there is no other way to play VDH in groups |
| 11:06.06 | ls- | I have neither T_T I have cinidaria belt, sephuz and something else... |
| 11:06.15 | ls- | but that something else garbage... |
| 11:06.23 | ls- | is* |
| 11:09.10 | VIad | that belt ugh so bad :D |
| 11:09.15 | VIad | using it as stat stic for my dps |
| 11:09.18 | VIad | havoc |
| 11:10.43 | VIad | wish 7.2 lets me trade in old legendaries I got that are literally useless |
| 11:10.47 | VIad | for something better :p |
| 11:10.54 | VIad | hope* |
| 11:13.14 | ls- | for gold :D |
| 11:13.25 | VIad | topkek |
| 11:14.45 | Yoshimo | Is there a dbc that contains the details about relics and which traits they improve? |
| 11:14.56 | VIad | most likely, I'd guess there is : |
| 11:15.07 | VIad | sounds very dbc-y to me |
| 11:16.14 | Yoshimo | relic inspector hardcoded that list, as the ingame info about relicts is limited |
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| 11:24.33 | VIad | there are some artifact*.db2 files |
| 11:25.10 | Yoshimo | mhm looks like my listfile is outdated |
| 11:25.38 | VIad | I could only open live on my casc explorer |
| 11:25.42 | VIad | but yeah :d |
| 11:38.48 | Yoshimo | yea managed to extract them, now it is the question if its stored and if yes, how |
| 11:40.24 | VIad | maybe the relics use bonus system or something |
| 11:42.48 | Yoshimo | i assume that the bonus id only covers the "+x itemlevels" part |
| 11:45.46 | Yoshimo | no matter which version of a relic, it still increases the same traits per spec |
| 11:47.24 | VIad | I found the intern at blizz |
| 11:47.39 | VIad | knight01:SetSheatheState(SheatheState.Sheathed, true) |
| 11:47.43 | VIad | goes from 01 to 21 :P |
| 11:47.48 | VIad | no for-loop |
| 11:47.57 | VIad | knight01:SetSelectable(true) |
| 11:48.02 | VIad | knight01:SetInteractible(true) |
| 11:48.07 | VIad | knight01:SetOverrideReaction(ReactionType.Friendly) |
| 11:48.29 | VIad | 84 lines when it could have been like, array and a loop with 4 :D |
| 11:48.58 | VIad | looking at SceneScript |
| 11:49.04 | VIad | fun to see how they code the scenes |
| 11:49.32 | VIad | considering the use of bunnies and invisible stalkers |
| 11:49.41 | VIad | they might as well have a global factory for those two :P |
| 11:49.56 | VIad | they don't sadly |
| 11:52.55 | VIad | the lack of a lot of locals disturbs me ,_, |
| 11:53.53 | VIad | wtb wow machnima client :D |
| 11:53.57 | VIad | based on this script system |
| 11:54.20 | VIad | taking content creation to a whole new level |
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| 12:25.56 | karl_w_w | 4 days since sun burn and it's taking every ounce of self-control to not scratch |
| 12:26.41 | ls- | omg... |
| 12:27.03 | ls- | sunburns suck T_T |
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| 12:28.27 | ls- | when I get sunburnt I often swim in the sea (salt water), or rinse them w/ saline solution few times a day, it helps a lot! |
| 12:29.08 | ls- | trust me I live in tropical country T_T |
| 12:29.24 | Phixion | jelly |
| 12:33.41 | VIad | I usually solve the issue by staying away from the sun in my mancave |
| 12:34.24 | karl_w_w | me too |
| 12:34.25 | ls- | Phixion: don't be jelly, be a marshmallow, ahem... living in a tropical country may suck sometimes, tropical diseases, crappy ISPs, you know :p |
| 12:34.57 | VIad | also only during like 2 months, is there any real chance of sunburn in norway, so the chances are low |
| 12:35.03 | karl_w_w | this is by far the worst sunburn I've had, was out for 9 hours |
| 12:35.32 | karl_w_w | it was overcast and windy, the wind destroyed our pop-up gazebo thing |
| 12:36.40 | ls- | heh... |
| 12:37.01 | VIad | its very easy to get sunburned if you swim on the beach and don't use baby factor |
| 12:37.17 | karl_w_w | perth weather is just the worst honestly |
| 12:37.23 | VIad | I literally dip myself into x50 for embryos to avoid sunburns |
| 12:37.42 | Phixion | b-b-b-b-but sun |
| 12:38.06 | VIad | the office lights provide my skin with enough C vitamins |
| 12:38.12 | Phixion | :) |
| 12:38.13 | VIad | e-C vitamins |
| 12:38.27 | Phixion | is that true? |
| 12:38.37 | karl_w_w | D |
| 12:39.31 | VIad | probably not |
| 12:40.00 | Phixion | :-( |
| 12:41.10 | VIad | unrelated, how much Hz does IPS run on? |
| 12:41.15 | VIad | like framerate wise |
| 12:41.29 | VIad | having problems finding the hz this monitor runs at :P http://www.apple.com/shop/product/HKMY2VC/A/lg-ultrafine-4k-display |
| 12:41.57 | VIad | for a display that expensive, I'd assume like 200 hz or more? |
| 12:42.09 | VIad | like a TV, tons of TVs run at like 1k Hz these days |
| 12:42.14 | VIad | if not more |
| 12:42.20 | nevcairiel | they dont, thats just marketing terms |
| 12:42.30 | nevcairiel | and that display is 60hz |
| 12:42.35 | VIad | fuck that shit |
| 12:42.41 | VIad | so much money for 60 hz |
| 12:42.48 | VIad | I am no facebook peasant |
| 12:43.08 | nevcairiel | thats not really that much money for a good 4K display |
| 12:43.25 | VIad | but I like my frames |
| 12:43.38 | VIad | I physically feel the difference using 60 vs 144 hz |
| 12:43.42 | nevcairiel | you couldnt realistically output more then 60hz at 4k anyway |
| 12:43.44 | VIad | feeling less eye strain |
| 12:44.00 | VIad | the tech isnt there yet |
| 12:44.12 | VIad | was thinking maybe going 2k, those seem to be able to handle more than 60 hz |
| 12:44.54 | nevcairiel | you should buy a screen that does what you want it to do, want high refresh at lower res? get one of those, dont look at 4k screens =p |
| 12:45.25 | nevcairiel | 4k over 60hz is still a monitor generation away |
| 12:45.34 | nevcairiel | not to mention that gpu power isnt there to do that anyway |
| 12:45.43 | VIad | I just randomly came by this |
| 12:45.48 | VIad | and was curious how much hz that used |
| 12:46.05 | VIad | maybe apple had made something unique for their lineup :p |
| 12:46.21 | VIad | this looks good https://www.komplett.no/product/898769/gaming/skjerm-tilbehoer/skjermer/asus-27-led-g-sync-rog-swift-pg278qr# |
| 12:46.30 | VIad | asus g-sync 27" |
| 12:46.32 | VIad | 2k |
| 12:47.53 | VIad | would I be retarded if I bought that? |
| 12:50.39 | nevcairiel | dunno, its probably ok |
| 12:50.45 | nevcairiel | plenty people use that |
| 12:51.17 | nevcairiel | i wonder if AMR changed something how their sim works, its much slower then it used to be |
| 12:51.21 | VIad | yes |
| 12:51.26 | VIad | they changed their client sim software |
| 12:51.42 | VIad | also they added a kromrok sim fight, and I do not agree with the stats it wasnt me to go at all |
| 12:51.48 | VIad | unsure if its me or the sim :/ |
| 12:51.53 | nevcairiel | probably you |
| 12:51.58 | VIad | makes me uncomfortable |
| 12:52.10 | nevcairiel | also dont use the machine learning mode, its kinda bad =p |
| 12:52.18 | VIad | I used that on kromrok to try it out |
| 12:52.31 | nevcairiel | its called krosus |
| 12:52.32 | nevcairiel | but ok |
| 12:52.35 | VIad | krosus yes |
| 12:52.39 | VIad | kromrok from brf :p |
| 12:52.45 | nevcairiel | i'm simming with that now to replace my ursoc sims |
| 12:52.52 | nevcairiel | but its much slower then i remember it |
| 12:52.59 | VIad | so far ursoc sims with machine learning wasnt that bad either |
| 12:54.09 | VIad | how do I delete old sims in AMR? |
| 12:54.21 | VIad | nvm found it :p |
| 12:54.22 | nevcairiel | select them, click the delete link |
| 12:54.25 | VIad | yea |
| 12:54.36 | VIad | was looking fo rsome reason in the sim page itself, report |
| 12:55.10 | VIad | the heirloom caster trinket btw looks OP than many raid trinkets |
| 12:55.32 | VIad | it has a high proc rate, gives 1.1k in haste crit and mastery AND 10% dmg vs demons |
| 12:55.48 | nevcairiel | i only wished there were some tank trinkets that weren terrible |
| 12:55.55 | nevcairiel | +t |
| 12:55.57 | VIad | I use the scorpyron one |
| 12:56.05 | VIad | and chromatic |
| 12:56.18 | VIad | second chance and I like the use for extra shield on top |
| 12:56.23 | nevcairiel | the free death thing is kinda stupid |
| 12:56.34 | nevcairiel | a trinket that benefits you nothing 99% of the fight |
| 12:56.38 | VIad | yeah |
| 12:56.46 | VIad | I want the archimonde legendary in there :P |
| 12:56.50 | nevcairiel | but you're a DH, you like to die randomly |
| 12:56.50 | VIad | but but |
| 12:56.54 | VIad | nah |
| 12:57.02 | VIad | but my other options arent much better either |
| 12:57.08 | VIad | its like my best is the nightbane trinket still |
| 12:57.12 | nevcairiel | i wonder if the trinket can sometimes proc when you wouldnt actually have died |
| 12:57.15 | VIad | its funny how there is nothing from any raids |
| 12:57.19 | VIad | dunno |
| 12:57.20 | nevcairiel | because my co-DH tank has the proc up all the time =p |
| 12:57.24 | VIad | lol |
| 12:57.25 | VIad | nah |
| 12:57.27 | VIad | then he is just bad |
| 12:57.32 | VIad | I often have it proc when I messed up |
| 12:57.38 | VIad | since I dont use the DH talent anymore |
| 12:57.41 | VIad | I prefer the shield :) |
| 12:57.50 | VIad | so I kind of swapped talent for trinket atm |
| 12:58.17 | nevcairiel | i want the arcway tank trinket in a higher roll |
| 12:58.21 | nevcairiel | that would be so awesome |
| 12:58.23 | VIad | :( |
| 12:58.34 | VIad | I just want a good trinket tbh |
| 12:58.42 | VIad | arcano crystal 920 titanforge |
| 12:58.43 | VIad | :P |
| 12:58.50 | VIad | 1.2k in each stat |
| 12:58.51 | VIad | sick |
| 12:58.56 | nevcairiel | its jim week again |
| 12:58.59 | VIad | yes |
| 12:59.04 | VIad | never gotten that never |
| 12:59.09 | VIad | coined some stupid shit |
| 12:59.12 | VIad | gonna try later tonight |
| 13:01.11 | VIad | AMR wants me to get my grotesque statuette for mastery, and the fang of tichondrius for leech and agility |
| 13:01.15 | VIad | looks horrible but :p |
| 13:01.20 | VIad | mastery agi makes sense |
| 13:01.54 | VIad | I dont completely agree with all changes |
| 13:01.57 | VIad | like it dont want me to prydaz |
| 13:02.03 | VIad | but prydaz is so good ,_, |
| 13:02.21 | nevcairiel | the tich leech trinket is pretty neat in some situations |
| 13:02.32 | nevcairiel | but overall not very tank-y |
| 13:04.12 | nevcairiel | i got the infernal contract trinket, but its kinda meh |
| 13:04.29 | VIad | my goal atm is get tier chest and head later, for the 4p |
| 13:04.40 | nevcairiel | i need cloak and shoulders for that |
| 13:04.42 | VIad | and so I can equip legendary gloves, atm tier piece in there |
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| 14:17.27 | karl_w_w | blud inner cow! |
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| 14:58.30 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel: You can get 4K @ 60hz, we do it at work. |
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| 14:58.55 | nevcairiel | You should read better |
| 14:59.13 | Thunder_Child | "<nevcairiel> 4k over 60hz is still a monitor generation away" |
| 14:59.54 | Thunder_Child | Perhaps I mis-understood? |
| 15:00.04 | Thunder_Child | misunderstood* |
| 15:00.14 | nevcairiel | over 60 clearly means more |
| 15:06.19 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.29 | mckenziemc | a over b usually means a via b |
| 15:11.33 | Simca | thisisfinedog.gif |
| 15:11.50 | nevcairiel | mckenziemc: but that doesnt make any sense in that line =p |
| 15:14.01 | mckenziemc | it does, as a metonym |
| 15:14.08 | mckenziemc | 60 Hz "transmission" |
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| 15:33.21 | foxlit | or maybe http://pastebin.com/gWhkKj52 |
| 15:35.22 | foxlit | [it's annoyingly difficult to find a website which reasonably reformats s-expressions] |
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| 16:01.05 | Semlar | VIad: all i did for this was make an OnUpdate script that went over every member of the group and checked if they were in combat |
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| 17:15.21 | VIad | Semlar: performance wise same than just running the code during the UNIT_THREAT_SITUATION_UPDATE event? |
| 17:15.55 | Semlar | it's not going to matter |
| 17:16.20 | VIad | or maybe UNIT_THREAT_SITUATION_UPDATE dont fire for other people where I am not in combatg with their mob >_> |
| 17:16.48 | Semlar | it would fire because their raid frame lights up when they're getting attacked regardless |
| 17:17.10 | VIad | you have that UNIT_COMBAT thing that might cause that though, hmm |
| 17:17.45 | Semlar | i don't know how quickly the event fires in relation to them actually entering combat |
| 17:17.50 | VIad | yeah |
| 17:18.00 | Semlar | i was using an OnUpdate script because i was making a timer that gets displayed on screen anyway |
| 17:18.17 | VIad | oh do you think I can pre-register :RegisterUnitEvent for units that dont exist as of the time? like raid# and party# along with player? :P |
| 17:18.42 | VIad | hmm, maybe party#pet and such too, hmm |
| 17:19.02 | Semlar | to be honest i think registering a bunch of unit events would be slower than just watching the event |
| 17:19.21 | Semlar | or at least more annoying to write |
| 17:19.23 | VIad | really? oh |
| 17:19.27 | VIad | probably |
| 17:19.34 | VIad | was trying to make it efficient if I do a 40 man raid :P |
| 17:19.52 | Semlar | these are not the things that are going to affect efficiency enough to care about |
| 17:20.06 | Semlar | just write it in the most convenient way |
| 17:21.39 | VIad | hooksecurefunc("Aura_OnUpdate",function() UIParent:HookScript("OnUpdate", MYFUNC) end) |
| 17:21.59 | Semlar | don't hook OnUpdate scripts |
| 17:22.48 | Semlar | i don't know whether it makes a difference, but cpu usage gets reported as insanely high if you hook another frame's OnUpdate script |
| 17:23.16 | Semlar | i think it just doesn't get measured correctly though |
| 17:23.18 | nevcairiel | its also pointless to do so really |
| 17:23.30 | VIad | it was a joke |
| 17:23.35 | nevcairiel | you know when its going to be called: all the damn time! :P |
| 17:23.38 | VIad | yes |
| 17:24.18 | Semlar | the main reason to question whether you should use UNIT_THREAT_SITUATION_UPDATE is whether it's capable of firing before OnUpdate would catch it |
| 17:24.20 | VIad | Aftermath guy hooked Aura_OnUpdate and ran a code that created stuff and did a HookScript inside there, I just hope he did it correctly :p |
| 17:24.50 | Semlar | you would very quickly notice whether that hook was applying another hook |
| 17:24.51 | nevcairiel | hook all the things, all the time, repeatedly |
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| 17:26.06 | VIad | I hook in my hooks |
| 17:26.14 | VIad | so I can hook while I get a BSOD |
| 17:26.30 | VIad | hook into hook must run out of memory at some point |
| 17:26.53 | Semlar | it would slow your game down to a crawl if you were creating new hooks every frame |
| 17:27.05 | Semlar | and whatever they were hooking was actually happening |
| 17:27.14 | nevcairiel | now imagine doing that expoentially |
| 17:27.51 | nevcairiel | hook the onupdate fro mthe onupdate hook |
| 17:28.43 | Semlar | i hooked UIParent's OnUpdate script just to avoid creating a frame for one of my scripts, but if you ran the profiler it made it look like my addon was using an absurd amount of cpu |
| 17:30.09 | Semlar | i think it was combining everything that the function i was hooking was doing too |
| 17:30.58 | Semlar | now you could just run C_Timer to do the same thing i suppose |
| 17:33.56 | Semlar | i'm trying to figure out how i should deal with the fact that you can call NotifyInspect without INSPECT_READY ever firing in response |
| 17:34.58 | Semlar | i think i'm going to have to add a timeout for it |
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| 17:52.40 | VIad | Semlar: UnitAffectingCombat is true and never false when "player" exits combat using UNIT_THREAT_SITUATION_UPDATE |
| 17:52.43 | VIad | so yeah it's unusable |
| 17:53.43 | Semlar | what do you mean, the event fires before UnitAffectingCombat returns false? |
| 17:55.26 | VIad | ye |
| 17:55.33 | VIad | or doesnt fire at all |
| 17:56.22 | Semlar | that's the big problem, i'm not sure that the threat events always go off just because you entered combat |
| 17:56.55 | Semlar | there may be another event to watch, all i know is i used OnUpdate for this same situation |
| 17:57.26 | Semlar | i was also using it to output who entered combat first |
| 17:57.43 | Semlar | the only time it was ever wrong was when the entire raid was put into combat at once when a boss was pulled |
| 17:58.01 | Semlar | and even then only sometimes |
| 17:58.32 | Semlar | there's probably a better way to do that, but not one as simple |
| 18:01.31 | Semlar | i see no events you even could watch to catch someone else entering combat |
| 18:02.33 | Semlar | possibly UNIT_FLAGS |
| 18:02.58 | Semlar | and the combat log, obviously, but that's a lot trickier |
| 18:05.23 | Semlar | you could try checking the combat status of everyone when UNIT_FLAGS fires, it might have the advantage of firing before OnUpdate is run |
| 18:06.05 | Semlar | so it might be able to actually see who entered combat first even when everyone gets put into combat at once |
| 18:07.22 | Semlar | actually the combat log wouldn't work because you can enter combat without anything showing up in there |
| 18:25.06 | VIad | UNIT_FLAGS might be smart |
| 18:26.00 | znf | Ha. |
| 18:26.21 | znf | What everyone tought it will happen: new ranks for artifact traits will be an increase in power |
| 18:26.43 | znf | What happens: the base rank is actually decreased, so with the new ranks you will end up at pretty much the same power, just a new endless grind |
| 18:38.10 | ls- | eh? |
| 18:38.30 | ls- | so far I see only stamina % nerfs :p |
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| 18:43.54 | znf | ls-, shields too |
| 18:51.12 | Simca | A Steamy Romance Saga (New) Defeat Thrashbite the Scornful after all party members have read the entire Steamy Romance saga within Cathedral of Eternal Night on Mythic difficulty. 10 points. |
| 18:51.15 | Simca | really? |
| 18:58.54 | ls- | at least it's not mythic raid achievement, just imagine something like this, but for ToS :D |
| 19:04.05 | Semlar | viad detected http://i.imgur.com/eey8BiJ.jpg |
| 19:05.18 | Gnarfoz | accurate action bars |
| 19:05.50 | ls- | lol :D |
| 19:05.51 | Semlar | i have to work with what i have |
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| 20:26.13 | VIad | omg |
| 20:26.16 | VIad | that target :D |
| 20:29.04 | Semlar | that is my deluxe crosshairs addon |
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| 20:34.34 | Thunder_Child | The super deluxe one actually blanks out the rest of the screen except where the targeting reticule is. |
| 20:34.56 | ls- | Glory of the Tomb Raider :D damn Blizz should add %s Croft title as a reward for some silly achievement in 7.2 :D |
| 20:35.17 | ls- | some archaeology stuff mb :D |
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| 20:51.26 | nevcairiel | well that was an obvious choice when the raid is calld tomb something =p |
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| 22:02.36 | Semlar | apparently OnTooltipSetUnit fires before the tooltip is shown |
| 22:03.21 | nevcairiel | well yes, you set the unit and then show it |
| 22:04.20 | Semlar | what are the odds that's going to fire in a situation where you don't want the tooltip shown |
| 22:04.44 | Semlar | because i need to add a line to the tooltip and you have to cal Show on it to do that |
| 22:08.59 | Semlar | i'm sure it's not important |
| 22:12.06 | Semlar | i suppose i could react to OnShow instead |
| 22:12.56 | Semlar | i'm not sure if it fires while it's still visible though |
| 22:13.25 | Semlar | nope |
| 22:14.11 | Semlar | i'd have to hook both of them |
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| 23:17.27 | TheDanW | p3lim: we haven't had any luck reproducing the "script ran too long" on SetUnit, if you see any patterns or have specific models maybe let me know and i'll have QA look into it |
| 23:18.04 | p3lim | TheDanW: Alright, but I doubt we'll get that information due to the randomness we've seen it happen |
| 23:18.32 | p3lim | Seems to only be happening on the target though |
| 23:18.47 | p3lim | (from the 3 or 4 reports, not enough data to be sure) |
| 23:28.05 | TheDanW | yeah, it's a tricky one |
| 23:36.33 | foxlit | that error is kind of insane anyway. Interrupting execution of arbitrary code and expecting anything good to happen is weird. |
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