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| 00:08.52 | Arrowmaster | artile saying "Twitter user John McAfee @officialmacafee spotted PornHub on a smart refrigerator at his local Home Depot" |
| 00:09.21 | Arrowmaster | its fucking John McAfee, hes either reposting it or he put it on there himself and took a pic |
| 00:09.45 | Arrowmaster | theres no fucking way he just wondered by and saw it |
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| 00:11.48 | Tain | Wait, are you suggesting that you can't believe everything that you read on the Internet? |
| 00:12.00 | ls- | nowai! :D |
| 00:12.53 | Rainrider_ | I don't get it. what's wrong with pornhub on smart fridges? :) |
| 00:13.20 | Arrowmaster | im more likely to believe the writer of the artile was an idiot, although it was a clickbait site so i use the term writer loosly |
| 00:19.15 | foxlit | also "Twitter user John McAffee" is kind of an odd title |
| 00:20.26 | Arrowmaster | thats exactly what they said in the artile |
| 00:20.57 | Arrowmaster | the one the only legendary John McAfee refered to as Twitter user John McAfee |
| 00:21.44 | Arrowmaster | if youve been living under a rock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKgf5PaBzyg |
| 00:22.20 | TheDanW | Tentacled: i'll take a look, but it's fairly low priority right now :/ i'd really love to take the time to rewrite dropdowns to be less... the way they are |
| 00:24.39 | Iriel | TheDanW: So diplomatic! |
| 00:28.08 | Tain | What version of Lua is WoW using right now? |
| 00:28.26 | Arrowmaster | 5.1.x still id bet? |
| 00:28.45 | Ammako | a subset of it |
| 00:29.18 | Tain | I was last coding a little after the first expansion which was lower, just trying to make sure. |
| 00:29.21 | kd3 | 5.1 minus sys/io stuff plus bitlib |
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| 00:31.19 | Tain | I just had read recently trying to figure out where things were and I guess the "for k,v in" mechanic was gone? |
| 00:31.38 | Ammako | gone how |
| 00:31.48 | Tain | Not valid? |
| 00:32.31 | mckenziemc | o.O |
| 00:32.45 | Ammako | for k, v in pairs(table) do [code code code] end ? |
| 00:33.03 | foxlit | no, for k, v in table do ... end |
| 00:34.56 | Tain | It's been I guess 8 years or longer since I was working on addons, I'm just trying to catch up on what's current. |
| 00:37.22 | Tain | heh actually 10 years. The last update I sent up was 8/9/06 |
| 00:37.30 | foxlit | (i.e. before BC) |
| 00:38.19 | Tain | Apparently so! |
| 00:39.00 | mckenziemc | you went that long without touching addon code? o.o |
| 00:40.05 | Tain | I stopped playing. |
| 00:42.26 | Iriel | Tain: Heretic! |
| 00:44.18 | Rainrider_ | Iriel: are you still playing? |
| 00:44.39 | Tain | :D |
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| 00:55.36 | Iriel | Rainrider_: I am. |
| 00:55.40 | Tain | I just have to play for a bit and find out what things aren't available that make my life easier, which are, and which I think could be improved. |
| 00:55.48 | Iriel | Rainrider_: 2 x 110, several others in the 101-109 range |
| 00:56.13 | Iriel | Tain: the good news is that Blizzard have fixed a lot of the older annoyances |
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| 00:57.59 | Thunder_Child | The bad news is that they added some new ones. |
| 00:58.41 | mckenziemc | for k,v in .... should work though |
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| 00:59.15 | mckenziemc | oh i think i understand what the problem / what foxlit said was |
| 00:59.29 | mckenziemc | in the past you could directly use a table? |
| 00:59.56 | Tain | I know it's a completely silly thing but I'll always be able to have a happy place where some people from Blizzard (through someone else) contacted me to say, "How are you doing this with this addon?" |
| 01:00.53 | Thunder_Child | They should have been able to look at the code and see how you are doing it. |
| 01:01.23 | Tain | Of course. I think it was just more of a case of doing something in a way that wasn't intended. |
| 01:02.15 | Iriel | Anyone here tried Shenzhen I/O yet - i'm trying to gauge how deep a rat hole it'll be once I start. TIS-100 consumed several days. |
| 01:02.20 | Tain | It doesn't matter anyome, things are completely different now. but it's my own little five minutes of meaningless Internet fame that only affected me. |
| 01:03.40 | Thunder_Child | I do remember it being mentioned in channel once before, but not to mentioned it. |
| 01:04.13 | Iriel | I was off oculusing and not paying attention to IRC |
| 01:04.26 | mckenziemc | Thunder_Child: documentation doesn't solve the problem of unfamiliarity when the code has to be unintuitive :p |
| 01:05.17 | Thunder_Child | mckenziemc: Sure, but if you wrote the API for it, you should be able to follow along well enough. |
| 01:05.17 | mckenziemc | some things can't be understood quickly the first time, even with good instruction |
| 01:05.37 | Rainrider_ | you mean like women right? |
| 01:05.52 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 01:05.53 | Iriel | Reaching out to the author does more than just 'understand the code', it helps create a relationship in case other "you shouldn't be able to do this" things come up. |
| 01:07.03 | Tain | That's just it, you always know what you expect your code to do. That doesn't mean you know everything that I could do. It's a trap, in a sense. Don't assume what you intend is how everyone will use it. |
| 01:07.05 | mckenziemc | Thunder_Child: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence ! |
| 01:07.59 | Tain | One of the cardinal rules of an online game is, "Don't trust the local client." |
| 01:11.17 | Stanzilla | s/online game/life and s/local client/women/ |
| 01:11.54 | Iriel | Stanzilla: I think you mean s/local client/people/ |
| 01:12.39 | Stanzilla | also true |
| 01:14.18 | Tain | Ehn they're differnt but tangentally related. |
| 01:16.43 | Tain | I still just remember the days of EverQuest where there were so many exploits because of so much data stored locally. |
| 01:20.11 | Rainrider_ | apropos locally stored, any idea why artifacts are not? |
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| 01:21.25 | Rainrider_ | or why it is such a pita to get info on artifacts |
| 01:21.52 | Rainrider_ | especially whit multiple addons trying to do the same |
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| 01:22.29 | Tain | That's why I don't like addons that try to do too much. I'd be happier with addons doing one thing and focusing on it. |
| 01:24.28 | Rainrider_ | that's not the point. it's kind of like it was with inspecting |
| 01:25.54 | Tain | It is the point for me. If multiple addons can't do it, I'd rather wait for one that focuses on it. |
| 01:27.11 | Rainrider_ | they need different parts of the data |
| 01:27.20 | Rainrider_ | but all have to open the same pot |
| 01:27.39 | Rainrider_ | and the first one to close the pot, cuts the rest off |
| 01:27.46 | Tain | But I'll freely admit I almost worked on things that I wanted. If someone else was interested then that's awesome. But I can't do it if it's something that I think I want while playing. |
| 01:29.32 | Iriel | Tain: IMHO that's how the best software gets created. |
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| 01:33.19 | Tain | I'm glad you said it, I need to keep my ego under lock and chain. ;) |
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| 01:45.43 | Ammako | Increases dodge chance by 5% and makes you immune to falling damage, unless you're passenger in a multi-seat mount in which case you die anyway |
| 01:46.02 | fewyn | START PROTOCOL: VACATION |
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| 01:55.20 | mckenziemc | sends fewyn to Georgia's coast. |
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| 02:05.56 | mckenziemc | btw Semlar how was the weather |
| 02:06.10 | Semlar | not bad |
| 02:06.19 | Semlar | little windy |
| 02:07.08 | Thunder_Child | I bet it is nicer than socal. |
| 02:07.35 | nebula | wtf you're still alive |
| 02:07.39 | nebula | what a weak ass hurricane |
| 02:08.20 | Ammako | im doing science and im still alive |
| 02:08.54 | mckenziemc | stabs Ammako. |
| 02:09.35 | Ammako | dodges |
| 02:12.40 | mckenziemc | kidnaps Ammako with a multi-seat mount and jumps off a cliff. |
| 02:12.54 | Ammako | Curses, foiled again |
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| 02:13.25 | Mr_Rabies | what region of hell are you in, semlar |
| 02:13.27 | Mr_Rabies | i mean florida |
| 02:13.48 | kd3 | orlando, or he was yesterday |
| 02:13.54 | Mr_Rabies | ah |
| 02:13.55 | kd3 | dunno where matthew sent him |
| 02:14.04 | Mr_Rabies | i got family up here in georgia escaping daytona |
| 02:14.10 | mckenziemc | he's on a boat |
| 02:14.15 | Mr_Rabies | who the heck is matthew |
| 02:14.20 | Mr_Rabies | oh |
| 02:14.21 | Mr_Rabies | right |
| 02:14.22 | Mr_Rabies | the storm |
| 02:14.24 | Mr_Rabies | i'm retarded |
| 02:14.35 | Mr_Rabies | we need to give storms animal names |
| 02:14.38 | Mr_Rabies | instead of people names |
| 02:14.57 | Mr_Rabies | and give pets people names |
| 02:15.01 | Ammako | hurricane shark? |
| 02:15.03 | Mr_Rabies | never met a bad cat named charles |
| 02:15.05 | nebula | hurricany mchurricaneface |
| 02:18.21 | Thunder_Child | Should be named after swear words. It's what people end up calling them anyway. |
| 02:18.39 | Thunder_Child | "Damnit, hurricane fuckstick is about to hit us." |
| 02:27.26 | mckenziemc | Hurricane Ass? |
| 02:30.22 | Mr_Rabies | we're reporting 100 mile per hour winds in the eye of the ass |
| 02:31.12 | mckenziemc | ... |
| 02:31.34 | Iriel | Now, for hurricane Tiger, that'd work. |
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| 02:31.52 | Iriel | But i'm not sure a one-shot joke really justifies changing the whole naming convention |
| 02:31.56 | Ammako | isnt the eye very calm? |
| 02:32.00 | mckenziemc | ^ |
| 02:32.17 | Mr_Rabies | the very center of the eye is, yeah |
| 02:32.24 | Mr_Rabies | the eyewall is pretty rough though |
| 02:34.09 | Ammako | they can name one Azshara, then we'll have the eye of azshara |
| 02:34.37 | mckenziemc | i've yet to hear anyone use Azshara as an expletive. |
| 02:36.29 | mckenziemc | is there an eye in Hurricane Team? |
| 02:37.04 | mckenziemc | damn that doesn't work :( |
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| 03:21.54 | Thunder_Child | Sometimes I can't tell if the sirens are from what I am watching or outside. |
| 03:22.01 | Thunder_Child | Sadly, most of the time they are outside. |
| 03:23.21 | Mr_Rabies | whatchu wan |
| 03:23.24 | Mr_Rabies | whatchu wanna do |
| 03:23.29 | Mr_Rabies | er gon |
| 03:23.32 | Mr_Rabies | i guess i dunno |
| 03:23.44 | Mr_Rabies | this was meant to be a COPS refernce but i fucked up, i fucked up |
| 03:23.46 | Mr_Rabies | call off the joke |
| 03:23.48 | Mr_Rabies | it's over |
| 03:24.03 | Thunder_Child | That's ok, it never really started. |
| 03:24.17 | fewyn | we missed +5 nelth lair by about 30 seconds |
| 03:24.20 | fewyn | rip |
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| 03:57.53 | mckenziemc | Which product would you like? Enter 0 to exit: 0 |
| 03:57.53 | mckenziemc | The price for 1 of that item is $10.00 |
| 03:58.13 | Thunder_Child | Yes, it costs to exit. |
| 03:59.48 | kd3 | ah, CS programming exercises |
| 04:05.36 | mckenziemc | i added a loop for the case of selecting an out-of-stock item, and now trying to exit not only costs you, but you go back to item selection |
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| 04:11.43 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/6oE77yih.gifv I found Semlar |
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| 05:10.25 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: super small bug https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/eckcirj13tpdbne/2016-10-08_07-09-53.webm |
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| 05:15.50 | mckenziemc | you can't do that yet |
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| 05:22.04 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Quest icon models were doing that for me the other day. |
| 05:22.11 | Torhal | The ones above the heads of NPCs. |
| 05:22.37 | Mr_Rabies | i actually got that earlier stanzilla |
| 05:22.39 | Stanzilla | changing from what to what? |
| 05:22.50 | Mr_Rabies | i was getting objectives so fast while spamming stuff on the dragon in stormheim |
| 05:22.58 | Mr_Rabies | that the objectives turned red |
| 05:23.06 | Mr_Rabies | like the "can't do that yet" text |
| 05:23.36 | Stanzilla | yeah that's the same "bug" |
| 05:24.01 | Mr_Rabies | i've never seen it before, is it from a recent hotfix or something? |
| 05:24.30 | Stanzilla | nah, had that from day 1 of legion |
| 05:24.48 | Stanzilla | there are just not many things that let you spam that hard |
| 05:28.25 | mckenziemc | coughs on Fisker and hugs Cairenn. |
| 05:31.18 | mckenziemc | 6 comments in 258 lines of code |
| 05:31.22 | mckenziemc | i should get bonus points! |
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| 05:52.00 | mckenziemc | note to self: don't try to clear both nostrils at the same time while having issues with recurring nosebleeds :( |
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| 06:09.58 | Freddie | the code I get to work on probably have more like 6 comments per 25000 lines of code |
| 06:10.13 | Freddie | and at least 2 of those are some form of // wtf is this shit? |
| 06:10.56 | Corrodias | that tells me the code is probably either really good or really bad |
| 06:11.13 | mckenziemc | procedure printMoney(amount: uns16); // security features not included |
| 06:11.18 | mckenziemc | i didn't include that in the count |
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| 06:14.31 | ls- | tbh, we rarely wrote any comments although I used to work in R&D dept of a certain printer/notebook/etc manufacturer... |
| 06:15.14 | Torhal | whispers "Cobalt" to Freddie. |
| 06:15.53 | Freddie | :( |
| 06:16.18 | Freddie | Cobalt is a well-documented playground compared to anything wowdb related |
| 06:16.39 | mckenziemc | rewrites Torhal in COBOL. |
| 06:17.13 | Torhal | transpiles mckenziemc to punch cards then destroys the original. |
| 06:17.40 | ls- | punches the punch card |
| 06:19.46 | mckenziemc | gets stuck in an infinite loop printing DEL in graffiti all over Torhal's house. |
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| 06:26.30 | Torhal | ships mckenziemc express to South Florida. |
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| 07:09.01 | Humbedooh | puts 125 Torhal/pompy 2016 signs on mckenziemc's lawn |
| 07:18.48 | Torhal | Humbedooh: WAT |
| 07:21.38 | ls- | wat, angkor wat |
| 07:23.44 | Humbedooh | Torhal: I have a tape that proves everything |
| 07:23.56 | Torhal | Masking or duct? |
| 07:24.06 | Thunder_Child | Magnetic |
| 07:24.06 | Humbedooh | I'll never say! |
| 07:24.12 | Torhal | :O |
| 07:29.25 | Semlar | there doesn't seem to be a way to get the average item level of a group in the premade finder |
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| 08:26.17 | karl_w_w | why won't hearthstone launch? |
| 08:26.57 | karl_w_w | I just get a black screen :( |
| 08:27.11 | karl_w_w | ah, had to kill agent |
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| 08:34.41 | karl_w_w | fucking buggy client destroyed my 8 win streak momentum |
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| 08:35.05 | Industrial | Hi! |
| 08:35.17 | Industrial | Is there an addon for Legion that can show quests you still have to do on the map? |
| 08:35.39 | Industrial | Also, would that work with Carbonite (if not then I wont use carbonite cause this means a deal to me) |
| 08:36.07 | Industrial | Being sure you've done it all, per zone = so awesome |
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| 09:03.26 | Industrial | Turns out Carbonite itself does that, show questgivers |
| 09:03.28 | Industrial | =D |
| 09:04.37 | Tentacled | foxlit: I guess you're right, securing writes doesn't matter. However, I found something else that's interesting - UIDDM_MENU_VALUE is also tainted (checked ingame) but the taint log doesn't mention it, only UIDDM_MENU_LEVEL... wtf. |
| 09:05.28 | Tentacled | uh, my bad, there it is. |
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| 09:35.00 | Tentacled | Although I certainly realize this is mostly an exercise, but... http://pastebin.com/Kn0umnS2 Better? :P |
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| 09:42.03 | Tentacled | And on a totally different topic - what the heck? https://puu.sh/rBGIU/dc9b797b3d.png This is my quest log on a recently made new toon... |
| 09:50.32 | ls- | https://www.instagram.com/p/BLR5Ji-hQAq/ #justskaterthings :D |
| 09:51.15 | karl_w_w | dirty peeping tom https://i.imgur.com/Lz0IyHQ.jpg |
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| 12:28.53 | znf | When you forget Sol in town and you've pulled too much http://i.imgur.com/NcJwnDk.gifv |
| 12:30.29 | znf | btw, has anyone noticed an issue with the view distance setting in specific scenarios in Stormheim, for example |
| 12:30.48 | znf | You're on a cliff, you look towards the island, you can clearly see it, no "fog of war" |
| 12:31.02 | znf | But when you jump from the cliff (with a glider, for example), everything turns foggy while you get close to it |
| 12:31.17 | znf | Wonder if it's my graphics settings (tough I have view distance set to max) |
| 12:37.13 | nevcairiel | its just how the weather works in some areas, when you stand on a mountain you might be above the fog and when you glide down you get into it |
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| 13:12.04 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/vmoq2Ue.png |
| 13:14.05 | Industrial | can't remember |
| 13:14.07 | Industrial | :D |
| 13:14.15 | foxlit | znf: http://www.npr.org/2016/07/28/487729922/when-a-game-show-contestant-almost-won-too-much-money |
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| 13:15.59 | znf | oh my god, this heated rug is simply heaven |
| 13:16.22 | znf | I have floor tiles all around the house, and they get cold as fuck until the heating is turned on |
| 13:16.32 | znf | and that's about in november, usually |
| 13:16.47 | znf | I bought this heated rug for my desk, I don't want to leave my chair now :D |
| 13:19.04 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.28 | bluspacecow | can build a smart list on tons of conditions ... except the one I want (name of purchaser account) |
| 13:20.05 | bluspacecow | I'm on Windows 10 right now so AppleScript's right out |
| 13:20.37 | foxlit | 1. Buy a mac. |
| 13:20.38 | foxlit | 2. ??? |
| 13:20.43 | foxlit | 3. AppleScript's right in! |
| 13:21.36 | bluspacecow | lol foxy |
| 13:21.56 | foxlit | Maybe I messed up the order there, 3 should be 2 and 2 should be 3. |
| 13:23.06 | bluspacecow | as in why would you use AppleScript ? |
| 13:23.27 | bluspacecow | the dictionarys of possible things to do in iTunes are better. |
| 13:25.51 | znf | they've made Power Rangers actually looking appealing with that trailer |
| 13:47.43 | bluspacecow | "Firefox canât find the server at download.sysinternals.com" |
| 13:47.46 | bluspacecow | wat. |
| 13:47.57 | znf | same here |
| 13:48.17 | nevcairiel | wfm |
| 13:48.47 | nevcairiel | but i dont use firefox |
| 13:48.49 | bluspacecow | ping could not find host |
| 13:48.50 | bluspacecow | wat |
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| 13:56.50 | znf | their dns server is not replying |
| 13:57.11 | znf | [root@giani ~]# dig +short sysinternals.com download.sysinternals.com |
| 13:57.11 | znf | [root@giani ~]# |
| 13:57.15 | znf | nothing! |
| 13:57.34 | bluspacecow | *facepalm* |
| 14:03.40 | pompy | not much info, but https://twitter.com/cmatthewbrooks/status/784581309465112576 |
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| 14:05.51 | bluspacecow | BBL got some graphics cards to install so gonna DDU the old first |
| 14:06.40 | VIad | in siege of orgrimmar, for horde, are the civilians friendly? |
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| 14:11.14 | karl_w_w | they're certainly something |
| 14:18.59 | modernist | neutral or friendly i think |
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| 14:24.13 | VIad | hmm... the vale has gone foreclosure :( http://i.imgur.com/QlCyuxG.png |
| 14:29.09 | VIad | the year is 2150, the fallout has settled, the land is uninhabitable. http://i.imgur.com/VdnuMfV.png http://i.imgur.com/2ecMnrF.png |
| 14:31.11 | VIad | that was funky. the wall isnt here between vale and dread wastes ;d |
| 14:33.42 | Ammako | haha |
| 14:33.52 | Ammako | Fallout: New Pandaria |
| 14:35.20 | VIad | http://i.imgur.com/oDcDfiz.png |
| 14:35.21 | VIad | :d |
| 14:35.42 | VIad | sadly there isnt much in this cutout, most of the nearby zones stop after 100yd |
| 14:36.00 | znf | stop hacking |
| 14:36.28 | Ammako | seems a bit overkill for them to include all of that in when they could have put walls instead |
| 14:36.28 | VIad | I am not. I am just walking |
| 14:37.51 | Ammako | reminds me of EPL under naxxramas |
| 14:38.09 | VIad | naxx EPL has more buildings and foilage |
| 14:38.17 | VIad | this is pretty stripped :p |
| 14:39.10 | VIad | still odd, some very few objects remain. but why? :p http://i.imgur.com/ym9ztAf.png |
| 14:39.48 | Ammako | it's made of a special material that's fairly resistant to nuclear blasts |
| 14:42.51 | VIad | unsure why the sky turned red like that. any parts of the dungeon where its red? :p |
| 14:43.04 | Ammako | that's the nuclear fallout |
| 14:49.50 | znf | what the hell are you doing? |
| 14:50.22 | VIad | znf: ? |
| 14:50.26 | VIad | I am in siege of orgrimmar |
| 14:51.02 | znf | ok |
| 14:51.31 | VIad | you thought I was editing the world files, znf? :p |
| 14:51.41 | znf | no |
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| 15:25.49 | Industrial | Hi. I need 3 addons. Do they exist? 1) Track all new quests. 2) show quest areas (blue) on minimap. 3) Set tomtom arrow to nearest quest? |
| 15:26.42 | nevcairiel | arent the first two basically what the default ui does |
| 15:34.06 | karl_w_w | another one, samsung is fucked http://focustaiwan.tw/news/asoc/201610080009.aspx |
| 15:38.57 | Ammako | that website's layout triggers me |
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| 16:56.31 | modernist | creating two frames with the ButtonFrameTemplate template in one lua file, second instance is only loading half of the textures |
| 16:56.45 | modernist | just missing borders. hmmm |
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| 17:06.35 | nevcairiel | those templates often require the frames to be named, make sure thats the case |
| 17:06.41 | nevcairiel | and distinct names, too ;) |
| 17:07.40 | modernist | yep, just guessed that was issue |
| 17:08.10 | modernist | after noticing it just overwrites the first version |
| 17:09.01 | modernist | i called it xxXxXXXxXMLG_FRAMEXMLxXXXxXxx |
| 17:09.05 | modernist | dinstinct enough for ya |
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| 17:12.06 | VIad | any fotball today? huge ruckus going on outside, _, |
| 17:15.04 | nevcairiel | its the weekend, there is always football on |
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| 17:39.06 | Andols | VIad: Yes Norway vs Azerbaijan |
| 17:40.03 | Andols | And parking was expensive in the city :( |
| 17:46.31 | pompy | https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/news/20293012/watch-the-arena-championship-and-earn-a-new-title |
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| 18:00.28 | Industrial | nevcairiel: I'm not getting the areas on the minimp, just the numbered dots |
| 18:00.44 | Industrial | nevcairiel: and somehow new quests arent tracked. Bet it's a setting then |
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| 18:06.08 | zenzelezz | Industrial: you're a too talented player; the game deemed it OP to let you get those extra clues |
| 18:22.03 | zenzelezz | "It is recommended that you close all other applications while installing". I wonder how long ago that was really true. "It is recommended that you close down specific types of/these specific applications" would be more understandable |
| 18:24.11 | mckenziemc | never, except for slow hard drives / limited ram? |
| 18:25.40 | mckenziemc | maybe not, dunno about dll etc installation |
| 18:25.56 | mckenziemc | in the older, flimsy Windows |
| 18:41.17 | kullervo | it's "all other apps" because end users are stupid af |
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| 18:49.31 | Semlar | we need a hunter pet that works as a summoning stone |
| 18:51.33 | Ironii | any idea why sometimes i can't trade a relic thats not an upgrade for me ? |
| 18:51.39 | Ironii | (ilvl wise) |
| 18:51.48 | Ammako | Only if we get a summoning stone that works as a hunter pet |
| 18:52.07 | Ironii | just got 860 relic from mos+ and i already have 865 equipped, but can't trade the 860 away |
| 18:52.32 | Ammako | is it an upgrade for an off-spec |
| 18:52.50 | Ironii | no, can't use it in any other artifact |
| 18:52.58 | Industrial | zenzelezz: Oh I don't play anymore; I made an addon for that, hah! |
| 18:53.09 | Industrial | (jk) |
| 18:55.56 | fewyn | we had the same problem with gloves last night Ironii |
| 18:55.58 | fewyn | no idea |
| 18:56.08 | nebula | Industrial: https://www.wowace.com/addons/questpointer/ for tomtom arrow, also puts pois on the minimap |
| 18:56.13 | Ironii | i guess i should just make a ticket about it |
| 18:56.18 | Ironii | its 10ilvl upgrade to a guildie |
| 18:56.28 | fewyn | I've been using ConsLegion on my alts when leveling |
| 18:56.37 | fewyn | i basically can play on autopilot |
| 18:56.40 | nebula | if the game doesn't let you trade it gm's don't do shit about that stuff anymore |
| 18:58.23 | Ironii | have you tried? |
| 18:58.44 | Ironii | considering i should be able to trade that item, imo they should help :P |
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| 18:59.43 | nebula | first week with a trinket, i had two that were higher ilvl but i couldn't trade it, gm gave me a ¯\_(ã)_/¯ and said they couldn't do anything about it |
| 19:00.37 | nebula | first raid week, that is |
| 19:00.45 | Ammako | i was able to get a mace traded to someone who should have been eligible for looting it, but wasn't due to a bug |
| 19:01.03 | Ammako | guess it might be hit-and-miss depending on which gm you get |
| 19:01.41 | nebula | with this, it doesn't give you the line on the tooltip about how much time you have left to trade |
| 19:02.09 | Ammako | they're probably flooded with support tickets with the new expansion too so it could be more likely they would choose not to dedicate too much time to that, idk |
| 19:02.38 | Ammako | when i did it was a few months before legion |
| 19:03.28 | Ammako | although i guess "eligible for looting" may not be equivalent to "eligible to be traded to" |
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| 19:06.02 | Ironii | imo its the gamemasters job to fix problems caused by bugs :P |
| 19:07.43 | nebula | i think starting with wod when they added the trade window for stuff, they took the general stance of "if the game doesn't let you do it, we can't do anything about it" |
| 19:08.22 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:08.41 | Iriel | foxlit: its lovely so far |
| 19:09.03 | Iriel | foxlit: Sadly the collectors edition manual is sitting in a box in my office, because I was off at a conference when it arrived |
| 19:09.25 | fewyn | what is this exactly foxlit ? |
| 19:09.32 | fewyn | it looks interesting |
| 19:09.56 | Iriel | fewyn: did you play TIS-100? |
| 19:09.59 | fewyn | no |
| 19:10.04 | Iriel | Inifnifactory? |
| 19:10.07 | fewyn | nope |
| 19:10.21 | fewyn | this looks like something a friend of mine would love tho |
| 19:10.42 | Iriel | Hm, it's a game where you play an electrical engineer - you have to solve problems with a mix of programming very simple processors, and combining components |
| 19:10.54 | Iriel | If this person /might/ like that kind of thing, then I'm pretty sure they WILL |
| 19:10.54 | fewyn | yeah i just watched the video |
| 19:11.10 | fewyn | just linked it to them seems like something they'd typically play |
| 19:11.27 | foxlit | space-constrained assembly programming, essemtially. |
| 19:11.59 | Iriel | with leaderboards, of a kind |
| 19:12.31 | Iriel | The histograms of other people's best efforts make it even more interesting, to me |
| 19:13.16 | foxlit | as with all zachtronics histograms, the resolution seems pretty terrible. |
| 19:15.51 | Iriel | I have a couple of really good TIS-100 players in my friend list, they help keep me grounded |
| 19:19.21 | Cairenn | Reminder: BC UI Community Dinner Signup - http://bit.ly/2dQrh4d |
| 19:23.28 | Fisker | I'm not the biggest fan of the component thing wish I could just do assembly :P |
| 19:24.01 | Iriel | Fisker: that's basically what TIS-100 is |
| 19:24.05 | Fisker | But I guess there's tis-100 for that, just like the looks of shenzhen a lot more |
| 19:24.42 | Fisker | Wish they did more of the graphical on the simulation those things are cool |
| 19:25.08 | Iriel | Fisker: have you ever seen the visual 6502 simulator? |
| 19:25.29 | Fisker | Don't think so |
| 19:26.08 | Iriel | http://www.visual6502.org/JSSim/ |
| 19:28.24 | Fisker | Sick |
| 19:28.51 | Iriel | That has a lot of appeal to me because 6502 was the first assembly language I taught myself to program. |
| 19:29.40 | Fisker | Only assembly I ever did was in these games :P |
| 19:47.27 | Kinesia | Getting weird timing problems... On my server with the _lowest_ latency it's taking over 2 seconds to get each item from the mailbox. The high latency server works fine. |
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| 20:12.30 | mckenziemc | why http://www.zachtronics.com/shenzhen-io/ when you can http://www.microchip.com/design-centers/microcontrollers |
| 20:13.19 | Ressy | woooooww.. |
| 20:13.25 | Ressy | Someone was a dumbass last night. |
| 20:13.54 | Ressy | https://twitter.com/Abrosiabi/status/784808323702939648 |
| 20:16.14 | zenzelezz | I'm repeatedly puzzled by what Youtube tries to push late in the evening. 1-hour ad. No joke. (Skippable as every other) |
| 20:16.35 | Ammako | heh |
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| 20:21.35 | nevcairiel | Ressy: i find it fascinating how those people think a witchhunt on the internet is much better behavior =p |
| 20:22.07 | zenzelezz | that moment when you realize that the "proper" marshmallows you for once shelled out for do in fact not taste as good as the cheap ones |
| 20:23.39 | Constie_ | If that's what you call a witch-hunt then I'd say that is better, yes. |
| 20:24.25 | Ressy | I think his behaviour is douchy. |
| 20:24.47 | nevcairiel | perhaps, personally I think trying to get his name smeared all over the internet is that as well. |
| 20:24.49 | Shockah | ................apparently Eye of Azshara doesn't count towards the 100 dungeons done with the hidden appearance. |
| 20:25.05 | Ressy | nevcairiel: Agreed |
| 20:25.47 | zenzelezz | ^ |
| 20:25.55 | Ressy | These days, social media's everywhere. You should be watching what you're saying. |
| 20:26.17 | mckenziemc | doesn't mean all scrutiny is appropriate |
| 20:26.31 | zenzelezz | remember, people are twice as likely to remember the bad things said about you as they are the good |
| 20:26.44 | Ressy | True |
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| 20:34.19 | Kinesia | You shouldn't say bad things because they are bad. Not because people might hear you and tweet about it. If you're doing it for public perception then you are morally bankrupt to start with |
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| 20:36.18 | Fisker | sneezed |
| 20:37.50 | Seerah | What Kinesia said. :) Same goes for the latest topic in the political news. (Which I won't name) |
| 20:38.02 | Seerah | (*American politics) |
| 20:38.09 | zenzelezz | I don't know; I think by 70 you're beyond redmption |
| 20:38.15 | zenzelezz | and redemption |
| 20:39.24 | Ressy | American Politics these days is just.. blech |
| 20:39.30 | mckenziemc | unfortunately public perception is a major motivator for detractors, and it's too easy to claim moral superiority by criticizing any mistake and not realizing everyone fucks up |
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| 20:39.56 | zenzelezz | one thing I keep hearing is it's "stupid and evil" vs. "stupidly evil" |
| 20:40.07 | zenzelezz | that's my American friends saying it |
| 20:43.57 | Ammako | evilly stupid |
| 20:45.09 | VIad | does nefarian have a DH class call? |
| 20:45.16 | kd3 | only a month. can't wait for this election cycle to finally end |
| 20:45.29 | Ammako | he does |
| 20:46.06 | mckenziemc | kd3: but then there's only a few months till the real trouble |
| 20:46.13 | zenzelezz | kd3: "f'cking flavor-of-the-months, go DIAF" |
| 20:46.27 | kd3 | DHs screens get blacked out |
| 20:47.14 | kd3 | "Demon hunters? How odd, covering your eyes like that. Doesn't it make it hard to see the world around you?" |
| 20:47.16 | zenzelezz | I'm going to pretend I didn't blindly misattribute that |
| 20:47.22 | kd3 | lol |
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| 21:10.35 | PhatsoTGT | uhh |
| 21:10.43 | PhatsoTGT | did something happen to Health? |
| 21:11.07 | PhatsoTGT | i just logged in for the first time today in my Order Hall and i started with 10% HP or so |
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| 21:20.42 | VIad | Ammako: what is the DH call? black screen? |
| 21:20.58 | Ammako | <kd3> DHs screens get blacked out |
| 21:20.58 | Ammako | <kd3> "Demon hunters? How odd, covering your eyes like that. Doesn't it make it hard to see the world around you?" |
| 21:21.02 | VIad | also hunter call breaks bow right |
| 21:21.07 | VIad | what if you go with artifact weapon? |
| 21:21.11 | VIad | artifact doesnt have durability |
| 21:21.17 | VIad | will his call force break it? |
| 21:21.26 | VIad | or is it immune :p |
| 21:22.54 | zenzelezz | it should just delete it |
| 21:23.00 | zenzelezz | "you now only have two spec artifacts remaining" |
| 21:23.06 | zenzelezz | "stop farming old content, scrub" |
| 21:25.24 | Semlar | the replies to this tweet are hilarious |
| 21:25.40 | Semlar | "resign immediately" |
| 21:27.16 | Semlar | i assume these are all just trolls |
| 21:28.11 | Ammako | they're humans sadly. they rolled the wrong faction for that |
| 21:30.39 | Semlar | you may want to reassess yourself if you take that much offense to someone else's actions that don't even involve you |
| 21:32.08 | Semlar | who the fuck attacks someone for apologizing for something |
| 21:35.24 | Semlar | how do you downvote a tweet, this website is horrible |
| 21:35.46 | foxlit | by responding to it. The outrage machine feeds on your outrage. |
| 21:35.58 | Semlar | and then i link it on tumblr? |
| 21:36.29 | Ammako | tweet replying layout is horrible too |
| 21:36.50 | modernist | time downvotes all things |
| 21:38.43 | foxlit | I feel like tumblr-bashing is unreasonable. |
| 21:40.30 | foxlit | (in that you get to choose who you follow, so if you're seing garbage, you're either explicitly looking for it or made some very bad choices) |
| 21:41.03 | Semlar | the replies to that tweet could have been markov chains from tumblr |
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| 21:43.28 | foxlit | It's just people. The people who feel the need to inject their opinion into that conversation probably also enjoy a good echo-chamber which you associate with tumblr. |
| 21:44.01 | Semlar | this gives me an idea for a bot |
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| 21:45.44 | foxlit | can you not turn off the new slider noises on ios10? |
| 21:47.11 | zenzelezz | they are too courageous to let you do that |
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| 21:57.48 | foxlit | well-memed. |
| 22:05.04 | foxlit | in a sane world, the disable keyboard clicks setting would apply to this too, but it doesn't :( |
| 22:08.38 | modernist | sometimes i think that the slide unlock sound is a bit like someone hucking into a spittoon in a western |
| 22:10.19 | Ammako | why cant Google read symbols such as - ugh |
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| 22:15.29 | modernist | Ammako: http://symbolhound.com |
| 22:15.38 | Ammako | +1 |
| 22:23.52 | Ssateneth | What does this symbol mean next to a pvp player nameplate |
| 22:23.53 | Ssateneth | https://gyazo.com/9a202406c3b56a888da115e28a48e137 |
| 22:23.57 | Ssateneth | i've never seen it before |
| 22:24.05 | Ssateneth | i'm familiar with FFA, horde, and alliance |
| 22:24.09 | Ssateneth | but not that one |
| 22:24.43 | Ammako | I've been wondering the same |
| 22:27.04 | Ssateneth | it looks like something gladiator |
| 22:27.08 | Ssateneth | but this is out in the world |
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| 22:38.40 | foxlit | prestiged FFA. |
| 22:41.21 | foxlit | oh, no, just prestiged horde. |
| 22:41.47 | foxlit | ffa would have a wooden shield |
| 22:45.09 | Ssateneth | so i heard you can buy goblin gliders in dalaran? what are they called? |
| 22:45.27 | Ssateneth | not the engineering ones you buy on AH unless they are exactly the same item |
| 22:45.39 | Ssateneth | highmountain is pissing me off with its high mountains |
| 22:45.40 | foxlit | I thought it was parachutes. |
| 22:46.08 | kd3 | just chutes I think, at the portal to dalaran crater |
| 22:46.18 | Ssateneth | whatever they're called. slow fall something |
| 22:47.18 | Ssateneth | not seeing it on wowhead |
| 22:47.33 | Primer | Is there just no way to get the stack count of a bag slot? |
| 22:48.13 | Primer | GetItemCount() returns the total for the item, but I'm looping over the bag items, and when there are more than one of the item...I'd have to jump through hoops to get the correct count |
| 22:48.40 | foxlit | that's impossible, Primer. |
| 22:48.45 | Ammako | im pretty sure they're exactly the same, except for some reason i can't see that vendor anymore |
| 22:49.16 | Ssateneth | [5:47:35pm] <Primer> Is there just no way to get the stack count of a bag slot? |
| 22:49.18 | foxlit | the default ui has to display a stack count somehow. |
| 22:49.28 | Ssateneth | you mean how many bag slots in a bag? |
| 22:49.55 | Primer | I mean the stack count of the item in a specific bag slot |
| 22:50.00 | Ssateneth | i see |
| 22:50.21 | Primer | I have 2 stacks of the same item type that stacks to 5 |
| 22:50.23 | Ssateneth | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetInventoryItemCount |
| 22:50.26 | Ammako | select(2, GetContainerItemInfo(bag, slot)) ? |
| 22:50.39 | Ssateneth | Returns: |
| 22:50.39 | Ssateneth | count - The amount of items stacked in the inventory slot (number) |
| 22:50.40 | Primer | Ssateneth: read the note at the top of that |
| 22:50.47 | Ssateneth | oh |
| 22:50.48 | Ssateneth | only ammo |
| 22:50.53 | Ssateneth | blizz plez fix |
| 22:51.15 | Primer | Ammako: thanks |
| 22:51.16 | Ssateneth | well then how do other addons achieve it? they got it figured out somehow |
| 22:51.31 | Primer | I was searching the API for "count" and "stack" |
| 22:55.12 | Primer | Ssateneth: see what Ammako wrote earlier |
| 22:55.52 | Ssateneth | wtf |
| 22:56.00 | Ssateneth | my dalaran teleport hearth didnt work and it went on cd |
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