| 00:04.19 | Ketho | LexSfX do you know if ffxDeath was added back in 7.1 or 7.1.5? |
| 00:04.36 | LexSfX | Ketho: 7.1.5 |
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| 00:07.05 | Ketho | thanks, updated wowpedia |
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| 00:11.27 | LexSfX | Ketho: nice job :) |
| 00:24.13 | kd3|hate`net | <3 |
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| 00:58.42 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/fewyn/status/820791937489924097 since i linked the beginning here's the end of my pork ramen adventure today |
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| 01:08.35 | tz | weird, ignore in pkgmeta is applied after move-folders |
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| 02:04.58 | karl_w_w | I think thesaurus.com is drunk |
| 02:05.22 | karl_w_w | I search for hero and it thinks I want synonyms for a sub sandwich |
| 02:05.32 | mckenziemc | surely you mean inebriated |
| 02:11.09 | Thunder_Child | ~lart mckenziemc |
| 02:11.09 | purl | shoots mckenziemc in his sleep |
| 02:17.10 | Stanzilla | Ketho: http://wow.gamepedia.com/CVar_ffxDeath might wanna change the text, too |
| 02:17.56 | Seerah | karl_w_w: did you scroll down? ;) |
| 02:18.04 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 02:18.30 | karl_w_w | but why would the sandwich be the first result? :P |
| 02:18.36 | Seerah | true, true |
| 02:19.09 | Thunder_Child | Because more people look that up? |
| 02:19.24 | Seerah | lol |
| 02:19.26 | Ketho | Stanzilla: uhh I don't know what should be changed about the text :s |
| 02:20.08 | Stanzilla | Ketho: oh it says the box, I cant read |
| 02:20.10 | Stanzilla | nvm then |
| 02:20.42 | karl_w_w | I mean, I doubt people are looking for synonyms for their sandwich, but then I guess most people don't need an alternative word to primary definition of hero |
| 02:21.00 | karl_w_w | the* |
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| 02:40.11 | Semlar | alright, taking guesses on what the cvar "cloakFixEnabled" affects |
| 02:40.44 | foxlit | cloaks? |
| 02:41.02 | Semlar | it defaults to 1 |
| 02:41.05 | foxlit | some part of their material collision logic with stuff. |
| 02:41.27 | Semlar | my level 2 doesn't have a cloak |
| 02:44.03 | Semlar | flightanglelookahead Enables more dynamic attitude adjustments while flying |
| 02:44.42 | Semlar | oh no |
| 02:44.45 | Semlar | they removed gameobjforcemouseover |
| 02:44.51 | Semlar | my favorite cvar! |
| 02:47.43 | Semlar | hey they added a cvar to actually keep your personal resource nameplate on screen at all times |
| 02:48.57 | kullervo | what, you mean the thing everyone wants to hide? |
| 02:49.29 | Semlar | hiding it is easy, you just uncheck the box |
| 02:50.06 | Semlar | way back on the beta i wanted it showing at all times so i could attach to it because it isn't in a static position |
| 02:50.27 | Semlar | it draws under your character's feet |
| 02:52.25 | Semlar | i'm sure they added some of these a long time ago |
| 02:57.08 | mckenziemc | do they have a cvar disableSemlar? |
| 02:59.01 | Thunder_Child | They got rid of it, they could never get it to work. |
| 02:59.50 | mckenziemc | breaks Semlar's legs. |
| 03:04.33 | Semlar | well i broke my game |
| 03:05.21 | Semlar | i was trying to figure out what the "warp" and "warpviewtilt" cvars did and now i can't see half my screen |
| 03:05.42 | Semlar | after i reset them back to their defaults |
| 03:07.08 | Semlar | alright, restarting the game fixed it |
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| 04:24.15 | mckenziemc | demands Fisker die in the Master's fire and hugs Cairenn. |
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| 09:24.32 | VIad | Semlar: how are you feeling about the hunter changes? |
| 09:25.53 | Semlar | i stopped playing when they were on the ptr |
| 09:27.42 | VIad | because of the changes or other reasons? |
| 09:28.03 | VIad | since it sounded like it could be because of the changes :p |
| 09:33.28 | VIad | I miss your hunter, Semlar :( |
| 09:33.38 | Semlar | how could you possibly miss my hunter |
| 09:35.17 | Semlar | the changes happened after i stopped playing so i don't know or particularly care what they did |
| 09:38.24 | VIad | why the anger, Semlar? :( |
| 09:39.27 | VIad | game got boring without a guild to play with? |
| 09:41.11 | LexSfX | i miss stings applied with cobra shot |
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| 10:08.28 | VIad | I remember when multishot applied sting, oh the deeps :d since dots arent aoe capped/diminishing returns |
| 10:08.49 | VIad | same reason bloodboil applied dots and their ticks dealt full damage on each target, while bloodboil itself was aoe capped to like 20 or 40 units |
| 10:09.12 | Gnarfoz | when the last bit of scrollback from before going to bed is still on screen when I get into the office... zzzzzzZzz yawn |
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| 10:10.35 | VIad | hehe |
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| 10:20.16 | Gnarfoz | hmmm, regarding fan control on my 1070... http://i.imgur.com/Ic5qOmw.png those are the release notes for the latest vbios (which my card already came with) |
| 10:20.25 | Gnarfoz | I guess "change" includes "break" |
| 10:20.48 | VIad | hmm I havent considered this tbh |
| 10:20.59 | VIad | thought the nvidia drivers was enough to update the whole dal |
| 10:21.00 | VIad | deal* |
| 10:21.07 | Gnarfoz | and I got my memory to run at 3066, at least... even though it's 3200, but I guess since that's out of spec for the CPU's memory controller, it's not guaranteed anyway |
| 10:21.19 | Gnarfoz | vbios is not included in the drivers, no |
| 10:21.25 | Gnarfoz | but you rarely have reason to touch it anyway |
| 10:21.29 | VIad | yeah |
| 10:21.39 | VIad | never really updated that ever on any of my cards |
| 10:21.47 | VIad | only done bios update on my motherboard :p |
| 10:21.57 | Gnarfoz | most cards probably get released and become obsolete without ever seeing a vbios update published |
| 10:22.46 | Gnarfoz | (speaking of "break" being included in "change"... I should flip that switch on my mobo and see if the RAM runs at 3200 with the old bios version) |
| 10:23.23 | Gnarfoz | hm, they went straight from bios 3.40 to 7.00. they're learning from Chrome and Firefox. :P |
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| 10:30.21 | VIad | yeah lets make every month bump the major version by 1 :p |
| 10:31.12 | VIad | my ram is 2800 mhz |
| 10:31.32 | VIad | but my board supports 3200 |
| 10:31.52 | VIad | performance wise I think its good enough but I dunno |
| 10:32.52 | VIad | I read a post on reddit, someone bought the new kaby lake series CPU |
| 10:32.58 | VIad | about wow performance |
| 10:33.31 | VIad | thing is based on some charts the cpu is more multi threaded, and when it comes to single core type tasks it performs a bit worse than the top end 5x series |
| 10:34.00 | VIad | when it comes to wow you should, if you really want max performance, like reserve two cores ONLY for wow and OC those as high as you can on your system :p |
| 10:34.07 | VIad | only thing I am unsure is what amount of cores is optimal |
| 10:34.24 | VIad | is 1 core enough if that core is for wow only? or should you do 2,3? |
| 10:35.00 | VIad | some cpu has one core marked by the manufacturer as optimized for ST and it appears with a "*" in the BIOS |
| 10:35.09 | VIad | you could use that for wow for more performance I guess |
| 10:35.37 | VIad | problem is I dont have such CPU and I just OC the CPU as a whole and it works fine, but if you want more power you need to do small tweaks like that |
| 10:36.02 | VIad | the thread was about if he should upgrade his 1070 FTW GPU to 1080 or upgrade his CPU I was like >_> |
| 10:36.27 | VIad | you can run 980ti or titan and your CPU will still be one of the major limiting factors to low fps imo |
| 10:36.51 | VIad | OC my CPU from 3.2 to 4 alone added 20 fps in dalaran, raised the average fps literally by that much |
| 10:36.53 | VIad | it's insane :p |
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| 10:40.05 | VIad | it's like when it comes to wow getting high fps isn't as easy as just upgrade CPU/GPU to something expensive = good fps |
| 10:43.28 | VIad | I'd really wish we could get more technical help based on how the engine is designed, in terms of how to OC properly for wow |
| 10:45.11 | VIad | better yet just utilizing the gpu more than the cpu would be amazing. 8 gb of gpu memory, I mean wow alone uses less than that, what about loading most of the things needed into the gpu and let it actually use its like 40 cores? ;d |
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| 10:46.13 | VIad | #Gnarfoz |
| 10:46.31 | Stanzilla | have you seen the version number of the facebook android app? |
| 10:48.10 | VIad | like 692.29.12.321234 build 2981 ? |
| 10:48.14 | VIad | just a guess |
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| 11:12.16 | Gnarfoz | 40? I doubt your GPU only has 40 cores |
| 11:12.31 | Gnarfoz | but... that's not the same as CPU cores, so that really isn't an option |
| 11:12.44 | Gnarfoz | they do use it just fine |
| 11:13.11 | Gnarfoz | it's just CPU bottlenecked still, and I doubt that'll ever change much |
| 11:13.46 | Gnarfoz | also, addons :P |
| 11:14.14 | Gnarfoz | I'd be far more interested in better addon profiling capabilities than straight engine upgrades |
| 11:14.36 | Gnarfoz | (or even the mythical decoupling of addons from the render path, but that's not gonna happen) |
| 11:20.24 | VIad | I mean't "nodes" or thats at least how it appears in taskman |
| 11:21.23 | VIad | playing the game and looking at the node load it's like 4 of 42 nodes are in use, so many available for tasking :( |
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| 11:27.04 | VIad | tbh it would be nice if the world rendering was moved entirely to the gpu |
| 11:27.29 | VIad | like disjoint loading of players so it didnt drop the framerate |
| 11:28.50 | VIad | something something core programming/framework I guess |
| 11:29.36 | Phixion | hey VIad |
| 11:29.39 | VIad | hi Phixion |
| 11:30.40 | Phixion | a wonderful start of the week is what I wish VIad |
| 11:30.59 | VIad | aw, thanks man. I hope you have a great week yourself! :) |
| 11:31.23 | Phixion | doesnt look like it, sitting at work |
| 11:32.53 | VIad | is it that bad? :( |
| 11:34.35 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZoaowsmnRY |
| 11:34.41 | karl_w_w | that's pretty good |
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| 12:49.57 | VIad | because the issue in office 365 affects 3rd party programs microsoft support is unable to assist me |
| 12:50.31 | VIad | issue is browser and cookies, and how addins for sharepoint use their own domain, so its a very central issue and unique to a very specific set of usecases and I am struggling finding where to report this |
| 12:51.04 | VIad | because it affects my company as our products are malfunctioning because of these changes. an update microsoft deployed last week. |
| 12:59.56 | VIad | you have multiple domains. the main "myname.sharepoint.com" and then each add-in gets its own "myname-hash.sharepoint.com" |
| 13:00.38 | VIad | each time you navigate to anything on either domain will result in a login server redirect that is invisible to the user, but that will invalidate either cookie depending on who was last to contact the login server >_> |
| 13:00.56 | VIad | it's like they changed the cookie sessions to override any sub-domains and invalidate their sessions |
| 13:01.30 | VIad | it works in IE if I edit the security rules to low security but it's not really a fix, only a temporary fix, nothing we can recommend people to actually have to do >_> |
| 13:01.43 | VIad | this is such nightmare - thanks for that Phixion, jinxing my week |
| 13:13.27 | Phixion | :( |
| 13:13.44 | Kalroth | l2p issue |
| 13:15.43 | VIad | kek |
| 13:16.10 | VIad | it's like as long you are active on one domain, it will validate cookies once via the login server and all is fine |
| 13:17.43 | VIad | alternating domains will invalidate the other domain >_> |
| 13:18.08 | VIad | sadly its out of reach, it's more to do with session handling in office 365, I can't fix that in the add-in |
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| 16:20.01 | znf | I've seen something interesting in overwatch |
| 16:20.07 | znf | Symmetra placing sentries on a basketball |
| 16:20.18 | znf | then moving the basketball with her |
| 16:40.59 | Phixion | VIad: kinda makes sense tho? |
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| 16:51.44 | mckenziemc | 2. A complex number: (d) is a concept reserved for elite mathematicians. |
| 16:53.01 | znf | I'm reading this thread on healthcare in US |
| 16:53.02 | znf | on reddit |
| 16:53.20 | znf | I can't fathom the idea of paying insurance, but you still get billed |
| 16:56.50 | foxlit | you're new to this insurance thing? deductables are everywhere. |
| 16:58.11 | znf | I'm "new" to the US system |
| 16:59.23 | Ressy | Single payer model is better. |
| 17:00.34 | znf | I don't understand those fancy terms |
| 17:00.50 | Ressy | Mkay.. So.. In the case of prescriptions... |
| 17:01.18 | Ressy | Here, the provinces negotiates a set price with the pharmaceutical companies. |
| 17:01.27 | Ressy | for the entire province. |
| 17:01.51 | znf | What I know and how it should be: you pay a monthly fee, you get "free" healthcare, regardless if you get sick or not |
| 17:01.53 | Ressy | Economies of scale - bigger purchases = lower price |
| 17:02.21 | Ressy | US, every individual hospital negotiates separately with pharmaceutical companies, which means smaller orders which means higher prices. |
| 17:02.48 | Ressy | We pay higher taxes, but when in hospital, everything is covered. |
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| 17:47.30 | Andols | Anyone in here that is from Austria? |
| 17:58.54 | mckenziemc | znf: do people in your country rely on pills and surgery to correct everything |
| 17:59.15 | znf | mckenziemc, define everything? |
| 17:59.20 | znf | and what do you mean by correct? |
| 17:59.27 | znf | I'm talking about the case of getting sick |
| 17:59.39 | mckenziemc | meant cure, so every ailment |
| 18:00.11 | znf | I do not understand the question |
| 18:00.43 | znf | ofc we rely on pills to cure a headache |
| 18:02.25 | znf | I'm not going to go to the emergency room if I have a headache :-/ |
| 18:02.35 | mckenziemc | i don't think headache medication makes up the bulk of US health costs |
| 18:03.51 | znf | What makes the bulk of the US health cost? |
| 18:04.33 | mckenziemc | well, most of it is on people who are likely to die soon anyway |
| 18:04.57 | mckenziemc | and then costs associated with chronic diseases would be next i suppose |
| 18:05.30 | znf | hey nevcairiel http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/793114-herebedragons/ |
| 18:10.43 | znf | ^ looks like TomTom |
| 18:11.09 | znf | or not |
| 18:11.43 | znf | or it does |
| 18:24.03 | Gnarfoz | noice, I disovered there *is* a second protective film on the back of a lamp I got for xmas... now it looks properly shiny https://geektour.de/~smallbrain/i_love_lamp.jpg |
| 18:26.20 | znf | How big is that? |
| 18:26.33 | znf | I found some of those on gearbest |
| 18:26.40 | znf | But I couldn't tell how big they were |
| 18:28.01 | Alram | unsure if lamp or spaceship |
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| 18:31.49 | znf | http://m.gearbest.com/movies-tv-dolls/pp_463346.html |
| 18:32.25 | Alram | ah |
| 18:32.26 | Alram | aircraft |
| 18:32.28 | Alram | that clears it up |
| 19:04.02 | Gnarfoz | znf: it's about 25 cm across the top from "10 forward" to end of nacelle |
| 19:05.13 | Gnarfoz | it's probably that one, at least it looks almost exactly like that |
| 19:08.56 | znf | Alram: it's from that star wars movie |
| 19:09.29 | znf | The one with the black guy with a metal symbol on his forehead |
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| 19:20.46 | salmon | What is the best way to do add-on development? I'm decently familiar with Lua/XML. Is the best way really writing code and then reloading the UI? |
| 19:21.20 | salmon | 7.1.5 is causing 5 minute reload/zone changes so development is brutal. |
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| 19:30.09 | Maldivia | 5 minute?? |
| 19:30.32 | Semlar | salmon: you should disable all of your addons and see how long it takes to reload |
| 19:31.42 | Semlar | if it took that long to load i'd be worried that my hard drive is failing |
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| 19:36.23 | salmon | @Semlar - I tried WTF/Cache/Interface removal and it made no difference. |
| 19:36.41 | salmon | My drive is otherwise fine. |
| 19:36.57 | salmon | It happened after the 7.1.5 drop. |
| 19:37.46 | salmon | Even before the long reload times editing and then reloading to see changes was pretty brutal. I only dabble in add ons though so I'm hoping some of you will have a better work flow figured out. |
| 19:38.09 | Semlar | well it takes me 5 seconds to reload |
| 19:38.56 | Semlar | if you're in a situation where you can't really afford to reload very often you're going to want to get something that lets you work with lua directly in game |
| 19:40.11 | Semlar | i'm assuming you don't have the game on a solid state drive, but even then the load times shouldn't be that high |
| 19:40.20 | salmon | It is on an ssd. |
| 19:40.54 | salmon | before 7.1.5 it was seconds to reload, it was annoying, but I could deal with it. |
| 19:41.15 | Semlar | are you sure you actually loaded the game without any addons |
| 19:41.42 | Semlar | this sounds like something is wrong with the installation |
| 19:41.46 | salmon | I have tried mocking out blizzard functions which works surprisingly well offline since they dump everything in global namespace, it's easy to override what I need to mock out for my tests. |
| 19:42.20 | salmon | I killed curse, nuked those directories, restarted to make sure everything was killed and made sure the directories were re-created. |
| 19:42.49 | salmon | I'm not really trying to debug the long load times as I think that's something on blizzard's end. |
| 19:43.09 | Semlar | it's not on blizzard's end or everyone would have this problem |
| 19:43.13 | salmon | i mean if I could fix it I totally would, but it's mostly just an annoyance for now. |
| 19:43.36 | salmon | Not everyone runs the same hardware/OS, it doesn't mean everyone would have it. |
| 19:44.04 | Semlar | yes, but that would mean it's a conflict with your setup |
| 19:45.06 | Semlar | there are settings that persist through what you did, but i don't know of anything that would cause a huge increase in load times |
| 19:46.01 | salmon | It's fine, I'm mostly just looking for ways to do development offline or in game I guess. |
| 19:47.15 | Semlar | even if you had a private server set up you'd be dealing with having to reload the game to test changes |
| 19:48.18 | Semlar | there are some things you could do with an editor in-game, but without reloading you can't reset the state of things |
| 19:48.25 | salmon | Not necessarily, I can access globals and such without reloading. I could call functions/emit events/etc. |
| 19:49.03 | salmon | I guess the thing I couldn't do is edit and then test. I'd have to author in game and run until I had what I wanted then copy/paste to the real source. |
| 19:50.13 | Semlar | you can't destroy a frame, so if you're running a whole block of code that creates frames and rerun it every time you want to change something you're going to keep creating new frames |
| 19:50.40 | MiRai | there's a huge sticky in the WoW technical forums on long loading screen issues, and Blizzard offered a workaround about a month ago - https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749718759?page=151#post-3014 |
| 19:50.56 | salmon | That work around does not work for me. |
| 19:51.34 | MiRai | well, then I'm not sure what to say, as I've not been affected by the loading screen issue myself |
| 19:51.35 | salmon | I'm not trying to debug my long load times. |
| 19:52.23 | foxlit | clearly you just write your whole addon without reloading, then reload once to verify that everything works, and then release that and never touch it again. |
| 19:52.24 | Semlar | well that's the root of your issue that you're seeking a workaround for, and the alternatives are suboptimal |
| 19:52.51 | Semlar | foxlit's got a good point, just do it right the first time |
| 19:53.11 | salmon | Alright never mind. |
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| 19:53.22 | Semlar | lol |
| 19:53.48 | Semlar | fine, just deal with your load times |
| 19:56.15 | Semlar | i was going to upload a copy of AIO with all of the cvars in it that would let him reset everything properly |
| 19:57.01 | Semlar | since it's probably syncing with the server |
| 19:58.17 | Semlar | i need to test that my reset function works but i don't actually want to wipe out all of my settings |
| 19:58.44 | mckenziemc | i think there's a starter edition for taht |
| 20:00.55 | Semlar | how do you even play the game with 5 minute loading screens |
| 20:01.33 | Semlar | i would probably kick someone who isn't loading into an instance |
| 20:05.52 | Semlar | i can't help but notice some of the cvars from "cvarlist" aren't actually cvars that can be read outside of the console |
| 20:11.09 | Semlar | any idea what the "errors" cvar does? |
| 20:12.11 | Semlar | defaults to off |
| 20:12.32 | mckenziemc | triggers all sorts of errors |
| 20:12.39 | mckenziemc | obviously |
| 20:12.42 | Semlar | i probably shouldn't turn it on |
| 20:13.08 | Semlar | alright i turned it on |
| 20:13.39 | mckenziemc | put the lid back on that vase now |
| 20:13.50 | Semlar | i have no idea what it did |
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| 20:32.07 | Andols | Semlar: you scared salmon away |
| 20:33.15 | Semlar | yeah |
| 20:42.46 | Semlar | i'm helping |
| 20:51.01 | Andols | :) |
| 21:01.50 | Semlar | well, my game is accidentally in korean now |
| 21:03.33 | Andols | can you read it? |
| 21:04.06 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.33 | Semlar | it's pretty obvious what's using global strings |
| 21:06.29 | Andols | yeah |
| 21:07.26 | Semlar | i wasn't sure changing the locale cvar would actually work |
| 21:07.29 | mckenziemc | ships Semlar to North Korea. |
| 21:08.02 | Shockah | lol the action bar slots |
| 21:08.09 | Semlar | it made it start a 1.6gb update |
| 21:15.07 | Semlar | i don't think it's going to stop that update either |
| 21:16.48 | Andols | No it's not.. |
| 21:17.11 | foxlit | there's no helping it, you're obligated to play in korean now. |
| 21:17.27 | foxlit | bonus: phonetic alphabet. |
| 21:20.26 | Semlar | i'm assuming it's not downloading 1.6gb of text, so i don't know if it decided to download the audio for it too or what |
| 21:20.44 | Andols | probably |
| 21:21.07 | Semlar | i left the audio locale setting as english |
| 21:21.08 | Andols | I could not change back from russian to english before the download finished |
| 21:21.33 | Semlar | well i set the game back to english but it continued the download anyway |
| 21:22.11 | Semlar | probably thinks i might want korean again in the future |
| 21:24.39 | Gnarfoz | I think I checked before, but does anyone recall if the (ret) paladin bracers also work in other specs? probably not? ^^ |
| 21:24.51 | mckenziemc | are you sure it's not korean anime? |
| 21:26.18 | Gnarfoz | pretty sure. |
| 21:37.26 | nevcairiel | Many druid leggys work in other specs as long as it's the same spell, dunno about paladins |
| 21:44.56 | Gnarfoz | I don't have the spell as other specs :\ |
| 22:19.32 | nevcairiel | how would you figure it would work then :D |
| 22:24.12 | Gnarfoz | maybe the effect ist baked into the item ^^ |
| 22:24.34 | Gnarfoz | it's a different version of the spell anyway (twice as strong) |
| 22:26.34 | nevcairiel | i guess you dont have it yet, do you |
| 22:26.37 | nevcairiel | otherwise testing :p |
| 22:35.48 | Gnarfoz | I do have it, but a negative test result would mean death |
| 22:45.10 | znf | fuck |
| 22:45.12 | znf | it's snowing again |
| 22:45.40 | kd3 | I saw snow high in the mountains when I drove to LA this weekend. scary stuff |
| 22:46.20 | Thunder_Child | kd3: What, you didn't stop by to say hi? Mean. |
| 22:50.47 | znf | so Gnarfoz |
| 22:50.53 | znf | is the base of that light flimsy? |
| 22:50.56 | znf | or is it solid? |
| 22:50.56 | kd3 | eh, sorry. I was only in LA for ~2 hours. just down there to check on a customer and drive someone back up to the bay |
| 22:51.29 | znf | Gnarfoz, also, how does it look from the side? |
| 23:02.05 | Thunder_Child | It's fine kd3, I'll just cry myself to sleep. |
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| 23:13.09 | mckenziemc | kd3: and how much time driving? |
| 23:22.25 | Gnarfoz | znf: it doesn't weigh 5kg, but it doesn't feel like it's going to fall apart within the year |
| 23:24.23 | znf | Side pic |
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