| 00:10.03 | znf | meanwhile, I think I broke my tv-box |
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| 00:26.40 | Gnarfoz | anyone know where this is from? http://www.wowhead.com/item=141260/shieldmaidens-prayer :| |
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| 00:28.06 | znf | Gnarfoz, I had one of those from a world quest, afaik |
| 00:28.17 | Gnarfoz | mh. |
| 00:28.43 | Gnarfoz | guess I'll have to farm BRH then :D |
| 00:29.06 | znf | Unless the artifacts from WQs share Icons, I'm 100% sure I got it from a WQ |
| 00:31.50 | znf | uhm, I put a sd-card in my tv-box |
| 00:31.57 | znf | there doesn't seem to be a way to take it out :-/ |
| 00:32.11 | mckenziemc | hammer |
| 00:38.06 | znf | Dear Diary |
| 00:38.08 | znf | It's been 2 hours. |
| 00:38.18 | znf | Since I've been trying to finish this achievement. |
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| 01:03.21 | Ssateneth | Is there an addon for the "Enigma" world quest? |
| 01:08.01 | Stanzilla | your print screen button |
| 01:10.07 | Constie | I just repeat the number of squares to move for each segment to myself. |
| 01:11.30 | Ssateneth | rood |
| 01:15.51 | znf | just keep doing it |
| 01:15.57 | znf | your brain will memorize it eventually |
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| 01:38.20 | ls- | Ssateneth: World Quests List |
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| 02:56.19 | VIad | ls-: Message: Interface\AddOns\ls_Toasts\ls_Toasts.lua:374: SetPortraitToTexture(): Texture is not 64x64 pixels: FileData ID 1269441. |
| 02:56.57 | ls- | wuut? is it a new error in 7.1? O_o |
| 03:05.08 | Simca | no, happens in 7.0.3 |
| 03:05.15 | Simca | it isn't your fault either, happens with no addons |
| 03:05.41 | Simca | the texture in question (AbilityRogue_RollTheBones3) is 256x256 and shouldn't be |
| 03:06.15 | Mr_Rabies | i keep getting c stack overflow, it's driving me nuts |
| 03:06.30 | Mr_Rabies | it's fine most of the time, but once it starts it just goes nuts until i reload ui |
| 03:07.22 | pompy1 | "08:05.13TorhalNeffi: Blizzard is evil. Yes. Evil. " SetPortraitToTexture(): image must be 64x64 pixels"" |
| 03:07.23 | pompy1 | heh |
| 03:08.44 | AmiYuy | Stanzilla, znf, tz: We put out a new alpha with a throttle for CanIMogIt to try and prevent the #134 crash. Let me know if it still happens please. |
| 03:09.07 | ls- | Simca: ah, k... damn.. |
| 03:09.28 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 03:09.54 | znf | mkay |
| 03:16.19 | Mr_Rabies | oh that's interesting |
| 03:16.39 | Mr_Rabies | there's a world quest that flashes back to the war of the ancients in a remade version of old azshara |
| 03:23.34 | znf | BAH |
| 03:23.48 | znf | I fucked up |
| 03:24.07 | znf | you can use the fishes that grant +AP without having the Fishing Artifact equipped |
| 03:24.09 | Constie | Is there an addon that makes the dungeon journal bigger and more readable? |
| 03:24.24 | ls- | damn, I got sunburn yesterday T_T |
| 03:24.25 | znf | ...in which case, you lose the +AP |
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| 03:29.37 | ls- | I'm red as lobster :((( |
| 03:34.18 | Constie | That's what happens when you go outside. |
| 03:40.51 | znf | oh. |
| 03:40.54 | znf | They buffed DPS potions |
| 03:54.01 | ls- | Constie: I like going outside T_T |
| 03:55.10 | Rythal | Outside is scary |
| 03:55.20 | Rythal | there's this giant ball of fire in the sky that i'm sure wants to kill me |
| 04:10.49 | kullervo | Rythal: I wear these pieces of dark plastic on my face, helps a lot |
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| 04:36.26 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: Yours complain about nameplate 17? |
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| 05:20.10 | Mr_Rabies | nah, just c stack overflow |
| 05:23.28 | Xuerian | Well see if you can repeat it by mousing over nameplates when it starts happening. A couple of us have been having them in here but haven't figured out what it is. |
| 05:32.46 | ls- | being a king of kobolds is one of my fav things in Legion :p |
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| 06:27.39 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBWnYlDOUdk |
| 06:27.43 | karl_w_w | yeah that's awesome |
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| 06:36.40 | Trela | They are insane! |
| 06:54.26 | ls- | damn... and I prefer simple membrane keyboards w/ no led hl or anything like that T_T |
| 06:55.48 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 06:55.59 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 10:25.02 | VIad | kek.exe http://ss.bool.no/capture_1474107895.png |
| 10:25.22 | nevcairiel | its raining so much, the fish swim through the sky |
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| 10:27.15 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/vCqRpf7.gifv |
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| 10:29.10 | ls- | damn, I haven't been to Russia since 2006 or so, and now a company from Russia offered me some nice job T_T dunno what to do... |
| 10:31.03 | karl_w_w | use the offer to barter with your current/other potential employers |
| 10:31.43 | ls- | no one gives a shit :p |
| 10:33.11 | ls- | like who cares? :D programmers these days aren't that rare... |
| 10:33.39 | VIad | but can you code web services in fortran? |
| 10:33.57 | VIad | or rest api in basic |
| 10:34.57 | ls- | I'm a poor peasant, ofc I can't :p |
| 10:35.08 | Yoshimo | i have a couple of warnings "you aren' in a party" , i think this is an addon trying to send messages. Wasn't there a debug addon that found the offending sender? |
| 10:36.53 | VIad | it was a joke, I hope you don't code web stuff in fortran or basic |
| 10:37.10 | ls- | ikr, and i don't :D |
| 10:37.22 | VIad | yes Yoshimo |
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| 10:37.54 | ls- | and tbh, I'm trying to stay away from web development for as long as I can, although almost all of my friends are web devs T_T |
| 10:39.02 | VIad | less to do with staying away and probably more with job offers? |
| 10:40.35 | ls- | well... I'm doing simple things, like low level programming, e.g. writing firmware for printers, scanners and some other shit, and neural nets-related stuff :p |
| 10:41.06 | ls- | so I neither get offers from web dev companies, nor I seek them... |
| 10:43.04 | VIad | Yoshimo: /run hooksecurefunc("SendAddonMessage",function(_,_,c)if(c=="RAID"and not IsInRaid())or(c=="PARTY"and not IsInGroup())then print(debugstack())end end) |
| 10:45.03 | ls- | but I want to switch to game dev, hahaha :D although salaries are much lower, it's much more entertaining. |
| 10:46.32 | VIad | I'd assume C++ is the shit in game dev |
| 10:47.12 | ls- | well, that's what I use at work too... |
| 10:47.42 | ls- | well, when I don't write some nasty low level things... |
| 10:50.54 | VIad | ugh. blizz still make pet items different color than the actual pet inside :/ |
| 10:50.56 | VIad | I dont know why |
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| 10:53.20 | ls- | I have an idea, I should check openings in Blizzard, ahaha :D |
| 10:54.39 | VIad | they are so big and have "small" dev teams, they probably get thousands of applications from people with 20+ years in development and doctorate degrees :p |
| 10:55.32 | VIad | and anything "fresh out from graduation" type deal would instantly get full with applications |
| 11:07.45 | ls- | meh, senior engineer openings, senior engineer openings everywhere :D |
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| 11:32.10 | VIad | are you supposed to be able to cancel the shield in halls of valor? |
| 11:32.15 | VIad | the ragnarok shield for group |
| 11:32.21 | VIad | I got one spell that cancels it if I use it :p |
| 11:33.00 | VIad | if I use fel devestation I override the shield channel and my group dies :p |
| 11:33.14 | VIad | just wondering if its an exception or if all can override the shield |
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| 11:55.05 | VIad | hmm |
| 11:55.12 | VIad | I have a world quest that is flagged completed >_> |
| 11:55.30 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1474113328.png |
| 11:55.36 | VIad | how do I turn in a WQ? :p |
| 11:55.45 | VIad | I havent even killed the mob today |
| 11:57.09 | VIad | LOL |
| 11:57.28 | zenzelezz | open your quest log and see where it tells you to return to |
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| 12:05.44 | VIad | nope |
| 12:05.54 | VIad | I had to go to where the WQ "boss" spawns |
| 12:05.59 | VIad | some had killed it, so waited for spawn |
| 12:06.02 | VIad | WQ just completed |
| 12:06.06 | VIad | as the npc spawned |
| 12:06.22 | VIad | question is why didnt it reset the progress for today? I did that WQ yesterday :p |
| 12:07.17 | p3lim | ls-: ls_Toasts\ls_Toasts-1.06.lua:374: SetPortraitToTexture(): Texture is not 64x64 pixels: FileData ID 1269441. |
| 12:07.38 | p3lim | That was the previous version though, don't know if it's fixed for the one you released today |
| 12:09.36 | nevcairiel | VIad: shara felbreath in particular is a bit buggy, i've had that problem with that particular quest before, sometimes you just need to leave and re-enter the area for it to finish completely |
| 12:14.42 | nevcairiel | the interesting part is that it actually completes before - ie. I went there earlier today because I was still lacking like 30 rep for wardens, i completed it and got to revered, got the achievement and everything |
| 12:14.48 | nevcairiel | and now it shows again as basically complete |
| 12:14.48 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 12:15.37 | mfgmfg | VIad, i had the same thing happen with magister phaedris |
| 12:15.55 | modernist | p3lim: where did you get that error? there was a report about it happening in highmountain on the default toasts yesterday |
| 12:15.57 | VIad | :d |
| 12:16.07 | p3lim | modernist: don't remember |
| 12:16.31 | modernist | a toenail was the wrong size or something |
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| 12:25.09 | VIad | nevcairiel: trying 13 withered today |
| 12:27.52 | Industrial | Hi. So I got lots of artifact power now for the build I'm not using while leveling |
| 12:27.59 | Industrial | and I have both artifacts (DH) |
| 12:28.05 | Industrial | Where do I upgrade the artifact? |
| 12:32.23 | VIad | the army traning is a bit buggy |
| 12:32.33 | VIad | in berserk mode the guys lock up in random positions and stack up :/ |
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| 12:34.51 | ls- | p3lim: pls, ask blizz to fix API :p |
| 12:35.07 | ls- | or texture resolutions... |
| 12:37.45 | VIad | it's easy to start with 12 guys |
| 12:38.02 | VIad | slower, sure, but its economical |
| 12:38.34 | ls- | p3lim, modernist, as Simca said earlier "10:05:13 AM Simca it isn't your fault either, happens with no addons; 10:05:39 AM Simca the texture in question (AbilityRogue_RollTheBones3) is 256x256 and shouldn't be" |
| 12:39.16 | ls- | the only thing I can possibly do is to resize and replace textures that cause errors... |
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| 12:41.15 | ls- | https://twitter.com/mariofusco/status/772351468036886528 ahaha :D |
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| 12:48.30 | foxlit | ls-: well, you *could* hardcode a list of textures you cannot call that function on and prevent the error that way. |
| 12:48.40 | ls- | yeah... |
| 12:49.52 | ls- | I could use hardcoded textures... like a coin icon for money, xp icon for xp and chest icon for items... |
| 12:50.16 | ls- | well, I already use hardcoded textures for money and xp... |
| 12:50.23 | ls- | I guess, I'll release a small hotfix :p |
| 12:51.39 | foxlit | the coldest hotfix ever. |
| 12:52.12 | ls- | haha :D |
| 12:52.22 | ls- | well, I released an update few hours ago... |
| 12:52.32 | ls- | so it's sorta hotfix :D |
| 13:01.11 | VIad | foxlit: pcall? |
| 13:02.28 | ls- | Vlad: hory shet! |
| 13:03.00 | VIad | ? |
| 13:03.31 | ls- | I completely forgot about pcall.... |
| 13:04.37 | VIad | I wrap my addons in pcall and just ignore errors |
| 13:07.49 | ls- | Vlad: <3 |
| 13:08.44 | zenzelezz | VIad: you were one of those "On Error Resume Next" VB-coders, weren't you |
| 13:12.45 | VIad | when blizzards api dont return nil and trigger a on screen error :p |
| 13:12.49 | VIad | then what to do? |
| 13:24.51 | VIad | also VB has NO other way of error handling :p |
| 13:25.05 | VIad | at least when using it in excel :p |
| 13:25.43 | nevcairiel | thats VBA, not VB |
| 13:25.56 | nevcairiel | also, just do validation isntead of error handling |
| 13:26.02 | nevcairiel | its the better approach anyway |
| 13:26.25 | VIad | right |
| 13:26.43 | VIad | hard to do some weird excel calls and validate beforehand |
| 13:26.58 | VIad | for example office 365 get a remote file, just gotta try and see what happens :p |
| 13:28.12 | VIad | nevcairiel: got mining? |
| 13:33.03 | VIad | trying to find a quick way to lvl it |
| 13:33.10 | VIad | mining with my DH since legion started |
| 13:33.14 | VIad | 323/800 ,_, |
| 13:33.39 | VIad | can smelt like 120 ghost iron bars, but need 500 lol |
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| 13:44.13 | nevcairiel | there really is no reason to skill gathering professions quickly, it doesnt yield any advantages |
| 13:45.30 | nevcairiel | but all my chars had draenor-maxed professions either way |
| 13:46.08 | ls- | p3lim, modernist, I "fixed" that nasty error in 1.08 :p should be fine now... |
| 13:55.37 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't seem to be any advantage to skilling any profession quickly |
| 13:55.50 | Mr_Rabies | well, i take that back |
| 13:55.57 | Mr_Rabies | some really high end recipes require like 700 |
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| 14:14.50 | znf | some require 800 |
| 14:17.08 | Mr_Rabies | that was a weird dream |
| 14:17.50 | Mr_Rabies | i've been seeing a trend of flash ads trying to inject malware on a few sites, and in my dream i read that it wasn't actually the website, but malware on the computer injecting the ads onto webpages |
| 14:18.07 | Mr_Rabies | locally, through the browser |
| 14:18.52 | Mr_Rabies | so i woke up, checked the place i read it in my dream, realized it obviously wasn't there, and simultaneously got disappointed and relieved |
| 14:21.27 | znf | Is anyone else experiencing issues with the guy in the order hall taking work orders for champion gear? |
| 14:21.50 | znf | If there's an work order ready, sometimes after you loot the chest, you can't interact with the work order guy until you re-zone |
| 14:22.15 | znf | That also happens with Nomi once in a while |
| 14:22.21 | ls- | "talk" to your adventure map and then to this guy again... |
| 14:22.43 | ls- | there's a similar bug back in WoD |
| 14:23.00 | zenzelezz | I haven't had that exact issue, but Nomi has sometimes decided to give me a cold shoulder; so I moved out of interaction range and back, and it was fine |
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| 14:24.40 | znf | ok, so I'm not the only one |
| 14:25.20 | ls- | welp, yeah |
| 14:26.59 | Mr_Rabies | i wish i could do work orders for gear in mine |
| 14:27.10 | Mr_Rabies | instead mine just has a chance on mission success to get gear :( |
| 14:27.14 | Mr_Rabies | which seems absurdly low |
| 14:33.20 | Semlar | Torhal: do you still have to do shenanigans to get a list of what recipes a player knows |
| 14:38.15 | Semlar | like you have to actually "cast" cooking to even use any of the api functions? |
| 14:41.52 | Semlar | nevermind it looks like they added C functions |
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| 14:52.16 | mfgmfg | Semlar, /run for _,i in pairs(C_TradeSkillUI.GetAllRecipeIDs()) do local r=C_TradeSkillUI.GetRecipeInfo(i) if r.name=="Warhide Pants" and r.learned then C_TradeSkillUI.CraftRecipe(i) end end |
| 14:52.49 | mfgmfg | Pretty simple |
| 14:53.23 | Semlar | i see |
| 15:02.47 | foxlit | (but you still have to cast Cooking?) |
| 15:03.42 | Semlar | it looks like you can just do C_TradeSkillUI.OpenTradeSkill(195128) now |
| 15:04.37 | foxlit | are those ids stable across ranks? |
| 15:05.01 | Semlar | that's my spellID for cooking, i have no idea if it's different for other ranks |
| 15:05.20 | Semlar | i can probably get that from another api function |
| 15:06.15 | Semlar | i wanted to get a list of every recipe that could be learned from nomi that the player didn't already know |
| 15:06.40 | Semlar | and then put a number next to them in his dialog |
| 15:06.55 | Semlar | for the different ingredients |
| 15:07.17 | foxlit | this likely involves silly amounts of localization |
| 15:07.51 | Semlar | i may only need nomi's name which i can get from his npcID |
| 15:08.09 | Semlar | although i guess his dialog options will be a problem |
| 15:08.28 | Semlar | eh, i can get the ingredient name |
| 15:08.48 | foxlit | and then fail to match it against the gossip text. |
| 15:08.58 | karl_w_w | it's annoying when you're trying to find a picture of frankenstein so you google it, and all you can find is pictures of his creation |
| 15:09.06 | foxlit | Welcome to languages with declension. |
| 15:09.30 | Semlar | well that sounds like somebody else's problem |
| 15:10.00 | foxlit | shouldn't he just stop offering to do research which doesn't lead to anything? |
| 15:10.12 | Semlar | you'd think that, i have no idea |
| 15:10.32 | Semlar | nomi's whole setup is really annoying |
| 15:10.46 | znf | I really want to know why PvP talents don't activate in that damn blackrook hold arena |
| 15:10.57 | foxlit | the gossip system should have IDs :P |
| 15:12.18 | Semlar | it'd be nice if it just told you what recipes you were burning next to the dialog |
| 15:12.32 | Semlar | instead of just throwing food at the guy and seeing what happens |
| 15:12.48 | foxlit | grumble, world quests keep spawning for dungeons I already have mythic locks to. |
| 15:15.19 | znf | Semlar, nomi can jump off a fucking cliff |
| 15:16.29 | znf | ...useless panda |
| 15:18.32 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=107076/bouncy |
| 15:22.14 | ls- | damn, whenever I mention irc IRL, people often say "who tf uses irc nowadays?" or "irc- what?" T_T |
| 15:22.59 | zenzelezz | then you tell them it's like ships meeting at sea |
| 15:23.07 | Mr_Rabies | it's one of the few bastions of the internet left without normies ruining everything |
| 15:24.58 | znf | what to do, Stanzilla? http://i.imgur.com/CoauHWE.png |
| 15:26.27 | foxlit | znf: clearly the item level trumps everything. |
| 15:26.36 | znf | it's just +2 |
| 15:26.47 | Fisker | Do it znf |
| 15:26.58 | Fisker | Just do it |
| 15:26.58 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.14 | karl_w_w | http://metrocosm.com/whats-across-the-ocean/ |
| 15:27.38 | foxlit | (but relic comparisons suck, since they show you the current trait value and not the actual effect of replacing the relic) |
| 15:30.35 | znf | https://gfycat.com/PessimisticAdorableGreatwhiteshark |
| 15:30.40 | znf | need more tentacles |
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| 15:31.58 | Semlar | i can't learn this recipe that dropped because it requires rep |
| 15:32.59 | Fisker | That thing still exists? |
| 15:33.05 | Fisker | Which addon is that again |
| 15:33.47 | zenzelezz | one of these days I'll look up what the heck harambe actually is |
| 15:34.02 | Semlar | a dead horse |
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| 15:35.02 | Fisker | Not really Semlar |
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| 15:42.23 | mckenziemc | a dead Fisker |
| 15:47.12 | ls- | harambe is love, harambe is life |
| 15:48.02 | mckenziemc | kills ls-. |
| 15:48.33 | ls- | ls- resurrects. |
| 15:48.37 | ls- | ugh |
| 15:48.41 | ls- | forgot about /me T_T |
| 15:48.43 | ls- | whatevs.. |
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| 15:51.57 | Stanzilla | znf: dunno, 2 ilvl is not that much |
| 15:54.06 | znf | that's what I was thinking |
| 15:56.58 | Stanzilla | rogues ignore up to 20 ilvl if the trait is wrong |
| 15:57.01 | Stanzilla | which is kinda insane |
| 15:57.12 | nevcairiel | rogue scaling with stats is fucking broken |
| 15:57.22 | nevcairiel | if your main stat is vesatility, you already know that your stats stink |
| 15:57.42 | fewyn | shhh |
| 15:58.18 | fewyn | http://i.imgur.com/A7rt8eR.png |
| 16:01.58 | Semlar | item level is almost the only thing that matters for marksmanship |
| 16:09.55 | Fisker | I miss Stanzilla |
| 16:11.47 | ls- | my ore dilemma: prospect or sell? |
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| 16:23.49 | zenzelezz | ls-: prospect *and* sell |
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| 16:29.35 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=227635/cover-of-darkness = 65%? 22.5%? 30%? 50%? :D |
| 16:30.59 | nevcairiel | usually those are multiplicative |
| 16:31.15 | nevcairiel | so 22.5 |
| 16:31.34 | Gnarfoz | (also guildie says "20% baseline" not sure what that is about) |
| 16:31.46 | nevcairiel | was probably nerfed |
| 16:32.08 | Gnarfoz | I thought having to wait for a tooltip change was in the past now :( |
| 16:32.27 | nevcairiel | maybe it was buffed then and wowhead doesnt know? |
| 16:32.27 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 16:33.11 | Gnarfoz | is this WoW or some other shit game where you have to guess at everything? :C |
| 16:33.24 | nevcairiel | its not wows fault that wowhead is falling apart |
| 16:33.31 | Gnarfoz | true |
| 16:34.51 | Gnarfoz | http://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=209426/darkness#changelog |
| 16:34.57 | Gnarfoz | looks like it was buffed |
| 16:35.10 | nevcairiel | yeah they just failed to track the hotfix that did so |
| 16:45.36 | Mr_Rabies | <nevcairiel> its not wows fault that wowhead is falling apart |
| 16:45.42 | Mr_Rabies | well, it sorta is |
| 16:45.58 | Mr_Rabies | the sharp decline during late cata made tencent get real antsy |
| 16:46.20 | Mr_Rabies | so they fired everyone and basically all the zam sites are a shambling corpse |
| 16:47.34 | _Kee | Gnarfoz "Increase Effect #1 Value |
| 16:47.34 | _Kee | Value: +50" I bet 65%, |
| 16:48.27 | Gnarfoz | I don't see a + there |
| 16:48.39 | Gnarfoz | "modifies" and "50" |
| 16:48.50 | _Kee | http://www.wowdb.com/spells/227635-cover-of-darkness |
| 16:48.53 | _Kee | huh? |
| 16:49.13 | Gnarfoz | well, see above about wowhead. :P |
| 16:49.36 | _Kee | I don't trust wowhead about values, they are outdated. |
| 16:49.55 | Gnarfoz | not really, but their display is too vague, as evident here |
| 16:49.59 | _Kee | or shows something like 6 damage, instead of 6 + 25% of spell power, etc. |
| 16:54.48 | Semlar | you should make a plugin that adds wowhead comments to wowdb pages |
| 17:01.11 | Gnarfoz | I like this very up to date and accurate company information http://www.bloomberg.com/Research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapid=105653980 |
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| 17:14.03 | Mr_Rabies | <Semlar> you should make a plugin that adds wowhead comments to wowdb pages |
| 17:14.18 | Mr_Rabies | i just have a userscript that redirects to wowhead for now, personally :v |
| 17:14.25 | Mr_Rabies | as long as wowhead's still around, at least |
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| 17:16.34 | zenzelezz | is there signs of it going away? |
| 17:16.42 | zenzelezz | or are |
| 17:16.55 | Mr_Rabies | who knows, tencent is basically the worst |
| 17:20.34 | zenzelezz | oh, it's part of tencent now? |
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| 17:24.23 | Fisker | hey Seeker` |
| 17:24.25 | Fisker | damnit |
| 17:24.27 | Fisker | hey Seerah |
| 17:24.42 | Seerah | hi, Fisker :) |
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| 17:27.17 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Fisker |
| 17:27.21 | purl | Fisker: FAIL! |
| 17:27.26 | Fisker | don't be jersk |
| 17:27.41 | Thunder_Child | I learned from you. |
| 17:28.28 | Mr_Rabies | zenzelezz: tencent bought zam years ago |
| 17:28.49 | Mr_Rabies | the fact they partially bankrolled the wow movie was pretty hilarious, though |
| 17:29.18 | bluspacecow | "Mr. Karen Cairenn Hobson" |
| 17:29.20 | Mr_Rabies | and yeah, since they own riot, it pretty much means whatever LoL-related zam site is out there isn't really a fansite |
| 17:29.20 | bluspacecow | wat. |
| 17:29.41 | bluspacecow | "Mr Dolby" |
| 17:29.42 | zenzelezz | Mr_Rabies: I (apparently) don't pay attention to such things |
| 17:29.45 | bluspacecow | sounds like a house elf |
| 17:30.48 | bluspacecow | BBL |
| 17:30.49 | Mr_Rabies | Thank you for the sock, master, Dolby is freeeeee |
| 17:30.58 | Mr_Rabies | gonna start a website and get bought out by the chinese |
| 17:31.14 | Semlar | Mr_Rabies: well, wowdb has actual information on their pages, whereas wowhead is only sort of working for a lot of things |
| 17:31.32 | Semlar | the only thing wowhead has going for it right now are comments |
| 17:31.40 | Mr_Rabies | that's really all i care about anyway |
| 17:31.45 | dolby | lol that info is not correct at all |
| 17:31.55 | dolby | no one on that list actually still works at ZAM anymore |
| 17:32.12 | Mr_Rabies | and erorus singlehandedly makes wowhead really neat |
| 17:32.18 | dolby | not to mention i was never the co-founder of zam |
| 17:32.24 | mckenziemc | what are you going on about bluvedgingonTVco |
| 17:32.26 | Mr_Rabies | once he leaves, that site is probably dead :v |
| 17:32.54 | Mr_Rabies | other than like one engineer per two sites, everyone left otherwise is basically a pretty face for youtube videos |
| 17:33.17 | dolby | but yeah mmoui is not part of zam, incase you missed the announcement last year |
| 17:33.29 | dolby | we are on our own |
| 17:33.32 | Mr_Rabies | i'm so glad you guys got it back |
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| 17:35.00 | dolby | Thanks, me too :) |
| 17:35.01 | Semlar | i mean if you want to see what quest http://www.wowhead.com/item=141188/broken-warden-helm starts, you're basically SoL |
| 17:35.14 | Semlar | whereas http://www.wowdb.com/items/141188-broken-warden-helm actually lists it |
| 17:36.05 | Semlar | wowdb is a more functional website right now, but it doesn't have comments because nobody uses it |
| 17:38.45 | p3lim | I use wowdb for the accuracy, wowhead for comments |
| 17:38.49 | fewyn | i really need to use wowdb more |
| 17:38.54 | fewyn | if only i could mash the two together |
| 17:39.48 | p3lim | Although navigating is better on wowhead, but that might just be because I'm used to it |
| 17:40.04 | Semlar | just make a browser plugin that re-themes wowdb to look darker and edgier and embed wowhead comments |
| 17:40.34 | p3lim | Wowhead screenshots are useful too sometimes |
| 17:40.44 | p3lim | Having the direct link to wowhead on wowdb is good enough for me |
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| 17:42.59 | fewyn | i'm not sure if i like the warlock affliction artifact ability |
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| 17:47.56 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.42 | Fisker | rekt foxlit |
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| 17:51.33 | Stanzilla | hey foxlit when masterplan for order hall missions? :) |
| 17:53.11 | foxlit | I'm not sure if it's necessary. |
| 17:53.23 | nevcairiel | i dont think it is |
| 17:53.32 | Gnarfoz | I think it would be helpful |
| 17:53.37 | Stanzilla | ^ |
| 17:53.55 | Gnarfoz | 5 followers with up to 2 items, 4 troops, and all of them with various buffs |
| 17:54.03 | Gnarfoz | (meaning inter-dependencies) |
| 17:54.27 | nevcairiel | just figure it out, doesnt need to be perfect :p |
| 17:54.34 | Gnarfoz | it does |
| 17:54.41 | foxlit | I currently have... 1 available mission. |
| 17:54.51 | Gnarfoz | I had 6 when I logged in, 4 now |
| 17:54.54 | Gnarfoz | 3 ongoing |
| 17:55.00 | Stanzilla | and I |
| 17:55.08 | Stanzilla | m sure they will expand the system |
| 17:55.10 | Stanzilla | with patches |
| 17:55.16 | nevcairiel | doubtful |
| 17:55.25 | nevcairiel | they have actively said they dont want to focus on it, again |
| 17:55.26 | Gnarfoz | they said they're not planning to up the cap of 5 actives |
| 17:55.45 | Gnarfoz | they said they're going to add more champions, though |
| 17:56.14 | nevcairiel | but those are just for story and whatnot, it doesnt really make the system more complex |
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| 17:58.50 | Gnarfoz | I'm currently optimizing for max bonus % on the artifact power missions |
| 17:58.55 | Gnarfoz | since they've been nicely buffed |
| 18:02.32 | foxlit | it's all very dubious as far as determining your intentions is concerned. |
| 18:02.46 | foxlit | Is prolonging the mission by 6 hours worth 10% extra success chance? |
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| 18:16.16 | mckenziemc | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:I-40W-Sunflowers.jpg |
| 18:16.44 | mckenziemc | and i thought the pet thing in WoW was a nuisance |
| 18:17.44 | Arrowmaster | yay death threats |
| 18:18.31 | Arrowmaster | might have to file a police report on this later |
| 18:19.07 | Mr_Rabies | wat |
| 18:19.27 | znf | FUCK THE FUCKING NOPE ZONE GOD DAMN IT StuPID QUEST DESIGNER |
| 18:19.39 | Stanzilla | umad |
| 18:19.40 | p3lim | znf is in suramar |
| 18:19.42 | Arrowmaster | i sent an asshole into a meltdown and hes sending me death treats that he will come to my house |
| 18:20.08 | znf | I'm mad because I can't rezz |
| 18:20.32 | znf | if I rezz, I get 1902873012983 mobs on me |
| 18:20.47 | p3lim | sounds like suramar alright |
| 18:21.09 | karl_w_w | https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5372vt/what_profession_loses_all_credibility_when_you/ |
| 18:41.36 | znf | Stanzilla, tentacles? https://gfycat.com/PessimisticAdorableGreatwhiteshark |
| 18:41.47 | znf | btw, I used that item today from the priest altar that makes your insanity not drain for 10 minutes |
| 18:41.56 | znf | ~550-600k dps single target :D |
| 18:42.02 | Stanzilla | hot |
| 18:42.05 | Stanzilla | I just got the fox mount |
| 18:42.22 | znf | Where the hell do you even get the chest anymore? |
| 18:42.33 | Stanzilla | you can get that from emmisary chests too |
| 18:42.51 | znf | Oh. |
| 18:42.52 | znf | Cool. |
| 18:43.05 | znf | adding +1 to mounts you'll never use :D |
| 18:43.32 | Stanzilla | I use it |
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| 18:43.52 | znf | for what concerns me, I have 2 mounts |
| 18:43.55 | znf | the water strider |
| 18:44.02 | znf | and the obsidian nightwing |
| 18:44.14 | znf | also, vendor mount from old dalaran |
| 18:44.18 | znf | but that's rare :D |
| 18:45.32 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/M95V4AT.jpg |
| 18:45.36 | Stanzilla | the horse is random mount |
| 18:45.43 | Stanzilla | from my favs |
| 18:46.47 | Stanzilla | but yeah it's mostly waterstrider |
| 18:51.15 | znf | Stanzilla, you think they're going to nerf S2M? |
| 18:56.20 | Stanzilla | we already talked about that yesterday |
| 18:56.26 | Stanzilla | my opinion has not changed since then :D |
| 18:59.16 | znf | I don't remember! |
| 18:59.21 | znf | I'm old! I'm 30! |
| 19:24.46 | znf | Stanzilla, I'm reading that Shadowform=+10% and then Voidform is another 20% |
| 19:24.57 | znf | Why are people reading it that there's no change in damage overall? |
| 19:26.34 | Stanzilla | because retarded |
| 19:31.29 | Ketho | hugs Seerah |
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| 19:37.09 | fewyn | does anyone know anything about replacing fans/coolers on video cards in here? |
| 19:41.28 | znf | remove plug, replace, put it back? |
| 19:41.59 | fewyn | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026R this is my video card, the stock fans have a problem where if they get above 30-40% speed they start rattling |
| 19:42.04 | fewyn | i don't even know where to begin znf |
| 19:42.10 | fewyn | like where to buy replacement ones |
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| 19:43.00 | znf | it's tricky to find a replacement fan |
| 19:43.03 | znf | some have custom ones |
| 19:43.40 | fewyn | i've been dealing with this rattling for 2 years and it's getting real bad now :/ |
| 19:44.18 | fewyn | i should probably just replace the card it's approaching 3 years of pretty much non-stop use but i don't have the $$$ and thought this might be cheaper to replace the fans/cooling |
| 19:44.22 | znf | your first step is taking it out of the pc |
| 19:44.27 | znf | and see if the fan is detachable |
| 19:44.43 | znf | some have a system of clips and other plastic bits that are usually flexible and you can take it apart |
| 19:44.47 | znf | without breaking anything |
| 19:45.09 | znf | then you need to be in luck - you need the same kind of fan - same size and at least the same RPM |
| 19:45.47 | Gnarfoz | http://www.ebay.com/itm/85mm-Sapphire-AMD-Radeon-HD7970-HD7950-HD7870-HD7850-Dual-X-Fan-Replacement-40mm-/171267034859 |
| 19:46.23 | znf | https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/accelero-xtreme-iv-280-x.html |
| 19:46.40 | znf | cool ^ |
| 19:46.42 | znf | what Gnarfoz linked |
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| 19:47.09 | fewyn | i wonder if that would stop the rattling |
| 19:47.22 | znf | depends on where the issue comes from |
| 19:47.23 | Gnarfoz | no idea, I just googled SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7950 replacement fan ^^ |
| 19:47.29 | znf | if the bearings are fucked up, it will stop it |
| 19:48.08 | fewyn | it's a common problem afaik with this specific card |
| 19:48.21 | znf | also, those are chinese replacements, so who knows what you'll be getting |
| 19:50.43 | fewyn | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP8Js8d8w6s |
| 19:50.48 | fewyn | i never saw this |
| 19:52.54 | znf | oh my god |
| 19:52.57 | znf | I can't watch that video |
| 19:53.17 | zenzelezz | Gnarfoz: "Sapphire" and "replacement fan" brings back memories of my first ever expensive video card... the Radeon 9700 Pro |
| 19:53.52 | znf | that guy talks so slow, I fell asleep twice in 1 minute |
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| 19:54.29 | zenzelezz | also, does the 7950 go by any other name? |
| 19:56.21 | fewyn | it was the version just before the first R series |
| 19:56.26 | znf | that's guide an old card |
| 19:56.47 | fewyn | i got this card in oct 2013 about 1-2 months before they came out |
| 19:56.56 | zenzelezz | well, I believe my Radeon 285 also went by a 7xxx name |
| 19:57.30 | zenzelezz | right now I have some R9 Fury, but no idea which exact one |
| 20:04.50 | fewyn | i'm not actually sure if replacing the fans is going to fix this now :/ |
| 20:04.56 | fewyn | after reading some comments again on the issue |
| 20:06.23 | znf | it's time for a new card |
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| 20:07.29 | mckenziemc | if only he hadn't upgraded his phone! |
| 20:09.13 | fewyn | my phone upgrade only cost me 20$ mckenziemc |
| 20:09.23 | fewyn | i didn't really spend anything extra /right/ now |
| 20:09.38 | mckenziemc | that doesn't matter |
| 20:09.42 | znf | you weirdos and your mobile plans costing $100/mo |
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| 20:09.57 | mckenziemc | you still have a financial obligation |
| 20:10.04 | fewyn | mine isn't anywhere near that |
| 20:10.12 | fewyn | we have 3 phones for 250$ a month |
| 20:10.14 | fewyn | all iphones |
| 20:10.20 | fewyn | unlimited everything |
| 20:10.22 | fewyn | no data caps |
| 20:10.35 | znf | holy fuck $250 |
| 20:10.43 | Torhal | I'mma put a data cap in yo ass! |
| 20:10.57 | Torhal | I pay $3/month for my plan. |
| 20:11.01 | znf | I pay 6€/mo |
| 20:11.16 | fewyn | we're paying for the phones in installements instead of upfront |
| 20:11.20 | Torhal | It has 30 minutes or 30 text messages (or a mix that adds up to 30) |
| 20:11.25 | znf | the only limit I have is that after 10GB of data on 3G and 30GB of data on 4G, they throttle my speed |
| 20:11.37 | fewyn | if we "paid" off the phones we'd be paying 160ish |
| 20:12.12 | mckenziemc | a big part of why companies push installment plans is that people undervalue contractual debt |
| 20:12.30 | fewyn | i'm going to end up paying off my phone early this time |
| 20:12.36 | fewyn | to drop down the monthly |
| 20:13.02 | znf | the prices you guys pay in US are insane |
| 20:13.17 | fewyn | i could def go a lot cheaper znf |
| 20:13.21 | fewyn | but then they have shit coverage |
| 20:13.40 | znf | yeah, I guess it doesn't help that your country is huge |
| 20:13.43 | fewyn | like i could pay half what i have now but not get coverage over half of the places i go |
| 20:13.49 | foxlit | it doesn't really matter how big your country is |
| 20:13.56 | foxlit | unless you're actually living in a desert. |
| 20:14.27 | znf | I see that complain a lot, though |
| 20:14.30 | fewyn | i don't have to worry about when i'm driving out of town dropping out of coverage |
| 20:14.32 | znf | not getting service in populated areas |
| 20:14.35 | fewyn | i have had in the past |
| 20:14.43 | fewyn | which is why i'm on AT&T now |
| 20:15.57 | Torhal | AmiYuy: I was going to answer you, but you'd gone. |
| 20:16.12 | Torhal | AmiYuy: What's the problem? |
| 20:16.18 | foxlit | znf: also worth asking: what's that in local bigmacs? |
| 20:16.49 | AmiYuy | Torhal: Ticket update HTML emails with multiple different tickets referenced all only link to the first ticket. Might only be "New Comment" ones, but I'm not sure. |
| 20:17.11 | Torhal | AmiYuy: Which site? |
| 20:17.33 | AmiYuy | wow.curseforge.com |
| 20:17.53 | znf | foxlit, good question |
| 20:17.54 | Torhal | Oh, nothing to be done then. Site is EOL while they work on the new code. |
| 20:18.27 | Semlar | Simca_: do you know where artifact passive "bonus" effects are stored, or if they're just scattered around |
| 20:18.30 | mckenziemc | offers AmiYuy a pitchfork and a map to Torhal's house. |
| 20:18.30 | znf | foxlit, 2 bigmacs |
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| 20:18.45 | znf | foxlit, more like, 1 and 2/3 actually |
| 20:18.57 | Torhal | offers mckenziemc a long walk off of a short pier. |
| 20:18.58 | AmiYuy | Yeah, I wasn't sure if that was going to carry over or not. :) |
| 20:19.11 | Torhal | COmpletely different codebase, so no. |
| 20:19.44 | Torhal | Anywho, nap. |
| 20:19.54 | AmiYuy | Sleep well :) |
| 20:21.07 | foxlit | znf: with coke and fries? :) |
| 20:21.19 | znf | foxlit, yes |
| 20:21.38 | znf | otherwise, it's 3 bigmacs |
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| 20:23.43 | znf | I don't really frequent McD that much, so I just got the prices off the internet |
| 20:25.01 | foxlit | so roughly the same as denmark, and cheaper than the UK. |
| 20:36.15 | znf | ok, got actual data |
| 20:36.29 | znf | 10 RON for a Big Mac right now, and 17 for + fries/coke |
| 20:36.40 | znf | yes, I bugged my facebook friends for that information |
| 20:37.56 | zenzelezz | RON? |
| 20:37.58 | Gnarfoz | I'd take a Big Mac for 2.25€ |
| 20:38.00 | znf | Romanian New Lei |
| 20:38.19 | znf | (we cut some zeroes from our currency about 10 years ago) |
| 20:38.43 | znf | Actually 11 years ago. |
| 20:38.43 | zenzelezz | I sometimes think the Italians switched from lire to euro just for that |
| 20:38.52 | zenzelezz | they had like, what, 20k lire for a post stamp |
| 20:38.55 | znf | Why the fuck are we calling it "new" to these days |
| 20:39.13 | Gnarfoz | I think I'd only get half a Big Mac for 2.25€ here. :C |
| 20:39.56 | Gnarfoz | but I haven't been to mcd for too long |
| 20:39.58 | zenzelezz | all I know is I pay ~1€ for a plain cheese at McD |
| 20:40.00 | mckenziemc | probably better for you ;) |
| 20:40.06 | Gnarfoz | just cheese? :D |
| 20:40.32 | zenzelezz | burger and cheese, none of that green crap |
| 20:41.00 | mckenziemc | closer to white |
| 20:41.21 | znf | Oh! There's a Popcorn Time version for TVs |
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| 20:45.23 | znf | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NB2Uysjw/20160917_234350_HDR.jpg |
| 20:45.28 | znf | what are these, subtitles for ants? |
| 20:46.37 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure what you're asking. You feel it's too small? |
| 20:46.57 | znf | yes |
| 20:47.04 | znf | that's a 32" tv |
| 20:47.05 | Gnarfoz | a bit |
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| 20:47.10 | znf | that I view from ~3 meters |
| 20:47.12 | zenzelezz | without a longer sentence it's difficult to say how large that really is |
| 20:47.31 | Gnarfoz | I view my 48" from ~2 meters :D |
| 20:47.38 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 20:47.49 | zenzelezz | I view 50" from... ~4 I think |
| 20:48.12 | zenzelezz | though that's not for any particular reason besides "my couch touches the wall and the TV touches the opposite wall" |
| 20:48.19 | Gnarfoz | same |
| 20:48.57 | Gnarfoz | (well, the TV doesn't touch the wall, it's maybe 30 cm from it? whatever. :D |
| 20:48.59 | znf | my TV has been off for the past 3 months |
| 20:49.02 | znf | until I got this tv-box |
| 20:49.32 | zenzelezz | Gnarfoz: same, but I don't know the correct word for the thing it's standing on |
| 20:49.34 | zenzelezz | in English |
| 20:49.34 | Gnarfoz | mine has gotten a lot more use since I started using Plex |
| 20:49.58 | Gnarfoz | also, what show is that, znf? |
| 20:50.14 | Gnarfoz | and is that boss-lady from SGA? hmmm |
| 20:50.25 | zenzelezz | SGA? |
| 20:50.31 | Gnarfoz | Stargate Atlantis |
| 20:50.47 | znf | Gnarfoz, Dark Matter |
| 20:50.54 | Gnarfoz | ah, then it is. ^^ |
| 20:50.54 | zenzelezz | I see |
| 20:51.09 | Gnarfoz | I haven't watched this week's episode, yet |
| 20:51.13 | znf | I can't stand Plex, I simply dislike that way of streaming |
| 20:51.28 | Gnarfoz | that's a weird reason, but ok ^^ |
| 20:51.46 | Gnarfoz | (which way is that, anyway? it has 4 playback modes last I checked) |
| 20:52.15 | znf | having my data on another box! |
| 20:52.25 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 20:52.29 | znf | plex! |
| 20:52.35 | zenzelezz | I don't have any real objection to Plex or Kodi, but I don't organize my porn like TV shows, so it's just simpler to use plain old Windows Explorer |
| 20:52.37 | znf | How are you using it? |
| 20:52.47 | Gnarfoz | I use the Plex app on my TV |
| 20:53.35 | Gnarfoz | (and PMS runs on my PC) |
| 20:54.20 | znf | what TV is that? |
| 20:54.24 | znf | I tried it on a Samsung |
| 20:54.32 | znf | and after 5 minutes I felt like throwing the remote against the tv-screen |
| 20:54.46 | Gnarfoz | Samsung UE48JU6470 |
| 20:55.08 | zenzelezz | by "on the TV", do you mean literally running on the TV, or running through a computer connected to the TV? |
| 20:55.14 | Gnarfoz | the former |
| 20:55.43 | zenzelezz | I remember trying Netflix and Youtube on my first "smart" TV. There was pain, and nearly tears |
| 20:55.46 | Gnarfoz | the latter is how Kodi/XMBC is usually used |
| 20:55.54 | zenzelezz | my Intel NUC has been a blessing for anything serious |
| 20:56.24 | Gnarfoz | mine is a 2015 model, it seems to have enough oomph for it to work without going mad |
| 20:57.10 | Gnarfoz | quad-core TVs... what has the world come to? :D |
| 20:57.59 | zenzelezz | well... these days you almost expect your wristwatch to be dual core and interfaced with Facebook |
| 20:58.18 | Gnarfoz | thankfully, Facebook is not as big a deal here |
| 20:58.36 | Gnarfoz | or maybe it is, but I don't use it ^^ |
| 20:59.04 | znf | anyway, I tried plex on a ~2014 model, I think |
| 20:59.04 | zenzelezz | I don't know if it's a big deal here or not (probably is), but it's like Apache was back when people started to root things |
| 20:59.06 | znf | expensive as shit |
| 20:59.09 | znf | curved display and all that bling |
| 20:59.09 | zenzelezz | if it couldn'T run Apache, it was shit |
| 21:00.12 | Gnarfoz | well, one issue is... |
| 21:00.17 | Gnarfoz | Plex doesn't have a Samsung app |
| 21:00.32 | Gnarfoz | the Samsung app is made by a single guy from the plex forums |
| 21:00.40 | znf | could be, dunno how I installed it then |
| 21:00.42 | znf | it was slow as fuck |
| 21:00.52 | Gnarfoz | he published it in the respective app stores |
| 21:00.59 | znf | and I tried a 3D movie |
| 21:01.04 | znf | half the time it detected it was 3d |
| 21:01.06 | znf | the other half, nope |
| 21:01.10 | znf | randomly |
| 21:01.11 | Gnarfoz | which is a terrible state of affairs, not having an app for the biggest manufacturer :D |
| 21:01.12 | znf | on the same movie |
| 21:01.13 | Gnarfoz | an official one |
| 21:01.59 | Gnarfoz | (it is very well done for a one-man job) |
| 21:02.12 | znf | at least Android on TVs is getting traction |
| 21:03.31 | Gnarfoz | not with Samsung, though, heh |
| 21:03.33 | znf | and so far apps seem to be running well, though Kodi has a habbit of crashing at the end of the TV episode |
| 21:03.44 | znf | but that's probably because of my torrent plugin (quasar) |
| 21:04.07 | znf | as in, I finish watching the episode, and when I want to start the next one, it crashes |
| 21:04.19 | znf | but that's also on a cheap chinese tv-box |
| 21:05.06 | znf | hmmm |
| 21:05.19 | znf | the tv version of the android app for popcorn time doesn't have Trakt integration :( |
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| 21:06.58 | Gnarfoz | I have no idea what that is :O |
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| 21:07.22 | Gnarfoz | also I kind of wish I had a "TV box" htpc, but then... my PC is already hooked up to the TV directly :p |
| 21:08.05 | znf | mine used to be |
| 21:08.20 | znf | but I lend the long-ass hdmi cable to someone... in march... |
| 21:08.23 | znf | and they never gave it back |
| 21:08.36 | znf | also, how do you track your tv series? |
| 21:08.38 | znf | I use trakt.tv |
| 21:08.44 | znf | with auto-scrobbling |
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| 21:18.28 | foxlit | ios10 music app is like 1 step forward, 17 steps back. |
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| 21:22.46 | foxlit | Someone should make the summon staticpopup not cancel the summon if dismissed, but rather minimize it somewhere. |
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| 21:31.58 | Gnarfoz | https://haste.smb.wtf/jocebesosohiyamapigixeqakaseza.lua I wonder what this is from :O |
| 21:37.00 | Gnarfoz | znf: so like last.fm but for TV? mh. |
| 21:37.08 | Gnarfoz | I don't really need anything to "track" my TV shows |
| 21:37.09 | znf | yeah |
| 21:37.39 | Gnarfoz | I use a combination of my head and Plex for watched/unwatched tracking, that's about it |
| 21:37.49 | Thunder_Child | I use an app that syncs with trakt.tv. I'm happy with it. |
| 21:38.24 | zenzelezz | what app would that be? |
| 21:38.38 | znf | there's multiple on phones |
| 21:38.43 | fewyn | i use XBM... Kodi |
| 21:38.44 | znf | I have a plugin in Kodi that does it |
| 21:38.56 | Thunder_Child | SeriesGuide on andriod. |
| 21:39.04 | zenzelezz | cheers |
| 21:39.04 | Gnarfoz | phone?! why would my phone know what TV I watch |
| 21:39.24 | fewyn | it watches you Gnarfoz |
| 21:39.27 | fewyn | ALL THE TIME |
| 21:39.41 | Gnarfoz | it does that without installing another app for it, though |
| 21:39.50 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:40.13 | znf | I have no idea why would someone do that manually |
| 21:40.28 | znf | but media players can auto-scrobble |
| 21:40.46 | znf | plex probably has that, too |
| 21:40.55 | znf | https://github.com/trakt/Plex-Trakt-Scrobbler |
| 21:42.57 | fewyn | thanks znf |
| 21:43.02 | fewyn | i was looking for something like that |
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| 21:49.09 | Gnarfoz | I guess I don't watch enough shows to care for this at all :P |
| 21:49.31 | znf | also does movies |
| 21:49.52 | Gnarfoz | same thing. |
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| 21:50.41 | Gnarfoz | I like it for music because I get stats, but I'm not sure why I would want to know how often I have re-watched a movie or show, or something :D |
| 21:51.47 | LexSfX | Gnarfoz: agreed |
| 21:51.50 | znf | it shows you how much time you wasted of your life |
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| 21:52.06 | Gnarfoz | since I enjoy watching stuff, none of that time was wasted |
| 21:52.13 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/CvShcQj.png |
| 21:52.19 | zenzelezz | "LF VEGAN FRIENDLY GUILD". I like Saturday-night trade chat |
| 21:52.49 | LexSfX | so like every night |
| 21:52.53 | Gnarfoz | I guess that precludes leather wearing classes? |
| 21:53.06 | zenzelezz | wouldn't know, I don't play this late on week days |
| 21:53.13 | zenzelezz | would crash with watching Air Crash Investigations |
| 21:53.57 | znf | I'm going to be looking for a Bacon friendly guild |
| 21:54.06 | znf | which is probably offensive on our server, as there's many muslims |
| 21:54.17 | Gnarfoz | I'm sure they like bacon, too |
| 21:54.37 | znf | wtf |
| 21:54.45 | znf | there's no Thornstalk Barbs on the AH :-| |
| 21:55.18 | Gnarfoz | why is the Dalaran Hearthstone such a bad copy of the real thing? |
| 21:55.50 | znf | what do you mean copy? |
| 21:55.52 | Gnarfoz | doesn't work in combat, doesn't sort with the other hearthstones in the bags... |
| 21:56.00 | znf | dunno |
| 21:56.02 | Simca_ | Semlar: you mean the hidden passives? |
| 21:56.04 | znf | but it's a teleport |
| 21:56.07 | Gnarfoz | copy. someone copied the garrison hearthstone from 6.0 (with its issues) and renamed it :P |
| 21:56.49 | znf | pft, it's a different icon |
| 21:56.58 | Simca_ | lol |
| 21:57.07 | Gnarfoz | I'm convinced that's what happened, at least ;) probably didn't copy the real one because that one can have different destinations |
| 21:58.14 | Simca_ | given the timeline of things it is more likely they just created a new item, given how simple the hearthstone is in this case (literally a kirin tor ring) |
| 21:58.30 | znf | can mages port in combat? |
| 21:58.36 | Simca_ | it probably would have been smarter to copy the garrison hearthstone |
| 21:58.51 | Gnarfoz | which had the same issues until they fixed it in 6.1 or .2 |
| 21:58.51 | znf | whatever, I'm happy that we have a 2nd one, tbh |
| 21:59.54 | Gnarfoz | shame it went unfixed through beta and even after Zorbrix (good bye) wanted to take care of it before release :\ |
| 22:00.05 | foxlit | seems like they buffed cooking food |
| 22:00.08 | LexSfX | Gnarfoz: what are the 6.0 garrison hearthstone issues? |
| 22:00.22 | LexSfX | oh, above, nvm |
| 22:00.25 | Gnarfoz | :) |
| 22:00.27 | foxlit | now seems to restore like 2x as much stuff |
| 22:00.32 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: yep |
| 22:00.37 | Simca_ | thank god |
| 22:00.44 | Simca_ | it was pathetic before |
| 22:00.52 | Gnarfoz | more importantly, they fixed Life finds a way to complete WAY faster |
| 22:01.05 | Gnarfoz | don't have to eat a million demons now |
| 22:01.15 | Simca_ | mage food was 2x better than actual food at restoring mana before |
| 22:02.22 | znf | Gnarfoz, oh, so it wasn't my impression |
| 22:03.42 | Simca_ | yeah that was nice |
| 22:03.49 | Gnarfoz | takes barely half a minute now |
| 22:03.57 | Simca_ | each demon is like 1% instead of 0.1% |
| 22:04.13 | Gnarfoz | felt like even more |
| 22:04.38 | Simca_ | commanders are like 10-20% now, up from 5% |
| 22:04.40 | Simca_ | too |
| 22:04.43 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 22:05.37 | Simca_ | it was really tedious before, if you wanted to complete it efficiently you had to just run back and forth between two commander's respawns, basically |
| 22:05.56 | Gnarfoz | thankfully I do them with someone every day, so we just split up |
| 22:06.12 | foxlit | what is that quest, anyway? |
| 22:06.23 | Gnarfoz | dino-escape in Suramar |
| 22:06.40 | Simca_ | it's gated behind a questline that has no breadcrumb and is located in the middle of nowhere |
| 22:06.49 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=43583 |
| 22:06.51 | foxlit | didn't unlock it. |
| 22:07.03 | foxlit | sounds like I saved myself all of the frustration. |
| 22:07.03 | nevcairiel | if you pay attention you might find it while doing blood&wine |
| 22:07.26 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=41215 is the first part, then (with no breadcrumb) http://www.wowhead.com/quest=41216/survival-of-the-fittest |
| 22:07.51 | mfgmfg | foxlit, here http://www.wowhead.com/npc=110987/nighteyes |
| 22:08.04 | nevcairiel | do you actually need to have done the first one? |
| 22:08.08 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 22:08.10 | Simca_ | yeah |
| 22:08.18 | nevcairiel | oh well, i had it anyway |
| 22:08.28 | Simca_ | after you free nighteyes, he mentions "hey, i'm going to scout the menagerie" in say chat |
| 22:08.34 | Simca_ | that is your only clue |
| 22:08.57 | Simca_ | at the time, I had zero idea what or where the menagerie was, but I stumbled on it by chance later |
| 22:08.59 | nevcairiel | nothing wrong with a few slightly hidden things |
| 22:09.07 | mfgmfg | Simca_, yeah people kept talking about the dino quest |
| 22:09.10 | Gnarfoz | definitely |
| 22:09.15 | mfgmfg | but i never got that WQ so i decided to see what i was missing |
| 22:09.18 | Gnarfoz | if anything, more hidden stuff \o/ |
| 22:09.23 | nevcairiel | i found it by accident as well but i didnt do it at the time |
| 22:09.27 | nevcairiel | so i had it in the log for a while |
| 22:09.42 | mfgmfg | i had never visited the menagerie area before |
| 22:09.47 | mfgmfg | despite being 7k+ through revered |
| 22:10.47 | znf | dear Blizzard |
| 22:10.55 | znf | can you knock it the fuck down with the stupid knockbacks? |
| 22:11.09 | nevcairiel | stop complaining because you're bad |
| 22:11.40 | znf | there's aoe knockbacks |
| 22:13.57 | foxlit | also buffed the free apples <3 |
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| 22:25.13 | VIad | hmm. if I send a mission wit htroops, I got 98% chance atm. I don't counter "troops will die" guy |
| 22:25.23 | VIad | I will complete it with 98% chance, and troops die, right? |
| 22:25.27 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 22:25.39 | VIad | some people said they had their troops die, % drop, then fail mission |
| 22:25.47 | VIad | otherwise I am willing to have trools die on this one :p |
| 22:25.49 | nevcairiel | that sounds silly |
| 22:25.59 | VIad | people say the % math is weird |
| 22:26.04 | VIad | I can try and confirm :p |
| 22:28.50 | VIad | hope I can upgrade my class hall with more personalized touch. like bank :p |
| 22:29.01 | nevcairiel | no, never |
| 22:29.05 | VIad | since I am the supreme dictator leader |
| 22:29.19 | VIad | I expect my private quarter |
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| 22:29.47 | Stanzilla | and another one http://www.twitter.com/Waughtang/status/776953003903373312 |
| 22:30.18 | VIad | yay |
| 22:30.24 | VIad | 5 people quit within a month? |
| 22:30.39 | Gnarfoz | oh noes, in a company of thousands, people quit? |
| 22:30.47 | VIad | but they make a big deal out of it |
| 22:30.53 | VIad | posting on their twitter walls goodbyes |
| 22:31.03 | VIad | instead of keeping it a private mater :p they feel like having to announce it to everyone |
| 22:31.11 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 22:31.22 | Gnarfoz | that's basically what Twitter is? |
| 22:31.22 | VIad | I mean they want PR :p |
| 22:31.28 | Gnarfoz | "they"? |
| 22:31.29 | Gnarfoz | PR? |
| 22:31.34 | zenzelezz | so for a moment, I thought this herb was a gnome mage |
| 22:31.50 | Gnarfoz | these are random people's Twitter accounts |
| 22:31.56 | nevcairiel | people that publicly posted about their work for a company etc should probably also post that they are leaving said company =p |
| 22:32.02 | VIad | those that quit and have to post blog posts on their twitter |
| 22:32.11 | Gnarfoz | I don't see a blog post. |
| 22:32.20 | VIad | probably. never heard of james waugh before sadly :p |
| 22:32.31 | VIad | was a blog post link on mmochamp earlier today |
| 22:32.34 | VIad | for some other guy |
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| 22:32.45 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 22:32.52 | VIad | you said you didnt see a blog post |
| 22:32.58 | Gnarfoz | for the one Stanzilla just linked |
| 22:33.18 | VIad | I mean obviously they feel a need to announce it, and that makes a impression that people are bailing :p |
| 22:33.24 | Gnarfoz | ??? |
| 22:33.45 | Gnarfoz | maximum tin-foil hattery |
| 22:33.53 | Gnarfoz | "feel a need to announce" |
| 22:34.01 | nevcairiel | again, if you have a blog in which you have posted about topics relating to your work, its not too far fetched that said people would also post that they are leaving =p |
| 22:34.02 | LexSfX | wtf are "exigents" and why do i need/have them? |
| 22:34.04 | VIad | lead designer this left earlier, lead designer that left last week, and such |
| 22:34.07 | Gnarfoz | it's their private Twitter account, that's what it's for |
| 22:34.20 | Gnarfoz | everyone and their mom is a "lead designer" at Blizzard |
| 22:34.23 | VIad | if it was just some artist guy then whatever |
| 22:34.25 | VIad | :p |
| 22:34.33 | VIad | I guess its an american thing to use titles |
| 22:34.40 | Tentacle1 | LexSfX: you need gents in your exi..? |
| 22:34.42 | VIad | "executive major lead designer producer king president" |
| 22:34.46 | Tentacle1 | Sounds rectal. |
| 22:35.03 | Gnarfoz | LexSfX: "needs" |
| 22:36.04 | Gnarfoz | you're probably thinking of this weird project? https://github.com/Benio101/Aye :P |
| 22:36.23 | Gnarfoz | I had to look it up when I came across that, recently |
| 22:37.10 | LexSfX | yes, Gnarfoz |
| 22:37.16 | LexSfX | its description is so weird |
| 22:37.20 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 22:37.25 | LexSfX | very confusing |
| 22:37.34 | LexSfX | idk what it actually intends to provide |
| 22:38.13 | Gnarfoz | all your exigents, obviously |
| 22:38.41 | LexSfX | lol |
| 22:39.07 | VIad | wait why is my name on that list+ |
| 22:39.13 | VIad | I dont even know what I did |
| 22:39.28 | Gnarfoz | the author was in here for a couple of days |
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| 22:41.15 | fewyn | there's no groups for this quest i need to doooo |
| 22:41.47 | LexSfX | region, faction? |
| 22:41.58 | Gnarfoz | solo it, like a boss |
| 22:42.08 | fewyn | it's a group quest Gnarfoz |
| 22:42.12 | fewyn | stupid ruven |
| 22:42.13 | zenzelezz | so for a moment I thought this herb was a gnome mage |
| 22:42.19 | LexSfX | if you are US alliance, i will help you! |
| 22:42.27 | nevcairiel | fewyn: those are just suggestions, not requirements |
| 22:42.31 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure "soloing something" applies to anything BUT group content, fewyn :p |
| 22:42.34 | nevcairiel | i solo all the things |
| 22:42.51 | fewyn | he does only have 4m hp |
| 22:42.56 | fewyn | if i die it's all your fault |
| 22:43.03 | Gnarfoz | I can live with that |
| 22:43.10 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: not the other way around? ^^ |
| 22:43.32 | fewyn | huh |
| 22:43.34 | LexSfX | pretty sure most classes can solo most NPCs with 4m hp |
| 22:43.36 | fewyn | he died fairly easily |
| 22:43.37 | Gnarfoz | aren't you a durid, fewyn? bear is for fite! |
| 22:43.43 | fewyn | no |
| 22:43.45 | fewyn | i'm a rogue |
| 22:43.50 | LexSfX | even easier |
| 22:43.52 | nevcairiel | i was going to guess hunter |
| 22:43.53 | LexSfX | outlaw with feint |
| 22:43.58 | LexSfX | invincible |
| 22:44.06 | fewyn | i wonder why it said it was a group quest |
| 22:44.13 | LexSfX | noob catering |
| 22:44.15 | LexSfX | blizzard loves it |
| 22:44.22 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure what spec/talent choice that rogue in Brul'gar arena recently had, but he was super annoying |
| 22:44.29 | Gnarfoz | basically oneshotting everyone :D |
| 22:44.32 | nevcairiel | some of those quests are also marked 113 for reasons |
| 22:44.50 | nevcairiel | so they turn orange =p |
| 22:44.52 | Gnarfoz | (ok, having brulzerking buff on both sides also makes things about... 600% worse) |
| 22:45.27 | LexSfX | i heard that in my head as "brozerking" |
| 22:45.46 | Gnarfoz | which is exactly the designer's intent? :P |
| 22:45.56 | LexSfX | stupid sideways cap and roid rage |
| 22:45.58 | Gnarfoz | do you even lift, brul? |
| 22:46.19 | VIad | some lucky people have 3/4 legendaries already |
| 22:46.20 | Gnarfoz | I'm sure you've helped a brul out in Highmountain? ;) |
| 22:46.20 | VIad | ,_, |
| 22:46.35 | nevcairiel | drog me, brul! |
| 22:46.46 | LexSfX | VIad: there's a theory that the pity timer only activates after you find 1 legendary |
| 22:46.48 | VIad | unlike diablo, no "anti-bad luck" mechanics I guess? |
| 22:46.59 | Gnarfoz | there's bad luck protection, yes |
| 22:47.02 | VIad | blizz hotfixed a drop % bug with legendaries, dropping too often |
| 22:47.04 | Gnarfoz | but who knows how that works or when. |
| 22:47.07 | nevcairiel | it does have those, but it still doesnt mean you should have one after 3 weeks, guaranteed |
| 22:47.22 | nevcairiel | but they dont tell you specifics on loot distribution related maters anyway |
| 22:47.29 | Gnarfoz | the real issue with what you described was the thing they fixed... "Identified and fixed an issue that could cause Legion legendary items to drop more frequently than intended if a player had already received their first legendary." :D |
| 22:47.35 | VIad | some people got to use the bug to get more legendaries after their first |
| 22:47.35 | LexSfX | all we can do is gather statistics with wowdb profiler etc. |
| 22:48.06 | VIad | done 450 WQ and a lot of normal/heroic/mythics :d |
| 22:48.11 | VIad | at least I am trying |
| 22:48.12 | LexSfX | Gnarfoz: oh, they fixed that. good |
| 22:48.41 | nevcairiel | and half of mmo-c salty because they didnt get multiple ones, and people didnt get theirs taken away =p |
| 22:49.05 | VIad | those that got 3/4 are lucky since they can equip the one that is best :p |
| 22:49.13 | VIad | worst case I get a shitty passive ring one for pvp or something |
| 22:49.13 | Gnarfoz | I wish wowdb had a dark theme >_> |
| 22:49.29 | LexSfX | i wish wowhead used wowdb profiler :P |
| 22:49.59 | Gnarfoz | we've had 2 legendaries in the guild so far, both of them of questionable use. :D |
| 22:50.29 | znf | it's sad if you get the universal ones |
| 22:50.36 | nevcairiel | we had 3, two questionable, the third i dont know if its good at all |
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| 22:50.55 | znf | rings/necks are "meh" |
| 22:51.02 | VIad | like the pvp ring :p |
| 22:51.05 | VIad | so bad |
| 22:51.46 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowdb.com/items/132444-prydaz-xavarics-magnum-opus and http://www.wowdb.com/items/133977-belovirs-final-stand ^^ |
| 22:51.50 | znf | our tank god that |
| 22:51.51 | znf | the neck |
| 22:52.24 | znf | very useful to have a shield when you're not taking damage, as a tank... |
| 22:52.30 | znf | at least it's shitloads of stamina |
| 22:52.40 | VIad | I guess it's okay |
| 22:52.46 | VIad | but the class once are usually more OP |
| 22:52.55 | VIad | like for me, 15% leech with my "shield block" enabled |
| 22:52.56 | Gnarfoz | znf: that one is on one of our tanks, too, heh |
| 22:53.09 | nevcairiel | znf: its really mostly useful for M+ where you have a small buffer shield when pulling a new pack |
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| 22:53.31 | nebula | non-script handler functions can throw script ran too long errors? |
| 22:53.33 | nevcairiel | in raids, not so much |
| 22:53.40 | nevcairiel | nebula: everything can |
| 22:53.54 | VIad | btw chrome got an update, private mode uses a dark theme. can I enable it in the default browser? :/ |
| 22:54.41 | znf | really small |
| 22:54.53 | znf | in M+ you mostly chain pull :-/ |
| 22:55.09 | nevcairiel | on that note, I find it somewhat annoying that M+ has so much focus on trash fights, instead fo the bosses .. but its always been the same in difficult 5man content, from CM to several undergearing normal mythic or whatever |
| 22:55.23 | nevcairiel | znf: 5 seconds isnt that long |
| 22:55.34 | znf | tought it was 15 |
| 22:55.44 | VIad | nevcairiel: 4 DH tanks + 1 moonkin or fire mage |
| 22:55.49 | nebula | thats avoiding two swings |
| 22:56.13 | nevcairiel | VIad: tank damage is getting nerfed, and DH healing probably as well |
| 22:56.18 | VIad | :/ |
| 22:56.23 | nebula | nevcairiel: howso? |
| 22:56.26 | VIad | I already feel weak compared to a protadin |
| 22:56.45 | VIad | I dont have a huge HP pool like druids, I depend on my healing for retroactive tanking |
| 22:57.14 | znf | In M+ I still feel like I won't get picked because I have no aoe :-/ |
| 22:57.36 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt take you if you had AoE, but i know you, so thats your problem |
| 22:57.46 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 22:58.13 | nevcairiel | nebula: howso what? blizzard already announced broad tank damage nerfs |
| 22:58.20 | VIad | also I didn't like blizz retroactive "lets make upgrade items for champions double the effect" |
| 22:58.27 | nebula | i didn't see that, obviously |
| 22:58.36 | VIad | I already had spent so many upgrades on my champions, suddenly it's like I wasted half of the upgrades ;/ |
| 22:58.42 | VIad | wish I had gotten a refund of some kind |
| 22:59.01 | VIad | think the blue one got an upgrade |
| 22:59.08 | VIad | I might be wrong ofc |
| 22:59.16 | nevcairiel | still seems to be +5, +10, +15, for green blue epic |
| 22:59.23 | znf | I mean I can hold my own DPS on bosses |
| 22:59.30 | znf | but for the trash packs I'm mostly useless |
| 22:59.40 | znf | especially if there's a WW monk or DH in the group now |
| 22:59.53 | VIad | what are you? |
| 22:59.56 | nevcairiel | both of those get their AoE nerfed as well |
| 22:59.59 | nebula | i did see they were nerfing ww and dh aoe specificly |
| 23:00.27 | znf | I know they are doing it |
| 23:00.28 | nevcairiel | those nerfs are supposed to go live on next maintenance |
| 23:00.30 | VIad | how can they balance the game, seeing as we are using artifacts to enhance ourselves, and people go different paths? |
| 23:00.40 | znf | let's see how much |
| 23:00.50 | nevcairiel | its like saying how can they balance when people wear different gear =p |
| 23:00.51 | VIad | like if you go for the passive that buffs some aoe ability, and they nerf it hard, it feels like a ripoff and waste :/ |
| 23:01.04 | nebula | it's still an increase. |
| 23:01.07 | VIad | wtb a free refund of AP if they decide to nerf stuff like that |
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| 23:01.13 | nevcairiel | they will never do that |
| 23:01.23 | nevcairiel | was already confirmed, no refunds =p |
| 23:01.25 | VIad | if you went one path and its not useless |
| 23:01.43 | nevcairiel | its never "useless", even if it gets slightly adjusted, still benefits you |
| 23:01.43 | VIad | if you went one path, and now it's useless because they nerf the passive |
| 23:02.25 | VIad | slightly adjusted is like 5% difference |
| 23:02.29 | VIad | if they cut the aoe in half :p |
| 23:02.37 | nevcairiel | its sitll not useless |
| 23:02.47 | nevcairiel | useless would be zero |
| 23:02.49 | VIad | no but you might have been better off going another path on your artifact |
| 23:03.02 | nebula | so buy a respec and stop being a bitch |
| 23:03.06 | VIad | and now you are stuck with the suboptimal path you chose because blizz didnt refund you |
| 23:03.12 | znf | have you seen the price on the respec? |
| 23:03.13 | znf | fuck that |
| 23:03.25 | nevcairiel | then stop whining and just finish all the traits |
| 23:03.34 | VIad | that wont happen until end of expansion |
| 23:03.37 | nebula | you go one trait behind, but atleast you're not "down a worthless path" |
| 23:03.38 | nevcairiel | nonsense |
| 23:03.43 | VIad | isnt the idea to keep working on the artifact until end of expansion? :p |
| 23:03.44 | nevcairiel | the base 34 are done in like 2 months |
| 23:03.56 | nevcairiel | after that tehre is no choice anymore anyway |
| 23:04.08 | VIad | at that point blizz can nerf and balance as they please imo |
| 23:04.12 | VIad | when people are maxed out |
| 23:04.26 | nevcairiel | they'll balance when its good for the game, not w hen you want |
| 23:04.41 | VIad | yeah. poor bosses if players do more dmg :p |
| 23:04.45 | VIad | so unfair |
| 23:05.21 | nevcairiel | you clearly have no clue what balance is supposed to do, its not for the bosses, but I should not be surprised, should I |
| 23:05.46 | VIad | pvp templates makes the balancing thing purely to make players feel more even and shit |
| 23:06.05 | VIad | "X does more aoe than me" complaints leads to some nerfs on that class but only for pve ofc, since pvp uses templates now |
| 23:06.28 | VIad | or stuff like stacking classes |
| 23:06.38 | znf | PvP templates enrage me |
| 23:06.41 | VIad | I still expect some crazy M+ setups |
| 23:06.51 | nebula | pvp templates are wonderful, imo |
| 23:06.54 | VIad | then hardcore nerfbats |
| 23:08.27 | znf | I dislike pvp templates because it makes gearing choiceless |
| 23:08.36 | znf | my class feels shitty without ~30% haste |
| 23:08.52 | VIad | world pvp is still unbalanced |
| 23:08.54 | VIad | so enjoy that :d |
| 23:09.03 | VIad | pvp templates are good for the skill vs skill players |
| 23:09.04 | znf | yet the pvp template, at 850, grants around ~12% haste |
| 23:09.15 | VIad | world pvp dont use templates ;) |
| 23:09.17 | znf | not even sure why there's 5 kind of pvp rings |
| 23:09.50 | znf | and as a caster against melee, the only thing I can do is hope for instant-cast procs :D |
| 23:10.41 | znf | which reminds me, I feel like I've done the worst thing ever by going to prestige 1 and losing access to all my pvp talents |
| 23:13.02 | VIad | :d |
| 23:17.56 | fewyn | hrm am i missing a leyline or something? http://i.imgur.com/ESRREta.jpg |
| 23:18.11 | VIad | you need to pickup that quest in front of you |
| 23:18.12 | nevcairiel | the central pillar is always off |
| 23:18.15 | foxlit | there's an achievement tracking them. |
| 23:18.32 | fewyn | ok |
| 23:18.38 | fewyn | i just noticed there was one pillar with no light |
| 23:18.45 | fewyn | i thought i had grabbed them all |
| 23:18.59 | nevcairiel | its also bigger then the others, if you didnt notice =p |
| 23:19.15 | fewyn | that doesn't mean anything! |
| 23:19.29 | foxlit | I think during the introduction they were like "look, these things form a map!" |
| 23:19.33 | foxlit | and I still don't see that. |
| 23:19.38 | fewyn | me either |
| 23:32.55 | znf | I'm getting all these weird BG potions |
| 23:33.12 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/6v8fqBp.png |
| 23:33.57 | Semlar | Simca_: yeah, is there some way to tell what the passive bonus effect for a particular weapon is, like transforming into a bird when you die as survival |
| 23:35.34 | znf | Do you guys still do the WQs that don't grant Nightfallen rep or AP/Loot? |
| 23:40.22 | VIad | yeah |
| 23:40.32 | VIad | gotta get exalted with everything :p |
| 23:40.41 | zenzelezz | ^ |
| 23:40.45 | VIad | wowhead clue "This fine feathered friend was a big help and continues to be in your world quests! An homage to Harry Potter fans." |
| 23:40.53 | VIad | does he mean the bird in stormheim? |
| 23:40.58 | VIad | the bird that dislikes you |
| 23:41.05 | VIad | I have honestly no idea what he is talking about :po |
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| 23:43.32 | znf | why does canImogit update the apperance db every time I log on |
| 23:43.37 | znf | and why do I care about the message? |
| 23:47.16 | fewyn | because it's a silly goose |
