| 00:00.38 | Ammako | i used to like chrome, but the devs really like to remove features for no reason, for some reason |
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| 00:06.12 | znf | Whelp, I guess I'm not crafting anything: http://i.imgur.com/f2QSSfG.png |
| 00:06.20 | znf | Ammako, "remove features"? |
| 00:06.27 | znf | are you talking about the retarded backspace? |
| 00:06.55 | Ammako | i might have jumped ship early enough to not really know about that |
| 00:07.53 | Ammako | but stuff like removing the right-click loop option on youtube videos, removing the disable directwrite option, and other things i forgot about |
| 00:08.38 | Ammako | and then people start complaining about it during dev release, then it moves into beta, and then makes it into stable, and then takes forever to be added back in, if they even do. i didn't wanna deal with that |
| 00:09.00 | Gnarfoz | they are always utterly convinced nothing could possibly be wrong with their ideas/decisions |
| 00:09.53 | znf | I'm pretty sure that the loop one is a html5 spec |
| 00:10.07 | znf | as in, a website can control the looping on/off? |
| 00:10.31 | Ammako | not sure. all i know is that at the time, other browsers didn't have it, only chrome. |
| 00:10.48 | znf | it has loop, both chrome and firefox |
| 00:10.50 | Ammako | a lot more convenient to just right-click Loop than to use some random extension that adds a loop button |
| 00:10.58 | znf | and directwrite kicks ass |
| 00:10.58 | Ammako | yeah i use firefox now and its had it for a while |
| 00:11.12 | znf | Why would you even want to disable that? |
| 00:11.14 | Ammako | but at the time |
| 00:11.16 | znf | Everything looks like crap without it |
| 00:11.23 | Ammako | i hate blurry fonts |
| 00:11.36 | znf | are you on Windows XP or something? |
| 00:11.48 | Ammako | 10 |
| 00:11.59 | znf | not sure how that's blurry... |
| 00:12.00 | znf | oh well |
| 00:12.20 | Ammako | i could go take comparison screenshots but that would require reinstalling chrome and meh |
| 00:12.44 | Sharparam | disabling directwrite brings me back to using our win98 at home |
| 00:16.55 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/V4979AP.png |
| 00:17.01 | znf | I don't know, I don't see anything blurry |
| 00:17.24 | znf | Firefox does something funky with font weights, though |
| 00:18.11 | Ammako | this is how i like my stuff to look https://i.imgur.com/oqO86JN.png |
| 00:18.21 | znf | oh my god |
| 00:18.27 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 00:18.35 | znf | that's... sharp |
| 00:18.37 | Ammako | and directwrite on chrome prevents that |
| 00:18.40 | znf | and edgy |
| 00:18.45 | znf | yeah, that's horrible |
| 00:18.53 | Ammako | that's your opinion |
| 00:19.14 | znf | that feels like being eyestabbed |
| 00:19.33 | mckenziemc | for some people subpixel rendering causes distracting chromatic aberration, iirc |
| 00:20.12 | Ammako | this looks a lot cleaner and clearer to me |
| 00:20.39 | Ammako | I also like Verdana a lot for some reason |
| 00:20.52 | znf | you're every webdesigners' nightmare |
| 00:22.07 | Ammako | :) |
| 00:23.35 | znf | so you're not on WindowsXP |
| 00:23.43 | znf | you just like the WindowsXPerience |
| 00:24.10 | Ammako | good thing the way I make my browser look doesn't affect anyone else, eh |
| 00:26.16 | Ammako | btw my irc window looks the same atm |
| 00:27.50 | znf | dies |
| 00:40.27 | Gnarfoz | mckenziemc: if that's the case, it probably picked the wrong settings for the user's display |
| 00:43.50 | znf | is there any setting to disable the damn weather? |
| 00:43.54 | znf | that rain hurts my eyes |
| 00:44.21 | Gnarfoz | stop looking at the sky when it rains |
| 00:44.40 | znf | I'm not looking at the sky... |
| 00:44.56 | Ammako | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:45.28 | znf | I don't think that does anything anymore |
| 00:45.37 | Ammako | it doesn't disable it but it makes it a lot better |
| 00:46.18 | Ammako | in stormheim it makes a world of a difference |
| 00:51.45 | Gnarfoz | if you're not looking up and are still getting rain in your eyes, maybe stay inside :> |
| 01:03.56 | znf | beats Gnarfoz with a stick |
| 01:04.04 | znf | ...why are there _4_ tailoring cloaks |
| 01:10.41 | Ammako | they're tailored towards different target audiences |
| 01:10.55 | kullervo | pls delete your chat client |
| 01:15.10 | znf | who? |
| 01:15.35 | znf | but, really now, they're 4 cloaks |
| 01:15.39 | znf | with slightly different mats |
| 01:15.43 | znf | same stats, ilvl etc. |
| 01:26.21 | znf | well now http://i.imgur.com/bbcUWsh.png |
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| 02:11.55 | Mr_Rabies | having to turn my lights off in my room to quest in stormheim at night :< |
| 02:13.32 | ls- | that's because you might have rabies... |
| 02:13.40 | ls- | I'm sorry :( |
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| 02:18.20 | znf | Hmm |
| 02:18.25 | znf | Is there no GatherMate2 data for Legion? |
| 02:40.59 | nebula | should be, it's just scraped |
| 02:49.42 | znf | not updated |
| 02:49.54 | znf | Updated Dec 13, 2015 |
| 02:50.15 | nebula | probably nevcairiel's fault |
| 02:50.42 | nebula | oh nope, kagaro |
| 02:52.15 | nebula | he doesn't even have his scraping script commited, rip |
| 02:55.45 | znf | so many fucking nodes for legion |
| 02:55.46 | znf | wtf |
| 02:55.58 | znf | Living Leystone, Leystone Seam, Leystone Deposit |
| 02:56.38 | znf | gathering professions are weird |
| 02:58.58 | znf | Oh, it seems that it's not even going to be a data for Legion |
| 02:59.50 | znf | gathering nodes are personal now, and they spawn randomly, all over the place |
| 03:00.14 | znf | RIP economy |
| 03:00.33 | Primer | check the price on that shit |
| 03:00.39 | Primer | it's still WAY high |
| 03:01.01 | Torhal | It is at the start of every expansion. |
| 03:01.04 | nebula | not personal, they last for a few seconds after you mine it then despawn like normal |
| 03:01.34 | Primer | yes, but this is pretty high, even for the start of an expansion |
| 03:02.07 | nebula | because everyone has so much fucking gold from garrisons |
| 03:02.08 | znf | That's because bots can't supply the economy anymore |
| 03:02.28 | znf | like it or not, on medium/high-pop servers bots keep the supply of gathering mats high |
| 03:02.56 | znf | on our server, one or two years ago, when bots got mass-banned, our prices increased about 3 times for ores and herbs |
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| 03:10.03 | ls- | daaaamn, something is definitely wrong w/ world map, some parts of it are taintable, others are not :p |
| 03:12.04 | ls- | So, I got really tired of 2x [ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED] AddOn 'ls_Wishlist' tried to call the protected function 'WorldMapScrollFrame:SetHorizontalScroll()' and decided to override global WorldMapScrollFrame_ResetZoom function, and you know what? it didn't taint anything at all O_o |
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| 03:28.16 | Neffi | ls-: of course it tainted stuff. |
| 03:28.30 | Neffi | every variable you set gets taint attached |
| 03:28.57 | Neffi | the question is whether or not that taint breaks anything, and you can't be sire just because something doesn't immediately blow up |
| 03:29.05 | ls- | ikr, but after testing for half an hour I haven't seen any negative consequences... |
| 03:29.09 | ls- | that's what I meant... |
| 03:29.39 | Neffi | trace all possible codepaths through which the taint may propagate in framexml. or use secure hooks. |
| 03:30.11 | ls- | secure hooks are post hooks, they are useless in this situation T_T |
| 03:30.56 | Neffi | then maybe fix the offending addon :) |
| 03:31.23 | ls- | impossible |
| 03:31.49 | ls- | even impossibru :D |
| 03:32.44 | ls- | it adds a module to default objective tracker, and it's impossible to do so w/o tainting world map T_T |
| 03:35.04 | ls- | wish we could add modules securely |
| 03:41.54 | ls- | hacks, hacks everywhere T_T |
| 03:44.30 | ls- | a necessary evil :( |
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| 04:10.52 | znf | >_< |
| 04:10.58 | znf | when you check your companion app |
| 04:11.02 | znf | before you go to bed |
| 04:11.06 | znf | but you notice there's a shadow relic quest |
| 04:11.23 | nebula | i just vendored an 850 shadow relic |
| 04:11.26 | nebula | garbage |
| 04:12.19 | Stanzilla | item restore |
| 04:13.06 | Stanzilla | the day will come where you need it |
| 04:13.25 | nebula | for what |
| 04:14.26 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 04:14.29 | Stanzilla | what does arms use? |
| 04:14.42 | nebula | that's the third in arms, already has an 850 |
| 04:16.10 | nebula | that and fire is all i get ;; |
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| 04:31.31 | Semlar | i'm really confused about what you get from archaeology now |
| 04:31.44 | Semlar | there don't seem to be any items listed for it on wowhead |
| 04:32.01 | ls- | iirc, there's a mount |
| 04:32.10 | Semlar | well, there's the old stuff |
| 04:32.25 | Semlar | but i'm trying to figure out what they added in legion |
| 04:32.31 | ls- | nah, new moose ghost :p |
| 04:32.53 | ls- | http://www.wowhead.com/item=131734/spirit-of-echero |
| 04:33.01 | Semlar | i'm also not sure what crating an artifact does |
| 04:33.09 | Semlar | it says to turn it in somewhere for something |
| 04:34.43 | Constie | http://www.wowhead.com/guides/professions/legion/professions-overview#archaeology |
| 04:37.07 | Semlar | oic |
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| 05:30.44 | nevcairiel | nebula: i didnt even see data for legion nodes on wowhead, so there is that |
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| 06:29.16 | Primer | Anyone know if there's a new neverending flask in Legion? |
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| 06:33.44 | nevcairiel | i didnt see one yet |
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| 07:15.02 | VIad | the mission timer on the app shows 2h but it's actually 2h55m so when I later come back after 2h, I see 55m left message and wonder if I remembered wrong :p |
| 07:15.36 | nebula | blizz time, always rounding down |
| 07:16.00 | karl_w_w | so I bought 18 AA batteries for $18 |
| 07:16.01 | VIad | I got screen space for one additional digit, I wouldn't mind it showing the minutes |
| 07:16.02 | karl_w_w | great! |
| 07:16.11 | karl_w_w | odd thing is, they're packaged in lots of 3 |
| 07:16.25 | karl_w_w | who needs 3 batteries for anything? |
| 07:16.29 | nebula | scavenged from old remotes and shit? lol |
| 07:16.52 | VIad | the 3rd is what you put when the remote needs 2, but only replacing one still makes it work |
| 07:16.58 | karl_w_w | nah new energizer batteries |
| 07:17.21 | VIad | do batteries still have the gimmick to hold down to places to see charge? |
| 07:17.32 | VIad | sounds expensivey |
| 07:17.34 | karl_w_w | some duracells do |
| 07:17.49 | VIad | pay $1 extra to see battery charge |
| 07:18.19 | VIad | I remember it hurt my fingers having to push the edges so hard for it to work |
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| 07:30.00 | Phixion | what VIad said |
| 07:31.31 | VIad | yeah, Phixion. we should start a pitchfork club against those type of batteries. waising money on some gimmick. >:( |
| 07:31.44 | Phixion | :D |
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| 07:36.38 | VIad | I wonder if you get the apk file and look at the sources, if there is a non-auth based way to get the worldquest list from the servers. |
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| 07:39.14 | VIad | ideally bnet api but that system hasnt had any additions for a while now |
| 07:45.37 | nevcairiel | world quests are character specific, as they show up and hide with quest unlocks |
| 07:45.41 | nevcairiel | so probably not |
| 07:47.04 | VIad | but the region WQ are same for all right? |
| 07:47.11 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 07:47.34 | nevcairiel | you can check http://www.wowhead.com/world-quests/europe, but it ignores quest related locks, so not all listed there are available to you |
| 07:47.36 | VIad | like if you can see the WQ (attunement), you do |
| 07:47.40 | VIad | yes |
| 07:47.42 | nevcairiel | this is mostly suramar which has this |
| 07:47.52 | VIad | and that one rare in azshara island |
| 07:47.56 | VIad | with the orbs |
| 07:48.14 | VIad | fun fact, I cant click that island to zoom into it on the legion app :p |
| 07:48.23 | VIad | so I dunno if it can show an icon there or not |
| 07:48.27 | VIad | like technically |
| 07:48.34 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 07:48.40 | nevcairiel | has had a warden WQ up in beta occasionally |
| 07:48.53 | nevcairiel | oh in fact its up right now |
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| 08:02.24 | ls- | ffs, I can use Thai plastic w/ Russian PayPal account, I have to create Thai acc to use Thai cards T_T |
| 08:03.58 | ls- | can't* |
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| 08:07.23 | ls- | but if I create Thai acc, my nationality will be set to Thailand, lol |
| 08:08.46 | ls- | being an expat is soooo annoying sometimes :( |
| 08:08.58 | Semlar | does anyone know if mark of the distant army shows up in combat logs correctly |
| 08:09.13 | Semlar | since mark of the hidden satyr isn't attributed to the player |
| 08:09.30 | nevcairiel | why dont you grab one and find out for us |
| 08:09.31 | Alram | <VIad> I wonder if you get the apk file and look at the sources, if there is a non-auth based way to get the worldquest list from the servers. |
| 08:09.40 | Alram | doubt it, it literally connects to the WoW servers |
| 08:09.49 | Alram | not much APIing going on |
| 08:10.17 | Semlar | i would but chaos crystals are absurdly high on the auction house right now so i sold all of mine |
| 08:11.09 | nevcairiel | well sure without raids the supply of crystals is quite limited |
| 08:12.39 | ls- | eh? they're like 700g/ea, that's quite cheap O_o |
| 08:15.53 | nevcairiel | they were like a couple thousand each on the weekend here |
| 08:18.42 | ls- | damn... |
| 08:19.32 | ls- | ~800g/ea on my realm rn |
| 08:28.06 | Semlar | i just bought all of the cheap ones and resold them for 1500g |
| 08:29.24 | Semlar | i think they're mostly from people crafting bracers and disenchanting them |
| 08:29.44 | Semlar | leather was cheap until they nerfed the amount you got from skinning |
| 08:30.02 | Semlar | so the price might actually be going up |
| 08:31.25 | nevcairiel | the chance for a crystal is pretty low on blue bracers |
| 08:32.24 | Semlar | you get epic procs on crafting |
| 08:32.42 | nevcairiel | upgraded items dont equal automatic crystal though |
| 08:32.50 | nevcairiel | only items that were originally epic do that |
| 08:32.52 | nevcairiel | ie. mythic loot |
| 08:33.16 | Shockah|Work | you can also get chaos crystals from the Nightfallen enchant, right? |
| 08:33.24 | Shockah|Work | i think i got some |
| 08:33.28 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 08:40.08 | VIad | can you buy the epic gear and DE it for crystals? |
| 08:44.50 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/GdqtK64 |
| 08:44.51 | karl_w_w | value |
| 08:47.08 | Primer | 2x [ADDON_ACTION_FORBIDDEN] AddOn 'MasterPlan' tried to call the protected function 'CastItemSpellOnFollowerAbility()'. |
| 08:47.27 | Primer | Happens every time, even after reload and restart |
| 08:47.44 | Freddie | rip |
| 08:52.00 | nevcairiel | doesnt masterplan simply do nothing with the orderhal |
| 08:52.06 | nevcairiel | maybe time to uninstall it |
| 08:52.11 | Primer | that's what I did |
| 09:02.07 | VIad | my masterplan doesn't work on my legion app :/ |
| 09:02.23 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 09:04.15 | Constie | That's curious. http://i.imgur.com/EOfsL6W.gifv |
| 09:05.44 | VIad | I don't see a problem |
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| 09:30.50 | Phixion | neither |
| 09:53.43 | Maldivia | it's a feature :D |
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| 10:24.07 | haste | p3lim: gitter wants read access to private organizations on github :/ |
| 10:31.03 | modernist | does anybody know why changing RaidWBossEmoteFrameSlot1/2 SetFont would lead it to be so pixelated? seems like the typeface itself is changing size but its still being scaled to the default height |
| 10:31.08 | modernist | http://i.cubeupload.com/3BVonJ.png |
| 10:31.35 | p3lim | haste: rainrider suggested we'd use it for communication, don't have to join |
| 10:32.04 | p3lim | just testing how it works now really, haven't decided if we'll use it or not |
| 10:33.02 | p3lim | also, afaik, unless you give direct permission to gitter when authenticating, it'll only know about the existence of private orgs, not the content |
| 10:36.19 | VIad | modernist: are you playing on a potato? |
| 10:36.25 | modernist | yes |
| 10:36.44 | modernist | im surprised it still runs on a mac air tbh |
| 10:36.57 | VIad | I am surprised mac can run a game that uses 3d graphics |
| 10:38.46 | modernist | sometimes it looks fantastic |
| 10:38.50 | modernist | sometimes it looks like butt |
| 10:39.40 | haste | Seems there was a public fork in the organization, which is why it showed up :/ |
| 10:41.03 | haste | I'll check it out when I'm back at a computer |
| 10:43.04 | _Kee | Why I am not suprised that the site with screenshot have redundant "i." subdomain? |
| 10:43.43 | VIad | isn't it just how the game UI handles its internal resizing code? sometimes emotes pop out animation wise and it looks pixelated. like how combat text is if you crit. |
| 10:44.17 | VIad | _Kee: it's probably for direct cdn access to image files |
| 10:44.28 | modernist | well, for one thing â i think that was fixed in 7.0 |
| 10:44.34 | VIad | though it should probably have been made to support direct image access |
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| 10:46.50 | modernist | i dunno if its handled by the game UI. there's some fruity stuff happening here: |
| 10:46.51 | modernist | https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source/blob/beta/FrameXML/RaidWarning.lua#L153 |
| 10:47.09 | modernist | but changing those table values doesn't seem to be having any effect |
| 10:54.51 | modernist | got it, just had to hook this to stop it overriding the text height |
| 10:54.52 | modernist | https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/live/FrameXML/RaidWarning.lua#L79 |
| 11:04.17 | Shockah|Work | is OPie's dev here? |
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| 11:06.26 | Andols | Shockah|Work: That's foxlit |
| 11:07.20 | VIad | windows10 remote desktop improvement: you know how win+tab changes desktops? add remote desktop window in one of those desktops :p |
| 11:07.27 | Seeker` | wow, there's a lot of discussion about how to find the outlaw hidden appearance |
| 11:07.36 | VIad | so I can easier swap between several desktops, including remote desktops |
| 11:10.52 | Shockah|Work | foxlit, basically i just had a little issue - i have a ring specifically made for hunter pets: Dismiss pet with visibility [pet] and Call Pet 1 through 5 with visibility [nopet,nomounted]. if i use a glider with a pet out, OPie still things i have a pet (even though they get dismissed) |
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| 12:35.30 | foxlit | Shockah|Work: which glider? |
| 12:36.49 | Shockah|Work | the tinker one |
| 12:37.42 | Shockah|Work | if it matters, i have the glider bound on OPie too, but on another ring |
| 12:37.58 | Shockah|Work | via a macro with /use [whatever_the_cloak_number_was] |
| 12:41.54 | foxlit | does the thing give you a pet? |
| 12:42.04 | Shockah|Work | no |
| 12:42.35 | Shockah|Work | also... i'm pretty sure it worked yesterday, updated today to... was it Umber 3? |
| 12:43.01 | foxlit | yes, it messes with [pet] |
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| 12:49.02 | VIad | would be nice if ilvl on bodyguards made them better :p |
| 12:49.06 | VIad | like, as bodyguards |
| 12:49.28 | Fisker | tacklehugs Lopeppeppy |
| 12:49.36 | VIad | for example I use a champion that gives me a 3 min cd aoe ability. on a single target it does 500k dmg |
| 12:49.47 | VIad | that is virtually nothing. and the champion is 835 ilvl now and rare |
| 12:50.04 | VIad | would be nice if it scaled a bit up, and not kept static :p |
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| 12:56.25 | nevcairiel | my 3 min cd button does single target like 3 million and aoe the same per target |
| 12:56.33 | nevcairiel | and the aoe he puts on the ground also heals me |
| 12:56.36 | nevcairiel | its super awesome |
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| 13:04.07 | VIad | :/ |
| 13:04.13 | VIad | wtf nevcairiel |
| 13:04.20 | VIad | why is my follower so bad? |
| 13:04.30 | nevcairiel | demon hunters are fail |
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| 13:04.47 | VIad | I am playing tank |
| 13:04.55 | VIad | would like that 3 mil dps to make it a bit quicker to kill big rares |
| 13:05.10 | kullervo | I don't use any followers |
| 13:05.33 | VIad | I only use the ability one, if I have someone running with me, they tend to keep me in combat or go nuts everywhere |
| 13:05.45 | VIad | some horde does some aoe at some quest, my guy wants to murder him |
| 13:05.53 | nevcairiel | permanent followers are annoying, but the ability guiy is useful |
| 13:05.54 | kullervo | kek |
| 13:05.55 | VIad | and runs off chasing horde |
| 13:06.05 | VIad | the ability once are at least controllable |
| 13:06.15 | VIad | but mine doing 500k aoe dmg on a single target is bad |
| 13:06.33 | kullervo | not sure if I should use the paladin's stun+dmg one or the aoe charge |
| 13:06.33 | VIad | I can do aoe myself that is much stronger than my follower, would prefer a good ST follower instead :( |
| 13:09.22 | VIad | tbh I don't see why they can't make them scale % of you and the ilvl on the followers |
| 13:17.05 | Semlar | it should really tell you how much experience a follower is going to get on a mission when it's "below the mission's level" and will earn less |
| 13:21.23 | Seeker` | It's just "less". |
| 13:21.47 | Semlar | yeah but i don't know how much is less |
| 13:22.12 | Semlar | if it's like "nothing" then i would rather just send a troop instead |
| 13:25.26 | Seeker` | I'm sure Blizzard will put TOP MEN on the problem |
| 13:28.11 | nevcairiel | Internal rules like this are never fully documented ingame |
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| 13:32.29 | foxlit | tautologies are tautological. |
| 13:33.47 | Alram | top. |
| 13:33.48 | Alram | men. |
| 13:33.58 | Seeker` | foxlit: lies |
| 13:34.56 | VIad | doing WQ gives like 150 xp to my champion |
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| 13:35.18 | znf | 2 pvp world quests that reward gear |
| 13:35.24 | znf | 2 pieces of warforged |
| 13:35.26 | znf | all the wrong stats :( |
| 13:35.42 | VIad | my worst experience is being at work, seeing a quest expire before I am hope :p |
| 13:35.44 | VIad | home* |
| 13:36.43 | Seeker` | i need to boost my wardens' rep. I think that's gonig to be the thing holding me back from part 1 of pathfinder achievement |
| 13:37.53 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Fiskerling. |
| 13:38.01 | modernist | what do you need to it up to? |
| 13:38.22 | Seeker` | Revered |
| 13:38.44 | znf | what's a pathfinder? |
| 13:38.46 | VIad | I am pretty WQ nolife |
| 13:38.54 | VIad | still a lot of early honored factions on my end |
| 13:38.54 | modernist | meh, right |
| 13:39.02 | VIad | no clue how blizz want casuals to manage it |
| 13:39.07 | Seeker` | znf: The pathfinder achievement gives +mount speed, and is the first step on flying in legion |
| 13:40.02 | nevcairiel | You need the suramar quest line finished as well, that's much more of a blocker then revered everywhere |
| 13:40.18 | Seeker` | I'm already about 5k/21k with Nightfalln |
| 13:40.27 | modernist | i have their rep much higher than the wardens |
| 13:40.27 | Seeker` | I think the next set of quests opens up at 12k |
| 13:41.03 | nevcairiel | But that's more rep required then wardens from honored to revered as a whole |
| 13:41.11 | znf | I don't see the criteria for reputations |
| 13:41.14 | znf | in pathfinder |
| 13:41.23 | Seeker` | znf: There's a diplomat requirement |
| 13:41.31 | modernist | it is, but i'd argue theres more ways to make rep for nightfallen |
| 13:41.33 | Seeker` | nevcairiel: Nightfallen rep is easier to get, it would seem |
| 13:41.35 | znf | of, found it |
| 13:41.36 | znf | yes |
| 13:41.51 | modernist | wardens have, what, the odd world quest and the dungeon? |
| 13:42.17 | znf | I wouldn't sweat it |
| 13:42.38 | nevcairiel | There is like 4 or 5 world quests every day, and usually 150/250 rep ones as well |
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| 13:42.54 | znf | + the emissary one |
| 13:42.56 | znf | which gives 1500 rep |
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| 13:43.04 | znf | at least once a week |
| 13:43.17 | nevcairiel | Next kirin tor you can also pick wardens if you're so worries :) |
| 13:43.22 | modernist | darkheart thicket mythic quest :[ |
| 13:43.24 | znf | ^ |
| 13:43.25 | nevcairiel | worried |
| 13:43.39 | znf | modernist, if it's the artifact one |
| 13:43.40 | znf | don't worry |
| 13:43.49 | nevcairiel | Just have it done before raids |
| 13:44.21 | modernist | oh its the one where the next in the chain is emerald nightmare? |
| 13:45.15 | znf | what does that quest line reward anyway? |
| 13:45.18 | VIad | tbh it's going too quick |
| 13:45.32 | VIad | I just finished all the mythics, like one run, my friends are barely done with their heroics |
| 13:45.41 | VIad | they are casuals, I a bit less |
| 13:45.44 | modernist | i think its a new artifact skin |
| 13:45.48 | VIad | but raids already out so quick |
| 13:47.14 | Seeker` | I need to run arcway again :( |
| 13:47.24 | nevcairiel | Yeah it unlocks the PvE artifact skin |
| 13:47.29 | nevcairiel | The third one |
| 13:47.41 | znf | oh, that's it? not worth it then |
| 13:48.19 | nevcairiel | You just get it while playing anyway, all you do is accept a quest :P |
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| 13:49.46 | znf | yeah, but I don't have to sweat over it |
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| 13:58.42 | znf | Why the fuck is there a tag limit on the pvp captains |
| 13:58.43 | znf | god damn it |
| 13:59.36 | Thunder_Child | You seem to be raging a lot lately znf. |
| 14:00.00 | nevcairiel | he just moved his rage in here instead of #wowace, because thats literally all he does all the time, since always |
| 14:00.04 | znf | !! |
| 14:00.12 | znf | Thunder_Child, new expansion! |
| 14:00.16 | znf | there's lots of shit that bother me |
| 14:00.29 | Thunder_Child | But why are you making it bother us? |
| 14:00.30 | nevcairiel | and most of it is a product of playing on a garbage realm |
| 14:00.45 | znf | same on the other realms |
| 14:00.46 | Phixion | :) |
| 14:00.49 | znf | the group tagging is broken |
| 14:00.57 | znf | someone mentioned that it's supposed to count the group as 1 |
| 14:00.59 | znf | that clearly is not the case |
| 14:01.07 | nevcairiel | no, it counts the number of people in the group |
| 14:01.11 | nevcairiel | otherwise you could cheat it |
| 14:01.39 | znf | I still don't understand why they've put a limit on this specific mobs |
| 14:01.43 | nevcairiel | and on my realm there is not even enough people at the captain to run into that problem, so clearly not a generic problem =p |
| 14:01.54 | mfgmfg | i think you can have 4 individuals tag it then a party of 5 tag it for a total of 9? |
| 14:02.10 | nevcairiel | the real answer is that they havent lifted the limit on them, because there clearly is a default that applies to all |
| 14:02.13 | znf | if the group tags it first... |
| 14:02.32 | modernist | the pvp world qs seem to break tagging particularly badly |
| 14:02.35 | mfgmfg | that's why i said 'then' |
| 14:02.52 | znf | and some of them have a really crappy spawn rate |
| 14:02.57 | znf | like Cordana's Apex in Highmountain |
| 14:03.03 | znf | that place is always a bottleneck on mobs |
| 14:03.32 | znf | I've realm-hopped, that also seems to be the case on other realms |
| 14:03.41 | znf | ...meanwhile, this is the 5th captain I don't get tag |
| 14:07.20 | znf | Ha! |
| 14:07.31 | znf | That's nice. If a miner spawns a basilisk, you can tag it and also get ore |
| 14:08.13 | Ressy | Whats not nice is the fishing... You get a murloc to spawn after 2 minutes after you fish up something.. |
| 14:08.15 | znf | Stanzilla, they seem to have un-nerfed Psyfiend |
| 14:08.28 | Ressy | Someone else can get the rare fish that drops from it if they tag it too.. And you lose out. |
| 14:09.40 | znf | you mean the one you slap? |
| 14:09.44 | znf | and it throws fish on the floor? |
| 14:09.58 | kullervo | znf: basilisks spawn in some areas all the time and drop ore |
| 14:10.20 | Thunder_Child | I thought only if you mine the,. |
| 14:10.22 | Thunder_Child | them* |
| 14:10.30 | nevcairiel | maybe thats how i ended up with a random rare fish one day, i was riding around picking herbs and suddenly had one in my inventory |
| 14:10.34 | kullervo | nah I remember I got my ore for JC quest looting basilisks |
| 14:10.42 | kullervo | because it was going for 1k each on release day |
| 14:10.47 | nevcairiel | didnt even notice what was going on |
| 14:10.58 | znf | I haven't noticed it spawning randomly |
| 14:11.03 | znf | Just when someone mines a node near you |
| 14:11.03 | Ressy | nevcairiel: I got that myself in Dalaran.. Somehow got the achievement for rare fish. |
| 14:11.27 | znf | It could be that they're on a different shard/phase and you don't see them |
| 14:11.31 | znf | (mining, that is) |
| 14:13.13 | kullervo | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=104877/leystone-basilisk |
| 14:14.03 | kullervo | there area areas where they spawn spontaneously |
| 14:14.28 | VIad | about group tagging above, I too remember it explained as group tagging counting as 1 |
| 14:14.37 | VIad | 5 tags, 5 groups could tag it for loot |
| 14:14.46 | znf | kullervo, how can you tell? :) |
| 14:15.04 | kullervo | znf: because it's a thematically appropriate area and there are dozens of them there |
| 14:15.22 | znf | I don't believe they spawn randomly |
| 14:15.29 | znf | It wouldn't make sense |
| 14:15.39 | nevcairiel | i've seen those standing around in some ley areas before |
| 14:16.02 | znf | but can you tell that someone didn't mine that node and didn't kill it? |
| 14:16.11 | znf | There's also a withered that spawns with herbs, for example |
| 14:16.50 | kullervo | no I can't know for sure, but there's a lot of them there all the time |
| 14:17.44 | znf | I've really only seen them whem someone mined a node near me |
| 14:18.26 | foxlit | why do some abilities show a shield icon on nameplate castbars while being clearly interruptable? |
| 14:18.39 | mfgmfg | cache issue? |
| 14:18.46 | Lopeppeppy | Hate. |
| 14:19.40 | znf | 16 minutes, 40 seconds Cooldown |
| 14:19.41 | znf | wtf? |
| 14:19.50 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/RIixLBi.png |
| 14:20.18 | nevcairiel | that happens to be 1000 seconds |
| 14:20.34 | foxlit | mfgmfg: seems unlikely, this install is 3 days old |
| 14:20.47 | mfgmfg | corruption can happen at any time |
| 14:21.18 | foxlit | evil pixies can also decide to invade our universe at any time |
| 14:21.25 | nevcairiel | i've seen that when the class in question doesnt have an itnerrupt, say when i'm on my healer most spells seem to report the shield |
| 14:22.35 | VIad | seems like a random number, let's just put 1000 seconds on here :p |
| 14:23.45 | foxlit | nevcairiel: that seems plausible but bad -- I want to be able to yell at people to interrupt things. |
| 14:24.45 | znf | wish Angry World quest could hide all the resource quests |
| 14:24.53 | VIad | znf: you can filter it |
| 14:25.01 | VIad | shift click to select multiple filters |
| 14:25.05 | znf | Oh, you can shift+click? |
| 14:25.06 | znf | damn |
| 14:25.42 | VIad | but I do miss more filters |
| 14:25.45 | VIad | like faction based once |
| 14:25.50 | VIad | since you get rep per faction |
| 14:25.58 | VIad | some menu and checkboxes would have been nice |
| 14:28.50 | znf | I only care about gear and ap |
| 14:28.56 | Seeker` | I use WorldQuest broker |
| 14:38.30 | Constie | A mission gave me an item that sent me on a quest to do heroic Vault of the Wardens, and I did, and now it says to turn it in in my class hall, but there's no NPC or anything where the question mark on my map is. |
| 14:44.27 | znf | Constie: it's probably on a mission |
| 14:44.45 | znf | When you send them on missions, they actually go |
| 14:45.01 | Constie | Oh, OK. |
| 14:45.19 | znf | Also, slacker |
| 14:45.28 | znf | Getting heroic missions :P |
| 14:46.21 | nevcairiel | my mythic mission was handed in at a permanent npc |
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| 14:47.00 | ls- | damn, ffa pvp on goats in stormheim is fun :D |
| 14:47.37 | Thunder_Child | Sounds like something that is banned in most countries. |
| 14:47.52 | Thunder_Child | Excluding Scotland perhaps. |
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| 14:56.20 | Simca | ls-: a friend ran across a bug with that the other day |
| 14:56.43 | Simca | if you accept a BG queue on a goat and then play out the BG, when you come back you'll still be on the goat |
| 14:56.50 | Simca | but you can then leave without losing the goat |
| 14:57.19 | Simca | he brought it to dalaran and then into skyhold |
| 14:57.37 | Simca | it finally went away when he leaped back down from skyhold |
| 15:01.29 | ls- | wow... goats are omnipotent :p |
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| 16:06.45 | Semlar | stop goat-hacking simca |
| 16:07.29 | Simca | can't help it, i'm a dirty goat-hacker |
| 16:09.35 | znf | Has anyone else noticed that when you join an x-realm group, you are sometimes left on that realm after you leave the group? |
| 16:10.19 | pompy | isnt that usually if you are in combat? |
| 16:10.31 | Simca | yes |
| 16:10.47 | Simca | if you are in combat or casting, the game will wait a while |
| 16:11.23 | znf | I've been on other 2 world quest, 3 flight paths, and been in Shal'aran for 5 minutes |
| 16:11.24 | znf | still here |
| 16:12.47 | Semlar | this is your realm now |
| 16:13.24 | modernist | 330g repair bill |
| 16:13.27 | modernist | thats the stuff |
| 16:31.43 | TheDanW | VIad: probably not - it's just not built to easily support that, but i hope to nuke tooltips and move everything to Lua at some point, no idea when that'll be though |
| 16:32.29 | Fisker | I like Simca |
| 16:34.21 | Simca | speaking of tooltips |
| 16:34.42 | Simca | you should probably update world quest tooltips to support displaying the 500 honor that the pvp world quests reward, TheDanW |
| 16:34.45 | Thunder_Child | That's a bad sign Simca. |
| 16:36.50 | Seeker` | modernist: have you been corpse running in Suramar? |
| 16:38.23 | znf | in the nope-zone? |
| 16:38.25 | znf | ^^ |
| 16:39.21 | modernist | just the worlds worst mythic darkheart mythic |
| 16:39.32 | modernist | er, thicket* |
| 16:39.51 | TheDanW | Simca: that seems reasonable |
| 16:41.43 | Simca | i like to think i have been reasonable once or twice in my life |
| 16:42.00 | modernist | where's the nope zone |
| 16:44.46 | Ressy | Bottom left area. |
| 16:44.48 | Thunder_Child | It would have to be twice. If this was the first time it really wouldn't be past tense. |
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| 16:59.28 | nevcairiel | nah the nope zone is on the right |
| 16:59.39 | nevcairiel | bottom circle, right/east most |
| 17:00.02 | nevcairiel | elites and detectors everywhere |
| 17:01.03 | nevcairiel | (ie. the court of stars exterior) |
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| 17:26.02 | Seeker` | the nope-zone is slightly closer to the center than the vineyards |
| 17:26.16 | Seeker` | if you jump over the wall from the vineyards down to the lower bit, that's a nightmare |
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| 17:39.48 | Infus | TheDanW: so I don't have time to dig into it, but there's something very strange with SetPoint(). I just "fixed" a bug by calling GetBottom() on a frame, without ever using the return value |
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| 17:57.11 | nevcairiel | calling such things can cause the positions to be re-calculated immediately, otherwise it may only happen on the next draw, so if you try to query them right after in other means, that would be expected |
| 17:57.18 | nevcairiel | (positions and sizes) |
| 17:57.26 | TheDanW | Infus: sometimes the anchors are stale, by calling GetRect/Width/height/Bottom/Left/Right/Top it'll force an immediate anchor process |
| 17:58.06 | TheDanW | i fixed several cases of those for 7.0.3 and some more in 7.1, if you have repro i can take a look |
| 17:58.08 | Infus | well, I call GetBottom later, but that returns wrong information, unless i insert taht GetBottom call |
| 17:58.46 | Infus | not really, but good to know that 7.1 should improve that |
| 18:00.06 | TheDanW | it probably thought that the anchor wasn't resolvable, this often occurs when there's a fontstring in the anchor hierarchy since they have their own deferrment system |
| 18:03.03 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: do you know if there is a hotfix/fix planned for this http://i.imgur.com/s3anhJX.png |
| 18:06.36 | TheDanW | first i've heard of it |
| 18:07.15 | TheDanW | what exactly is happening? |
| 18:10.28 | nevcairiel | i have one of those as well, http://i.imgur.com/Ddo7MN2.jpg |
| 18:16.05 | TheDanW | any idea what rep that used to be? |
| 18:17.39 | modernist | bloodsail buccaneers? |
| 18:17.47 | nevcairiel | no clue, its in a weird place in the section, not sure there used to be anything there |
| 18:19.52 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: it showed up when I first encounted that new fishing buddy |
| 18:19.57 | Stanzilla | on the island next to dalaran |
| 18:20.10 | Stanzilla | the name below it |
| 18:20.17 | Stanzilla | maybe he is accidently assigned to two factions |
| 18:20.19 | Stanzilla | and one was deleted? |
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| 18:31.40 | VIad | LOL |
| 18:31.44 | Fisker | Yeah that thing is the worst Stanzilla |
| 18:31.48 | VIad | I always thought it was "nevcariel" ,_, |
| 18:31.52 | VIad | I am sorry, nevcairiel |
| 18:31.58 | Fisker | I remember having collapsed reputations |
| 18:32.00 | Fisker | No more |
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| 18:39.54 | Shockah | foxlit, if it helps with the [pet] issue, the same thing just happened for me but without a glider - a pet was too far away from me because it was attacking some mobs while i ran |
| 18:40.05 | Shockah | and after that the ring was stuck on Dismiss Pet |
| 18:40.09 | foxlit | Shockah: yeah, the glider is unrelated |
| 18:40.46 | foxlit | I just don't cancel the "you have a pet" state correctly, apparently |
| 18:40.47 | Shockah | kk, just trying to provide as much info as possible :) |
| 18:43.27 | foxlit | you can probably work around it now by adding @pet,exists to that conditional |
| 18:43.39 | foxlit | or, er, noexists as it is. |
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| 18:49.49 | Shockah | thanks |
| 18:49.54 | Shockah | seems to be working |
| 18:54.27 | foxlit | (I don't think it's quite the same thing, so you'll probably want to switch it back to nopet once its fixed) |
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| 18:58.25 | znf | The worm area in Azsuna is one of my least favorite |
| 18:58.44 | znf | can't mount, can't use the whistle, the boulder-covering-thingie slows you down, when you run out you pull half the room |
| 18:58.45 | znf | meh |
| 19:01.48 | Primer | one reason I'm enjoying playing a stealth class |
| 19:04.03 | znf | wonder when peta will cry about the Seal clubbing world quest |
| 19:06.36 | Gnarfoz | D.E.H.T.A. you mean |
| 19:07.56 | znf | I actually mean the real peta |
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| 19:18.06 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/e9zEkav.png |
| 19:18.11 | znf | any ideas why the faction is greyed out? |
| 19:23.13 | p3lim | anyone got a list of all map area ids? |
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| 19:26.11 | znf | Semlar, how can I disable clicking friendly nameplates? |
| 19:26.20 | znf | (ie: I still want them to show up, just not be able to click them) |
| 19:27.25 | znf | also, does anyone remember what the constant for the short name of the artifact is? |
| 19:27.32 | znf | I remember it being datamined |
| 19:31.11 | nebula | znf to what end? there are these http://hastebin.com/imikakobom but i don't see anything for a "short name" |
| 19:33.13 | znf | I wanted to get just the part before the comma |
| 19:34.34 | nebula | name:match("(.-),") |
| 19:46.58 | znf | Professions should be called Hobbies. I don't knit or craft gadgets for money. I kill stuff! |
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| 19:53.51 | karl_w_w | today (well, yesterday now) here in australia the government had to filibuster all morning in the senate |
| 19:54.21 | karl_w_w | what incredible reason did they have? they had nothing to do |
| 19:54.26 | karl_w_w | literally nothing |
| 19:54.37 | karl_w_w | no bills to vote on, nothing to debate |
| 19:55.30 | karl_w_w | I didn't think it was possible for politicians to get this close to "literally useless" |
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| 19:57.13 | Thunder_Child | That doesn't parse. |
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| 19:58.10 | karl_w_w | most of the action happens in the house of representatives, if the government isn't passing any bills there, the senate has nothing to consider |
| 19:58.34 | Sharparam | this huge fucking wasp flew in, i catched it in a jar and threw it back out, closed the window and it kept crawling on it trying to get back in |
| 19:58.57 | Sharparam | someone is hiring wasps to assassinate me i'm sure |
| 20:00.48 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: I understand that, but unless there is somre really odd rules, you don't have to filibuster. Actually you never 'have to' do that at all. |
| 20:01.28 | karl_w_w | well they don't have to, they could all just sit there waiting for the time to pass |
| 20:01.58 | karl_w_w | but I'm sure they want to leave and do shit, so they have to talk so the opposition can't sneak something through while they're away |
| 20:02.51 | Thunder_Child | No they don't, they just have to be there, they don't have to talk. Unless a few people stay to do that so the rest can leave. |
| 20:03.10 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 20:03.17 | Sharparam | how can they "sneak something through"? |
| 20:03.33 | karl_w_w | by having more members present because people have left |
| 20:03.50 | Sharparam | they don't require a certain number of representatives present to call votes? |
| 20:03.53 | Sharparam | that seems broken :d |
| 20:03.58 | Thunder_Child | It's only a sneak because it's not on the days docket. |
| 20:04.08 | Thunder_Child | But if there is no line then it is valid. |
| 20:04.44 | karl_w_w | it's sneak because they wouldnt be able to get it through in a full senate :P |
| 20:04.45 | Sharparam | so the sneak part is getting up for vote at all? |
| 20:05.08 | karl_w_w | nobody has majority in the senate because it's proportional |
| 20:05.28 | Ssateneth | Sharparam wanted to thank you again for that combinations page |
| 20:05.31 | Ssateneth | so useful to me :) |
| 20:05.35 | Sharparam | np :P |
| 20:05.57 | Ssateneth | I have another coding challenge |
| 20:06.06 | karl_w_w | for a second there I thought you were talking about yourself in third person, Ssateneth :P |
| 20:06.10 | Ssateneth | (meaning im too stupid or lazy to figure it out) |
| 20:06.42 | Sharparam | what it be |
| 20:07.57 | Ssateneth | Trying to figure out the words to explain |
| 20:07.58 | Ssateneth | Uhhhhhh |
| 20:08.09 | Ssateneth | An ingame something |
| 20:08.27 | Sharparam | ah, i'll get right on that :3 |
| 20:08.37 | Ssateneth | A frame with an editbox that will, in realtime, evaluate the string, and output the results in a box below it |
| 20:08.53 | Ssateneth | So I dont have to spam a macro and spam up my chatbox |
| 20:09.43 | Sharparam | so inputting lua and evaluating it? |
| 20:09.54 | Ssateneth | So if I put UnitHealth("player") in the editbox, it will evaluate it and spit out the return of that function in a box below it, replacing the previous frame's return |
| 20:10.00 | Ssateneth | Pretty much |
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| 20:10.45 | Ssateneth | I'm trying to do some shenanigans with my death knight runes and tellmewhen and I'm having trouble writing the code snippet unless I can see the evaluation in realtime. |
| 20:11.56 | Ssateneth | I use _devpad to run Lua code snippets on demand so being a standalone addon is not a requirement |
| 20:12.29 | Sharparam | seems simple enough |
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| 20:15.01 | Ssateneth | (unless you are using an xml file for the frame's layout or something) |
| 20:19.28 | Sharparam | making the ui stuff is going to be the bulk of the work :P |
| 20:20.07 | Ssateneth | ah, i see i see |
| 20:21.24 | Ssateneth | I'm not terribly concerned about throwing errors if the string to evaluate is not valid (maybe im in the process of typing it, or make a typo) |
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| 20:28.39 | znf | huh. |
| 20:28.46 | znf | Again there's a nightfallen quest that is hidden/bugged |
| 20:34.17 | VIad | thunder totem guiards are pointless |
| 20:34.21 | VIad | they don't do jack shit |
| 20:34.43 | VIad | they do 10k dmg autoattacks, it's miserably inefficient for a "guard" |
| 20:34.43 | Sharparam | well |
| 20:34.49 | Sharparam | for once, it's nice with guards that don't one-hit you? |
| 20:34.51 | VIad | I killed 20 lowbie hordes |
| 20:34.56 | VIad | that tried to quest :p |
| 20:35.00 | VIad | then got bored and bailed |
| 20:37.43 | Ssateneth | so yeah Sharparam |
| 20:37.49 | Ssateneth | up for the challenge? |
| 20:38.00 | Sharparam | i'll give it a go |
| 20:38.06 | Sharparam | in a dungeon atm |
| 20:38.06 | Ssateneth | neeeeeat |
| 20:38.08 | Ssateneth | ah ok ok |
| 20:46.02 | VIad | what challenge? |
| 20:47.55 | Ssateneth | oh just a request for some code stuff |
| 20:57.01 | VIad | Semlar: :p http://ss.bool.no/capture_1473713817.png |
| 21:03.11 | Sharparam | 1x LuaRunner\main.lua:10: ')' expected near 'UIParent' |
| 21:03.16 | Sharparam | this is embarassing |
| 21:04.23 | Sharparam | huzzah |
| 21:04.24 | Sharparam | http://rfl.im/QA |
| 21:04.26 | Sharparam | it's a start |
| 21:05.29 | Thunder_Child | Cuddlehug? I am nauseated just reading that. |
| 21:05.41 | Thunder_Child | s/g?/gs?/ |
| 21:05.57 | Sharparam | we needed a name and couldn't think of one |
| 21:06.23 | Thunder_Child | <we needed a name and couldn't think of one> would have been MUCH better. |
| 21:06.37 | Thunder_Child | Although I assume that is too long. |
| 21:08.18 | Sharparam | :P |
| 21:08.28 | Sharparam | there are already countless guilds with varations on that thing |
| 21:08.33 | Sharparam | variations* |
| 21:14.01 | Sharparam | man i wish WoW editboxes didn't have such aggressive focus |
| 21:14.32 | Sharparam | as soon as there's an editbox *somewhere* on the screen it keeps its focus as if it was the last thing keeping it alive |
| 21:16.02 | Ssateneth | Sharparam its so purdyyyyy |
| 21:16.26 | Sharparam | is there a template that works for multiline editbox? InputBoxTemplate just keeps its single-line appearane |
| 21:16.33 | bshelden | opens edit boxes on Sharparam's UI at random intervals, all overlapping. |
| 21:16.33 | Sharparam | appearance* |
| 21:17.25 | Ssateneth | Also, more class-mechanic related stuff |
| 21:17.31 | Sharparam | hm |
| 21:17.38 | Andols | Sharparam: I found out SetAutoFocus(false), SetMultiLine(true) and SetScript("OnEscapePressed", boxen.ClearFocus) is nice friends to editBoxes :P |
| 21:17.54 | Sharparam | so multiline editboxes do not get a scrollbar on their own... does this mean i have to dive into scrollframe stuff? *shivers* |
| 21:18.06 | Ssateneth | Do the different secondary stats feel more closer in terms of output than before? |
| 21:18.07 | Sharparam | Andols: that looks nice, ty |
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| 21:18.30 | Ssateneth | Or are there outliers where a class gets 2x more benefit with haste than with crit for example |
| 21:19.11 | Andols | That was my thought to, that's why the ingame combinations tool i gave to Ssateneth got a list going doooown |
| 21:19.30 | Ssateneth | yeah i crashed uiparent. Kappa |
| 21:20.08 | Andols | It seems like it can't handle a edit box with 16384 lines :D |
| 21:20.35 | Sharparam | hm |
| 21:20.41 | Sharparam | that looks like MAX_INT16 |
| 21:21.29 | Ssateneth | proven healer! |
| 21:21.35 | Ssateneth | I wear my proven assailant title |
| 21:21.54 | Ssateneth | feels nice |
| 21:22.28 | Sharparam | huh |
| 21:22.41 | Sharparam | calling ClearFocus() does not clear focus, it insteads selects all text inside the editbox |
| 21:22.43 | Sharparam | ._. |
| 21:23.05 | Andols | Try this SetScript("OnEscapePressed", boxen.ClearFocus) |
| 21:23.21 | Andols | boxen was my local name :P |
| 21:24.24 | Sharparam | yes i have it as local function escape(f) f:ClearFocus() end |
| 21:24.29 | Sharparam | then using it on the two boxes |
| 21:24.37 | Sharparam | ah |
| 21:24.58 | Sharparam | it seems if only the output box has autofocus disabled, then clearing the focus will re-focus any editbox with autofocus enabled |
| 21:25.37 | Andols | oh, autofocus is agressive :P |
| 21:25.49 | Sharparam | indeed |
| 21:31.32 | Ssateneth | tranquilize it! |
| 21:43.02 | Tentacle1 | Hmm... So what's with the Taxi Whistle? It doesn't exactly provide tranfer to the NEAREST taxi point, at least not in the conventional meaning of "nearest"... |
| 21:43.27 | Gnarfoz | I find that it does just that |
| 21:43.53 | Tentacle1 | http://puu.sh/r93eB/a81737b9bd.jpg |
| 21:44.36 | Gnarfoz | maybe your addon is off. :P |
| 21:44.43 | Gnarfoz | also, it ignores ones you haven't unlocked |
| 21:45.13 | Tentacle1 | I have listed only the ones I have unlocked. |
| 21:45.54 | Gnarfoz | doesn't matter, really, it's still faster than going to any of them :D |
| 21:46.02 | Tentacle1 | Of course it is. |
| 21:46.03 | Gnarfoz | Stelleris Shakedown has to be the worst world quest, yet |
| 21:47.00 | Tentacle1 | Or, actually, no, it's not faster - it'll take me to Highmountain even if I'm standing 10 yards away from the Dreamgrove point... |
| 21:47.19 | Gnarfoz | Dreamwhat? |
| 21:47.36 | Andols | Druid class hall |
| 21:47.41 | Gnarfoz | ah. |
| 21:47.42 | Gnarfoz | Maybe it doesn't use class-exclusive ones |
| 21:48.03 | Gnarfoz | maybe $TonsOfThings :D |
| 21:48.49 | Ssateneth | rhnkewrjhew |
| 21:48.50 | Ssateneth | no lootz |
| 21:49.05 | Gnarfoz | but since you've already gone through the effort of making a tracking addon for it, maybe you'll end up publishing a paper on the ins and outs of ye olde taxi whistle |
| 21:49.48 | Gnarfoz | is trying to come up with an appropriate publication name, but comes up short |
| 21:51.00 | Seerah | "The Ups and Downs of ........" |
| 21:52.25 | Tentacle1 | "Where do I end up? This'll ... explain the Flight Master Whistle." |
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| 21:53.43 | Andols | "Where do I end up? A deep study in the Flight Master Whistle." ? :) |
| 21:55.18 | Tentacle1 | No longer rhymes. |
| 21:58.22 | Andols2 | True :) |
| 22:05.10 | Sharparam | Ssateneth: http://rfl.im/QT |
| 22:07.21 | Ssateneth | well those are edit boxes! |
| 22:08.11 | Sharparam | now to populate them with fancy output |
| 22:09.24 | modernist | this world quest on the non-instanced eye of azshara is pretty fun |
| 22:09.38 | nevcairiel | pretty boring |
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| 22:09.44 | nevcairiel | unless you had a different one |
| 22:09.52 | nevcairiel | killing 6 nagas and 6 turtles wasnt really exciting |
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| 22:11.21 | modernist | oh i mean on the pvp realm im on |
| 22:11.32 | modernist | its turned into a warzone of sorts |
| 22:11.45 | nebula | how do you get there? just swim? |
| 22:12.17 | modernist | i ran on my water mount from broken shore and only just about beat the fatigue |
| 22:12.30 | nevcairiel | or glide from dalaran |
| 22:15.07 | Gnarfoz | goblin glider everywhere all the time |
| 22:15.13 | nebula | pretty much |
| 22:15.32 | Gnarfoz | combine with emerald winds for almost ridiculuous distance |
| 22:16.08 | nevcairiel | the two minute timer is kinda annoying, although if you chain them instead of using them a tthe same time can probably get out more |
| 22:16.15 | Gnarfoz | (unless either of them says "You can't do that right now" for no obvious reason at all) |
| 22:17.24 | Tentacle1 | Gnarfoz: as for your notion that maybe |
| 22:17.51 | Tentacle1 | the Whistle doesn't use class-specific taxis - nope. From inside right inside Dreamgrove, I get booted to Felbane Camp in Highmountain. From right OUTSIDE Dreamgrove I get whistled to Dreamgrove proper... |
| 22:18.15 | Tentacle1 | Verdict: the Whistle is bonkers. |
| 22:18.32 | Shockah | what do you mean it doesn't use class-specific taxis |
| 22:18.40 | Shockah | it definitely does |
| 22:18.50 | nevcairiel | the whistle drops me in dreamgrove all the time |
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| 22:18.58 | Tentacle1 | I suspected that, when it whistled me to Felbane Camp when I was standing right next to the Dreamgrove taxi. |
| 22:18.59 | Shockah | hunters get the special flight points with eagles |
| 22:19.07 | Shockah | if they research it |
| 22:19.11 | Shockah | and it's super annoying with the whistle |
| 22:19.24 | nevcairiel | but why would i use it from inside the dreamgrove anyway :D |
| 22:19.44 | Tentacle1 | And I never got whistled to the Dreamgrove taxi when inside Dreamgrove. I only did get whistled there... when I LEFT it. |
| 22:19.50 | Tentacle1 | Hence, so much for "closest". |
| 22:19.53 | Shockah | i may actually switch this research after done i'm done with everything else |
| 22:20.32 | Shockah | but sometimes it's just so good... |
| 22:20.40 | Shockah | all the eagle points are super high |
| 22:20.48 | Shockah | so great with glider + emerald winds |
| 22:21.13 | Tentacle1 | Those two combined just sound... wrong. |
| 22:24.53 | Ssateneth | Sharparam, extra brownie points if I can have multiple evaluation boxes open. Should probably handle multiple returns too if I'm evaluating a function with multiple returns, or if something returns a table (tables in tables?) |
| 22:25.43 | Sharparam | Ssateneth: http://rfl.im/QW |
| 22:26.26 | Ssateneth | Oh thats purdy |
| 22:26.49 | Sharparam | i wonder if i can "borrow" the function /dump uses to format its output |
| 22:26.50 | Ssateneth | I almost want to say its using whatever /dump uses |
| 22:26.53 | Ssateneth | WHOA |
| 22:26.55 | Ssateneth | JINX |
| 22:26.57 | Sharparam | :P |
| 22:27.06 | Sharparam | it's not parsing tables atm, like dump does |
| 22:27.45 | foxlit | _G[next(_G)]=nil |
| 22:27.45 | Sharparam | anyone know if whatever function dump uses to format is exposed? |
| 22:28.51 | Ssateneth | http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Blizzard_DebugTools |
| 22:28.58 | Ssateneth | oh that doesnt help |
| 22:29.01 | Ssateneth | uhhhhhh |
| 22:29.03 | foxlit | (hm, I suppose you'd need tremove(_G, next(_G)) to make return work) |
| 22:29.05 | Sharparam | yeah i'm on that page atm :P |
| 22:29.40 | nebula | DevTools_Dump |
| 22:30.34 | Tentacle1 | I wonder how that would look combined with my Spoo. |
| 22:30.40 | Ssateneth | https://github.com/tomrus88/BlizzardInterfaceCode/blob/master/Interface/AddOns/Blizzard_DebugTools/Dump.lua |
| 22:31.18 | Ssateneth | hot steamy dump |
| 22:35.21 | Tentacle1 | eew. |
| 22:35.25 | Sharparam | huh |
| 22:35.27 | Sharparam | "attempt to call global 'DevTools_Dump' (a nil value)" |
| 22:35.32 | Sharparam | but running from chat works fine |
| 22:35.51 | nebula | did you local it before the addon was loaded or something? |
| 22:36.11 | Sharparam | nope, i have nothing called DevTools_Dump in it except the call to it |
| 22:36.31 | nebula | Blizzard_DebugTools is lod, the slash loads it |
| 22:36.51 | Sharparam | ah |
| 22:37.00 | Ssateneth | so /dump foo |
| 22:37.10 | Ssateneth | then its loaded in global space? |
| 22:37.47 | Ssateneth | heh /dump DevTools_Dump() |
| 22:38.02 | Ssateneth | gotta find a way to crash client with this |
| 22:38.05 | Ssateneth | recursionnnnnn |
| 22:38.52 | Sharparam | hm |
| 22:38.59 | Sharparam | DevTools_Dump simply outputs to chatframe |
| 22:39.51 | Sharparam | interesting |
| 22:40.11 | Sharparam | DevTools_RunDump is also global and takes a "context" object where you can specify a write target and stuff |
| 22:40.57 | nebula | well, it dumps to DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME, you can make your own sink with an AddMessage method and point DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME at it |
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| 22:45.25 | Sharparam | but aren't you redirecting everything then |
| 22:50.02 | nebula | you do, it's insanely old code, predating DebugTools, so it looks like just using your own context would be easier |
| 22:50.08 | nebula | :p |
| 22:50.40 | Sharparam | a shame these Pick_Cache_Function things are locale |
| 22:50.41 | Sharparam | local* |
| 22:51.24 | Ssateneth | urgggghhh |
| 22:51.28 | Ssateneth | so lazy to cook |
| 22:51.36 | Ssateneth | ramen + bologna chunks :( |
| 22:52.25 | Sharparam | :P |
| 22:52.39 | Sharparam | i made rice and chicken :D (though tbf the chicken was pre-cooked :P) |
| 22:54.12 | Sharparam | Ssateneth: http://rfl.im/Qg |
| 22:56.52 | Ssateneth | ooo |
| 22:57.39 | Ssateneth | I was going to say that unithealth one didnt work |
| 22:57.47 | Ssateneth | but realized table sorting and stuff |
| 22:57.53 | Sharparam | :P |
| 22:58.50 | Ssateneth | makes grabby hands |
| 23:01.02 | Sharparam | https://github.com/SharpWoW/LuaRunner/blob/master/main.lua |
| 23:01.15 | Sharparam | 'tis what i ended up with |
| 23:02.23 | Ssateneth | method 'upper' is nil, line 109 |
| 23:02.50 | Sharparam | it has to be run as an addon for the "local NAME, T = ..." at top to work |
| 23:02.59 | Ssateneth | i see i see |
| 23:03.03 | Sharparam | though NAME is only used for setting up slash commands and T i ended up not using at all |
| 23:03.14 | Sharparam | so it could be made to work as a standalone script really |
| 23:03.54 | Sharparam | you can download as zip (https://github.com/SharpWoW/LuaRunner/archive/master.zip) and extract to addons (make sure to rename the folder to "LuaRunner" since github names based on the branch name) |
| 23:04.06 | Ssateneth | testing and junk |
| 23:04.09 | Ssateneth | yeah i saw the zup |
| 23:04.10 | Ssateneth | and rename |
| 23:04.27 | Ssateneth | zip* |
| 23:05.32 | Ssateneth | alrighty then, time to go to a DPS dummy... |
| 23:06.45 | Sharparam | oh man look at the time, i should go sleep |
| 23:07.22 | Sharparam | Ssateneth: just create issues on that repo if you think of stuff :P i might flesh this out more tomorrow (and wednesday is day off \o/) |
| 23:07.53 | Ssateneth | waaaaaait |
| 23:07.56 | Ssateneth | Bug! |
| 23:08.18 | Ssateneth | Seems it only evaluates when typing what to evaluate |
| 23:08.27 | Sharparam | not when pasting? |
| 23:08.34 | Ssateneth | Sorry if I didnt give you enough info |
| 23:08.46 | Ssateneth | I wanted it to update in realtime |
| 23:08.52 | Sharparam | oh you mean updating regularly? |
| 23:08.55 | Sharparam | ah |
| 23:08.59 | Ssateneth | yeah |
| 23:09.22 | Ssateneth | Sorry xD |
| 23:09.42 | Ssateneth | Otherwise I'd spam a /dump with a macro while doing things |
| 23:10.32 | Ssateneth | got off Wed here too, but probably will vegetate |
| 23:12.18 | foxlit | someone should just fire all the suramar disguise-detecting guards and replace them with moths |
| 23:12.27 | Mr_Rabies | geez, they really need to reduce the ingame day to 6 hours or so |
| 23:12.28 | nebula | would be way more effective |
| 23:12.29 | Ssateneth | You live over in europe then Sharparam? |
| 23:12.40 | Mr_Rabies | legion zones look beautiful during the day |
| 23:12.43 | Sharparam | yep, in the glorious land of sweden |
| 23:12.44 | Mr_Rabies | but i never get to see them :( |
| 23:14.03 | Ssateneth | "Initial broker suport. WARNING: Code crashes client, use with care." |
| 23:14.08 | Ssateneth | haha |
| 23:14.46 | mckenziemc | sounds like they have very good broke-r support |
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| 23:17.15 | Ssateneth | but yeah, was wondering why my Runes() and NextRuneRemaining() functions' returns weren't updating. |
| 23:21.19 | Ssateneth | i might be able to .. ahem, mangle your addon code to run OnUpdate |
| 23:21.53 | Sharparam | Ssateneth: http://rfl.im/Q6 |
| 23:22.34 | Ssateneth | yaeh i replaced OnTextChanged to OnUpdate |
| 23:22.40 | Ssateneth | Is that too dirty? |
| 23:22.46 | Ssateneth | Seems to get the intended result |
| 23:22.47 | Sharparam | OnUpdate runs it every frame, so that may be a bit heavy |
| 23:23.04 | Ssateneth | Possibly |
| 23:23.18 | Ssateneth | I'm trying to catch a scenario that only occurs for a fraction of a second |
| 23:24.19 | Sharparam | i pushed a commit that updates it every 0.1 sec |
| 23:26.03 | Ssateneth | nifty, yoink |
| 23:26.07 | Ssateneth | Go to bed :D |
| 23:26.31 | Sharparam | fine :P |
| 23:32.58 | Ssateneth | Aaaand your addon made me realize I'm attacking my problem the wrong way |
| 23:33.53 | Ssateneth | Playing a frost death knight with frozen pulse, which means you want to be at zero runes as much as possible |
| 23:34.46 | Ssateneth | And I wanted something to alert me if I should wait a fraction of a second longer for runes to recharge if Obliterate, a 2 rune spender, will be ready almost immediately after howling blast, a 1 rune spender. |
| 23:37.20 | Ssateneth | ahaaaaa got what I needed! Thank you LuaRunner! |
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| 23:39.36 | LexSfX | best satchel scanner addon? |
| 23:40.00 | LexSfX | i'm a healer and realized you can get 700g-800g per satchel :D |
| 23:54.19 | Mr_Rabies | do world quests scale up in realtime with your gear or do they snapshot your ilvl at the time they become available? |
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| 23:56.56 | Stanzilla | http://www.diablofans.com/blizz-tracker/topic/62917-a-message-from-chris-metzen |
| 23:56.57 | Stanzilla | no |
| 23:56.58 | Stanzilla | fucking |
| 23:56.59 | Stanzilla | way |
| 23:59.31 | ls- | wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut? O_O |
| 23:59.46 | ls- | forum doomsayers inc! |
