| 00:08.28 | Simca_ | what determines 'upgrade'? ilvl? |
| 00:08.46 | foxlit | probably. |
| 00:13.41 | Gnarfoz | anyone got an idea why Nighteyes is not in the menagerie in Suramar? |
| 00:14.44 | Simca_ | presumably you saved him already from the collar of domination? |
| 00:15.24 | Gnarfoz | I saw a collar mentioned in the quest description but none of these quests are properly linked together on wowhead |
| 00:15.28 | Gnarfoz | so... no, no idea |
| 00:16.25 | Gnarfoz | where is that? |
| 00:17.05 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=41216/survival-of-the-fittest this seems to be the first quest, but it already mentions a collar |
| 00:18.03 | Gnarfoz | ah, is it this? http://www.wowhead.com/quest=40617 |
| 00:18.10 | Gnarfoz | yeah, looks like |
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| 00:34.26 | znf | Stanzilla, did you get Normal, Heroic or Mythic dungeon cache? |
| 00:34.31 | znf | from missions |
| 00:34.49 | Stanzilla | none |
| 00:35.06 | znf | you failed it, too? :D |
| 00:35.37 | Stanzilla | I didnt even know there is such a thing? |
| 00:35.54 | znf | huh? |
| 00:36.04 | znf | the missions? |
| 00:36.07 | znf | which start a quest? |
| 00:36.11 | znf | and you have to do a dungeon? |
| 00:36.16 | znf | quest that grants a cache? |
| 00:36.21 | Stanzilla | that timed out before I had followers that could do them |
| 00:36.31 | znf | ah, yeah |
| 00:36.48 | znf | I had like 5 minutes left, and I just #yolo at ~60% |
| 00:37.01 | Stanzilla | what's the name of the mission again |
| 00:37.01 | znf | guildie got mythic cache though |
| 00:37.08 | znf | dunno, changes every week |
| 00:37.12 | Stanzilla | yours |
| 00:37.28 | znf | ...I failed it |
| 00:37.41 | znf | but mine was heroic :-/ |
| 00:38.12 | znf | guildie dinged literally yesterday |
| 00:38.15 | znf | and he got a mythic |
| 00:38.19 | znf | fucking rogues |
| 00:38.22 | znf | he also had followers for 100% |
| 00:38.27 | znf | I'm not sure how the fuck that happens |
| 00:48.35 | Stanzilla | yeah like I said, the whole missions bucket is super bullshit |
| 00:48.41 | diesal_ | randomly fiddling around with combat log events when it capturees this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68742776/banwave.png |
| 00:48.43 | Stanzilla | even moreso when they hotfix it all the time |
| 00:49.46 | znf | diesal_, that's just his name |
| 00:51.40 | diesal_ | ah yeah it is too |
| 00:53.10 | znf | the fuck is going on with my internet |
| 00:53.15 | znf | my game keeps DC-ing |
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| 01:34.23 | Gnarfoz | Meh, not sure what else I need to unlock the tel'anor world quest that's about to expire on EU |
| 01:34.56 | Gnarfoz | Did that side quest chain, apparently not enough |
| 01:35.03 | znf | about to? |
| 01:35.06 | znf | it's 6 hours O.o |
| 01:35.11 | Gnarfoz | Yes |
| 01:35.25 | znf | I'm more curious about this fucker here http://i.imgur.com/6WZza72.png |
| 01:36.06 | Gnarfoz | It's the same one as before? |
| 01:37.09 | Gnarfoz | Anyway, back to work in a couple of hours,... sleep now z_z |
| 01:37.36 | Gnarfoz | Time played this level: 3d8h25min |
| 01:38.37 | znf | you have 2 hours more :o |
| 01:38.38 | znf | than me |
| 01:38.39 | znf | !! |
| 01:51.05 | Xuerian | Meanwhile I'm just rerolling alts on another server. What's endgame? |
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| 02:01.26 | znf | Stanzilla, almost done |
| 02:02.45 | Stanzilla | znf: with what |
| 02:03.06 | znf | fishing guy |
| 02:03.10 | Stanzilla | oh ok |
| 02:03.45 | znf | halfway to best friend |
| 02:13.05 | znf | you are now best friend |
| 02:53.25 | znf | Stanzilla, done |
| 03:09.47 | Ssateneth | so what ARE the highmountain tribe? |
| 03:09.51 | Ssateneth | are they mooses? |
| 03:09.58 | Ssateneth | or moocows with antlers? |
| 03:11.42 | znf | Taunka...? |
| 03:12.05 | kullervo | they're tauren blessed by the uhhh |
| 03:12.07 | kullervo | forest deity |
| 03:24.12 | znf | Stanzilla http://i.imgur.com/gjIrxmE.jpg |
| 03:24.13 | znf | ?! |
| 03:24.17 | znf | why does it take reduced damage? |
| 03:24.17 | znf | wtf? |
| 03:24.39 | kullervo | btw I permabugged the prot paladin artifact glow |
| 03:24.47 | kullervo | lasted until the next HS |
| 03:25.45 | znf | god damn it, blizzard |
| 03:26.22 | kullervo | lothraxion has a holy gaze that increases target's damage taken |
| 03:26.38 | znf | yes, I know... |
| 03:26.47 | znf | by 50% |
| 03:26.51 | kullervo | also, this glow http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/WoWScrnShot_090516_053808.jpg |
| 03:28.22 | znf | what the fuck is going on |
| 03:31.07 | znf | I'll try to let it reset for 30 minutes |
| 03:37.48 | fewyn | hrm now do i want to finish highmountain or go do more world quests |
| 03:50.25 | mfgmfg | what would i run in a macro to 'right click' an item in bag 1 slot 1 to place it in the obliterum forge? |
| 03:51.50 | mfgmfg | tried usecontaineritem(1,1), /click, /use |
| 03:54.11 | mfgmfg | oh wait, usecontaineritem works, wrong bag number |
| 04:04.33 | Ironii | i wrote a script+macro to friend for mass producing obliterum that would select item from bags (ignoring epics since he wanted to DE them) and place it in the obliterum ui ;P |
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| 04:15.24 | mfgmfg | yup |
| 04:15.54 | mfgmfg | i'm turning 48g of mats into 360g of oblit ash |
| 04:19.45 | Corrodias | i'm turning about 350 g of pizza into a bit less than that of... less valuable materials |
| 04:22.16 | znf | mfgmfg, what are you converting? |
| 04:33.27 | Arrowmaster | ugg, if im going to goto work in the morning i better goto bed, but i dont want to goto work, but it will be an easy high paying day |
| 04:35.26 | mckenziemc | maybe they will teach you not to use goto |
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| 05:07.12 | fewyn | wlegion is a ton of fun |
| 05:07.14 | fewyn | so far |
| 05:10.17 | mckenziemc | so is vector calculus |
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| 05:38.10 | mfgmfg | znf, warhide pants rank 3 |
| 05:45.16 | fewyn | hrm 2hr 21m until class order hall mission is over... do i want to stay awake for it |
| 05:50.42 | mfgmfg | helm/pants and mail ones should work too, check mat prices |
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| 06:18.48 | Torhal | fewyn: Set alarm. Nap. |
| 06:18.53 | Torhal | Do quest, go back to sleep. |
| 06:18.57 | Torhal | Easy! |
| 06:20.03 | fewyn | i just fell through a bridge |
| 06:20.05 | fewyn | in suramar |
| 06:20.07 | fewyn | and got dced |
| 06:20.09 | fewyn | rip |
| 06:24.33 | fewyn | it'll be much easier to do that with the app i think Torhal |
| 06:24.37 | fewyn | tueeeesday |
| 06:25.08 | Torhal | What does that even mean? :/ |
| 06:25.59 | Kalroth | noone knows what it means, but it's provocative! |
| 06:26.36 | Torhal | provokes Kalroth into deleting mckenziemc's source code. |
| 06:26.40 | fewyn | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xSKXV52imc Torhal |
| 06:27.57 | Constie | I fell through a bridge in Suramar yesterday. I think maybe it doesn't have collision when you're phased. |
| 06:28.01 | Constie | If it's the same one. |
| 06:28.04 | Kalroth | takes a quick look at mckenziemc's source code, judges it and makes the call for the betterment of humanity |
| 06:28.12 | fewyn | northwest side of suramar Constie ? |
| 06:28.17 | Constie | Yeah. |
| 06:28.22 | fewyn | yeeeeep |
| 06:28.31 | Torhal | That seems dangerous, fewyn. |
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| 06:29.27 | Kalroth | http://i.imgur.com/o5rBK3z.gifv |
| 06:30.11 | fewyn | with the app i can grab my phone and do things |
| 06:30.18 | fewyn | ezpz |
| 06:30.28 | fewyn | now i'd have to actually wake up to get to the computer |
| 06:31.15 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/H7aph |
| 06:38.46 | kd3 | whee... a trinket titanforged up to 820 from a normal dungeon. that's my new highest ilvl item |
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| 07:53.14 | VIad | I noticed yesterday that some world quests didn't appear on the map, but were in the world. if I entered the zone, I got them... |
| 07:53.18 | VIad | is it a bug or? |
| 07:53.46 | VIad | like I suddenly had a finish world quest in suramar, but it was definetly not on the map, and I checked the map filters, they are showing all the map items :/ |
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| 07:55.48 | kd3 | profession quests are often not shown |
| 07:55.54 | kd3 | there's a few others not showing up either |
| 07:56.43 | VIad | the map has profession related filters for on/off |
| 07:56.52 | kd3 | yup, and the toggle does nothing |
| 07:56.54 | VIad | I only see one engineer one for days now :p |
| 07:57.10 | VIad | toggling for me toggles that one quest |
| 07:57.15 | VIad | probably a bug then |
| 07:57.30 | VIad | wonder if it's like, map bug or if the API has the data? |
| 07:57.39 | VIad | probably API bug though so they don't appear at all |
| 07:57.51 | VIad | I've tried 3 world quest addons before I settled for angry world quests |
| 07:57.56 | VIad | and all showed the same data |
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| 08:35.01 | Semlar | reforges kd3+ |
| 08:35.11 | kd3 | Kinda horrifying that in less than a week my character's gone up nearly 100 ilvls. And that it's got 1.3M health. |
| 08:35.36 | Semlar | i didn't have a high enough item level for heroics so we just started doing mythics |
| 08:37.04 | Semlar | when we started i had a 797 item level and now it's 827 after clearing all of them |
| 08:38.55 | Shockah|Work | "so we just started doing mythics" |
| 08:38.56 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 08:40.01 | Semlar | the last boss in halls of valor was probably the hardest fight for us for some reason |
| 08:40.05 | foxlit | To be fair Semlar plays a hunter, so his item level is largely irrelevant. |
| 08:40.11 | Semlar | :O |
| 08:40.38 | Semlar | thankfully there's no run back if you wipe |
| 08:41.07 | VIad | hmm. what is so hard on mythic? |
| 08:41.13 | nebula | nothing really |
| 08:41.17 | VIad | like if you interrupt but don't kill the adds they wipe you? :po |
| 08:41.23 | VIad | they get quicker casts right? |
| 08:41.29 | Semlar | have you done it on mythic |
| 08:41.54 | VIad | isn't mythic heroic only more hp/dmg on the stuff? |
| 08:42.00 | kd3 | nope |
| 08:42.07 | Semlar | i wouldn't know because i haven't done any heroics |
| 08:42.09 | kd3 | new abilities/wrinkles in those abilities |
| 08:42.26 | kd3 | yes, there's more damage too, but it's not just a straight throughput increase |
| 08:42.56 | Semlar | his aoe takes up the entire room |
| 08:43.09 | VIad | the stompknockback thing? |
| 08:43.19 | Semlar | not sure, it one shots you if you get caught |
| 08:43.25 | VIad | yes |
| 08:43.34 | VIad | but has to be a way to avoid dying to that :p |
| 08:43.54 | Semlar | i don't know how big it is on heroic but it's hilariously large on mythic |
| 08:45.37 | foxlit | Haven't noticed any straight up new mechanics in mythic |
| 08:45.52 | nebula | they're the same as heroics afaik, just more damage |
| 08:46.07 | foxlit | and more health, which is kind of nice. |
| 08:46.09 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:46.15 | foxlit | Some heroic bosses fall over if you sneeze on them. |
| 08:46.23 | nebula | thats normal, Semlar :p |
| 08:46.27 | foxlit | 40 yards vs 30 yards, Semlar. |
| 08:46.53 | Semlar | it's a lot smaller on normal, at any rate |
| 08:47.11 | Semlar | running without a speed boost you can barely clear the edge of it |
| 08:47.24 | VIad | that's normal |
| 08:47.41 | VIad | you made me lookup info on google and mythic is like heroic just a bit harder on the numbers |
| 08:47.54 | Semlar | that wasn't the hard part of the fight though, the main issue is that it was super RNG |
| 08:48.26 | Semlar | people kept getting gripped straight through orbs that were being shot out by the spears |
| 08:48.36 | Semlar | and stunned right in the middle of his aoe |
| 08:48.51 | Semlar | and there basically wasn't anything you could do to avoid that |
| 08:49.18 | foxlit | sure there is |
| 08:49.30 | foxlit | If you're in melee range, grip doesn't do much. |
| 08:49.48 | Semlar | he gripped you while he was casting that aoe |
| 08:50.09 | nebula | in before he casts it, the closer you are, the less travel time |
| 08:50.29 | foxlit | -> also less chance of hitting an orb if your travel distance is 2 yards. |
| 08:50.56 | Semlar | also the color of the rune that matches the red rune on the floor isn't red when it's above your head |
| 08:51.21 | Semlar | it's like orange/yellow |
| 08:51.32 | VIad | the spears spawn on players too? what if you tank him more to the edge and time it so you get the "go to the rune" phase when spears are not in the middle of the room? |
| 08:51.56 | VIad | I had no problems with the colors, and I looked at the rune shape |
| 08:52.45 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.19 | VIad | that looks pretty clear |
| 08:53.22 | Semlar | lol |
| 08:53.29 | Semlar | that isn't red |
| 08:53.39 | VIad | yours is blue |
| 08:53.45 | VIad | paladins orange |
| 08:53.58 | VIad | but it's the only "N" shape too |
| 08:54.11 | Semlar | the N is for Not red |
| 08:54.11 | VIad | to keep it color blind friendly |
| 08:54.43 | VIad | you use a lot of combat assistive addons :p |
| 08:54.50 | VIad | so far I use no encounter based warnings |
| 08:54.55 | VIad | except default blizz once |
| 08:54.59 | VIad | works pretty well |
| 08:55.22 | VIad | your add got off a cast of Surge it seems |
| 08:55.24 | Semlar | uh i don't actually look at my screen when i'm playing |
| 08:55.34 | Semlar | so i don't even know what addon you're talking about |
| 08:55.36 | VIad | those have to be dealt with |
| 08:55.45 | Semlar | bigwigs i assume |
| 08:55.47 | VIad | the odyn/stormforged healthbar and cast icons for example |
| 08:56.02 | VIad | kill the obliterator Semlar:( |
| 08:56.12 | VIad | surge gets double quick cast time if you don't interrupt |
| 08:56.18 | VIad | the adds are CCable |
| 08:56.24 | Semlar | how about you go do that fight with a sub 800 item level and tell me how easy it was |
| 08:56.36 | VIad | you have a mage too, so 2 ranged |
| 08:56.41 | VIad | should be fine |
| 08:56.57 | Semlar | thanks |
| 08:56.59 | VIad | interrupt doesn't require item level :d |
| 08:57.00 | Semlar | for telling me how easy it is |
| 08:57.10 | VIad | do you got binding shot? extra stun |
| 08:57.12 | nebula | we did them at 795~ |
| 08:57.14 | Semlar | that's not insulting |
| 08:57.24 | Semlar | uh huh |
| 08:57.36 | VIad | I haven't done mythic though so we'll see how that goes :p atm 830 ilvl soon |
| 08:57.43 | VIad | but tank so probably not relevant |
| 08:57.48 | Semlar | you currently have a higher item level than i do right now |
| 08:57.58 | Semlar | and i have 8 mythic pieces now |
| 08:58.16 | VIad | world quests can sometimes reward higher ilvl gear, got a 840 chest yesterday :o |
| 08:58.37 | VIad | scales with your ilvl somehow, like to try give rewards worth doing :p |
| 08:59.08 | Semlar | also nebula: i'm willing to bet you didn't go into that fight on mythic without having done it before |
| 08:59.23 | nebula | >.> |
| 08:59.30 | VIad | <.< |
| 08:59.31 | Semlar | i'm not saying we didn't kill the boss, i'm saying it was the hardest mythic fight we did |
| 08:59.58 | Semlar | granted it was also 3am |
| 08:59.59 | VIad | I did several normals to get comfortable, then the heroics yesterday |
| 09:00.11 | VIad | probably will do mythic this weekend |
| 09:00.47 | VIad | whole odyn difficulty is just avoid the circle of death and deal with adds that spawn in a min intervals |
| 09:00.57 | VIad | rest should be fine |
| 09:01.11 | VIad | perhaps positioning, if there are smart ways to position the spears |
| 09:01.18 | VIad | so you dont get balls everywhere when they explode |
| 09:01.39 | VIad | btw does monk still have their teleport thing? that they used to TP outside of boss room if wipe |
| 09:01.47 | VIad | can you use it to TP back down and fight on odyn? :p |
| 09:01.49 | VIad | if you die |
| 09:05.34 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:06.07 | VIad | oh I realized you are BM now :o |
| 09:06.16 | Semlar | i'm marks |
| 09:06.23 | VIad | hmm |
| 09:06.29 | VIad | you got stampede as marks? |
| 09:06.34 | VIad | buff under avatar |
| 09:06.38 | VIad | looks like stampede :p |
| 09:06.55 | Semlar | that's the minion from black arrow |
| 09:06.59 | VIad | aha |
| 09:07.45 | VIad | hmm, do warriors have aoe spel lreflect? |
| 09:07.50 | VIad | I wonder what you can reflect these days |
| 09:07.59 | VIad | like on odyn, can you chesse mechanics with reflect? |
| 09:08.05 | nebula | no |
| 09:08.06 | VIad | the balls? the surge aoe? |
| 09:08.26 | nebula | generally can't reflect aoe/env stuff |
| 09:08.26 | VIad | or was it roflstomp nerfed since all the wod reflect/spellsteal thing? :p |
| 09:08.36 | VIad | you could reflect lava waves in docks |
| 09:08.42 | VIad | stuff you wouldn't consider reflectable |
| 09:09.38 | Semlar | spell reflect had a very brief time where it affected the entire group when you cast it and had virtually no cooldown and was hilarious |
| 09:11.23 | VIad | but it feels like blizz, for legion, nerfect what is reflectable and not and generally removed a lot of such abilities from players |
| 09:11.34 | VIad | like hunters, rogues, DK, can't remove a buff of an enemy anymore |
| 09:11.37 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:11.50 | VIad | forcing you to make sure you have a priest, mage or shaman to handle buffs on enemies :p |
| 09:11.50 | foxlit | "Havi's companion doesn't like you for some reason." |
| 09:12.02 | foxlit | I get it, raven, but where's my option to eat you? |
| 09:12.05 | VIad | DK simulactrum is also a honor talent |
| 09:12.32 | Semlar | i had no idea this was even still in the game |
| 09:12.42 | Semlar | the spell i'm remembering was in like BC |
| 09:13.34 | Semlar | it only had something like a 10 second cooldown and could affect the whole group |
| 09:14.23 | nebula | not sure what you're referring to, sr has always been 25s |
| 09:15.11 | nebula | i remember reflecting hodir's frozen blows, that was fun |
| 09:16.53 | nebula | maybe it was 10s pre 4.1 |
| 09:16.57 | AcidWeb | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.13 | Semlar | spell reflect had a 10 second cooldown in BC |
| 09:18.01 | nebula | Cataclysm Patch 4.1.0 (2011-04-26): Cooldown has been increased to 25 seconds, up from 10. |
| 09:18.25 | Semlar | but i don't remember what made it an aoe |
| 09:18.32 | Semlar | probably a talent |
| 09:18.37 | VIad | I still need opie to properly allow me to checkbox that it doesn't show toys that are not usable in the rings :( |
| 09:19.11 | VIad | being engineer now for the first time since tbc, tons of engineer toys and I like to use shared rings, but on non-engineers it's a ton of unusable things on them :p |
| 09:19.47 | VIad | and a lot of toys "must be in draenor" or "broken isles", luckily there is API to check for toy usability, but opie has to incorporate it, but it seems tricky to do in combat :/ |
| 09:21.47 | foxlit | AcidWeb: I think they neglected to put them in the spellbook? |
| 09:22.20 | VIad | ^ think so yes |
| 09:25.37 | AcidWeb | foxlit: yep |
| 09:32.41 | max41479 | Hi, anyone know how generate or determine ilvl of item based at itemlink? |
| 09:33.09 | max41479 | Legion quest item |
| 09:33.32 | nevcairiel | only way is to create a tooltip and read it |
| 09:33.40 | nevcairiel | or figure out all the arcane workings of bonus ids |
| 09:35.04 | max41479 | i want to figure out all the arcane workings of bonus ids, but i thought it was already done by someone else) |
| 09:35.19 | nevcairiel | good luck with that, it doesnt appear to be :d |
| 09:35.49 | Seeker` | max41479: Blizz dev's have basically said it's too complicated to work out / keep up to date |
| 09:36.05 | Seeker` | there will be a new API function in 7.1 that gives the actual ilvl |
| 09:36.57 | max41479 | oh, ty |
| 09:37.17 | max41479 | then i'll wait 7.1 |
| 09:39.15 | Shockah|Work | not sure if it's worth waiting |
| 09:39.41 | Shockah|Work | they'll be opening the 2nd raid in January or so |
| 09:40.04 | Shockah|Work | i doubt we're getting 7.1 before then |
| 09:40.18 | Shockah|Work | or did they announce a release date? |
| 09:40.38 | VIad | 7.1 release coming early november |
| 09:40.46 | VIad | or late october |
| 09:40.59 | VIad | source: classified, trust me |
| 09:41.04 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 09:41.43 | nevcairiel | 7.1 will be long before the second raid |
| 09:41.52 | nevcairiel | since the small raid coming with 7.1 is meant to augment the first read |
| 09:41.55 | nevcairiel | not the second one |
| 09:42.00 | Shockah|Work | fine |
| 09:42.18 | Shockah|Work | still, that's 2 months of waiting |
| 09:42.30 | Shockah|Work | at the very least |
| 09:43.38 | max41479 | well, i'll try to figure out ilvl generation, and if a can't, i 'll use tooltip scan as a temporary solution :) gl to me) |
| 09:46.19 | Seeker` | max41479: just so you know, I asked a dev if they could share the method for working out ilvl, and they said that it was probably too complicated to re-implement and maintain properly |
| 09:46.38 | foxlit | https://go-hero.net/i/broll7.mp4 |
| 09:48.21 | max41479 | ok, thanks |
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| 09:54.30 | VIad | should just have had the item string contain some IDs looked up in a db file with fields describing the effect on the item, ilvl being one of them, quality, and such |
| 09:54.52 | VIad | probably is something like that right now |
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| 10:11.27 | Semlar | foxlit i'm pretty sure your follower is trolling you |
| 10:16.19 | foxlit | I also like how he disappears after every bombing quest. |
| 10:16.35 | Gnarfoz | don't you have someone else you can take along? :D |
| 10:17.18 | foxlit | I can have a bunch of critters follow me around courtesy of mylune? |
| 10:17.28 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 10:17.31 | nevcairiel | those are awesome |
| 10:17.34 | foxlit | which is a hoot for stelth classes. |
| 10:17.42 | VIad | I prefer the followers with abilities I use or they proc |
| 10:17.51 | foxlit | "nope, totally not a stealthed druid here. No, no, go away." |
| 10:18.01 | VIad | for instance yesterday, did some world quests, my champion tried to destroy a poor paladin that managed to aoe me/him |
| 10:18.22 | VIad | follower had a vendetta to ruin his life, didn't even focus the mob I was focusing |
| 10:19.04 | VIad | imagine a 2.5 mil hp dps follower that can kill you, with a 10 sec respawn time if you kill it :p |
| 10:19.29 | VIad | and owner have no control, and their pathing can be iffy inside these pvp towers |
| 10:20.28 | nevcairiel | i hate permanent bodyguards, they always keep me in combat doing all sorts of shit |
| 10:20.52 | nevcairiel | same thing with mylunes faerie dragons, they usually spawne when i randomly aggro something, but when i want to fight something they dont help a bit |
| 10:20.55 | VIad | at least they let us be flexible with those this time around |
| 10:20.56 | nevcairiel | so i use naralex |
| 10:21.08 | nevcairiel | he has a stun/dps boost button |
| 10:21.08 | VIad | pick the champion that suits us best |
| 10:21.39 | VIad | I have one with aoe that I usually pick, so I place her where I want to aoe |
| 10:21.54 | VIad | got a proc one that is better for ST but random since proc |
| 10:22.18 | Seeker` | World quests are awesome. 850 neck ftw |
| 10:22.35 | VIad | the world quest rewards scale based on your ilvl right? |
| 10:22.39 | VIad | so you are around 830 ilvl atm? |
| 10:23.02 | nevcairiel | they can always proc upwards |
| 10:23.16 | VIad | I don't see WQ with rewards lower ilvl than mine atm |
| 10:23.21 | VIad | usually same or higher |
| 10:23.37 | VIad | but I thought they look at your average ilvl as base point |
| 10:23.38 | nevcairiel | there is certain cut-off points to reach, its not f ully dynamic |
| 10:24.11 | nevcairiel | and an upper limit |
| 10:24.20 | nevcairiel | i'm 845 and world quests dont provide items that high |
| 10:24.26 | nevcairiel | unless they proc an upgrade |
| 10:24.55 | Seeker` | VIad: It was an 835 item that procced titanforged. I was 836 before I got the neck, 838 now |
| 10:24.59 | nevcairiel | the gear quests give 835 now without a proc |
| 10:25.32 | nevcairiel | some of the boe gear quests have a slightly lower base level |
| 10:25.38 | nevcairiel | being boe and all |
| 10:26.10 | Seeker` | nevcairiel: have you unlocked your 3rd relic slot? |
| 10:26.15 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 10:26.38 | Seeker` | Think I get mine tomorrow |
| 10:28.39 | Shockah|Work | just gotta wait out those 12 hour missions now |
| 10:28.54 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â re Balance of Power quest chain: it's great that I got it after doing Mythic EoA :C I went into the cleared instance and grabbed the item though, so I don't forget when we go there again :D |
| 10:29.14 | Gnarfoz | not that it's going to help me, considering 2 or 3 quests further in it'll want me to go into the raid that's not open, yet |
| 10:29.17 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: its really not important to finish it right now :p |
| 10:29.20 | Seeker` | Shockah|Work: yeah, same here. I'm on the penultimate one now. |
| 10:29.31 | Shockah|Work | should end in 22 hours or so |
| 10:29.44 | Shockah|Work | if i don't forget to send the last one in 10 |
| 10:30.34 | Seeker` | pretty much exactly the same as me |
| 10:30.43 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â it puts annoying markers on my map! :D same as some engineering quest that wants me to do Arcway, always trips me up while doing WQs in Suramar |
| 10:30.46 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i still need to do darkheart thicket m, after that it should get to the raid directly i think |
| 10:30.54 | Gnarfoz | yeah, something like that |
| 10:31.09 | Gnarfoz | I had to do the Senegos quest line in Azsuna first, though |
| 10:31.16 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 10:31.29 | Gnarfoz | so much annoyance from leaving out side quests while leveling, more hassle than it was worth |
| 10:31.57 | nevcairiel | we did most of them |
| 10:32.02 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:32.20 | nevcairiel | the harpies dont pop up for people that quested through the main story |
| 10:32.25 | nevcairiel | its there for people that didnt |
| 10:32.31 | nevcairiel | like, some sort of compensation |
| 10:32.52 | Gnarfoz | huh? ok |
| 10:33.01 | Gnarfoz | inverse of what I was going for then, apparently |
| 10:33.18 | nevcairiel | guildy that was fresh into suramar got it, but of course they dont get the other ones in suramar city |
| 10:33.42 | Gnarfoz | every last scrap of Nighfallen rep must be consumed! |
| 10:33.50 | Gnarfoz | rep junkie just like they are mana junkies |
| 10:33.51 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 10:34.14 | nevcairiel | remember to bring a top hat or carousel bfuf when using the withered scenario rep items |
| 10:34.16 | Gnarfoz | doubt I'll be able to make it to 8000 before Wednesday, though |
| 10:34.27 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I've got some top hats in my inventory |
| 10:34.54 | Gnarfoz | 16 hours of Legion per day for the last 6 days... wow :D |
| 10:34.58 | nevcairiel | i'm at 4000 now, didnt do WQs today yet |
| 10:35.08 | nevcairiel | but 8000 by tomorrow still sounds hard |
| 10:35.10 | Gnarfoz | you probably didn't fuck up the first two withered scenarios |
| 10:35.16 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 10:35.17 | nevcairiel | one of them |
| 10:35.30 | nevcairiel | but the other 3 i did went fine |
| 10:35.50 | Gnarfoz | the other 3? aren't we only on number 4 today? |
| 10:36.00 | nevcairiel | yeah and i just finished it |
| 10:37.18 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 10:37.32 | Gnarfoz | does getting a score higher than what gets you 425 rep make much of a difference somehow? |
| 10:37.39 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 10:37.47 | nevcairiel | thats where i usually end and go collect chests |
| 10:37.51 | Gnarfoz | just grab as many chests as possible |
| 10:38.13 | nevcairiel | i'm happy to be a tank class, mage friend in the guild suffers through dro everytime |
| 10:38.14 | Gnarfoz | I'm sticking to the big chests for now, more withered upgrade should mean better runs in the future? |
| 10:38.27 | nevcairiel | i got two big and two mediums this run |
| 10:38.49 | nevcairiel | most other big ones are behind bosses now |
| 10:38.53 | nevcairiel | i hate doing those |
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| 11:02.17 | Tomaz^W | Semlar: any plans to update pinlight? |
| 11:04.35 | VIad | wow 640x480 via remote desktop just to turn in and start the next 9 hour quest :p so I get done tonight when I play |
| 11:06.00 | Semlar | Tomaz^W: i hadn't really planned on it |
| 11:06.08 | Tomaz^W | :/ |
| 11:06.24 | Tomaz^W | Semlar: care to explain how you extracted the coords? |
| 11:06.59 | Semlar | i think i did explain it on wowinterface somewhere |
| 11:09.14 | Semlar | i mean i have to rewrite the script basically every time i want to generate that stuff |
| 11:09.23 | Semlar | because they change something |
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| 11:10.00 | Tomaz^W | Semlar: ok |
| 11:10.11 | VIad | what is pinlight? |
| 11:10.34 | Semlar | it just marks where you can go to reveal a portion of the map |
| 11:11.06 | Kalroth | its also the danish word for awkward! |
| 11:11.40 | Semlar | who knew |
| 11:11.58 | VIad | with the ability to trade items to others, I was thinking to make some addon for myself that inspects people so I can easier see who might want it :p |
| 11:11.59 | Tomaz^W | I've used Semlar's db of the overlays for my own addon, that is basically a browser that shows which continents you still got places to explore, and then zones, and which overlay, and of course add the icon on the map, just as Pinlight |
| 11:12.37 | VIad | I just hope the inspect API properly gets ilvl from gear on other people |
| 11:13.59 | Tomaz^W | Semlar: does foglight use the same kind of db? |
| 11:14.11 | VIad | nope |
| 11:14.37 | Semlar | no |
| 11:14.56 | Semlar | and legion changed all of the dbc files |
| 11:15.15 | Semlar | so i'd have to figure out what they did |
| 11:15.23 | Tomaz^W | *sigh* |
| 11:16.31 | Tomaz^W | Well foglight at least identifies unexplored areas? so, if one is really bored (me) one could use something like that to find all the new Legion areas? |
| 11:17.21 | VIad | you can use foglight to go explore yes |
| 11:17.22 | Semlar | i specifically made pinlight cross reference the achievements database because you don't necessarily need to unveil the entire map |
| 11:17.34 | Tomaz^W | yeah |
| 11:17.51 | Tomaz^W | I jsut mean I'd build the db manually using prints on foglight |
| 11:17.54 | Semlar | other than that, it's essentially just calculating the center of each overlay |
| 11:18.07 | Tomaz^W | Since I assume foglight replaces the same overlays? |
| 11:18.28 | Tomaz^W | So it's just a matter of finding which ones are connected to which achievement ( again, manual labor ) |
| 11:19.10 | Tomaz^W | I'll look into that after work, and just update the Legion part by hand |
| 11:21.16 | Tomaz^W | Oh, foglight also used a db |
| 11:21.56 | VIad | it's mostly just for the minimap texture |
| 11:22.10 | VIad | since it has to stitch those on properly and filepath name things |
| 11:22.21 | VIad | or the other way around, the normal map textures :p |
| 11:22.23 | Gnarfoz | VIad:Â https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/personal-loot-helper |
| 11:22.41 | VIad | yeah Gnarfoz |
| 11:22.50 | Gnarfoz | that does what you described |
| 11:23.34 | VIad | was thinking to make my own using libgroupinspect but might look at this one too |
| 11:23.52 | VIad | can you trade gear in mythic+ too? |
| 11:24.11 | VIad | raids and such? in that case it would be nice for more than just the first month of gearing :p |
| 11:24.35 | Gnarfoz | I tried fixing up https://github.com/Gnarfoz/PersonalLoot but it seems to be too incomplete to bother with. particularly the change to try and use character-realm everywhere, even though those functions take unitids... seems to have messed with it. I fixed all that locally, but now it has other errors :D |
| 11:24.53 | VIad | in my mind I was thinking, if I make such addon, so it appends the names of people eligible below the tooltip with text of potential candidates based on their ilvl on gear |
| 11:24.54 | Gnarfoz | VIad:Â it depends on if you have personal loot in use |
| 11:25.34 | Gnarfoz | well, PLH already gathers all that data, should be easy enough to add it to tooltips (except that tooltips are horrible, but, you know) |
| 11:25.41 | VIad | rogue/druid/dh best mates now then |
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| 11:25.51 | Gnarfoz | also, making it use LibGroupInspecT seems sane |
| 11:26.06 | Gnarfoz | yes, stacking armor classes is beneficial, that was clear when they announced the system ^^ |
| 11:26.13 | Gnarfoz | 5 paladins, fuck everyone else |
| 11:26.16 | Gnarfoz | also, 5 druids |
| 11:26.17 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 11:26.17 | VIad | mythic guilds should stack up :p |
| 11:26.22 | Gnarfoz | guess what: they do |
| 11:26.25 | VIad | for more efficient gearing |
| 11:26.31 | VIad | \o/ |
| 11:26.42 | VIad | tbh I don't see that as a major problem |
| 11:26.48 | Gnarfoz | see what as a problem? |
| 11:26.56 | VIad | stacking for loot sharing |
| 11:27.00 | Gnarfoz | who said it was? |
| 11:27.24 | Gnarfoz | no matter what the system is, min/maxers will do anything and everything to get the most out of it :D |
| 11:27.28 | VIad | ofc |
| 11:27.37 | VIad | 5 DH group |
| 11:27.40 | VIad | all tanks |
| 11:27.43 | VIad | who needs healers? |
| 11:27.50 | VIad | just rotate on the tanking :p |
| 11:28.08 | VIad | like constant aoe silence sigils |
| 11:28.29 | Gnarfoz | not everything can be silenced ^^ |
| 11:28.39 | Gnarfoz | particularly: most bosses |
| 11:28.54 | VIad | still got 5 interrupts, no dispells, but got magic dmg reduction hmm |
| 11:29.12 | VIad | I mean you had 4 blood 1 balance CM record in docks like 3 min run |
| 11:29.28 | VIad | so not unimaginable you could get some speed records in mythics with some weird setups |
| 11:29.44 | VIad | do mythics have a kill requirement? |
| 11:29.55 | VIad | mythic+ is like CM right? |
| 11:29.58 | VIad | timed and such |
| 11:30.02 | VIad | probably kill X of enemies too |
| 11:30.05 | Gnarfoz | not really timed, no |
| 11:30.15 | VIad | hmm, k |
| 11:30.17 | Gnarfoz | finish or not finish, I think |
| 11:30.26 | VIad | something about keystone things for + modes? |
| 11:30.30 | Gnarfoz | there might be a time limit but I don't think there's a time-based leaderbord |
| 11:30.32 | Gnarfoz | +a |
| 11:32.37 | foxlit | What's the strategy with that scenario anyway? |
| 11:32.46 | foxlit | do you just kind of clear everything and then go back to the chests? |
| 11:33.03 | Seeker` | I think mythic+ is like GR from D3 |
| 11:33.18 | VIad | I heard it was like a thing you click and use a keystone drop to get a certain difficulty |
| 11:33.19 | Seeker` | That's the impression I got anyway |
| 11:33.24 | VIad | then you had a timer to reach to get upgrade key back |
| 11:33.34 | VIad | or fail time but still get loot |
| 11:33.39 | VIad | think keystone was then lost? |
| 11:33.45 | VIad | if you made time it was upgraded |
| 11:33.59 | VIad | so I was thinking about kill requirements if time is a factor |
| 11:34.08 | VIad | or you just stealth past most and do bosses :p |
| 11:34.22 | Seeker` | I'm hoping for the latter. I suspect you'll hve to kill X trash |
| 11:34.30 | VIad | thats what I think too |
| 11:34.37 | VIad | or if blizz thinks the affixes will be enough |
| 11:34.40 | Seeker` | otherwise, druid tank + healer, 3 rogues |
| 11:35.51 | VIad | like affix: damage done onto the tank is also dealt to all other melee dps regardless of distance |
| 11:35.54 | Gnarfoz | foxlit:Â go up to 425 rep, which is the cap (not sure if that's identical to 425 score), then gather as many chests as you like. Doing the tanking yourself seems very beneficial. |
| 11:36.20 | VIad | Gnarfoz: tanking self is super OP but the damn withered likes to go closer and closer to the target... |
| 11:36.29 | VIad | so they end up inside the enemy explosion range when they die ,_, |
| 11:36.35 | Gnarfoz | well, "tanking well" is beneficial, then. |
| 11:36.56 | VIad | I had problems with my guy throwing rocks and taking a step forward all the time |
| 11:37.03 | VIad | how do you make them stand still? :p |
| 11:37.10 | Gnarfoz | use LoS to move mobs (and thus, your withered), don't put them on berserk, stun the exploding guys or make sure to blow them up before they finisht that cast |
| 11:37.24 | Gnarfoz | -t |
| 11:37.28 | VIad | need to craft something engineering for stuns probably |
| 11:37.40 | VIad | I can spec into that talent though |
| 11:37.43 | VIad | the pillar of stun |
| 11:37.57 | VIad | are all the guys inside the scenario stunnable? |
| 11:38.06 | VIad | I hate the stealth guy that goes rampage on my guys |
| 11:38.11 | VIad | the one dropping the ke |
| 11:38.13 | VIad | +y |
| 11:38.27 | Gnarfoz | well, tank him, he mostly stops being a problem |
| 11:38.31 | VIad | no |
| 11:38.44 | VIad | he likes to do a rush between the guys |
| 11:38.56 | Gnarfoz | didn't lose a single withered to him and I didn't even know he existed ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 11:38.58 | VIad | swoops everywhere, taunting dont do crap. hopefully stun will, will try it next time |
| 11:39.27 | VIad | can swap specs inside though |
| 11:39.38 | VIad | could also go dps mode when benifical if skillset is useful :p |
| 11:39.53 | VIad | the score thing, are rewards based on score? like 1000 score is legendary? |
| 11:40.48 | Gnarfoz | legendary? |
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| 11:41.07 | Gnarfoz | you get more reputation with higher score, not sure if the loot chest differs. |
| 11:41.21 | Gnarfoz | you get more chests when you send up more chests, though |
| 11:41.30 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: any benefit to completing the thing? |
| 11:41.36 | foxlit | (reaching the end) |
| 11:43.08 | Gnarfoz | foxlit:Â I'm unsure :| |
| 11:43.28 | Gnarfoz | first tries were so bad that I can't use them as a baseline |
| 11:45.04 | VIad | aha |
| 11:45.15 | VIad | I got to the end, seems it just lets you exit easily :p |
| 11:45.22 | VIad | chest there was like 5 withered req |
| 11:45.26 | VIad | nothing special |
| 11:45.31 | VIad | unsure what kind of chests I should prio |
| 11:45.49 | VIad | is it possible to loot everything if you keep all alive? :p |
| 11:45.49 | Gnarfoz | small chests are free, middle give stuff for you, big ones give stuff for your army |
| 11:45.56 | VIad | good good |
| 11:45.58 | VIad | big once are good then |
| 11:46.02 | nevcairiel | middle also has a few army things |
| 11:46.03 | VIad | allows for more efficient farm later |
| 11:46.12 | VIad | big = 10 guys right? |
| 11:46.18 | Gnarfoz | it does? wowhead gave me a different impression, maybe I didn't read until the end |
| 11:46.31 | Gnarfoz | yes, small = 0, middle = 5, big = 10 |
| 11:46.47 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=43943/withered-army-training#comments:id=2352964 has a list, hmhm |
| 11:46.59 | nevcairiel | i got 2 big and 2 middle and i got a berserker, a hidden chest tracker hat, and a less-fear modifier from 3 of them |
| 11:47.00 | Gnarfoz | ah, all the big ones are just mob upgrades |
| 11:47.01 | nevcairiel | 4th had AP |
| 11:47.05 | Gnarfoz | the general upgrades are in the middle ones |
| 11:47.58 | Gnarfoz | I have a bunch of mana-ragers now, guess I'll pick up some middle chests this time around |
| 11:48.46 | Gnarfoz | can probably wait to grab 2 berskers for those doors that require them, just big-ass bosses behind them anyway :D |
| 11:48.53 | Gnarfoz | but today I can start with max amount of withered |
| 11:49.21 | nevcairiel | i did the last one with 20 withered already, sure makes the small thigns easier |
| 11:49.33 | nevcairiel | like the mana wraith thingys just flat out die without any issues |
| 11:50.09 | Gnarfoz | no stun necessary? I guess |
| 11:50.17 | nevcairiel | one kick, no stun |
| 11:50.32 | foxlit | the comment seems to suggest that specific chests have specific things in them |
| 11:50.36 | VIad | how many types of withered are there? |
| 11:50.38 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 11:50.45 | VIad | and is there a clear type that is superior? |
| 11:50.49 | nevcairiel | they also dont respawn so you can go for the things yo uwant |
| 11:50.57 | foxlit | dammit default ui, you should tell me what's inside the chest! |
| 11:51.34 | VIad | wait |
| 11:51.37 | VIad | if you get 2 berserkers |
| 11:51.43 | VIad | wont they be there if they die next time around? |
| 11:51.52 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowhead.com/guides/suramar#withered-army-training has maps |
| 11:52.33 | nevcairiel | all ugprades are permanent |
| 11:52.39 | VIad | good good |
| 11:52.42 | nevcairiel | if you get two zerker hats, you will always start with two zerkers |
| 11:53.10 | nevcairiel | i got a zerker and a spellseeker now, so i see the ehidden chests |
| 11:53.10 | VIad | so like |
| 11:53.18 | VIad | the goal is to get all the chests with the upgrades |
| 11:53.24 | VIad | so you can do the final bosses :p |
| 11:54.23 | nevcairiel | unfortunately the second zerker helmet is hidden behind the damn dryad boss |
| 11:54.25 | nevcairiel | i hate her |
| 11:54.32 | foxlit | But she's so nice? |
| 11:54.54 | VIad | seems like all bosses are stunnable |
| 11:55.00 | nevcairiel | they are |
| 11:55.01 | VIad | so having stuns can save your guys :d |
| 11:55.04 | nevcairiel | but my stun is long cooldown :( |
| 11:55.08 | VIad | :( |
| 11:55.12 | VIad | paladin? |
| 11:55.16 | nevcairiel | druid |
| 11:55.20 | foxlit | I mean, the only real mechanic on her is "run away with the debuff" |
| 11:55.45 | nevcairiel | i do that, but either the debuff is much bigger then the area affect makes it appear, or she does some other random aoe damage that kills my guys |
| 11:57.24 | foxlit | penalty for being a fat bear? |
| 11:57.31 | nevcairiel | :( |
| 11:57.35 | nevcairiel | i'm a moving stone! |
| 11:58.18 | VIad | spider wing is super easy for druid then |
| 11:58.21 | VIad | spam that swipe |
| 11:58.26 | nevcairiel | spiders are easy indeed |
| 11:58.31 | VIad | DH not too bad too with immolation aoe |
| 11:58.33 | nevcairiel | presumably the spider boss is also not quite dangerous |
| 11:58.36 | VIad | nah |
| 11:58.37 | nevcairiel | didnt try |
| 11:58.43 | nevcairiel | i tried the elfbreaker guy |
| 11:58.47 | nevcairiel | he killed all my guys |
| 11:58.51 | foxlit | Those are ridiculous amounts of spiders, though |
| 11:58.56 | VIad | elf guy is like |
| 11:58.57 | VIad | stun gallore |
| 11:59.02 | VIad | so he dont kill your guys |
| 11:59.05 | VIad | so dps there is good :p |
| 11:59.11 | VIad | make your guys go berserk mode |
| 11:59.13 | nevcairiel | more stuns would help, but one every 50 seconds.. |
| 11:59.18 | VIad | you could skip him first and go spider |
| 11:59.23 | VIad | then go back and do him without spiderlings |
| 11:59.31 | VIad | if your guys get distracted on the spiderlings |
| 11:59.47 | nevcairiel | yeah i'm mostly after farming rep and the chests, and i can do that without him so far |
| 11:59.52 | nevcairiel | when i run out of chests i might try again |
| 12:00.16 | VIad | kind of shame |
| 12:00.20 | VIad | if the bosses dont give crap |
| 12:00.23 | VIad | and just are in the way :/ |
| 12:00.26 | nevcairiel | yeah not even score |
| 12:00.29 | VIad | elf guy is then totally skippable |
| 12:00.31 | nevcairiel | they just stand in front of chests and shit |
| 12:01.03 | VIad | in the main room |
| 12:01.14 | VIad | trick is probably to find a way to kite bosses to it and make your guys evade stuck |
| 12:01.17 | VIad | and just kill boss solo |
| 12:01.20 | VIad | keep all guys alive :p |
| 12:01.31 | nevcairiel | if they truely evade they vanish and you get kicked out |
| 12:01.41 | VIad | hmm |
| 12:02.57 | nevcairiel | a guildy had that happern as he struggled with dro as a dps class |
| 12:03.39 | VIad | find a way to get party member TP to you |
| 12:03.43 | VIad | so he clears for you xD |
| 12:04.22 | VIad | but it sounds like upgrades are fixed |
| 12:04.29 | VIad | so in the end all of us are the same army? |
| 12:04.33 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 12:04.36 | VIad | it's not like you can get 20 berserkers |
| 12:04.38 | nevcairiel | if you can get to all the chests |
| 12:04.41 | VIad | yeah |
| 12:04.49 | VIad | then I'll focus to get the upgrades I didn't get |
| 12:05.01 | VIad | and eventually I'll be able to start to focus to farm rep efficiently |
| 12:05.13 | nevcairiel | getting max rep isnt hard as it is |
| 12:05.25 | nevcairiel | just need 400 score or so |
| 12:05.29 | Gnarfoz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19enCcKtCo4 is interesting (one of the videos linked in the wowhead comment I linked earlier)... just marches straight on through, not even giving his withered time to catch up (I guess this way they wont die to as much stuff) |
| 12:05.43 | Gnarfoz | kind of motivates me to do it as ret instead of prot |
| 12:05.59 | nevcairiel | i dunno, i aoe stronger then most dps classes |
| 12:06.02 | nevcairiel | as a tank |
| 12:06.05 | Gnarfoz | don't really want to risk it this early, though... guess I can always do that later. also the video doesn't indicate what kind of upgrades they had |
| 12:06.35 | nevcairiel | he at least has two zerkers and one spell caster |
| 12:06.40 | nevcairiel | two casters |
| 12:06.56 | nevcairiel | so probably maxed out |
| 12:07.12 | Gnarfoz | the damage numbers look a bit higher than I recall, too |
| 12:07.12 | foxlit | AoE isn't terribly improtant, though |
| 12:07.34 | nevcairiel | and it feels like he has the upgrade to make his withered focus better |
| 12:07.36 | Gnarfoz | yeah, burst and being able to aggro things seems to be more relevant |
| 12:07.42 | Gnarfoz | yeah, stuff just melts |
| 12:08.00 | Gnarfoz | in any case, guildie just said he tried getting more than 499 score on live after sending up all the chests he could afford |
| 12:08.17 | Gnarfoz | was left with 4 withered and ran around trying to get more score but was stuck at 499 |
| 12:08.33 | nevcairiel | not like you get anything for more s core |
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| 12:09.31 | Gnarfoz | yeah, just testing |
| 12:09.43 | Gnarfoz | that speed run up there also only achieved 327 score |
| 12:09.50 | Gnarfoz | and got about three fiddy rep for it |
| 12:09.58 | nevcairiel | sounds about right |
| 12:10.05 | nevcairiel | you need like 375-400 score or so for max |
| 12:10.24 | Gnarfoz | I'll stick with tanking it and doing it slow and safe for a couple of runs, still |
| 12:10.41 | nevcairiel | yeah definitely want the general withered upgrades and a few mroe special guys |
| 12:10.48 | nevcairiel | more life, hp, and focus arer reyll useful |
| 12:10.51 | nevcairiel | really* |
| 12:10.52 | Gnarfoz | (ret might be better because it can reduce stun cooldown) |
| 12:11.03 | Gnarfoz | :shrug: |
| 12:11.07 | nevcairiel | life and dps, not twice hp :p |
| 12:11.12 | Gnarfoz | as long as I manage to get the max rep out of it |
| 12:11.20 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 12:11.42 | Gnarfoz | their web team must be asleep |
| 12:11.54 | Gnarfoz | armory still stuck on ~wednesday |
| 12:12.31 | Gnarfoz | probably busy finishing the new app's API or something, if those are even the same people |
| 12:12.49 | Gnarfoz | shame that the actual armory app is withing (heh) away while they're putting out the new one |
| 12:12.58 | Gnarfoz | *withering, god damnit |
| 12:13.24 | Gnarfoz | 16h of Legion per day for 6 days might have left some marks :P |
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| 12:14.24 | nevcairiel | are you trying to say 4 days of played on max level isnt a good thing? |
| 12:14.45 | Gnarfoz | definitely fun :P |
| 12:15.39 | VIad | I need to go to other work after this work, I want to play my withered :( |
| 12:25.41 | ls- | yeah, withered army is quite entertaining :D |
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| 12:39.48 | VIad | getting 2k stuff to make it viable is sadly a bit of farm :p |
| 12:41.58 | ls- | pffft |
| 12:42.55 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 12:43.04 | Gnarfoz | that takes 10 minutes tops |
| 12:43.10 | Gnarfoz | Twilight vineyards or bust |
| 12:43.36 | Gnarfoz | arcwine, books, leypetal dust, leypetal flowers |
| 12:43.41 | Gnarfoz | it's stupidly quick |
| 12:44.04 | Gnarfoz | I should really get rid of my manaseeker shoulder enchant, kind of pointless (ok, I get enchanting mats) |
| 12:48.35 | Hazal | When does information get saved to WTF files, on reload, logout or exit ? |
| 12:49.22 | VIad | Hazal: /reload logout and exit yes |
| 12:49.26 | VIad | but not if you altf4 |
| 12:49.30 | znf | All of them |
| 12:49.40 | VIad | console quit|exit should save too |
| 12:49.48 | VIad | better alternative than altf4 |
| 12:50.02 | VIad | altf4 is nice if you specifically dont want to store stuff you messed up your session :p |
| 12:51.03 | Hazal | Is it the same for all the savedvars or would you have to logout for the acc wide savedvars to save? |
| 12:51.16 | VIad | same for all |
| 12:51.20 | Hazal | Allright, thanks |
| 12:51.33 | VIad | Gnarfoz: would it depends if you play on a server where everyone farms the same area? |
| 12:51.55 | Gnarfoz | stuff is sharded now anyway, not sure how much that plays into it |
| 12:52.12 | Gnarfoz | just go there and find out? :D |
| 12:52.44 | VIad | 2000 is a lot though |
| 12:52.57 | VIad | loot 40 stuffs if you get 50 each |
| 12:53.03 | Gnarfoz | you get way more than that. |
| 12:53.08 | VIad | oh? |
| 12:53.18 | Gnarfoz | I spent 1000 last night on the lunchbox and had those back in under 5 minutes |
| 12:53.22 | VIad | hmm |
| 12:53.29 | Gnarfoz | twice-fortified arcwine, and the others I listed above |
| 12:53.44 | Gnarfoz | vineyards is ancient mana paradise |
| 12:53.56 | Gnarfoz | (I think they might nerf it sooner or later) |
| 12:53.59 | VIad | trackable I assume |
| 12:54.11 | Gnarfoz | you get a tracking item from Thalryssa? |
| 12:54.14 | VIad | yes |
| 12:54.17 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 12:54.18 | VIad | or I had one quite early |
| 12:54.34 | VIad | but you get access quite late in the story so weird why they'd nerf it |
| 12:55.22 | Gnarfoz | quite late? that was like, day 2 |
| 12:55.41 | Gnarfoz | I guess if you're not focused on progressing the main line, you might get sidetracked more |
| 12:55.44 | nebula | vineyards is honored |
| 12:55.53 | nebula | so pretty early |
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| 13:03.27 | VIad | I just did quests in suramar |
| 13:03.35 | VIad | hoping I'd progress the rep regardless |
| 13:03.47 | VIad | I recently got honored, and got to do vine bit earlier |
| 13:04.00 | VIad | atm missing 3 chapters in the zone |
| 13:04.10 | VIad | think I read those are rleated to the dungeons and raid |
| 13:19.47 | Gnarfoz | the side quests don't give rep, so don't hold your breath |
| 13:20.06 | Gnarfoz | (two of them unlock world quests, though) |
| 13:20.28 | VIad | I was like, blizz were so open with everything else, so I just blindly trusted them and just did whatever in suramar |
| 13:20.31 | VIad | was fun ofc :p |
| 13:20.43 | VIad | just shame aside of lore it had no rep benefits for the long run |
| 13:20.44 | Seeker` | what, what? You do things in this game for *fun*?! |
| 13:20.59 | Seeker` | That doesn't sound right |
| 13:21.02 | Gnarfoz | his fun is marred by the lack of an immediate reward, as you can see |
| 13:21.04 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 13:21.12 | Gnarfoz | should get that looked at! :D |
| 13:21.32 | VIad | I mean doing stuff in suramar should benefit the faction regardless |
| 13:21.49 | VIad | kind of weard doing the rep farm run scenario is worth more than life saving and changing side quests :p |
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| 13:41.48 | VIad | would you recommend buying this? http://www.brother.co.uk/Printers/Mono-Laser-Printers/MFC-L5700DN |
| 13:41.56 | VIad | small office type use |
| 13:42.05 | VIad | I suck at evaluating printer things |
| 14:10.38 | VIad | pesky rats! https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/771484262730084352 |
| 14:10.59 | VIad | TheDanW: did you write that? |
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| 14:42.46 | _Kee | Do you maybe know what happens if I have already 30 nameplates shown and 31th appears? |
| 14:43.11 | _Kee | is it ignored, takes place of 1st one or� |
| 14:43.19 | foxlit | wish Dreamway map zoomed out to Dreamgrove or something. |
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| 15:03.59 | Kesava | is there an api for checking if a mob can see stealth or some such? |
| 15:04.05 | Kesava | (i'm pretty sure there isn't) |
| 15:07.26 | Gnarfoz | _Kee:Â there's 40 nameplates now, and I don't know the answer, either. |
| 15:07.38 | Gnarfoz | the world probably explodes |
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| 15:17.46 | _Kee | Ah, I see. well, thanks, Gnarfoz |
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| 15:29.56 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/QoH77K1.jpg |
| 15:29.57 | znf | lol |
| 15:30.33 | Funkeh` | what is that meant to be referencing |
| 15:31.25 | kullervo | they explode? |
| 15:32.49 | Funkeh` | oh... |
| 15:32.56 | haste | the battery at least |
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| 15:44.36 | karl_w_w | they are extremely dangerous and may attack at any time |
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| 15:45.44 | znf | I'm very jelly of tanks in the Withered scenario |
| 15:45.50 | znf | only because of that Leystalker guy |
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| 15:46.04 | znf | I can't keep him stunned or taunt him in any way as a priest |
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| 15:46.09 | znf | my stun is 40s :-/ |
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| 15:53.55 | znf | We are hereby notifying you that, after a recent review of your account |
| 15:53.55 | znf | activity, it has been determined that you are in violation of PayPal's |
| 15:53.55 | znf | Acceptable Use Policy regarding your transactions. |
| 15:53.58 | znf | well, fuck you, too |
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| 15:56.33 | nevcairiel_ | did you buy illegal things? |
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| 16:02.28 | MuffinPvEHero | No profession world quests showing makes me a sad muffin (and leatherworker) |
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| 16:08.39 | fewyn | it's a bug MuffinPvEHero |
| 16:08.45 | fewyn | they are still there |
| 16:08.49 | fewyn | just not showing up on the map |
| 16:08.58 | MuffinPvEHero | I know, that doesn't help me though |
| 16:09.22 | fewyn | http://www.wowhead.com/world-quests/na |
| 16:09.31 | fewyn | try that? |
| 16:09.57 | fewyn | wait that doesn't show them either |
| 16:10.10 | MuffinPvEHero | it was only showing like 1 mining quest last night |
| 16:10.32 | foxlit | just some extra motivation to get the app |
| 16:10.33 | MuffinPvEHero | my issue is that they changed how Felhide Sample quest starts, you get the drop from skinning the mob for the first Felhide world quest you do |
| 16:11.02 | MuffinPvEHero | the profession quests on that map only show if someone accidentally comes across it that runs the app |
| 16:12.17 | AcidWeb | foxlit: Honor talents appear in spellbook in pvp zones |
| 16:12.52 | foxlit | I feel like Alice. |
| 16:13.58 | foxlit | so you should be able to add them to rings while in pvp zones? |
| 16:25.03 | Seeker` | I use broker worldquests, and it doesn't seem to show profession WQs (even though it has the option to display them) |
| 16:25.55 | Sharparam | hm, so the return from C_Garrison.GetFollowerStatus(followerID) is localized? |
| 16:28.16 | Sharparam | anyone on a non-english client able to check by running /dump C_Garrison.GetFollowerStatus(C_Garrison.GetFollowers()[1].followerID) ? |
| 16:32.20 | znf | nevcairiel, Gnarfoz_ - did you get the "The Battle Rages On" quest in Suramar? |
| 16:32.28 | znf | I only got Air Superiority |
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| 16:34.10 | nevcairiel | itsz probably another of those thats only available for people without quest progress |
| 16:34.30 | znf | Oh. |
| 16:39.10 | znf | Is anyone else losing their bodyguard randomly? |
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| 16:43.24 | Gnarfoz | Alram: any chance you'll update newmaps to live build data? |
| 16:43.56 | Alram | it is on my miles long to do list |
| 16:44.06 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 16:44.09 | Alram | i have to do everything manually because blizzard hates me |
| 16:44.13 | Gnarfoz | or do you know a similar site that does it |
| 16:44.28 | Gnarfoz | wyrimaps is outdated~ |
| 16:45.34 | Alram | i can theoretically do it tonight |
| 16:45.39 | Alram | except for adt data |
| 16:45.41 | Alram | that shit is fubar |
| 16:45.49 | Gnarfoz | don't worry about it mate |
| 16:45.53 | Gnarfoz | :D no stress |
| 16:46.00 | Alram | what do you need |
| 16:46.18 | Gnarfoz | nothing in particular, I was looking for something in Val'sharah and noticed it's still one some beta build |
| 16:47.16 | Gnarfoz | (we noticed that Highmountain and Stormheim both have 2 Warden towers, Val'sharah seems to only have 1... was looking if that's actually true and we weren't just oblivious to a second one) |
| 16:48.29 | Sharparam | hmm, in WoD. your own bodyguard had their actual name (like Vivianne), and others saw it as "Battle Mage" or something. i think in legion i saw another player's broll bodyguard as simply "Broll Bearmantle", is that correct? |
| 16:48.44 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: valsharah also has two, one is positioning wrong in the WQ |
| 16:48.52 | Alram | it should also be generalized Sharparam |
| 16:48.55 | Sharparam | oh |
| 16:48.58 | Sharparam | that's good then |
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| 16:49.59 | Sharparam | now the only real issue is the seemingly localized return from GetFollowerStatus. is there some other function i'm missing to find out the status of a follower? (specifically, to find out if they are assigned as combat ally) |
| 16:54.10 | Sharparam | initial tests are promising: http://rfl.im/SA |
| 16:54.31 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: no way >_> that's exactly what we were researching, because we couldn't figure out how those pvp world quests rotate... is the second one NW of black rook hold? |
| 16:54.45 | Gnarfoz | like, here? https://newmaps.marlam.in/Troll%20Raid/126/7/-18.168/15.172 |
| 16:56.11 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 16:56.58 | nevcairiel | starstalkers point or something |
| 16:57.01 | nevcairiel | approach from the water side |
| 16:59.58 | nevcairiel | from what we could tell, it just switches every 3 hours between the two in one zone |
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| 17:02.30 | Sharparam | either i'm missing something in combatlog filters or it doesn't tell you when broll dies |
| 17:04.13 | Sharparam | it also didn't say (X overkill) on the monster's last hit on him |
| 17:08.23 | Thunder_Child | Senagos's Little area of Azsuna is making me oddly nostalgic for Tiberium. |
| 17:19.12 | znf | "You have been removed from the group" |
| 17:19.15 | znf | Fucking LFG shit |
| 17:19.24 | znf | I'm sick of tanks acting like princesses |
| 17:19.26 | nevcairiel | stop sucking |
| 17:19.30 | nevcairiel | i've only had good groups |
| 17:19.41 | znf | I somehow manage to get princess tanks |
| 17:19.47 | znf | I say, "let's skip half the trash" |
| 17:19.57 | znf | tank goes and pulls all the trash at the start of EoA |
| 17:20.44 | Seeker` | I have no idea why groups are so fond of pulling trash |
| 17:20.47 | Sharparam | hm, there are two global strings that contain "Combat Ally", ORDER_HALL_ZONE_SUPPORT and GARRISON_FOLLOWER_COMBAT_ALLY |
| 17:21.00 | Seeker` | I'm trying to beat it out of tanks in my guild |
| 17:21.06 | znf | I say, "please don't move the boss for the first 20s" |
| 17:21.09 | Sharparam | i wonder which one is best used for the return |
| 17:21.11 | znf | so I can use the trinket and burn half of it |
| 17:21.17 | znf | he goes and moves |
| 17:21.25 | znf | I told him, pull this trash before the boss |
| 17:21.26 | znf | ignores me |
| 17:21.37 | Sharparam | the tekkub repo for global strings hasn't been updated since 6.0.2, is there a newer one? |
| 17:21.39 | znf | he pulls the trash during boss |
| 17:21.48 | znf | (the blows that slow you down at lady boss in EoA) |
| 17:21.56 | znf | ofcourse, we get slown down, he dies |
| 17:22.02 | znf | then I get removed from the group for pointing out shit |
| 17:22.03 | znf | ... |
| 17:22.11 | Seeker` | znf: lucky. I get tanks that keep all mobs still no matter what. Cleaving mob that's standing in a poison pool? Keep it exactly where it is. Then the healer complains about the rogue taking so much damage... |
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| 17:27.42 | Alram | Gnarfoz, updated |
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| 17:28.18 | foxlit | Seeker`: as a healer, I give you permission to ignore the damage meters, move out of the damage, and spam rude emotes at the tank until he repositions the mobs. |
| 17:28.49 | Gnarfoz | Alram: you da man :) |
| 17:28.58 | Seeker` | It's not the damage meters I'm concerned about, it's killing the boss sometime this week :P |
| 17:29.43 | znf | I'm really not sure what the hell is this community crap about tanks and healers being revered as princesses |
| 17:29.51 | Ressy | I had issues with Cordana. Group didn't want to soak the 200k poison on the floor, so it would spread everywhere, and then they'd be running through it all.. ugh. |
| 17:29.51 | foxlit | we more or less tank+healer'ed heroic Odin for the daily heroic today. |
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| 17:30.11 | znf | I mean, it could be the worst tank in history |
| 17:30.20 | znf | group will still stick to their random assigned tank |
| 17:30.27 | Seeker` | I was in a pug doing Cordana yesterday. I had to spam "soak puddle" every 20 seconds or so for the entire fight |
| 17:30.32 | Ressy | lol |
| 17:30.53 | Ressy | And then the dps didn't want to switch to the adds, so couldn't figure out why there was a 99% reduced dmg buff on the boss. |
| 17:31.02 | Seeker` | The guy with the light ran to it for 2 seconds, then went back to dpsing the boss. It didn't clear the puddle, so it kept growing, so he had to go back again |
| 17:31.11 | foxlit | so, poll time: who gets the light on Cordana? |
| 17:31.15 | Seeker` | about 10 times for the same puddle |
| 17:31.19 | Seeker` | foxlit: a dps with a clue |
| 17:31.22 | znf | Item Level 841 (Equipped 835) |
| 17:31.23 | znf | :-( |
| 17:31.35 | Ressy | As a healer, I had to pick it up and run it because the dps were idiots and nobody would. |
| 17:31.47 | foxlit | I keep advocating healers do it. |
| 17:32.11 | Seeker` | ideally a hunter would do it |
| 17:32.20 | foxlit | Not like they have anything else to do; dps running around soaking puddles is a waste. |
| 17:33.22 | Seeker` | Definitely not a dps that cares more about topping the meters than finishing the fight. Anyone but that. |
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| 17:33.46 | Seeker` | but then again, they should be permabanned from the game |
| 17:34.15 | Seeker` | I hate to think how many decades of time has been wasted by people doing that |
| 17:34.51 | foxlit | psst, 7.2: combat log events no longer fire during combat. Instead, you may register a callback to receive events from the fight once it ends. |
| 17:40.10 | MuffinPvEHero | O.o |
| 17:40.15 | MuffinPvEHero | so no more live logging? |
| 17:40.40 | Ressy | Well, can't cause lag now.. |
| 17:40.50 | MuffinPvEHero | heh indeed |
| 17:40.53 | foxlit | maybe I should've said 8.1. |
| 17:41.01 | Gnarfoz | live logging doesn't use the in-game combatlog |
| 17:41.04 | Seerah | foxlit: you were too believable |
| 17:44.28 | foxlit | It's not an entirely terrible idea: you break most of those pesky boss mods, mitigate some addon-induced performance issues, and stop people from looking at damage meters unless there's an actual problem. |
| 17:44.56 | nevcairiel | you also break a whole lot of other addons |
| 17:45.45 | foxlit | Besides boss-assists and damage meters, what else actually looks at the combat log? |
| 17:51.54 | nevcairiel | it makes a lot of things like dot tracking etc much easier |
| 17:54.37 | Fisker | Make wow great again |
| 17:58.08 | Sharparam | <foxlit> [...] what else actually looks at the combat log? |
| 17:58.11 | Sharparam | my bodyguard addon :P |
| 18:07.33 | foxlit | But we've established that I don't need to see Broll's health bar! |
| 18:09.30 | Xuerian | I'm still of the opinion that fights could be made more difficult by including more active movement that addons won't really help with in the first place. Though I guess that's also a little unfair to castbar-heavy specs |
| 18:09.53 | Sharparam | foxlit: not everyone are bodyguard-hating monsters like yourself who makes it their pleasure to watch their bodyguard die over and over :P |
| 18:10.05 | Sharparam | oh so many grammar mistakes in that message |
| 18:14.34 | kullervo | Xuerian: Just make the movement requirement slower or sparse far away from the boss |
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| 18:32.30 | Thunder_Child | Or add in an ability that lets you move while casting like the talented blink. It makes the classes a bit more of a skill, but I'm not opposed to that. |
| 18:49.47 | fewyn | i hate falling down into places where i can get back up |
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| 19:07.59 | Semlar | why can't i put an engineering bag inside of an engineering bag |
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| 19:40.44 | Thunder_Child | The same things that happens if you turn a bag of holding insideout while it is inside another bag of holding. |
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| 20:32.09 | fewyn | god another microusb cable bit the dust |
| 20:33.34 | VIad1 | Semlar_: odyn http://ss.bool.no/capture_1473107607.png |
| 20:33.37 | VIad1 | I are tank :3 |
| 20:33.59 | VIad1 | wait wrong |
| 20:34.18 | VIad1 | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1473107654.png |
| 20:34.19 | VIad1 | right one :p |
| 20:34.35 | VIad1 | somehow I get in damage after encounter ends and it shows it in its own segment |
| 20:35.09 | VIad1 | also I am the DH not monk |
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| 20:42.22 | VIad1 | didn't the legion app launch today? |
| 20:42.28 | VIad1 | maybe its tomorrow for me |
| 20:43.31 | Gnarfoz | tuesday |
| 20:44.03 | VIad1 | so in 1h15m? |
| 20:44.10 | VIad1 | for me :p |
| 20:44.14 | Gnarfoz | it's Blizzard, what is your guess? |
| 20:44.20 | VIad1 | legion launched midnight |
| 20:44.26 | VIad1 | even 10 min earlier for me |
| 20:44.29 | VIad1 | so it could happen |
| 20:44.30 | Gnarfoz | yes, as usual |
| 20:44.41 | Gnarfoz | but I doubt they're going to do a region-based launch for an app. :P |
| 20:44.47 | VIad1 | :D |
| 20:45.30 | karl_w_w | you too fewyn? I've had 2 cables die in a month and another one looks like it's going to let go |
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| 20:50.10 | Mr_Rabies | can you automatically delete your hearthstone without a hardware event? |
| 20:50.36 | Sharparam | it can be done with regular items so i think so? |
| 20:50.51 | Mr_Rabies | ah yeah, i just added it to my junk list in scrap |
| 20:50.55 | Sharparam | i used to have a script that would auto-delete trash from my bags when farming herbs |
| 20:50.58 | Mr_Rabies | it'll delete it when i go to a vendor at least |
| 20:51.07 | Mr_Rabies | i'm okay with that |
| 20:51.12 | Mr_Rabies | i've got the innkeeper's daughter so |
| 20:51.25 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really need a hearthstone anymore on any chars |
| 20:51.41 | Sharparam | i bind mine to the current questing area |
| 20:51.45 | Sharparam | i have yet to make use of it :P |
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| 21:03.24 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/UCIAOWn.png |
| 21:03.27 | znf | this feels like an overkill |
| 21:04.47 | nevcairiel | you should get the roc feather glider, its awesome |
| 21:05.08 | znf | isn't that a 10min CD? |
| 21:05.15 | nevcairiel | 2min |
| 21:05.19 | nevcairiel | lower then goblin gliders |
| 21:05.37 | nevcairiel | and a account wide toy |
| 21:05.39 | znf | oh |
| 21:05.42 | nevcairiel | so awesome when leveling the second char |
| 21:05.43 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 21:05.52 | znf | I'm missing just one feather |
| 21:05.57 | znf | was too lazy to go out of my way to buy it |
| 21:06.02 | znf | erm, kill it |
| 21:07.54 | znf | some guildie said it was 10min CD |
| 21:07.59 | znf | was it always 2min? or they hotfixed it? |
| 21:08.29 | znf | I should also go buy the launch-in-the-air toy |
| 21:09.40 | nevcairiel | dunno if it changed, was 2min ever since i hjad it |
| 21:09.58 | znf | Stanzilla knows for sure |
| 21:12.21 | pompy1 | znf: http://www.wowhead.com/item=131811/rocfeather-skyhorn-kite#comments:id=2387459 |
| 21:13.33 | Stanzilla | was alaways 2min afaik |
| 21:15.17 | znf | mkay, maybe he was wrong |
| 21:29.39 | znf | Hmm |
| 21:29.51 | znf | I thought chest +AP items aren't affected by AK research % |
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| 21:46.47 | Sharparam | znf: they are when you obtain them, but do not continue to scale as you increase research, i think? |
| 21:47.05 | Sharparam | so when you get an AP item it will scale to your current research level but stay there |
| 21:48.18 | znf | on beta I remember them not scaling at all |
| 21:48.55 | Sharparam | i have no research yet so can't say for sure :P but i think i read in the wowhead guide that they do scale |
| 21:49.08 | znf | then it's a waste of XP to get the chests :-| |
| 21:49.20 | Sharparam | hm? |
| 21:49.27 | Sharparam | oh |
| 21:49.40 | Sharparam | maybe, you should verify it first, i may be lying :P |
| 21:49.48 | Sharparam | unintentionally, of course |
| 21:50.53 | foxlit | Nah, chest tokens scale. |
| 21:51.06 | foxlit | But they're pathetic to begin with, so you shouldn't care. |
| 21:53.12 | foxlit | (and everything snapshots research level at acquisition, so holding on to unused tokens just wastes inventory space) |
| 21:54.24 | foxlit | (one thing that /doesn't/ scale is the call-to-arms BoA bonus tokens: I guess they couldn't figure out whose research level to snapshot.) |
| 21:57.46 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/wooHAQT.png |
| 21:57.47 | znf | :-( |
| 22:02.47 | foxlit | yeah. |
| 22:04.47 | foxlit | I guess the point is to provide you with a slow resource->gold sinnk. |
| 22:05.11 | Trela | Is that gold from order hall missions? |
| 22:05.29 | foxlit | yes |
| 22:05.32 | Trela | If it is... fucking Garrisons 2.0. |
| 22:05.45 | znf | it's not to that extent |
| 22:05.46 | foxlit | no. |
| 22:05.50 | znf | you don't have followers that can boost your gold earned |
| 22:06.12 | Trela | Hence "2.0". |
| 22:07.22 | foxlit | out of interest, if there was no gold rewards... |
| 22:07.35 | foxlit | would it not still be Garrisons 2.0? |
| 22:08.17 | nevcairiel | people see three missions with low gold rewards and get all outraged for nothing |
| 22:08.34 | VIad1 | class halls = garrison 2.0 |
| 22:08.57 | nevcairiel | VIad1 = guy who cant spell 7.2 |
| 22:09.29 | Trela | It is, more or less. Just with more real people wandering around that are not there to interact with you. |
| 22:09.40 | VIad1 | they are your followers |
| 22:09.43 | VIad1 | you are their leader |
| 22:09.57 | Trela | ?_? |
| 22:10.09 | Trela | I can't tell the person playing the rogue next to me to go do something in the world... |
| 22:12.53 | VIad1 | karl_w_w: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MluQ9SjOC24&t=8m5s |
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| 22:29.02 | znf | I see you're casting Void Torrent... it would be a shame... if someone would... push you back |
| 22:30.02 | Andols | VIad1: Way to long buildup in that clip... |
| 22:31.26 | znf | Stanzilla, does Fenryr's "Lick Wounds" actually does something? |
| 22:31.35 | znf | ie: is there any point in rushing to the 2nd part of the fight? |
| 22:32.02 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 22:38.19 | foxlit | are mythic locks loot-only, or will it actually block you from the instance? |
| 22:41.54 | Stanzilla | loot |
| 22:42.59 | foxlit | gr, narrow hallways and gentle slopes |
| 22:44.35 | foxlit | Stanzilla: how about quest loot? :) |
| 22:44.48 | Stanzilla | doesnt drop either |
| 22:44.53 | Stanzilla | (we tried) |
| 22:45.18 | foxlit | pity. But then again, still have to wait for raids |
| 22:49.32 | znf | Stanzilla, |
| 22:49.33 | znf | [01:48:37] Xal'atath whispers: Odyn was a great enemy... until his own arrogance proved his undoing. You should ask him if he has considered Loken's final words to him. Go ahead! |
| 22:49.35 | znf | yeah, don't do that |
| 22:50.04 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 22:50.04 | VIad1 | nevcairiel: did the scenario and had 50 withered |
| 22:50.19 | VIad1 | 577 score atm |
| 22:51.05 | nevcairiel | i always stop when i hit the cap for rep |
| 22:51.13 | VIad1 | darkmoon in town, remember to wear the hats! |
| 22:56.04 | VIad1 | nevcairiel: how do you quickly exit? |
| 22:56.52 | Gnarfoz | use up your withered by picking up chests |
| 22:57.01 | znf | https://linge-ma.ws/odyn.mp4 |
| 22:57.07 | Gnarfoz | or just walz to the end if you have 50 withered :P |
| 22:57.14 | VIad1 | I got 2 left |
| 22:57.21 | VIad1 | I went back to loot big chests |
| 22:57.22 | VIad1 | :p |
| 22:57.39 | VIad1 | practically got all the big chests in this one run |
| 22:57.52 | VIad1 | full clear, backtraced to big chests |
| 22:58.50 | znf | I seriously hate you guys for being tanks |
| 22:58.58 | znf | meanwhile we can't heal our withered |
| 22:59.17 | VIad1 | 601 score :d |
| 22:59.24 | VIad1 | sorry znf |
| 23:00.17 | Gnarfoz | just run ahead and burst everything down, the withered are slow |
| 23:00.18 | nevcairiel | if you really want to get just out, set them to aggressive and run a way |
| 23:00.19 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:00.21 | nevcairiel | they then despawn |
| 23:00.58 | nevcairiel | i did that to my last one today |
| 23:01.05 | VIad1 | xD |
| 23:01.06 | nevcairiel | was too lazy to get hjim killed somewhere or something |
| 23:01.28 | VIad1 | no mobs left to kill them at |
| 23:01.56 | VIad1 | got a champion gear, mission chance increase by 15% |
| 23:02.00 | VIad1 | dunno if thats that good but |
| 23:02.21 | VIad1 | got a mana basin toy |
| 23:02.38 | VIad1 | and a spider egg toy |
| 23:03.08 | VIad1 | 467 rep and the withered I was missing |
| 23:03.33 | VIad1 | the scenario thing was hidden from my map |
| 23:03.38 | VIad1 | went there and it popped up :/ |
| 23:03.39 | VIad1 | by chance |
| 23:03.44 | VIad1 | I'd be in bed an hour ago otherwise |
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| 23:11.32 | Semlar_ | i swear there was a cvar or an api function that controlled how much quest POIs were spread out if they were going to overlap on the map, but i can't find it now |
| 23:14.34 | Semlar | found it |
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| 23:16.39 | Semlar | it's a cvar called POIShiftComplete |
| 23:28.04 | znf | Stanzilla, why are pvp-quest captains sometimes grey? |
| 23:28.33 | Stanzilla | ¯_(ã)_/¯ |
| 23:30.02 | znf | Someone needs to make a macro/small-addon that uses up all artifact power items |
| 23:31.12 | pompy1 | why? they are already grouped up in your bags, just spam click |
| 23:31.45 | znf | I have to move my mouse! |
| 23:32.00 | znf | and look for the section |
| 23:33.02 | znf | I should set up my Shadowplay |
| 23:33.29 | fewyn | obliterium quest chain sucks balls |
| 23:33.36 | Semlar | some of them have a cast time and and all of them cause a gcd |
| 23:34.03 | Gnarfoz | znf: weakaura |
| 23:34.22 | Torhal | wonders if Semlar has started hacking POIs to work in the real world. |
| 23:34.42 | Gnarfoz | the real world is not that interesting |
| 23:35.08 | znf | Gnarfoz, what? |
| 23:35.20 | Gnarfoz | znf: grab one, aren't you a heavy WA user |
| 23:35.34 | znf | since when does WA use stuff? |
| 23:35.43 | Gnarfoz | uhm WA can do basically anything. |
| 23:35.53 | znf | yeah, but... that feels wrong |
| 23:35.56 | fewyn | WA is pretty sweet |
| 23:35.57 | znf | and no, I'm not a heavy user |
| 23:36.05 | Gnarfoz | enjoy your humonguous WA: https://haste.smb.wtf/obomuruxuduhacolevixeguhefupey |
| 23:36.11 | fewyn | for example i love http://i.imgur.com/ANhYnPv.png |
| 23:36.37 | znf | I feel like people are really fucking missusing WA doing that kind of set up, it just feels wrong |
| 23:36.41 | znf | it's like sylvanaar's prat |
| 23:36.41 | Gnarfoz | that just looks like a waste of screen real-estate to me ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 23:36.48 | fewyn | i like it |
| 23:36.52 | fewyn | it tells me my ancient mana |
| 23:36.53 | fewyn | and AP |
| 23:37.07 | Gnarfoz | there's no misusing a universal "click to make your custom stuff" addon :P |
| 23:37.35 | fewyn | do i want to know what that does Gnarfoz |
| 23:37.39 | fewyn | the one you linked |
| 23:37.42 | fewyn | that is a lot of text |
| 23:37.44 | Gnarfoz | it does what znf asked. |
| 23:37.50 | fewyn | oh |
| 23:37.52 | fewyn | lol |
| 23:38.13 | Gnarfoz | just shows a texture for all your current AP items, click to use |
| 23:40.09 | fewyn | fyi it's set to work only on ret paladins? |
| 23:40.28 | fewyn | unchecks boxes |
| 23:40.45 | nevcairiel | thats probably what Gnarfoz plays =P |
| 23:40.53 | fewyn | probably his main |
| 23:40.54 | fewyn | i assume |
| 23:42.13 | fewyn | anyone know if it's worth getting a bigger amount of withered for trainign the withered by any chance? |
| 23:43.21 | Gnarfoz | oh right |
| 23:43.25 | Gnarfoz | that of course wasn't there in the original :p |
| 23:43.31 | _Kee | haha! I just one-shottedan NPC mob using⦠a toy: Loot-A-Rang :p |
| 23:43.53 | Stanzilla | new dh name |
| 23:43.56 | Stanzilla | oneshottedan |
| 23:43.57 | Gnarfoz | fewyn: if you have it, you can dump all your 2000 Ancient Mana into it and get 20 from the start (it's one of the options the NPC offers) |
| 23:44.05 | _Kee | Loot-A-Rang does not only aggroes everything in a LAAARGE area, but also activates many artifact traits, like affli Soul Flame :p |
| 23:44.38 | fewyn | my cap is 1200 right now |
| 23:44.46 | foxlit | fewyn: yes. It's a lot more comfortable with larger NPC numbers, as they tend to kill bosses faster than bosses kill them then. |
| 23:44.48 | fewyn | i'll spend 900 |
| 23:44.50 | _Kee | One-shotting enemy with a toy is what I love |
| 23:51.15 | fewyn | Gnarfoz: |
| 23:51.18 | fewyn | that is awesome |
| 23:51.20 | fewyn | thanks |
| 23:57.26 | Mr_Rabies | i wish the loot-a-rang was universally usable again |
| 23:57.33 | Mr_Rabies | it's so dumb to limit it to draenor for non-engineers |
| 23:58.57 | znf | what the fuck is wrong with that stupid pvp area in the underbelly |
| 23:59.05 | znf | I tought you can buy a bodyguard and be safe |
| 23:59.13 | Gnarfoz | ~wowalert |
| 23:59.14 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 23:59.15 | znf | at least that's how it was in the beta |
