IRC log for #wowuidev on 20161205

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00:46.34mckenziemco.o
00:51.11Gnarfozrandom pm spam?
00:53.50znfYeah
00:54.02znfDo mode +R
00:54.38Gnarfozgood idea
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01:21.43Arrowmasteri see the botnet found its way here too
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01:47.45plawxyphoid: apparently just some inhouse thing
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02:21.25xyphoidweird seeing chch jobs advertised here haha
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03:01.10foxlitthe good ch or the bad ch?
03:07.26Gnarfoz2ch
03:29.37CairennThere was a spambot in here?  Anyone able to give me dets so I can +b?
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03:31.15ajmitch_xyphoid: you just made me check which channel I was in
03:44.44xyphoidyeah the job post did the same for me haha
04:05.07SeerahIf anyone feels like getting in the holiday spirit... https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FDp9C_0_JeYE&h=fAQGZHsB9
04:05.29Seerahboo...  There we go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp9C_0_JeYE
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04:17.59ArrowmasterCairenn: wasnt in here i dont think, i got hit with over 6000 different users pming me on another network then it started here on freenode
04:18.12Arrowmasteri went +R so unauthed users couldnt message me
04:18.18Cairennewwwwww!
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04:18.59Arrowmasteryeah i decided to just disconnect from the other server instead of trying to close 6000 windows
04:19.20Cairennwth did you do to piss someone off?
04:25.05znfCairenn, not like you could have banned it from PM-ing
04:25.18znfalso, the way these bots operate, they send a bot in the channel to collect nicknames
04:25.21znfthen other bots PM you
04:25.54znfhttps://twitter.com/IRCCloud/status/805339741570863104
04:26.00ArrowmasterCairenn: no i think they attacked everybody in the debian channels
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04:34.49mckenziemcspam-hugs Cairenn.
04:35.02Cairennhugs mckenziemc
04:44.10Fiskerhugspams Cairenn
04:45.25mckenziemcdo you have the necessary security clearance for that, Fisker?
04:46.05Cairennhugs Fisker
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05:15.36znfCan anyone log on EU?
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06:10.11Arrowmasteri just wanted to watch westworld and its finallly downloaded
06:22.21mckenziemcgoing through old files, found a folder "32MB SD"
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07:00.59Primer23 necks...no skill
07:01.44Mr_Rabiesthats a lotta necks
07:02.32Semlari've made no necks and also haven't gotten any skill
07:04.14PrimerOnly stopped because I ran out of bloods
07:04.22PrimerI guess I'm waiting another month for the next DMF
07:04.40PrimerAnd by then everyone will be 800 JC, and I won't be making dick on selling gems
07:05.12Semlarnot if everyone takes that approach
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08:24.13VIadPrimer: I recommend darkmoon faire, +5 skill each month. did it for my engineering because its crap anyway, nothing I need to max it for anyways, and its really cheap to get the +5 uring the event :D
08:24.49VIadI actually couldn't be bothered doing the last 10 skills in either way so I just DMF those, finishing this month, hurray
08:25.41VIadznf: you at least have your hidden artifact, I havent gotten mine to drop yet from my daily boss. once I do that, I need to do like 100 dungeons and 300 WQ, 1000 HK to unlock the appearances, even though I have already done those things and more >_> gg
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08:26.08VIadappearance unlocks should be retroactive, especially when you involve 1% drop chances.
08:26.23znfIt's a fucking dagger
08:26.37znfI Transmogged it anyway
08:26.59VIadyeah, it didnt really look that interesting
08:27.03VIadmine is like dualwielding shields
08:27.23VIadsomeone elses pictures http://imgur.com/a/jQh8S
08:27.42VIadI think its kind of neat
08:28.28VIadI wish they had added a statistic how many times you'd kill the class hall daily boss, it's probably over 100 by now
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08:37.50FireSiku=(
08:38.38FireSikuI feel bad for Primer
08:39.08VIadI rather pay 30 days of gametime to max my JC than wait for a 1% drop
08:40.03VIadon a serious note, the secondary stats change will make JC less good
08:40.15VIadin terms of benefits, think some other professions are better then
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09:03.06Stanzillaso blizz fucked up and enabled another world boss for EU
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09:05.13znfuh?
09:05.15znfStanzilla, where?! :o
09:05.35znfna'zak
09:05.36znffoudn it
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09:11.58znfuhm, for some reasons I can't log on to EU
09:12.01znfI get instantly disconnected
09:13.17znfStanzilla, UPDATE:
09:13.17znfYOU CAN GET LOOT AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT IF YOU RELOG
09:13.49VIadbans incoming
09:13.52Stanzillarather not get banned
09:14.01StanzillaI wonder how they can fuck up so badly again and again
09:14.09VIadselect * from loosthistory where lootthisweek > 1
09:21.15znfyeah, most likely going to issue a ban for repeat offenders
09:21.23znfnot for a first kill though
09:21.29Stanzilla^yup
09:21.58znfgot the haste ring
09:21.59znfuseless
09:22.08Stanzillaperfect fit then
09:22.36znfStanzilla, tried out PTR
09:22.40znfmy ring doesn't work yet with mind flay :D
09:23.07Stanzillagot the same ring btw :D
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09:28.51VIadSemlar: what happened with the thing you worked on regarding party interrupts?
09:32.59Semlarnothin
09:33.21VIad:'(
09:33.43VIadwant to collaborate and make an addon? :p
09:35.56Gnarfozwhich unsolved problem would that be?
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09:56.04VIadGnarfoz: it would be nice for m+ to see what interrupts the group has and cooldowns
09:56.12VIadperhaps even things like CC/stuns and so on
09:58.35znfman, I really wish .ro would have better animal cruelty laws
09:58.54znfsome fucktard let his pitbull loose on a cat, got filmed
09:59.00znfeye-witnesses kicked the shit out of him, tough
09:59.15znfand all police can do is "if he is identified [...]"
09:59.31znf...while the tv-station actually interviewed him
10:00.29Stanzillahate people
10:00.30znf"at most a few months of probation" or a fine...
10:00.31znfjesus
10:00.33Stanzillais he hurt?
10:01.10znfyeah http://i.imgur.com/BUYALih.png
10:02.12Gnarfozhttps://wago.io/NyJLsr8PW https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CIQbGT53EygCRa2SHmm5AVtseZRPRRyOLvV5iay8xNg/edit#gid=1678390859 https://www.wowace.com/projects/coolaid VIad
10:03.48VIadthanks Gnarfoz. I will look into it.
10:04.04nevcairielman the world quest timers must be severly screwed up
10:04.14nevcairielnow a new world boss spawned with a 3 day timer on a monday?
10:04.18VIadthings started to go weird after the kirin tor hotfix
10:04.18Stanzillayes
10:04.38VIador maybe they started to act weird before that, hence the kirin tor fix :p
10:04.47nevcairielbetter do it quickly before it goes away :D
10:04.58VIadat work :(
10:05.05VIadhope it stays up for 6 more hours
10:05.30Stanzillaalready on char 5 :D
10:05.35VIadbtw a side question, does GM Island still exist in the game? I found a reference to it in the areatable but unsure if it still is on the map file itself
10:06.20Gnarfozshould be on its own map
10:06.24GnarfozQ: I looked at your lua code and it's ugly.
10:06.24Gnarfoz<PROTECTED>
10:06.30Gnarfozgood addon description ^^
10:07.21VIadlol
10:07.44VIadif its on its own map shouldnt it be in the map.db2 file?
10:08.07VIadback in the day it was part of kalimdor, west of darnassus, past the void
10:08.16GnarfozI have no idea, I just know it's no longer in some corner of one of the regular maps
10:08.46VIadyeah
10:08.50VIadI think they just deleted it :p
10:08.56VIadits not like they need it
10:09.06nevcairielat least the alchemy recipe from nazak appaers to be guaranteed drop
10:10.42VIad"Expansion 5 QA Model Map" interesting map :p
10:10.54VIadI wonder what these special maps actually contain
10:11.08VIadone was called "QA and DVD"
10:11.28VIaddid blizz ever make a DVD about the game and such? maybe it had a part about what the QA team does and filmed them on this map :p
10:13.06Stanzillayes
10:18.52VIadcan we pray that 8.x brings GPU utilization? :p
10:19.06VIadas in maybe use the GPU cores that are idle to do some of the CPU work instead, would be nice
10:20.20VIadStanzilla: http://www.wowhead.com/zone=5/qa-and-dvd-global
10:21.30GnarfozVIad: it's still in use
10:21.59VIadreally? would assume the external tools made it useless.
10:22.06Gnarfozwhat external tools
10:22.16VIadfor the customer service things
10:22.22VIadchatting and such
10:22.28GnarfozI repeat: what external tools
10:22.32VIad,_,
10:22.44Gnarfozit's for when GMs log into the game, what users use has no bearing on that
10:22.52znfI doubt they'll ever change WoW to fully utilize modern things
10:23.03Gnarfozhow could they
10:23.03VIadI am sure they no longer use the game client when having to "whisper" people
10:23.17Gnarfozthat's not what they need to log in for
10:23.23Gnarfoz(and never was, tmk)
10:23.43VIadback in vanilla I sometimes could /who GM and see the island and people on it
10:23.59VIadthink also when a GM talked to me in whispers I could /who them
10:24.01Gnarfozcould do that today
10:24.05znfback when GMs weren't neutered
10:24.07Gnarfozjust means they were logged in, too
10:24.21VIadhavent seen a GM ingame for years
10:24.23znfand when they could actually help with shit
10:24.24VIadback then it was more common
10:24.39Gnarfozmost recent GM sighting in game for me was in Cata, I think
10:24.42VIadthey seem to have some interface with stuff they are allowed to do
10:24.49znflast time I saw a hint of a GM was when we had one in our raid group in Dragon Soul
10:25.02Gnarfozthere's simply multiple levels of customer service agents, not all of them are allowed to do everything
10:25.05VIadI once had a GM logged on my character
10:25.08Gnarfozsame
10:25.10Gnarfozhe deleted it
10:25.13Gnarfozfucker! :D
10:25.15VIadlol
10:25.21VIadmine asked me to logout and login an alt
10:25.25VIadmeanwhile he logged the character :p
10:25.32VIadit said the character was locked if I tried to login on it
10:25.40znfGnarfoz, I doubt those exist
10:25.47VIadmy character got the GM tag in chat when he spoke with me in guild :p
10:25.52znfit's just level1 guys who used canned responses
10:25.54VIadit was to help me fix a issue I had with my guild bank
10:25.55Gnarfozyou can doubt all you want, of course, but that's how it works
10:25.58znfthere's no such thing!
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10:26.14VIadI suspect they need like, clearance to login
10:26.27VIadcan't just login to give you candy like back in the day
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10:27.01Gnarfozgotta keep up those ticket clearance rates
10:27.05Gnarfozain't nobody got time fo' dat
10:27.16VIadis the WSG bunny still in the treestump?
10:27.21VIadI doubt it :(
10:27.41Gnarfozthere's bunnies all over the place, anyway
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10:27.45VIadthink it was a dwarf at some point too
10:28.38VIadoh I need to use my beer goggles more when doing old content
10:28.51VIadsome people said you can see the controller NPC that steers rhyolith in firelands :p
10:30.10VIadthere is new tech that doesn't require these dummy NPCs ingame right?
10:30.15VIadI mean it feels very vanilla-ish
10:30.57VIadI bet they can just have scripts running on the server that doesn't need to be in the world as an entitiy, or maybe not, maybe it's always stalkers and bunnies, everywhere
10:31.49Gnarfozconsidering the game is a card house of low tech stuff piled many layers high...
10:32.02nevcairiellow tech best tech
10:32.10Gnarfozdidn't they just recently have a bug where some spell was implemented using invisible NPCs that follow you around
10:32.14Gnarfozjust for the visual
10:32.22Gnarfozthat was the UNIT_HEALTH with no unit thing, IIRC
10:32.35VIadI have been attacked by the karazhan chess event bunny :/
10:32.48VIadseveral times when I did it on my DH for some mogs
10:35.45Gnarfozlol, I was googling if Nazak is on the surface or below, meanwhile WQGF did all the work. Queued, joined, someone else killed it, completed, left.
10:35.47Gnarfozmagic addon.
10:36.01VIadfun detected, fix incoming.
10:36.03Gnarfozproblem: I think I'll have to kill it again for boss loot :D
10:36.22znfincoming ban, Gnarfoz
10:36.28VIadCreating, accepting, declining and joining groups requires hardware event.
10:36.35nevcairieli really dont like that addon, most of the time other people are more annoying then helpful, prefer to do my own thing =p
10:36.58VIadone addon I hate is personal loot helper
10:37.02VIadthat thingshould burn
10:37.08znfit has its uses
10:37.17Gnarfoznevcairiel: really? I've not had that.
10:37.19VIadlike people writing in chat "X got an item Y can use"
10:37.33Gnarfozthe biggest problem I've encountered is groups turning into raid groups for no reason
10:37.34nevcairiellike did the WQ with the 3 guys in suaramar elite town, most other idiots just train the entire city full of  mobs into those rooms while I just sneak in and kill the guy with no trouble
10:37.34znfVIad, yeah, what's wrong with that?
10:37.39nevcairielusually takes longer with those i diots around
10:38.10Gnarfozwell, that's for stealthers and other classes with means to get out of combat
10:38.12VIadznf: mind your own business is why
10:38.17nevcairielwhich I am
10:38.21nevcairielso get out of my way scrub
10:38.22nevcairiel:D
10:38.29znfVIad, *shrug*
10:38.32znfyou can just decline to trade it
10:38.33Gnarfozmore like don't use addon in such cases :D
10:38.46nevcairielits just the most obvious example
10:38.50VIadif you use PLH t osee when you can trade something you get to someone else to be nice, fine
10:38.56VIaddont set it to spam the chat
10:38.58nevcairielwith multi-tapping and stuff i never thought it would help much
10:39.00nevcairieli just spam-tag
10:39.08znfsame ^
10:39.12znfrun around, dot everything
10:39.14Gnarfozwhen grouped, you don't even need to tag
10:39.19Gnarfoz(also, melee)
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10:39.31nevcairielbeing a tank, spam tagging means everything comes running to me anyway with one dot on them
10:39.32VIadI sometimes shadowmeld combat away so the spam tagger gets destroyed when I fight elites and he dont help DPS them
10:39.49VIadif I spam tag I aggro most of the time, so its not like I am not taking responsibility :p
10:39.54nevcairieli have moonfire on 45y range for tagging! :D
10:40.08VIadI hate dps that tag and dont help kill stuff, especially elites
10:40.35VIadalso, pro tip, tag mobs that scale at lower hp soit goes quicker for everyone :p
10:40.55VIadleveling with friends, I let the dps burst the rare down before I tag it, its very fast
10:41.02nevcairielit only goes quicker if you do less then average dps
10:41.16VIadbeing a tank it scales up as if I am a dps
10:41.21nevcairieljudging from lfr numbers, I do plenty dps compared to those scrub dpsers everywhere
10:41.25znfI usually pull all the mobs in an area, for example in PvP towers
10:41.33znfI run around doting
10:41.35VIaddo you LOS them?
10:41.42VIadI LOS them in the entrance so they all gather
10:41.45znfnah
10:41.50znfI run around all the place
10:41.55znfgotta do it in one run!
10:42.16znfin PvP areas I do lots of instant-cast damage
10:42.24znfplus I have the cast-on-the-move legendary
10:43.38znfit's nice when some people chose to join-in on my tags :D
10:45.34nebulaSemlar: is the QueryAuctionItems "bug" still a thing? you still have a edited version of AuctionLite or what i need to change
10:45.47Semlarthey fixed that
10:45.48VIadnebula: you can sort price per item
10:45.53VIadso its not needed anyway
10:46.13VIadcan search for one page of results and sort cheap to expensive and just use that :d
10:46.14nebulaVIad: you're wrong
10:46.32nebulafor an addon that aggregates lots of listings, it was great
10:46.33VIadtoo bad
10:46.57VIadI used it to quicker find all the herb plants across 40 pages
10:47.00VIadto find the cheapest
10:47.08VIadbut with the changes to show price per item its easier now
10:47.16VIaddont need to scan all 40 pages :p
10:49.03Semlarthat actually only works when you search for an exact match
10:49.29Semlari was going to write an auction house addon buuuuuut too much work
10:51.06nebulawhat would be special about yours?
10:51.22Semlaryou could make an addon search quite quickly
10:51.34Semlarbut you'd have to optimize it to do that
10:55.36GnarfozI wish TradeSkillMaster had a mode to only search the first X pages or something
10:55.58GnarfozI wonder if Sapu has keyword highlighting. :P
10:56.06Semlarthe problem with sorting by minimum buyout is that if your search returns results for multiple different items, then you have a problem
10:56.30Semlarbecause whatever item is cheaper is going to be first
10:56.41Semlarand that's not necessarily what you actually wanted
10:57.20Gnarfozthat's easy enough to account for, isn't it
10:57.30Semlaris it
10:57.42GnarfozTSM already has an exact search feature
10:57.54Semlarwell of course you can run an exact match, but that's less convenient
10:57.58Gnarfoz(which probably just throws out stuff not matching the search string)
10:58.04Semlaryou have to use the exact name of the thing you're searching for
10:58.12nevcairielyour addon might also assist you into guessing what you want
10:58.14Gnarfozwhich is an edge case anyway
10:58.37Gnarfozmight multiply number of pages scanned by number of unique items matched
10:58.41Gnarfozsame end result
10:58.46znfTheDanW, is there any reason as to why the PvP (battlegrounds) instance pop-up doesn't flash the taskbar like LFD/LFR do?
10:58.46nevcairielif i search for starlight rose, i am unlikely to be interested in starlight rose seed at that time
10:59.26Gnarfoz(inb4 more things that need improving for the default AH (or its API))
10:59.44nevcairielthe AH could use a doover entirely
10:59.51nevcairielmaybe with 8  if we are lucky
11:00.34Gnarfozdum spiro spero
11:00.37znfthat's very hopeful of you
11:00.47znfI'm fully expecting it in 10.0 tough
11:01.06Semlarmy idea was that you run the initial search and sort it by name and minimum buyout
11:01.13Gnarfozcoinciding with wowace relaunch?
11:01.27Gnarfozwait, that already happened... shit
11:01.27Semlarand use that search to get the exact name of the last item on the first page
11:01.55Semlarand run a second search using the exact match to count the number of results for that item
11:02.05nevcairielthat wouldnt seem to guarantee that you would get anything but one item on your first page
11:02.08Semlarthen you can skip that many pages
11:02.14Semlarto find the second item in the first search
11:02.26Semlarand do the same thing
11:02.30nevcairielthat also seems like inaccurate guess work
11:02.40nevcairielprices may overlap somewhere in the middle
11:02.42Semlarit would greatly, greatly reduce the number of scans
11:03.01nevcairielseems easier to make an addon that guesses whatever exact thing you wanted
11:03.05nevcairieland if in doubt, ask the user to pick
11:03.35Semlarunfortunately you can't just offer suggestions because the cache is a clusterfuck
11:03.47Gnarfozyou can, if you keep your own cache
11:03.51Semlaryou could eventually build one
11:03.53Gnarfoz(which TSM does already)
11:04.21Semlarbut you run the risk of it not being complete
11:04.26Gnarfozanyway, sounds mostly like you're focusing on non-exact matches, is that really the main problem
11:04.39GnarfozI run into that maybe once a month
11:05.04GnarfozI'd be more interested in not scanning 28 pages when I know the thing I want to buy is on page 1 anyway
11:05.17Semlaryes, because i don't personally ever type the full name of an item i'm searching for on the auction house
11:05.23nevcairielyou can do that today without any addon, Gnarfoz :)
11:05.36Gnarfoztrue, but they make it hard to navigate various stack sizes
11:05.39znfGnarfoz, didn't addons make use of the sort feature yet?
11:05.46Gnarfozznf: not that I'm aware, no
11:05.49znftards
11:05.51Gnarfozat least not TSM
11:05.59nevcairielTSM is a clusterfuck, imho
11:06.03znfit is
11:06.07Semlarand that would be solved by displaying the results you've already found while continuing your scan
11:06.27Semlarthere's no reason to withhold that until it's finished
11:06.28Gnarfozit has some page skipping logic apparently (judging from the progress), but if it has an option to just scan page one for the lowest item, I haven't seen it
11:06.56GnarfozSemlar: you'd have to disable sorting until you're finished, but that's about it
11:07.17Semlardepends on what you're sorting by
11:07.28Semlarthe api lets you return the results sorted
11:07.43Semlarbut if you want it sorted by something the api doesn't support, you'd have to do it as the scan progresses
11:07.56Gnarfoznone of the sorting methods it offers rely on the API's sorting, I bet
11:08.40nevcairielwith the new sorting introduce in 7.1 you could probably make a super tiny addon that just solves some UI quirks and works for 99% of all people
11:08.42Semlari don't know what i would even sort it by aside from minimum per-item buyout
11:08.48nevcairielall existing auction addons are huge messes
11:08.56Gnarfozscanning to know if I've been undercut should also be quicker... scan 1 page for lowest buyout, if my auction is not on there, I've probably been undercut? :D
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11:09.28znfis the default sorting an API parameter?
11:09.45Semlarwhat do you mean
11:10.39znfhow do you trigger a scan?
11:10.48SemlarQueryAuctionItems
11:11.10Semlarthere's an api function to set the sort method
11:11.22Semlarlike SortAuctionSetSort or something
11:11.36Semlarand then after you set the sort methods you want, you apply them
11:11.51Semlarand then run the search
11:12.01Semlarand it'll be sorted the way you requested
11:13.09znfI see
11:13.39Semlaralso i'm pretty sure you don't even have to run another query if you're buying multiple items from the same page
11:13.51nevcairielyou dont
11:13.51Semlarand i don't know any auction addon that supports doing that
11:13.55nevcairieluntil that page is empty
11:14.12nevcairielauctionator only runs a new query if the next item to buy is on a different page
11:14.13znfI nominate nevcairiel to write an auctiona ddon
11:14.15Semlarlike you could pretty much instantly buy one page worth of stuff
11:14.31nevcairielyou can spam click the buy button until the page ends without any delay
11:14.51Semlaralright, auctionlite ran another query every time you hit buy
11:16.36nebulafix it so it sorts the buy order by page!
11:17.33Stanzillahey nebula
11:17.57nebula<PROTECTED>
11:18.16Semlari went back to playing warframe
11:18.22Stanzillanope
11:18.28Semlarthey don't even have an auction house
11:25.57nevcairielis that good or bad
11:29.35Semlarwell, probably not great for trading in the game, but i don't have to think about addons
11:30.34Semlarjust space ninja things
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11:32.55VIadI feel that older AH addons still use old code that worked and was needed back in the day, might be different now, but needs to rewrite
11:33.48nebulathe ah really hasn't change much
11:34.32VIadnah, but the new query changes and price per item (instead of the stack) really helps in performance when making addons for it
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11:36.58VIadauctionator I believe rescans when you want to buy
11:37.10nevcairielonly if it has to
11:37.15nevcairielie. the item isnt on the current page
11:37.33VIadreally? felt like it did it a lot. and sometimes I even had problems where it couldn't buy but didnt try to refresh and such.
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12:16.10GnarfozI can always buy up to 50 items quickly with TSM, so I doubt it rescans before that
12:22.59karl_w_wpeople who have never seen snow first hand are absolutely idiots on the subject
12:23.17nebulawhite death! proof the end is near!
12:23.53StanzillaI want a SSX remake for PC
12:24.34Gnarfozkarl_w_w: so, Californians?
12:24.55karl_w_wI thought they were idiots by default
12:28.15Stanzillathx EUbama http://i.imgur.com/drvWnbj.png
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13:53.08VIadStanzilla: I dont see a problem
13:53.57VIadas in I dont see what the columns are, maybe characters? :p
13:54.05VIadreminds me of my savedinstances addon
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14:27.39VIadSemlar: about the AH thing, could have a buy page that you can write something, and a guessing popup appears below like on achievements search, to allow you to specifically look for a specific item for exact search
14:28.01VIadlike "ruby" then you see ruby related items in the menu below to click on, or just search for a slow search, since it would need to go through more pages
14:28.32VIadsounds like a lot of UI work before a search query :(
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14:58.18mckenziemcsearches VIad's queries for signs of malicious intent.
15:00.00VIadsql queries
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15:21.37StanzillaUS has the second world boss now, too
15:23.28FiskerHey Stanzilla
15:24.46Stanzillahey Fisker
15:28.16Alramhey Fisker
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18:21.50SapuGnarfoz, yes I do :P
18:22.02GnarfozSapu: pro IRCer
18:22.03Gnarfoz:D
18:26.47SapuTSM used to use a max buyout value to optimize scans, but that was removed in favor of other optimizations which result in scanning for multiple items at a time
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18:47.31InfusSemlar: so I got another report that circular progress is broken (though due to the user being a real aresehole, I'd rather not converse with them). what's the state with your friend, does he still apply a patch? Or does it work for him?
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19:30.15StanzillaI really dont understand why people have to be such dicks in tickets
19:32.35TorhalStanzilla: You should add a tag for that - "Won't Fix: Horrible Person"
19:33.00StanzillaTorhal: he made a whole video about mocking Infus
19:33.11Stanzillaif one person deserves that status
19:33.12Stanzillathat one is
19:34.23Infusyep, definately worst bug report of the year
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19:41.19Thunder_ChildWell, someone still has ~3 weeks to top it.
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20:06.08Stanzillahttp://i.imgur.com/OOFRJvr.gifv
20:12.50karl_w_whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrmMk1Myrxc sounds like a nightmare
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20:15.42Stanzillasounds like orwellian future
20:16.11Stanzilla"your insurance company noticed that you buy lots of unhealthy shit so your monthly rates went up by 1%"
20:36.46znfStanzilla, EARLY CHRISTMASS
20:36.48znfwe have responses
20:36.55znfprobably horrible
20:37.54Stanzillawhat are you talking about
20:37.55znfConversely, in single-target situations, you were able to extend your DoTs pretty much infinitely. We want to move away from that. As a DoT-based class, you should have to re-cast them from time to time.
20:37.56znfyeah, fuck off
20:38.07Stanzillaoh
20:38.08Stanzilla@WarcraftDevs: Some responses to Shadow Priest feedback on the PTR forums: https://t.co/CGi3CfczA8
20:38.10znfI don't want to fucking recast my dots while I'm in fucking voidform, you fucking retard
20:40.05znf6) We think that hard “drop” is a good thing – it provides a stark contrast between how the spec feels inside and outside of Voidform.
20:41.34kd3o_O
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20:44.31Thunder_Childservice hugs stop
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20:57.30bsheldenpermission denied
21:00.23Thunder_Childsudo !!
21:00.46bsheldenPermission denied.  This has been reported to the system administrator.
21:03.36SemlarInfus: he just tried the alpha and says it didn't immediately demonstrate the same problem he had before so it probably works
21:03.48Infusokay thanks
21:08.00Semlari'll let you know if he runs into anything else
21:08.18Stanzillalike a lamp post?
21:08.20Stanzillaor a tree?
21:13.48Semlaror a bug
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21:46.18GnarfozI like lamp
21:50.23nevcairiel_Is blue tracker busted again or why is it now showing those PTR posts
21:53.09nevcairiel_Not*
22:01.20Gnarfozyay, finally managed to do a +10 in time without fucking up
22:01.42Gnarfozweeks behind
22:02.09nevcairielGratz
22:02.18nevcairielThis week was easy affixes too
22:02.35Gnarfozyeah, considerably
22:02.53nevcairielOverflowing is just a joke
22:03.03Gnarfozalthough we could've done it with other affixes too, most of our non-successful runs are just too many stupid deaths
22:03.17Gnarfozdid a +11 arcway before the +10 NL, and failed that with 40s over the timer
22:03.26Gnarfozhad 1min30s worth of deaths
22:03.37Gnarfozand our shaman was dead for the entire p2 of the final boss
22:03.39nevcairielNever did a high arcway, we somehow avoided that
22:03.56Gnarfozwe've done so many Arcways it's not even funny (we get 2 arcway keys at least, per week xD)
22:04.10Gnarfozhe died to one of the ghosts during the ghost phase
22:04.18nevcairielAnd yeah we usually also lose much time to death and the sit there with 30s missing :0
22:04.39nevcairielWe typically get lots of CoS
22:04.46nevcairielLast week like 3 halls
22:04.48Gnarfozeven th ough we've done a lot of them we still can't get a consensus on when to use invis
22:04.50nevcairielDon't like halls
22:05.08Gnarfozwe basically used it for a single pack :D
22:05.11Gnarfozright before last boss
22:05.27nevcairielCoS is easy enough but for some reason we never even get close to 3 chest
22:05.39Gnarfozwtb automation for the party event
22:05.51Gnarfoz(not just posting to chat, I know there's WA's for that and DBM does it)
22:06.07nevcairielI bet you can still exploit through the boat event somehow, but I prefer not to do such things
22:07.59nevcairielI have wondered before If you couldn't make an add-on to identify the npc automatically somehow
22:08.23nevcairielRecord all possible NPC ids, map to properties, parse the dialogs
22:08.26foxlitbring a demon hunter.
22:08.58Gnarfozthat's not the kind of solution you're known for
22:09.22Gnarfozstill need a counter of some sort to make sure you've gathered all clues
22:09.27Gnarfozbefore you do that, it won't work
22:09.35nevcairielYeah
22:09.53Gnarfozalso kind of disappointed that prot pala shield works so coarsely, but DH can pinpoint which one it is
22:10.01nevcairielIt's usually fine for us, two in our group are good at spotting
22:10.01Gnarfoz(pala can only tell group)
22:12.45foxlitI like that gameplay, though
22:13.55nevcairielI don't like that one class has such a advantage in a timed environment
22:14.10nevcairielBut CoS is crap for consistency anyway with the random bonus spawns
22:14.27foxlitrealistically, it's like 10 seconds?
22:14.39nevcairielWe lacked that time before!
22:14.48foxlitdps harder.
22:15.06nevcairielEspecially when for some reason the NPC's decide to do the full dialog
22:15.22foxlitit's tied to beacons for the first boss.
22:15.23znfthey should have made them spawn either all or none
22:15.52nevcairielIf we do all beacons they talk more?
22:15.56foxlityep.
22:15.58nevcairielHow is that logical :d
22:16.12foxlitnot alerted to your wrongdoings.
22:16.17znfisn't arcway the same?
22:16.22znfevery lockout you can get another path?
22:16.26nevcairielWe jumped in front of them
22:16.46nevcairielThey should notice :p
22:16.49foxlitthat's a different issue, imo. Should just let you moonfire her face.
22:17.59znfdid they fix the countdown timer "exploit" in Nelth?
22:18.00GnarfozI don't understand what you're talking about
22:18.03Gnarfozwho talks longer?
22:18.06foxlitplot-armored NPCs are a bit annoying.
22:18.26Gnarfozand do they talk longer if you deactivate the beacons or if you don't deactivate them?
22:18.36foxlitelisande does her dropping some eves achievement speech in mythic+ if you do deactivate all of the beacons.
22:18.52Gnarfozso it isn't random after all
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22:20.06Gnarfozdo you still need to do the "grab keys quickly from the demon and have someone run ahead to the door" thing for it?
22:20.19Gnarfozbecause I'm sure we did deactivate all beacons in the beginning
22:20.40foxlitI don't think the key matters.
22:21.48znfquestion -
22:22.15znfDoes it make any sense into spending artifact points above Rank 35 right now?
22:22.25znfConsidering 7.1.5 is supposed to be adding more ranks for existing traits
22:23.47[TOM_RUS]not 7.1.5, it's 7.2 for new ranks
22:24.05znfoh
22:27.48Gnarfozwe still don't know if those new ranks will be locked behind x/20 in the "endless" trait
22:28.24Gnarfoz(I'd say no, but they already mentioned that they haven't decided what to gate them behind)
22:33.43znfstops buying traits until 7.2
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22:49.48AndolsI think VIad and Semlar looked at the party in CoS
22:51.37AndolsAnd I think they found out that the "demon" didn't have any special id.
22:52.19znfwe wiped twice in grim batol
22:52.34AndolsAnd the same for the different clothing
22:52.38Andols:(
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23:00.35GnarfozAndols: that's terrible
23:00.50GnarfozVIad: please confirm/deny (preferably deny)
23:05.14nevcairielznf: if i were blizzard, i would somehow dis-incentivise hoarding AP before a new patch. not to mention that any AP hoarded now is just w asted space considering in a couple weeks you can be storing 5 times the amount or so
23:05.34nevcairiel(in short, we dont know shit about any details)
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23:18.40VIadAndols: Gnarfoz: the talking achievement at the end of COS is random, irrelevant what you do.
23:19.10VIadwe have had no beacons up, all beacons up, all scouts dead, no scouts dead, failing on the end and getting someone kicked out of the party, and so on.
23:19.31VIadIMO in CM they should just drop all the RP bullshit and achievement should just appear if you got it in m+
23:22.35GnarfozVIad: tell that to foxlit (also that wasn't my question)
23:22.42VIadok, sorry :d
23:26.49Gnarfozfoxlit: also, that's wrong
23:29.11Gnarfozmore theories that someone says work!... making no mistakes (don't talk to the wrong person, don't run in without the disguise) during the party sequence supposedly is the important thing
23:29.24Gnarfoz(yadda yadda "that's what we did and we got the achievement")
23:29.30nevcairielwe usually dont make mistakes
23:29.34nevcairieland still get the long speech
23:29.38Gnarfozso?
23:29.41Gnarfozthat's the point
23:29.42VIadI'd say its RNG
23:29.48nevcairielso we have to screw up?
23:29.51nevcairielrng is more likely =p
23:29.51Gnarfozeh?
23:29.56Gnarfozisn't the achievement from the long speech
23:30.03VIadI've done COS a lot of times in m+ and same results, random ending :p
23:31.06nevcairielGnarfoz: dont want the achiev, got that, want to save time in m+
23:31.14VIadmakes sense
23:31.27Gnarfozyeah, I was on the "how get achievement" train now, thanks to VIad
23:31.55Gnarfoz(OTOH "how to not get achievement" is relevant for m+, which was our initial topic ^^)
23:32.18VIadas said my group hasnt found a solid way to skip the long speech, we just get it sometimes :/
23:35.36VIadon DHT we have 2 and 3rd ranks this week, kek
23:35.54VIad#2 on arcway +15
23:36.13VIadonly one group made +15 maw timed, wow
23:36.18VIadshould be like free +15 timed this week
23:36.47Gnarfozit just looks that way, most groups don't bother logging/uploading m+.
23:37.27nevcairielblizzard has leaderboards now
23:37.33nevcairielalso i wish we would get mos stones more often
23:37.35nevcairielbarely ever
23:38.07Gnarfozarcway all day for us
23:41.29nevcairieldont think we ever had one week where we actually got good stones at high levels
23:41.44VIadhad maw a long time ago but was necrotic ,_,
23:42.35nevcairieldid maw 10 this week on some random guildies stone, not in standard group
23:42.46VIadthe new 10 is 12 from last week
23:42.51VIadkind of lame, harder :p
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23:44.14nevcairielnext one is sang/volcano, isnt it
23:44.19VIadyes
23:44.20VIadfortified :d
23:44.28nevcairielhate volcanos
23:44.32VIadso good man
23:44.34VIadCOS last boss
23:44.35VIadswag
23:44.41nevcairieli have a hard time to see them under my big bear ass
23:44.42nevcairieltoo fat
23:44.43nevcairiel:D
23:44.45VIad:DDDD
23:44.55VIaddont disguises work through bear?
23:44.56VIadbecome a gnome!
23:45.02nevcairielyeah it does
23:45.37nevcairielone more timewalker and finally done
23:47.29VIadbtw
23:47.38VIadmost overpriced and boring mount in the history of wow http://www.wowhead.com/item=141713/arcadian-war-turtle#comments
23:47.44VIadit's so bad
23:47.56VIadshould feel ashamed for adding such mount to the game tbh
23:49.04VIadsleep time :d
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