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| 00:08.59 | Semlar | on the other hand it also doesn't work |
| 00:09.22 | Semlar | >_> |
| 00:09.55 | Semlar | but that's a minor inconvenience |
| 00:10.18 | Semlar | why do i suddenly have the self highlight circle on me |
| 00:11.51 | Semlar | Interface\FrameXML\LFGList.lua:1939: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'appDuration' (a nil value) |
| 00:12.01 | Semlar | Interface\FrameXML\LFGList.lua:1305: attempt to index local 'classTextColor' (a nil value) |
| 00:13.12 | Semlar | y u do dis guill |
| 00:17.52 | mckenziemc | highlights Semlar's ineptitude. |
| 00:24.31 | Guill | Semlar: Sounds to me like an AddOn issue |
| 00:25.51 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure it's from the interface |
| 00:26.04 | Stanzilla | I had the classTextColor one a few times |
| 00:26.06 | Semlar | i mean, an addon is sort of causing it by refreshing the search |
| 00:26.11 | Semlar | but the error is from the interface |
| 00:26.12 | Stanzilla | always in combat though I think |
| 00:26.20 | Stanzilla | ah or that |
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| 00:30.44 | Semlar | i'm assuming it's not checking whether C_LFGList.GetApplicationInfo is actually returning anything |
| 00:30.58 | Semlar | and it's possible for it not to |
| 00:34.01 | Semlar | i've had it happen frequently enough that i've had to turn lua errors off |
| 00:35.21 | Semlar | here are the full errors Guill: http://hastebin.com/lozefuwove.lua and http://hastebin.com/ugepanureg.lua |
| 00:39.10 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure all my addon is doing is refreshing the search every few seconds |
| 00:50.15 | Stanzilla | can you not blame Guill all the time |
| 00:50.29 | Thunder_Child | He could, but where is the fun in that? |
| 00:50.46 | Stanzilla | just switch up things and blame TheDanW |
| 00:52.40 | Semlar | guill is alphabetically first |
| 00:53.40 | TheDanW | i'm not saying the code is right, but i've never heard of the default UI generating that error |
| 00:53.41 | Semlar | therefor higher on the blame list |
| 00:54.05 | TheDanW | i checked our bug tracker also, nothing that matches |
| 00:54.17 | Semlar | i think it should check whether it has valid results before doing anything with it |
| 00:54.52 | Semlar | i'm not the only one who has these errors, but i think it's from refreshing the search results |
| 00:56.20 | mckenziemc | we could replace Semlar with a vague error message |
| 00:56.21 | TheDanW | Guill did right this, so i think its ok to blame him |
| 00:56.25 | TheDanW | write* |
| 00:56.26 | Semlar | i knew it |
| 00:56.45 | mckenziemc | Guill wrote it, and you're righting it? |
| 00:56.57 | TheDanW | i see what you did there |
| 00:56.58 | Thunder_Child | Guill wronged it according to Semlar. |
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| 01:03.12 | TheDanW | i wrote up a bug reprt for it, someone may right it |
| 01:04.08 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 01:05.18 | Semlar | alright can you also fix the fact that i can't tame these http://www.wowhead.com/npc=20618/mana-invader even though they're clearly serpents |
| 01:06.03 | TheDanW | for you? |
| 01:06.06 | TheDanW | no can do |
| 01:06.10 | Semlar | :( |
| 01:07.19 | Semlar | i can't target them so that makes it a more challenging tame |
| 01:07.19 | Guill | Semlar: So, at least in theory, there should never be an invalid ID on one of those buttons. The UI should respond to the event that the search results were updated and change the IDs on those buttons before anyone can update them. My guess is that some AddOn is doing something that causes a button update (e.g. :Show()) in response to a search result updated event |
| 01:08.05 | Semlar | this happens for both me and my friend who are running different addons that refresh the search results at specific intervals |
| 01:08.53 | Semlar | i don't think it does anything directly with the blizzard frames but i could check |
| 01:09.26 | mckenziemc | "High voltage type (2.7V)." |
| 01:09.56 | Guill | Ohhh, I wonder if some portion of code is trying to do lazy updating and not updating if the UI is hidden. This is probably caused by searching while the UI is closed |
| 01:12.52 | Semlar | it does search in the background while the frame is hidden |
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| 01:19.55 | Stanzilla | maybe it is the searching and trying to apply while you are already in a group and have the UI closed |
| 01:20.01 | Stanzilla | so a combination of those facts |
| 01:24.00 | Semlar | also how come survival isn't a tanking spec |
| 01:27.14 | Freddie | do you really want to do dungeons with hunters tanking |
| 01:29.56 | Semlar | yes |
| 01:30.44 | Semlar | think about how great barrage would be |
| 01:54.13 | Torhal | Semlar: I'm pretty sure survival entails not being stupid enough to stand toe-to-toe with something that wants to smash and/or eat you. |
| 01:56.10 | Semlar | hunters are smart enough to stand behind everyone else |
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| 02:03.24 | Torhal | How, exactly, is that tanking? o.O |
| 02:08.07 | Semlar | i don't understand the question |
| 02:16.17 | znf | some tanks use shields |
| 02:16.22 | znf | some tanks use human shields |
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| 02:55.01 | Zernin | does ace event requrie you to wait for PLAYER_LOGIN to register for events? |
| 03:25.33 | Neffi | Zernin: no |
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| 03:30.41 | Torhal | How would you register for PLAYER_LOGIN if it did? >.> |
| 03:30.46 | Torhal | pickles Neffi. |
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| 03:37.16 | mckenziemc | isn't PLAYER_LOGIN what ace normally uses to trigger the addon's OnEnable, unless you call it manually? |
| 03:37.59 | Torhal | Yeah. |
| 03:41.08 | Semlar | triggers torhal |
| 03:42.16 | Torhal | goes all SJW on Semlar's elbows. |
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| 05:00.27 | Semlar | my spider is back neffi |
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| 05:02.57 | mckenziemc | only one? |
| 05:12.09 | Semlar | it's hanging out on the bathroom mirror |
| 05:18.30 | mckenziemc | is it narcissistic? |
| 05:31.01 | Semlar | i think it's mostly just trying to give me a heart attack |
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| 05:39.56 | nebula | i have a spider friend that chills in the corner of high window sill, if i touch the draw string it brushes against the web and the spider pops up from below |
| 05:40.31 | nebula | (in my bathroom) |
| 05:43.02 | Semlar | SURPRISE |
| 05:43.33 | nebula | it amuses me :p |
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| 07:39.17 | karl_w_w | would be cool if hexchat didnt crash randomly |
| 07:40.34 | Kalroth | which version are you using? |
| 07:41.21 | Kalroth | using 2.12.x here and it hasn't crashed in like forever - well it never crashed, it was more that it froze |
| 07:42.13 | VIad | I use pidgin and no crashes, only some quircky behavior occasionaly. |
| 07:46.50 | karl_w_w | 2.12.1 |
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| 08:36.53 | karl_w_w | 3rd time |
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| 09:35.02 | Gnarfoz | anyone ever implemented TOTP 2FA for something? are there recommendable free solutions? |
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| 09:43.29 | foxlit | read the rfc? |
| 09:44.39 | Fisker | Yeah and he has a lot of comments |
| 09:44.40 | Fisker | :D |
| 09:45.28 | Gnarfoz | I meant a solution, not the specs to write one ^^ |
| 09:46.28 | Gnarfoz | but I haven't even searched yet, just wanted to check if maybe had some experience with it - I'll do my own digging |
| 09:49.35 | foxlit | the specs make it seem like generating and verifying those codes is a two-line affair. |
| 09:52.20 | Gnarfoz | that sounds encouraging, but I'm not going to write an nginx module myself |
| 09:52.37 | Gnarfoz | but it means that perhaps someone already did ;) |
| 09:53.14 | Gnarfoz | (or I'd have to deal with the nginx auth subrequest module, I know that exists - it could talk to something that does the verifying) |
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| 10:50.24 | NuSuey | hmm..btw is there even an addon curently maintained like https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/dynamic-performance ? was thinking about it during the legion invasions where my fps are droping like crazy :) |
| 11:00.37 | Gnarfoz | well, the game has built-in settings for raids/battlegrounds, but I don't think they activate in an open setting like invasions |
| 11:01.10 | Gnarfoz | (which they theoretically could change, to simply work "when in a raid group" instead of "when in a raid instance") |
| 11:02.38 | NuSuey | hmmm.. thats true.. but I'm never in a raid in those invasions anyway |
| 11:10.06 | Gnarfoz | are they maybe exposed to addons? can addons trigger them? |
| 11:17.58 | NuSuey | good question |
| 11:37.38 | Shockah|Work | Gnarfoz, they can't really, because changing settings freezes the game for a sec, right? |
| 11:37.46 | Shockah|Work | loading into a raid freezes the game anyway |
| 11:37.49 | Shockah|Work | so they can do it |
| 11:38.09 | Shockah|Work | well, depending which settings i guess |
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| 11:51.29 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure either of those claims are necessarily true if you're running just the base UI |
| 12:04.20 | nevcairiel | changing some basic settings like view distance works without lag/freeze |
| 12:05.44 | nevcairiel | same with environment detail and t hings like that |
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| 12:37.51 | Mr_Rabies | <NuSuey> hmmm.. thats true.. but I'm never in a raid in those invasions anyway |
| 12:38.05 | Mr_Rabies | there's a keybinding for swapping between performance profiles, i believe |
| 12:38.17 | NuSuey | uh there is? |
| 12:38.42 | Mr_Rabies | i think you can essentially force it to use the raid profile at a keypress, but lets see |
| 12:40.22 | Mr_Rabies | miscellaneous -> toggle graphics settings |
| 12:44.17 | NuSuey | Mr_Rabies: I love you <3 |
| 12:48.13 | Mr_Rabies | i'm pretty much the best so it makes sense |
| 12:49.18 | Kalroth | weeeeell |
| 12:50.35 | Gnarfoz | if there's a keybind, there's a way! ^^ |
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| 13:34.58 | Thunder_Child | Mr_Rabies: I bet it is difficult fitting through doorways with that ego. |
| 13:38.52 | LexSfX | "with that big head of yours" is what you should have said |
| 13:41.15 | Thunder_Child | Since my mind is always in the gutter, that would not be a statement I would want to utter. |
| 13:45.05 | Mr_Rabies | my ego is always erect |
| 13:45.58 | Ressy | snickers |
| 13:51.54 | nevcairiel | TheDanW: any chance of adjusting SecureTemplates.lua InitializeSecureMenu for 7.1 or something? For some reason you guys have two popup types for raid units, "RAID" and "RAID_PLAYER", with "RAID" being used for default raid units, with a very limited menu with barely any options, which leaves raid frame addons with very little functionality in the popups. Contrary to the comments in there (mimicing default UI), the default |
| 13:51.54 | nevcairiel | CompactRaidFrames use RAID_PLAYER as well, but addons don't get a choice :( |
| 13:53.25 | nevcairiel | TheDanW: one option for modification would be to just change the first if section to set RAID_PLAYER, or drop it entirely and let it fall through to the UnitIsPlayer/UnitInRaid check further down |
| 13:55.10 | nevcairiel | TheDanW: as a workaround today, some raid frame addons replace the secure dropdown with an insecure one, which adds more functionality but removed other functions - like set focus obviously requiring secure execution, so its no good or complete solution |
| 13:55.15 | nevcairiel | Anyway, just my wishes for the future :D |
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| 15:57.29 | LexSfX | anyone familiar with using Blizzard's UIDropDownMenu? this addon can't seem to use UIDROPDOWNMENU_OPEN_MENU in its info.func because it is cleared before the info.func is run now (inside UIDropDownMenuButton_OnClick). this was not the case before legion, as this part of this addon worked |
| 15:58.58 | LexSfX | how should i pass the reference to UIDropDownMenu_SetText if UIDROPDOWNMENU_OPEN_MENU is already nil by the time info.func is run? |
| 16:00.35 | LexSfX | the addon in question is ArenaLive UnitFrames, and this can be encountered by clicking the dropdown box in its frames configuration |
| 16:01.39 | LexSfX | and just fyi, i am not the original author; just trying to fix it |
| 16:02.17 | foxlit | let it dieeeeeeeee |
| 16:04.11 | LexSfX | why? |
| 16:04.14 | LexSfX | there's no replacement |
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| 16:05.58 | nebula | well OPEN_MENU is just a ref to the dropdown frame itself, no? you can just use it directly |
| 16:07.33 | LexSfX | nebula: it is, but it is cleared inside Blizzard's UIDropDownMenuButton_OnClick before that same function runs the MenuButton's func |
| 16:07.51 | foxlit | zombie addons and drive-by "fixes" are sad; the world would be a happier place if dead stuff was replaced by new stuff if there was still an interest in it. |
| 16:08.01 | LexSfX | the line that clears it is self:GetParent():Hide(); |
| 16:09.27 | LexSfX | foxlit: wtf. it's not "dead" though. it just hasn't been updated since some time last year, and it is still fully functional, just requiring a few small updates |
| 16:09.53 | LexSfX | that view is ridiculous. rewriting every addon that didn't get updated immediately is insane |
| 16:09.56 | foxlit | then report the bug to the original author and get them to fix it. |
| 16:10.32 | LexSfX | i've been added as an author to the project, so i can update it. clearly the original author would be encountering the bug i'm encountering |
| 16:10.46 | nebula | my point it's just a reference, if it's getting nil'd before you're trying to use it, odds are you're doing something wrong, but since you're already behaving badly, you can just use your dropdown directly |
| 16:10.47 | LexSfX | i intend to fix it "properly", not just apply a stupid hack |
| 16:10.50 | foxlit | ... but you have no clue on how to fix it. |
| 16:11.03 | LexSfX | and that's why i asked |
| 16:11.16 | LexSfX | i'm trying to learn here |
| 16:12.37 | LexSfX | i'm not convinced the original author would have a clue how to fix it either |
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| 16:19.06 | foxlit | (there's an idiom that goes along the lines of 'you should practice on cats (instead)', but those things generally don't translate) |
| 16:22.22 | foxlit | and now I'm sad I looked. All but one of those use cases are UIDropDownMenu_SetText(UIDROPDOWNMENU_OPEN_MENU, button:GetText()) |
| 16:24.26 | LexSfX | you sound sad. be less sad and more pleasant, please. i agree that it's hackish, but dwelling on that is not productive |
| 16:24.52 | LexSfX | thank you for looking, anyway |
| 16:24.58 | LexSfX | and the advice about practicing in the right places |
| 16:25.47 | LexSfX | nebula: your advice was sound. i made it use ALUF_UnitFrameOptionsFrameGroupDropDown directly for now |
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| 16:25.52 | LexSfX | so thank you |
| 16:27.10 | LexSfX | but yes, this is very dirty |
| 16:27.13 | VIad | talking about dropdown? did stuff change to make addons NOT break blizz dropdown frames? :/ |
| 16:27.18 | LexSfX | all the dropdown boxes are broken in this same way |
| 16:27.53 | LexSfX | i've updated 2 of them, but there are tons more that are still broken |
| 16:31.28 | LexSfX | oh, ArenaLive has a DropDownClass:OnClick() that gets its reference with local dropDown = UIDROPDOWNMENU_OPEN_MENU; |
| 16:31.32 | LexSfX | damn it... lol |
| 16:32.12 | foxlit | it's funny, I thought I remembered dropdowns managing their own display text appropriately, but maybe not. |
| 16:33.11 | Semlar | initializes foxlit |
| 16:33.43 | foxlit | insert disk 2 of 17425, Semlar. |
| 16:33.57 | Semlar | :( |
| 16:34.09 | nevcairiel | foxlit: usually they do when you call one of the UIDropDownMenu_SetSelected* functions to change teh current value |
| 16:34.20 | nevcairiel | but it sounds like its really using the dropdown api badly |
| 16:35.42 | Semlar | you can't set the selected item without re-initializing the whole dropdown, which is nice |
| 16:36.22 | Semlar | even if you just want to update what it's displaying |
| 16:36.35 | nevcairiel | as far as i can see that should work fine? |
| 16:37.01 | Semlar | you can set its text directly |
| 16:37.19 | LexSfX | there is UIDropDownMenu_SetText(dropdown, text) |
| 16:37.25 | nevcairiel | the UIDropDownMenu_SetSelected* functions should work fine |
| 16:37.34 | Semlar | they don't |
| 16:37.42 | nevcairiel | maybe you're using them badly! |
| 16:37.51 | LexSfX | well let me see |
| 16:37.54 | Semlar | no, it's because they recycle the dropdown table |
| 16:38.33 | Semlar | so if something else has opened a dropdown and you try to "select" something it picks it from the previous list |
| 16:39.24 | nebula | how the fuck would you have two dropdowns open at once |
| 16:39.44 | Semlar | at least that's what i remember, i've tried to push working with dropdown menus out of my mind |
| 16:40.00 | nevcairiel | i havent used the widget to open dropdowns for a while |
| 16:40.07 | nevcairiel | only the dropdowns themself |
| 16:40.13 | nevcairiel | where you avoid this issue =p |
| 16:40.40 | Semlar | what do you mean |
| 16:43.35 | Semlar | oh you just don't use the blizzard functions? |
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| 16:47.26 | nevcairiel | i just use the dropdown, not the widget to click on |
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| 16:47.56 | nevcairiel | ie. manually call ToggleDropDownMenu on my own button |
| 16:48.03 | foxlit | menu but not the dropdown? |
| 16:48.11 | nevcairiel | however you call these things! |
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| 16:56.02 | TheDanW | nevcairiel: seems reasonable, i'll bring it to see if its something we can do for 7.1 |
| 16:56.40 | nevcairiel | TheDanW: thats all i can ask :) |
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| 17:20.56 | Semlar | TheDanW: what values can an auction query filter have? |
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| 17:21.15 | Semlar | classID, subClassID |
| 17:21.44 | Semlar | inventoryType i guess |
| 17:23.51 | Semlar | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/Blizzard_AuctionUI/Blizzard_AuctionData.lua#266 just the ones here? |
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| 17:48.57 | bshelden | Wasn't there a thing at gamescom an hour ago or am I just total fail at reading this thing? |
| 17:50.19 | fewyn | shrug |
| 17:50.25 | fewyn | i haven't been paying attention |
| 17:50.27 | fewyn | tbqh |
| 17:50.50 | bshelden | At this point I'm taking the kool-aid via IV. NMS taught me nothing. *sighs* |
| 17:51.04 | fewyn | i just don't drink any kool-aid |
| 17:51.15 | fewyn | i thought NMS was looking good |
| 17:51.20 | fewyn | but i tempered my expectations |
| 17:51.22 | fewyn | and didn't buy it |
| 17:51.26 | fewyn | i'm kinda glad i did |
| 17:51.35 | fewyn | but i will buy it when it goes on sale probably |
| 17:51.39 | bshelden | I mostly kid. NMS is a $30 game, not a $60. Sale or more content. |
| 17:51.58 | bshelden | The wow bit for me is simple impatience. Two more weeks to wait, and I dun wanna. |
| 17:52.12 | fewyn | it's just not AAA game |
| 17:52.18 | fewyn | i'd have bought it for 30$ |
| 17:52.57 | fewyn | https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/4y1h9i/wheres_the_no_mans_sky_we_were_sold_on_a_big_list/ |
| 17:53.29 | bshelden | Oh hey, it's back |
| 17:53.46 | bshelden | That vanished last night from the nms reddit |
| 17:53.56 | fewyn | it's on r/Games |
| 17:54.24 | bshelden | I noticed |
| 17:54.29 | bshelden | Updateds the discord link |
| 17:55.08 | bshelden | And updated the disclaimer. Not seeing a feature != no such feature. Some are missing, some undiscovered. |
| 17:57.45 | TheDanW | Semlar: are you talking about the filters table? |
| 17:57.51 | Semlar | yeah |
| 17:58.07 | TheDanW | yeah, those three |
| 17:58.35 | Semlar | i don't suppose there's any way to reverse the default sort order with no sorting method set |
| 17:59.43 | TheDanW | not sure, that hasn't changed in years afaik |
| 18:03.48 | TheDanW | max number of classes you can specify in one query is 5, max subclasses for each class is 25, any inv types for each of those |
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| 18:18.02 | Ammako | Hi, is there a way through the API that I can pull up a list of currently available fonts |
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| 18:27.42 | Ammako | or if I want to be able to select a font do I have to hardcode all the filenames |
| 18:27.56 | nebula | the latter |
| 18:28.33 | nebula | libsharedmedia has all the defaults one, i think |
| 18:28.41 | Fisker | hughugs Cairenn |
| 18:28.49 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 18:29.38 | Ammako | main reason I'm asking tbh is that, right now I made a EU starter edition on my battle.net and I used the same wow install for it as my NA license |
| 18:29.56 | Ammako | and I'm not sure if those cyrillic fonts are something that aren't usually present for NA players |
| 18:30.23 | Ammako | I guess I could check filenames, and if they return nil, then I know the font doesn't exist |
| 18:31.15 | Ammako | but it would have been a whole lot easier if I could just fetch it directly from the game itself hehe. |
| 18:31.24 | nebula | they are, blizzard has weird tech to combine/switch fonts based on the string for most things |
| 18:32.17 | Ammako | ah yeah, code for libsharedmedia has "All font files are currently in all clients" written in a comment so I guess I'm safe here |
| 18:33.19 | Primer | Anyone here keeping track of best class/specs for raiding roles for Legion? I was just hoping to start a dialog with someone that's been keeping apprised of this. For example, what's the best DPS spec for druid in Legion? |
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| 18:34.39 | Ammako | ty for help nebula. |
| 18:34.47 | nebula | np |
| 18:36.01 | Ammako | it unfortunately showed me that what I wanted to do won't really do though haha |
| 18:36.23 | Ammako | anyone experienced with the new default blizz nameplates? |
| 19:13.33 | Ammako | is there a way to reliably tell whether or not a name contains cyrillic characters |
| 19:17.42 | foxlit | it's only a 33-letter alphabet; match them all. |
| 19:18.43 | Ammako | where could I find a list |
| 19:18.49 | p3lim | google |
| 19:19.07 | Ammako | i mean i checked but the wiki page has more than 33 and it includes several that don't seem to be supported by the game |
| 19:20.29 | Ammako | so would i be correct to assume wow only supports those, and no other cyrillic characters? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_alphabet |
| 19:24.23 | Gnarfoz | there are other languages that use cyrillic alphabets besides Russian |
| 19:25.50 | Ammako | yes but I don't think those languages are used by wow aren't they |
| 19:26.41 | Ammako | trying to figure out a reliable way to tell whether a player/unit is from russian realms |
| 19:29.18 | Semlar | i think their realm ID is part of their GUID |
| 19:34.30 | Thunder_Child | Primer: http://www.icy-veins.com/wow/class-guides that seems fairly up to date. |
| 19:36.03 | Primer | Been there. It's not really answering my questions though. |
| 19:37.06 | Primer | Plus I was hoping to engage people in conversation |
| 19:37.39 | Primer | I had to take a phone call immediately after posing the question, so I'm scrolling back |
| 19:39.31 | Thunder_Child | Personally I don't care about being the best of the best, I just care about not sucking. |
| 19:40.12 | Primer | Well, I want to play my druid, and I want to be feral, but I'd hate for it to be crap |
| 19:40.33 | Primer | especially since the raid group I'm joining is enforcing the leveling up of the artifact weapon based on spec |
| 19:41.19 | bshelden | Must provide screenshots? (How would one enforce that?) |
| 19:41.28 | Primer | inspect? |
| 19:41.40 | Thunder_Child | Can't you test that out on the beta server? |
| 19:41.45 | bshelden | Did they change that to show artifact progression? I remember tweets saying that wasn't at hing. |
| 19:42.19 | Primer | NFI |
| 19:43.35 | bshelden | I suppose one could make you provide screenshots quickly with them in the background... |
| 19:44.48 | Andols3 | Isn't mfgmfg doing some kind of artifact inspect? Or was that someone else? |
| 19:45.42 | mfgmfg | Andols, more of a journal. i haven't worked on it lately and dunno if i would do an inspect thing |
| 19:45.51 | bshelden | My understanding (looking for corrections if wrong) is that there's simply no API to check someone else's arti progression. Only ilvl. |
| 19:46.18 | mfgmfg | i just don't have a vision yet of where to go with it next |
| 19:46.45 | mfgmfg | i was looking into how custom hyperlinks work but got lost |
| 19:47.53 | Andols | Ah I see :) I don't think you ever said what you where doing when I was reading, only that you was doing something with artifacts :) |
| 19:48.29 | foxlit | 'the raid group I'm joining is enforcing a strict no-fun policy.' |
| 19:48.51 | Semlar | do you think this is a game |
| 19:49.16 | p3lim | Ammako: Russians can use latin characters too |
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| 19:49.54 | Ammako | that's fine, if they use only latin characters in their name it doesn't break anything on my end :p |
| 19:50.20 | Semlar | why do you need the realm then, just check if the string contains the characters you don't support |
| 19:50.22 | p3lim | But you said you wanted to know if a player was from a russian realm |
| 19:51.25 | Ammako | doesn't GetUnitName() return both name and realm name? |
| 19:51.33 | Andols | Ammako: what is your problem/what are you trying to do? :p |
| 19:52.01 | Semlar | UnitFullName gives you the realm |
| 19:52.17 | Ammako | if they are on a russian realm then the string would contain russian characters regardless of them using all latin characters or not in their character's name |
| 19:52.30 | Ammako | since the realm name returned by GetUnitName would be all russian |
| 19:53.09 | p3lim | Sure, but depending on the problem you're trying to solve there might be better ways of doing something |
| 19:53.12 | Ammako | I'm checking whether the unit's name contains russian characters so that I can set a font which supports cyrillic characters, and set it back to the regular one |
| 19:53.26 | Semlar | ..so check if their name contains cyrillic characters |
| 19:53.27 | Ammako | for units that don't have russian names |
| 19:53.32 | Ammako | that's wh at I'm doing though |
| 19:53.34 | foxlit | no, bad Semlar. |
| 19:53.39 | Semlar | :( |
| 19:53.52 | p3lim | Ammako: There's a system that handle that already |
| 19:53.55 | p3lim | https://github.com/p3lim-wow/oUF_P3lim/blob/master/Fonts.xml |
| 19:54.16 | p3lim | handles* |
| 19:54.20 | Stanzilla | p3lim: any progress on your talentless rewrite btw? |
| 19:54.55 | p3lim | Stanzilla: No, not yet, just moved so I don't have my full setup yet |
| 19:55.22 | Stanzilla | ah ok |
| 19:55.37 | Semlar | i personally just use a font that doesn't support russian so all of my nameplates are invisible in a russian battleground |
| 19:55.54 | p3lim | :p |
| 19:56.23 | Semlar | i was thinking instead of supporting cyrillic you could just replace their name with random placeholders |
| 19:56.36 | Semlar | like Boris or Natasha |
| 19:56.46 | Ammako | I mean the way I did it looks ugly but it works :p I don't really have a problem anymore |
| 19:56.55 | foxlit | p3lim: does inheriting from something in framexml and only overriding the alphabets you're interested in not work properly? |
| 19:57.31 | p3lim | foxlit: what do you mean? |
| 19:58.06 | Semlar | he means just inherit a game font that already does this and override english or whatever with your font |
| 19:59.42 | Semlar | like GameFontNormal |
| 19:59.50 | Ammako | my game seems tobe stuck on Russian now |
| 20:00.43 | Ammako | that was weird, it changed the settings on my battle.net app itself and refused to change itself back when trying to change the language via in-game settings |
| 20:01.19 | p3lim | Semlar: I need those specific font heights, don't think there is one that already exist with those sizes exactly the same |
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| 20:45.16 | [TOM_RUS] | Ammako, ingame language settings are broken since 7.0 |
| 20:45.46 | [TOM_RUS] | it doesn't nothing at all if you lauch game from battle.net app, if you launch game from exe, it works... |
| 20:46.30 | [TOM_RUS] | may be Guill or TheDanW can tell us why this happens |
| 20:46.53 | Ammako | yeah, I ended up figuring out why :p |
| 20:47.26 | Ammako | i was like, why isn't it working now, it worked before. but the times when it was working i was running it from .exe directly and not bnet launcher |
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| 21:17.16 | Guill | TOM_RUS: I believe if the game is launched via the Battle.net app, it uses the settings from the Battle.net app. Agree that it's not super clear though, we should probably disable the in-game option if it's going to do nothing |
| 21:19.25 | Infus | it should be synced, people won't expect the language setting to be in the battle.net app |
| 21:29.49 | [TOM_RUS] | Guill, why can't we change text and sound language separately in battle.net app like we can do in game? separate text/sound language options are only available to "test" clients for some reason |
| 21:30.05 | [TOM_RUS] | also language options worked fine pre 7.0 |
| 21:30.55 | Guill | I don't know off-hand. Also, if this worked differently pre-7.0, it may just be a bug |
| 21:33.17 | [TOM_RUS] | pre 7.0 changing language in game and then lauching from battle.net app worked as expected (game launching with language you set in game), but not anymore |
| 21:33.45 | [TOM_RUS] | changing language in battle.net app still works fine, but it has no separate text/sound selectors :( |
| 21:39.30 | nebula | so does setting the language in the client affect both or just text? |
| 21:39.47 | nevcairiel | both |
| 21:43.55 | VIad | fewyn: wowthing broken < |
| 21:44.07 | VIad | looked good, but couldn't handle 7.0 and the new changes :p |
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| 22:16.06 | Ammako | so it turns out my way of checking for cyrillic characters doesn't actually work as expected |
| 22:17.54 | foxlit | Somewhat expected? One does not simply match utf-8 into Mordor. |
| 22:18.30 | nevcairiel | cant you just decontrstruct the utf-8 and check for the block range |
| 22:18.37 | Ammako | hey im new, i can't really be expected to know everything like that :p |
| 22:20.16 | nevcairiel | U+0400 and U+0500 are the two cyrilic blocks, as far as i can see |
| 22:22.30 | [TOM_RUS] | it's those cyrilic symbols are D0 XX and D1 XX in binary form? |
| 22:23.00 | nevcairiel | d0 to d7 i think |
| 22:23.16 | [TOM_RUS] | hmm |
| 22:24.48 | foxlit | you can probably safely disregard everything past U+044F. |
| 22:25.10 | nevcairiel | what do i know about cyrilic |
| 22:25.14 | nevcairiel | i just see code table |
| 22:25.38 | nevcairiel | those higher ones are different sizes, apparently |
| 22:26.21 | foxlit | sizes? |
| 22:26.28 | [TOM_RUS] | http://imgur.com/a/6VxFs that's whole russian alphabet |
| 22:26.43 | nevcairiel | hm i misinterpreted |
| 22:27.22 | nevcairiel | there is things like "CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER YAE" Ô (d4 98) |
| 22:27.51 | [TOM_RUS] | those can't be used in wow I think |
| 22:28.16 | nevcairiel | well if you build a check for cyrilic, no harm in just checking the entire specified range |
| 22:28.48 | foxlit | Just rename everyone matching [^a-zA-Z] to Susan. |
| 22:28.52 | nevcairiel | d5 seems mostly armenian and d7 already goes into hebrew, so maybe just d0-d4 |
| 22:30.39 | ccox | dalaran crashes are making beta kinda difficult to test |
| 22:33.45 | ccox | Description: Failed to evict record. CacheSize = 64, File: DBFilesClient\WmoMinimapTexture.db2 |
| 22:38.47 | Ammako | is it possible to string.find with unicode on wow lua though? |
| 22:39.39 | nevcairiel | string find should work fine |
| 22:40.01 | nevcairiel | for some other functions there is this as a helper library for utf8 https://www.wowace.com/addons/utf8/ |
| 22:40.09 | Ammako | goes from U+0410 to U+044F |
| 22:40.36 | Ketho | BlockChinese is using strfind to block unicode characters if that helps |
| 22:41.22 | Ssateneth | Hey |
| 22:41.36 | Ssateneth | How does one use the 'bigger' font when chatting in something like trade chat |
| 22:41.51 | Ssateneth | Without inserting obvious characters |
| 22:42.30 | Ketho | why would you want to do that :o |
| 22:42.51 | Ssateneth | Because special snowflake, thats why |
| 22:42.53 | Ammako | ironic that this would get asked right after BlockChinese got referred to |
| 22:44.22 | Ssateneth | like a chinese space character or something huehehue |
| 22:46.08 | Ssateneth | Our server that has 2 people that consistently talk in a bigger font without inserting obvious foreign characters |
| 22:46.31 | nevcairiel | imho that just looks terribly ugly |
| 22:47.07 | Ammako | unfortunately Ketho idk if what you do in BlockChinese can apply to cyrillic :s |
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| 22:47.35 | Ammako | unless im missing something terribly obvious |
| 22:49.31 | nevcairiel | you could just get a chat addon with copy-paste functionality and copy one of the lines of those guys writing in big text and look at it in an editor later :d |
| 22:50.24 | Ammako | i think i may have the completely wrong values for matching against cyrillic but no clue where i would find them |
| 23:01.37 | Ketho | Ammako: don't know of any sources or what the proper name for stuff like \208\145 is... but addons like Spew can escape the unicode characters |
| 23:01.41 | Ketho | % local function escape(c) return "\\"..c:byte() end print((gsub("Ð", "([\001-\031\128-\255])", escape))) |
| 23:03.05 | Ketho | how to use the Lua bot? and I mean, escape so you know what to use for strfind |
| 23:03.46 | Ammako | i'll have to figure out how to use this |
| 23:07.29 | Ammako | yeah I'm lost |
| 23:09.20 | Ammako | or i guess spew was just broken |
| 23:15.02 | Ketho | most of the Russian characters are in the \208-\210 range |
| 23:16.12 | Ammako | Ð returns \208\144 and Ñ returns \209\143, i just have no clue how to actually make use of that info |
| 23:18.02 | Ammako | turns out I can do strfind(GetUnitName(frame.unit, true), "[\208-\209]") and it -seems- to work but I feel like there would be a chance that a character which isn't cyrillic would get falsely detected if it's within that range |
| 23:18.58 | Ammako | that was exactly the info I needed tho, tyvm |
| 23:19.37 | Ammako | I guess I'll worry about that later, if it ends up being a problem lol |
| 23:20.55 | Ketho | I'm wondering the same lol, but haven't had any problems so far with false positives |
| 23:22.35 | Ammako | characters from the other languages don't seem to be getting close to the 208-209 range so it's probably gonna be fine, hah |
| 23:24.41 | ccox | I really do hope they have a patch for the dalaran minimap bug SOON |
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