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| 00:14.48 | Ammako | tfw you see a red name while doing a quest and you think it's a quest objective, but then you heroic leap closer and it's a horde paladin |
| 00:19.50 | nebula | well shit, i didn't realize you could use a depleted keystone to "recharge" and upgrade it, you just don't get loot |
| 00:20.17 | LexSfX | Ammako: why are you still not using class colors in nameplates? |
| 00:20.47 | Ammako | they were too far away for nameplates to show |
| 00:21.14 | LexSfX | oh. you can configure nameplate range up to 100 yds |
| 00:21.19 | LexSfX | it's 60 by default now |
| 00:21.25 | Ammako | but that's pointless, i cant attack things from 100 yards away :p |
| 00:21.34 | LexSfX | you will be able to as a warlock in 7.1 |
| 00:21.41 | Ammako | that's just the artifact ability |
| 00:21.44 | LexSfX | apparently they are increasing chaos bolt and shadowbolt to 100yds |
| 00:23.45 | Ammako | dimensional rift casts those and they're increasing the range to make sure it will always be in range of targets to hit them :p |
| 00:24.29 | LexSfX | Warlock (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator) |
| 00:24.29 | LexSfX | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.29 | LexSfX | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.29 | LexSfX | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.34 | LexSfX | you sure? |
| 00:25.15 | Ammako | *nods* |
| 00:25.34 | Ammako | there's no way they would let warlock chaos bolt and shadow bolt shoot from 100 yard away |
| 00:26.35 | LexSfX | well, they are making boss rooms ridiculously huge and zooming the camera in so you can't see it |
| 00:26.49 | LexSfX | this would just be another shitty range-based design decision that i wouldn't put past them |
| 00:28.14 | znf | gasps at nebula |
| 00:28.34 | nebula | checks his zipper |
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| 00:30.27 | nebula | dem fury buffs |
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| 00:33.20 | Ammako | https://puu.sh/rFU8Q/bce20f68ab.jpg |
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| 00:33.44 | Ammako | no chaos bolt sniping people from across the bg :p |
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| 00:36.24 | LexSfX | Ammako: that's on the PTR? |
| 00:36.32 | Ammako | *nods* |
| 00:36.37 | LexSfX | okay |
| 00:36.44 | LexSfX | and you've tested the range with a cast? |
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| 00:46.46 | Ammako | patches update tooltips, yes |
| 00:51.03 | LexSfX | remember when typhoon still did damage, had no cooldown, did not trigger global cooldown, and no mana cost for a day? |
| 00:51.09 | LexSfX | on the 3.0 PTR |
| 00:51.11 | LexSfX | that was a funny day |
| 00:51.49 | LexSfX | you could make a macro with as many "/cast Typhoon"s as you could fit and spam it |
| 00:51.56 | LexSfX | to one-shot anything |
| 00:53.00 | znf | I swear to fuck |
| 00:53.03 | znf | my nameplate movement reset |
| 00:53.26 | znf | I had it to stacking |
| 00:55.20 | LexSfX | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_pllrIMEnM |
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| 01:18.19 | Ammako | get a ring full of crit and some vers, i dont care for those, offer to give it to someone else, figure out it,s 5 ilv higher so i cant |
| 01:18.20 | Ammako | rip |
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| 01:28.00 | znf | rings and necks are especially bad in ilvl upgrades :D |
| 01:28.31 | znf | the lack of primary stats on them makes them completely unwantable if they don't have the secondary you need |
| 01:31.59 | Ammako | eh they turned out to be an asshole so im glad i couldnt give it to them after all :p |
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| 01:39.36 | Stanzilla | tbh the missing mainstat und ring and necks is super retarded |
| 01:39.47 | Stanzilla | not getting an upgrade even though an item is +30 ilvl is stupid |
| 01:42.25 | znf | *nod* |
| 01:42.40 | znf | getting 860 drops, but you can't use them, because that 830 one you have equipped is better |
| 01:53.19 | Ammako | no mastery is as good as worthless to me |
| 01:56.03 | LexSfX | i doubt this if it's a significant (>20%) increase in total stat points |
| 01:56.12 | LexSfX | have you checked with simulationcraft? |
| 01:56.30 | Ammako | no but mastery is pretty significant as arms |
| 01:56.30 | Stanzilla | sure |
| 01:56.40 | Ammako | ranks above strength |
| 01:56.45 | Stanzilla | some stats are just >>>>>>>> any other stats |
| 01:56.57 | Stanzilla | mastery for arms, haste for fury, haste for shadow |
| 01:57.17 | Stanzilla | scaling is completely out of whack |
| 01:57.20 | Ammako | i have this ilv 830 ring... 1119 mastery with a socket |
| 01:57.36 | LexSfX | ok, but make sure to check with simulationcraft anyway before you assume the other one is a complete waste |
| 01:57.51 | Stanzilla | pls stop preaching simulationcraft |
| 01:57.55 | Ammako | it was a +5 ilv with zero mastery |
| 01:58.11 | LexSfX | oh, i was talking about the 830 -> 860 |
| 01:58.23 | Ammako | my other ring has 632 mastery, i dont think any amount of other stats on a +5 ilv ring beats it :p |
| 01:58.34 | LexSfX | also, simulationcraft is quite good, or at least has been for me in the past, allowing me to get ranks as brewmaster in MoP when i raided a lot |
| 01:58.38 | Ammako | so i basically vendor it because i cant DE it and cant trade |
| 01:58.47 | LexSfX | idk if its quality has been maintained |
| 01:59.00 | Stanzilla | some class modules in simc are not maintained at all |
| 01:59.15 | Ammako | even if it was a 860 i'd take all the mastery over it because i like the big hits |
| 01:59.21 | Stanzilla | and their value of simming fights is questionable at best |
| 01:59.40 | LexSfX | of course you have to look at the results with intelligence applied |
| 02:00.15 | Stanzilla | two days ago I simmed my warrior and it provided completely false results |
| 02:00.25 | Stanzilla | like putting haste above mastery for some reason |
| 02:00.47 | LexSfX | did you configure the ability priority properly? |
| 02:00.52 | Stanzilla | then I looked at the github issues and it's full of reports abotu missing stuff and wrong calculations |
| 02:00.56 | LexSfX | ah |
| 02:01.03 | Stanzilla | yet people run around preaching the results like it's the one truth |
| 02:01.14 | Stanzilla | not saying that you do |
| 02:01.16 | LexSfX | i preach it because i can fix what's not working |
| 02:01.17 | Stanzilla | but some people are |
| 02:01.40 | LexSfX | but yeah |
| 02:01.48 | LexSfX | it was great in MoP at least |
| 02:01.52 | LexSfX | very well-maintained at that time |
| 02:02.48 | LexSfX | it's too bad if the raiding community has become such a poor set of players that they don't maintain the tools they need to min-max |
| 02:03.06 | LexSfX | i guess that's just due to the ease of the content |
| 02:03.25 | LexSfX | if the entire mythic tier was cleared on day 1 |
| 02:04.03 | Stanzilla | with their goal of destroying the "BiS" mentality in players |
| 02:04.24 | Stanzilla | Blizzard only achieved it by flooding them with items so they cba to find out which one is best |
| 02:04.30 | LexSfX | lol |
| 02:04.31 | LexSfX | i guess so |
| 02:04.51 | Stanzilla | certainly not fun to figure out which of two items is better when they exists in 10 different versions |
| 02:04.56 | Stanzilla | spanning 40+ ilvls |
| 02:04.59 | LexSfX | it was fun finally achieving full BIS in wotlk |
| 02:05.00 | Stanzilla | and socket procs |
| 02:05.10 | LexSfX | but i guess it wouldn't be fun for people who never could |
| 02:05.15 | LexSfX | but really wanted to |
| 02:05.19 | Mr_Rabies | https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1476215081616.webm |
| 02:05.45 | Stanzilla | the current problem is that you well never ever be done with any content |
| 02:05.47 | Freddie | Stanzilla: and then there's trinkets. gl! |
| 02:06.01 | Stanzilla | which will cause burnout |
| 02:06.07 | Stanzilla | wonder how they will deal with that |
| 02:06.15 | LexSfX | burnout = quitting |
| 02:06.32 | LexSfX | legion kills wow then? |
| 02:06.34 | LexSfX | hmmmm! |
| 02:06.34 | Stanzilla | yes but do they care? |
| 02:06.48 | Stanzilla | it does not really matter to them if a few people leave because of that |
| 02:06.54 | znf | it's already feeling like a chore every day to log on and do at least the +AP quests |
| 02:06.59 | LexSfX | even my fellow pvpers are getting burned out now |
| 02:07.22 | Stanzilla | it's just interesting to watch |
| 02:07.26 | Stanzilla | same with top end raiding |
| 02:07.36 | Stanzilla | I dont know if you noticed what happened this tier |
| 02:07.37 | znf | Probably raiders feel better, at least they have wipes to look forward to :D |
| 02:07.53 | Stanzilla | but what happened is that the last boss died in sub 2h of progress time |
| 02:08.09 | znf | Xavius was easier than Cenarius in Normal |
| 02:08.18 | Stanzilla | because every top guild already had better gear than they would have had after weeks of farming of mythic because of mythic+ grinding prior to the raid release |
| 02:08.20 | znf | seemed easier in heroic too |
| 02:08.35 | Stanzilla | it is super easy, znf |
| 02:08.42 | Stanzilla | we still think there is an ability missing on mythic |
| 02:08.51 | Stanzilla | but yeah, scaling was just wrong there, too |
| 02:09.11 | Stanzilla | you outgeared the fights before you started raiding |
| 02:10.07 | znf | LexSfX, re: your scaling for >20%; haste ranks almost as close as intellect for Shadow, for example :) |
| 02:14.40 | LexSfX | znf: those stat weights change as your gear changes |
| 02:14.55 | LexSfX | due to diminishing returns, soft caps, etc. |
| 02:15.09 | znf | there's no haste soft cap :D |
| 02:15.13 | znf | for Shadow |
| 02:15.25 | LexSfX | there is a diminishing return though |
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| 02:15.52 | LexSfX | so make sure you're checking your current weights |
| 02:15.56 | LexSfX | every once in a while |
| 02:16.01 | LexSfX | as your stats increase |
| 02:16.01 | znf | Oh! Mr Robot added a Ubuntu client! |
| 02:16.02 | znf | nice |
| 02:17.23 | fewyn | I GOT LEGENDARY |
| 02:17.38 | Ammako | im in the dalaran streets walking and i just randomly get told that im not supposed to be there, get sapped, and the screen fades to black |
| 02:17.44 | znf | ...how the fuck am I supposed to use this on linux |
| 02:17.46 | znf | where's the fucking binary |
| 02:17.47 | Ammako | it thinks i was in the rogue class hall but i was in the streets |
| 02:18.06 | fewyn | http://www.wowhead.com/item=137031/thraxis-tricksy-treads |
| 02:18.32 | Ammako | maybe youre not ready for linux yet |
| 02:19.11 | LexSfX | znf: ./configure && make && make install |
| 02:19.37 | znf | they ship a binary |
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| 02:20.02 | LexSfX | oh |
| 02:20.21 | znf | I bet it's mono-something |
| 02:20.42 | nebula | ./amr? >.> |
| 02:20.58 | znf | yeah, but it wasn't +x in the zip |
| 02:21.16 | znf | and I completely missed it :D |
| 02:21.47 | znf | meh, I have no available >6 core that runs ubuntu 14+ |
| 02:22.40 | fewyn | i'm unsure of my legendary |
| 02:22.43 | fewyn | it's a legendary tho |
| 02:23.02 | Ammako | better than nothing, better than cc ring |
| 02:23.03 | LexSfX | sprint is now a dps cooldown |
| 02:23.04 | LexSfX | enjoy |
| 02:23.24 | fewyn | oh |
| 02:23.25 | fewyn | yeaaaah |
| 02:23.41 | LexSfX | tbh, that's just annoying |
| 02:23.51 | znf | I don't mind the CC ring tough :D |
| 02:23.52 | LexSfX | but oh well; can do more damage, at least |
| 02:23.56 | znf | I cc all the time in dungeons *shrug* |
| 02:24.15 | znf | I got cast-on-the-move boots |
| 02:24.21 | Ammako | yeah but, youre shadow priest, you'd like haste |
| 02:24.30 | znf | yes *nod* |
| 02:24.38 | LexSfX | fewyn: does attacking from your mount do more damage with that? |
| 02:25.35 | znf | the worse is the shield neck |
| 02:25.40 | znf | whoever made that had no hearth |
| 02:26.19 | LexSfX | or played path of exile a lot |
| 02:26.31 | LexSfX | as a path of exile player, it looks really good at first glance :P |
| 02:26.52 | znf | http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-sent-us-a-note-7-return-kit-with-a-thermally-insulated-box-and-safety-gloves/ |
| 02:27.10 | znf | lol http://i.imgur.com/HZktf3O.png |
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| 02:42.08 | Ammako | neat sv buffs in this new ptr build |
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| 02:52.39 | Semlar | can you even get multiple pieces of loot from multi-chesting a mythic+ any more |
| 02:53.02 | Semlar | the extra chests mostly seem to just contain gold now |
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| 02:55.01 | Semlar | oh someone in my group got 2 items so i guess you still can |
| 02:57.37 | znf | that's a crappy change tbh :D |
| 03:02.05 | _Kee | ~wowalert |
| 03:02.06 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
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| 04:11.33 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 04:11.41 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 04:15.56 | mckenziemc | hugs Cairenn. |
| 04:16.09 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
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| 05:13.00 | Simca | Semlar: all of the chests always have exactly 2 pieces of gear |
| 05:13.07 | Simca | how that is split amongst the party is random |
| 05:13.30 | Simca | well, 2 pieces of m+ gear. |
| 05:13.40 | Semlar | so you always get 6 pieces out of 3 chests? |
| 05:13.44 | Simca | yes |
| 05:13.50 | Semlar | one person could get all of them? |
| 05:14.10 | Simca | personally i've never seen a person get more than 1 per chest |
| 05:14.18 | Simca | so one person could get half of them, at least? |
| 05:14.46 | Semlar | interesting |
| 05:14.59 | Simca | also, they're all rolled at the same time |
| 05:15.32 | Simca | so your bad luck is applied to all chests at once and you have a very slightly higher than normal chance of getting multiple legendaries at once that way |
| 05:16.26 | Simca | basically, it seems like the boxes don't know what each other rolled |
| 05:17.48 | Semlar | well they're just boxes |
| 05:18.17 | Semlar | that's not really part of their job description |
| 05:19.29 | Simca | tomorrow's job listing |
| 05:19.42 | Simca | >blizzard entertainment has an opening for Psychic Boxes |
| 05:20.22 | Simca | >Prerequisites: Know what other boxes around you contain |
| 05:21.37 | Semlar | i could tell you what they don't contain |
| 05:21.48 | Semlar | any upgrades |
| 05:21.50 | Semlar | ever |
| 05:22.04 | Simca | so true |
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| 06:00.37 | mckenziemc | gives Semlar some downgrades. |
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| 07:09.35 | VIad | re: "(23:32:06) nevcairiel: and CoS is even so easy" - yeah COS is fun once you know the drill. having a DH or prot pala with the hidden artifact, makes it so after everyone has talked to each clue, their abilities highlights the dreadlord as hostile :D |
| 07:10.07 | VIad | basically group spreads out and talks to the NPCs asap, the DH/pala uses his thing to spot the guy fast and done |
| 07:10.49 | VIad | another trick is that sometimes the dreadlord can bug. if everyone in group spams instantcasts as he is walking and about to transform, he sometimes doesn't cast "full heal" ability and stays at 12 mil hp instead of healing up to 40 :P |
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| 07:40.24 | nevcairiel | hm this is a new error http://i.imgur.com/So2popp.jpg |
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| 08:04.34 | VIad | nevcairiel: did you try to remove your WTF and Interface folders? |
| 08:04.57 | nevcairiel | i just tried clicking the button again, after 3 times it worked =p |
| 08:05.04 | VIad | :p |
| 08:28.47 | Sharparam | dafuq |
| 08:28.49 | Sharparam | http://rfl.im/Y8 |
| 08:28.57 | Sharparam | it switched to swedish for those two lines only ._o |
| 08:31.47 | VIad | localization issues :) |
| 08:31.52 | Alram | windows ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 08:33.12 | VIad | (â¯Â°â¡Â°ï¼â¯ï¸µ â»ââ» |
| 08:33.59 | Sharparam | http://rfl.im/Y9 |
| 08:34.01 | Sharparam | wtf windows |
| 08:34.06 | Sharparam | i did not authorize this! |
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| 08:36.13 | VIad | you are using tools for linux on windows, ofc stuff will go wrong :p |
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| 08:38.26 | Sharparam | pfft |
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| 09:12.00 | Sharparam | do two follower items that both "increase success chance when accompanied by troops" stack? |
| 09:14.06 | VIad | should yes if you can equip both |
| 09:15.09 | Sharparam | neat |
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| 09:19.16 | VIad | â¬ââ⬠ã( ã-ãã) |
| 09:20.31 | Sharparam | took you long enough to put the table back :o |
| 09:21.16 | VIad | yes |
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| 09:39.45 | modernist | oh good, i was hoping the details might be a little more specific than "welp, wipe and start again" â https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/BLZBNTAGT000008AD?utm_medium=internal&utm_source=app-other |
| 09:42.48 | modernist | oh it wont even let me reinstall, awesome |
| 09:42.55 | modernist | guess il wipe bnet too |
| 09:58.56 | Gnarfoz | add "-uid wow_engb" to "additional command line parameters" |
| 09:59.09 | Gnarfoz | (or maybe different locale depending on your preference) |
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| 10:06.05 | modernist | completely fresh install : http://i.pi.gy/jN0J.png |
| 10:06.18 | modernist | i guess they're just fucked serverwise at the minute or something |
| 10:07.09 | modernist | oh christ: http://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20749785989 |
| 10:07.33 | modernist | guess thats what i get for following technical support guidelines instead of checking the forums first |
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| 10:14.13 | Alram | CDN is fecked |
| 10:14.16 | Alram | give it a few |
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| 11:02.06 | Gnarfoz | just add what I said |
| 11:03.00 | nevcairiel | battle.net itself bugs out right now for some, that wont help them =p |
| 11:05.08 | Gnarfoz | that's what they get for trying those other things, I guess! :D |
| 11:05.17 | Gnarfoz | maybe it also supports commandline parameters! :D |
| 11:05.51 | nevcairiel | could just let el blizz fix it |
| 11:08.31 | Gnarfoz | that entails waiting |
| 11:08.45 | nevcairiel | shouldnt you be at work |
| 11:09.21 | Gnarfoz | nope, holiday |
| 11:09.37 | nevcairiel | what kind of weirdo holiday is today |
| 11:09.39 | Gnarfoz | at my parents' in Hannover for the rest of the week |
| 11:09.50 | Gnarfoz | the vacation type of holiday |
| 11:09.54 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 11:10.03 | nevcairiel | thats why they invented the vacation word for that :P |
| 11:10.16 | Gnarfoz | pff, holiday does mean that too :P |
| 11:10.34 | Gnarfoz | apparently particularly in BE |
| 11:11.24 | Gnarfoz | and vacation is AE, seems to be one of those "no word both use" situations |
| 11:11.51 | Gnarfoz | also, moderately crowded at J'im http://imgur.com/a/NZMnD :D |
| 11:12.40 | nevcairiel | Poor Jim is forced to entertain all these guests in his humble home |
| 11:13.09 | modernist | what kind of pervert signs into bnet through facebook |
| 11:13.51 | modernist | anyway the CDN issues seem to have cleared up, now i get to reinstall! |
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| 11:14.21 | nevcairiel | That's what you get for hasty irreversible actions |
| 11:14.30 | Gnarfoz | ! |
| 11:14.49 | Gnarfoz | why did I get a German "we found this in the nether" loot mail from the postmaster |
| 11:15.07 | nevcairiel | Why not |
| 11:15.24 | Seeker | He went on holiday |
| 11:15.33 | nevcairiel | The postmaster doesn't know your client language |
| 11:16.24 | Gnarfoz | I'm pretty sure they're usually English |
| 11:16.40 | ls- | depends on server language O_o |
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| 11:17.16 | modernist | considering the CDN was trying to serve the EU client to US accounts just now |
| 11:17.22 | modernist | maybe something fruity is going on |
| 11:18.13 | modernist | whats that freudian urge called, the death drive? |
| 11:18.30 | modernist | i feel that coming on every time "wow is now playable" pops up on installation |
| 11:22.28 | ls- | damn, I'm quite tired atm, so I read it as feudal urge T_T |
| 11:42.53 | karl_w_w | https://i.imgur.com/YbkBxYb.gif |
| 11:46.18 | Shockah|Work | too bad you can see the loop |
| 12:00.18 | Gnarfoz | now the next postmaster mail is in English again o_o' |
| 12:04.37 | karl_w_w | the best and worst part of ordering things on line is refreshing the tracking page |
| 12:04.54 | karl_w_w | "on line" |
| 12:05.13 | karl_w_w | back in my day we didn't have these new fangled "lines" |
| 12:05.19 | karl_w_w | everything was off line! |
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| 13:17.16 | Gnarfoz | I don't really want to use the items or the effect will go away https://gfycat.com/RemoteUnfitBeardeddragon |
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| 13:18.30 | Shockah|Work | that's kinda... mesmerizing |
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| 13:53.17 | znf | LexSfX, http://i.imgur.com/u3R2Kw9.png |
| 13:53.28 | znf | after a sim; haste > int |
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| 14:08.31 | VIad | znf: s it a good or bad thing? |
| 14:09.06 | znf | VIad, it's... weird for a secondary stat to be higher than your primary :) |
| 14:09.24 | VIad | wouldn't surprise me :d |
| 14:09.31 | Shockah|Work | not sure what spec was that for, but shadow priests are like that |
| 14:09.33 | Shockah|Work | haste over int |
| 14:09.41 | znf | shadow, obviously |
| 14:09.41 | VIad | the same way you pick lower ilvl that give less primary stat but more of whatever secondary stats |
| 14:15.38 | Ammako | score, blood relic from halls of valor world quest procced +5 warforged, 871 bow now |
| 14:32.01 | znf | wow, I feel useless in Timewalking dungeons |
| 14:32.04 | znf | 18% haste |
| 14:32.14 | znf | like, I can't get any spell to cast before everything dies :-| |
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| 14:33.47 | VIad | kek |
| 14:37.43 | Seeker | oh, joy, 5 queues as a DPS |
| 14:37.46 | Seeker | There goes my weekend |
| 14:41.29 | znf | I swear it seems that on reset day you get less WQs with +AP |
| 14:42.17 | VIad | it's silly how this channel has so many people but no one tries to ask or organize any bnet m+/raid activities ,_, |
| 14:42.22 | Ressy | Last week I logged in to find 24k in AP |
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| 14:42.46 | VIad | I play 99% tank but never tanked for anyone on here :p |
| 14:43.15 | Sharparam | VIad: we should start something! |
| 14:43.35 | Sharparam | my friend is tank though, so for mythics we don't need one :( |
| 14:43.41 | VIad | :d |
| 14:43.46 | Ammako | well i got one thatrewarded a decently high lv blood relic so im happy |
| 14:43.52 | VIad | I got a m+ team I am playing with atm, but not for long if I dont get any drops _>> |
| 14:44.34 | znf | I played with Ironii! |
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| 14:49.51 | Seeker | VIad: are you EU or US? |
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| 14:55.35 | Simca__ | Torhal: /archy debug reports the wrong blobID |
| 14:55.55 | Simca__ | super minor gripe because i already filled out all of the blobIDs for legion, but thought i'd mention it |
| 14:57.51 | Ammako | i have 1319 stonehide leather that i havent decided what to do with yet |
| 15:00.06 | znf | I would really really really really like websites to stop hashing my browser version into their permanent-login-cookie |
| 15:00.09 | znf | It's fucking retarded already. |
| 15:00.24 | znf | Chrome updates -> logged out of all websites |
| 15:00.46 | Ammako | lol |
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| 15:24.00 | Constie | Progress circle got a little messed up somehow. http://i.imgur.com/qWZsXf7.png |
| 15:25.06 | nevcairiel | those always have that happen to them |
| 15:25.11 | nevcairiel | looks rather funny |
| 15:25.16 | nevcairiel | ever since WoD already |
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| 15:29.52 | Ammako | they should remove that singularity sitting in the middle of the circle |
| 15:29.59 | Ammako | it's bending light towards it |
| 15:33.52 | Seeker | I wonder how long it will be before Blizzard announce "We have recently discovered an issue that causes some players to be ineligable for legendary drops. We have no estimated date for a fix at this stage". |
| 15:34.36 | Ammako | haha |
| 15:36.11 | Ammako | wouldnt that be convenient |
| 15:37.25 | VIad | "We've discovered an issue where the legendary drops were given to party members that already had a legendary. No estimated date for a fix." |
| 15:43.59 | znf | would have been funny if you'd get legendaries intented for party members |
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| 15:45.31 | mckenziemc | would it be legendary |
| 15:46.09 | Ammako | as long as it's boots |
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| 15:46.24 | Ammako | boots are the real leg ends |
| 15:47.51 | mckenziemc | >.> |
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| 15:56.28 | fewyn | morning |
| 15:56.50 | fewyn | there were a ton of leg drops in my guild yesterday |
| 15:57.01 | fewyn | including mine |
| 15:58.01 | kullervo | leg drops. Legs. Took me a monent... ༼´ââ౪ââ༽ ã½( ï¾ã®ã»)ã |
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| 16:17.13 | fewyn | Items rewarded from emissary bags now more closely match the quality of World Quest rewards. |
| 16:17.26 | Ammako | that explains my 835 gloves |
| 16:20.07 | Seeker | That explains it. WQs don't give legendaries, so that's why my emissary boxes dont |
| 16:20.30 | fewyn | except they drop out of the boxes Seeker |
| 16:20.35 | fewyn | i've seen it |
| 16:20.44 | Seeker | I'm dubious :P |
| 16:20.52 | Ammako | I'm Ammako |
| 16:21.04 | fewyn | I'm Dad |
| 16:22.20 | _Kee | I'm Kee |
| 16:22.27 | Seeker | I thought you were _Kee |
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| 16:23.13 | _Kee | when I login as Kee, irc bot says I need to register or something, it irritiates me so I login as _Kee |
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| 16:31.14 | Shockah | THERE WE GO BOYZ, first legendary |
| 16:31.19 | Shockah | ...except it's a generic one. |
| 16:31.28 | Seeker | Shockah: gz |
| 16:31.32 | Shockah | the "stand in place to heal for 4% HP every 3 secs" |
| 16:31.36 | Shockah | and I CAN'T STAND IN PLACE |
| 16:31.40 | Shockah | i literally always move |
| 16:31.41 | Shockah | as a hunter |
| 16:32.01 | Seeker | pretend you're a mage that whines every time they're asked to move 5 yards |
| 16:32.33 | Andols_ | Do you have to move? Or do you like to move around? :P |
| 16:32.53 | Seeker | I struggle to play casters, because as a rogue I'm constantly moving |
| 16:33.00 | Shockah | i like to move around |
| 16:33.09 | Shockah | i literally always move or jump around |
| 16:33.14 | Shockah | i hate standing in place |
| 16:33.24 | znf | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/775031-gms-are-totally-useless/ |
| 16:33.29 | znf | ^ at this point, I'm not sure why they even have GMs |
| 16:34.00 | Seeker | I've not had a response that isn't "Oh well, better luck next time, nothing we can do to fix it" in about 2 years |
| 16:34.03 | Seeker | or longer |
| 16:34.30 | znf | *nod* |
| 16:34.44 | znf | they used to be able to do shit |
| 16:34.52 | znf | now they're just copy/pasting answers |
| 16:36.41 | Seeker | "We screwed up the AH UI so you bought the wrong item? Nope, can't do anything about that. We screwed up and showed the wrong buff duration and ended the Archaeology quest before we said we would? Guess you'll have to wait for it to appear again. We deleted all of your cataclysm archaeology solve progress? Yeah, you'll just have to re-solve everything" |
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| 16:40.06 | nevcairiel | GMs cant fix game bugs for you |
| 16:40.13 | nevcairiel | you just expect them to do unrealistic things |
| 16:40.35 | Seeker | nevcairiel: no, but they can fix the result of the bug |
| 16:40.50 | nevcairiel | but they wont, because everyone would come calling then |
| 16:40.54 | nevcairiel | wide-spread bugs dont get fixed |
| 16:41.05 | nevcairiel | until the bug is gone |
| 16:41.32 | ls- | "gone" |
| 16:41.52 | nevcairiel | the only of those with any potential of even the smallest chance of a GM response is the AH thing, even though it sounds like user failure =p |
| 16:41.52 | ls- | more like forgotten :p |
| 16:42.05 | nevcairiel | everything else is far beyond GM area |
| 16:43.24 | [TOM_RUS] | I agree that GM's are useless, they refuse to help with 99% of issues even if those only take them few clicks to fix |
| 16:44.12 | nevcairiel | its not about how easy something is to fix, but they help players with issues, not players that want their stuff now :p |
| 16:44.58 | nevcairiel | A GM could give you the legendary you want with only a few clicks, does that mean they should? :) |
| 16:45.09 | Seeker | nevcairiel: no, it wasn't user failure. The mobile AH had an item listed as 835, so I bought it. When I logged in, it was a 735 ilvl item in my mailbox |
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| 16:45.26 | Ammako | imagine how many people have put in tickets asking for legendaries because "they deserve it after all this time" |
| 16:46.31 | Seeker | They agreed it was a mobile AH bug, but refused to fix it because it would be "interfering with the server economy", even though the bug interfered with the server economy in the first place |
| 16:47.06 | Seeker | "fix it" being refunding me the gold for the item I *still* haven't been able to sell, because who buys 735 BoEs? |
| 16:47.08 | nevcairiel | auctions are an interaction between players, cant really refund that very easily, do you take the money away from the other player again? |
| 16:47.21 | nevcairiel | and adding more gold to the economy seems unlikely |
| 16:47.26 | Seeker | nevcairiel: no, take the item off me and give me the gold back :P |
| 16:47.33 | znf | they used to be able to fix shit |
| 16:47.37 | znf | now they won't/can't |
| 16:47.45 | znf | your raid lockout is bugged? sorry, gotta wait! |
| 16:47.52 | znf | back in the days, they would actually go in and fix it |
| 16:48.21 | Ammako | but that injects gold into the economy, therefore, messing with server economy |
| 16:49.24 | [TOM_RUS] | wow token price fluctuating for few thousands gold every day and no one cares about it |
| 16:49.49 | znf | oh |
| 16:49.51 | znf | EU is so cheap |
| 16:49.51 | znf | wtf |
| 16:49.58 | Ammako | yeah but the tokens dont really inject new gold into the economy, it shuffles it around. unless the system actually does and we're being lied to about it :p |
| 16:50.22 | znf | 69k gold |
| 16:50.22 | nevcairiel | the token price is pretty stabe actually |
| 16:50.29 | Seeker | That doesn't change the fact that I thought I was spending gold it took me time to earn on an item that I thought was going to be useful, which turned out to be useless. That leaves me without a useful item, without the gold and without the time it took to get the gold. I'd have been happy with them giving me back any one of those, but the response was "nope" |
| 16:50.32 | znf | that's like 2 hours of game-time, farming roses |
| 16:50.43 | nevcairiel | within 5k the last month or so |
| 16:50.53 | Ammako | im surprised it's that low tbh |
| 16:50.59 | Ammako | i expected legion would make it rise |
| 16:51.35 | nevcairiel | probably more people selling as well for gold |
| 16:53.06 | znf | people selling tokens to afford flasks :D |
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| 17:20.55 | Semlar | it looks like the balance of power questline is locked behind the next raid so you don't really speed things up by getting your corrupted essences faster |
| 17:21.45 | foxlit | it's a little infuriating how much "here, work towards this" content is actually patch-gated. |
| 17:23.28 | Semlar | if wowhead comments are correct, xavius isn't guaranteed to drop an essence either |
| 17:23.45 | Semlar | so it's possible to make no progress on the quest |
| 17:25.24 | nevcairiel | i cant get the damn look without nighthold? |
| 17:25.51 | nevcairiel | thats really frustrating then, because by the time that happens i'll have completed like most of the achievements for the color variants, but not the main one? |
| 17:25.52 | Semlar | that's what it's looking like |
| 17:26.14 | Seeker | How many essences do people have? I think I've got 22 now |
| 17:26.15 | Semlar | also apparently you can't get those other color variants without the main one |
| 17:26.24 | Semlar | i have 21 but i haven't done the raid yet this week |
| 17:26.25 | nevcairiel | that i know |
| 17:26.33 | nevcairiel | which makes that so infurating |
| 17:26.38 | nevcairiel | hope i get the hidden at least soon |
| 17:27.15 | Semlar | my hidden appearance required me to buy it from a vendor |
| 17:27.27 | Semlar | so that was pretty easy |
| 17:27.30 | nevcairiel | hunter needs to target a special kind of crowd |
| 17:27.40 | Semlar | what are you trying to say |
| 17:28.48 | Seeker | He's saying that hunters need things handed to them by a vendor, because they can't cope with the methods other classes have to deal with |
| 17:28.55 | Andols_ | nevcairiel: where do you get hidden for bear? |
| 17:29.50 | Semlar | i kind of want an alt but i don't think there's any way to get it remotely caught up to my main |
| 17:31.09 | Semlar | maybe i'll just stick to the hunter |
| 17:31.41 | nevcairiel | Andols_: raid drop from ursoc |
| 17:32.12 | Andols | ok |
| 17:35.44 | Ammako | my solution is to not care about being competitive |
| 17:36.00 | Gethe | survival hunter is also a drop from Ursoc |
| 17:37.42 | Semlar | what hunter |
| 17:39.21 | Gethe | aka "the fun spec" |
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| 18:14.00 | Ressy | Sad. Pretty much all the Blizzard pre-sale clothing showed up in the store as "out of stock" |
| 18:14.23 | Ressy | Like, the store went live, and they were "out of stock" already. |
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| 18:22.40 | LexSfX | 10:39:21 <Gethe> aka "the fun spec" |
| 18:22.50 | LexSfX | i'll never understand people who think melee is more fun than ranged |
| 18:23.07 | Ammako | yeah I don't understand people who like different things either |
| 18:24.03 | Gethe | I still main marks, but out side raid i' |
| 18:24.12 | Gethe | m mostly SV |
| 18:24.27 | Ammako | is it still broken where sv gets targeted by mechanics that target ranged |
| 18:25.43 | Gethe | "fun" as in i enjoy the rotation and mechanics of the spec, but in a raid i'll go ranged any day |
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| 19:03.29 | karl_w_w | if I start complaining in like a few weeks that my windows update isn't working, remind me that I disabled it :P |
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| 19:22.33 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: which chat type (in the settings) is the world quest intro? the text that is also in the talking head |
| 19:24.52 | Stanzilla | monster say? |
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| 19:29.10 | TheDanW | Stanzilla: pretty sure design can use any of the monster types |
| 19:29.21 | TheDanW | they usually just pick say though |
| 19:29.36 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 19:49.44 | Ammako | well these gloves procced warforged +5 w/ socket and 412 speed |
| 19:49.59 | Ammako | no wait, warforged +10 |
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| 20:47.45 | karl_w_w | I really wish relinquishing your license to something on steam wasn't limited to things which still have a store page |
| 20:51.39 | zenzelezz | relinquish license? |
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| 21:00.02 | zenzelezz | that explains a lot |
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| 21:27.47 | jaxdahl | has 1.6m shares worth ~74m, another 3m shares he hasn't taken ownership of yet, cash & pension payments worth over $23m |
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| 23:11.24 | Gnarfoz | https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/bartrubynoisygnimo oh my god |
| 23:12.08 | kd3 | wtf |
| 23:12.11 | Gnarfoz | from the name I had hoped it might be a set of sound files to mute the damn mount :P |
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| 23:16.33 | Torhal | Simca: I don't remember it doing blobID at all. Huh. |
| 23:16.45 | Torhal | I'll look later. |
| 23:18.45 | Gnarfoz | also: those stomping dinosaur hunter pets. CLONK CLONK CLONK CLONK CLONK CLONK |
| 23:27.27 | Semlar | every time i go to the trueshot lodge |
| 23:28.07 | znf | ...my group wiped in a timewalking dungeon |
| 23:28.27 | Semlar | i literally had my pet tanking a timewalking dungeon |
| 23:29.09 | Semlar | it seemed really undertuned |
| 23:29.50 | Sharparam | finally! no more ugly bat form http://rfl.im/YP |
| 23:30.01 | Semlar | that was magister's terrace though |
| 23:30.07 | Semlar | they might not all be the same |
| 23:30.23 | Semlar | i killed one of the bosses in like 3 seconds |
| 23:30.45 | Semlar | the one where it's like a council fight |
| 23:30.58 | Semlar | i just aoe'd them all down |
| 23:33.59 | znf | you don't need to be 110 for it, right? |
| 23:33.59 | znf | for timewalking |
| 23:34.15 | kd3 | no, just above the level of the dungeon |
| 23:34.22 | kd3 | so, for BC, 71 and above can timewalk |
| 23:34.32 | znf | I should take my druid trough them |
| 23:34.41 | znf | how does the gear scaling work in it? |
| 23:34.49 | znf | I mean, the gear you get from it |
| 23:34.53 | znf | does it scale up to 110 if I am 107? |
| 23:35.05 | kd3 | it'll scale to whatever level you're at when you're out of the dungeon |
| 23:35.12 | kd3 | so, go in at 107? you'll get 107 loot |
| 23:35.36 | znf | we wiped again |
| 23:35.58 | znf | what's the ilvl, that's what I'm asking :) |
| 23:36.56 | kd3 | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 23:37.11 | bshelden | ~wowpedia item level |
| 23:37.12 | purl | http://www.wowpedia.org/item level |
| 23:37.12 | kd3 | I'd guess somewhere around quest rewards for 107? |
| 23:37.59 | relaxok | i dont understand the mission stuff (i didnt do WoD) - how is it determined which missions are available? Is it just the same available missions for everybody? |
| 23:38.10 | relaxok | i dont see why it's still giving me level 101/103 missions when all my champions are 110 |
| 23:38.35 | kd3 | because blizzard are dumb and didn't make the same fix they made for garrison missions in the same situation |
| 23:38.37 | relaxok | or giving me ilvl 815 raid missions when all my champions are 775 |
| 23:38.47 | kd3 | they are unique for you, however |
| 23:39.07 | relaxok | and they also time out and disappear and get replaced if you dont do them? |
| 23:39.13 | relaxok | its just a weird system |
| 23:39.18 | kd3 | they will, eventually |
| 23:39.26 | foxlit | no, it works fine now. |
| 23:39.56 | relaxok | i would expect to see missions that are appropriate for my champions, at least when a new one is added |
| 23:41.50 | foxlit | essentially, there are very few actual 110 missions. |
| 23:43.24 | znf | totally need masterplaner |
| 23:43.35 | foxlit | most of the higher-level stuff requires item level progression, and so doesn't show up for you. |
| 23:45.27 | relaxok | foxlit: so why is there right now a 110 ilvl 830 mission for me when nobody is above 775? |
| 23:45.38 | foxlit | advertising. |
| 23:46.09 | foxlit | the dungeon and raid missions are not gated by item level, presumably to tell you that they exist and you should gear up your champions for them. |
| 23:46.36 | relaxok | i see |
| 23:46.48 | relaxok | its kinda slow going with these 12 and 18 hour things |
| 23:47.55 | foxlit | life is to be savored. |
| 23:48.58 | foxlit | the awkward part of the spawn logic is when it flips to giving you almost exclusively 830/840/850 missions while you have only few followers at those levels. |
| 23:50.07 | relaxok | i also wish you could activate more champions at once |
| 23:50.19 | relaxok | seems like something that should be a class hall upgrade type thing |
| 23:50.25 | relaxok | (its not is it?) |
| 23:51.07 | bshelden | They really don't want to do that. They want the CH missions to remain a minor thing. |
| 23:51.18 | bshelden | You're expected to miss plenty of the missions |
