| 00:00.39 | Cairenn | :( |
| 00:07.34 | fewyn | HOLY FUCK |
| 00:07.36 | fewyn | what |
| 00:08.31 | Cairenn | Well, you guys saw this already too, right? http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/12/technology/a-new-phase-for-world-of-warcrafts-lead-designer-his-own-start-up.html?_r=0 |
| 00:08.42 | fewyn | yeah |
| 00:11.25 | Stanzilla | yeah he got some cool people |
| 00:14.32 | g0urra | so Thrall's going to die |
| 00:15.12 | fewyn | we can only hope |
| 00:15.53 | ls- | Thrall's already retired, sorta... |
| 00:16.46 | ls- | he's unworthy of wielding doomhammer and shit. |
| 00:19.29 | g0urra | "I had just turned twenty years old when I started working at Blizzard." what a fraud |
| 00:19.45 | g0urra | "It had originally been named Silicon & Synapse and was briefly operating under the name Chaos Studios. Metzen was only 19 years old." |
| 00:19.48 | g0urra | http://www.polygon.com/features/2014/10/3/6901193/blizzard-entertainment-three-lives |
| 00:20.39 | znf | He's retiring? |
| 00:20.40 | znf | Woah |
| 00:20.58 | Semlar | rip wow |
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| 00:27.16 | bshelden | Meh, doubt it. I look forward to seeing a new toolkit used for storytelling. |
| 00:27.23 | bshelden | The tropes were getting more than a touch stale. |
| 00:27.38 | bshelden | I wish him well, and I also lookforward to new story. |
| 00:28.20 | Stanzilla | more like rip Thrall |
| 00:28.31 | Stanzilla | he has to die now, so he wont have to come in to do voice lines all the time :D |
| 00:30.43 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/OD3PBlV.png |
| 00:30.51 | znf | is that prestige? |
| 00:33.11 | g0urra | yes |
| 00:33.20 | g0urra | enjoy your CoD badges |
| 00:33.27 | Freddie | maybe they can move on from CORRUPTION now |
| 00:33.28 | bshelden | Nah, he retied to raise his family. Yes, that applying to both works out well. |
| 00:35.07 | znf | honor level 48 |
| 00:39.53 | znf | mkay |
| 00:39.55 | znf | if you're a caster |
| 00:39.58 | znf | don't try to do BGs |
| 00:40.00 | znf | there's no point |
| 00:40.19 | znf | you spend all the time at the graveyard |
| 00:46.35 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: "Aggressive Reconnaisance" WQ is still not showing on the map if active |
| 00:47.09 | znf | ...so non-engineers get to use their goblin glider kit in PvP, but I as an engineer don't |
| 00:47.34 | Trela | How does it stop you?(What weird condition?) |
| 00:48.21 | znf | "You can not use this in a PvP instance" |
| 00:48.29 | znf | s/this/that/ |
| 00:48.46 | relaxok | g0urra: What are you talking about? Pardo != Metzen |
| 00:49.35 | Trela | It only does that because you are an engineer even though the item is no different? O_o |
| 00:49.46 | relaxok | oh shit |
| 00:49.50 | relaxok | i didn't scroll back far enough |
| 00:50.34 | znf | Trela, technically it is |
| 00:50.36 | znf | one is a cloak enchant |
| 00:50.39 | znf | one is a consumable item |
| 00:50.46 | znf | same effect though |
| 00:50.56 | Trela | Oh, just make the item then. |
| 00:53.05 | znf | it requires WoD mats :-/ |
| 00:53.15 | Stanzilla | that a vendor sells |
| 00:53.28 | znf | who sells cloth and ore? |
| 00:53.47 | Stanzilla | the AH |
| 00:54.13 | znf | you said vendor |
| 00:54.25 | Trela | The vend other people's stuff. |
| 00:54.27 | Trela | *They |
| 00:57.49 | znf | but I'm engineer! :-| |
| 00:58.37 | TheDanW | Stanzilla: yeah, i tracked it down earlier, it's not something we can hotfix, will be resolved in 7.1 |
| 01:02.29 | Stanzilla | cool, thanks |
| 01:02.41 | znf | at least most of the time is paired with the bat quest |
| 01:02.43 | znf | :P |
| 01:02.56 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: which other WQ does it affect? |
| 01:08.50 | mckenziemc | heh, Cairenn didn't seem too thrilled about the prospect of her forums filling with doomsday prophecies |
| 01:09.19 | Cairenn | ? |
| 01:10.10 | mckenziemc | (4:59:48 PM) ls-: forum doomsayers inc! (5:00:42 PM) Cairenn: :( |
| 01:10.14 | mckenziemc | :p |
| 01:10.16 | TheDanW | Stanzilla: i believe theres some more in suramar from personal experience, but i don't have names |
| 01:10.19 | Cairenn | Oh, yeah |
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| 01:10.26 | Stanzilla | ok :) |
| 01:10.40 | TheDanW | sometimes they're just missing quest prereqs when compared to something like wowhead's tracker |
| 01:10.51 | TheDanW | the companion app should be 100% accurate |
| 01:12.17 | ls- | oh, Dan is here.. |
| 01:12.31 | TheDanW | not much longer! |
| 01:12.36 | TheDanW | 6 here |
| 01:13.03 | ls- | TheDanW: Is it possible/probable to add a secure way to add custom modules to default objective tracker? |
| 01:13.12 | ls- | that'd help a lot :D |
| 01:13.32 | TheDanW | for what purpose? just to avoid tainting the tracker? |
| 01:14.00 | ls- | yeah, and it's much better to have ONE place for all kinds of trackers |
| 01:14.41 | TheDanW | i can add it to the list of things to discuss with the team |
| 01:16.14 | ls- | noice, ty <3 |
| 01:16.30 | Stanzilla | world map taint is the worst |
| 01:18.05 | fewyn | taint all the things |
| 01:18.37 | ls- | hell yeah, taints are the best :D |
| 01:22.22 | ls- | rn we either taint a lot of stuff, or we have to create separate trackers for addon, ofc we can create some kind of framework/display for addon trackers, but even having two trackers on the screen isn't cool, they eat up too much space, and that's unnecessary |
| 01:24.24 | ls- | trackers, trackers everywhere T_T |
| 01:27.53 | Ssateneth | so does anyone remember the faeture where if you opened dungeon journal in a dnugeon/raid, it would automatically go to that dungeon/raid in the journal? |
| 01:31.24 | ls- | isn't it default behaviour? O_o |
| 01:31.31 | ls- | at least it was... |
| 01:36.15 | ls- | damn, for some reason it's nearly impossible to get hibiscus in Thailand T_T |
| 01:43.48 | znf | can you send gold x-faction, same account, same realm? |
| 01:47.08 | ls- | nope |
| 01:49.17 | ls- | I usually put something on AH at ridiculous price and ask one of my friends to buy it w/ own my gold, cuz you can't buy out your own stuff :p |
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| 02:06.25 | foxlit | as another indirect option, you can buy/sell battle pets on the AH. |
| 02:07.12 | foxlit | (as those bind to your battle.net account, you can buy and learn them on one faction, then cage and sell them on another) |
| 02:13.30 | ls- | yeah, but you lose % of money... |
| 02:13.49 | ls- | but if you don't have people you trust, that's a good option |
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| 02:47.15 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/e0ZiVAX.png |
| 02:47.25 | znf | so is this how this shit works? |
| 02:47.29 | znf | 1 vs 2? |
| 02:47.30 | znf | >_< |
| 02:48.27 | pompy | i see 4 |
| 02:50.37 | znf | pompy, you don't happen to see an arena partner, do you? |
| 02:51.18 | pompy | no! |
| 02:52.01 | pompy | http://eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/15999289876 |
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| 03:25.07 | Iriel | Woot - http://www.zachtronics.com/shenzhen-io/ |
| 03:25.15 | Iriel | (Apologies if that's old news) |
| 03:26.04 | mckenziemc | why not fritzing :< |
| 03:27.45 | Trela | Just what I wanted. Reading more data sheets! :D |
| 03:27.55 | Thunder_Child | I can't tell if that's a game or not. |
| 03:28.21 | Iriel | I DONT CARE! |
| 03:28.26 | mckenziemc | maybe that's a good thing |
| 03:28.36 | Iriel | I pre-ordered for the physical binder! |
| 03:29.40 | mckenziemc | you could've saved money ordering a binder from amazon and printing http://www.atmel.com/devices/ATMEGA328P.aspx ! |
| 03:30.32 | Trela | Dear god, do you want Iriel to spend the world GDP in printer ink printing that, mckenziemc? |
| 03:30.37 | mckenziemc | after lots of hole-punching i guess |
| 03:31.40 | Thunder_Child | Only 444 pages? |
| 03:31.47 | Iriel | Back in the early 90's I worked in the pharmaceutical research industry, the FDA stilll expected a paper copy of evidence for clinical trials (They had been experimenting with new fangled CD-ROM technology). |
| 03:31.56 | Trela | Plus supplement pages. |
| 03:32.03 | Iriel | Some of those datasets were multiple CARTONS of paper. |
| 03:32.15 | Thunder_Child | Only another 24. |
| 03:32.24 | Iriel | A decently complex drug would fill a semi-trailer with paper |
| 03:33.23 | Iriel | Hm, the artifact power cost curve's a bit steep isn't it? |
| 03:33.39 | synnove | yeaaahh |
| 03:33.48 | synnove | after #13 (or thereabouts?) |
| 03:33.59 | Iriel | when it multiplies by 6 or so, yeah |
| 03:34.03 | synnove | mine went from ~1k to just under 7k, surprised me |
| 03:34.10 | Iriel | Right, that |
| 03:34.35 | synnove | i'd just gotten a +800 artifact power item too that i thought i'd hold on to :P |
| 03:36.41 | Iriel | Here's hoping something like that starts to drop |
| 03:37.48 | synnove | yep. i think i got a +1000 off some quest too |
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| 03:56.02 | znf | Woah. |
| 03:56.19 | znf | When did they change the +bonus item to be shitloads of +AP on missions? |
| 03:56.57 | znf | ie: a mission that grants an +AP item of ~285, has a bonus chance of granting a +780 AP one (once you go over 100%) |
| 03:57.04 | znf | It used to be lower when they launched |
| 03:57.26 | kullervo | did you perhaps gain artifact knowledge |
| 03:57.36 | znf | I didn't gain that fucking much |
| 03:57.54 | znf | Used to be very very very low AP on the bonus item |
| 03:57.58 | znf | something like 25% of the main one |
| 03:58.53 | synnove | huh, thats what i remember too |
| 03:59.15 | znf | I didn't freakin screenshot it :-/ |
| 03:59.54 | znf | I wasn't even bothering going the over 100% because the reward was so low |
| 04:00.05 | synnove | i did world quests for the first time yesterday too, and one said i'd get an 815+ item, but all i got was sub-800s |
| 04:00.17 | synnove | anyone know whats up with that? :o |
| 04:01.03 | znf | based on your ilvl |
| 04:01.11 | znf | the pvp ones are based on your honor level |
| 04:01.59 | synnove | ahh |
| 04:02.23 | synnove | i'm thiis close to 800 now |
| 04:05.34 | ls- | 1x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn 'Auctionator' tried to call the protected function 'CompactPartyFrame:unusedFunc()'. |
| 04:05.44 | ls- | damn, unusedFunc, ahaha :D |
| 04:06.07 | ls- | haven't seen this one before... |
| 04:07.48 | mckenziemc | previously unused! |
| 04:11.02 | _Kee | wooo! I just found some golden rare, doing WQ. Do you know what this golden rare frame comes from? http://benio.me/pub/res/img/wow/golden.rare.png |
| 04:11.16 | ls- | it's used to block addon action now :D |
| 04:11.34 | _Kee | I wouldn't be able to inspect it, is it blizzard one, or some addon adds it. Never saw it before. |
| 04:15.44 | _Kee | nvm, it dropped a toy for me. wowhead says it's 7% drop rate ^^ |
| 04:15.58 | Torhal | _Kee: That's the new NPCScan. I released it this morning. |
| 04:16.52 | _Kee | Ah, this is why I didn''t saw it before. The frame⦠and the sound⦠it's really cool! |
| 04:17.29 | Torhal | Thankye :) |
| 04:19.57 | ls- | speaking of toasts, I need to draw bg texture for transmog toast T_T |
| 04:21.25 | synnove | what addon is that for? |
| 04:21.43 | synnove | (assuming addon, anyway, i'm new to the channel and don't really know anyone >>) |
| 04:23.28 | ls- | wut? texture |
| 04:23.40 | ls- | for ls: Toasts :p |
| 04:23.57 | synnove | aha |
| 04:24.19 | Fisker | Don't let the lovers get to you Torhal I still hate your addon <3 |
| 04:24.34 | Torhal | That's fine, Fisker. If you didn't I'd think you were sick again. |
| 04:25.18 | ls- | btw, at some point during new tmog system development, blizz considered implementing tmog toasts, there's even a texture for it :p |
| 04:25.25 | ls- | http://i.imgur.com/T4txZGs.png |
| 04:27.11 | Fisker | I'm very sick Torhal :( |
| 04:28.15 | mckenziemc | so you're why i'm starting to get sick =/ |
| 04:30.33 | mckenziemc | reality is clearly broken, Fisker |
| 04:30.53 | mckenziemc | it doesn't match my simulation code for critical damping :( |
| 04:40.03 | znf | ls-, cool |
| 04:40.10 | znf | now what to use that texture for? :D |
| 04:41.29 | ls- | dunno :p btw, here's a path to that texture: Interface\Transmogrify\TransmogToast.BLP |
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| 04:47.14 | mckenziemc | toasts Fisker for Torhal. |
| 05:02.43 | znf | I wonder what happened to wowhead's "same model as" feature |
| 05:04.04 | znf | ...this is what I get for trying to get some transmog item |
| 05:04.09 | znf | I broke the instance :( |
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| 05:12.21 | Semlar | neffi why haven't i gotten any legendaries yet |
| 05:13.34 | znf | Huh, so they have upped the PvP quest timers to 4 hours |
| 05:18.29 | znf | Am I recalling corectly that WoD rares used to drop a weapon first time you killed them? |
| 05:18.51 | synnove | i don't thiiink so? |
| 05:18.53 | synnove | i may be wrong |
| 05:23.13 | nebula | they dropped gear, yes |
| 05:25.55 | znf | great, so if I want a certain item but back then it was useless... |
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| 05:53.34 | LexSfX | i have an addon that is increasing my arena loading screens' durations over my session of play. what addon can i use to determine which addon is doing it? |
| 05:56.32 | LexSfX | my game is taking forever to load arenas, but not any other zones |
| 05:56.47 | LexSfX | very annoying when i'm looking forward to playing competitive arena |
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| 06:06.12 | znf | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/wVzNpQns/Screenshot_2016-09-13-09-05-16.png |
| 06:06.26 | znf | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Wl3LrNjI/Screenshot_2016-09-13-09-05-22.png |
| 06:06.42 | znf | I'm 99% sure they buffed it tonight |
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| 06:21.48 | Kraps | rip http://www.businessinsider.com/blizzard-senior-vp-chris-metzen-is-retiring-2016-9 |
| 06:26.18 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 06:26.27 | Fisker | I wonder who'll do the voices then Kraps |
| 06:26.47 | Fisker | >retiring at 42 though |
| 06:32.40 | NuSuey | hmmh.. couln't they hire him for the voice work? :o well.. even when retired? |
| 06:38.46 | Trela | I would welcome new voices. |
| 06:38.55 | Trela | (For new characters of course.) |
| 06:39.17 | Fisker | Sure they can NuSuey |
| 06:41.17 | NuSuey | hoped it wasn't an impulse decision and he was mentoring somebody to fill that big void.. |
| 06:44.18 | ls- | well, he's talking about his family quite a lot lately, esp kids, so his retirement isn't that surprising O_o |
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| 07:45.22 | _Kee | I wrote two single weak auras to check Pet Energy regaining rate, and⦠I see 11.11111⦠(1 is repeating, of course), not 10. Do you know anything more about this? Something has changed? Any detailed info? |
| 07:45.41 | VIad | probably haste |
| 07:45.56 | _Kee | I have 5.92% |
| 07:45.58 | VIad | it seems to increase things in general these days |
| 07:46.18 | _Kee | and never noticed my haste to have any coexistence with my pet. |
| 07:46.33 | nevcairiel | haste is supposed to increase the speed of your playstyle, which does include resource regen because otherwise it wouldnt help =p |
| 07:46.53 | _Kee | only spell power, versatility and one of my artifact weapon traits. |
| 07:47.00 | VIad | I haven't played a pet class for ages, but I am certain some stats on you change your pet stats a bit |
| 07:50.13 | VIad | unsure of the coincidence of the number mentioned, but http://wow.gamepedia.com/Haste#Patches_and_hotfixes |
| 07:50.19 | VIad | read the top hotfix :p |
| 07:50.53 | nevcairiel | that just gives you more haste per point |
| 07:51.34 | nevcairiel | but its also irrelevant since that was for 100 |
| 07:52.56 | VIad | he just mentioned his pet had 11.1~% haste and the hotfix said 11.1% haste so that was a funny coincidense |
| 07:54.30 | VIad | I guess Semlar could give us an answer, he plays hunter fulltime. |
| 07:54.56 | VIad | though he always plays MM and lone wolf so never with a pet, probably doesn't know much about pets or pet control |
| 07:55.03 | _Kee | well, ok⦠when I got naked, it's 10%. still weird, because I had 5.92% haste, not 11% |
| 07:55.24 | VIad | so your stats ever so slightly alters the pets |
| 07:55.51 | _Kee | soo⦠I still miss the exact formula for this. |
| 07:56.24 | _Kee | I want to compare if it's better to play with pet or eat it and gain a passive. |
| 07:58.38 | VIad | for a MM I suspect lone wolf is better :p |
| 07:59.08 | VIad | pure numbers wise, pets are slow to run from target to target and pathing issues |
| 08:00.36 | _Kee | I play warlock and I can't understant why so many people advise widely either to eat demon, or choose with one, but can't explain WHY (and to explain it, the basic is how much energy pet gains per second, if he uses it to make it's attack). |
| 08:00.41 | Shockah|Work | how can you play MM when questing |
| 08:00.51 | Shockah|Work | MM with Lone Wolf |
| 08:00.53 | Semlar | i do everything as MM |
| 08:01.05 | Shockah|Work | MM with a pet i could understand |
| 08:01.10 | Shockah|Work | the pet is just too op |
| 08:01.23 | Semlar | black arrow spawns a pet |
| 08:01.27 | Shockah|Work | i'm often tanking 5+ mobs with it |
| 08:01.34 | Shockah|Work | or a DANGER mob |
| 08:01.59 | nevcairiel | they really shouldve left the pet off of MM, silly complainers winning again |
| 08:02.17 | Shockah|Work | you know what i'd play |
| 08:02.20 | Shockah|Work | survival without a pet |
| 08:02.47 | Shockah|Work | not for questing obviously |
| 08:02.59 | Semlar | you can play MM with a pet |
| 08:03.06 | Semlar | i switch out of lone wolf when soloing |
| 08:03.06 | Shockah|Work | i know you can |
| 08:03.12 | Shockah|Work | ah |
| 08:03.14 | Shockah|Work | fine then |
| 08:03.27 | Shockah|Work | i thought you played Lone Wolf solo |
| 08:03.38 | Semlar | the pet is only required for soloing things that would normally take a group to kill |
| 08:04.03 | Semlar | you can easily solo with just black arrow |
| 08:07.07 | _Kee | ok, after a few more tests, it looks like the Pet regen is 10 + Ã2 Haste. That's weird. |
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| 08:12.17 | _Kee | 4.22% Haste makes the Pet regen in range of 10.83 â 10.86. |
| 08:12.50 | _Kee | So I am pretty sure now, that you was right, just Haste is 2Ã more efficient for my pet than for me. |
| 08:13.00 | _Kee | were* |
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| 09:19.18 | ls- | T_T /4 on my realm is filled w/ "RIP WoW", "dicks out for Metzen" |
| 09:19.23 | synnove | any mage friends here? >> |
| 09:19.45 | synnove | also lol, awkward :/ |
| 09:19.58 | ls- | I'm mage :p |
| 09:20.03 | synnove | <3! |
| 09:20.41 | ls- | >:o |
| 09:21.09 | synnove | mage friends best friends |
| 09:21.19 | synnove | im not really sure why, maybe it's all the class hall stuff |
| 09:21.29 | synnove | but i've been feeling more of a surge of affection/ appreciation for mages |
| 09:21.56 | synnove | in addition to being an archmage, i'd also like a spot on the council of six, pls |
| 09:21.57 | ls- | mages are fun :p |
| 09:22.00 | ls- | fire <3 |
| 09:22.03 | synnove | they are :D |
| 09:22.09 | synnove | i have to try that next |
| 09:22.16 | synnove | i've been frost for a while |
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| 09:31.46 | Freddie | hm, some stuff actually updated via the bnet api |
| 09:34.28 | nevcairiel | armory also updated a few characters again. i wish they would finally sort that out |
| 09:38.19 | Freddie | I taught my addon to save artifact info and sync that for me, seemed easier than wiating for the API to not be a dumpster fire and for all artifact info to show up (assuming it does at some point) :v |
| 09:40.36 | Freddie | I was also greatly amused that you still need to parse tooltips to get item level with bonusids applied :v |
| 09:41.55 | nevcairiel | even more so then ever now that practically every item scales |
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| 10:07.05 | Shockah|Work | Freddie, at least until 7.1 |
| 10:20.46 | VIad | Semlar: is it me or is pet taunt like,#shrekt in legion? |
| 10:20.55 | VIad | given the glyph for misdirect on pet was removed |
| 10:22.11 | VIad | Shockah|Work: TheDanW only said he'd like to nuke the tooltips and make them better, but he didn't say it would be there for 7.1 :p |
| 10:22.31 | VIad | like to â will do |
| 10:22.46 | Shockah|Work | didn't he say he added a new API function which returns the real item level for an itemlink? |
| 10:24.07 | VIad | he only included my name and I quickly saw what he wrote, unsure if more was said earlier or after I left though |
| 10:24.39 | Shockah|Work | i forgot how to retrieve the logs |
| 10:24.50 | Shockah|Work | mind reminding me? |
| 10:25.03 | Shockah|Work | ~logs |
| 10:25.03 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 10:25.06 | Shockah|Work | nevermind |
| 10:25.15 | VIad | pray it was updated :p |
| 10:26.45 | Seeker` | He added API functions to get the proper ilvl of a linked item |
| 10:26.57 | Seeker` | that would be there in 7.1 |
| 10:27.03 | VIad | hmm, ok. thats nice. |
| 10:29.01 | VIad | I guess we ideally need some sort of C_Tooltip and C_ChatBubbles and whatnot :p |
| 10:29.33 | VIad | and put in api relevant to those in there and make addons use the raw data from those apis, than having to build the ui on the C side, then having to work with tooltips and what not on the lua side ,_, |
| 10:29.37 | Shockah|Work | found it |
| 10:29.43 | Shockah|Work | 31st of August |
| 10:29.46 | Shockah|Work | "i just added GetDetailedItemLevelInfo("itemlink"), which returns the effective item level (same as tooltip), the preview item level (if non-zero means it would have a + in the tooltip), and the base item level just in case its useful" |
| 10:30.06 | VIad | neat |
| 10:32.13 | VIad | googling the API I found an error saying |
| 10:32.36 | Shockah|Work | well the API is not in yet, it's for 7.1, so Google won't help here |
| 10:32.38 | VIad | Message: ...e\AddOns\TheUndermineJournal\TheUndermineJourna l.lua line 236: attempt to call global 'GetDetailedItemLevelInfo' (a nil value) |
| 10:32.44 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 10:50.56 | VIad | this was written some days later, so I guess someone didn't notice or add a check that the api isnt ingame yet :p |
| 10:52.55 | VIad | if GetDetailedItemLevelInfo then ; local effectiveLevel, previewLevel, origLevel = GetDetailedItemLevelInfo(item) ; if effectiveLevel and effectiveLevel ~= origLevel then priceFactor = 1.15^((effectiveLevel - origLevel) / 15) end |
| 10:53.31 | VIad | hopefully there is a PTR to test the api beforehand, in case arguments change :p |
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| 11:16.31 | karl_w_w | just saw a voucher on the back of a shopping reciept |
| 11:16.37 | karl_w_w | for a cheap funeral |
| 11:16.52 | karl_w_w | funerals hey? the classic impluse buy |
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| 11:23.47 | Semlar | maybe it's a veiled threat |
| 11:23.53 | VIad | cheap funerals, oh boy! |
| 11:24.10 | VIad | maybe it's so you can pay for someone elses funeral, like a donation. and it's cheap |
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| 11:29.41 | Freddie | it's the logical next step after twitch bits - gift your favourite streamer a funeral |
| 11:31.19 | Ketho | VIad: pet taunts reverted back to old growl again :s |
| 11:31.23 | plaw | tickles Mr_Rabies |
| 11:32.59 | plaw | OH: 'there's some really nice stuff in legion, unfortunately the mobile app is not one of them' |
| 11:33.04 | plaw | sits on Cairenn |
| 11:33.52 | plaw | blows raspberries @ Wobin |
| 11:34.08 | plaw | Fisker: |
| 11:34.17 | Wobin | bing |
| 11:34.43 | VIad | Ketho: that's bullshit |
| 11:34.59 | VIad | my friends pet is unable to tank for him, he says he aggroes it way to easy as MM |
| 11:35.04 | Fisker | Stop right there criminal scum |
| 11:35.14 | Fisker | You may pay a fine or serve your sentence |
| 11:35.33 | Phixion | :o |
| 11:35.34 | Ketho | didn't fisker once killed a guy |
| 11:35.40 | Phixion | yep |
| 11:40.02 | VIad | I killed a ton ofguys yesterday |
| 11:40.45 | ls- | while riding a goat in Stormheim? |
| 11:41.32 | VIad | I was, but then people interrupted me, so I had to slay them. |
| 11:43.49 | ls- | i love that pvp WQ, killing alliance scum while riding a goat is awesome :D |
| 11:44.18 | ls- | I need to lvl my pvp alt T_T |
| 11:44.23 | ls- | but he's 103 rn :(( |
| 11:44.34 | Phixion | :( |
| 11:44.37 | Shockah|Work | i need to level all my alts |
| 11:44.46 | Shockah|Work | gotta get that sweet Artifact Knowledge |
| 11:45.11 | ls- | too bad it's no account-wide :( |
| 11:45.17 | Shockah|Work | yeah |
| 11:45.25 | ls- | not* |
| 11:48.17 | ls- | k, transmog toast is done. |
| 11:49.57 | VIad | ls-: if you are on EU we can kill each other if you like, I am scum alliance |
| 11:56.00 | VIad | Semlar: could you please map out the world in the broken isles, so that I can probe x,y coordinates on the map, and get a z axis result back, just so I know from my x,y and the target, if I need to go down or up? thanks |
| 11:56.11 | VIad | like make a lib and I'll be happy using it with HBD |
| 11:56.51 | Semlar | that's not really possible |
| 11:57.28 | Shockah|Work | lol heightmaps |
| 11:57.28 | VIad | it has to be possible to map it outside wow |
| 11:57.36 | VIad | and make a lua db for use ingame :p |
| 11:57.48 | Shockah|Work | wouldn't the db be huge |
| 11:57.49 | Semlar | not really, an x,y coordinate doesn't correspond to a single vertical position |
| 11:57.58 | Semlar | and yes the database would be enormous |
| 11:58.03 | Shockah|Work | Semlar, i think he just wants a heightmap of some sorts |
| 11:58.31 | Shockah|Work | because how would you even include caves |
| 11:58.37 | VIad | we could assume two things, snappable x,y coordinates, closest match, and from above POV so ignoring caves :p or having some flag to indicate ambiguity |
| 11:58.43 | Freddie | ls-: transmog toast sounds delicious |
| 11:58.56 | Semlar | ignoring caves i'm not sure what the point of it is |
| 11:58.59 | Shockah|Work | ^ |
| 11:59.10 | VIad | could have a flag "it could be a cave, entrance is x,y" |
| 12:00.22 | VIad | the world terrain usually is caveless, and you have like holes in the world you later add cave objects in it |
| 12:00.37 | VIad | but I guess it would be lame to try parse that data and map ito ut |
| 12:06.58 | VIad | we need z axis on maps :< |
| 12:07.19 | VIad | for personal use ofc :p and C_Map api with like, height check, cave check, whatnot. it would be so good |
| 12:07.41 | VIad | finally make that tomtom arrow point down or up based on heading |
| 12:14.03 | ls- | VIad: I'm on EU :D |
| 12:14.42 | Cairenn | oofs |
| 12:15.45 | ls- | Freddie: http://i.imgur.com/2JC1Qlj.png left one is my new transmog toast :p |
| 12:16.47 | Freddie | toasty |
| 12:17.11 | synnove | needs more cheese |
| 12:17.41 | Semlar | huh, i just got a gold spam message left as a comment on one of my addons on curse |
| 12:18.13 | VIad | ls-: remember to make the upgrade effect actually visible and noticable :p |
| 12:18.35 | VIad | blizz one bugs for me visually and can show upgrades on stuff that didnt |
| 12:18.37 | ls- | Vlad: eh? O_o |
| 12:18.44 | VIad | the toast |
| 12:19.18 | ls- | iirc, there's only one upgrade toast O_o |
| 12:19.41 | VIad | yeah. but make it appear flashy when it shows up, and sound |
| 12:20.03 | VIad | blizz upgrade toast is like the normal one, only they add some arrow animations on it and a different sound |
| 12:20.51 | ls- | yeah, but that's not upgrade toast :D upgrade toast is the second one on pic I linked few messages ago. |
| 12:21.06 | ls- | those are normal toasts w/ slightly upgraded items :p |
| 12:21.11 | ls- | there's a difference |
| 12:21.49 | ls- | proper upgrade toasts have thier own event T_T |
| 12:22.11 | ls- | SHOW_LOOT_TOAST_UPGRADE |
| 12:22.40 | ls- | I also use arrow animations and shit... |
| 12:23.54 | ls- | or you want me to make minor upgrades more noticeable? |
| 12:24.19 | VIad | you had a GUI I remember for options |
| 12:24.36 | VIad | could maybe add some options |
| 12:25.28 | VIad | I dont know about others, but personally I'd like to see the itemlevel (possible in 7.1 :P) as an upgraded 800 to 810 item when I am 845 geared is a pointless popup |
| 12:25.42 | VIad | could later add and use the itemlevel api that will be added and have some filter option |
| 12:25.59 | VIad | for a simple hide items below X or something |
| 12:26.05 | VIad | but this is for the future |
| 12:26.59 | ls- | yeah, if I implement something like that, it'll be around 7.1, ofc if blizz adds needed API :p |
| 12:27.33 | ls- | ain't no one got time for parsing :p |
| 12:30.34 | VIad | parsing tooltips is cancer and should be avoided |
| 12:31.12 | Xuerian | Blizz UI actually does it in some places. Imagine being the one having to come to the decision that was the way to go. |
| 12:31.24 | karl_w_w | clumsy is a very clumsy word |
| 12:31.43 | Phixion | :) |
| 12:31.43 | ls- | Vlad: just checked my code, if item is slightly upgraded, another bg texture is used, arrow animation is added and another sound is played :p what else do you need? :D |
| 12:33.07 | Freddie | can you make it whisper my boss and taunt him every boss he doesn't get loot? |
| 12:33.23 | Freddie | he's really unhappy about frost relics |
| 12:33.25 | VIad | if the item was higher or same ilvl as mine, I'd like for my UI to explode so I am ensured to see the toast |
| 12:33.59 | ls- | ahahahaha :D |
| 12:36.43 | VIad | I once added a hidden wa bit in a script that reanchored the world frame so it shook around |
| 12:36.46 | VIad | my friend was not very happy |
| 12:36.53 | VIad | weakauras* |
| 12:37.06 | Freddie | haha |
| 12:37.06 | VIad | when he targeted me his screen would go nuts |
| 12:38.23 | ls- | shit, I need to recheck all sounds I use for my toasts, I just found out that I didn't assign any sound to major upgrade toast T_T |
| 12:40.20 | VIad | ;_; |
| 12:40.27 | Freddie | artifact weapon links are ugly :( |
| 12:40.36 | Freddie | https://www.wowdb.com/items/128821?bonusIDs=724,1512,1511,1511&gems=137375:1727:1492:1813,141264:3397:1497:3336,141256:3397:1497:3336 |
| 12:40.54 | Shockah|Work | holy shit i didn't know these are THIS bad |
| 12:41.45 | Freddie | that's how much stuff you add to show it properly. well, the 15xx bonusIDs aren't needed but the bnet API returns them |
| 12:41.49 | Freddie | fun times |
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| 12:47.05 | ls- | hory shet, I forgot to add quite many sounds O_o |
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| 12:52.38 | ls- | imho they need to rework itemlinks in 8.0, prune all useless info from it :p |
| 12:53.08 | ls- | things are getting uglier and uglier :p |
| 12:55.12 | Freddie | a socketed artifact link is a pretty amusingly long itemlink too |
| 12:55.27 | Freddie | "|cffe6cc80|Hitem:128821::141265:141264:141256::::110:104:256:9:1:724:274:3:1825:1487:3338:3:3397:1497:3336:3:3397:1497:3336|h[Claws of Ursoc]|h|r" |
| 12:55.55 | Freddie | almost as readable as an ipv6 address |
| 12:56.04 | ls- | haha... |
| 12:56.33 | nevcairiel | why do you really care how many numbers are in there, its just data you dont parse anyway and just carry over =p |
| 12:57.36 | Shockah|Work | it matters when you try to link all 3 artifacts you have in one line |
| 12:58.04 | Freddie | does that even fit in one message? |
| 12:58.05 | ls- | hmmmm.... does it even work? |
| 12:58.16 | Freddie | (also druids are people too and have 4) |
| 12:58.33 | Shockah|Work | i could fit 2 artifacts last time i tried |
| 12:58.59 | Phixion | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 12:59.06 | Shockah|Work | ...rofl |
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| 12:59.42 | Phixion | sorry couldn't resist |
| 12:59.49 | Shockah|Work | it's fine :P |
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| 13:04.04 | znf | oh, wow |
| 13:04.08 | znf | they made the pvp quests 5 hours |
| 13:04.13 | nevcairiel | 6 |
| 13:04.16 | nevcairiel | they doubled them |
| 13:04.30 | Freddie | :( |
| 13:04.52 | Freddie | did they at least double the spawn rate too, single faction servers are depressing |
| 13:05.08 | znf | they were 3? |
| 13:05.10 | nevcairiel | they change every 6 hours, no matter if anyone does them |
| 13:05.12 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:05.21 | znf | oh, right, because it says 2 hours for 2:59 |
| 13:05.35 | Freddie | oh, I thought they were 2 hours too |
| 13:05.37 | nevcairiel | always switches between the two towers in each of the 3 zones that have some, and one of the ffa pvp arenas |
| 13:06.00 | znf | well, that's kind of crap |
| 13:06.06 | znf | where am I going to get my honor points now? |
| 13:06.16 | nevcairiel | same place |
| 13:06.26 | znf | I used to get it from pvp quests! |
| 13:06.30 | znf | more than actual BGs |
| 13:06.33 | nevcairiel | they still exist |
| 13:06.42 | znf | yeah, but double the respawn :( |
| 13:07.27 | nevcairiel | can do more BGs in 3 hours then towers tho |
| 13:07.31 | nevcairiel | and even more in 6 |
| 13:07.43 | znf | as horde, still doesn't get the same honor :D |
| 13:07.43 | Semlar | but then he'd have to play more |
| 13:07.45 | ls- | Vlad: I added 4 missing toast sounds >.> That's quite a lot >:o |
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| 13:11.54 | Seeker` | ls-: added them to what? |
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| 13:15.25 | ls- | Seeker`: we're talking about my addon, ls: Toasts, and how few things were missing... |
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| 15:54.08 | Ketho | is there a way to link world quests in chat or is it a Blizzard bug? |
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| 16:12.15 | p3lim | ls-: that toast addon of yours is quite nice |
| 16:14.07 | Thunder_Child | Someone at work linked me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident with the phrase "never forget." I think I have to go slap him now. |
| 16:41.10 | ls- | p3lim: ty :D |
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| 16:45.58 | VIad | Thunder_Child: never forget |
| 16:46.08 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleslap VIad |
| 16:46.08 | purl | ACTION beats VIad upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 16:47.56 | VIad | I found out why my friend was struggling with the withered army training |
| 16:48.58 | VIad | he started the scenario, talked to her to get the army, and turned 180 and jumped down the hole into the middle, because he did a ton of WQ and had only entered the tunnes that way |
| 16:49.13 | VIad | and the elite guy with the key always said hello |
| 16:59.00 | znf | ...that's what I was doing |
| 16:59.05 | znf | So I'm not the only retard |
| 16:59.13 | znf | (that was on beta, anyway) |
| 16:59.52 | nevcairiel | why does it occur to people to turn around and nost just move forward |
| 17:00.00 | nevcairiel | idiots everywhere |
| 17:00.07 | znf | >because he did a ton of WQ and had only entered the tunnes that way |
| 17:00.08 | znf | that's why |
| 17:00.31 | znf | I wasn't aware you could actually reach the tunnels below by using the entrance in front of you |
| 17:06.10 | nevcairiel | you dont have to be aware, you see a fucking mob down there from the npc site |
| 17:06.11 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:07.24 | nevcairiel | turning around is just so unintuitive, why would you assume its the same thing anyway :D |
| 17:11.31 | Kesava | now, i've been ported to this quest scenario, and there's a tunnel in front of me |
| 17:11.35 | Kesava | what should i do... |
| 17:12.17 | Sharparam | never pick the obvious |
| 17:12.27 | Sharparam | there's always secrets in the hidden paths! |
| 17:19.21 | VIad | I can see if you did like a ton of WQ, and the npc says something like "go down the..." and instant flash backs to the hole behind you :p |
| 17:28.15 | VIad | worst WQ award: clear the skies? shoot 12 sinister shriekers down? |
| 17:28.25 | VIad | its so bad I just go on a hill and tag them from the skies |
| 17:28.48 | Sharparam | anyone have an addon that does the dishes for you? |
| 17:29.32 | VIad | you mean a woman? |
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| 17:29.49 | VIad | or a guy ofc for the other gender |
| 17:32.18 | Sharparam | well, women are proprietary closed-source paid mods, difficult to get :( |
| 17:32.34 | Thunder_Child | Not if you spend enough. |
| 17:33.01 | VIad | if you have a guy room mate you can say you'll beat him if he don't clean up |
| 17:33.09 | VIad | can probably do the same to girl room mate? |
| 17:33.19 | VIad | I am sure it will be just as fine |
| 17:33.42 | Sharparam | you overestimate my ability to give someone a beating |
| 17:34.35 | VIad | you can threaten with touching them while they sleep |
| 17:34.44 | VIad | or pouring water while they sleep |
| 17:34.53 | ls- | wuuut? the other gender? *triggering intensifies* |
| 17:35.15 | Sharparam | i was signing up on some site today, they had "Male" and "Female" |
| 17:35.20 | ls- | genders are social construct and aren't binary!! |
| 17:35.26 | ls- | T_T sorry |
| 17:35.54 | ls- | I just have two women at work, who enjoy saying this kind of bs T_T |
| 17:36.04 | Sharparam | as in seriously, or joking about it? :o |
| 17:36.41 | ls- | unfortunately, srsly :( |
| 17:37.18 | Sharparam | did you tell them you identify as an apache webserver? |
| 17:37.21 | ls- | they're quite die hard feminists, all foreigners, myself included, avoid them... |
| 17:38.32 | ls- | I don't interact w/ them at all |
| 17:38.48 | Thunder_Child | Why would you want to identify as apache? |
| 17:39.29 | Sharparam | because with all those edges in their configs you maximize your edgelord status? |
| 17:39.37 | Thunder_Child | nginx at least. |
| 17:39.44 | VIad | I identify as a meat popsicle |
| 17:40.08 | Thunder_Child | Ok buruce. |
| 17:40.50 | Thunder_Child | It's also been a while since he was on here. |
| 17:42.16 | ls- | you can't imagine how bad it is to have people like that at work, at least they're in accounting department... |
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| 18:02.45 | VIad | is there api to tell you if a quest is completeable in a raid? |
| 18:02.53 | VIad | a lot of WQ are doable in raids, some not. dunno the rule :p |
| 18:04.44 | Stanzilla | random() |
| 18:20.55 | Tentacle1 | Oh. There IS a rule to the stupid Taxi Whistle. It prefers destinations in the current zone - except for special subzones, which remain screwy. |
| 18:29.02 | g0urra | there we go, sent a ticket to blizzard, for not giving me gear in the highmountain chest.. |
| 18:37.45 | Stanzilla | I have one open for over a week now because I did not get rep from a chest :D |
| 18:39.39 | pompy | what chest and how do you know it gives rep? |
| 18:42.28 | nebula | pompy: the emissary chests |
| 18:56.06 | pompy | so the bnet armory finally updated with the legion stuff on my char profile .. but it hasnt updated with new stuff i got 12 hours ago, >< |
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| 19:30.20 | Andols | This is strange... While inside Vanthirs area in Suramar i get "WANTED: Sekhan" world quest. That npc is in Highmountain..... |
| 19:32.42 | Ketho | ~seen Tekkub |
| 19:32.43 | purl | tekkub <~tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 418d 20h 56m ago, saying: 'I hate submodules'. |
| 19:33.16 | Ressy | Ketho: You can tweet him if you wanna bug him. |
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| 19:43.57 | Gnarfoz | "[spb] [Global notice] We've put a cloth over the self-destruct button so that nobody pushes it again." :D |
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| 19:44.50 | Primer | yes, pretty sure we all got that |
| 19:45.08 | Gnarfoz | probably in the server status window for most ^^ |
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| 19:49.35 | foxlit | my irc client blissfully ignores global broadcasts. |
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| 19:53.12 | foxlit | I think it even lacks an option to not do that. |
| 19:54.03 | Phixion | I think thats a umode on most ircds |
| 19:54.35 | nevcairiel | thats just global notices, i dont think you can opt out of those, what you are thinking about might be the wallops chat |
| 19:54.44 | Phixion | ah zeah |
| 19:54.47 | Phixion | yeah |
| 19:54.52 | Sharparam | http://rfl.im/QE |
| 19:54.54 | Sharparam | NO, we shall not |
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| 20:02.44 | VIad | is there a reason azshara is a cross realm zone in the broken isles? |
| 20:03.08 | VIad | to me makes no sense why there is pockets of crz activity on this continent. rule is current expansion limited to realm |
| 20:03.25 | VIad | certain areas outside the isle, in water, count as not being on the broken isles, and cause CRZ behavior |
| 20:03.32 | VIad | it's bizzare design decision |
| 20:03.32 | nevcairiel | all non-continental zones crz because they are not part of the main continent |
| 20:03.48 | nevcairiel | its probably not a decision at all, just not on their list of exceptions =p |
| 20:03.56 | VIad | its like if you went to isle of giants or isle of thunder and you had CRZ |
| 20:03.58 | VIad | in mop |
| 20:04.02 | VIad | or timeless |
| 20:04.15 | VIad | it's a simple check |
| 20:04.20 | VIad | if mapID = 1220 then no CRZ |
| 20:04.38 | VIad | like how they did it in mop and wod and so on |
| 20:04.47 | nevcairiel | get back to your armchair |
| 20:05.04 | VIad | I hope there isn't a "if map = # or map = # or map = # or ... then CRZ = false end" in their code for legion :p |
| 20:06.53 | Shockah | VIad, there are some world quests sending you there i think? |
| 20:08.14 | sticklord | Anyone might know why my chat addon is tainting the worldmap? |
| 20:09.15 | znf_ | http://i.imgur.com/1RwixN9.png |
| 20:09.17 | znf_ | I don't have skinning |
| 20:09.44 | nevcairiel | you also seem to have lost all UI textures |
| 20:09.59 | nevcairiel | you cant receive support like this |
| 20:16.07 | sticklord | me? |
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| 20:26.24 | VIad | the web floor thing in suramar/falanaar dungeons is weird |
| 20:26.33 | VIad | doesnt block LOS, can walk on top, can't target it as ground |
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| 20:36.25 | Primer | Feral guide on icy veins says master > crit, yet suggests crit ring enchants... |
| 20:36.29 | Primer | Not sure how that works |
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| 20:37.56 | nebula | a lot of it is copy/pasted, i noticed the enchants/consumables pages usually lag behind |
| 20:38.25 | jro | question: getspellcooldown only returns the cooldown if the spell currently has a cooldown, is there a way to show what the cooldown would be should it be cast? |
| 20:40.32 | Primer | Yes |
| 20:41.44 | nevcairiel | no good way |
| 20:42.42 | jro | that stinks since i want to know what the current gcd duration is but can only check while in the gcd |
| 20:44.04 | jro | id have to manually calculate based on haste |
| 20:58.13 | znf | Has anyone had this happen? http://i.imgur.com/zd2XSA6.png |
| 20:58.21 | znf | I did the pvp quest, it showed a cloak |
| 20:58.24 | znf | but no cloak?! O.o |
| 20:59.35 | nevcairiel | do you use an addon that might have been confused? |
| 21:00.23 | znf | nope |
| 21:00.25 | znf | nothing in my bags |
| 21:00.30 | znf | nothing in my mailboxx |
| 21:00.47 | nebula | maybe it was a boe that got hotfixed out? |
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| 21:01.16 | znf | it's a pvp one, I'm sure they've always been BoP |
| 21:01.35 | nevcairiel | when the hotfix was applied it re-shuffled all rewards, but that was yesterday |
| 21:01.41 | nebula | ah |
| 21:01.55 | znf | The PvP ones refresh every 6 hours anyway |
| 21:02.49 | Primer | I got a 840 cloak from a pvp one the other day |
| 21:03.35 | nevcairiel | i still dont understand pvp gear rewards |
| 21:03.45 | nevcairiel | occasionally i get an 840, but most of the time its still 805 |
| 21:04.17 | Primer | well, it showed as 840 on the map |
| 21:04.20 | Primer | is what I meant to say |
| 21:04.45 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:04.50 | znf | nevcairiel, honor level |
| 21:05.03 | znf | if you're at 40+, apparently you get only 840+ |
| 21:05.07 | znf | (or prestige) |
| 21:05.09 | nevcairiel | still makes no sense that it only rarely gives 840 |
| 21:05.13 | nevcairiel | and why not add an intermediate level |
| 21:07.58 | nebula | don't want pve people gearing up with it? |
| 21:08.25 | nevcairiel | its not like getting 840 is hard |
| 21:08.30 | znf | it's easy to get honor level anyway |
| 21:08.46 | Primer | The pvp world quests give honor, IIRC |
| 21:08.52 | Primer | Even when killing NPCs |
| 21:08.57 | nebula | yes |
| 21:08.59 | nevcairiel | i'm only 26, but all i have done is the towers |
| 21:09.15 | Primer | heh, I'm only 22 and I've actually done some bgs |
| 21:09.22 | foxlit | That's quite a lot of towers, nev. |
| 21:09.26 | Primer | and the FFA zones |
| 21:09.39 | nevcairiel | well those AP rewards are nice! |
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| 21:09.46 | Primer | yesterday's FFA zone was great |
| 21:09.52 | nevcairiel | actually i did like 3 or 4 ffa WQs as well |
| 21:10.03 | nevcairiel | the one in the drogbar mountain is kinda meh tho |
| 21:10.11 | nevcairiel | why dont player kills reward progress there, its bad |
| 21:10.25 | Primer | A pit in a cave. You click an item that lowers your fall damage by 90% and you jump way down into the pit. NPCs have 15m HP, but there are berserker buffs all over the place |
| 21:10.39 | nevcairiel | thats the one i mean |
| 21:10.45 | nevcairiel | you only m ake progress by killing the npcs |
| 21:10.45 | Primer | yeah, that's the one I meant |
| 21:10.47 | nevcairiel | why not players |
| 21:10.57 | Primer | that was one bad thing, yes |
| 21:10.58 | znf | I'm prestige 1 |
| 21:11.01 | foxlit | Per time invested they're pretty meh, but kind of limited on ap sources. |
| 21:11.03 | Primer | I figured it was bugged |
| 21:11.09 | znf | <nevcairiel> why dont player kills reward progress there, its bad |
| 21:11.10 | znf | ? |
| 21:11.11 | znf | they do |
| 21:11.18 | Primer | no they don't |
| 21:11.18 | nevcairiel | not in the drogbar mountain |
| 21:11.25 | Primer | that ^^^ |
| 21:11.25 | znf | yeah they do |
| 21:11.27 | nevcairiel | we zerked down quite a bunch of players, zero progress |
| 21:11.32 | Primer | That was not my experience |
| 21:11.38 | Primer | I had to kill NPCs before completing it |
| 21:11.39 | nevcairiel | only the npcs did |
| 21:11.48 | Primer | Granted, I killed plenty of players too, only because I could |
| 21:11.50 | znf | you on pvp realm? |
| 21:11.54 | nevcairiel | nah pve |
| 21:11.55 | Primer | yes |
| 21:11.55 | znf | I know nev isn't |
| 21:12.13 | Primer | nevcairiel: what class/spec? |
| 21:12.19 | nevcairiel | guardian druid |
| 21:12.29 | Primer | heh |
| 21:12.30 | znf | weird |
| 21:12.35 | znf | I definately did get progress |
| 21:12.44 | znf | we're normally chill in our area, never attacking each other |
| 21:12.44 | Primer | definitely* |
| 21:12.52 | znf | but a warlock attacked me once |
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| 21:13.01 | znf | so I killed him like 5 times in return |
| 21:13.09 | Primer | He must have been pretty bad |
| 21:14.03 | znf | I have (well, had) all honor talents |
| 21:14.09 | znf | my psyfiend wrecks him :P |
| 21:14.47 | Primer | or that |
| 21:15.09 | Primer | Had some dude in /1 in a zone saying how honor didn't matter...how clueless can people be? |
| 21:15.17 | znf | this time it does |
| 21:15.29 | znf | well, up to rank10 it's quite important^^ |
| 21:15.49 | znf | I only need rank25 for all my good honor talents |
| 21:16.24 | znf | Don't think I should have Prestige'd |
| 21:21.21 | Primer | Unlearned section says this one cooking recipe drops from a mob, which I presume is a rare, which I've killed before...killed it again just now and no recipe |
| 21:21.43 | znf | kill him some more |
| 21:21.47 | foxlit | reddit says you should gm ticket that. |
| 21:21.53 | znf | me? |
| 21:21.54 | znf | or Primer ? |
| 21:21.59 | foxlit | Primer. |
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| 21:22.20 | Primer | thanks |
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| 21:53.27 | foxlit | Flight pricing from the druid order hall to stormheim is annoying |
| 21:54.51 | foxlit | It chooses to like curve through 7 flight points along the way if you want to go to somewhere like Valdisdall, which seems like a waste compared to hopping through the dalaran portal and flying the 2-stop route from there. |
| 21:55.24 | Primer | agreed |
| 21:55.33 | Primer | I often port to Dalaran and do just that |
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| 21:59.09 | Primer | damn chat settings keep getting hosed on my new toon |
| 21:59.44 | Primer | I copy WTF/Account/X/Realm/Main/chat-config.txt to WTF/Account/X/Realm/Alt but that seems to work only once |
| 21:59.47 | Sharparam | that reminds me |
| 21:59.58 | Sharparam | is there a way to sync the position/size of the chat across characters? |
| 22:00.04 | Primer | ^^^^^^^ |
| 22:00.29 | Sharparam | i bet it's off by a tiny amount of pixels on every toon |
| 22:00.48 | Primer | might have to copy layout-local.txt too |
| 22:00.50 | Primer | hrmm |
| 22:02.02 | Primer | ok, this time it worked |
| 22:02.15 | Primer | I copied both chat-config.txt and layout-local.txt |
| 22:03.56 | synnove | inneresting |
| 22:04.09 | synnove | does that copy over stuff like new windows you make? |
| 22:04.14 | Primer | yes |
| 22:04.15 | synnove | recreating all those always gets me >< |
| 22:04.18 | synnove | sweeeeeeeeeet |
| 22:04.28 | synnove | i'll do that next time :) |
| 22:08.39 | Tentacle1 | This is bullshit. http://puu.sh/raeOq/220031e875.jpg http://puu.sh/rakg0/907186d372.png Flight Whistle took me from the very same spot to two different destinations. There goes my "closest taxi in zone" theory, which held perfectly fine so far, with the exception of Dreamgrove... |
| 22:10.12 | znf | I joined Ashran |
| 22:10.18 | znf | there's some guy acting all leader-y |
| 22:10.23 | znf | I feel like I'm a Starcraft 2 unit |
| 22:10.35 | znf | do this, stop, regroup here, kill that, wait, stop, go, now, regroup |
| 22:10.45 | Unkle | Tell him you need more Vespene Gas. |
| 22:10.46 | Primer | probably a premade? |
| 22:11.05 | Unkle | Or he Must Construct Additional Pylons. |
| 22:11.05 | Primer | I used to do those all the time back in WoD. Easiest way to gear up after leveling an alt ever. |
| 22:11.12 | foxlit | "No, I wanna charge randomly at the enemy and die horribly!" |
| 22:11.39 | nebula | some people just like to direct though |
| 22:11.48 | znf | not a premade |
| 22:11.52 | znf | not that it's bad |
| 22:11.55 | nebula | those* |
| 22:12.24 | Primer | Well, if people aren't on the same page, events don't get won, opposing faction bosses don't get killed |
| 22:13.00 | Primer | I'd often get RL in Assram and I'd spam /rw |
| 22:13.10 | Primer | If people didn't like it, they were free to leave |
| 22:13.16 | Tentacle1 | znf, simple question: does his direction suck? :> |
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| 22:13.29 | Primer | Otherwise I did pretty well getting things done in there |
| 22:13.29 | kullervo | znf: that's how Ashran is won.. by having someone tell the group wtf to do |
| 22:13.40 | Unkle | I dislike being ordered around without having consented to it. |
| 22:13.50 | Unkle | I'm contrary like that. |
| 22:13.55 | kullervo | you must like losing |
| 22:14.01 | Tentacle1 | Many whelps! Handle it! |
| 22:14.01 | Unkle | I hate PVP. |
| 22:14.15 | Unkle | No, hate is too weak a word. |
| 22:14.17 | Primer | You're not obligated to do what the leader tells you to do |
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| 22:14.24 | Unkle | I fucking LOATHE PVP. |
| 22:14.32 | Primer | I often times didn't bother and would just farm rares for the flight form books |
| 22:14.35 | Primer | damn |
| 22:14.37 | kullervo | but you're at fault if the team loses and you didn't do what the leader told you to :^) |
| 22:14.40 | Primer | I deleted those :( |
| 22:14.41 | Primer | I had 5 |
| 22:14.48 | Primer | Didn't think I'd do Assram ever again |
| 22:15.03 | znf | Tentacle1, no, it doesn't suck |
| 22:15.06 | znf | just that... wow |
| 22:15.46 | Primer | I love pvp |
| 22:15.49 | Unkle | I used to go just Ashram just to fight the things I needed for the Garrison Auction House. Eventually I gave up. Battles didn't last long enough for me to meaningfully farm mobs. |
| 22:16.03 | Primer | Gotta think on your toes. React accordingly. It's not like fighting a script. |
| 22:16.35 | Primer | I probably farmed each AH piece x 10 in Assram |
| 22:16.40 | Primer | Sold them all too |
| 22:16.42 | Primer | made bank |
| 22:18.10 | Unkle | I'm happy for you. |
| 22:26.14 | Primer | No you're not |
| 22:26.35 | kullervo | I flipped many of those |
| 22:27.50 | Primer | znf: How's honor gains in Assram? |
| 22:28.01 | Primer | Is it worth grinding it strictly for honor? |
| 22:28.11 | Primer | Granted, what else is there in there now? |
| 22:28.19 | Primer | AP items? |
| 22:29.39 | znf | not worth it |
| 22:29.40 | znf | so far |
| 22:29.42 | znf | no ap |
| 22:32.51 | znf | just honor |
| 22:32.54 | znf | 500 for victory |
| 22:33.23 | nevcairiel | considering how long ashran takes, that doesnt seem worth it |
| 22:35.49 | znf | we have the events |
| 22:35.56 | znf | but still need to kill the faction leader |
| 22:36.00 | znf | and I've been here for 1 hour |
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| 22:59.09 | foxlit | anyone have a favorite libcurl binding for Lua? |
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| 23:03.40 | Sharparam | http://rfl.im/Qj i'm not sure what just transpired... |
| 23:05.35 | MuffinPvEHero | lol |
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| 23:10.33 | Sharparam | i wish the statistics tab would tell me what i bought on AH for precisely 80k :d |
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| 23:32.38 | znf | b.net just went down for me :-/ |
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| 23:33.09 | Sharparam | i just got kicked out of game |
| 23:33.15 | fewyn | me too |
| 23:33.19 | fewyn | everything just went down |
| 23:33.24 | Sharparam | i guess i'll go sleep |
| 23:33.35 | Sharparam | maintenance soon anyway |
| 23:33.41 | znf | holy shit |
| 23:33.43 | znf | it's 2:33 |
| 23:33.47 | znf | fuck |
| 23:33.51 | znf | I haven't done a billion quests O.o |
| 23:34.13 | kullervo | I don't think this is maintenance |
| 23:34.19 | kullervo | it wasn't announced |
| 23:34.25 | Rythal | it's not, b.net went down at the same time we all got kicked |
| 23:34.37 | Rythal | that and i'm in NA, maint already finished |
| 23:34.46 | znf | oh, so all b.net :o |
| 23:34.47 | fewyn | ^ |
| 23:34.51 | fewyn | same as Rythal |
| 23:34.51 | Sharparam | no but the maintenance will be soon (03:00 CEST) |
| 23:35.07 | Sharparam | for europe |
| 23:35.22 | Rythal | B.net says i'm in a queue to login now |
| 23:35.34 | znf | that's 1 hour and half |
| 23:35.35 | Thunder_Child | But it goes nowhere. |
| 23:35.40 | Sharparam | oh Rythal is here :o |
| 23:35.45 | Rythal | am not |
| 23:35.55 | Sharparam | Rythal: carbonite is behaving weird in sub-zone place thingies |
| 23:36.00 | Sharparam | like thunder totem and class halls |
| 23:36.13 | Rythal | behaving weird how |
| 23:36.22 | Sharparam | can't scroll out of them like it used to be able to |
| 23:36.32 | Sharparam | and scrolling makes it zoom in/out weirdly |
| 23:36.41 | Sharparam | and move around in an attempt to center at the cursor |
| 23:36.44 | Rythal | oh, that's not weird, they are "dungeons" not overland maps so no scrolling |
| 23:36.51 | fewyn | http://i.imgur.com/J2K11m0.png |
| 23:37.10 | Rythal | it's blizzards fault for making everything instances now |
| 23:37.21 | Sharparam | it would be nice to be able to zoom out of them and into the main map so i don't have to switch to default map with alt+m to look at world :d |
| 23:38.12 | Sharparam | i remember instance maps used to be "embedded" on the world map and you could zoom out to view the normal map? |
| 23:39.41 | Rythal | could be, i know there was some reason it got locked... maybe when everything actually works i'll look into allowing it again |
| 23:41.01 | Rythal | right now i'm on the verge of just throwing in the towel and abandining the entire thing... keeping it private for my own personal use, but who knows how i'll feel in a week :P |
| 23:42.35 | znf | How long is the maintenance? |
| 23:42.51 | znf | I didn't do my withered :-S |
| 23:43.37 | Sharparam | the regular maintenance in europe is 03:00-07:00 CEST, dunno how long this outage thing is gonna be |
| 23:44.01 | znf | Shit. |
| 23:44.09 | Sharparam | Rythal: aww D: |
| 23:44.11 | znf | well, that's what I get for slacking all day |
| 23:44.24 | Primer | You have 3 days to do it |
| 23:44.35 | znf | it expires at 9... |
| 23:44.48 | Primer | The first day I got it was the day I turned 110, and I did it again the next day |
| 23:45.07 | znf | Yes, because it resets for everyone every 3 days |
| 23:45.08 | znf | on the same day |
| 23:45.11 | znf | not individual |
| 23:45.19 | Primer | I got the neck and trinket combo from the new mythics that finally unlocked |
| 23:45.24 | Rythal | I just got in, login queue was about 10 mins |
| 23:45.32 | znf | EU is dead |
| 23:45.36 | Primer | one is warforged too! |
| 23:45.47 | Primer | No legendary yet though :( |
| 23:46.02 | Rythal | I hate everyone who got legendaries off first cache they opened |
| 23:46.05 | Primer | Inspected another player in pretty much all blues...and one legendary |
| 23:46.12 | znf | EU is still dead |
| 23:46.22 | nebula | Primer: and he probably has a higher ilvl than you! |
| 23:46.26 | Primer | naw |
| 23:46.32 | Primer | I'm 845 |
| 23:46.34 | Ssateneth | rip servers |
| 23:46.39 | Ssateneth | im 860 |
| 23:46.51 | Primer | How many legendaries? |
| 23:46.54 | Ssateneth | 9001 |
| 23:47.07 | Primer | Why must you be like that |
| 23:47.12 | Ssateneth | Kappa |
| 23:47.27 | nebula | i'm 846, our other tank got a legendary in his second heroic and was 842 with shit gear x.x |
| 23:47.49 | Rythal | I'm such a slacker.. I have 830 and i'm happy with that, it'll last me until LFR opens and I can get my welfare sets |
| 23:48.01 | znf | come the fuck on EU |
| 23:48.04 | Ssateneth | sooooooo have to spam heroics and hope for TF to get 850? mythics? obliterum gear? |
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| 23:48.29 | nebula | mythics for me, 850 crafted is like 200k a peice |
| 23:49.18 | znf | I personally don't get shit from mythics |
| 23:49.24 | znf | only crap items :-/ |
| 23:49.48 | znf | think we disenchanted about 6 items last week |
| 23:49.52 | Primer | I've been really lucky in mythics |
| 23:49.54 | nebula | my weapon is low, too, can't get shit for relics |
| 23:50.38 | Rythal | I'm on a cheeseball server that demands 835 to join a mythic group |
| 23:50.43 | nebula | lol |
| 23:50.47 | Primer | I got a 850 relic in mine |
| 23:51.03 | nebula | mythics are basically old heroic difficulty |
| 23:51.03 | Primer | Also, there's an 840 from Maw as a world quest today, IIRC |
| 23:51.08 | Primer | yes, I know |
| 23:51.13 | znf | Primer, that depends on class |
| 23:51.13 | nebula | we cleared all of them in 780 gear |
| 23:51.16 | znf | not everyone gets relics |
| 23:51.16 | Primer | They're not hard at all |
| 23:52.15 | Rythal | 840+ life relic.. with tear the flesh, useless trait |
| 23:52.27 | nebula | meh, ilvl is all that really matters |
| 23:52.52 | Primer | well, it'd be removing a rip relic |
| 23:53.05 | Primer | which is my best trait |
| 23:53.14 | Rythal | same.. all 3 of my relics are 825 w/rip |
| 23:53.19 | znf | EU is up |
| 23:53.22 | znf | login queue tough |
| 23:53.26 | Rythal | i'd rather keep the lower ilvl then replace rip |
| 23:53.26 | znf | position: 1 |
| 23:53.27 | znf | ok... |
| 23:53.55 | Primer | I thought tear the flesh seemed ok |
| 23:54.01 | Primer | at one point I had 5 points in that |
| 23:54.20 | Primer | I know that one relic I have is total crap, not even a linked trait |
| 23:54.27 | Primer | Can the armory show weapon traits yet? |
| 23:54.45 | Ssateneth | and i guess people demand more ilvl than what the dungeon drops, right? |
| 23:55.08 | Rythal | isn't that always the case? people wanna get carried |
| 23:55.33 | Primer | Rythal: Have you found any good feral guides/spreadsheets/etc.? |
| 23:55.42 | Primer | I feel that icy veins is...wrong |
| 23:56.02 | Ssateneth | im 822, is that enough? |
| 23:56.07 | Rythal | icy veins is usually wrong since it's based around simcrafting with high end gear |
| 23:56.18 | Primer | Saying mastery ss the top stat, yet recommending crit ring enchants |
| 23:56.29 | Primer | s/ss/is/ |
| 23:58.05 | znf | I still prefer AMR |
| 23:59.06 | znf | by the time this shit gets up |
| 23:59.10 | znf | (login servers) |
| 23:59.13 | znf | they have to do maintenance... |
| 23:59.14 | znf | :( |
