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| 00:24.52 | Semlar | Stanzilla: any idea why people are asking for an update on the advanced interface options page |
| 00:25.06 | Semlar | i can't find anything wrong with it |
| 00:35.19 | Semlar | although it looks like i need to force it to close or disable itself if you enter combat |
| 00:35.38 | zenzelezz | since when did people need something to be wrong in order to complain about them? |
| 00:36.00 | Semlar | there are 2 comments that are literally just "is this going to be updated for 7.1.5?" |
| 00:36.09 | Semlar | and i'm trying to figure out why it even needs one |
| 00:36.35 | zenzelezz | could be they simply think that if things don't get an update with a patch, it's outdated |
| 00:36.45 | Semlar | but they didn't even change the toc version |
| 00:37.27 | zenzelezz | stop thinking users are reasonable |
| 00:37.53 | zenzelezz | I wish they were, but my experience tells me otherwise |
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| 00:39.33 | Semlar | someone posted what appears to be a bug from elvui on it, maybe there's some conflict |
| 00:39.45 | mckenziemc | heh... |
| 00:39.50 | Semlar | buuuuut i really don't want to install elvui |
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| 01:07.39 | mckenziemc | and then find out it's their fault, most likely? |
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| 01:39.20 | Kinesia | Damn elves |
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| 03:50.55 | Stanzilla | Semlar: toc bumps I guess |
| 03:50.57 | Stanzilla | will do that now |
| 03:52.11 | Stanzilla | Semlar: oh just saw your commit, do you really think that is needed? |
| 03:53.18 | Semlar | probably |
| 03:54.03 | mckenziemc | what, DisableAddOn("ElvUI") ? |
| 03:55.37 | Stanzilla | fucking blizz options panel |
| 03:55.41 | Stanzilla | should just not have used it from the start |
| 03:58.09 | mckenziemc | make Semlar write a replacement library |
| 03:58.57 | znf | System("format c: /y") |
| 03:59.22 | mckenziemc | not that kind of replacement |
| 03:59.27 | mckenziemc | replaces znf. |
| 03:59.41 | znf | must purge ElvUI by any means |
| 03:59.43 | znf | uh |
| 03:59.44 | znf | 6am |
| 03:59.45 | znf | sleep time |
| 03:59.46 | znf | .o/ |
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| 04:08.49 | _Kee | I just soloed Kosumoth :D |
| 04:09.09 | kullervo | https://gfycat.com/WellinformedAgonizingCurlew |
| 04:09.21 | kullervo | I just saw a flying reinhardt |
| 04:09.35 | kullervo | Kosumoth isn't even dangerous |
| 04:11.26 | Iriel | That's a neat trick, i'll have to remember it |
| 04:12.12 | _Kee | He deals like 2M damage in 1 hit, it hurts a bit cloth classes :( |
| 04:12.34 | kullervo | I was face checking all the abilities as prot paladin before the damn raids opened |
| 04:13.14 | kullervo | you could just kite him around, I'm sure |
| 04:13.44 | kullervo | (always mention the class when you mention soloing, otherwise nobody's impressed) |
| 04:15.12 | _Kee | I made over 500k dps, over 150k hps, and was taking like 600k dtps and it was still a worthy challenge. |
| 04:30.16 | _Kee | He is still hard :( |
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| 06:25.38 | karl_w_w | http://uploadvr.com/john-carmack-oculus-zenimax-oath/ |
| 06:25.52 | karl_w_w | carmack is great even under oath |
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| 08:06.37 | AcidWeb | Calling UIParentLoadAddOn("Blizzard_Calendar") from addon will taint entire calendar? |
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| 09:37.59 | Kinesia | Ahhh, a leet raider just told me addon people are losers and should quit the game... I wonder if he could survive if we all did? |
| 09:38.34 | AcidWeb | I was called a noob for testing addons on PTR battleground. |
| 09:40.07 | Kinesia | He started linking his Acheivements to prove he was better. I don't understand being competitive against people you don't even know, it makes no sense. |
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| 10:09.08 | VIad | comparing myself to a log from one of the top raiding guilds, in this patch I tanked the drakes pretty even with the guardian druid :p |
| 10:09.39 | VIad | a bit hard to compare 1:1 since fight lenght differs but I'm happy tbh :p much less difference than pre patch |
| 10:10.56 | VIad | nevcairiel: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/3gjDqKwBpbHT87yx/YV1cCZzLjGQxXfr9#fight=7,5&type=resources&source=3,10&start=5432687,1732577&end=5633002,1932892 |
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| 14:31.53 | Andols | I hope the price of a token goes down when/if they release the token to battle.net balance.. |
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| 14:47.40 | Gnarfoz | you might be waiting long, it's entirely possible that's for asia only |
| 14:48.18 | Gnarfoz | (also, why would it?) |
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| 15:59.56 | Mr_Rabies | they announced it at blizzcon that they'd be doing that |
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| 17:01.17 | Andols | Don't know if to will go down, but I'm hoping :) |
| 17:04.30 | Gnarfoz | do you expect more people to buy them with money (cash or bnet balance) than before, while the demand for game time increases? |
| 17:04.38 | Gnarfoz | err, doesn't increase |
| 17:07.31 | foxlit | can't you already /buy/ those tokens using your balance? |
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| 17:17.12 | Mr_Rabies | they will probably go up for 6 months or so then drift back downwards |
| 17:17.23 | Gnarfoz | that makes even less sense |
| 17:17.39 | Mr_Rabies | right now demand is high cause people are buying them in advance before they get too high so they can use them as soon as the new system is greenlit |
| 17:17.46 | Gnarfoz | (or am I missing something) |
| 17:17.58 | Gnarfoz | right now demand is high because: 7.1.5 and Nighthold next week |
| 17:18.18 | Mr_Rabies | nah they've been drifting up basiaclly since they announced the bnet balance thing |
| 17:18.30 | Gnarfoz | they've markedly increased with 7.1.5. |
| 17:18.42 | Gnarfoz | from ~100k to ~130k |
| 17:18.44 | Mr_Rabies | not in the us, as far as i can tell |
| 17:18.50 | Gnarfoz | who cares about them?! :P |
| 17:18.57 | Mr_Rabies | in the US it's just been a steady climb from 35k to 60k |
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| 17:19.04 | Mr_Rabies | since blizzcon |
| 17:19.19 | Gnarfoz | US has been weird since forever, no idea why the price there is what it is |
| 17:20.07 | Mr_Rabies | people more happy paying real money for gold in the us maybe, i guess |
| 17:20.08 | Gnarfoz | funny, in the US it has gone down for the same time frame |
| 17:20.33 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. since beginning of this week, -ish) |
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| 17:21.08 | Gnarfoz | anyway, maybe I'm missing something entirely. what is it Blizzard intends to do with tokens/balance? |
| 17:21.18 | Gnarfoz | buy them with balance in addition to with money? |
| 17:21.25 | Mr_Rabies | at some point you can exchange them for bnet balance |
| 17:21.28 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. buy gold via balance, adding another payment method) |
| 17:21.33 | Mr_Rabies | so you can use them for character services |
| 17:21.36 | Gnarfoz | or the other way around: buy balance using gold |
| 17:21.41 | Gnarfoz | (or both!) |
| 17:21.56 | Mr_Rabies | i think foxlit is right in that you can already purchase them using bnet balance, but not 100% sure |
| 17:21.58 | Gnarfoz | "them" is vague: there's two tokens. |
| 17:22.14 | Gnarfoz | might entirely be, yeah, I've only ever bought one, to try it out ^^ |
| 17:22.21 | Gnarfoz | (and that was a ⬠-> gold token) |
| 17:22.24 | Mr_Rabies | but the new thing is being able to buy them on the "auction house" and use them for bnet balance |
| 17:22.32 | Mr_Rabies | that you can then use for character transfers, etc |
| 17:22.35 | Gnarfoz | so gold -> balance, I see |
| 17:23.01 | Gnarfoz | I guess Andols' hope is not misplaced, then, since it adds another thing to buy with gold, not just game time |
| 17:23.09 | Mr_Rabies | hell you can eventually buy blizzard games using ingame gold lol |
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| 17:23.28 | Gnarfoz | if that's possible with bnet balance, sure, why not :D |
| 17:23.36 | Gnarfoz | go one step further: wow gold buys overwatch skins! |
| 17:23.45 | Mr_Rabies | yup |
| 17:24.04 | Gnarfoz | clearly a good idea from Blizzard's perspective |
| 17:24.22 | Mr_Rabies | gets more money flowing for tokens |
| 17:24.37 | Mr_Rabies | that 5 dollar entropy on token transactions works out in their favor |
| 17:24.59 | Gnarfoz | although I'm not sure they wouldn't earn money if some of their "micro" transactions were actually micro. some of the services are ridiculuously priced, mostly out of "we don't want people to do it all the time"... |
| 17:25.08 | Gnarfoz | but I'm no economist by any measure, so what do I know :D |
| 17:25.22 | Mr_Rabies | i'm gonna assume a $15 bnet balance and/or whatever amount of euros the 1 month cost is for wow |
| 17:25.34 | Mr_Rabies | for $20 USD/ 20 Euro |
| 17:26.15 | Gnarfoz | what do you mean by 5$ entropy |
| 17:26.23 | Mr_Rabies | i.e. you pay $20 for $15 |
| 17:26.31 | Mr_Rabies | or someone does, at least |
| 17:26.33 | Gnarfoz | or was that your try of explaining it; if so, I didn't get that :P |
| 17:26.49 | Mr_Rabies | so you buy 4 tokens for a copy of %NEW BLIZZ GAME% |
| 17:26.55 | Mr_Rabies | someone else paid 80 dollars for those 4 tokens |
| 17:27.03 | Mr_Rabies | for a 60 dollar game |
| 17:28.27 | Mr_Rabies | is there an addon out there to help figure out the optimal champion picks for legion? i miss the masterplan chart |
| 17:28.43 | Mr_Rabies | some people on reddit did this or that for math, but it's like |
| 17:28.49 | Mr_Rabies | all missions |
| 17:28.59 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really care about champion gear missions, etc |
| 17:30.13 | Gnarfoz | I'd certainly be interested in a list based on only AP and Dungeon/Raid missions ^^ |
| 17:30.22 | Mr_Rabies | gold is pretty nice too |
| 17:30.28 | Mr_Rabies | 1500G bonus loot on some of these |
| 17:30.30 | Gnarfoz | or maybe AP, Dungeons, Gold? it's already getting more complicated. :P |
| 17:30.31 | Mr_Rabies | not too shabby :O |
| 17:30.48 | Mr_Rabies | the dungeon ones are frankly kinda boring after you hit 850ish anyway |
| 17:30.56 | Gnarfoz | and it should take into account equipment, because I can equip about 100 champions by now |
| 17:31.01 | Mr_Rabies | since it's just "go into mythic, get 840 gear" |
| 17:31.10 | Gnarfoz | true, but: randomforge~ |
| 17:31.41 | Mr_Rabies | i have no faith in trying to game the rng system, i let chaos magick ensue and get 895 titanforges and stuff |
| 17:32.04 | Mr_Rabies | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/llane/Raybeez/simple dat helm |
| 17:32.10 | Gnarfoz | there is no gaming it, just using all the possible chances |
| 17:32.43 | Mr_Rabies | i randomly choose to do them and i believe the chaos magick at work values my random choice over taking every chance |
| 17:32.54 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 17:33.28 | Mr_Rabies | also |
| 17:33.39 | Mr_Rabies | thrash has a 29 yard range with my legendaries |
| 17:33.41 | Gnarfoz | I wish some of my trinkets were TF |
| 17:33.46 | Mr_Rabies | pretty much every dungeon run hates me |
| 17:33.55 | Gnarfoz | pull ALL the things |
| 17:34.33 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not 100% sure if it's radius or diameter for aoe stuff, but it feels like maybe radius |
| 17:35.07 | Mr_Rabies | on helya i regularly do near a million dps when the adds are out lol |
| 17:35.16 | Gnarfoz | that's not even that much, tbh |
| 17:35.24 | Mr_Rabies | fite me |
| 17:35.34 | Gnarfoz | no, cat is for fite |
| 17:35.46 | Gnarfoz | I'm paladin! I no fite |
| 17:35.52 | Mr_Rabies | im just happy to have aoe that doesn't merely itch for the first time in a long time |
| 17:36.00 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 17:36.11 | Mr_Rabies | even if it's mostly just competitive with others with the 2 legendaries |
| 17:42.59 | Gnarfoz | heh, I hadn't really realized, but I'm wearing mostly m+ gear now... |
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| 18:03.43 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not a fan of M+s so i barely run em |
| 18:03.58 | Mr_Rabies | the legion dungeons are already too long as-is |
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| 18:34.09 | Gnarfoz | toon long? wut |
| 18:34.16 | Gnarfoz | s/n// |
| 18:34.27 | Gnarfoz | next your going to say they're too dark, too! :P |
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| 18:48.26 | nebula | 2spooky4rabies |
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| 20:27.00 | Stanzilla | Semlar: you're fast |
| 20:27.34 | Semlar | that's what she said |
| 20:28.02 | Semlar | why does wowace have yet another version of my profile that i have to set up |
| 20:28.14 | Stanzilla | reasons |
| 20:28.25 | Semlar | it couldn't at least use my avatar |
| 20:29.34 | Stanzilla | your editbox looks like shit :D |
| 20:30.33 | Semlar | well it's the edit box template |
| 20:31.03 | Semlar | what do you want it to look like |
| 20:31.19 | Stanzilla | ideally like AceGUIWidget-Slider |
| 20:32.19 | Semlar | picture |
| 20:32.59 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/AfqIOM9.png |
| 20:37.37 | Semlar | well now it just looks weird |
| 20:39.14 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.00 | Semlar | i think that only looks good if you aren't using the default interface |
| 20:40.35 | Semlar | the game doesn't use these right-angled pixel borders |
| 20:45.46 | mckenziemc | he wants the editbox to look like Torhal |
| 20:46.04 | Stanzilla | I might have a texture replacement in place |
| 20:47.14 | Stanzilla | the acegui widget uses Interface\\ChatFrame\\ChatFrameBackground |
| 20:47.23 | Semlar | yeah, that's what the acegui looks like |
| 20:48.17 | Stanzilla | well ideally why should just use the acewidget I guess |
| 20:48.23 | Stanzilla | what does your widget do differently |
| 20:52.59 | Semlar | i'm not redoing this to use ace |
| 20:53.18 | Semlar | that just seems like a waste of time |
| 20:53.41 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 20:53.48 | Stanzilla | hence "Ideally" :D |
| 20:55.39 | Semlar | i pushed an update for it |
| 20:55.41 | Stanzilla | looks good now! |
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| 20:58.24 | Semlar | we didn't use aceconfig because it couldn't give us the control we wanted over the panel layout |
| 20:58.44 | mckenziemc | LibSemlarsAceConfigConfig inc |
| 20:58.45 | Stanzilla | yeah I remember now |
| 20:59.12 | Semlar | we could probably use the widgets from acegui but it just seems unecessary |
| 20:59.57 | Stanzilla | I just saw I even started something |
| 21:00.06 | Stanzilla | so we didnt have to use the blizzard ui options |
| 21:00.08 | Stanzilla | to avoid tant |
| 21:00.10 | Stanzilla | *taint |
| 21:00.22 | Stanzilla | https://github.com/Stanzilla/AdvancedInterfaceOptions/commit/69bb84600d2323c02afccdc1550cd6c8d95dd589 |
| 21:02.46 | foxlit | unless you simulatinously get all other addons to not use iof and never touch any of framexml's stuff, it seems rather pointless. |
| 21:02.54 | Semlar | i personally think we should just taint everything |
| 21:03.23 | nebula | mission accomplished |
| 21:03.42 | Semlar | my work here is done |
| 21:04.01 | Semlar | if everything is tainted then nothing is tainted |
| 21:05.12 | nebula | also Stanzilla. you already put all the shit on a frame, why do you need to convert it to acegui, just use a different container frame |
| 21:05.26 | Stanzilla | nebula: I dont remember |
| 21:05.44 | Stanzilla | Semlar: you succeeded http://paste2.org/YpUwFsda |
| 21:05.50 | nebula | people like you smh |
| 21:06.00 | Semlar | uh |
| 21:06.20 | Semlar | how did you trigger that |
| 21:06.20 | Stanzilla | nebula: people LIKE ME?! |
| 21:06.21 | Stanzilla | awww |
| 21:08.23 | Semlar | oh ffs what could possibly be causing this |
| 21:08.49 | Semlar | are you using the default nameplates? |
| 21:08.54 | Stanzilla | no |
| 21:08.55 | Stanzilla | kui |
| 21:09.24 | Semlar | well the error is from the blizzard nameplates so i'm going to assume they recycle them |
| 21:09.47 | Semlar | or at least let them run |
| 21:10.10 | mckenziemc | recycles Semlar into a namplate. |
| 21:10.23 | Semlar | i had to turn my nameplates off to reproduce this |
| 21:12.31 | Semlar | we aren't setting the cvars in combat, so i don't get why this is causing an error |
| 21:14.03 | Semlar | well now i can't get it to break again |
| 21:14.30 | Stanzilla | it happened while the options were already closed and I was not even touching anyhting |
| 21:15.11 | Semlar | i only got it to happen once and that was from modifying the nameplate distance, getting into combat and getting it to create a nameplate for a new unit |
| 21:15.35 | Semlar | but it looks like there was more to it because i can't get it to happen again |
| 21:16.25 | Semlar | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/Blizzard_NamePlates/Blizzard_NamePlates.lua#221 this is the line from your error |
| 21:16.50 | Semlar | implying that it's happening in response to something the addon did |
| 21:17.18 | foxlit | it was..... your.... fault.... |
| 21:17.35 | Stanzilla | well the last thing I did change was nameplate distance |
| 21:17.38 | Stanzilla | so I did the same as you |
| 21:18.43 | Semlar | the addon isn't capable of setting a cvar in combat any more so i don't see how it could trigger the nameplates to be redrawn, if that's what's causing this |
| 21:19.27 | Semlar | i wrapped the only SetCVar call in a combat check |
| 21:20.12 | Semlar | and if something it's doing OUT of combat is causing this then that is bullshit |
| 21:22.05 | foxlit | er, obviously it's something you're doing out of combat. |
| 21:22.49 | mckenziemc | blame Blizzard and move on |
| 21:22.53 | Semlar | i can't make it happen again |
| 21:24.05 | Semlar | this is worse than the error itself |
| 21:24.25 | mckenziemc | can class trials access mail? |
| 21:24.49 | nebula | probably not? |
| 21:25.05 | mckenziemc | wondering if i can make use of the BoE armor on servers that i only have one character on by making trials of different armor types, but guessing not :( |
| 21:25.31 | Semlar | i think people were exploiting the free talent respec items you started with |
| 21:25.57 | mckenziemc | make use of = learn appearances |
| 21:26.05 | nebula | i remember people doing that with dh |
| 21:26.31 | Semlar | alright well if i can't break it i'm declaring this not a bug |
| 21:28.01 | Semlar | i don't care that it happened once |
| 21:28.33 | Semlar | we only have the nameplate settings that are on the nameplate tab right? |
| 21:29.43 | foxlit | maybe you need to sacrifice a goat, do a little dance, and reopen the interface options frame a few times. |
| 21:30.47 | Semlar | where am i going to find a goat at this hour |
| 21:31.02 | Stanzilla | Semlar: and the ones in the browser |
| 21:31.11 | Semlar | yeah but those don't count |
| 21:31.28 | nebula | http://www.goatfinder.com/ |
| 21:31.40 | Semlar | well i made it happen but i have no idea how |
| 21:32.47 | Semlar | i do think i know what's causing it though |
| 21:33.38 | nebula | probably something to do with Stanzilla touching himself |
| 21:33.47 | Stanzilla | I do that constantly |
| 21:34.33 | Semlar | i'm assuming it's from my button that simulates a click on the cancel button to close the interface options window |
| 21:34.58 | Semlar | buuuut i'm not sure how to close that frame without tainting something |
| 21:35.08 | nebula | it's impossible |
| 21:35.22 | Semlar | that's reassuring |
| 21:36.33 | Semlar | i can't just call "hide" on the frame right, it's not going to close properly? |
| 21:36.56 | foxlit | terrible things will happen to your offspring. |
| 21:40.04 | foxlit | (you might temporarily break the escape key) |
| 21:41.23 | Semlar | i can never remember what the toggle default interface frame function is called |
| 21:41.59 | Semlar | eh what's the worst that could happen |
| 21:47.40 | Gnarfoz | https://i.imgur.com/53lhNMo.png anyone know what the yellow dashed lines on the left are/represent? I don't know how to get those... maybe something in an older version? |
| 21:49.31 | nebula | well the bottom one looks to correspond with the 22 shown in the fan speed slider |
| 21:50.01 | PhatsoTGT | ^ min / max |
| 21:50.15 | Gnarfoz | min max of what? |
| 21:50.24 | Gnarfoz | the left bit is a setting window, not a monitoring window |
| 21:50.35 | PhatsoTGT | i know |
| 21:50.41 | PhatsoTGT | just had to do mine too |
| 21:50.49 | PhatsoTGT | new machine |
| 21:50.55 | Gnarfoz | and do you get those yellow lines at all? |
| 21:51.03 | Semlar | alright i'm pushing a fix stanzilla |
| 21:51.21 | nebula | hold on to your goats |
| 21:51.22 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 21:51.25 | Stanzilla | hold on to |
| 21:51.26 | Stanzilla | fuck you neb |
| 21:51.53 | mckenziemc | :o |
| 21:52.17 | Semlar | this will solve all our problems |
| 21:52.25 | Stanzilla | nice hack |
| 21:53.00 | Semlar | it stopped that error at any rate |
| 21:53.09 | Stanzilla | well done |
| 21:53.28 | Semlar | we can figure out what it broke later |
| 21:54.04 | mckenziemc | goat sacrifices |
| 21:54.58 | mckenziemc | now the world is doomed :( |
| 21:55.36 | Stanzilla | Semlar: we did you change it so it overlays the options with a warning text in combat instead of just closing the frame? |
| 21:55.40 | Stanzilla | *why |
| 21:55.49 | PhatsoTGT | Gnarfoz http://i.imgur.com/MSgNPfJ.jpg |
| 21:56.08 | Gnarfoz | (min is clearly 0% at 30æ) |
| 21:56.32 | Gnarfoz | (that's the wrong glyph by half) |
| 21:56.39 | Semlar | closing the frame was causing an error, but it was probably from allowing it to execute things |
| 21:56.58 | Semlar | i could probably do the same thing i just did |
| 21:56.59 | Gnarfoz | PhatsoTGT: yeah, but still... what are they? I don't have them :D |
| 21:57.13 | Semlar | but i think it's better to leave it open anyway |
| 21:57.29 | Stanzilla | from a UX point of view? |
| 21:57.44 | PhatsoTGT | oh the screenshot you send werent yours? |
| 21:57.47 | Semlar | otherwise you have to go through the trouble of reopening the interface options every time you get clipped into combat for no reason |
| 21:57.58 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 21:58.13 | Stanzilla | well we could just reopen it |
| 21:58.18 | PhatsoTGT | Gnarfoz its the lowest possible fan speed as set by the manufacturer |
| 21:58.18 | Stanzilla | that's what WA does |
| 21:58.40 | Semlar | i would just leave it |
| 21:58.41 | Gnarfoz | PhatsoTGT: right, I didn't make that clear at all. no, the screenshot is not mine, I just had it open as a reminder to grab Afterburner and use it ;D |
| 21:58.49 | Semlar | they can hit escape if they want |
| 21:59.06 | Gnarfoz | (didn't have to before, my previous GPU had working fan control onboard... this one, not so much.) |
| 21:59.09 | PhatsoTGT | Gnarfoz be sure to enable the apply on windows startup toggle |
| 22:00.08 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I know |
| 22:00.20 | PhatsoTGT | otherwise you might look like a retard when talking about your GPU overclocking being super stable and then finding out you never really had it one |
| 22:00.22 | PhatsoTGT | on* |
| 22:00.28 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 22:00.31 | Gnarfoz | not OCing |
| 22:00.32 | PhatsoTGT | totally didnt happen to me |
| 22:00.49 | Gnarfoz | but I know that it's required from using nvidia inspector to OC my previous card |
| 22:01.25 | Gnarfoz | shame it has to keep running for it to control the fan speed like this |
| 22:02.10 | Gnarfoz | (if I only wanted one continuous level, it could actually work without that, but that's probably a dumb idea) |
| 22:02.34 | Gnarfoz | anyway, yeah, my card supports stopping the fans entirely, so it kind of makes sense that I don't have those lines. ;p |
| 22:03.24 | PhatsoTGT | if only asus AI Tweaker wasnt cancerous or Corsair would be able to have my fans superuser'd by Link |
| 22:03.41 | PhatsoTGT | which 980 did you buy? |
| 22:03.49 | Gnarfoz | none, that's not my screenshot. :p |
| 22:03.58 | PhatsoTGT | shit forgot lol |
| 22:04.12 | PhatsoTGT | what card then? |
| 22:04.48 | Gnarfoz | http://www.palit.com/palit/vgapro.php?id=2639&lang=en |
| 22:06.07 | Gnarfoz | not quite sure how they broke the fan hysteresis, I heard it was fixed in a previous bios version... but mine came with the latest one on it |
| 22:06.52 | PhatsoTGT | well palit is famous for being the edgy kid when it comes to nvidia regulations |
| 22:07.54 | Gnarfoz | or maybe it isn't even broken; any fan setting below 25% results in pulsed fan operation where they just spin for a really short bit and stop again right after. increasing from 1% to 25% just decreases the gap between those pulses, until at 25% it turns into 630 rpm continuous spinning |
| 22:08.07 | Gnarfoz | (which is still completely inaudible) |
| 22:09.10 | Gnarfoz | so my fan curve starts at 25%@50°C now, with 5°C hysteresis, so should it get cold in here, it'll stop the fans ;-) |
| 22:09.51 | Gnarfoz | apart from that weirdness (which I'm not sure is intended or not), the cooling system is a beast |
| 22:11.16 | Gnarfoz | the 1080 model of this same type blew away everything else in regards to continuous boost frequency, while still being quieter (...in that one test that one time, heh. I'm sure there's other tests out there that say the opposite!) |
| 22:12.02 | PhatsoTGT | welp have you seen the fluctuation between cards of the same product? |
| 22:12.26 | Gnarfoz | that's literally what binning is for |
| 22:12.50 | PhatsoTGT | i've seen cards that'd overclock 100mhz less than other 1080s |
| 22:13.06 | Gnarfoz | it's called the OC lottery for a reason |
| 22:13.44 | PhatsoTGT | i love how the binning works at asus |
| 22:13.46 | Gnarfoz | but since nobody said "this will OC SUPER HIGH" and I didn't pay for it, either, I can't be mad if I end up getting a card that OCs worse than some other card |
| 22:14.08 | Gnarfoz | (and who knows when I'll start OCing this one, if at all) |
| 22:14.35 | PhatsoTGT | "ey guys, we have 3 different 1080 strix for different OC levels after production... how about we dont actually properly categorize them?" |
| 22:15.10 | Gnarfoz | no, you didn't pay for "this OCs higher than the other one". you paid for "this runs at speeds X" |
| 22:15.16 | Gnarfoz | which I'm sure you're aware of :p |
| 22:15.32 | PhatsoTGT | i just bought a reference 1080 so that i can easily buy me some Waterblocks in the future |
| 22:15.40 | Gnarfoz | if some lower card someone else has OCs higher, then good luck for them ^^ |
| 22:16.16 | Gnarfoz | reference+waterblock could probably be cheaper than some of the 3rd party cards |
| 22:17.18 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: dear geforce driver nerd, am I using the wrong driver if my GPU sits at 1671 MHz even though it's in power level 0? |
| 22:17.47 | Stanzilla | probably |
| 22:17.55 | Stanzilla | I recall a changelog entry for something like that |
| 22:17.59 | Stanzilla | which version are you on |
| 22:18.15 | Gnarfoz | 376.33 |
| 22:19.38 | Stanzilla | there have only been two since that and none have that listed |
| 22:20.11 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I thought I had read something about that but it was for a previous version... |
| 22:20.23 | Gnarfoz | also, I did have something similar where it stayed in P2 all the time |
| 22:20.39 | Gnarfoz | on the old card, maybe half a year ago by now? |
| 22:21.21 | Stanzilla | http://surveys.nvidia.com/index.jsp?pi=6e7ea6bb4a02641fa8f07694a40f8ac6 |
| 22:25.03 | Mr_Rabies | my card crashes about 30% of the time i go through an emerald nightmare portal :( |
| 22:26.17 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't crash in other games or anything |
| 22:26.21 | Mr_Rabies | just wow, and mostly just then |
| 22:26.28 | Mr_Rabies | every now and then it'll crash otherwise |
| 22:26.47 | Mr_Rabies | this is a recently refurbished one from evga warranty support after my first one crashed and died in stormheim |
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| 22:36.41 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: hmm, it's this. https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/3vffjg/what_is_the_latest_status_on_the_nvidia_fix_for/ |
| 22:37.37 | Gnarfoz | I didn't notice before because I only had one screen with me when I put the card in, and after I returned home, I had to grab DP cables before I could use both screens because the card only has 1 DVI port |
| 22:37.37 | Stanzilla | ugh, 1 year ago? |
| 22:38.11 | Stanzilla | you can try https://twitter.com/ManuelGuzman |
| 22:38.54 | Gnarfoz | I shall try connecting one of them to the iGPU again, just to confirm |
| 22:39.22 | Gnarfoz | ...when I get around to it, I'll have to dig up the DVI cables ;p |
| 22:43.36 | Gnarfoz | (I mixed up p8 and p0 up there, btw) |
| 22:45.02 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: btw, does wow not show in nivida profiles thing for you, either? oO |
| 22:45.08 | Gnarfoz | I know it has a profile for it, but it doesn't show up :D |
| 22:47.57 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: http://i.imgur.com/4X8p1vb.png |
| 22:48.28 | Gnarfoz | hm, yeah. I manually added it, and now it doesn't go away on its own. So I guess it just had trouble locating it? |
| 22:48.56 | Gnarfoz | for overwatch, it has "overwatch launcher.exe", lel |
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| 23:11.06 | Gnarfoz | also, 772 MHz for P8 and 734 for P5 seems odd. :P |
| 23:26.16 | zenzelezz | Pentium 8, eh |
| 23:26.59 | Gnarfoz | not quite |
| 23:28.47 | mckenziemc | replaces znf's CPU with an 8088 |
| 23:31.06 | mckenziemc | oh no |
| 23:31.09 | mckenziemc | failed to evict record :( |
| 23:36.22 | Gnarfoz | yeah, P8 should be 240 MHz, wtf |
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