| 00:00.29 | znf | enough for me to die from S2M |
| 00:00.54 | Gnarfoz | well, knowing the encounter pays off. |
| 00:01.03 | znf | but really, I've never gotten feared before |
| 00:01.06 | nevcairiel | ah yeah taerar does it, who is up this week |
| 00:01.11 | nevcairiel | well the dragons cycle |
| 00:01.15 | znf | I know they do |
| 00:01.18 | znf | I've gotten taerar before |
| 00:01.25 | znf | never gotten feared tough |
| 00:01.45 | Gnarfoz | woah, I made it to the first safe spot platform |
| 00:02.34 | Gnarfoz | from there it's super easy |
| 00:02.34 | znf | WoW should have a "afk while trash" mode |
| 00:02.48 | znf | where your char just follows someone and auto-attacks a target, and uses some common spell |
| 00:03.08 | nevcairiel | isnt that what lfr is for |
| 00:03.24 | znf | this is heroic, please |
| 00:04.46 | Gnarfoz | should skip right ahead and just get a new epic on login, each time |
| 00:05.12 | znf | yes please |
| 00:05.30 | znf | as a solo player, it gets annoying to find a pug each week |
| 00:06.03 | nevcairiel | didnt you want to quit |
| 00:06.12 | nevcairiel | if not, find a guild :p |
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| 00:06.28 | znf | I don't want a guild |
| 00:06.38 | znf | guilds are icky, there's drama and they have schedules |
| 00:06.55 | znf | my "friends" all ditched me when asking for M+ |
| 00:07.00 | znf | "oh, sorry, gotta do a M+15 now" |
| 00:07.11 | Ssateneth | because spriest |
| 00:07.11 | znf | 2nd week in a row I don't get any loot upgrades :D |
| 00:07.54 | Gnarfoz | spriest is good enough in high m+, stuff lives more than long enough |
| 00:08.30 | nevcairiel | i rarely get any upgrades these days, but thats to be expected when you are at the upper spectrum of the content you're doing. not doing mythic raids, and m+ tops out at 870 + weekly chest, so not much to be had there |
| 00:08.40 | znf | yes, but how do I get gear for high M+ if I can't get into the lower ones? :) |
| 00:08.43 | nevcairiel | ToV has some nice pieces, but ToV HC is really hard :p |
| 00:10.39 | Gnarfoz | tell me about it, had a nice evening with Odyn ^^ |
| 00:11.36 | znf | now you guys are making me afraid of that place |
| 00:11.54 | nevcairiel | on normal only helya is a bit complex |
| 00:11.56 | nevcairiel | on heroic... |
| 00:12.23 | nevcairiel | some people say heroic odyn is like cenarius mythic, difficulty wise |
| 00:12.55 | Gnarfoz | the numbers are just insane, from what I've seen so far tonight |
| 00:13.02 | Gnarfoz | or rather, "high" |
| 00:13.16 | Gnarfoz | I'm sure if we cut some of the terribads, we can get further into the fight |
| 00:13.24 | nevcairiel | how far did you get? |
| 00:13.33 | nevcairiel | unfortunately my guild doesnt really cut |
| 00:13.49 | nevcairiel | unless it gets *really* bad |
| 00:14.45 | Ssateneth | world first helya |
| 00:14.55 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: some people say heroic odyn is like cenarius mythic, difficulty wise < naaah |
| 00:15.13 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: cant really say "naah" to that, some people did say that! |
| 00:15.14 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 00:15.25 | Stanzilla | I know 30 people that say otherwise |
| 00:15.52 | Stanzilla | did you see the mythic odyn kill? |
| 00:15.57 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 00:15.59 | Stanzilla | where the boss bugged and didnt do any abilities |
| 00:16.01 | Stanzilla | that was nice |
| 00:16.15 | nevcairiel | way to cheat past it, i guess? :D |
| 00:16.21 | Stanzilla | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77NdFM_1yCA |
| 00:16.22 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 00:16.30 | pompy | reported |
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| 00:18.04 | Gnarfoz | double reported |
| 00:18.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: 71% apparently? in our second pull tonight. that was the best one. terrible xD |
| 00:18.48 | Gnarfoz | wait, that must be WCL being dumb |
| 00:19.03 | nevcairiel | wcl counts percentages rather oddly on such multi-phase fights with d ifferent bosses |
| 00:19.06 | Gnarfoz | that's only 3 minutes long but later tries that are 5 minutes only reach to 85% |
| 00:19.24 | Gnarfoz | yeah. I think the real number is 85%, so only barely into p2 |
| 00:19.50 | nevcairiel | when we started the shield from hyrja basically always fried us at the start of p2 |
| 00:20.07 | nevcairiel | we got past that eventually, but just to die shortly after :p |
| 00:20.39 | nevcairiel | so much individual movement is not good for those casual raiders |
| 00:20.41 | Gnarfoz | I think we were dying to the big AoE because we didn't kill the adds quickly enough |
| 00:21.06 | nevcairiel | thats usually what we die from ultimately, usually caused by some people being dead earlier from random occurances and whatnot |
| 00:21.17 | Gnarfoz | or if we did, then it+some other AoE like horn of valor or spears |
| 00:22.29 | nevcairiel | through some magic we did eventually manage to beat gorefiend mythic, which was quite an accomplishment for our guild, but sometimes it feels just a few months later and everyone forgot the things again we hoped they learned in such a fight :D |
| 00:26.08 | znf | nobody learns shit in WoW |
| 00:28.26 | bshelden | You really need to find a game you hate less. Probably single player. Forever. |
| 00:29.28 | Ssateneth | znf doesn't hate wow |
| 00:29.45 | nevcairiel | znf just hates himself |
| 00:29.45 | bshelden | You dropped a word "just" |
| 00:30.04 | Ssateneth | maybe the stupid people that interfere with his victories |
| 00:30.27 | bshelden | I don't think I've ever seen a positive thing said about other people. Hence suggesting single player. |
| 00:30.42 | Ssateneth | find a way to disbale CRZ |
| 00:30.45 | Ssateneth | disable* |
| 00:30.47 | bshelden | When it's the fault of everybody else... |
| 00:30.50 | Ssateneth | then he can play all on his own |
| 00:30.59 | Ssateneth | and farm all the rare mounts in solitary |
| 00:32.54 | znf | I don't hate the game |
| 00:33.02 | znf | I hate the people playing it! |
| 00:33.19 | bshelden | That 'MMO' part indicates that they are an intended part of the game. |
| 00:38.21 | znf | they need to change that! |
| 00:42.26 | Gnarfoz | there's a different game type for that |
| 00:44.05 | znf | lies |
| 00:49.13 | Ssateneth | just make a game full of znf's |
| 00:58.22 | Gnarfoz | it'll tear itself apart |
| 00:58.52 | znf | what's GEÃFFNET ? |
| 00:59.02 | Stanzilla | opened |
| 00:59.14 | Gnarfoz | no, it's OPENED |
| 00:59.20 | Gnarfoz | :P |
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| 01:08.56 | Simca_ | did they just revert the 910 legendary buff or something? |
| 01:09.12 | Simca_ | mine were showing 910 then i relogged and now they're 895 |
| 01:12.24 | Simca_ | nope, it's back to 910 again |
| 01:12.25 | Simca_ | lol |
| 01:13.37 | Stanzilla | fun cache shenanigans |
| 01:20.14 | relaxok | legendary mage bracers nerfed.. there goes the one good thing i had going for my character |
| 01:20.45 | nebula | new warrior legendary that gives heroic leap a second charge, yes pls |
| 01:21.17 | Gnarfoz | sounds like demon hunter |
| 01:22.24 | nebula | after playing dh i do miss that |
| 01:27.24 | znf | pls more damage? |
| 01:27.27 | znf | give? |
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| 01:30.38 | Gnarfoz | even more? ;p |
| 01:32.47 | Gnarfoz | the new Chain of Thrayn seems quite insane |
| 01:32.58 | Industrial | Anyone here play Diablo 2? |
| 01:33.16 | Thunder_Child | Currently or historically? |
| 01:33.22 | Industrial | If I want a skill higher up the tree, do I need a point in each of the skills pointing to it? |
| 01:33.32 | Industrial | or just the level requirement |
| 01:33.42 | Industrial | (in which case why the arrows on the skill tree..) |
| 01:34.36 | Industrial | I want to make an "Auradin" but I'm not sure what it entails yet. Just messing around in single player. I'm wondering if I need to save up all those skill points for Holy Freeze and Holy Shock until I can use the skills |
| 01:34.58 | Industrial | and not spend them in the mean time |
| 01:35.29 | znf | oh, Diablo 2 |
| 01:35.31 | znf | I was so confused |
| 01:35.57 | xyphoid | yeah d2 builds were all about spending as few skill point as possible until you reached the required level |
| 01:36.18 | xyphoid | in single player i recommend just spending skills as you like and using a trainer to reset them |
| 01:39.43 | Industrial | I can get a full reset? |
| 01:40.04 | Gnarfoz | "trainer" is some weird term to not say "cheat" |
| 01:41.25 | nebula | i mean, they added a way to reset skills in d2 |
| 01:42.01 | znf | they did? |
| 01:42.59 | nebula | yes, the den of evil quest in each difficulty for free, or you could farm bosses and cube the essences as much as you wanted |
| 01:43.55 | nebula | was either added in lod, or shortly before |
| 01:48.00 | xyphoid | huh heat |
| 01:48.02 | xyphoid | neat |
| 01:48.05 | xyphoid | that got added in 2010 |
| 01:48.12 | xyphoid | whch is well after the last time i played D2 |
| 01:48.28 | xyphoid | http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_1.13c_(Diablo_II) |
| 01:49.18 | nebula | oh wow, way after lod came out, lol |
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| 03:51.23 | Semlar | what the fuck are you supposed to do for this kirin'tor quest where you dash through the air |
| 03:51.48 | Semlar | it just despawns me every time i do anything |
| 03:52.11 | Semlar | and i have no idea where it wants me to go |
| 03:53.02 | Semlar | it LOOKS like you're supposed to go over this wall, but when i dash over it i get teleported out |
| 03:56.24 | fewyn | no idea i haven't done that one yet |
| 03:56.46 | Semlar | my current strategy is just dash in random directions until i figure out what doesn't despawn me |
| 04:00.33 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:00.41 | Semlar | evidently not this way |
| 04:01.19 | Semlar | in which case i'm not sure why there's even a crystal to launch you into the air |
| 04:01.31 | Semlar | you can't dash over the wall or over the bridge |
| 04:01.39 | Semlar | so your only path is going under it |
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| 04:11.23 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:20.43 | _Kee | Semlar, this is the bridge near BRH I was talking about :) |
| 04:21.20 | Semlar | i just like that it teleported me out for dashing into the exit |
| 04:21.44 | Semlar | i guess i did it wrong |
| 04:22.24 | Mr_Rabies | <Semlar> https://gfycat.com/TightDifficultHatchetfish perfect |
| 04:22.29 | Mr_Rabies | is this super mario sunshine? |
| 04:23.06 | Semlar | it's confusing is what it is |
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| 04:45.11 | mckenziemc | i can't figure out how to get tr to replace /dev/zero input with binary 10101010 :( |
| 04:45.20 | mckenziemc | it keeps adding extra bytes |
| 04:51.28 | Primer | /dev/zero is just zeros |
| 04:52.38 | mckenziemc | hence tr |
| 04:52.45 | mckenziemc | i need an endless file, for dd |
| 04:53.29 | Thunder_Child | can't you use /dev/null? |
| 04:53.40 | Thunder_Child | That's what I use. |
| 04:53.51 | Thunder_Child | Although it's not endless per se. |
| 05:05.32 | mckenziemc | i think double quotes caused the issue |
| 05:11.31 | mckenziemc | dd if=/dev/zero bs=1M | tr '\0' '\252' | dd of=/dev/<block device here> |
| 05:19.09 | fewyn | i kinda wish there was a way to chart where i make the most gold on the AH |
| 05:19.37 | mckenziemc | there is |
| 05:19.41 | mckenziemc | write an addon |
| 05:19.46 | fewyn | i couuuuuld |
| 05:19.52 | fewyn | but i suck at writing code |
| 05:20.12 | fewyn | i bet i could export the data from TSM and get it into excel to do it tho |
| 05:22.49 | fewyn | http://i.imgur.com/iz6T9lZ.png this is kinda useful |
| 05:29.36 | mckenziemc | Semlar: well, gfycat seems to think you're a tight difficult hatchetfish |
| 05:29.41 | mckenziemc | how's that for confusing? |
| 05:39.19 | Semlar | can any item upgrade up to 910 now |
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| 06:01.18 | Gethe | no |
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| 06:07.29 | mckenziemc | hugs Cairenn. |
| 06:08.13 | Kraps | kat hunter is married to chris metzen? |
| 06:09.22 | nebula | they've been together for like ever |
| 06:09.35 | nebula | think they got married a few years ago |
| 06:40.58 | karl_w_w | hunting cats is bad mmkay |
| 06:41.52 | mckenziemc | hunting karl_w_w is better |
| 06:53.05 | Torhal | TIL mckenziemc is happy with "better than bad." |
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| 08:18.27 | relaxok | hmm my internet went out for 10 min or so.. now its back but bnet isnt |
| 08:20.35 | VIad | znf: kirin tor quests are the best tbh |
| 08:21.11 | znf | The one in suramar today is aida |
| 08:21.17 | znf | Aids |
| 08:23.30 | VIad | is it one of those anti-gavrity bubbles and click a thing? |
| 08:23.45 | VIad | gravity* |
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| 08:32.56 | Shockah|Work | VIad, worse |
| 08:33.15 | Shockah|Work | you're now a demon hunter only capable of dashing |
| 08:33.25 | Shockah|Work | floaty bubbles in the air reset your dash cooldown |
| 08:33.56 | Shockah|Work | and you gotta reach the goal without touching giant flame spheres / energy walls |
| 08:33.59 | Shockah|Work | and without falling |
| 08:34.35 | Shockah|Work | yesterday there was one in Suramar and one in Val'sharah |
| 08:34.56 | Shockah|Work | the Val'sharah one is a lot more complex |
| 08:39.26 | VIad | OMFG sounds amazing, Shockah :D |
| 08:39.29 | VIad | I look forward to it |
| 08:40.11 | Shockah|Work | sounds amazing unless you're a keyboard-turner :P |
| 08:40.14 | VIad | xd |
| 08:40.23 | Shockah|Work | and/or you're lagging |
| 08:40.29 | VIad | explains why znf was so angry about it |
| 08:40.56 | Shockah|Work | i thought they're okay |
| 08:41.03 | Shockah|Work | other than the one time it bugged on me |
| 08:41.09 | Shockah|Work | and didn't teleport me to the beginning when i fell |
| 08:41.13 | Shockah|Work | instead letting me die |
| 08:41.15 | VIad | in europe we got the patch like today, for me literally 3 hours ago :p |
| 08:41.24 | Shockah|Work | yes, but they were up since yesterday |
| 08:41.24 | VIad | but I woke up and went to work so wont be trying it until later :< |
| 08:41.25 | Shockah|Work | in EU |
| 08:41.33 | Shockah|Work | same about the Suramar quest chain |
| 08:41.35 | VIad | I didn't see it on my map really |
| 08:41.36 | znf | My 5th attempt ended in me dying |
| 08:41.49 | VIad | if it rewarded non-AP I kind of only did the AP once before bed |
| 08:41.55 | VIad | didnt have enough time to do everything :p |
| 08:42.06 | znf | Because the server forgot to reset my position while I died |
| 08:42.08 | VIad | Ill look for it specifically ^^ |
| 08:42.26 | znf | It wasn't worth doing that quest for 30minutes for 5k AP |
| 08:42.36 | VIad | kek |
| 08:42.43 | VIad | I did the once rewarding 14-17k AP :d |
| 08:43.11 | VIad | only 10 more AK research to go for max |
| 08:43.39 | znf | There's a ratio of reward / effort |
| 08:44.05 | znf | If it takes more than 5 minutes for less thank 10k AP, it's clearly not worth ut |
| 08:44.06 | znf | It |
| 08:44.27 | Shockah|Work | VIad, one of them did give AP |
| 08:44.39 | Shockah|Work | it's called Like the Wind or something like that |
| 08:44.40 | Shockah|Work | both of them |
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| 08:44.52 | VIad | I skipped the low AP once, didnt realize there were some new Qs :( |
| 08:44.57 | VIad | not to mention kirin tor once |
| 08:45.04 | Shockah|Work | i only realized because my friends told me |
| 08:45.16 | Shockah|Work | (some of them hated it, the others loved it) |
| 08:46.31 | VIad | can make a youtube video "how to" :d |
| 08:46.51 | VIad | step 1. use mouse. step 2. do it. step 3. done. |
| 08:47.30 | Shockah|Work | we'll see how that goes for you :P |
| 08:47.36 | Shockah|Work | i needed 5-10 tries for each |
| 08:47.39 | VIad | :d |
| 08:48.07 | Shockah|Work | + the wait time for resurrection sickness to drop |
| 08:48.14 | Shockah|Work | and to go back to the quest |
| 08:48.28 | Shockah|Work | if i knew i'd die i'd switch to survival first |
| 09:02.46 | VIad | as a DH I dont think I'll manage to die, unless some weird horrible lag |
| 09:03.31 | Shockah|Work | not sure you'll be able to glide |
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| 09:07.15 | Simca_ | Stanzilla or anyone who can, can you kick the packager for https://wow.curseforge.com/addons/wowdb-profiler pls |
| 09:07.27 | Simca_ | i derped and tagged a release too fast |
| 09:09.39 | nevcairiel | done |
| 09:09.57 | nevcairiel | at least the packager behavior is predictable |
| 09:10.01 | nevcairiel | not very nice, but predictable |
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| 09:12.14 | Simca_ | yeah |
| 09:12.21 | Simca_ | thanks much |
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| 09:15.04 | nebula | thought it was switching over like an hour ago |
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| 09:17.56 | nevcairiel | i thought today morning, not today middle of the night |
| 09:18.40 | _Kee | "/use item:139285" can be safely mecroed for extra fireworks every 10s :d |
| 09:24.20 | VIad | hm, I wonder if I can /use item: for toys |
| 09:24.27 | VIad | need to macro the whistle :) |
| 09:24.31 | VIad | in my regular rotation |
| 09:30.37 | Phixion | slaps VIad |
| 09:32.38 | znf | wtf blizzard http://i.imgur.com/HmLopCT.png |
| 09:33.02 | nevcairiel | you should really have more then 2000 life |
| 09:33.17 | znf | I'm level 5! |
| 09:33.28 | nevcairiel | well there is your problem |
| 09:33.30 | nebula | and try not to fight mobs that are 4+ levels above you |
| 09:33.32 | nevcairiel | the hawk was probably higher |
| 09:34.05 | znf | I was in Shrine :-| |
| 09:35.14 | VIad | LOL |
| 09:35.18 | VIad | you dont know about the shrine hawk? |
| 09:35.24 | VIad | been there for years now, blizz dont give AF |
| 09:35.46 | VIad | random high level hawk bugs inside the shrine (there are spawn points above the mountain that bug sometimes) |
| 09:36.06 | VIad | so you get a level 100 something hawk fly in and it will aggro lowbies :p |
| 09:36.23 | nevcairiel | the shrine aint designed for lvl 5s |
| 09:36.43 | VIad | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=59700/northwind-hawk#comments |
| 09:36.57 | VIad | tbh its a bug when these hawks end up inside the temple. they are supposed to be in kunlai, not vale :p |
| 09:37.31 | VIad | its like one of the paths is designed to spawn the hawk and make it clip trough the walls so it flies a circle in the shrine |
| 09:37.36 | VIad | alliance place dont have this problem |
| 09:37.46 | nevcairiel | and lvl 5 are designed to be in stormwind, not the shrine |
| 09:37.48 | nevcairiel | what can you do |
| 09:38.28 | VIad | irrelevant. the hawk itself is spawned wrongly and has a buggy flight path that clips trough the mountains. |
| 09:38.46 | VIad | the fact lowbies are dying is because of the npc spawn being bugged in the first place. |
| 09:40.09 | Constie | Why do you even have a lowbie there? |
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| 09:40.58 | Shockah|Work | possibly so he doesn't have to worry how to get anywhere when he actually starts levelling the char |
| 09:41.37 | nevcairiel | some people park bank alts there for obscure reasons, but it doesnt even have an AH so not sure why |
| 09:41.49 | Shockah|Work | it does have an AH for engineers |
| 09:41.58 | VIad | learn 1/300 engineering ;p fixed |
| 09:42.25 | nevcairiel | its still not any better then just using stormwind or whatever horde city is favorable |
| 09:42.35 | VIad | I parked mine in new dalaran |
| 09:42.40 | VIad | because I am cool |
| 09:52.21 | znf | oh |
| 09:52.24 | znf | there's ToV lfr! |
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| 09:58.19 | nevcairiel | which you will likely wipe in |
| 09:58.49 | znf | ...what the fuck |
| 09:58.56 | znf | I joined arena skirmishes with a friend |
| 09:59.00 | znf | we raped the rogue |
| 09:59.08 | znf | our games pretty much crashed then |
| 09:59.26 | znf | like, it was stuck |
| 09:59.34 | znf | oh, now he went offline |
| 09:59.59 | znf | also, I love doing this quest in 1 go http://i.imgur.com/aUxLesm.png |
| 09:59.59 | znf | :D |
| 10:06.11 | VIad | at least there some things you love about the game :p |
| 10:09.19 | VIad | I remember back in the day, if you sent mail to someone, then ignored them, before opening the mail, this would happen :D http://ss.bool.no/capture_1479290953.png |
| 10:10.23 | VIad | they fixed that back then, but I still wondered what the data was. I mean, probably something in memory right? but client side, or server? |
| 10:22.06 | VIad | Simca_: the live vs 7.1.5 screenshot of the legendary neck is the same ilvl :p |
| 10:22.24 | VIad | or I guess you meant live as in right now, after the ilvl boost :p |
| 10:22.56 | VIad | btw the neck becomes insanely OP compared to the old one now |
| 10:23.02 | VIad | 15>30% of max hp omg |
| 10:24.20 | VIad | the DH shoulders quickly became BIS, I mean, each metamorph gives one charge of demon spikes, jesus :p |
| 10:25.14 | VIad | omg archimonde infinite command much op |
| 10:25.24 | VIad | 50% of max hp shield ,_, done s aoe dmg jesus |
| 10:27.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Elmoe (~Elmoe@24.18.131.251) |
| 10:28.12 | VIad | fiery brand heals 150% of dmg done, and each enemy hit by sigil of flame increases the dmg of the next fiery brand by 20% stacking up to 15 times - if that buff can be refreshed, oh jesus, 300% dmg fiery brand ;d that will hurt a lot and heal awesomely |
| 10:38.55 | Constie | Did people start complaining about legendaries now being too good instead yet? |
| 10:43.12 | VIad | well, considering game has like 100 legendaries now and most people dont even have 1 :p |
| 10:43.26 | VIad | I suspect blizz adding some guaranteed to drop once per month type mechanics |
| 10:43.54 | VIad | idea is good: pick and chose to equip 2 legendaries to modify playstyle based on content |
| 10:44.02 | nebula | they said 7.2 basically gives you one if you don't have one already |
| 10:44.12 | VIad | just getting the arsenal is tricky as its pure rng :d |
| 10:44.42 | VIad | step 1. delete all legendaries step 2. login 7.2 and get free one. step 3. restore items. |
| 10:44.59 | nebula | yea, i'm sure that would totally fool the system |
| 10:45.10 | VIad | if the system scans bags it would ;d |
| 10:45.22 | VIad | I am sure someone will try that and check if it works |
| 10:52.13 | znf | wee hentai |
| 10:52.14 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/IT9dDD1.png |
| 10:53.37 | VIad | al naibi hentai bible black |
| 10:54.18 | VIad | remember to repair btw |
| 10:54.42 | VIad | also something in your class hall is ready |
| 10:55.24 | znf | "meh" |
| 10:57.27 | VIad | hope blizz bans everyone that exploit the mythic odyn exploit :p |
| 10:57.49 | VIad | seems you can pull him and wipe enough times, and he stops using mechanics. making it a patchwerk fight, no mechanics. |
| 10:58.21 | znf | lol |
| 10:58.42 | VIad | apparently people are abusing this for free 890 loot |
| 10:58.54 | VIad | someone said you dont need to wipe more than 5 times to him to bug |
| 11:00.54 | znf | it's kidn of crappy |
| 11:01.00 | znf | what if you legit wipe many times on it? |
| 11:01.03 | znf | what are you supposed to do? |
| 11:01.09 | VIad | go out and reset instance ;d |
| 11:01.37 | nevcairiel | they'll try to fix it as soon as possible, no doubt |
| 11:01.46 | VIad | but what about those that abused it? |
| 11:01.53 | VIad | just ignore them and move on? |
| 11:02.07 | nevcairiel | thats between blizzard and them, doesnt affect you or me :p |
| 11:02.23 | VIad | it does if I go online today and tell my guild, hey guys, there is a free loot bug on odyn this week! |
| 11:02.37 | VIad | then we do it and blizz dont give af to fix it because it might have been legit wipes as znf said |
| 11:02.44 | VIad | then we just get loot and are happy |
| 11:02.55 | VIad | ^ probably a scenario everyone exploiting will use :p |
| 11:03.08 | VIad | blame it on "it just bugged after legit wipes" |
| 11:03.22 | VIad | and hope blizz dont take away the gear or ban |
| 11:03.28 | *** join/#wowuidev LexSfX (LexSfX@216-71-194-85.dyn.novuscom.net) |
| 11:04.01 | mitch0 | yay, there's a chance they'll get rid of DST here \o/ |
| 11:04.08 | VIad | dst? |
| 11:04.13 | mitch0 | daylight saving time |
| 11:04.14 | znf | "dps distant" heh french |
| 11:04.22 | znf | mitch0, nice |
| 11:04.31 | VIad | here? |
| 11:04.35 | mitch0 | .hu |
| 11:04.40 | VIad | I mean when you are on the internet you need to be a bit more specific :p |
| 11:04.45 | mitch0 | we'll stick with summer time |
| 11:04.52 | mitch0 | \o/ |
| 11:04.53 | VIad | .hu? |
| 11:04.57 | Shockah|Work | Hungary |
| 11:04.58 | mitch0 | hungary you dumb |
| 11:05.05 | Shockah|Work | wish Poland would do the same |
| 11:05.11 | VIad | yes sorry, as a norwegian I should go to more polish and hungarian websites |
| 11:05.14 | VIad | what was I thinking |
| 11:05.20 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 11:05.24 | VIad | news.hu all day baby |
| 11:05.28 | mitch0 | ;) |
| 11:05.30 | VIad | if I only could read it ofc |
| 11:05.37 | nevcairiel | you dont have to go there to know the country codes |
| 11:06.02 | VIad | .bg? .dk? .fi? .sex? .blog? .social? |
| 11:06.20 | mitch0 | Shockah|Work: I think there's a chance more countries will follow, then everyone will get rid of it |
| 11:06.24 | VIad | last three are the stupid new trends ofc :p |
| 11:06.26 | mitch0 | it's stupid shit ayway |
| 11:06.30 | Shockah|Work | ^ |
| 11:06.31 | nevcairiel | the first 3 are obvious, the last three arent countries :p |
| 11:06.42 | VIad | what are they nev? :d |
| 11:06.45 | nevcairiel | mitch0: one thing to note, the "normal" time is winter time, not summer time |
| 11:06.45 | VIad | without looking it up ofc |
| 11:06.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Andols2 (~yaaic@m77-218-229-178.cust.tele2.se) |
| 11:06.54 | nevcairiel | bulgaria, denmark, finland |
| 11:07.08 | mitch0 | nevcairiel: yeah, used to be. now nobody really cares about "proper" noon |
| 11:07.13 | VIad | what about .ro? |
| 11:07.13 | mitch0 | so we'll just stick to summer time |
| 11:07.31 | nevcairiel | romania |
| 11:07.39 | mitch0 | land of the znf |
| 11:07.46 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 11:08.02 | Shockah|Work | .moe |
| 11:08.30 | VIad | tbh it would be easier saying "they might remove daylight saving time in hungary" and no one would be confused :p |
| 11:08.45 | VIad | unless you didn't know the country or what daylight saving is |
| 11:08.45 | nevcairiel | only you where confused, so thats fine :p |
| 11:08.59 | VIad | I am sure more were, they just dont give AF |
| 11:09.18 | mitch0 | and where would be this nice discussion then, huh? |
| 11:09.22 | znf | can not confirm |
| 11:09.24 | znf | was not confused |
| 11:09.30 | VIad | exactly. I gave AF :p |
| 11:10.50 | VIad | btw regarding TLD why the fuck does ".co.uk" exist? |
| 11:10.55 | mitch0 | apparently .hr (Croatia for the dumb) also wants to get rid of DST |
| 11:10.55 | VIad | when they already have .uk to begin with |
| 11:11.16 | VIad | to be fair, .hr and croatia dont even share letters >_> |
| 11:11.45 | VIad | I thought hercegovina when you wrote .hr |
| 11:11.54 | mitch0 | VIad: .co.uk is the .com of the uk |
| 11:12.17 | VIad | its retarded, should have made it like .ukcom or some shit, not mix in more dots :p |
| 11:12.25 | VIad | domain.suffix |
| 11:12.35 | nevcairiel | countries get one tld, and thats .uk |
| 11:12.41 | nevcairiel | how they sub-structure it is up to them |
| 11:13.00 | VIad | .co.uk looks like co is the domain |
| 11:13.09 | VIad | news.co.uk news = sub, co = domain, uk = nationality |
| 11:13.30 | nevcairiel | they also have some others, like org.uk, me.uk, net.uk and more |
| 11:13.34 | VIad | jesus |
| 11:13.44 | VIad | glhf making a valid domain parser with these rules |
| 11:13.56 | mitch0 | ??? |
| 11:14.17 | VIad | like if you wanna parse the url to extract subdomain, domain and such, need like a ton of exceptions :p |
| 11:14.20 | nevcairiel | dont mind VIad, he is just questioning his inadequacy |
| 11:14.50 | VIad | you need to code a url parser with a ton of exceptions for it to manage stuff like "http://www.news.co.uk" |
| 11:14.59 | mitch0 | why would you? |
| 11:15.00 | nevcairiel | why would you care what part is what |
| 11:15.02 | mitch0 | oh, I'm out |
| 11:15.04 | nevcairiel | its not relevant |
| 11:15.48 | VIad | they made the domain system and made it fucked up by not even following a standard so its easy to see what is domain, what is the TLD part |
| 11:15.59 | nevcairiel | there is no standard :p |
| 11:16.06 | VIad | obviously |
| 11:16.32 | VIad | there is a pseudostandard where most sane people use a TLD without any dots in it :p |
| 11:16.47 | nevcairiel | the tld is just .uk, there are no dots in it |
| 11:16.57 | nevcairiel | .co.uk is a second level domain |
| 11:16.59 | VIad | yeah, but then they had to create .special.uk |
| 11:17.03 | nevcairiel | and google.co.uk is a third level |
| 11:17.25 | VIad | not making it any easier teaching a program to understand those |
| 11:17.36 | nevcairiel | if your program needs to, its already a failure |
| 11:18.00 | mitch0 | ^ |
| 11:18.01 | VIad | if you need to extract a specific part of the url, or display the url in another way you need to break it down |
| 11:18.13 | nevcairiel | but you dont need to |
| 11:18.35 | VIad | that doesnt mean the TLD system is inherently flawed by lacking any sort of standards |
| 11:18.41 | VIad | isnt* |
| 11:18.53 | nevcairiel | there is standards, just not one that does what you want it to do |
| 11:18.59 | Shockah|Work | hmm |
| 11:18.59 | Shockah|Work | we have com.pl here |
| 11:18.59 | Shockah|Work | as in .com.pl |
| 11:18.59 | Shockah|Work | i didn't see it being used in years though |
| 11:19.01 | mitch0 | what I want is an official reserved tld for home use (like .home) |
| 11:19.11 | nevcairiel | it gives TLD management the freedom to cater to their needs |
| 11:19.12 | VIad | like car license plates, you should be able to quickly get a hold what it is without knowing the contents of the TLD |
| 11:19.22 | nevcairiel | and not be pigeonholed into some global standard some guy dreamed up |
| 11:19.42 | VIad | why do you need stuff like news.co.uk isnt news.uk good enough? |
| 11:19.58 | VIad | considering most people dont use these lower level domains anyways, not that I've seen :p |
| 11:20.18 | nevcairiel | mitch0: thats .local |
| 11:20.22 | mitch0 | no, that's not |
| 11:20.29 | mitch0 | there's something fishy with .local |
| 11:20.45 | mitch0 | (probably MS screwing with it, don't remember exactly) |
| 11:20.53 | VIad | .localhost is reserved, but not .local |
| 11:21.13 | VIad | ah nvm they added .local too |
| 11:21.14 | mitch0 | or just MS and unixes not agreeing on .local. something like that. |
| 11:21.36 | nevcairiel | whatever standard soemone defines doiesnt guarantee its tracked by every single implementation |
| 11:21.44 | nevcairiel | fact is, there are rfcs that specify .local |
| 11:21.47 | nevcairiel | as reserved |
| 11:21.49 | mitch0 | I remember diggin this up 2-3 years ago when setting up the home net |
| 11:22.01 | nevcairiel | i just use one of my internet domains |
| 11:22.02 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:22.24 | mitch0 | he Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) standards-track RFC 6762 (February 20, 2013) reserves the use of the domain name label local as a pseudo-top-level domain for hostnames in local area networks that can be resolved via the Multicast DNS name resolution protocol |
| 11:22.34 | mitch0 | that's not what I want to use it for... |
| 11:22.39 | mitch0 | (hence I want .home) |
| 11:22.59 | VIad | I dont see why "a TLD might not contain punctuations" is such a horrible global standard thing? |
| 11:23.10 | nevcairiel | because it doesnt |
| 11:23.14 | nevcairiel | the tld is .uk |
| 11:23.40 | nevcairiel | and the people managing .uk decided to sub-structure it, its their choice, but that doesnt change the tld |
| 11:23.44 | VIad | I suggest let's move to using # |
| 11:23.49 | VIad | news.uk#co |
| 11:23.52 | VIad | :p |
| 11:23.56 | VIad | modernized |
| 11:24.01 | VIad | instead of news.co.uk |
| 11:24.02 | nevcairiel | (also since 2014 or so, you can register domains directly under .uk as well) |
| 11:25.17 | VIad | in norway you need a norwegian company to register .no |
| 11:26.08 | VIad | but anyone kind kind of make one anyway, so not a huge deal, but helps avoid anyone from making one, like .com |
| 11:26.12 | mitch0 | apparently .home was also not the best choice for me... some bastards want to buy it for commercial purposes |
| 11:26.40 | nevcairiel | using unregistered tlds is always a bad choice |
| 11:26.52 | nevcairiel | you never know whats going to happen to it |
| 11:27.06 | VIad | how can they buy it if you bought it first? |
| 11:27.07 | mitch0 | yeah, that's why I want an official reserved one for home use (that's not fscked up with vendor specific handling) |
| 11:27.08 | VIad | like blackmail? |
| 11:27.18 | mitch0 | VIad: obviously I didn't buy it... |
| 11:27.29 | nevcairiel | mitch0: but vendors need to implement it, so good luck with them not doing something weird :p |
| 11:27.30 | VIad | sounded like you chose .home :p |
| 11:27.38 | nevcairiel | reserving it doesnt make it magically work :D |
| 11:27.47 | mitch0 | nevcairiel: no, they don't have to implement anything |
| 11:28.11 | mitch0 | I'll just add the .home tld into my home dns and done |
| 11:28.16 | mitch0 | nothing vendor specific there |
| 11:28.33 | mitch0 | (and of course name my machines pc.home, printer.home, etc) |
| 11:28.42 | nevcairiel | of course they do, you wouldnt want such queries hitting the global dns servers all the time, w ith the possibility if some rogue one returning bogus info |
| 11:29.00 | mitch0 | (actually, pc.mystreet.home or something so if I ever have two "sites" it wouldn't be an issue) |
| 11:29.15 | mitch0 | well, yeah, that part yes |
| 11:29.15 | nevcairiel | in any case just register a domain :p |
| 11:29.21 | mitch0 | but it's hard to screw that up.. |
| 11:29.33 | VIad | mitch0.home |
| 11:29.34 | nevcairiel | or just use local, it works fine for such purposes |
| 11:29.53 | mitch0 | no it doesn't. apple + ms + linux + zeroconf tends to screw it up |
| 11:30.20 | nevcairiel | you sounded like you are mostly assuming that |
| 11:30.35 | mitch0 | no, I read about issues on teh internetz |
| 11:30.42 | nevcairiel | thats the same as assuming |
| 11:30.43 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 11:31.04 | VIad | not all assumptions are equal |
| 11:31.30 | VIad | if he read a thousand google results that all complain about that issue, probably a valid assumption |
| 11:31.49 | VIad | if he got one result about why there are reptilians in his router monitoring his traffic, probably not true |
| 11:32.18 | VIad | or there is only one result because they are monitoring everyones trafficand purging out the content they dont want you to see /tinfoil |
| 11:32.32 | VIad | maybe its like bait and placed on purpose /tinfoilontinfoil |
| 11:35.00 | VIad | I like bluspacecow timezone, like 12 hours a head LOL |
| 11:38.06 | Shockah|Work | oh great, Pitbull is completely broken now |
| 11:38.20 | Shockah|Work | all my unit frames are invisible |
| 11:38.29 | VIad | what did you do? |
| 11:38.34 | Shockah|Work | just updated |
| 11:38.34 | VIad | updated it? |
| 11:38.36 | Shockah|Work | yes |
| 11:38.46 | nebula | that's awkward, is there some error? |
| 11:38.50 | Shockah|Work | apparently all the modules were merged together to the main addon |
| 11:38.54 | Shockah|Work | none at all |
| 11:38.57 | nebula | i've run it like that for years |
| 11:39.01 | VIad | werd, I dont see a pitbull update on curse |
| 11:39.02 | Shockah|Work | it didn't disable the Blizzard frames either |
| 11:39.12 | VIad | and for me it worked fine yesterday |
| 11:39.31 | VIad | you sure you didnt install a wrong version? |
| 11:39.38 | VIad | mine has modules in the addon list I can disable :p |
| 11:39.42 | Shockah|Work | downloading the beta now instead of alpha, we'll see |
| 11:39.48 | VIad | lol alpha, yeah |
| 11:40.13 | VIad | I prefer the updater to not install alpha so I have to do it manually |
| 11:40.17 | nevcairiel | if you just updated, make sure to restart the game :p |
| 11:40.29 | Shockah|Work | i do restart the game when installing updates |
| 11:40.31 | Shockah|Work | usually |
| 11:40.42 | Shockah|Work | works just fine on beta |
| 11:40.54 | nebula | i haven't tagged a beta in a long time |
| 11:41.08 | nebula | so it's just the last release |
| 11:41.09 | Shockah|Work | inb4 another stupid OSX issue |
| 11:41.12 | Shockah|Work | OSX-specific |
| 11:41.19 | Shockah|Work | WeakAuras has one of these |
| 11:41.24 | VIad | I am running 4.0.11 from 26 oct :p |
| 11:42.20 | znf | stupid dwarf and his barrely quest |
| 11:43.03 | VIad | seems like kyle buller wanted to get rid of the modules and just have it baked in the main addon :p |
| 11:43.13 | VIad | tbh I liked to like completely disable modules in the addon list |
| 11:43.19 | Shockah|Work | ^ |
| 11:43.20 | VIad | like 100% sure it wouldnt load that shit |
| 11:43.32 | nebula | there has always been toggles in the options |
| 11:43.43 | VIad | I've had errors from modules loading |
| 11:43.50 | VIad | even if I disable them in the configs |
| 11:44.03 | VIad | not running the code overall just improves stability imo :p |
| 11:44.08 | VIad | if you dont need them in the first place |
| 11:44.19 | VIad | I guess it's time to edit the toc/xml to not load the modules :p |
| 11:44.27 | nebula | do whatever you like |
| 11:44.40 | VIad | I dont see why this change helps anything |
| 11:44.59 | VIad | its just easier to disable stuff in addon list anyway |
| 11:45.04 | nevcairiel | LOD modules dont help anything, they just make everything complex |
| 11:45.16 | nevcairiel | its easier to disable stuff in the config of the addon where you setup the thing anyway =p |
| 11:45.32 | VIad | the addon is already designed to use a plugin system |
| 11:45.41 | nebula | i really don't give a shit |
| 11:46.04 | VIad | I mean, just removing them from the addon list doesnt change how its internally handled :p |
| 11:46.12 | VIad | it just loads them as if they are all selected to load on the addon list |
| 11:46.44 | nebula | like nothing is run if the module is disabled |
| 11:47.23 | Shockah|Work | yay |
| 11:47.25 | Shockah|Work | my 2nd legendary |
| 11:47.30 | Shockah|Work | 2nd time from a mythic+ weekly chest |
| 11:47.32 | VIad | back in like cataclysm I remember it erroring stuff in the module even if it was disabled, its then I started to disable stuff like holy power or totem bar when I dont even play that class, from the addon list :d |
| 11:47.45 | VIad | ah gz! I got my 3rd from the weekly chest, rest from heroic bosses :p |
| 11:47.52 | VIad | heroic dungeon queue that is |
| 11:47.58 | Shockah|Work | i barely have time to do anything in WoW |
| 11:48.17 | VIad | if you need a tank for some boosts just say so |
| 11:48.37 | Shockah|Work | usually just raid 3 times a week 2h each + 1 mythic+ (+4-6), + maybe the weekly quest |
| 11:48.37 | Shockah|Work | and emissaries every day |
| 11:48.37 | Shockah|Work | nothing else |
| 11:48.49 | Shockah|Work | ally? |
| 11:49.00 | VIad | yes alliance |
| 11:49.05 | Shockah|Work | good good |
| 11:49.31 | VIad | I usually have my own guild groups but we have spots sometimes :p |
| 11:49.51 | VIad | I dont see you on the battletag spreadsheet |
| 11:50.04 | Shockah|Work | will add myself there later |
| 11:50.17 | Shockah|Work | on my 1h break at work right now, gotta do those emissaries |
| 11:50.17 | *** join/#wowuidev Andols (~yaaic@193.10.192.162) |
| 11:50.24 | VIad | lol |
| 11:50.40 | VIad | I dont have wow anywhere else than my gaming pc at home |
| 11:50.50 | VIad | at best I can login via remote desktop with glorious 5 fps :p |
| 11:51.05 | VIad | maybe click some buttons, like loot the chest :p |
| 11:51.06 | Shockah|Work | i used to do that |
| 11:51.08 | Shockah|Work | back when WoD launched |
| 11:51.15 | Shockah|Work | for those sweet garrison missions |
| 11:51.16 | VIad | garrison addiction? |
| 11:51.21 | Shockah|Work | it was like the first 2 weeks |
| 11:51.24 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 11:51.28 | VIad | I often manage to like, dont give AF about such things |
| 11:51.37 | VIad | dont want a game to affect my work life :p |
| 11:52.13 | VIad | so I limit myself to game at home only, extremely rarely I really need to login from work anyways, and imo the game shouldnt require that either from the players |
| 11:52.26 | VIad | in that way the app on the phone is a good thing :) |
| 11:52.41 | nevcairiel | the game requires nothing, its all in the players heads |
| 11:52.54 | Shockah|Work | i work 40h a week + do college on the weekends |
| 11:53.14 | Shockah|Work | so the 1h at work to do emissaries is really great |
| 11:53.24 | Shockah|Work | it's supposed to be a dinner break |
| 11:53.33 | Shockah|Work | but whatever lol |
| 11:53.49 | znf | this quest is annoying http://i.imgur.com/UgP6EE7.png |
| 11:54.02 | znf | is there anything I'm missing? |
| 11:54.09 | znf | like, is there a way to call the challengers faster? |
| 11:54.43 | nevcairiel | if you arrive in the middle of someone elses cycle, remember to use the horn again |
| 11:54.53 | nevcairiel | otherwise, they usually come up pretty fast after the previous was defeated |
| 11:55.28 | znf | someone used the horn on the previous mon |
| 11:55.30 | znf | mob |
| 11:55.39 | VIad | well you are calling me slow and a noob for not having my AK up to the highest level possible, because I took thing relaxed and did stuff when I could, instead of doing stuff from like work :p |
| 11:55.42 | znf | now we had to use it again |
| 11:55.44 | znf | this is weird |
| 11:56.01 | VIad | so sure its in the players heards, but still some pressure to keep up when going end game content, or you fall behind and dont get in :p |
| 11:56.10 | nevcairiel | you can do AK from the phone now, so thats no excuse :p |
| 11:56.58 | VIad | I am not a phone gremlin so I am not on it that much |
| 11:57.05 | VIad | like, on transit I read some news |
| 11:57.13 | VIad | otherwise it stays on the side for calls :p |
| 11:57.24 | VIad | rarely I even remember to login the app to check missions |
| 11:57.34 | nevcairiel | besides you have at best 10 days to pickup AK (at worst 5), if you cant bother to login for that time xD |
| 11:57.49 | Constie | I like how you say it's annoying and then try to find out if there's anything you're missing. |
| 11:58.55 | VIad | I am only 3 days delayed, as you said its just a queue :p |
| 11:59.10 | VIad | just didnt rush as many others did when leveling |
| 11:59.58 | znf | VIad is weak |
| 12:00.07 | znf | nevcairiel, it stays in the bag |
| 12:00.09 | znf | in the container |
| 12:00.19 | znf | if you pick it up from your phone, that is |
| 12:00.52 | nevcairiel | as long as you can start new work orders and the item isnt lost, it makes no difference where its stored |
| 12:01.33 | nevcairiel | in any case by the end of the year most half-serious players should reach 34/35 on a primary weapon, at which point advances in artifact level are very low |
| 12:02.22 | VIad | most regular players are around 20 though |
| 12:02.30 | VIad | talking about the normal people :p |
| 12:02.43 | nevcairiel | if you are 20 and played from launch, you didnt really play much at all |
| 12:02.56 | nevcairiel | just from the AK alone i can probably reach 20 on a new weapon from one days WQs |
| 12:03.18 | VIad | AK should be account wide |
| 12:03.21 | VIad | and share timer |
| 12:03.32 | nevcairiel | nah its fine how it is |
| 12:03.33 | VIad | why? alt friendly |
| 12:03.48 | nevcairiel | there already is a catch up mechanism, which they are making even easier on 7.1.5 |
| 12:04.52 | VIad | still though, I bet if I log my alt it will take a month of AK farm to get on this level as my main :p |
| 12:05.02 | nevcairiel | and it should |
| 12:05.27 | nevcairiel | you farmed 2.5 month now on your main, getting there in one month on another char is already much faster |
| 12:05.41 | VIad | I mean just the AK level alone |
| 12:06.37 | nevcairiel | in any case with 7.1.5 you can just buy the first 10 levels of AK or so, which makes catching up alts to reasonable levels (2 dragons, 3 for many classes) very fast |
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| 12:10.23 | VIad | oh nice :) |
| 12:10.37 | VIad | why not let you buy the same a mount of AK as your highest? |
| 12:11.09 | VIad | maybe thats for 7.2.5 |
| 12:11.46 | VIad | wow we are already closing it to the end of the expansion :p |
| 12:11.50 | nevcairiel | because alts should not instantly reach the same point as your character that worked on it for months |
| 12:11.51 | VIad | 7.2 in january |
| 12:11.57 | nevcairiel | 7.2 is not in january |
| 12:12.08 | nevcairiel | nighthold is in january |
| 12:12.13 | VIad | ah ok |
| 12:12.14 | nevcairiel | 7.2 is more like ~march |
| 12:12.17 | nevcairiel | maybe april |
| 12:12.22 | VIad | so a year from now 7.3 |
| 12:12.23 | nevcairiel | we'll see |
| 12:12.30 | VIad | and then wait for next expansion |
| 12:12.40 | nevcairiel | could always be a 7.4 |
| 12:12.41 | VIad | sargeras farming until 2019 :p |
| 12:12.50 | VIad | could but I dunno :p |
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| 12:20.47 | znf | the Suramar weekly quests have a catch-up, right? |
| 12:20.53 | znf | I mean, if I skip a week, next week I get 2 steps? |
| 12:21.30 | Shockah|Work | i think so |
| 12:21.44 | Constie | Yes. |
| 12:21.53 | znf | that 10 WQs quest is part of the progress, it seems |
| 12:21.58 | znf | I didn't get this weeks' quest |
| 12:22.09 | Constie | Yes. |
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| 13:32.34 | mitch0 | funny, just bought Stranger In a Strange Land, and the next /. headline is that it's coming to TV |
| 13:32.48 | mitch0 | (just == half an hour ago) |
| 13:42.53 | Gnarfoz | Don't be a stranger, mitch0 |
| 13:44.49 | mitch0 | -_-_-_- |
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| 14:00.29 | Semlar | hunter confirmed ruined on the ptr |
| 14:01.33 | Semlar | they've completely changed how marksmanship works |
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| 14:04.17 | nevcairiel | that by itself is not necessarily a bad thing |
| 14:04.23 | Semlar | sidewinders now only restores 35 focus and doesn't apply the vulnerable debuff |
| 14:04.58 | Semlar | sidewinders being able to apply vulnerable is a huge part of the spec right now |
| 14:05.41 | foxlit | DELETE FROM characters WHERE class = "HUNTER" time. |
| 14:05.46 | Semlar | this is currently a huge nerf to their aoe damage, and they're going to do even less single target damage than they do now, so i'm expecting some tweaks |
| 14:06.43 | Shockah|Work | BM hunters are still kicking |
| 14:07.35 | nevcairiel | sidewinders is also mandatory, so it being brought down should not come as much of a surprise |
| 14:07.56 | Semlar | it's basically PART of the spec and should have been replaced as a talent |
| 14:08.15 | Semlar | not nerfed |
| 14:08.39 | Semlar | to make the other talents more appealing |
| 14:08.48 | foxlit | yawn. |
| 14:09.48 | foxlit | they could make it baseline and then nerf all your other dps numbers. |
| 14:09.56 | foxlit | would that make people happier? |
| 14:09.59 | Semlar | no |
| 14:10.05 | Semlar | because hunters don't need a damage nerf |
| 14:10.14 | Semlar | they already underperform in single target |
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| 14:11.42 | Kraps | https://twitter.com/magemanu/status/798832187868971012 |
| 14:11.47 | Constie | It seems like Mind Sear is being removed, which is kind of wild. |
| 14:12.35 | foxlit | Semlar: the silly answer is "everyone needs a damage nerf" |
| 14:12.57 | Semlar | everyone but me |
| 14:14.14 | Constie | Shadow damage is being reduced, as expected, but in a way that's kind of annoying because it means I have to test and see how long I can stay alive with Surrender to Madness under various conditions again. |
| 14:14.25 | foxlit | the non-silly series of questions is 'what does underperform mean? Against what? By how much? In what circumstances? Do those circumstances occur often? Are there situations where you overperform? Do those situations occur often?' |
| 14:14.45 | Semlar | i don't know because i actually outdamage everyone all the time but that's clearly because i'm better than they are |
| 14:15.07 | Constie | Or maybe the eggheads will discover that StM isn't the best talent in that tier anymore so I won't have to. That'd be nice. |
| 14:15.21 | Semlar | i had an enhancement shaman outdamage me on guarm though |
| 14:16.21 | Kraps | Constie: i always thought Mind Sear was weird and dumb |
| 14:16.50 | Semlar | now i have to actually relearn my spec |
| 14:17.15 | Semlar | which is fine, but only if i'm getting a buff |
| 14:18.16 | foxlit | sge is mildly scary when you're running your own code :( |
| 14:18.18 | Constie | Mind Sear has always been kind of awkward. It only really exists because tab-DoTing is too slow sometimes. |
| 14:18.24 | Semlar | can i get a glyph to reskin murder of crows to a flock of sea gulls |
| 14:18.36 | Shockah|Work | YES PLEASE |
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| 14:18.40 | Shockah|Work | me too |
| 14:18.50 | foxlit | "hello, I'd like 256GB of RAM and 256 CPU cores for a few hours. Thanks." |
| 14:26.50 | Semlar | you literally can't do aoe damage as a marks hunter without sidewinders due to how marked shot works, so it really needs to be made baseline |
| 14:27.12 | Semlar | or they need to make multishot apply hunter's mark or something |
| 14:27.15 | foxlit | I take it barrage is just a pulling tool and does no actual damage. |
| 14:27.41 | Semlar | barrage is okay, but it has a 20 second cooldown and you can't use it in a lot of areas |
| 14:27.54 | Semlar | in general it's a very small portion of your aoe damage, like 15% |
| 14:28.06 | Semlar | and marked shot is like 50%+ |
| 14:28.51 | Semlar | it's also a talent |
| 14:29.43 | Semlar | if you don't have sidewinders, you can't apply hunter's mark to a group of targets, which means you can't use marked shot on them |
| 14:30.03 | Semlar | which basically makes sidewinders mandatory, regardless of whether it even did damage |
| 14:30.55 | Semlar | unless you're in a mostly single target fight, i guess |
| 14:36.37 | Constie | I assume the change happened years ago and I just didn't notice, but I like how if you right-click a trinket or ring now it seems to switch it with the one you have equipped with the lowest item level. |
| 14:42.27 | Semlar | it looks like we also lost 5% crit for some reason |
| 14:43.13 | Constie | You'll just have to be luckier to compensate. |
| 14:45.58 | nevcairiel | i think they reduced baseline crit for most classes |
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| 15:22.38 | Gnarfoz | taking bets on Blizzard taking action against people abusing the broken AP WQ in Suramar |
| 15:22.54 | Ressy | AP WQ in Suramar? |
| 15:23.11 | foxlit | tell us more about them exploits. |
| 15:23.28 | Constie | What they should let you do on your alts is to skip Valsharah leveling if you've already cleared EN. I've resolved this storyline already. I should be able to just press a button and get a couple of levels and a bunch of rep. |
| 15:23.48 | Gnarfoz | it just re-pops instantly, you can repeat it forever |
| 15:24.11 | Gnarfoz | 10300 AP x however many times you dare :P |
| 15:24.28 | Semlar | how long does it take |
| 15:24.49 | Gnarfoz | no idea, I'm not home, yet |
| 15:25.00 | Gnarfoz | kill 10 guys and 1 other guy |
| 15:26.15 | Ressy | You might be bugged then... Cuz I didn't see that last night. |
| 15:29.47 | Gnarfoz | I'm not talking about last night |
| 15:29.57 | Gnarfoz | and you're not in the same region, so WQs are different anyway |
| 15:30.12 | Ressy | I had that one last night. :P |
| 15:30.45 | Gnarfoz | I also said I'm not home, but hey |
| 15:31.27 | Gnarfoz | wonder if one can fit roughly 4854 completions of it into the timeframe between now and when they fix it |
| 15:31.29 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 15:32.15 | Phixion | :) |
| 15:33.59 | Gnarfoz | in other news, after our proto-hipster contractor left last week, who basically introduced git and Slack here, or made it fashionable, we now apparently don't have proper access to our github org or the Slack team he started |
| 15:34.11 | Gnarfoz | good job, it's not like I warned against this repeatedly. :P |
| 15:34.51 | Gnarfoz | also, we now have a slack team with our company name instead of a "funny haha" name he picked; but guess who the "primary owner" (highest privilege level) is? another contractor |
| 15:35.01 | Semlar | i think they might notice you completing the same world quest four thousand times |
| 15:35.23 | Gnarfoz | that's what they WANT you to think |
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| 15:37.34 | Alram | i recall this happening in the past |
| 15:37.37 | Alram | and people getting rekt |
| 15:37.52 | Gnarfoz | repeatable WQs or something else? |
| 15:38.08 | Alram | not a WQ but it was repeatable |
| 15:38.22 | Gnarfoz | (and of course, anyone who takes advantage of such things should be aware of being in no-no territory) |
| 15:38.26 | Alram | people definitely got ricketyrekt |
| 15:38.48 | Gnarfoz | but Blizz doesn't care about EU, etc |
| 15:38.56 | Alram | im gonna go do that WQ |
| 15:38.57 | Alram | only once |
| 15:39.00 | Gnarfoz | maybe someone should tell them! to the twitters! |
| 15:39.03 | Alram | like the rebel i am |
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| 15:39.49 | Gnarfoz | https://twitter.com/KevinJo15325070/status/798912040681119744 maybe fixed? |
| 15:40.07 | Alram | i'll know in a moment |
| 15:41.11 | Gnarfoz | apparently a relog after doing it is required |
| 15:41.18 | Gnarfoz | https://twitter.com/nisx2012/status/798902179092279296 |
| 15:42.09 | Alram | yeah that is literally the exploit |
| 15:42.37 | Alram | its so easy im not sure it even falls under that name |
| 15:42.45 | Alram | people can easily do it accidentally |
| 15:47.15 | Alram | yeah definitely not fixed |
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| 15:48.53 | nevcairiel | if you do it accidentally once, its ok, if you spam do it, its exploiting :p |
| 15:49.04 | Alram | ofc |
| 15:49.40 | nevcairiel | should totally ban for that, that would be fun |
| 15:50.42 | Gnarfoz | roll back AP, too, of course |
| 15:50.55 | Alram | thats probably annoying to do |
| 15:51.03 | Gnarfoz | more worth it than banning |
| 15:51.35 | Alram | think of the edge cases tho |
| 15:51.41 | Alram | what if people spent them on traits etc |
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| 15:51.44 | Alram | would they roll those back too |
| 15:51.51 | Alram | can they roll those back easily |
| 15:51.54 | Alram | etc |
| 15:52.11 | Gnarfoz | considering they can purge boss kill achievements and loot, they probably can |
| 15:52.24 | nevcairiel | most people that exploit for various reasons also claim to play in the highend, so if you ban them for an entire week (ie. an entire id), they might feel that =p |
| 15:52.37 | Gnarfoz | can't spend AP on things not contained within your character, i.e. no others affected |
| 15:52.41 | Gnarfoz | can't trade it |
| 15:53.13 | Gnarfoz | the worst scrubs of the worst are doing it, no "high end" there. they're just the kind of person who thinks nothing of taking advantage of such things |
| 15:53.30 | nevcairiel | like i said, progress raiders |
| 15:53.31 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 15:53.36 | Shockah | the Pitbull issue i had earlier at work? non-existent at home. |
| 15:53.40 | Shockah | yay more OSX issues. |
| 15:53.44 | nevcairiel | nebula fixed it |
| 15:53.45 | Gnarfoz | sounds like you're holding it wrong |
| 15:54.22 | Shockah | hm |
| 15:54.36 | nevcairiel | but i also feel comfortable blaming osx |
| 15:54.48 | fatguylaughing | ^ |
| 15:55.37 | Shockah | ...actually i don't remember having any issues with WA at work today. |
| 15:55.49 | Shockah | could be that they fixed it in a hotfix? |
| 15:56.02 | Shockah | will have to check again tomorrow |
| 15:56.46 | nevcairiel | there were some fixes in WA on the weekend |
| 15:57.36 | Constie | Are you sure it's not just that you had the alpha version installed at work and stable at home, Shockah? |
| 15:57.50 | Shockah | i have my addons synced via Dropbox and symlinks |
| 15:57.53 | Shockah | so i'm sure |
| 15:58.16 | nevcairiel | well if you updated again since then, nebula made some fixes |
| 15:58.27 | Shockah | tbh i don't remember when i updated |
| 15:58.41 | Shockah | i mean it's muscle memory at this point |
| 15:59.04 | Shockah | i see Curse's icon telling me there are updates, i just double click -> update all -> forget |
| 16:01.23 | Gnarfoz | you could also try blaming Dropbox |
| 16:01.37 | Gnarfoz | also, if you're that lazy with it, you could enable auto-updating |
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| 16:06.36 | Shockah | auto-updating would annoy be greatly |
| 16:06.44 | Shockah | because my internet provider is a dick |
| 16:06.51 | Shockah | and i'm stuck at 1 Mbps upload |
| 16:07.17 | Shockah | basically, when Dropbox syncs anything, my ping jumps to 200+ ms |
| 16:07.23 | Alram | hey Fisker i got a legendary |
| 16:07.31 | Shockah | which... is pretty annoying when i'm gaming atm |
| 16:07.53 | foxlit | where are you, OS-level QoS? |
| 16:08.17 | nevcairiel | i just use router-level QoS and put wow into the realtime group |
| 16:08.23 | nevcairiel | works perfectly |
| 16:08.39 | nevcairiel | (also even without this explicit change, i would usually never notice) |
| 16:08.44 | Shockah | i'm forced into using my ISP's router |
| 16:08.51 | Shockah | otherwise no phone |
| 16:09.02 | Shockah | and i'm living with my parents who actually use the phone |
| 16:09.53 | Shockah | the router doesn't have QoS options |
| 16:11.04 | nevcairiel | not that this is a concern with my current ISP, but new laws now force ISPs to allow third-party routers and disclose any information necessary to get full service working :) |
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| 16:17.20 | Gnarfoz | sounds like you might want to change the "primary" side to be at work |
| 16:17.29 | Gnarfoz | so you can use download instead of upload when at home |
| 16:17.30 | Constie | The artifact forge pane kept closing itself a short amount of time after I opened it on my Monk. I relogged, and it did it again, but when I hit enter to make a note of it in guild chat Blizzard_ArtifactUI threw up a Lua error and it reopened itself and stayed open. Curious. |
| 16:17.47 | Gnarfoz | Constie:Â probably the same issue I've been experiencing |
| 16:18.08 | Gnarfoz | https://github.com/Rainrider/LibArtifactData-1.0/issues/9 has a bunch of links, see if you find anything that seems familiar ;) |
| 16:18.22 | Constie | Now the mission table is doing it, too. |
| 16:18.26 | Gnarfoz | well ok. |
| 16:18.30 | Gnarfoz | that should be unrelated |
| 16:18.43 | Gnarfoz | (certain things, like "socket the artifact" force the artifact ui to open) |
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| 16:22.18 | Constie | I disabled addons and then got a quest popup telling me to choose my next assault point since I just finished Val'sharah, and now everything is fine again. I guess that was repeatedly trying to pop up and closing other things when it did, and some addon was interfering. |
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| 16:41.46 | Stanzilla | Alram: which one did you get |
| 16:42.12 | Alram | bloodletting manacles |
| 16:42.18 | Alram | 1% health for every 10 rage spent |
| 16:42.24 | Alram | pretty awesome |
| 16:42.43 | Torhal | rages on Alram. |
| 16:43.06 | Alram | hey Torhal shouldnt you be feeding your cats or something |
| 16:43.31 | Torhal | I should be sleeping, but didn't want to miss the launch of the new WoW CurseForge. |
| 16:43.36 | Torhal | And WowAce. |
| 16:43.54 | Alram | when si it |
| 16:44.10 | Torhal | Supposedly in the next few minutes. I should have just gone to bed. |
| 16:44.36 | Torhal | And I did feed one of my cats: Gouda and Havarti. |
| 16:44.53 | Torhal | Technically, she stole it, but it still counts. |
| 16:44.54 | Alram | one of your cats is named after my hometown? |
| 16:45.08 | Torhal | No, I was eating Gouda and Havarti cheeses. |
| 16:45.11 | Alram | oh |
| 16:51.32 | Stanzilla | Alram: nice, grats |
| 16:54.45 | Ressy | o.O |
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| 17:34.50 | Fisker | That's hot |
| 17:53.37 | karl_w_w | http://www.anandtech.com/show/10833/the-samsung-960-evo-1tb-review |
| 17:53.41 | karl_w_w | hubba hubba |
| 17:53.57 | nevcairiel | ew evo |
| 17:54.39 | nevcairiel | still pretty good for a mainstream model |
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| 21:58.20 | Ressy | Gnarfoz: Looks like lots of top raiders are getting banned for that exploit. |
| 22:04.43 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 22:04.43 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 22:04.50 | Gnarfoz | https://twitter.com/Muffinus/status/799009564498636800 (for reference) |
| 22:07.47 | Fisker | What exploit is that? |
| 22:08.35 | nevcairiel | you can bug out odyn so he doesnt do any abilities anymore |
| 22:08.52 | Fisker | Nice |
| 22:09.28 | Ironii | that was about the WQ exploit |
| 22:10.14 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 22:10.16 | Stanzilla | was WQ not odyn |
| 22:10.24 | Stanzilla | Fisker: you could relog and a wq would respawn |
| 22:10.26 | Stanzilla | that gives AP |
| 22:12.08 | Fisker | Was it in highmountain? |
| 22:12.36 | Stanzilla | suramar |
| 22:14.30 | Fisker | Ah okay |
| 22:14.48 | Fisker | I noticed a WQ in highmountain that didn't exist in the mainmap |
| 22:16.36 | nevcairiel | even better to ban for that =p |
| 22:16.38 | nevcairiel | much more fun too |
| 22:18.45 | Stanzilla | some people went super ham on that |
| 22:18.49 | Stanzilla | did 1.4m AP |
| 22:19.12 | nevcairiel | idiots being idiots |
| 22:19.18 | nevcairiel | i'm sure they are crying about it now too |
| 22:25.38 | [TOM_RUS] | I doubt they will rollback it, so... |
| 22:25.43 | bshelden | The usual cries of "It's their fault. I shouldn't be punished for their bugs!" |
| 22:25.43 | [TOM_RUS] | but who knows |
| 22:25.59 | bshelden | Dealt with that crap back in my mud admin days. |
| 22:26.50 | nevcairiel | 48h bans during progress week are painful enough =p |
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| 22:38.32 | Fisker | Hopefully I won't be banned for my kodo though nevcairiel |
| 22:38.48 | Fisker | I'm amazed it's still working after like 3 weeks though |
| 22:46.15 | Alram | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/784368-people-exploiting-a-wq-today/ |
| 22:50.26 | Fisker | I wish they preserved fair play when people were getting legendaries left and right |
| 22:51.16 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn using arms |
| 22:51.28 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 23:08.18 | Zeldo | https://twitter.com/phoy1423/status/799010480924794880 |
| 23:08.20 | Zeldo | Classic |
| 23:09.05 | bshelden | But there are so many. Which one in particular? |
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