| 00:06.38 | mckenziemc | it's a Stanzilla bug |
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| 00:21.41 | fewyn | blizzzzzzard |
| 00:21.47 | fewyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:22.00 | fewyn | they are greyed out |
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| 00:29.37 | Gnarfoz | as almost everything else |
| 00:29.51 | Gnarfoz | need 186957 AP :| but nothing left |
| 00:42.16 | kd3 | bah. need to take my phone apart. dust got under the camera lens somehow |
| 00:45.32 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: run a mythic. |
| 00:45.40 | Primer | m+ that is |
| 00:46.05 | Gnarfoz | currently in the endless wait for a healer and a tank ;) |
| 01:06.06 | Gnarfoz | ah yes, didn't even make it past boss #1 |
| 01:06.20 | Gnarfoz | I should know better than to try +12 in a random group |
| 01:06.48 | Gnarfoz | but, since it's past 02:00, there's new WQs ;-) |
| 01:08.39 | znf | I've watched half of the first episode of Legion |
| 01:08.53 | znf | I don't understand shit so far |
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| 01:19.26 | Gnarfoz | yay, done with thisi weapon |
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| 01:31.35 | Gnarfoz | ~seen ls- |
| 01:31.36 | purl | ls- <~ls@180.183.94.157> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 9h 38m 44s ago, saying: 'VIad: /rl is OP, nerfs needed..'. |
| 02:21.58 | mckenziemc | ah the information age, where vague information is plentiful but accurate details are hard to come by |
| 02:22.54 | kd3 | oh shit. they're worried the oroville dam is going to fail. that's really going to fuck up half the state's water supply |
| 02:23.19 | mckenziemc | not the dam |
| 02:25.24 | Stanzilla | god dam it |
| 02:25.51 | mckenziemc | i'm trying to find official wording on the emergency spillway, supposedly there was serious concern it would "fail," which sounds like more than just erosion; i had to look on google earth to see how the lip is constructed. Looks like it's a concrete lip, so failure wouldn't mean v-shaped erosion like what migth happen when a levee fails, but the only way i can see "failure" being applicable would be if they're concerned about pres |
| 02:26.05 | mckenziemc | that would be serious indeed, but no hard details |
| 02:26.30 | mckenziemc | don't know if 2nd to last line was cut |
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| 02:32.42 | mckenziemc | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/OrovilleDam.jpg that leftmost portion, where the road moves away from the dam after crossing the main spillway, is the emergency spillway |
| 02:34.05 | kd3 | https://twitter.com/NWSSacramento/status/830961883708608513 |
| 02:35.31 | kd3 | also https://preview-alerts.weather.gov/products/NWS-IDP-PROD-2242916-2107228 |
| 03:12.36 | mckenziemc | https://twitter.com/CA_DWR/status/830972294784655361 |
| 03:13.32 | kd3 | talk about a last ditch move |
| 03:21.28 | mckenziemc | http://www.krcrtv.com/krcr-news-channel-7-live-stream |
| 03:21.59 | kd3 | also http://www.kcra.com/nowcast |
| 03:23.51 | mckenziemc | we don't see any concern == wait until actual failures to change status, apparently |
| 03:24.23 | mckenziemc | concern with untested structures* |
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| 03:42.23 | ls- | Gnarfoz: you're imagining things. "oh, more of that item" never applied to items :p |
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| 08:20.36 | VIad | oh god, there is a hideous creature in the office today! it keeps making loud noise, and sometimes it looks at me, then suddenly continues shreeking and banging a plastic toy against the table. it's creepy af |
| 08:22.17 | nevcairiel | dont make fun of your coworkers children |
| 08:24.23 | VIad | it appears to have been taken out with a pacifier |
| 08:25.58 | Phixion | :o |
| 08:27.22 | VIad | having babies at the workplace is hard for everyone, like I am eating my breakfast on my table, baby looking at me and cries. pacifier suggests hungryness? I dunno much about babies. but cant stop feeling judged for eating in front of it and making it cry >_> its my beckfast! |
| 08:27.45 | mckenziemc | gives VIad a pacifier. |
| 08:28.02 | VIad | parries mckenziemc's attack. |
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| 08:30.20 | mckenziemc | my debuff cannot be parried |
| 08:30.31 | Justice | you can't silence justice! |
| 08:30.48 | mckenziemc | you need to learn your CC categories |
| 08:31.11 | VIad | you miss because our level difference is too great |
| 08:32.03 | VIad | what school is the pacify debuff? |
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| 08:33.26 | VIad | TIL Chaos Damage in wow is just lowest resistance stat across all resistances :/ |
| 08:33.45 | VIad | shame the old school "chaos goes trough all resistances" type is gone :( |
| 08:33.58 | Phixion | chaotic |
| 08:34.06 | VIad | didnt the old warlock chaos bolt do that in tbc? |
| 08:34.21 | VIad | wc3 might be a bit too old to use as baseline :p |
| 08:34.30 | VIad | chaos was great against fortified units |
| 08:34.50 | nevcairiel | these things basically lost all meaning a long time ago anyway |
| 08:34.59 | nevcairiel | who cares what element a spell is anymore |
| 08:35.21 | VIad | school lockout is still used |
| 08:35.38 | VIad | and regarding resistances, it would be used to buypass certain defensives |
| 08:36.36 | nebula | i don't think that was ever a thing, chaos bolt use to ignore resil, but chaos as an element wasn't added until like mop |
| 08:37.00 | VIad | chaos isnt a mechanic either though, like wowhead just says it deals damage based on all resistances :p |
| 08:37.06 | nebula | i vaguely remember something like holy was the only resist you couldn't raise |
| 08:37.08 | VIad | I assume it means like the frostfile bolt |
| 08:37.27 | nevcairiel | there was a holy resistance potion a long time ago |
| 08:37.41 | nevcairiel | but i dont think bosses often used holy damage |
| 08:37.54 | VIad | maybe hov :D |
| 08:38.13 | VIad | looks very holy-ish with them yellow spells |
| 08:43.58 | VIad | a havoc will do more damage if you can debuff an enemy to have less resistances, if that happens to make them take more damage than their physical resistance/armor |
| 08:44.11 | VIad | since havoc operates with heavy chaos damage based spells |
| 08:45.12 | ls- | TIL, "caster" return of UnitAura/Buff/Debuff is never "boss1", "boss2", etc... |
| 08:46.05 | VIad | gotta call that UnitIsUnit 247 |
| 08:46.06 | ls- | if you target a boss, caster will be "target", if yo have nameplates enabled, it'll be "nameplate1" or something, but if none of those exist, it'll be nil T_T |
| 08:46.25 | VIad | really? never fallback to boss# if nothing else is valid? |
| 08:46.26 | ls- | yeah, but it's useless when caster is nil :p |
| 08:46.32 | ls- | never |
| 08:46.36 | VIad | wow, so bad |
| 08:47.06 | ls- | might be a bug, so I'll tell TheDanW about it |
| 08:47.18 | ls- | when he's here ofc :p |
| 08:47.49 | VIad | he will know, you mentioned his name :P |
| 08:48.04 | nebula | ls, good thing there's a return to indicate it came from a boss unit! |
| 08:48.13 | ls- | actually |
| 08:48.18 | ls- | it doesn't always work :D |
| 08:48.46 | nebula | when the caster is a bunny not flagged as a boss, i suppose |
| 08:48.52 | mckenziemc | arbitrarily restarts VIad's computer for "updates" |
| 08:49.15 | VIad | frankticly writes "shutdown -a" in command line, several times! |
| 08:49.22 | ls- | I had to add caster and (UnitIsUnit(caster, "boss1") or UnitIsUnit(caster, "boss2") or UnitIsUnit(caster, "boss3") or UnitIsUnit(caster, "boss4") or UnitIsUnit(caster, "boss5")) to make sure that it's a boss aura, but even then, if caster is nil, I can't detect it T_T |
| 08:50.14 | VIad | is it just me, or should unit be boss# if it is added to the boss system to begin with? |
| 08:50.21 | VIad | regardless of other criteria |
| 08:50.34 | nebula | probably |
| 08:50.41 | ls- | I thought so too... |
| 08:51.04 | nevcairiel | the caster unit is never very reliable for non-player auras |
| 08:51.10 | nevcairiel | wouldnt expect change =p |
| 08:51.41 | VIad | guess you need to like make a frame to register for the boss# units and inspect their casts in there >_> |
| 08:52.29 | nevcairiel | the "boss aura" flag is unfortunately sometimes missing on relevant things, but on the other hand some bosses do meaningless debuffs that you wouldnt want to see, so the only good solution is to whitelist those that matter and are not a boss aura already |
| 08:52.30 | VIad | at 110 isnt a skull/boss unit same as level 113? |
| 08:53.05 | ls- | fallback to "boss*" would be a nice addition/fix though :p |
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| 08:54.04 | VIad | trilliax add is level 113 instead of being flagged as boss, fun fact :p |
| 08:54.26 | VIad | wonder why blizz went with that except if it can level up or something :3 |
| 08:54.51 | VIad | I remember some events like AQ gates related, some mobs were 4 levels higher, level 64, making them harder than bosses ^^ |
| 08:55.06 | VIad | not really expecting such mobs anymore |
| 09:03.14 | nebula | adds are usually like that |
| 09:03.40 | nebula | max+2/3 instead of skull |
| 09:04.15 | nevcairiel | +3 is not quite common though, but it happens |
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| 09:19.59 | VIad | 113 was orange :d |
| 09:20.20 | VIad | I wouldnt really notice at all if it was 112 and yellow text on it |
| 09:20.41 | VIad | WTB 114 adds |
| 09:20.55 | VIad | let's go wild! make one that is 119 >:) |
| 09:21.11 | VIad | reduce damage so crushing is cirka what you'd expect a tank to take to the face :P |
| 09:22.05 | VIad | better yet make some fixating add that is quick and looks like it will destroy you, berserk, glowing, skull, hits crushing, but ultimately does like 500k DPS :P |
| 09:22.14 | VIad | easily outhealable heh |
| 09:24.12 | VIad | omg wtb math boss |
| 09:24.16 | VIad | adds fixate and walk to people |
| 09:24.20 | VIad | you can bump your adds |
| 09:24.28 | VIad | adds have + * / - affixes |
| 09:24.45 | VIad | their stacks of buff of those determines how the end result is |
| 09:25.01 | VIad | so raging adds would determine the boss attack speed at enrage phase |
| 09:25.34 | VIad | adds fixate random people and walk to them, you try to get the best outcome to beat it, or fail and get a unkillable boss, worst case :p |
| 09:25.34 | ls- | make it scale w/ players' levels :p |
| 09:25.48 | ls- | legacy raid farmers will be happy about it :p |
| 09:26.13 | VIad | skull marker on a mob != +3 level diff |
| 09:26.30 | VIad | I remember wotlk skull mobs hitting like a 83 unit |
| 09:26.34 | VIad | on a high level player |
| 09:26.42 | VIad | pre-wod |
| 09:26.54 | VIad | in the end the skull is probably just a flag on/off |
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| 09:27.35 | ls- | but you aren't talking about skulls now |
| 09:27.38 | VIad | nah |
| 09:27.41 | VIad | just remembered |
| 09:27.58 | VIad | cases in the past where blizz used skulls but fixed levels, even if skull boss means max level + 3 |
| 09:28.01 | VIad | or your level +3 ideally |
| 09:28.16 | VIad | probably why often raids had these must be level # to enter |
| 09:28.52 | VIad | venture co event is fun with 16-110 scaling |
| 09:29.01 | VIad | extremely overpowered for certain level 16 classes :P |
| 09:29.26 | VIad | my 20 hunter bank is survival and on my meter I do 40-50% of the total damage |
| 09:29.52 | VIad | one, the meters are broken, or two, scaling makes my abilities hit harder on my versions, than level 110s |
| 09:29.57 | ls- | nah, skull often meant something like player's level + 9 or something like that, while I was levelling my pala not so long ago I saw a lot ally players w/ skulls instead of levels :p |
| 09:29.58 | Shockah|Work | that's what i always do on my 110 hunter |
| 09:30.04 | Shockah|Work | 950k dps :S |
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| 09:30.31 | VIad | ls-: thats another type of skull :D yeah if higher than 10 levels |
| 09:31.04 | VIad | Shockah|Work: I compared my level 20 to my 110 friend dps meter |
| 09:31.15 | VIad | found out that the result were different |
| 09:31.27 | VIad | like on mine I was top, but on his I was like bottom :P |
| 09:31.39 | ls- | and iirc sometimes UnitLevel returns -1, that's another skull case :p |
| 09:31.45 | VIad | but the other players had on mine like 50-200 dps (not K) and on his 50-200 K dps :P |
| 09:31.55 | Shockah|Work | VIad, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/110993329205805056/279943705744506880/unknown.png |
| 09:32.20 | Shockah|Work | scaling is weird |
| 09:32.45 | VIad | if you are level 110 and got mythic NH gear your outgearing the intended difficulty, hence do a lot more damage |
| 09:32.57 | Shockah|Work | not even heroic NH gear :S |
| 09:33.14 | VIad | a level 100 could do the same if their gear is from mythic HFC as the scale on the mobs would be set to probably a leveling 100 character |
| 09:33.19 | VIad | nah I know :p |
| 09:33.23 | VIad | but scaling math is funky |
| 09:33.34 | VIad | I reckon blizz scales based on leveling avg gear minus heirlooms |
| 09:34.00 | Shockah|Work | gotta love BM hunter burst though |
| 09:34.13 | VIad | just unsure how the server actually makes sense out of the combat numbers when showing a level 110 what a level 16 is doing in DPS :P |
| 09:34.29 | VIad | if my level 16 aimshot crits the boss down 10% of its health |
| 09:34.38 | VIad | is it showing as boss being at 90% on the 110 end? :P |
| 09:34.53 | VIad | in that case thats like a million damage and such, so it gets weird |
| 09:35.51 | VIad | I remember leveling my mage back in the day, at level 99 it had amazing stats, like literally 50% crit and shit |
| 09:35.54 | VIad | was so OP when questing |
| 09:36.01 | VIad | ding come level 100 I had 8% crit :D |
| 09:36.18 | Ellypse | What's also weird is healing as a lvl 20 and seeing 400-ish heals on your screens giving lvl 110 players 10% of their heals ^^ |
| 09:36.20 | VIad | stuff like that would also affect the performance when doing scaled content |
| 09:36.27 | VIad | Ellypse: I had the other problem |
| 09:36.31 | VIad | I couldn't heal them :/ |
| 09:36.49 | VIad | my 16 healer druid |
| 09:36.55 | VIad | struggled to keep people alive with rejuv |
| 09:37.09 | VIad | a level 110 didnt even register the health change |
| 09:37.16 | VIad | so I never went in healer, only tank :P |
| 09:37.22 | Ellypse | I struggled with a character without heirlooms, but once I equipped a couple of heirlooms it was fine |
| 09:37.24 | VIad | a 110 healer can heal me tenfolds my health |
| 09:37.46 | VIad | I found healing broken when healing high lvls |
| 09:38.01 | VIad | I reckon low levels and a high level healer is easier :p |
| 09:38.03 | Ellypse | But lvl 20 priest is not fun, you basically have renew and flash heal, no AOE :( |
| 09:38.11 | VIad | on level 20 |
| 09:38.14 | VIad | renew should be enough |
| 09:38.18 | VIad | renew each person |
| 09:38.32 | VIad | but my experience was it wasnt doing anything for level 110s |
| 09:38.34 | Ellypse | It's not if they stand in the perfume pools :P |
| 09:38.41 | VIad | kek :d |
| 09:39.09 | VIad | it smells good :< |
| 09:39.48 | Ellypse | It's okay if you pick the vial thing to not take damage, but you've got to stand in the right one then ^^ |
| 09:40.06 | VIad | I hate the vials, having to loot it, use it, destroy it for bag space |
| 09:40.15 | VIad | wish it just gave me the buff :p |
| 09:40.17 | VIad | when clicking the vial |
| 09:41.22 | Ellypse | Hmm, yes, that would make more sense. We don't need it outside of this encounter |
| 09:41.43 | ls- | hmm... even more reports about ppl seeing toasts for other ppls loot... |
| 09:42.00 | VIad | I bet not many have noticed this during guldan :P http://i.imgur.com/lAgA57c.png |
| 09:42.22 | nevcairiel | what, the sky opening? |
| 09:42.52 | VIad | yes |
| 09:43.03 | VIad | everyone too busy not messing up :p |
| 09:43.17 | nevcairiel | looks a bit like the crack in the universe in doctor who season 5 |
| 09:43.23 | VIad | also wtb pitbull to skin my boss frame on the top right :( |
| 09:43.30 | Ellypse | Or the first Avengers movie |
| 09:43.53 | VIad | also wtb dbm bars on the right to reorder so low timers are on top |
| 09:43.57 | VIad | and larger timers on bottom :P |
| 09:43.59 | VIad | longer* |
| 09:45.35 | VIad | in mythic I expect the sky rip to engulf the platform and all in a visually pleasing manner |
| 09:45.51 | VIad | and send the raid into a trip through time in the phase change :D |
| 09:46.47 | VIad | I am usually too busy doing stuff to appreciate visuals |
| 09:47.03 | VIad | like on xavius the ground is a mirror |
| 09:47.16 | VIad | stuff falling are actually coming from the floor :p |
| 09:47.39 | VIad | the damaging circles when you gorw insane had projectiles coming up from the bottom |
| 09:47.46 | VIad | stuff like that, minor but cool |
| 09:58.19 | VIad | LOL @ https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/5to04n/fire_mages_cant_use_endgame_trinkets/ |
| 10:01.59 | mckenziemc | damages VIad's spillway. |
| 10:03.15 | VIad | did you hear, post 7.3 suramar will become a sanctuary city for both factions, with AH, bank, portals and so on |
| 10:03.43 | VIad | perfect ending to the whole zone, ending up in peace again. withered are now in the city and the old base is a museum. |
| 10:03.56 | mckenziemc | Heard it from VIad (tm) |
| 10:04.03 | VIad | ^ yes :P |
| 10:04.13 | VIad | admit it, it would be amazing |
| 10:04.32 | VIad | but I doubt blizz would put in so much work to make the zone peaceful again |
| 10:05.06 | Shockah|Work | also you'd have to make it phased like Blasted Lands i guess |
| 10:06.01 | Shockah|Work | and it would be weird if it was available for new chars without doing the questline |
| 10:06.10 | Shockah|Work | but also weird if it wasn't |
| 10:06.29 | VIad | it was a reddit post, kind of, https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/5tjat8/i_wish_that_once_were_finished_raiding_the/ |
| 10:06.51 | nebula | then Sargeras nukes it before the next expansion, killing everyone |
| 10:06.52 | Shockah|Work | also is there any point in doing so in 7.3 |
| 10:06.53 | VIad | it should be a thing for those that finish the quest lines and finish the raid |
| 10:06.59 | Shockah|Work | unless they plan on 7.4 and 7.5 too |
| 10:07.19 | Shockah|Work | otherwise no point, we're going 8.0 anyway :S |
| 10:07.23 | VIad | :p |
| 10:07.44 | VIad | we need a proper phasing fix |
| 10:07.53 | VIad | i.e. set your phase to party member |
| 10:08.00 | mckenziemc | surely you mean 8.0.5 |
| 10:08.02 | VIad | before blizz can do such large scale phasing changes |
| 10:08.09 | Shockah|Work | meant 8.0.x |
| 10:08.20 | Shockah|Work | we never get x.0 |
| 10:08.21 | VIad | you mean X.X.5 |
| 10:09.57 | mckenziemc | doesn't matter, you won't like to see it |
| 10:10.00 | mckenziemc | kills VIad. |
| 10:10.22 | Shockah|Work | don't you love when half of your workforce is in the US and the other half EU and a guy from the US part tells you it will be done for tomorrow but it was on friday so you can't check until monday, and you check on monday and it's still not done |
| 10:10.25 | VIad | has no life and can't be killed. |
| 10:10.41 | VIad | kek :d |
| 10:10.51 | VIad | then they lied :d |
| 10:11.33 | nebula | no, it was an alternate fact |
| 10:11.53 | Shockah|Work | the guy said it will be done by tomorrow on thursday |
| 10:12.06 | Shockah|Work | which means he should have done it by the end of his friday |
| 10:12.15 | Shockah|Work | which means my friday-saturday night |
| 10:12.37 | Shockah|Work | it's monday, nothing changed |
| 10:12.46 | VIad | yes |
| 10:13.04 | VIad | I see how a -8 hour diff affects you :d |
| 10:13.44 | VIad | its worst if you have to wait for him to do something for you, as it tends to take a work day |
| 10:13.57 | VIad | on the other hand you can finish your day and push the changes, he can continue when you leave office :D |
| 10:14.10 | VIad | the other way works better usually |
| 10:14.12 | nebula | i wish i had so little going on i could just wait for someone else to finish something |
| 10:14.42 | VIad | lobbyist pushing for new laws to meter work on computers so you only get paid for actual work keypresses/mouse movements |
| 10:15.22 | nebula | if my boss or part of the team travels, everyone else starts working from their time zone, asian trips suck |
| 10:15.55 | VIad | glad my boss dont travel like that :p |
| 10:16.26 | VIad | also doesnt make sense, as norwegian law here wouldnt let me work past work hours, without resonable accomodation :p |
| 10:16.39 | VIad | financially I'd make huge money if boss makes me work midnight to morning or such :p |
| 10:16.48 | nebula | luckily the us doesn't mind working people to death |
| 10:17.20 | VIad | boss could bring you with him to asia |
| 10:17.23 | VIad | problem fixed :D |
| 10:17.56 | nebula | i usually go, still sucks |
| 10:18.31 | Shockah|Work | VIad, too bad i'm the client/frontend guy |
| 10:18.35 | Shockah|Work | and he's the server/backend |
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| 10:23.57 | VIad | :( |
| 10:24.19 | VIad | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/5ti5jm/you_thought_currently_the_apak_farm_takes_long/ |
| 10:24.22 | VIad | wtf blizz |
| 10:24.47 | VIad | practically made farm 5x times more than it already was, and already its ridiculus |
| 10:25.04 | VIad | alt friendly expansion my ass >_> |
| 10:29.31 | ls- | My ISP is a bitch, capped download speed at 800KB/s per user in entire district, lol |
| 10:43.25 | VIad | ls-: I get triggered when ISP blocks ports or adds speed caps |
| 10:43.39 | VIad | I pay for the speeds I pay for and I expect modern ISP to not block your ports :/ |
| 10:44.02 | VIad | my current ISP blocks port 80 because their routers are open to external traffic so youget their admin webpages |
| 10:44.04 | ls- | and 800KB/s is just too slow... |
| 10:44.13 | VIad | hence why they did the port 80 block on their networks, its retarded |
| 10:44.18 | VIad | 800 kb is very slow |
| 10:44.21 | VIad | how much do you pay for? |
| 10:44.35 | VIad | you should get a refund for the days with such caps |
| 10:44.45 | VIad | shant pay for a service if they dont deliver it :P |
| 10:47.37 | ls- | I pay $40/month T_T |
| 10:47.48 | ls- | or less.. more like $35 |
| 10:58.26 | VIad | you should write a formal complaint and say you expect to have this month free of charge because you arent getting what you pay for |
| 10:58.54 | VIad | you have a contract for a specific up/down and availability with the ISP |
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| 11:04.48 | ls- | no ISP mentions exact spec |
| 11:04.59 | ls- | it's always UP TO smth |
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| 11:17.31 | VIad | but you can argue that 800 kb is clearly out of the contract :p |
| 11:17.47 | VIad | 0-1TB advertisement while avg actual speeds being 500 kb I'd argue fraud lol |
| 11:18.02 | VIad | certain flux is expected, but when its waaay off the target :/ |
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| 11:37.05 | Phixion | I wish I had VIad's job |
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| 11:59.03 | VIad | I am coding in js/web stuff atm |
| 11:59.08 | VIad | its not that bad |
| 12:00.08 | Shockah|Work | "js/web stuff" "not that bad" |
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| 12:02.45 | VIad | not that bad because its just me |
| 12:02.59 | VIad | if people are involved anything becomes horrible :P |
| 12:03.17 | haste | it actually isn't |
| 12:03.45 | haste | JS isn't that tortures to write in anymore |
| 12:04.03 | haste | mainly due to the fact that everything is transpiled |
| 12:06.19 | VIad | I always code assembly |
| 12:11.16 | ls- | noice, now my ISP informed me that they have some technical difficulties and speed may and probably will go down to 250KB/s, loooool |
| 12:11.37 | ls- | at least it's faster than dialup, yo... |
| 12:11.42 | ls- | fml T_T |
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| 12:14.47 | haste | 250KB/s is quite a lot faster than dial-up |
| 12:17.01 | VIad | if this was 1996 youd be drowning in pussy, ls- |
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| 12:17.26 | ls- | kek |
| 12:18.25 | haste | bur |
| 12:18.31 | ls- | from 90-ish Mbit/s to 2 Mbit/s in one day, noice |
| 12:18.35 | ls- | in 2017 T_T |
| 12:18.50 | VIad | 3rd world countries have faster internet on their phones |
| 12:18.56 | haste | I love how my inbox just went from 0 unread mails to 900 unread |
| 12:19.11 | VIad | 899 mails are viagra spam mails |
| 12:19.25 | haste | no, they're all from github |
| 12:19.27 | VIad | thats what happens when you actually buy from one of these |
| 12:23.10 | VIad | haste: get github premium for only $9.99 |
| 12:23.24 | haste | I think that's around what I already pay :P |
| 12:23.57 | haste | oh, it's $7 |
| 12:24.09 | Simca_ | my hard drives always pay the price for my wow dev work |
| 12:24.44 | Simca_ | looking at 4 hours to empty my recycle bin for that drive, it's doing 1 file per second |
| 12:24.46 | VIad | just ramdrive and buypass any RW latencies |
| 12:24.56 | Simca_ | lol ramdrive |
| 12:25.04 | p3lim | haste: you got 900 emails from github in one day? :s |
| 12:25.06 | Simca_ | ship me 1 TB of RAM and i'll go for it |
| 12:25.18 | VIad | wonder if I can copy wow to my ramdrive and run the game from there :D |
| 12:25.35 | Simca_ | sure you can, there's even people crazy enough to think that's a good idea |
| 12:25.45 | VIad | I only got 16 gb ram so :( |
| 12:25.47 | haste | p3lim: it's still pouring in, but we estimate it to stop around 900 |
| 12:26.04 | VIad | my ram |
| 12:26.05 | haste | I think their mailserver is a bit backlogged atm |
| 12:26.05 | p3lim | the hell did you do? :p |
| 12:26.14 | VIad | has a pretty quick RW compared to the drive :d |
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| 12:26.19 | haste | move 700 issues from youtrack to github |
| 12:26.25 | p3lim | right |
| 12:27.03 | haste | I'm so looking forward to not using youtrack |
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| 12:27.12 | VIad | anyone running at 5Ghz CPU btw? |
| 12:27.52 | Simca_ | i'm sure there's somebody with an old athlon running at 5.5, doesn't mean they'll game faster on that ancient arch |
| 12:28.07 | p3lim | VIad: I pushed close to 5 with my old cooling setup |
| 12:28.07 | VIad | I'm guessing better wow performance with +5Ghz OC on the new 6k series, but I am unsure if those CPUs are good at single threads, the benchmarks showed them beeing worse on ST and better at MT |
| 12:28.47 | VIad | the 6k series had one core marked for better ST performance, wondering if that can be used in a special setup in wow's advantage :p |
| 12:29.01 | VIad | I literally have no other games where the CPU affects the FPS that much, as wow :P |
| 12:29.06 | Simca_ | OC is such a grab bag. last two i7s I've gotten couldn't even break 4.1 GHz before becoming unstable, regardless of tweaking |
| 12:29.41 | VIad | running my i7-5820K 3.3Ghz OC to 4.4Ghz for weeks now |
| 12:29.43 | Simca_ | the latter one i actually had to underclock about a year into its life because it stopped being stable at its stock settings rofl |
| 12:31.09 | VIad | the V goes up to like 1.295 during loads |
| 12:31.20 | VIad | if it goes above 1.3 its unstable for me :p |
| 12:31.37 | VIad | so I set it to a core multiplier where it wont |
| 12:32.06 | VIad | using the built in OC settings for my CPU and tweaked a bit the core multiplier only, the rest is auto adjusting. the motherboard is pretty good. |
| 12:32.14 | VIad | asus x99-2 something |
| 12:32.44 | VIad | I assume lockups/bsods are the way to notice if its unstable, right? |
| 12:33.03 | VIad | done stress tests and used for weeks now without any such issues |
| 12:34.03 | VIad | I guess worst case it dies, I have to buy new motherboard, RAM, CPU ,_, |
| 12:34.21 | VIad | unless I can find a CPU that fits my socket, hopefully there are |
| 12:36.26 | p3lim | pushed all of my components into a 10L case |
| 12:36.36 | p3lim | had to get it a bit more portable |
| 12:43.48 | VIad | wowprogress shows some guilds raiding 4 times per week, so sad ,_, and only at like 3-6 mythic in NH |
| 12:44.05 | VIad | our guild raids 2 times per week and we'll get trilliax down next week :d |
| 12:44.32 | VIad | 6 hours per week versus 12 hours or more per week, yet progress wise not that far behind :d |
| 12:44.47 | Phixion | good |
| 12:46.12 | VIad | we need serious teamwork improvement, like chromatic nearly wiped us because people with bomb not rnning out of the raid properly :( |
| 12:46.27 | VIad | 2 tanks 2 dps and 2 healers alive for the last 25 mil HP during soft enrage phase |
| 12:46.36 | VIad | we made it but it would be easier if those 2 with bomb had ran out |
| 12:46.43 | VIad | our fury warrior is like "IMMA KEEP EXECUTING" |
| 12:46.52 | VIad | he surely executed nearly all the raid :P |
| 12:46.59 | nevcairiel | thats what all DPSers do |
| 12:47.02 | nevcairiel | tunnel their DPS |
| 12:47.27 | VIad | if we take dmg done + friendly fire its probably pretty high ;D |
| 12:48.29 | VIad | its fun to inspect the logs |
| 12:48.32 | VIad | to see who fucked up what |
| 12:49.32 | nevcairiel | in my experience the blame game often doesnt work |
| 12:50.35 | nevcairiel | better to try to encourage people to realize their own mistakes |
| 12:50.50 | VIad | ofc |
| 12:50.53 | nevcairiel | of course on constant single failure points, sometimes its better to give them a break from the raid =p |
| 12:51.02 | VIad | thats the idea, look at logs, see who fucked up, try encourage them not to do it next time |
| 12:51.47 | VIad | the dps probably thought we'd make it, was like 1% :P |
| 12:51.54 | VIad | but the healer that also had bomb, also didnt move |
| 12:52.02 | VIad | 2 bombs next to each other = 14 people died :D |
| 12:52.12 | VIad | after first bomb everyone was very low but not dead, yet |
| 12:52.22 | nevcairiel | there are some things you really shouldnt ignore, even at 1% |
| 12:52.28 | VIad | yes |
| 12:52.32 | VIad | that boss is one of them :D |
| 12:52.33 | nevcairiel | thats how 0.1% wipes happen |
| 12:52.46 | VIad | and it nearly did wasn't it for 2 dps using defensives ;D |
| 12:52.49 | VIad | turtle and cloak |
| 12:52.51 | VIad | rogue hunter mvp |
| 12:52.51 | nevcairiel | we can do it, we can do it, we can do it... no you can't, zap! |
| 12:53.55 | VIad | towards the end my CPM went from the average 60 to 77 :D |
| 12:54.09 | VIad | using like everything I got for max defensives boss hurt a lot :( |
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| 12:56.14 | VIad | on trilliax the add apparently makes all cakes remaining to explode |
| 12:56.37 | VIad | its like a clone that spawns cake and shit oh god horrible npc ,_, |
| 13:00.22 | VIad | need to dispell the add mana buff, and zerg it asap before wipe :D |
| 13:00.28 | VIad | like 100% wipe during boss lazer phase |
| 13:00.47 | VIad | 43 seconds the first add, 35 seconds the second add |
| 13:01.34 | VIad | trilliax is literally add fight and dmg to boss is like last priority :p |
| 13:01.47 | VIad | usually cakes to be eaten, bombs to be clicked, adds to be killed |
| 13:12.10 | VIad | this is probably not that interesting unless you are progressing these bosses :( |
| 13:15.13 | VIad | nevcairiel: on my guardian alt I tanked mythic for 840 set of gear, with guild was 840 in like 4 runs + first legendary drop, then proceed to tank m+10 basically mangle trash swipe and ironfur uptime 247 easy :P |
| 13:15.29 | VIad | m+15 timed it shortly after getting like 850 gear |
| 13:15.51 | VIad | point is guardian is so easy to play you only need to have uptime on ironfur 247 and ursol one for magic when needed |
| 13:16.07 | VIad | rest the healer can fix and you just soak like a brainless spunge by having a lot of hp |
| 13:16.11 | VIad | its almost insultingly easy |
| 13:16.40 | VIad | still prefer my DH because I missed mobility, utilities from my sigils, heh :p |
| 13:17.03 | VIad | just stupid that druids have a mastery that directly scales with healers healing you more |
| 13:17.27 | VIad | being badly geared with enough mastery offsets skill by having others keep you alive easier :P |
| 13:17.35 | VIad | thats how I felt about it while doing this |
| 13:23.12 | VIad | no disrespect to you nevcairiel |
| 13:24.01 | VIad | I just had the time to try out my old druid, was my main for many years and its good to see it finally viable again :p |
| 13:24.37 | VIad | doing mixed content I felt druid was hugely nerfed and more boring once guardian became a spec, and it was okay but wasnt as entertained as on my blood following mid-mop when I rerolled |
| 13:25.11 | VIad | if it wasnt for pesky legion and their demon hunter class, I'd probably still main blood sadly :/ kind of glad I didnt considering they were even worse than DH was imho |
| 13:25.23 | VIad | no mobility utility and poor tanking |
| 13:25.33 | Phixion | wall of text hits you critical |
| 13:25.49 | VIad | kek |
| 13:26.01 | VIad | its amarande, I swear |
| 13:26.50 | Phixion | :D |
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| 13:28.14 | VIad | me and nevcairiel might disagree at a lot of things, if not everything |
| 13:28.24 | VIad | but I know everyone mostly agrees with the fact, legion is alt-unfriendly |
| 13:28.29 | VIad | might even call it alt-hostile :/ |
| 13:28.41 | VIad | as long you tunnel one character and spec, its not noticable |
| 13:29.15 | VIad | the moment you wish to perhaps tank AND heal, suddenly once those legendaries dropped and you are at your 4th, like half year until the others drop and its still bound to spec and no way to like, exchange or anything |
| 13:29.31 | VIad | it would be better if you could have legendary drop per spec tbh |
| 13:29.49 | VIad | then you have the AP grind fest, getting worse in 7.2 |
| 13:30.12 | ls- | I have 4 chars :p |
| 13:30.16 | VIad | combining these issues, makes it a horrible experience rerolling |
| 13:30.33 | VIad | you wont notice it until you care about your DPS or raid heroic/mythic :p |
| 13:30.34 | ls- | 1 at 890, 3 at 880 :p |
| 13:30.48 | VIad | that 890 with the right legendary for DPS, suddenly you do 100k more dps |
| 13:31.09 | VIad | my offspec dps has no dps legendaries, doing good but the DH that main dps do a lot better :p |
| 13:31.26 | VIad | even if I wanna go DPS now I am better off rerolling for the drops, but then you have the AP grind hell ,_, |
| 13:31.36 | VIad | I guess with AK 20 book its feasible |
| 13:31.41 | ls- | iirc, best wombocombo provides like 11-ish% dps boost :p |
| 13:31.42 | VIad | one character per spec, even if same class :p |
| 13:32.36 | VIad | anyone remember the "it was a mistake t add dps legendaries" pre 7.1.5? :P |
| 13:32.46 | ls- | ofc :p |
| 13:32.54 | VIad | then they add like the largest dps legendary for DH in that patch |
| 13:33.05 | VIad | the kiljaeden trinket is BIS for DH based on simcraft results :p |
| 13:33.07 | Shockah|Work | because it's too late now |
| 13:33.19 | ls- | what Shockah|Work said |
| 13:33.21 | VIad | could have added 3 utility legendaries |
| 13:33.29 | VIad | why did they have to add 1 per role? :p |
| 13:33.56 | VIad | could have made another one for dps role that isnt a great dps buff |
| 13:34.02 | Shockah|Work | if you worked at Blizzard, would you add more utility or dps legendaries at this point? |
| 13:34.25 | Shockah|Work | if they were all utility from the start, then sure, utility would be best |
| 13:34.45 | VIad | I'd add a hidden legendary that only I could loot that made me able to play havoc and vengeance in one spec by unlocking all talents and abilities whilewearing it, I'd disguise it as a prydaz :3 |
| 13:35.01 | VIad | no but they dilute the legendary pool by adding one more dps legendary |
| 13:35.16 | VIad | hence adding more chance you get dps legendaries that keep the trend I guess :D |
| 13:35.30 | VIad | if I work at blizz |
| 13:35.36 | VIad | I'd reimburst all legendaries in form of tokens |
| 13:35.39 | VIad | and add a token system |
| 13:35.40 | Shockah|Work | adding an utility legendary = lower chance to get dps legendary = outrage |
| 13:35.45 | VIad | you go exchange that with the legendary you want |
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| 13:36.01 | Shockah|Work | isn't that what they're doing now? |
| 13:36.06 | VIad | and later even exchange legendary for another one by adding some curious coins into the mix |
| 13:36.26 | VIad | you dont want prydaz anymore? ok, gimme 10 curious coins I'll swap it out with one of your picking |
| 13:36.49 | VIad | I dunno, I hope they do in 7.2 |
| 13:36.57 | VIad | so I can replace two of the useless once with 2 DPS once :D |
| 13:37.00 | ls- | meh... exchangeable gear sucks... |
| 13:37.02 | VIad | for my offspec |
| 13:37.28 | ls- | punishment is quite important too, you know |
| 13:37.39 | ls- | otherwise ppl won't treasure rewards |
| 13:37.42 | foxlit | "know" is not a verb that applies to viad. |
| 13:37.48 | VIad | they could have done it classy, like legendary quest item drop that turns into a small quest chain and gossip options to interract and specify perhaps what kind of legendary you want it to transform into when you rebuild the artifact :p |
| 13:37.48 | ls- | :D |
| 13:38.05 | VIad | legendaries drop once every 3-6 months once you get your 4th :p |
| 13:38.13 | VIad | first once were rather quick |
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| 13:38.30 | VIad | worst case you are stuck with 4 legendaries that do no DPS increase for your character |
| 13:38.45 | VIad | and if you main DPS it feels horrible to have friends surpass your performance |
| 13:38.46 | VIad | I can see that |
| 13:38.54 | VIad | why punish further? |
| 13:39.49 | VIad | once that rare once in some months legendary drop, it would be nice if you could at least have some say what it is, especially when the system dont give AF about spec |
| 13:40.00 | VIad | if you are a druid, glhf getting the legendaries you want if you play multiple specs :P |
| 13:40.15 | VIad | you realistically only focus one role and stick to it when it comes to legendaries |
| 13:40.37 | VIad | adding some choice would make this nicer overall, less RNG except the obvious low drop rates |
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| 13:41.30 | ls- | oops :p |
| 13:41.43 | VIad | topkek |
| 13:44.15 | VIad | if you google topkek you find a turkish brand of cupcakes :p |
| 13:45.13 | Phixion | isnt that the origin of that meme anyway? |
| 13:47.14 | VIad | I just assumed top as in "top 10" or like "best" and kek/bur/lol :P |
| 13:47.36 | VIad | googled for fun, found topkek cupcakes, now I know! |
| 13:48.22 | VIad | I know lol is kek/bur but what is kek/bur on the other end? :p |
| 13:48.52 | VIad | need recusion to find out what the various inputs give when feeding the output back in, starting with lol |
| 13:51.14 | ls- | well, if you type kek in Russian, you'll get lul in Cyrillic :p |
| 13:52.11 | VIad | do you play on ru client? |
| 13:52.28 | ls- | nope |
| 13:52.47 | VIad | if I swap my locale to russian, I cant login my english realms :( |
| 13:53.03 | VIad | or was it, if I play on english locale, I cant login ru realms |
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| 13:53.23 | ls- | yeah, that's to avoid some issues w/ "reimport" :p |
| 13:53.38 | VIad | its kind of odd |
| 13:53.47 | VIad | we can play together with russians on eu realms |
| 13:53.53 | VIad | but cant make a character on russian realms |
| 13:53.59 | VIad | or russians on english realms :D |
| 13:54.25 | VIad | if I didn't have to redownload the game to trim the data files |
| 13:54.37 | VIad | I'd add all locales and have fun making hunters, their pets inherit the name of the pet in the locale :D |
| 13:54.50 | VIad | made my bank on my new realm using italian, so its called Lobo/Wolf now |
| 13:55.11 | VIad | korean, russian, and so on would be fun to have as pets :p |
| 13:55.24 | VIad | suspect the game not allowing me to though |
| 13:55.49 | ls- | my mage has Russian water elemental :p |
| 13:56.52 | VIad | :D |
| 13:57.26 | ls- | I transferred from EU to RU in WotLK, but then I transferred my mage back to EU in WoD, but elemental's name is still in Russian :p |
| 13:57.36 | Phixion | :) |
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| 13:58.20 | ls- | I even was kicked from BGs few times cuz of it, heh... |
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| 14:05.41 | ls- | nice name :D |
| 14:15.41 | ls- | wooow, w/ my current connection speed it's pretty much impossible to raid or even be around many people.... latency skyrockets T_T |
| 14:15.57 | ls- | gj, 3BB thailand :p |
| 14:16.24 | Phixion | :-( |
| 14:18.02 | ls- | guess I should try to find another ISP... T_T |
| 14:24.17 | Kalroth | country* |
| 14:25.16 | ls- | yeah, kinda :D |
| 14:25.26 | ls- | I should move elsewhere :p |
| 14:32.22 | VIad | mine is at 21/26 mbit/s |
| 14:32.28 | VIad | but I am paying for 50/50 |
| 14:32.34 | VIad | so go figure, loss of 25 :p |
| 14:32.52 | VIad | but I am not actually paying either because we had free for a year and its been 2 years now |
| 14:33.01 | VIad | and I keep getting free internet and tv so |
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| 14:33.37 | VIad | perhaps 25 is reserved for the tv |
| 14:33.39 | VIad | could be |
| 14:34.46 | VIad | or I hope they entered like 10 instead of 1 year on the promotion |
| 14:34.49 | VIad | I wouldnt mind :p |
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| 14:36.23 | VIad | hmm, could be it was 50/50 then 25/25 after the period |
| 14:36.48 | VIad | like 25/25 baseline paid in the monthly fee from before |
| 14:37.08 | VIad | cant be, says 100/100 on my account, hmm |
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| 14:38.42 | VIad | I can upgrade from 100/100 to 250/20 >_> |
| 14:38.47 | VIad | I actually value my upload |
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| 14:42.49 | VIad | feels like ls- wants to bite my head off, hearing me whine about 25/25 :P |
| 14:42.52 | haste | I have 1000/1000 at home now and I doubt I'll ever end up using it up :P |
| 14:43.24 | ls- | VIad: haste saved you :p |
| 14:43.34 | VIad | 250/20 costs like $60/$56 |
| 14:43.39 | VIad | â¬56 |
| 14:43.59 | VIad | norway where I live don't have 1000/1000 for private homes :p |
| 14:44.05 | VIad | most common in office areas tbh |
| 14:44.20 | VIad | my isp blocks port 80 so I am still grumpy about that |
| 14:44.44 | VIad | and they can't do anything about it, they said the setup where I live is just like that - knowing well its only because their routers we got have port 80 exposed to the extranet, like what |
| 14:45.03 | VIad | huaweii made routers |
| 14:45.13 | VIad | lets have port 80 open! |
| 14:45.50 | haste | my main computer is only on wireless as well, so it never gets more than 450mbits |
| 14:45.50 | haste | couldn't be arsed to put another cable for it |
| 14:45.51 | haste | we pay $48 :D |
| 14:46.04 | haste | you do know.. that I live in Norway VIad :P |
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| 14:46.28 | haste | and have 1000/1000 at home |
| 14:46.56 | VIad | maybe you live nearby the ISP HQ or ISP already supplies the high speeds to nearby offices or buildings |
| 14:47.12 | VIad | I live in a regular appartment area east oslo |
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| 14:48.25 | VIad | we had canaldigital before and we got 20/40 for 499,- then we had different ISPs making offers to the housing association and Get won with their deal |
| 14:48.27 | p3lim | gjøvik, 50/50 for free :] |
| 14:48.46 | VIad | on paper mine is 100/100 "free" part of housing association :p |
| 14:48.52 | p3lim | ;) |
| 14:49.00 | ls- | å为... I always giggle when I hear/read this name Huawei T_T |
| 14:49.04 | VIad | but 25/25 atm in reality, still good enough for my use ^^ |
| 14:49.27 | p3lim | I currently live with 6 other people, so I never get to see that 50/50 :p |
| 14:49.32 | VIad | my friend living near askim has like ls- internet lol :P |
| 14:49.33 | haste | VIad: I also live in east oslo |
| 14:49.38 | haste | in Gamle Byen :) |
| 14:49.45 | VIad | I'm at manglerud |
| 14:49.48 | ls- | :D |
| 14:49.50 | VIad | :d |
| 14:50.26 | haste | Lynet is providing the fiber to the apartment complex and offer up to 1gbit/1gbit to everyone |
| 14:50.30 | ls- | yesterday I had 100/50, k? today I have 2/0.5 :D |
| 14:50.36 | haste | you can also use canal digital, if you're so inclined |
| 14:50.51 | VIad | sadly Lynet dont deliver to us, Get probably won that bidding round |
| 14:51.05 | haste | We hooked Lynet up with the deal |
| 14:51.09 | VIad | :D |
| 14:51.12 | haste | for the three buildings |
| 14:51.34 | haste | they did it at no cost, since ICE.net already had a fiber bomb in one of the buildings |
| 14:51.37 | haste | owned by broadnet |
| 14:51.42 | VIad | Get built the infrastructure for fiber, I recall for a quite cheapish price for the borettslag (hate the english word) |
| 14:52.06 | VIad | next time maybe we can swap Get with Lynet or others, if they can use the already built in infrastructure... |
| 14:52.14 | VIad | old was coax only, canaldigital for you |
| 14:52.36 | haste | we had to do two things to get fiber |
| 14:52.36 | VIad | they didnt wanna swap it out nor offer cheaper internet, they demanded high price for internet from the 2005s |
| 14:52.47 | haste | the first was to revamp the door phone system |
| 14:52.59 | haste | so it didn't take up a the ethernet ports |
| 14:53.10 | haste | next was to get a fiber to the building, which it already had |
| 14:53.47 | haste | I guess I can never move now :P |
| 14:53.52 | haste | until fiber is common in Oslo |
| 14:53.59 | VIad | manglerud borettslag is like, a lot of buildings |
| 14:54.10 | VIad | and Get had to install fiber and everything in every one of them |
| 14:54.29 | VIad | just counting in my head, at least 12-14 buildings |
| 14:54.39 | haste | Dataguard did the initial setup here |
| 14:54.41 | haste | but they're shit |
| 14:54.58 | haste | and only provide 100mbit, because their equipment is from 2007 |
| 14:55.01 | VIad | :( |
| 14:55.23 | VIad | Get at least tries to inovate with modern speeds |
| 14:55.36 | VIad | though nothing beats Google, at least better than canaldigital |
| 14:55.41 | VIad | canaldigital is like a dinosaur |
| 14:55.46 | VIad | gonna be blockbuster real soon |
| 14:56.06 | haste | they cover so much of Oslo tho' |
| 14:56.08 | haste | with ten year deals |
| 14:56.14 | VIad | they are slipping up slowly |
| 14:56.23 | VIad | with better fiber deals people prefer to go for |
| 14:56.40 | VIad | they demand 500,- month for a 50/50 line if you are lucky |
| 14:56.53 | VIad | back when we had them, that was kind of their deal :p |
| 14:57.18 | VIad | if they wanna have all the customers, why not start fiber? |
| 14:57.19 | haste | I think we paid 899,- for 100/100 while waiting for Lynet to do their stuff |
| 14:57.43 | haste | We're four people living together, so not a big deal |
| 14:57.45 | VIad | telenor is pretty good on phone stuff, canaldigital is like their company too |
| 14:58.02 | VIad | but canaldigital hasnt updated their homepage nor infrastructure in 10 years :P |
| 14:58.17 | VIad | still demanding insane prices |
| 14:58.40 | VIad | I am confident if they dont change, they will lose |
| 14:58.45 | VIad | as you said, 10 year deals |
| 14:58.52 | VIad | they dont seem to be doing much meanwhile |
| 14:58.55 | haste | yeah, as soon as the deals run out, people switch |
| 14:59.03 | VIad | our time was a couple of years ago |
| 14:59.14 | VIad | each year more and more probably swap them out for cheaper and better alternatives |
| 14:59.26 | VIad | not hard considering 1000,- for 100/100 line :P |
| 14:59.29 | p3lim | NTE in trondheim is pretty awesome |
| 14:59.36 | ls- | wooooow... it actually takes loooooooong time to upload 800kb archive on curse now :D fml.... |
| 14:59.55 | VIad | ls-: welcome to the era where turning off irc saves bandwidth and 5 min upload time |
| 14:59.56 | ls- | f 0.5Mb/s upload... |
| 15:00.21 | haste | p3lim: seems they're just using the altibox package, meh |
| 15:00.36 | p3lim | altibox for tv |
| 15:00.40 | p3lim | their broadband is their own thing |
| 15:00.51 | p3lim | fiber only |
| 15:00.56 | haste | how's their pairing? |
| 15:01.03 | p3lim | competative |
| 15:01.05 | p3lim | but not the best |
| 15:01.15 | haste | so shit outside of Norway? :D |
| 15:01.16 | p3lim | although they are rock solid in terms of stability |
| 15:01.36 | VIad | I dont watch TV sadly so dont really consider that when wanting internet :( |
| 15:01.51 | p3lim | and they offer static IPs which is always a plus |
| 15:01.57 | VIad | wtb that |
| 15:02.00 | ls- | watching TV in 2017, lul |
| 15:02.00 | VIad | port blocking? |
| 15:02.24 | haste | Just use IPv6 :P |
| 15:02.33 | p3lim | 1000/1000 is 1500 nok tho' :p |
| 15:02.37 | VIad | Get.no dont have ipv6 |
| 15:02.41 | VIad | canaldigital had, thats weird :p |
| 15:03.23 | p3lim | haste: if you get 1000/1000 for $48 I'm moving to wherever you are :p |
| 15:04.23 | ls- | damn.. I want 1k/1k too T_T |
| 15:04.41 | haste | p3lim: Alnagata 14/16/18, 0192 Oslo :P |
| 15:04.48 | p3lim | :D |
| 15:04.55 | p3lim | who's your provider? |
| 15:04.58 | haste | Lynet |
| 15:05.11 | p3lim | they don't even offer 1k/1k on their site tho |
| 15:05.27 | haste | they have different offers for borettslag |
| 15:05.33 | p3lim | ah right |
| 15:06.12 | p3lim | ... how the hell do they get around modems as endnodes :s |
| 15:06.55 | haste | proper switches |
| 15:07.03 | haste | and networking for that matter |
| 15:07.20 | haste | everything is managed from a rack in each building |
| 15:07.28 | VIad | borettslag get nicer offers, since its bulk customers |
| 15:07.33 | p3lim | I can understand that would work in borettslag |
| 15:07.58 | haste | they can do the same from terminals as well |
| 15:08.04 | p3lim | but they'd have to have distribution racks everywhere |
| 15:08.17 | p3lim | hrm |
| 15:08.52 | haste | they can probably do it even closer to home as well |
| 15:09.04 | haste | I don't know much about the fiber infrastructure in Norway outside of buildings :P |
| 15:09.11 | p3lim | oh, I have friends living just down your street :] |
| 15:09.15 | p3lim | @ mosseveien |
| 15:09.55 | haste | used to live even closer to that |
| 15:10.06 | haste | move last year, but only 350m or so :P |
| 15:10.32 | VIad | tbh there are no server racks or anything in our building, unsure where the actual hardware is lol |
| 15:10.39 | VIad | couldn't find anything in the basement area :p |
| 15:10.58 | VIad | guessing it goes into one of the buildings in the area, but not ours :/ |
| 15:10.59 | p3lim | at my moms place they have a rack in the parking garage in one of the complexes nearby |
| 15:11.03 | p3lim | they still use modems though |
| 15:11.08 | VIad | yes |
| 15:11.10 | VIad | we have a modem too |
| 15:11.18 | p3lim | she's got canaldigital |
| 15:11.20 | VIad | so its not just an ethernet plug in the house |
| 15:11.40 | p3lim | every few days I get a message from my server in her basement telling me the internet went down :p |
| 15:11.41 | VIad | Get fiber using modem in the appartment to decode the signal from the port. own fiber port connection |
| 15:11.47 | VIad | lol |
| 15:12.06 | p3lim | (my off-site backup) |
| 15:12.20 | VIad | private enterprise? |
| 15:12.45 | VIad | or like personal backup :D |
| 15:12.50 | VIad | of code and stuff |
| 15:12.51 | p3lim | personal |
| 15:13.01 | p3lim | for my entire family pretty much |
| 15:13.22 | VIad | in my entire family I am the only person that would benefit such thing, and everyone else is on USB mentality |
| 15:13.40 | p3lim | I've set up my moms laptop to auto-backup |
| 15:13.47 | p3lim | she doesn't know what any of it means though |
| 15:14.06 | p3lim | but she likes to take photos so I want to make sure she has a backup of everything |
| 15:14.27 | VIad | :D |
| 15:14.44 | VIad | I'd just be lazy tbh and make my mom use google and have it backup it automatically |
| 15:15.10 | VIad | but it is kind of fun to hhave your own setup |
| 15:15.25 | p3lim | kind of funny, she still doesn't understand that the monitor is not the computer, and I'm currently pursuing a bacherlor in IT |
| 15:15.48 | VIad | the computer is behind the monitor |
| 15:15.56 | VIad | its the lump it stands on |
| 15:16.20 | VIad | https://fossbytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Microsoft-surface-studio-desktop-pc.jpg |
| 15:16.22 | p3lim | to be fair, her current setup consists of a tiny box mounted to the vesa mount behind the monitor |
| 15:16.23 | VIad | :P |
| 15:16.24 | p3lim | but still |
| 15:16.54 | p3lim | she needs to save photos, access facebook and her bank, and that's the extent of it |
| 15:17.09 | p3lim | a NUC is more than enough for her use |
| 15:17.25 | VIad | oh yes |
| 15:17.41 | VIad | tbh it is like a PC you can carry :P |
| 15:17.44 | VIad | carryable desktop |
| 15:17.52 | p3lim | sure |
| 15:18.14 | VIad | laptops are large and usually not that quick |
| 15:18.21 | p3lim | depends |
| 15:18.31 | mitch0 | not that quick? |
| 15:18.58 | VIad | a nuc isnt that expensive, but you need to buy some components and I think it can ultimately be quicker than a laptop, if you want it portable but dont need it while on the go |
| 15:19.14 | VIad | my mom uses her laptop like a stationary pc |
| 15:19.19 | VIad | meaning battery is ruined :P |
| 15:19.25 | VIad | holds charge like 5 min |
| 15:19.28 | VIad | every single laptop |
| 15:19.36 | Shockah|Work | my sister does the same |
| 15:19.52 | Shockah|Work | poor laptops |
| 15:19.59 | VIad | she only moves from one room to the other sometimes, but most cases it is used like a desktop that you can move around :P |
| 15:20.04 | Shockah|Work | at least she knows it's bad and sometimes pulls the battery out |
| 15:20.13 | mitch0 | me too. I can't be arsed to give a damn about the battery... the firmware / OS should handle it without my intervention |
| 15:20.21 | p3lim | my sister has her laptop sitting on the bed at all times |
| 15:20.29 | Shockah|Work | ^ |
| 15:20.31 | p3lim | poor thing is overheated 100% of the time |
| 15:20.34 | Shockah|Work | ^^ |
| 15:20.36 | VIad | then she complains that I am not helping her find a new battery to a obscolete laptop |
| 15:20.56 | mitch0 | next time get replacement batteries while the laptop is new ;) |
| 15:21.03 | VIad | finding compatible battery is aids |
| 15:21.11 | p3lim | I keep telling her to get a laptop that is passively cooled |
| 15:21.19 | VIad | do those exist yet? |
| 15:21.24 | p3lim | sure they do |
| 15:21.25 | VIad | like for parents |
| 15:21.31 | VIad | not 20k computers :D |
| 15:21.35 | p3lim | yes |
| 15:21.39 | VIad | hmm |
| 15:21.44 | p3lim | 10-15k tho' :p |
| 15:21.51 | VIad | :p |
| 15:21.58 | VIad | my mom wants to pay like max 1k if possible |
| 15:22.01 | VIad | but you cant so |
| 15:22.03 | p3lim | and not that powerful |
| 15:22.24 | p3lim | my dad is the complete opposite though, he wants to pay as much as possible |
| 15:22.33 | p3lim | because he thinks that means the machine is good |
| 15:22.41 | p3lim | (he owns an iMac) |
| 15:23.02 | Andols | Ok.. What is borettslag. |
| 15:23.09 | p3lim | community |
| 15:23.21 | p3lim | or close neighbourhood |
| 15:23.28 | VIad | borettslag is like a coorporation |
| 15:23.30 | p3lim | typically one or a few buildings next to eachother |
| 15:23.45 | VIad | the idea is buildings work together to get better deals |
| 15:23.50 | VIad | electricity, water, and so on |
| 15:23.55 | VIad | infrastructure for the appartments |
| 15:24.21 | VIad | wiki uses "housing cooperatives" |
| 15:24.33 | Andols | I see, in Swedish that would be bostadsförening |
| 15:24.36 | VIad | yes |
| 15:24.39 | VIad | its a type of company |
| 15:24.49 | p3lim | Andols: exact same thing |
| 15:25.02 | VIad | just dont try to explain that to someone from the USA |
| 15:25.06 | p3lim | :p |
| 15:25.12 | VIad | just link wiki and let them read |
| 15:25.13 | p3lim | services are also a nice thing they usually have |
| 15:25.50 | VIad | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borettslag the english article is like bare minimum |
| 15:26.16 | VIad | the wiki tag is even the norwegian word, so I guess there is no real english translation for it |
| 15:27.01 | VIad | to be fair I think these articles are written by norwegians and made to explain what these things are to non-norwegians |
| 15:27.18 | VIad | every article starts with "X is a type of company in Norway" :P |
| 15:27.42 | VIad | and tries to compare it to well known international company types and has ", but..." appended behind |
| 15:27.58 | VIad | oh crap late for my other work :< bb |
| 15:28.13 | VIad | crime never rests |
| 15:28.17 | Andols | If I go from English -> Norwegian -> Swedish -> English it changes to another article |
| 15:28.18 | mckenziemc | VIad is a type of noise in Norway |
| 15:28.50 | ls- | :D |
| 15:29.15 | VIad | its when you open your street facing window and hear some drunktard screaming, thats me |
| 15:29.40 | ls- | lol |
| 15:29.42 | Andols | Did you visit Sweden this weekend? |
| 15:30.22 | Andols | If not you aren't the only one screaming drunk :p |
| 15:32.47 | p3lim | probably related |
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| 17:11.51 | p3lim | VIad: https://www.komplett.no/search?q=spectre+x360 |
| 17:12.11 | p3lim | example of a decent passively cooled laptop |
| 17:12.28 | p3lim | ohshit nvm it wasn't that one :p |
| 17:13.29 | p3lim | maybe it was the XPS, hm |
| 17:14.07 | _Kee | Finally got item for 50 gold from WQ yay! |
| 17:15.27 | _Kee | http://www.wowdb.com/items/139812-potion-of-triton <3 |
| 17:43.54 | ls- | I have many of those on my DK and DH. Can't use any though, my guys are farming missions T_T |
| 18:06.17 | TheDanW | Semlar: no idea |
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| 18:06.49 | Semlar | TheDanW: it turns out it's not all of them anyway |
| 18:07.00 | Semlar | i was LIED to |
| 18:08.14 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: any idea why UnitGetTotalAbsorbs("player") always returns 20 for tank monks |
| 18:08.25 | Stanzilla | when sitting in town |
| 18:12.28 | TheDanW | Stanzilla: i think its a bug with stagger, it should probably be ignored by the UI |
| 18:12.43 | Stanzilla | that was my guess as well |
| 18:12.55 | TheDanW | ls-: i fixed the boss mapping for 7.2 |
| 18:13.16 | Semlar | TheDanW: what kind of car should i get, i need a new one |
| 18:13.34 | TheDanW | Stanzilla: looks like it should be a % but the UI doesn't display absorb percents, so it gets confused |
| 18:14.07 | TheDanW | Semlar: tesla model s, i'll test drive it for a few years for you |
| 18:14.19 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: I feel like stagger should not be part of that api then |
| 18:14.35 | Semlar | okay i was thinking something more in the $10k range |
| 18:14.52 | TheDanW | Stanzilla: yeah it should be flagged for exclusion |
| 18:15.03 | Stanzilla | :thumbs_up: |
| 18:16.06 | TheDanW | Stanzilla: should be fixed for next ptr |
| 18:16.31 | TheDanW | or maybe one after, not sure what the build status is |
| 18:21.14 | foxlit | TheDanW: could you add a InterfaceAddOnsList_Update() to the end of the else branch in InterfaceOptions_AddCategory ? |
| 18:23.44 | TheDanW | foxlit: probably, let me look |
| 18:25.43 | foxlit | hm, there are a few early returns as well; it's essentially this: https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/5.3.0/InterfaceOptionsFrame.lua/diff |
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| 18:26.53 | foxlit | The actual issue is that InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory fails to open the desired category unless a button for that category is currently visible in the list. |
| 18:28.06 | TheDanW | i see |
| 18:28.22 | VIad | _Kee: I've done like 2500 WQ and that's 125k gold missed out, not THAT bad but :p |
| 18:29.51 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: thanks, as always! |
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| 18:30.21 | TheDanW | foxlit: i'll have it for for 7.2 |
| 18:30.44 | Fisker | For for indeed |
| 18:32.52 | Gnarfoz | ls-: I might. but I don't recall getting a screen-high stack of toasts when looting my mailbox before :O |
| 18:34.36 | harl | fiskers fisker with some fisker fiskers while fisker fiskers fisker fisker's fisker-fiskers |
| 18:34.59 | harl | over and out. |
| 18:35.11 | TheDanW | have it fixed for 7.2 ;p |
| 18:35.14 | Fisker | Rude |
| 18:35.40 | Fisker | :P |
| 18:35.49 | Alram | unrelated question, but has anyone had the problem where random default UI buttons break because of some unrelated addon? |
| 18:37.01 | Stanzilla | welcome to taint |
| 18:37.22 | foxlit | it's not really an /unrelated/ addon. It did something. |
| 18:37.37 | foxlit | Possibly something very indirect, but nevertheless. |
| 18:37.37 | Alram | hmmph |
| 18:38.44 | foxlit | If it happens with any degree of consistency, you might be able to get someone to fix it. |
| 18:38.52 | harl | taint is a bitch |
| 18:39.43 | Alram | seems to be already solved for the 7.2 version of the addon that was mentioned in the error |
| 18:39.53 | Alram | now i know what to google next time, thanks! |
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| 18:44.50 | kd3 | ooh, the 2nd gits trailer is out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRkb1X9ovI4 |
| 18:45.56 | Fisker | I want a git trailer |
| 18:51.17 | _Kee | Vlad: I've done over 2400 WQ with 25+15 gold, now will have 50+25, it's +87.5% WQ bonus gold income :p |
| 18:55.26 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMGBvcGBZL8 |
| 19:00.07 | foxlit | Since 7.1.5, GetSpellInfo("Incarnation: Guardian of Ursoc") seems to return stuff even when that talent is inactive. |
| 19:00.37 | foxlit | Activating and deactivating the talent fixes it temporarily, but it returns after a client restart. |
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| 19:07.37 | foxlit | (kind of relying on GetSpellInfo to figure out whether /cast X will actually do anything, and this is being misleading) |
| 19:09.11 | znf | The traffic lights in my city are displaying a red heart instead of the normal red circle |
| 19:10.15 | Semlar | <3 |
| 19:10.53 | foxlit | trying to lull you into a false sense of security before the automaton uprising. |
| 19:11.44 | Ketho | TheDanW: can you bring up GetGuildBankIconInfo for 7.2? so I can add a search box to the guild bank icon picker https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9e2ce0de931eb2a52aacb3e5aff3d03c |
| 19:11.46 | Semlar | like a companion cube |
| 19:15.37 | TheDanW | Ketho: could you not prehook the update function and replace the table with proxy metatable that returns the data you want? |
| 19:15.57 | znf | I wasn't aware they could so that remotely |
| 19:16.19 | Semlar | they might have someone go around and do it manually |
| 19:16.27 | foxlit | no; the table is a local upvalue rather than returned. |
| 19:16.41 | foxlit | you could securehook the Get*Icons functions and steal it from their arguments, but meh. |
| 19:17.03 | TheDanW | i see, i didn't look at the actual file |
| 19:17.17 | TheDanW | if that table was global would it be sufficient? |
| 19:18.01 | foxlit | not Ketho, but it probably would be. |
| 19:19.36 | Ketho | yes, it would be sufficient. but much easier for me if it was a function instead of global https://github.com/Ketho/LargerMacroIconSelection/blob/master/LargerMacroIconSelection.lua#L351-L360 |
| 19:20.15 | TheDanW | understandable, i'd rather minimize the changes to the guild bank code on our end though |
| 19:20.54 | Ketho | I |
| 19:20.58 | Ketho | I'll take it |
| 19:21.02 | TheDanW | k done |
| 19:21.35 | foxlit | in tangentially related things, I still kind of want GetFileIDFromTexturePath("path") |
| 19:22.54 | foxlit | (e.g. GetFileIDFromTexturePath("Interface/Icons/INV_Leystone") == 1394960) |
| 19:28.20 | TheDanW | i'll add it to the list, can probably get to it |
| 19:31.51 | foxlit | awesome. |
| 19:32.00 | Stanzilla | that's his middle name |
| 19:32.05 | Stanzilla | TheDan awesome W |
| 19:34.45 | mckenziemc | StanzillaW the Awful |
| 19:35.55 | Stanzilla | :( |
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| 19:52.05 | Thunder_Child | Semlar: 2001 Porsche Boxster. |
| 19:53.46 | Semlar | how about a jeep wrangler |
| 19:54.14 | Thunder_Child | I hate slow drivers. |
| 19:55.08 | Unkle | You live in Los Angeles, just mount an .30 caliber machine-gun on the hood. No one will ever drive slowly in front of you again. |
| 19:59.08 | Thunder_Child | In LA, people shoot back. |
| 19:59.16 | Thunder_Child | Then I would just get broadsided. |
| 20:01.35 | Thunder_Child | Although the Browning M1919 does appear to have a low recoil. |
| 20:05.19 | Unkle | That's why you reinforce the roll-cage, add ablative/reactive armor to your side panels, and hire a guy to play rock guitar on the roof. |
| 20:05.43 | Unkle | Give me a flame thrower. You can't hog all the fun. |
| 20:06.03 | Unkle | s/me/him |
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| 20:11.31 | Thunder_Child | Congratulations, you now made a semi-ripoff of a bad ass vehicle to get other vehicles out of my way so I can go JUST AS SLOW AS IF I WAS SITTING IN TRAFFIC. |
| 20:18.17 | Unkle | BUT - it'll be so much more FUN! |
| 20:19.11 | Thunder_Child | Subjective. I'm fairly sure I would find driving fast more fun in the long run. |
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| 20:43.52 | mckenziemc | http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/damaged-dam_2_2.jpg?w=810 sorry for any iikouism |
| 20:44.43 | Thunder_Child | I'm guessing that's supposed to be inconvenience? |
| 20:46.07 | mckenziemc | more likely insanity |
| 20:55.04 | [TOM_RUS] | when is curse packager gonna be fixed? it's been broken for a while |
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| 21:15.01 | Gnarfoz | could you be more precise? |
| 21:21.33 | Ressy | MysticalOS was complaining of the packager to me last night, but I pushed multiple builds last night, and it shows it packaged fine. |
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| 21:35.40 | Calacutie | Hi ! |
| 21:36.13 | Thunder_Child | Hello. |
| 21:37.12 | Calacutie | I'm looking for someone who can possibly help me about my addon (based on scripts pasted on a lua file for auto run). Got an error yesterday (the interface blocked my action because of this addon). |
| 21:37.56 | kd3 | paste the addon (at a site like pastebin, don't paste it in chat) |
| 21:37.59 | kd3 | ? |
| 21:38.33 | Thunder_Child | kd3: Make sure you catch the next launch, it would seem they are trying to seed clouds with it. |
| 21:38.53 | kd3 | the spacex launch? |
| 21:38.59 | Thunder_Child | Nasa. |
| 21:39.19 | Thunder_Child | Some time in the next moth iirc. |
| 21:39.22 | Thunder_Child | month* |
| 21:39.23 | kd3 | what's nasa launching? I know spacex is firing from 39A this weekend |
| 21:39.25 | kd3 | hm, k |
| 21:39.47 | Calacutie | http://pastebin.com/uKiJ64K1 |
| 21:39.53 | Thunder_Child | kd3: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/auroral-sounding-rocket-to-display-artificial-clouds-in-space |
| 21:40.24 | Calacutie | So, when i click manually on myself, set focus, error. Sometimes, right click on a buff, error too. |
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| 21:44.44 | foxlit | Calacutie: delete all the Blah.SetPoint = function() end lines and check if it continues to cause issues. |
| 21:48.55 | Calacutie | I've done it just right now, by deleting all end lines function(). |
| 21:49.14 | Calacutie | And now, Player Frame and Target frame arnt at the right plates. |
| 21:49.22 | Calacutie | But no more issues. |
| 21:51.52 | Calacutie | places *. Wanna apologise about my approximative english. |
| 21:54.17 | Calacutie | (Only the focus frame is at the right places i've put). |
| 22:05.22 | Calacutie | So the focus frame, focus spell bar, tooltip are alright, but not player frame and target frame. |
| 22:09.15 | Calacutie | Just added the PlayerFrame.SetPoint = function() end again for the PlayerFrame. Result : At the right place, but got error when right click on myself, set focus. |
| 22:15.48 | Calacutie | Someone got an idea of what is possibly happening ? |
| 22:21.22 | Semlar | you're removing the UI's ability to move the frames |
| 22:22.00 | Semlar | since they're protected, when the UI tries to move them in combat and fails, it prevents them from doing anything that requires a secure environment |
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| 22:23.57 | Semlar | like targeting or canceling buffs |
| 22:27.20 | Semlar | you can possibly move them and just call frame:SetUserPlaced(true) to keep them from being moved |
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| 22:46.23 | Calacutie | Semlar So if i put this line one time, this prevent for any error ? |
| 22:49.03 | Calacutie | And so, why the focus frame dont move when i remove the lines, and the player and target move. |
| 22:50.21 | Semlar | i'm going to guess that something is calling SetPoint on those frames that are moving |
| 22:54.51 | Semlar | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/UIParent.lua#1914 |
| 22:54.55 | Calacutie | The error only happening when i try to put myself in focus, never the target. And some buffs, some not. It makes non sense to me. |
| 22:55.58 | Calacutie | If i copy these lines and replace the value, should be ok ? |
| 22:56.06 | Semlar | no |
| 22:56.35 | Semlar | just call frame:SetUserPlaced(true) on the frames you want to move |
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| 23:03.42 | Calacutie | God damn it, this is working. |
| 23:03.48 | Calacutie | Thank you so much. |
| 23:03.58 | Semlar | sure |
| 23:05.22 | kullervo | beware taking advice from him, your addon will be in beta forever |
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| 23:07.50 | Calacutie | Thats what i just see. |
| 23:08.02 | Calacutie | Now MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint("CENTER", 0, 60) line is not working anymore. |
| 23:08.12 | Calacutie | But the right, yes. |
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| 23:11.12 | Calacutie | I've reupload it if you wanna take a look. http://pastebin.com/rYKvQyxH |
| 23:14.11 | Calacutie | Will see that tomorrow, its late. Thanks for your helping to my eternal beta future addon. |
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| 23:47.59 | foxlit | meh, tri-state checkboxes. |
| 23:48.21 | foxlit | (on, off, inherit from parent); this seems like a terrible idea. |
| 23:50.06 | foxlit | and yet the only replacement that comes to mind is a dropdown, which is also not that great. |
| 23:59.04 | Thunder_Child | Could be worse, you could have a checkbox decision tree. |
