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| 00:58.54 | foxlit | heh, Aluneth animations are just bad. |
| 00:59.16 | foxlit | it looks like you hit your head with the staff multiple times while casting |
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| 01:22.33 | cralor | Hey all. Scratching my head on this one. UIDROPDOWNMENU_OPEN_MENU is returning nil despite having a dropdown created and opened, and then attempting to pull the current frame on menu click. |
| 01:23.18 | znf | oh yes, blizzard hotfixed all the fun out of items |
| 01:25.37 | foxlit | cralor: stop scratching your head, that's just how it works now. |
| 01:26.00 | cralor | Good to know. What's the alternative? |
| 01:26.19 | kd3 | more alcoholic beverages |
| 01:26.46 | cralor | Always a fair option. |
| 01:27.10 | znf | the "Item" section should just be titled "we have removed all fun from these items: x, y, z" |
| 01:32.29 | Ssateneth | woooooooooooow |
| 01:32.41 | Ssateneth | they nerfed the one thing remotely close to flying into uselessness |
| 01:32.44 | Ssateneth | im unsubbing |
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| 01:44.00 | Gnarfoz | good bye |
| 01:48.55 | znf | wee Stanzilla http://i.imgur.com/HVlVWuT.png |
| 01:49.46 | Gnarfoz | "Fixed a bug that could cause players, who were simultaneously both very lucky and very unlucky, to receive the same legendary item more than once." imagine being that person |
| 01:51.01 | znf | dunno, I'm still the unlucky one |
| 01:51.03 | znf | most of us are |
| 01:51.28 | znf | but no worries |
| 01:51.34 | znf | tomorow Stanzilla gets a legendary |
| 01:51.39 | znf | and we'll hate him even more |
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| 01:59.50 | karl_w_w | something in my house smells concerning but I don't know what |
| 02:00.03 | karl_w_w | smells like an electric motor |
| 02:01.38 | Stanzilla | znf: I know someone who already has 2 |
| 02:01.42 | Stanzilla | and nice, gz! |
| 02:01.51 | znf | 2 of the same? |
| 02:01.55 | Stanzilla | no |
| 02:02.22 | znf | ... |
| 02:02.24 | znf | fuck him, then |
| 02:02.45 | Stanzilla | I don't understand jellyhate |
| 02:03.00 | foxlit | znf has just been uninvited from every party ever. "No legendarires? Scram!" |
| 02:04.59 | znf | I'm fully expecting groups to require legendaries in the very near future |
| 02:05.58 | foxlit | it'll be a very useful idiot-leader filter. |
| 02:06.34 | znf | if it only worked like that... |
| 02:07.17 | znf | I'm just not lucky with drops... I'll probably never get an actual legendary by drops unless they introduce some "bad luck protection" |
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| 02:20.28 | karl_w_w | I really wonder about spam email |
| 02:20.55 | karl_w_w | who is sending this stuff? do they not look at it first and say "is this OBVIOUSLY spam?" |
| 02:21.30 | kd3 | of course. they want to weed out the semi-intelligent folks |
| 02:21.32 | FireSiku | Guess who's the lucky one that got a whisper telling them they won a legion beta key? I only have to log in to this completely legit .pw website. |
| 02:22.11 | karl_w_w | I won a beta key once |
| 02:22.19 | karl_w_w | but it was for dota 2 and it was real |
| 02:22.42 | karl_w_w | that was the first time I ever won something |
| 02:22.54 | cralor | You'd be surprised how difficult it is to educate businesses to send to engaged email recipients, for email deliverability (and recipients) sake. |
| 02:23.10 | karl_w_w | funny how I never fell for spam before that telling me I won something, I must be a savant |
| 02:23.28 | FireSiku | First thing i won was closed beta League of Legend key. |
| 02:24.45 | Thunder_Child | "[19:23:23] [Y] <Away>[Landmine]: [Orcish] NO A N A L" Well I'm glad someone had the time on their hands to figure out the important messages. |
| 02:25.12 | mckenziemc | or copy them |
| 02:26.18 | mckenziemc | you lo se, Thunder_Child |
| 02:28.09 | karl_w_w | somebody had to do it, mckenziemc |
| 02:35.42 | Thunder_Child | So are hunters and warriors the only ones that don't have a tp or portal (or not in dal) to get to their order hall? |
| 02:36.17 | Trela | Rogues use a door. :O |
| 02:36.32 | Stanzilla | wow back to crashing every time I switch characters :< |
| 02:37.24 | Thunder_Child | Yes, backdoor rogues. |
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| 02:38.49 | Mr_Rabies | Stanzilla, the cache corruption is real right now :( |
| 02:39.43 | mckenziemc | again? |
| 02:40.18 | Stanzilla | yeah |
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| 02:53.00 | Simca_ | https://db.tt/m5zXynZ5 classic |
| 02:53.39 | Simca_ | including what i was doing: https://db.tt/aj5uCHmV |
| 02:54.44 | mckenziemc | did you give a proper eviction notice? |
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| 03:31.07 | Gethe_ | Cairenn: https://twitter.com/Tsudbury/status/772922445162508289 |
| 03:31.35 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 03:31.44 | Gethe_ | <3 |
| 03:53.12 | karl_w_w | lul |
| 04:02.51 | kd3 | whee. nearly done consuming all the food in my fridge/freezer |
| 04:02.55 | kd3 | ~27 hours til I fly to japan! |
| 04:04.16 | Cairenn | Whooo! Safe trip, have fun! |
| 04:04.47 | mckenziemc | fattening yourself up? |
| 04:05.25 | Mr_Rabies | i wish i could afford to travel :< |
| 04:05.28 | kd3 | meh, more like using the trip as an excuse to eat the stuff I've had in the freezer for months. going to be gone for two weeks, unplugging everything |
| 04:05.30 | Mr_Rabies | i'd love to visit japan for a bit |
| 04:06.22 | mckenziemc | i'm sure you could've found somebody in need of food |
| 04:06.43 | Mr_Rabies | sounds like kd3's in need of food |
| 04:07.16 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 04:07.26 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 04:07.38 | kd3 | eh, anything that's not getting eaten tonight is getting donated. still, not a fan of throwing stuff away, even if it's going to a good cause |
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| 04:54.20 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/fewyn/status/773383377424482305 |
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| 04:59.49 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/fewyn/status/773385193574895616 |
| 04:59.52 | fewyn | mammoth train |
| 04:59.55 | fewyn | is best train |
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| 05:48.02 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/xGS8f |
| 05:51.14 | NuSuey | damn..should play on higher populated realms I guess :o |
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| 06:19.54 | Primer | Is it not possible to add enemy buffs to Kuinameplates? |
| 06:20.15 | Primer | I'm trying to add the stealth detection buff as a nameplate icon, but failing miserably |
| 06:20.59 | Primer | I'm having to turn nameplates off in Suramar to see the stealth detection icon above the guards |
| 06:31.00 | karl_w_w | http://www.news.com.au/finance/small-business/close-shave-with-human-rights-commission-for-menonly-barber-store/news-story/96b3dfab677fee8c5c4a3bbca4eebabb |
| 06:31.05 | karl_w_w | people just need to stop |
| 06:34.29 | Trela | There is a local male only "barber" shop, but run by all women. It just felt really awkward to be there. O_o Like it was trying to be a Hooters of hair cuts. |
| 06:37.01 | Corrodias | that's a surprisingly well-considered response from the business owners |
| 06:39.05 | Corrodias | although i don't understand how they could offer services to trans-men if they're trying to keep their clients comfortable regarding insecurities. their presence will make some of those folks uncomfortable. |
| 06:41.08 | Corrodias | i suppose banning them wouldn't make much sense either, given that mission, so there has to be a bit of compromise somewhere. |
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| 06:55.17 | Primer | Just can't figure this out |
| 06:55.33 | Primer | Kesava, is this possible? To track enemy buffs in Kuinameplates? |
| 06:55.46 | Kesava | Primer: yes |
| 06:55.58 | Primer | If you could throw me a bone? |
| 06:56.01 | mikma | eeeh. what the fuck is wrong with the people. the business wants only male customers. so maybe try respecting their policy and do not enter and get yourself offended |
| 06:56.07 | Primer | I've install KuiSpellList |
| 06:56.22 | Kesava | the auras frame in _core only tracks your own buffs |
| 06:56.24 | Kesava | auras* |
| 06:56.28 | Kesava | you'd have to make another frame. |
| 06:56.35 | Primer | uhhh |
| 06:56.44 | Primer | I didn't mean "change the addon code" |
| 06:56.53 | Primer | I meant "do this from the config" |
| 06:56.59 | Kesava | ok, |
| 06:57.00 | Kesava | Primer: no |
| 06:58.14 | mikma | karl_w_w: sometimes there would be a big job for a madman with a shotgun |
| 06:58.49 | Primer | FYI, the reason I want this is because I'm constantly toggling name plates off in Suramar while disguised, as the nameplates obscure the stealth detection icon above the heads of mobs with the Detector buff |
| 06:59.32 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:59.48 | nevcairiel | a build-in widget on KNP to show that would be neat |
| 06:59.49 | Primer | Well, they have a buff |
| 07:00.05 | nevcairiel | i was thinking more generic then that :d |
| 07:00.12 | Primer | At least the mobs in Suramar do |
| 07:03.04 | Kesava | indeed, i don't think there is an api for it |
| 07:04.30 | Primer | There's always the mob buff... |
| 07:04.42 | Kesava | yes but that's a very specific case. |
| 07:05.02 | Kesava | .. and one that's most relevant now |
| 07:05.05 | Primer | meh, I've never need this before, so I never noticed if there was a buff |
| 07:05.14 | Kesava | but i don't personally have this problem. i can see the eye just fine |
| 07:05.45 | Kesava | therefore any contrary report is invalid /s |
| 07:06.25 | Primer | contrary report... |
| 07:07.01 | Primer | This wasn't a "report". All I asked was if I could track enemy buffs on a nameplate. |
| 07:07.57 | Kesava | it was a joke |
| 07:09.08 | Kesava | hence /s |
| 07:10.09 | Primer | sorry, not familiar with /s |
| 07:15.47 | Kesava | Primer: are you not a lua person? it's very simple to add another aura frame if you particularly want to do this |
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| 07:17.04 | Primer | I have a few addons, but I didn't want to take on a project just to get this going |
| 07:22.59 | Constie | I haven't had issues seeing the stealth detection icon because of KuiNamePlates. |
| 07:23.06 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.20 | Primer | They're behind the plates |
| 07:23.27 | nebula | i definitely have |
| 07:23.27 | Primer | So unless I can set the plate strata... |
| 07:23.42 | Primer | granted, I prefer tall plates |
| 07:23.55 | Kesava | i blame blizzard |
| 07:23.55 | Primer | not the skinny shit they implemented, hence my use of an addon for that |
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| 07:24.04 | nebula | i wonder when in beta they turned off the detection circle on the ground, guess that was just too easy |
| 07:24.13 | Constie | Oh, yeah, I think I have the bars pretty thin. |
| 07:28.20 | nebula | with the class order hall upgrades, is the tier 4 15% extra success when you don't counter a hazard or does the mission just need one? i'm torn on which to pick |
| 07:30.26 | Kesava | Primer: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/kesava-wow/c4166a499db15f1810ff94a9878be767/raw/cdc3f07e5a79e8e4c03086800ce3efc3e1fd6fdc/gistfile1.txt |
| 07:30.41 | Kesava | add that to Kui_Nameplates_Core/create.lua, in the function core:CreateAuras |
| 07:31.00 | Kesava | and you'll have a.. slightly broken aura frame because i only expect there to be one |
| 07:31.06 | Kesava | but you know. |
| 07:32.12 | Primer | thanks |
| 07:36.21 | Primer | nope |
| 07:36.39 | Gnarfoz | https://haste.smb.wtf/iduqozewuzuzofocajawinisofater o_O |
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| 07:37.58 | Primer | So...allow me to present the issue in a different light |
| 07:38.23 | Primer | Imagine you're panning around and the nameplate is now visible but the mob is not |
| 07:38.31 | Primer | s/now// |
| 07:39.03 | Primer | like, when rounding a corner |
| 07:39.20 | Primer | The nameplate is visible, but the mob is not |
| 07:41.33 | Kesava | .. yeees |
| 07:43.01 | Shockah|Work | Primer, if i'm not mistaken, the stealth detection thing is rendered in the 3D world |
| 07:43.09 | Shockah|Work | not on top of it in the 2D interface space |
| 07:43.17 | Primer | It is not |
| 07:43.25 | Primer | err |
| 07:43.31 | Primer | I thought you meant the opposite |
| 07:43.32 | Shockah|Work | and if that's the case, you can't have the nameplate behind it |
| 07:43.36 | Primer | yes, it is in the 3D world |
| 07:43.42 | Primer | That wasn't the goal |
| 07:43.49 | Primer | The goal was to display the enemy buff on the nameplate |
| 07:43.54 | Shockah|Work | okay move on then |
| 07:48.10 | Primer | moving on |
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| 07:48.47 | Primer | oh wow |
| 07:48.51 | Primer | So there's more than one buff |
| 07:49.01 | Primer | This demon has a buff named Demonic Vision |
| 07:50.50 | Kesava | a |
| 07:50.51 | Kesava | ah* |
| 07:51.17 | Kesava | am i to assume it works with the others then |
| 07:52.37 | Primer | Well, I'll have to go back there |
| 07:53.59 | nevcairiel | the demonds are the only ones you need to watch out for anyway, the others detect so slowly that you can ride through them =p |
| 07:54.45 | nevcairiel | -d |
| 07:55.24 | Kesava | updated the same gist with both ids |
| 07:55.57 | Kesava | this would be a pretty tiny external mod |
| 07:56.47 | Kesava | those nightborne children need to stop singing that |
| 08:00.06 | Primer | tell me about it |
| 08:02.01 | Primer | The gist looks the same, btw |
| 08:02.07 | Primer | only one spell id |
| 08:02.18 | Shockah|Work | Primer, https://gist.githubusercontent.com/kesava-wow/c4166a499db15f1810ff94a9878be767/raw/cdc3f07e5a79e8e4c03086800ce3efc3e1fd6fdc/ |
| 08:02.38 | Kesava | yeah well, i just wanted to make sure it worked properly. |
| 08:02.42 | Primer | Anyhow, it doesn't work for Detector |
| 08:02.49 | Kesava | ... does for me |
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| 08:03.28 | Kesava | oh that still links to the previous version |
| 08:03.34 | Kesava | yeah Shockah|Work's link is the right one. |
| 08:05.02 | Primer | There we go |
| 08:06.58 | Primer | I moved it a bit |
| 08:07.58 | Kesava | yeees the position will be a bit odd because as i said i'm only expecting one frame, so it gets overridden a bit |
| 08:08.15 | Kesava | ~however~ i just fixed that upstream so yes |
| 08:10.04 | Kesava | i hope they turn down the phasing on order halls again, i preferred it a bit more quiet. |
| 08:11.08 | Kesava | although maybe it just feels more crowded for priests since we just have a large open hall. |
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| 08:24.41 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how I would encounter this issue... apart from "looking around corners by way of nameplates that already display but the mob doesn't" I have had no trouble seeing the true sight symbol oO |
| 08:25.06 | Gnarfoz | did you move your nameplates higher/make them bigger at all? very low screen res, zoom level, something? :o |
| 08:25.31 | Primer | It happens |
| 08:25.34 | Primer | Enough said |
| 08:26.19 | nevcairiel | way to be helpful |
| 08:27.25 | Kesava | xhe's already said xhe has a larger frame size |
| 08:27.59 | Kesava | so indeed it becomes an issue, they render right in the middle when you get a certain distance from them (or something) |
| 08:28.49 | VIad | weakauras should have an option to attach itself to the player nameplate :p |
| 08:29.06 | VIad | and an option to even turn off the buff thing if you wish to recreate it using weakauras |
| 08:29.08 | VIad | just an idea |
| 08:29.29 | VIad | since the player nameplate moves a bit based on camera distance, weakauras can overlap it |
| 08:29.41 | Primer | I've wanted the ability to attach WA groups to arbitrary frames |
| 08:29.57 | VIad | it would be cool |
| 08:30.01 | VIad | basic anchoring right? |
| 08:30.29 | VIad | would have to code in frame detection. could probably limit it by like, global scope names |
| 08:30.31 | Primer | unit frames, specifically |
| 08:30.39 | VIad | player nameplate is tricky though |
| 08:30.43 | VIad | since its reusable :/ |
| 08:30.55 | Kesava | i'm pretty sure you can do that |
| 08:30.55 | VIad | would need its own entire code just for that |
| 08:31.11 | VIad | but WA couldn't just store a global name as string on the widget |
| 08:31.24 | VIad | like "nameplate2" :p |
| 08:31.28 | Kesava | i've even been given examples to test it on |
| 08:31.40 | Kesava | my nameplates have a static frame for the personal plate, as do the default nameplates |
| 08:31.52 | VIad | I am talking about the default nameplates though |
| 08:32.01 | Kesava | riiiight, that has a static name for it |
| 08:32.09 | Kesava | so you don't need to worry about it being reused |
| 08:32.17 | VIad | hmm ah right |
| 08:32.22 | Kesava | (i don't know what it is off the top of my head but it exists) |
| 08:32.23 | VIad | I was thinking of something else |
| 08:32.38 | VIad | but WA could use anchoring feature :p |
| 08:32.51 | tz | oh god yes |
| 08:33.24 | VIad | I will also have to look into the nameplates, if you can make the player one fixed |
| 08:33.30 | VIad | some people probably want it NOT to move around >_> |
| 08:33.39 | Shockah|Work | and groups within groups, and groups reacting to custom trigger state code |
| 08:33.43 | nevcairiel | you cant really change nameplate motion |
| 08:33.54 | VIad | even player one? :/ |
| 08:34.03 | nevcairiel | its a normal nameplate |
| 08:34.15 | VIad | feels like you should have a checkbox to lock it under you so it doesnt jump around |
| 08:34.18 | Shockah|Work | just disable it and create your own thing that looks the same but is static |
| 08:34.22 | VIad | sure |
| 08:34.25 | Shockah|Work | well, "just" |
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| 08:41.27 | Primer | Seems nameplates are showing all buffs |
| 08:42.12 | VIad | sure you can disable and make your own, but also nice to think of the default UI customization abilities :p |
| 08:42.35 | VIad | kind of shame if you have to totally disable everything nameplate just to reimplement the same code and change one tiny thing |
| 08:59.23 | Shockah|Work | they should have just made it a separate thin |
| 08:59.24 | Shockah|Work | g |
| 08:59.26 | Shockah|Work | not a nameplate |
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| 09:09.38 | nevcairiel | personally i like how it moves out of the way if you zoom into your char etc |
| 09:10.31 | Gnarfoz | wow, failing a mission actually subtracts follower xp :D |
| 09:10.54 | VIad | that doesn't sound like how experience works :P |
| 09:11.21 | VIad | failing is a learning experience on its own, shouldnt substract experience :p |
| 09:11.22 | Shockah|Work | Gnarfoz, ...really? |
| 09:11.42 | Gnarfoz | Shockah|Work:Â either that, or the app is doing weird things displaying failed missions. |
| 09:15.02 | Shockah|Work | i only ever sent one non-100% mission anyway |
| 09:15.12 | Shockah|Work | unlike garrison ones, which i sent a ton |
| 09:18.07 | VIad | unlike garrison, these missions are more player friendly |
| 09:18.22 | VIad | no more micromanaging gold farming 247 |
| 09:18.25 | Shockah|Work | agreed |
| 09:18.30 | VIad | but one sad thing is I have to disable champions |
| 09:18.35 | VIad | I really wish I didn't have to |
| 09:18.37 | VIad | >_> |
| 09:18.58 | VIad | "sorry but I need to disable you because I already have someone that has your abilities" |
| 09:19.02 | Gnarfoz | micromanaging? you mean "using MasterPlan" |
| 09:19.02 | Shockah|Work | would be cool if the legendary limit research also upped the follower limit |
| 09:20.58 | VIad | it feels wrong to disable like 3 out of a total of 8 followers :P |
| 09:21.00 | VIad | because limit is 5 |
| 09:57.15 | znf | foxlit: http://i.imgur.com/S77DEDA.png vs http://i.imgur.com/vwinTWX.png ?? |
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| 10:22.48 | Semlar | adding that is removing whatever that hands buff is from mariella ward |
| 10:51.51 | karl_w_w | jeez semlar don't make fun of jerry espensen |
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| 11:04.04 | mfgmfg | hmmm |
| 11:04.16 | mfgmfg | did they do something to the AH scanning speed? getting 2 pages per second when searching |
| 11:05.05 | mfgmfg | sometimes 5 |
| 11:05.14 | mfgmfg | way faster |
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| 11:18.05 | Constie | Hands buff is Focused Will, which increases success chance on longer missions. |
| 11:19.58 | Semlar | gotta go slow! |
| 11:27.43 | VIad | my hotfix became hotfox >_> |
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| 11:32.52 | bluipodcow | Glad thinks he's a hot fox now |
| 11:51.01 | Gnarfoz | Sometimes I wish I had a horde of Twitter followers so my complaintweets wouldn't feel as much like shouting into an empty concert hall |
| 11:52.07 | VIad | I can't even connect to twitter, I only get a black screen ingame :p |
| 11:52.28 | VIad | after trying too much twitter sent me an email about suspicious access to my account though |
| 11:53.30 | Gnarfoz | wasn't talking about the twitter integration with the game |
| 11:53.41 | Gnarfoz | (which works fine for me, btw. have you tried turning it off and on again?) |
| 11:53.53 | VIad | thats what I tried |
| 11:54.08 | VIad | I wanted to remove my existing one, and add a new account specific for wow screenshot sharing :p |
| 11:54.13 | VIad | or whatever I wanted to share |
| 11:54.28 | VIad | unsure why I get a black dialog when I try to connect :/ |
| 11:54.51 | VIad | will try again with 0 addons enabled see if that works |
| 11:57.38 | VIad | hmm, any ideas why the nexus 6p is so cheap these days? |
| 11:57.56 | VIad | I saw it being sold for half the price as the latest samsung phone |
| 12:01.19 | Gnarfoz | mostly because it's crap? and it's older than any "latest Samsung phone" |
| 12:01.31 | Gnarfoz | Google I/O is around the corner with new devices, too |
| 12:03.48 | VIad | what? |
| 12:04.07 | VIad | it seems to be well received when I looked up the reviews :/ |
| 12:04.15 | VIad | crap in what terms? |
| 12:04.30 | Gnarfoz | it's the original "bendgate" phone? :P |
| 12:04.37 | VIad | bendgate? |
| 12:08.06 | VIad | was thinking to buy it because its cheapish and I have a galaxy 3 that has poor android support these days, I have the lte edition that no one devs for anymore :p |
| 12:12.28 | VIad | Gnarfoz: :( |
| 12:12.34 | VIad | stop with your fear mongering |
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| 12:40.39 | bluipodcow | Bend gate ? Oh iPhone 6 ? |
| 12:41.42 | foxlit | partially revealing world quest objectives are evil |
| 12:42.37 | bluipodcow | Hi foxy |
| 12:49.13 | VIad | the rockfeather skyhorn kite supernerf: 15 min CD |
| 12:50.45 | VIad | I think foxy put me on ignore for spamming him about opie stuff :( |
| 12:53.21 | Seeker` | foxlit: you mean the "talk to X" ones? |
| 12:53.40 | foxlit | also the "fill the bar, AND THEN KILL THE BOSS" ones |
| 12:53.53 | nebula | so all the "pvp" ones |
| 12:54.13 | foxlit | no, the pvp ones got fixed |
| 12:54.19 | nebula | :O |
| 12:55.31 | karl_w_w | it's a good phone but it's about to be replaced by new ones |
| 12:55.39 | karl_w_w | on oct 4th |
| 12:55.48 | karl_w_w | I don't think it was the first bendy phone though |
| 12:57.35 | foxlit | being the only ranged in a darkheart thicket group sucks |
| 12:57.35 | Semlar | mark of the hidden satyr isn't showing up on damage meters |
| 12:57.47 | VIad | karl_w_w: but pricepoint is a factor, sure the new one will be amazing and be better than latest samsung one, but we are also talking about double the price :p |
| 12:58.04 | Semlar | so while it may be the best enchant for me, if it's not increasing my damage on the meter it's worthless |
| 12:58.06 | VIad | I bought my galaxy 3 after my galaxy 2 died (battery) and at that time galaxy 5 was out :p |
| 12:58.09 | karl_w_w | I don't think it's best at that price point |
| 12:58.11 | Seeker` | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrrvibdWAAAgQiN.jpg:large |
| 12:58.17 | foxlit | the panther trash does syncrhonized leaps, biting half your face off |
| 12:58.48 | VIad | I don't think either |
| 12:58.57 | VIad | but it is one of the few vanilla android phones :p |
| 12:59.23 | Semlar | foxlit: as a hunter i'm getting targeted by 99% of every boss's abilities |
| 12:59.33 | VIad | Semlar: brutal glaive |
| 12:59.38 | foxlit | shouldn't the healer take at least 50? |
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| 13:00.00 | Semlar | the healer is actually standing in melee range to do his paladin aoe thing |
| 13:00.27 | karl_w_w | yes that's the one reason to buy it really, VIad |
| 13:00.37 | Semlar | even when he's at range, i seem to be the priority target though |
| 13:00.55 | karl_w_w | but if that's the deciding factor for somebody, they should be waiting for the new ones |
| 13:01.04 | Semlar | which is kind of annoying since i don't have unlimited mobility any more |
| 13:01.10 | VIad | disengage? |
| 13:01.21 | foxlit | The panthers don't actually seem to care about melee range |
| 13:01.26 | VIad | karl_w_w: if I get nexus Ill install a rom probably, nexus are nice and flexible with roms :d |
| 13:01.33 | Semlar | the panthers only care that you're ranged |
| 13:01.59 | foxlit | on the bright side, such efflorescence value |
| 13:02.09 | Semlar | i'm not sure what they do with only melee targets |
| 13:02.19 | Semlar | probably implode |
| 13:02.29 | VIad | if the ability is a 8-40 range spell, nothing |
| 13:02.31 | karl_w_w | oneplus 3 VIad? |
| 13:02.37 | VIad | if it's a 40 yard range, then it will target melee :d |
| 13:02.40 | Semlar | the ability has no minimum range |
| 13:02.57 | VIad | the if they implemented AI limitations, otherwise I suspect it will target melee |
| 13:03.23 | Semlar | they 100% prioritize ranged specs |
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| 13:06.07 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=219652/that-ones-mine this tooltip is a huge lie by the way |
| 13:06.26 | Semlar | this doesn't do anywhere near 40% of a target's health |
| 13:07.07 | Semlar | it seems to be more in the neighborhood of 14% |
| 13:07.19 | Semlar | probably depends on the target though |
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| 13:08.13 | nebula | mitigated by armor maybe? |
| 13:08.35 | Semlar | could be |
| 13:09.02 | karl_w_w | did this app just leak the release of iOS 10? |
| 13:09.08 | nebula | its physical, so makes sense |
| 13:09.12 | Semlar | i have seen it deal over a million damage before |
| 13:09.24 | karl_w_w | "iOS 10 is scheduled for release in the next few days" |
| 13:09.28 | Semlar | but that was on something with a lot of health |
| 13:10.05 | nebula | karl_w_w: there is an event today |
| 13:10.16 | Semlar | hemet nesingwary just pops up every once in a while and shoots something |
| 13:10.45 | Semlar | it is interesting that this appears to be flagged "unaffected by invulnerability" |
| 13:10.46 | karl_w_w | sure nebula, but did people already know it was coming out? |
| 13:11.27 | nebula | i mean, people guessed that it would, beta shows it's pretty polished |
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| 13:16.12 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/daPQGvA.png |
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| 13:24.49 | nebula | can you inspect another player's artifact weapon? |
| 13:25.16 | Stanzilla | no |
| 13:26.14 | nebula | lame, should atleast be able to spy on their total ranks purchased |
| 13:27.05 | foxlit | why? |
| 13:27.47 | nebula | why would you inspect anyone? to see their gear progress |
| 13:27.57 | foxlit | it seems like it'd be better for everyone if you couldn't do that. |
| 13:30.35 | foxlit | It seems like a bug that you can immediately complete http://www.wowhead.com/quest=43581/the-wisdom-of-patience |
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| 13:36.57 | Semlar | you can see what relics they're using |
| 13:37.59 | foxlit | no, just a semi-bugged view of their item level |
| 13:37.59 | nebula | you can guess by the ilvl of their weapon, how would you know which they have equipped? |
| 13:38.21 | Semlar | they show up as gems in the item link |
| 13:38.27 | nebula | ah |
| 13:39.34 | Semlar | but just their item ID, so you don't know if they have bonus IDs |
| 13:39.50 | Semlar | like warforged |
| 13:40.02 | Shockah|Work | is there a way to retrieve another player's stamina? |
| 13:40.10 | Semlar | from their health? |
| 13:40.14 | Shockah|Work | hm |
| 13:40.18 | Shockah|Work | i mean |
| 13:40.26 | Shockah|Work | each point in the artifact gives you +0.75% of stamina, right? |
| 13:40.36 | Shockah|Work | could somehow deduce from that + the gear equipped... |
| 13:40.51 | Shockah|Work | but that's probably going hardcore |
| 13:42.36 | Seeker` | "Hey, X, how many ranks have you got on your artifact?" |
| 13:42.47 | nebula | people lie |
| 13:43.00 | Seeker` | do you care if they lie? |
| 13:43.13 | Semlar | you would if you had some reason to know their artifact rank |
| 13:43.16 | Shockah|Work | hardcore guilds may care |
| 13:43.19 | nebula | that they'd feel the need to lie about it, yes |
| 13:43.32 | Seeker` | hardcore guilds can probably work out whether someone is telling the truth about that |
| 13:43.42 | Seeker` | if they feel the need to lie, they probably aren't good enough for a hardcore guild |
| 13:44.02 | nebula | that's pretty much the point |
| 13:44.02 | foxlit | It's inherently the wrong questsion to ask. |
| 13:44.16 | Seeker` | If they care that much about it, they can say "take a screenshot with this conversation visible" |
| 13:44.18 | nevcairiel | plenty harcode raiders are all kinds of anti-social weirdos |
| 13:44.18 | foxlit | Artifact traits are so minor that the difference in power they provide is subsumed by the difference in player skill |
| 13:45.14 | nebula | like all things in raiding, it just an arbitrary benchmark |
| 13:45.38 | nevcairiel | surely a single rank doesnt make a difference, but a number of ranks might |
| 13:45.42 | foxlit | One that we luckily don't have easy access to. |
| 13:45.47 | Seeker` | The only thing it'd tell you is how long they have spent playing since Legion launched |
| 13:45.51 | Shockah|Work | also the bigger points might make a difference |
| 13:45.58 | Seeker` | which will rapidly approach /played at max level |
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| 13:47.15 | Seeker` | and will generally be correlated to ilvl (if they've been doing "appropriate" activities for trying to get in to high end raiding) |
| 13:49.15 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.36 | foxlit | that shouldn't work. |
| 13:49.44 | foxlit | pet,pet |
| 13:49.51 | Semlar | don't be ridiculous |
| 13:50.02 | Semlar | is pet separate from pet |
| 13:50.23 | foxlit | more like target is separate from pet |
| 13:50.34 | Semlar | do you really have to type [@pet,pet:crab] |
| 13:50.53 | nevcairiel | @ is short for target= |
| 13:50.54 | nevcairiel | so yes |
| 13:50.54 | foxlit | You're the hunter, you tell me :) |
| 13:51.52 | Semlar | it actually just flat out doesn't work |
| 13:52.03 | Semlar | maybe it's because he's already got a shank |
| 13:52.12 | Semlar | i can't even do /cast [@pet] crab shank |
| 13:52.26 | foxlit | your pet can't shank itself? |
| 13:52.38 | nevcairiel | crab shank sounds like a pet spell, why would you cast it at the pet |
| 13:52.50 | VIad | its a toy |
| 13:52.52 | Semlar | it's an item i can use on my pet |
| 13:53.03 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.55 | VIad | it says "give a crab a shank" |
| 13:54.00 | VIad | works on companion pets? :d |
| 13:54.07 | Semlar | no |
| 13:54.10 | VIad | >_> |
| 13:54.36 | VIad | spell literally says "Gives a crab a knife." so I expected it to work on any crab |
| 13:55.20 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.00 | Semlar | i don't know why you can't macro this |
| 13:56.04 | VIad | crab should have 0.1% chance to shank you back, as you give it the knife |
| 13:56.14 | VIad | and 0.1% to shank execute mobs it kills |
| 13:57.10 | Semlar | it should dismember corpses |
| 13:57.14 | foxlit | Semlar: it doesn't look like you can specify targets for toys |
| 13:57.36 | foxlit | so try /target pet /use toy /targetlasttarget or something. |
| 13:57.40 | Gnarfoz | "Artifact traits are so minor [...words..]" - they account for multiple tens of thousands of DPS for me |
| 13:58.12 | Gnarfoz | so knowing if someone picked bullshit ones or none at all would be valuable information, if I was the elite guild recruiter person |
| 13:58.16 | Semlar | how would you nullify a pet:crab condition |
| 13:58.20 | Semlar | nopet:crab? |
| 13:58.24 | foxlit | 'Increases some of the healing you do by 1%' << an artifact trait. |
| 13:59.09 | Shockah|Work | some specs get their ACTIVES later on in the tree though |
| 13:59.11 | Semlar | seems to be correct |
| 13:59.11 | foxlit | And if I was an elite guild recruiter person, Gnarfoz, we'd stick the recruits in a group and figure out if their performance was satisfactory or not. |
| 13:59.30 | Shockah|Work | and imo actives are a big boost |
| 13:59.46 | Xuerian | The fact that specs have things that make their class work in artifact progression slays me |
| 14:00.05 | Shockah|Work | tbh not sure how many of specs have that, i just noticed BM hunters do |
| 14:00.48 | Semlar | i should be able to /target my pet and /use crab shank |
| 14:01.15 | Gnarfoz | foxlit:Â it's very apparent you're not a recruiter person. you weed out first, then you measure. |
| 14:02.35 | Semlar | does /target pet have a potentially different behavior than /target [@pet] |
| 14:03.11 | Semlar | i don't know if you give it a unit id if it will attempt to find a target that starts with that |
| 14:03.58 | Seeker` | Gnarfoz: "What route did you take with artifact ranks?". Also, after a couple of months it's pointless as it'll be maxed out anyway |
| 14:04.42 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: I'm saying that "how many artifact traits do you have unlocked?" is a mostly useless signal for selection. |
| 14:05.31 | Gnarfoz | which ones is interesting, not how many (although how many influences which ones you could possibly have picked) |
| 14:05.32 | Semlar | i need to make a WA to monitor this buff on my pet |
| 14:05.44 | Gnarfoz | also, I see your "increase 1% some of the time" and raise you http://i.imgur.com/6fsohxf.png |
| 14:06.03 | foxlit | and all of that is basically a proxy for "Do you have a head on your shoulders?" which comes through without even asking about the artifact :) |
| 14:06.12 | Gnarfoz | that's the one labeled 5 there. uninformed people might go for the golden trait labeled 12 first. |
| 14:07.15 | foxlit | It seems like you'd get both within a day of reaching 110. |
| 14:07.18 | Gnarfoz | yes, we should break in-game meters of all kinds, hide all gear from other players, get rid of the armory, achievement comparison and such. Someone's choices might be questioned, someone's feelings hurt. :P |
| 14:07.19 | Semlar | it's pretty easy to know which route to take, just avoid every single defensive trait on all weapons |
| 14:07.38 | Seeker` | http://i.imgur.com/UCJpTS9.png |
| 14:08.20 | Semlar | i got my first golden trait yesterday so that was nice |
| 14:09.14 | Semlar | maybe some day i'll unlock my relic slot too |
| 14:10.40 | Gnarfoz | Seeker`:Â you go ahead and ask your questions, I'd rather check. it's also easier for me to just look at their armory profile, see that their claims of having cleared such and such raids is bogus ("oh I did that on a different char" "can you log onto that one and talk to me?" "no I sold it") and so on and so forth. bullshitters are everywhere. :P |
| 14:10.52 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: I think you should be able to inspect people's action bars. |
| 14:11.12 | Shockah|Work | pls no |
| 14:11.12 | Gnarfoz | what action bars? also, you should have to enter your preferred text editor. |
| 14:11.17 | foxlit | Does Semlar have Barrage on every key? We'll never know, and it's crucially important that we do! |
| 14:11.26 | Semlar | (yes) |
| 14:11.32 | foxlit | (he might be lying!) |
| 14:11.42 | Semlar | alright, you got me, i have my crab shank macro on one of them |
| 14:12.17 | foxlit | UNACCEPTABLE DPS LOSS! |
| 14:12.23 | Gnarfoz | best stick to making snide comments about people's ability to reach a conclusion that seems obvious to you, but not obvious to them, foxlit. you're terrible at arguing this one. |
| 14:12.56 | Semlar | my neck enchant not showing up on dps meters is an unacceptable dps loss |
| 14:13.08 | Gnarfoz | is it... a neck loss? |
| 14:13.13 | Seeker` | Gnarfoz: Point was that if they can tell you the right (or not wrong) way of chosing them, then that's probably what they picked. |
| 14:13.45 | Gnarfoz | Seeker`:Â maybe, but who's got time fo' dat? |
| 14:14.01 | Seeker` | Dunno. People with time for raiding 12 hours a day for a month? :P |
| 14:14.24 | Gnarfoz | they're probably busy running the 5th split raid on alts |
| 14:14.33 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 14:14.34 | Seeker` | raids don't open for 2 weeks :) |
| 14:14.38 | nebula | not for another two weeks! |
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| 14:14.41 | Seeker` | gotta do something to fill their time |
| 14:14.55 | Gnarfoz | right now they're split running mythic dungeons 5 times, so... there's that. |
| 14:15.22 | Gnarfoz | (which probably implies world quests x5, too, at least the AP ones) |
| 14:15.47 | Seeker` | put the characters on different accounts, multibox the WQs |
| 14:17.06 | Gnarfoz | I wouldn't put it past them |
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| 14:17.50 | nebula | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TiiI4huz4NXKfx7PGvvVTyP6xu8VaDNZ4-FEn69mOhc/edit#gid=1568982409 |
| 14:17.59 | Gnarfoz | https://twitter.com/Methodsco/status/773143446165028868 I'm kind of fed up after 8/8 (soon to 10)... can't imagine doing 40/50 |
| 14:18.08 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: poor them, i did like all the mythics once and i'm almost full geared :p |
| 14:19.09 | Gnarfoz | I got a bunch of items, but almost all of them with terrible stats ;p |
| 14:19.27 | Gnarfoz | can't wait to see Arcway and CoS later this week |
| 14:19.39 | Gnarfoz | (and complete that engineering quest :P) |
| 14:19.45 | nevcairiel | yeah we should have a guild group ready by sunday latest or so |
| 14:20.29 | Seeker` | Does everyone in the group need to have done the quest? |
| 14:20.40 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 14:20.58 | Seeker` | I suspect I'll be pugging it then |
| 14:21.09 | Seeker` | I think I'm furthest through the rep |
| 14:21.13 | Seeker` | in my guild |
| 14:22.56 | nebula | those quests unlock at what? 8k honored? |
| 14:23.15 | nevcairiel | yes |
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| 14:35.39 | Sharparam | hm |
| 14:35.43 | Sharparam | Broker_Garrison is drunk |
| 14:35.46 | Sharparam | http://rfl.im/SV |
| 14:35.49 | Sharparam | it's not complete |
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| 15:13.48 | Ironii | err, http://imgur.com/a/MaI72 what's happening |
| 15:14.03 | Ironii | my camera started to zoom out (i didn't do anything) |
| 15:14.09 | znf | beats Ironii for not linking directly to the image/zoom |
| 15:14.18 | znf | it's not loading |
| 15:15.04 | Ironii | http://ironi.fi/WoWScrnShot_090716_181223.jpg |
| 15:15.20 | Ironii | it stopped zooming out when it reached that distance |
| 15:16.02 | Andols2 | Did you break another camera function? |
| 15:16.32 | Ironii | i don't know ? :D |
| 15:16.36 | Ironii | i logged in and started playing |
| 15:16.48 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: WQ don't complete when they are tracked (shift-clicked), known issue? |
| 15:17.02 | Thunder_Child | Looks more like it is messing with fov than zoom. |
| 15:17.18 | Ironii | did a WQ in highmountain and happened after that |
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| 15:20.39 | Semlar | are you drunk |
| 15:21.21 | VIad | looks like a FOV thing |
| 15:21.39 | VIad | on another subject, I bet I have to scan the tooltip to find out of an item is tradeable to party members? (the blue text) |
| 15:23.07 | Ironii | right now, no, but in the WQ there was some kind of drunk effect and i dispelled it |
| 15:23.23 | Semlar | you can't dispel drunk |
| 15:23.29 | Ironii | WQ was in a cave so i didn't notice the camera thing before i got out of there |
| 15:23.44 | Ironii | it was some kind of poison effect |
| 15:24.00 | Ironii | but the screen looked like i was drunk |
| 15:24.16 | Semlar | yeah but the effect could have made your character actually drunk, which would have to wear off |
| 15:24.44 | Semlar | it could also just have gotten stuck in an effect |
| 15:24.58 | Ironii | yeah looks like the effect was a drunk effect |
| 15:24.58 | Ironii | [18:09:08] You feel completely smashed. |
| 15:24.58 | Ironii | [18:09:10] You feel sober again. |
| 15:25.11 | Ironii | (_applied/dispel) |
| 15:25.29 | Thunder_Child | 2 seconds? What a waste of getting drunk. |
| 15:26.02 | Ironii | :D |
| 15:27.24 | Semlar | although i'm not sure why your screen isn't blurry as shit because as far as i can tell you can't turn off the drunk screen glow any more |
| 15:27.49 | Ironii | it was blurry during the debuff, cleared after i dispelled it |
| 15:29.50 | Semlar | so just your camera is drunk |
| 15:30.14 | foxlit | from the never-going-to-happen department, I'd like a frame background type that just applies a Gaussian blur to what's behind it |
| 15:34.23 | Ironii | hah, i can reproduce that quite easily, go to SW corner of Highmountain, in the cave with Bitestone guys |
| 15:34.41 | Ironii | agro Mushroom Merchant -> wait for 'Hypnoshroom' -> Dispel it |
| 15:34.53 | Ironii | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=201755/hypnoshroom |
| 15:36.22 | Ironii | any loading screen seems to fix it tho, so can't abuse in raids :'( |
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| 15:59.52 | Ssateneth | i've had ffxglow console turned off for years and have never gotten blurry screen |
| 16:01.04 | foxlit | exploits! |
| 16:02.20 | Semlar | then you haven't gotten drunk since 7.0 |
| 16:03.23 | foxlit | https://go-hero.net/i/wq.jpg << well, that's new. |
| 16:04.08 | Semlar | that's also how it displays for me |
| 16:04.23 | Semlar | i'm not sure if it's because i've already killed her for another world quest |
| 16:04.35 | foxlit | I think I've already killed her for /that/ world quest. |
| 16:04.42 | foxlit | Not sure if it completed or not |
| 16:04.52 | Semlar | clearly not! |
| 16:04.59 | foxlit | might've respawned, like the undead. |
| 16:06.22 | Semlar | go do it again |
| 16:08.17 | Semlar | she is a warlock, probably soulstoned |
| 16:12.05 | foxlit | when does the archeology week reset? |
| 16:12.54 | foxlit | Semlar: going there did not help; no objective. |
| 16:13.06 | Semlar | :( |
| 16:13.16 | foxlit | and I said that, she respawned. |
| 16:13.22 | foxlit | Completed the world quest without me doing anything. |
| 16:13.30 | Semlar | did you get the reward |
| 16:13.32 | foxlit | yes. |
| 16:13.39 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 16:13.49 | foxlit | and the sequence of talking head lines was "Thanks!" "You should kill this thing!" |
| 16:15.27 | foxlit | unfortunately the quest didn't respawn, or infinite artifact power would've been mine. |
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| 16:15.53 | znf | foxlit, why would a [@player] macro fail due to invalid target?! |
| 16:17.01 | Semlar | maybe the player isn't a valid target for what you're trying to cast |
| 16:18.03 | znf | Levitate... |
| 16:18.21 | znf | The only Levitate I have on my bars is a self-cast |
| 16:18.22 | znf | Always worked |
| 16:18.23 | znf | until now |
| 16:18.37 | Semlar | what is the full macro |
| 16:19.11 | znf | /cast [@player]Levitate |
| 16:19.59 | Semlar | and you can currently cast it on yourself manually? |
| 16:20.16 | znf | yes |
| 16:20.22 | znf | it also works now with macro |
| 16:20.25 | znf | I've had that macro for years |
| 16:20.30 | znf | and it just failed me now, randomly |
| 16:20.34 | Semlar | well you broke it |
| 16:21.40 | Semlar | for what it's worth, it works fine for me |
| 16:23.47 | znf | it works for me 99/100 times, too |
| 16:23.49 | znf | until I went splat |
| 16:24.06 | foxlit | this calls for quoting c'thun at you |
| 16:24.14 | foxlit | "you have already died." |
| 16:24.26 | Semlar | yeah you probably just lagged |
| 16:24.49 | Semlar | you should cast levitate on every dk you see using wraith walk |
| 16:25.16 | znf | combat log says invalid target... |
| 16:25.22 | znf | I don't see what lag has to do with it in this case |
| 16:25.44 | Semlar | do you have a screenshot of the events? |
| 16:26.02 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/b8THfxQ.png |
| 16:26.06 | znf | er |
| 16:26.09 | Semlar | close |
| 16:26.10 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/HOQgUyP.png |
| 16:27.20 | Semlar | you must have been in a state where you couldn't be levitated, but i'm not sure what limitations it has |
| 16:29.04 | Semlar | it's still possible you managed to hit the ground before attempting to cast the spell but 2 seconds is a fairly large window for that |
| 16:29.23 | znf | no, I had shitloads of time to realize I'm going to go splat |
| 16:29.46 | Semlar | then why didn't you cast it again |
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| 16:30.43 | znf | I did, actually. I heard the "spell failed" sound at least twice |
| 16:31.08 | Semlar | occasionally you can get into a state where you simply can't cast on anything |
| 16:31.23 | Semlar | i've had it happen where i just have to relog because none of my buttons work |
| 16:38.28 | Semlar | although it does say you had nitro boosts going, have you checked that you can actually still levitate yourself with that |
| 16:38.57 | Semlar | i know they kept nerfing it because you could carry the flag in wsg and launch yourself over the entire battleground with it |
| 16:47.05 | Semlar | i have an engineering quest that requires going into the court of stars |
| 16:47.20 | Semlar | that's going to be tricky |
| 16:48.05 | Shockah | ^ same |
| 16:52.23 | TheDanW | Stanzilla: they are completing fine while tracked for me |
| 16:52.23 | Semlar | i wrote an addon to output how much damage hemet nesingwary did when he pops out and shoots something and sometimes he doesn't even damage anything |
| 16:52.42 | Stanzilla | TheDanW: yeah it's weird, it does not happen all the time, only sometimes |
| 16:53.16 | TheDanW | i'll keep an eye out |
| 16:54.44 | Stanzilla | thank you |
| 16:55.04 | Stanzilla | what happend is that I had a WQ tracked and it was 1/1 and checked off |
| 16:55.08 | Stanzilla | but I did not get the reward |
| 16:55.17 | Stanzilla | then I went back to the area, did the objective again, nothing |
| 16:55.22 | Stanzilla | then I untracked it and got the reward |
| 16:57.43 | Semlar | how do you even track a world quest |
| 16:57.50 | Stanzilla | shift click |
| 16:57.59 | Stanzilla | also am I the only one that gets a crit error when switchign chars? |
| 16:58.20 | Semlar | yes |
| 16:59.46 | foxlit | doesn't even require shift: just click the number button on the world map |
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| 17:02.17 | foxlit | (unfortunately this masks whether or not the quest is actually active for you, so you probably don't want to do it) |
| 17:09.40 | znf | Semlar, mkay |
| 17:09.42 | znf | this is stupid |
| 17:09.45 | znf | you can levitate then boost |
| 17:09.49 | znf | not boost then levitate |
| 17:09.50 | znf | wtf? |
| 17:10.18 | znf | <Semlar> i have an engineering quest that requires going into the court of stars |
| 17:10.23 | znf | I am sorry for you. |
| 17:10.37 | znf | I'm going to set foot in that area just when I have to attune. |
| 17:10.38 | znf | That's it. |
| 17:10.46 | znf | I refuse to battle 8mil HP mobs that hit for 200k/hit |
| 17:10.50 | znf | and that aggro 19028310938109238 other mobs |
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| 17:26.35 | TheDanW | foxlit: the ! will be a ? if you're in the area |
| 17:27.19 | TheDanW | Stanzilla: sounds more like a data bug, tracking a WQ just saves that id into a cvar, server doesn't even have a concept of tracked WQs |
| 17:30.15 | Stanzilla | weird |
| 17:30.20 | Stanzilla | I might try a repair install later |
| 17:30.34 | Stanzilla | for the crashes mostly though |
| 17:33.44 | VIad | I found a way to crash the game by scanning tooltip :< |
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| 17:39.54 | znf | Has anyone else noticed that (as a dps) your first dungeon of the day is almost instant queue? |
| 17:41.06 | bshelden | hmmm |
| 17:41.45 | znf | not sure if it's a coincidence |
| 17:41.49 | znf | but this has happened every day now |
| 17:41.58 | Constie | Oh, I didn't realize my healer satchels have been giving me 800g each. That's not too bad. |
| 17:42.08 | Thunder_Child | Well if a one hour queue is instant, then sure. |
| 17:42.19 | bshelden | Ok, that might tempt me to suck it up and pug tank.... might |
| 17:43.53 | znf | Constie, as your first? |
| 17:44.04 | znf | erm, I mean Thunder_Child |
| 17:45.27 | bshelden | I msotly prefer the hour and dps to pugs. The culture of PULL EVERYTHING FASTER drives me nuts. |
| 17:46.00 | znf | you're one of those slow ass princess tanks? |
| 17:48.44 | bshelden | Yep |
| 17:48.55 | Constie | I had a tank yesterday who was really trying hard to go fast. I can't say I recommend speed boosting far ahead of your healer and pulling two packs at a time out of LoS if you haven't told them you're going to do that. |
| 17:49.01 | Thunder_Child | I would not have phrased it that way, but yes. |
| 17:49.04 | Ressy | No problem with that. I had a tank who pulled everything, and I was far behind. |
| 17:49.17 | Ressy | lol Constie |
| 17:50.34 | znf | if a dungeon takes more than 30 minutes due to slow tanking, it's annoying as fuck |
| 17:52.09 | Constie | It all happened to go well, but there were several times where we definitely would've wiped if I had lagged at all or not picked my own speed boost talent or just reacted slowly to things. |
| 17:53.26 | Ressy | I'm used to the bubble giving me speed boost... I keep triggering another healing spell thinking I'm bubbling myself to speed boost. |
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| 18:05.24 | Primer | znf: you playing your SP? |
| 18:05.30 | znf | yes |
| 18:05.36 | Primer | How's your DPS? |
| 18:05.49 | znf | better now |
| 18:05.55 | znf | still lagging on aoe |
| 18:06.06 | Primer | This is due to what? |
| 18:06.22 | Primer | A friend is playing his priest and his DPS is abysmal |
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| 18:06.32 | Primer | And it's not from lack of knowledge or trying |
| 18:06.54 | znf | lack of haste |
| 18:07.11 | znf | decent DPS starts at 30% base haste |
| 18:07.57 | Primer | Cool, thanks |
| 18:08.02 | Primer | What item level are you? |
| 18:09.06 | znf | 838 equipped |
| 18:12.14 | Primer | Yeah, me too, but I've been running mythics as resto, despite having put my AP into my feral weapon |
| 18:15.18 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/hvkatEA.png |
| 18:15.35 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/EBs3tAG.png |
| 18:15.38 | znf | I honestly don't get this crap |
| 18:15.59 | Thunder_Child | They have no vitality? |
| 18:16.00 | foxlit | your follower is too low level and therefore irrelevant. |
| 18:20.06 | bshelden | I find it odd that they let you slot them in at all. |
| 18:20.15 | bshelden | It's a stupid check, and they mostly did away with those. |
| 18:25.01 | foxlit | it's kind of upsetting that followers start at 760 for no good reason. |
| 18:25.23 | foxlit | and so far, I got tokens for a total of +15 item levels during a week. |
| 18:25.33 | znf | same |
| 18:25.45 | znf | basically I'm missing out on a free piece of loot |
| 18:28.32 | Constie | I have +40 so far. Gotten luckier, I guess. |
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| 18:38.45 | Primer | I like how you can get follower experience from running around with them in the world, but they're SO FUCKING ANNOYING |
| 18:38.53 | Primer | Pulling random mobs and keeping you in combat |
| 18:39.07 | Primer | dying to the opposing faction when you can't get them to stop attacking them |
| 18:39.07 | karl_w_w | oh I didn't know that, apple is down to 12% smartphone market share, that's cool |
| 18:39.21 | karl_w_w | I'm sure releasing a phone without a headphone jack is going to improve that |
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| 18:41.53 | Thunder_Child | If anyone can manufacturers to usb type-c for audio it would be them. |
| 18:48.17 | karl_w_w | it feels like they're desperate |
| 18:48.48 | karl_w_w | trying to lock in some people before they leave by getting them to buy wireless headphones that only work with iphones |
| 18:49.49 | nebula | eh, it's not like bluetooth sudden stopped working, of course they're going to tightly integrate their brand |
| 18:50.45 | karl_w_w | they're not using bluetooth |
| 18:50.53 | karl_w_w | http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/6/12825504/apple-wireless-headphones-custom-chip-iphone-7 |
| 18:50.59 | nebula | that's what i ment by integrate |
| 18:51.20 | nebula | you can still use your own "non-apple" wireless headphones |
| 18:51.53 | karl_w_w | most people won't have wireless headphones |
| 18:52.15 | nebula | then they'll plug into their phone like they always have? |
| 18:52.26 | karl_w_w | no headphone jack |
| 18:52.56 | nebula | they all ship with an adapter |
| 18:53.24 | nebula | phone manufacturers have been trying to come up with a way to ditch the analog jack for years |
| 18:53.52 | karl_w_w | but people dont want to carry an adapter around, they'll say it's easier to buy these new beats which are specially designed for my iphone! |
| 18:54.00 | nebula | google is going to ditch it for usb-c soon aswell |
| 18:54.17 | karl_w_w | google didnt just buy a headphone brand |
| 18:54.18 | nebula | it just plugs into the end the headphones you already carry around? |
| 18:55.00 | karl_w_w | im not saying nobody will do that, im saying how apple is encouraging them to do something else |
| 18:57.28 | nebula | well obviously. it's a bit more of a vendor lock than just a charge/data cable, but people will just have to get new stuff or use the adapter or not upgrade their phone |
| 18:57.46 | nebula | i don't know anyone that would consider this a deterrent if they're already using apple products |
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| 19:07.39 | g0urra | well, I guess it's RIP bagbrother again.. getting 134 errors :/ |
| 19:08.08 | foxlit | mostly using bluetooth headphones now anyway |
| 19:09.12 | foxlit | intercontinental fllights are the last place where that's a little awkward, and I could probably just swap to a spare battery there. |
| 19:15.11 | Ssateneth | hmm, were treasure chests just hotfixed? |
| 19:15.16 | Ssateneth | Im getting XP from opening them now |
| 19:15.17 | Thunder_Child | Are you talking about walking around with headphones? |
| 19:15.27 | Thunder_Child | I still prefer earbuds for that. |
| 19:16.18 | Constie | Maybe I should look into those the next time I'm shopping for new ones. Would be nice not to have cord noise when walking around. |
| 19:16.21 | Thunder_Child | Although I use earbuds at work as well. |
| 19:17.17 | Andols | I have these http://www.plantronics.com/us/product/backbeat-go-2 I like them :) |
| 19:17.25 | foxlit | http://global.parrot.com/au/products/zik2/ :) |
| 19:18.31 | Thunder_Child | I also don't like in ear buds. |
| 19:18.59 | Thunder_Child | I use the yuin pk* line |
| 19:20.22 | foxlit | how to make arcwine: get into the vat and jump on the fruit x5, add water x1. |
| 19:21.38 | nebula | yea, the few times i've done it, it's usually do one thing most of the time then something else once or twice |
| 19:23.13 | znf | So... |
| 19:23.15 | znf | How to mine wowhead? |
| 19:23.30 | znf | I need an ID list of their items that grant artifact power |
| 19:23.34 | haste | extract the JS array |
| 19:23.45 | znf | I'm looking for that, but it's not where it used to be |
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| 19:26.59 | znf | found it |
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| 19:34.52 | znf | for (var i = 0; i < listviewitems.length; i++) { console.log(listviewitems[i].id + ', -- ' + listviewitems[i].name.slice(1,listviewitems[i].name.length)) } |
| 19:34.54 | znf | this is stupid |
| 19:34.55 | znf | but it works |
| 19:40.38 | Thunder_Child | can't you use forEach()? |
| 19:42.49 | Thunder_Child | also, is split not viable? |
| 19:43.02 | znf | I used slice |
| 19:51.25 | Ssateneth | slyce |
| 19:57.01 | Sharparam | znf: why not map? :3 |
| 19:57.02 | Sharparam | listviewitems.map(function(item) { return item.id + ', -- ' + item.name.slice(1, item.name.length);}).join('\n'); |
| 19:57.17 | znf | *shrug* |
| 19:57.28 | znf | I'm no javascripter! |
| 19:57.29 | Sharparam | i love using map for things in any language |
| 19:58.48 | znf | OH. |
| 19:58.56 | znf | It turns out, the game already does Relics in its own category |
| 19:59.12 | nebula | eh? they're gems |
| 19:59.24 | nebula | oh artifact relic |
| 19:59.27 | znf | yes |
| 19:59.34 | znf | I was trying to make a new filter for Adibags |
| 19:59.37 | znf | that doesn't use tooltip scanning |
| 19:59.46 | znf | just realized that adibags already categorizes them properly |
| 19:59.49 | nebula | noticed they were in my gems cat, never checked the subtype |
| 20:00.23 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/E3yMjsu.png |
| 20:00.24 | znf | ^^ |
| 20:01.21 | nebula | i use baggins, so it's all custom |
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| 20:01.27 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 20:01.35 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 20:06.05 | Sharparam | baggins is nice |
| 20:06.12 | Sharparam | i used to waste way too much time micromanaging my bags |
| 20:33.05 | Ssateneth | is realm hopping still a thing? or was that fixed |
| 20:33.21 | Ssateneth | trying to get to a legion rare that has a higher than normal spawn time |
| 20:33.58 | znf | yes, ofc it is |
| 20:35.26 | bshelden | It was supposed to be fixed. They 'fixed' it backwords. Joining a group seems to randomly choose who changes shard/realm. It was supposed to be the first person to a shard fixes it. In practice, if we see a rare, we do NOT join a group or it vanishes. |
| 20:36.00 | bshelden | I'm starting to think the whole group gets re-sorted. |
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| 21:25.33 | znf | ~framexml |
| 21:25.33 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
| 21:26.07 | znf | Does anyone remember which is the constant/string for short artifact name? |
| 21:26.13 | Simca_ | >Joining a group seems to randomly choose who changes shard/realm. |
| 21:26.17 | Simca_ | that's how they fixed it |
| 21:26.34 | Simca_ | when you could determine whose realm you went to, it was exploitable |
| 21:26.50 | Simca_ | now that it shuffles people around at random without you having any control, it's not |
| 21:27.29 | znf | now when you want to realm-hop, you just annoy everyone in the LFG section :D |
| 21:27.32 | znf | you apply to all groups :D |
| 21:27.40 | Simca_ | that's the same as before |
| 21:28.08 | Simca_ | but with small groups, there is a high probability that you will pull them to your realm |
| 21:28.16 | Simca_ | and you will have wasted your time trying to do that |
| 21:29.31 | Simca_ | also 3 broken isles zones are accidentally CRZ'd atm |
| 21:30.21 | Simca_ | well, more than 3 technically - all of the class halls outside the main zones + eye of azshara + broken shore + broken isles continent (i.e. the ocean) |
| 21:32.32 | nevcairiel | So not the main continental zones? |
| 21:32.43 | Simca_ | yeah those are fine |
| 21:33.00 | Simca_ | as is dalaran, they just forgot the rest |
| 21:33.31 | Simca_ | (they tweeted it's something they're working to fix too, so confirmed bug) |
| 21:34.52 | nevcairiel | Yeah saw their response, just didn't know what was all affected |
| 21:35.37 | pompy1 | Apparently the player xp reward from the missions is considered an "item" .... |
| 21:37.46 | nevcairiel | Always has been, it gets usually consumed automatically but sometimes it bugs out and you end up with it in your inventory |
| 21:38.19 | znf | if you have full bags, it gets mailed to you |
| 21:38.34 | znf | for a while you could actually sell it on the AH back in WoD |
| 21:42.48 | pompy1 | znf: yes that was my situation |
| 21:52.04 | bshelden | Simca_: If it's determined by first-player-fixes, it's not exploitable beyond having friends on other realms scout for you (they must cooperate). I have no problem with cooperative plays here. Realm hoppers (annoy the group) need to go, and losing the abilitty to group with same-realm friends to get a rare is just stupid. |
| 21:53.15 | Sharparam | broll has been away on mission all day |
| 21:53.19 | Sharparam | making me quest alone :( |
| 21:53.36 | Thunder_Child | foxlit would make that sound like a good thing. |
| 21:54.00 | Sharparam | i did experience broll running away pulling a random mob the other day |
| 21:54.05 | Sharparam | i still love him though |
| 21:54.24 | Sharparam | if only to be opposite foxlit |
| 21:54.38 | Simca_ | bshelden: yes, they hurt situations like yours with their fix. but i am almost certain they knew the risk and did it intentionally to discourage realm hopping |
| 21:54.43 | bshelden | I feel scared and alone without Akama's shade next to me. |
| 21:54.56 | bshelden | Well, they ended grouping up to fight a rare. |
| 21:55.06 | bshelden | Literally, since grouping up means the rare vanishes. |
| 21:55.47 | bshelden | tl;dr: That this fucks same-realm players is the defect. |
| 21:56.03 | znf | >see SWP being at 0.9s left |
| 21:56.09 | znf | >cast Void Bolt to refresh it |
| 21:56.15 | znf | >swp doesn't refresh |
| 21:56.16 | Sharparam | blizzard is ending grouping in the world. no fun allowed |
| 21:56.17 | znf | >just shadow things |
| 21:56.28 | Sharparam | groups only allowed inside dungeons and raids now |
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| 22:23.49 | Semlar | i haven't had any issue grouping to kill something |
| 22:26.29 | Primer | me neither |
| 22:38.33 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~quassel@unaffiliated/kd3) |
| 22:42.20 | Gnarfoz | not to mention they're ususally open tap anyway |
| 22:57.54 | Mr_Rabies | so uh |
| 23:01.23 | Mr_Rabies | this is sitting in my bags and i can't interact with it :< http://www.wowhead.com/item=140584/player-experience#comments |
| 23:51.23 | p3lim | Stanzilla: https://github.com/p3lim-wow/Talentless |
| 23:51.25 | p3lim | Go nuts |
