| 00:00.30 | fewyn | hrm a useful addon that would help me quickly equip gear for transmog would be good |
| 00:01.18 | Gnarfoz | great, TomTom's Arrow thing doesn't work at all in 7.0 |
| 00:01.22 | Gnarfoz | just points to the floor >_< |
| 00:03.48 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: o.O |
| 00:04.02 | Torhal | Just TomTom, or using it with another AddOn? |
| 00:04.19 | Torhal | Archy works just fine, is why I ask. Hadn't tried TomTom's quest pointing at all. |
| 00:04.38 | Gnarfoz | ah yes. someone formatted it as /way x, y |
| 00:04.41 | Gnarfoz | which is not the right syntax |
| 00:04.45 | Torhal | Aah |
| 00:05.13 | mfgmfg | dang, pathed so hard on Real Race in DMF when using hazard immunity it crashed wow |
| 00:05.26 | Gnarfoz | hm, that's not the issue, doesn't work with /way x y, either |
| 00:05.31 | Gnarfoz | doing a single /way works |
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| 00:05.43 | Gnarfoz | maybe it freaks out when there's 56? |
| 00:05.58 | Gnarfoz | mfgmfg: is that what rewards "wayfarer"? |
| 00:07.42 | Gnarfoz | pasting 50 and then the remaining 6 works |
| 00:07.56 | Gnarfoz | no, wait, it stopped working after the fact! |
| 00:08.01 | Gnarfoz | what hellish creation is this?! |
| 00:09.33 | fewyn | https://www.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/comments/4tn39t/addon_that_will_help_you_send_items_by_armor_type/ |
| 00:13.17 | fewyn | this addon is exactly what i wanted :D |
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| 00:33.12 | Gnarfoz | gaaah why does WoW eat ALT and the OS eats SHIFT when I want to use the numpad for bindings >_< |
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| 00:47.41 | mfgmfg | Gnarfoz, the one that gives you the fire vial toy |
| 00:47.54 | mfgmfg | Darkmoon Racer Roadhog |
| 00:48.15 | Gnarfoz | :shrug: guildie also crashes every second achievement or so while binging DMF achievements right now |
| 00:48.26 | Gnarfoz | he used the repair option in the BDA now, though |
| 00:49.48 | mfgmfg | i used the ability that sends you to the next checkpoint |
| 00:49.56 | mfgmfg | and it did a weird zig-zag path aorund some obstacles and the game froze |
| 00:50.22 | Gnarfoz | grrr why can't I get rid of this keybind that I made |
| 01:25.07 | Semlar | ccox: you can always pull the item level out of the tooltip |
| 01:33.26 | End | curseforge upload api just gave me 405 method not allowed :< |
| 01:34.14 | ccox | Semlar - nope, not really a good option for the places I need the item level (though one place could use it) |
| 01:35.28 | Semlar | why |
| 01:52.00 | ccox | Semlar - because sometimes there is more than one tooltip involved, because sometimes we are checking during an auction scan, and other times just canât take the performance hit |
| 01:53.15 | Semlar | you'd have the same issue if GetItemInfo returned the item level |
| 01:53.47 | Semlar | you'd have to cache the items to get information |
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| 01:54.48 | Semlar | that would take a very long time to do on the auction house |
| 01:56.40 | Torhal | End: Switch to https |
| 02:04.57 | End | ok thanks |
| 02:07.16 | End | yup, that fixed it |
| 02:13.12 | Torhal | :D |
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| 02:46.54 | mckenziemc | Torhal: switch to telnet |
| 02:47.48 | Torhal | pummels mckenziemc with raw IRC commands. |
| 02:48.16 | pnorman | has IRCed from telnet and doesn't suggest it |
| 02:55.43 | LexSfX | how do i hook a Blizzard StaticPopupDialogs that has no OnShow? |
| 02:56.24 | p3lim | LexSfX: hooksecurefunc the function that spawns it |
| 02:56.45 | LexSfX | p3lim: i'm trying to, but i can't figure out what that function is called |
| 02:56.46 | p3lim | or listen to the event if there's any |
| 02:56.48 | LexSfX | it's not OnShow or Show |
| 02:56.56 | Torhal | hooks mckenziemc in WORLD_MAP_UPDATE. |
| 02:57.00 | p3lim | StaticPopupDialog_Show maybe? |
| 02:57.09 | p3lim | wild guess |
| 02:57.24 | LexSfX | hmm. then check which staticpopupdialog it is... |
| 02:57.25 | p3lim | LexSfX: which popup are you trying to manipulate? |
| 02:57.38 | LexSfX | p3lim: StaticPopupDialogs["END_BOUND_TRADEABLE"] |
| 02:57.59 | LexSfX | i think that's the right one for the new confirmation when equipping soulbound gear that is tradeable |
| 02:58.05 | LexSfX | if it's not, then not that one |
| 02:58.10 | LexSfX | i just want to skip that confirmation |
| 02:58.16 | p3lim | right |
| 02:59.03 | p3lim | unregister the event from UIParent and handle the confirmation yourself (EndBoundTradeable(arg1)) |
| 03:00.22 | p3lim | or just confirm then hide the popup |
| 03:00.30 | p3lim | from the event that is |
| 03:07.05 | LexSfX | p3lim: StaticPopupDialogs["END_BOUND_TRADEABLE"].OnShow = function(self) self.button1:Click() end |
| 03:07.32 | LexSfX | will that taint it? |
| 03:07.34 | p3lim | I guess that works |
| 03:08.17 | p3lim | shouldn't cause any taint, but then again it's Blizzard |
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| 03:37.09 | Semlar | what do you mean it has no OnShow |
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| 04:19.28 | LexSfX | Semlar, it doesn't have OnShow: https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source/blob/live/FrameXML/StaticPopup.lua#L2698 |
| 04:19.48 | LexSfX | with another staticpopup, i hook its onshow |
| 04:19.52 | LexSfX | but this one doesn't have onshow |
| 04:20.04 | LexSfX | because it doesn't do anything special when it is shown |
| 04:20.08 | LexSfX | so blizz didn't add it |
| 04:20.19 | LexSfX | so i can add my own |
| 04:20.27 | Semlar | that doesn't stop you from hooking the popup's OnShow |
| 04:20.34 | LexSfX | it does though. i already did it |
| 04:20.38 | LexSfX | and it said it was nil etc. |
| 04:20.47 | nebula | it's not like it's a frame you can hookscript |
| 04:21.04 | LexSfX | hooksecurefunc(StaticPopupDialogs["END_BOUND_TRADEABLE"],"Show",function(self) if AutoGear.Enabled == true then self.button1:Click() end end) |
| 04:21.28 | Semlar | well there is clearly a frame to hook when it's created, but hooking StaticPopup_Show would make more sense anyway |
| 04:21.42 | LexSfX | nebula: it is. i use this exact method of hooking for CONFIRM_LEAVE_BATTLEFIELD |
| 04:21.50 | nebula | i have no idea how that works |
| 04:21.53 | LexSfX | okay |
| 04:21.56 | LexSfX | well, i do |
| 04:22.16 | LexSfX | oops, "OnShow" up there, not "Show" |
| 04:22.20 | mckenziemc | LexSfX: did you try HookScript? |
| 04:22.30 | LexSfX | because CONFIRM_LEAVE_BATTLEFIELD has OnShow |
| 04:23.00 | nebula | well that makes more sense, but like Semlar said, you really should just be hooking StaticPopup_Show |
| 04:23.02 | Semlar | nebula: he's not hooking the actual frame's OnShow, it works because he's hooking the table |
| 04:23.16 | nebula | i'm not an idiot! |
| 04:23.21 | Semlar | >_> |
| 04:23.35 | Semlar | he's just being confusing |
| 04:26.27 | Torhal | confuses Semlar with user tickets. |
| 04:26.40 | nebula | i lied, i am an idiot http://i.imgur.com/TAtf9Qv.png |
| 04:27.09 | Torhal | I didn't say it. |
| 04:27.36 | mckenziemc | you just said it |
| 04:28.04 | Torhal | â»â⻠︵ ¯\_(ã)_/¯ ︵ â»ââ» |
| 04:28.15 | nebula | you've been using that alot lately |
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| 04:28.39 | mckenziemc | alots don't mix well with furniture |
| 04:29.28 | nebula | i'll start putting them back â¬âââ¬â¡ï¾(° -°ï¾) |
| 04:29.41 | Torhal | (â¯Â°â¡Â°ï¼â¯ï¸µ â»ââ» |
| 04:29.50 | kullervo | (ã`д)ï¾â³ââ³ |
| 04:29.53 | nebula | (â¯Â°Ð°ï¼â¯ï¸µ/(.â¡ . ) |
| 04:29.57 | Torhal | ('-' ) (._. ) (o_o) ( ._.) ( '-') |
| 04:30.02 | nebula | (that's torhal) |
| 04:30.46 | nebula | ãâ¬ââ¬ã ︵ ( o°o) oh god they're fighting back |
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| 07:24.25 | Miiru | behold the International cat day! |
| 07:24.43 | Miiru | my cat already puked on the floor to celebrate it! |
| 07:24.47 | Myrroddin | you want me to hold an international cat? |
| 07:30.38 | VIad | can go to the pet store and pat a cat |
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| 07:48.11 | FreakySneaky | awe, allergic to cats |
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| 08:03.14 | VIad | how does it feel being alergic to cats? :( do you wang to cuddle them, but then you start to sneeze and eyes get teary? |
| 08:03.58 | nevcairiel | the brain is typically smart enough to not make you want to go near them =p |
| 08:04.17 | VIad | so you never feel the desire to snuggle cats, aww :< |
| 08:04.17 | Shockah|Work | not really |
| 08:04.41 | Shockah|Work | i know someone who's allergic to cats but will still want to cuddle them |
| 08:04.52 | nevcairiel | well some people are always a bit weird |
| 08:04.57 | Shockah|Work | ofc incoming sneezing |
| 08:05.04 | Shockah|Work | but it's only sneezing |
| 08:05.07 | Shockah|Work | in this one case |
| 08:05.14 | nevcairiel | if their allergy is only sneezing, he can probably deal with it |
| 08:05.15 | VIad | is it because of stuff getting into nose? |
| 08:05.24 | VIad | like if you pinch the nose, will it affect you? |
| 08:05.29 | nevcairiel | but if it goes into your eyes or even worse, its just plain out uncomfortable |
| 08:05.48 | Shockah|Work | pretty sure it doesn't matter what you do, unless you're completely separated from the cat |
| 08:06.12 | VIad | but must be something microscopic getting into you somehow to make a reaction |
| 08:06.21 | VIad | if you have a chem suit on I doubt you'd get any reaction |
| 08:06.28 | Shockah|Work | but allergy also works via skin, doesn't it |
| 08:06.38 | VIad | thats what I wonder too |
| 08:06.39 | Shockah|Work | chem suit would count as "completely separated" |
| 08:07.14 | nevcairiel | some do, for cats you are typically not allergic to the cat itself but to "cat hair", not sure if that can really get through the skin, but what do i know, dont have first-hand experience |
| 08:07.16 | VIad | if skin is enough, or if some cases eyes/nose, like if you can close eyes and pinch nose with a clamp and cuddle away :p |
| 08:07.32 | VIad | do alergic people ract to those naked cat race? |
| 08:07.43 | VIad | allergic, react* |
| 08:07.47 | nevcairiel | those are no fun cuddling tho |
| 08:07.50 | VIad | :p |
| 08:08.36 | Shockah|Work | it really depends WHAT you're allergic to |
| 08:08.38 | VIad | can put fake fur cat shirt on it |
| 08:08.45 | Shockah|Work | you're not allergic to the being called cat |
| 08:08.51 | Shockah|Work | you're allergic to what builds the cat |
| 08:08.52 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 08:09.09 | nevcairiel | yeah like i said its usually the hair for animal allergies |
| 08:09.21 | Shockah|Work | but it could rarely be something else |
| 08:09.32 | Shockah|Work | since human bodies are idiots |
| 08:09.54 | Shockah|Work | allergies are stupid |
| 08:09.55 | VIad | another solution, give cat breathing aparatus, submerge in pool, cuddle |
| 08:10.00 | Shockah|Work | lol |
| 08:10.13 | nevcairiel | the cat might try to claw you |
| 08:10.18 | Shockah|Work | wet cats aren't really that... great to cuddle |
| 08:10.18 | VIad | put on VR glasses |
| 08:10.23 | VIad | so it sees the living room |
| 08:10.27 | Shockah|Work | rofl |
| 08:10.55 | Shockah|Work | for a sec i thought you'd put on VR glasses for yourself |
| 08:11.02 | Shockah|Work | *on yourself |
| 08:11.08 | VIad | can do that too, and cuddle the furless cat |
| 08:11.21 | VIad | and just make it look like it has fur |
| 08:11.26 | Shockah|Work | Cat Cuddling Simulator 2016 |
| 08:11.50 | VIad | with the cat purr sound in the ears |
| 08:11.53 | VIad | prrrrrr |
| 08:12.00 | Shockah|Work | Steam Greenlight here we go! |
| 08:13.27 | nevcairiel | gotta have a special controller to simulate cuddling though, no fun for the player otherwise |
| 08:13.46 | Shockah|Work | or wait another 15 years for Sword Art Online to become real |
| 08:14.13 | Shockah|Work | NerveGear etc |
| 08:17.20 | nebula | i'll wait for nervegear v2 |
| 08:18.28 | nebula | only 10 years away! |
| 08:28.38 | ccox | yeah, Iâm pretty sure weâll pass on nervgear v1 :-) |
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| 10:36.28 | VIad | someone asked a question I found interesting. if two frames with a backdrop that is .5 opaque overlap, the transparency adds up - is there a way to keep it the same? |
| 10:37.04 | VIad | I would guess it's not possible, but had to ask |
| 10:43.14 | Shockah|Work | in normal graphics you'd use a framebuffer, render everything to it, then render the framebuffer to screen at some alpha |
| 10:43.22 | Shockah|Work | doubt you can do that in WoW |
| 10:44.21 | Shockah|Work | actually... can you set opacity to the whole frame? what happens to the child frames then? |
| 10:46.32 | nevcairiel | childs inherit the alpha of their parent |
| 10:47.55 | VIad | I guess you could create an elaborate way to alpha and not overlap it with other frames of the kind |
| 10:48.19 | VIad | like detecting when a frame overlaps, how much, then move the background textures around, make sure the background is transparent :p |
| 10:48.33 | VIad | but not sure the visuals would be worth the performance impact |
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| 13:23.34 | VIad | quiet today :) |
| 13:24.16 | FreakySneaky | Indeed |
| 13:24.29 | Simca | i've got to work soon (~noon EST) but i'm trying to bring CASCRebuilder to a release-ready state before then |
| 13:27.40 | VIad | will you github the sourcecode? |
| 13:28.19 | VIad | might get a huge load off your chest with community patches |
| 13:30.35 | Simca | yeah, in an hour or two |
| 13:30.46 | Simca | well, not github, but similar |
| 13:31.17 | d[karl]b | sourceforge? :P |
| 13:32.44 | nevcairiel | that would be not github, but shitty |
| 13:33.33 | nevcairiel | i bet he is one of those people that use Hg |
| 13:34.04 | karl_w_w | only on toast |
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| 13:41.44 | Simca | nevcairiel: I like Hg for small personal projects like this, yeah |
| 13:43.00 | Simca | I use git/github for work |
| 13:43.33 | Simca | also i've never understood the love for github |
| 13:44.13 | Simca | the UI looks terrible and the search functionality is literally garbage |
| 13:44.35 | nevcairiel | their web UI is pretty terrible |
| 13:44.56 | nevcairiel | but people like it because its an established platform to attract collaborators |
| 13:45.15 | Simca | yeah |
| 13:47.01 | Thunder_Child | I have git and svn at work. Which means either Trac or gitlabs. |
| 13:47.13 | Thunder_Child | Or a blade to the wrists. |
| 13:47.51 | Simca | thankfully i have only had to use svn once in my life (to commit a fix to the Routes addon) |
| 13:48.22 | Thunder_Child | Although we do have Grok for svn as well. |
| 13:49.02 | Simca | i was asked once to develop a better github search that people here could use |
| 13:50.16 | Simca | and after looking through the alternatives, the only way i could see to make it work was to gather data by hitting github's site like a freight train repeatedly, probably from a lot of different IPs, and then dumping the data into something like ElasticSearch |
| 13:50.52 | Simca | which seemed like too much effort so i gave up until somebody pokes me about it again |
| 13:51.34 | Thunder_Child | We have elasticsearch as well. We seem to have everything but coherency. |
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| 15:13.28 | Simca | https://bitbucket.org/MMOSimca/cascrebuilder/commits/all |
| 15:13.37 | Simca | just in case somebody wants to look at it. |
| 15:13.47 | Simca | still needs quite a bit of work |
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| 15:15.39 | mfgmfg | what's 'C5' Simca? |
| 15:16.28 | Simca | "Copenhagen Comprehensive Collection Classes for C#" |
| 15:17.57 | Simca | the container I use C5 to make is basically a priorityqueue with million(s) of managed items, sorted on a key that is a combination of two existing properties, bitshifted |
| 15:18.18 | Simca | I figured performance with standard C# containers would be horrible, so I went straight for something performant and designed for that use case |
| 15:18.39 | Simca | i should probably actually profile them and see if there is a big enough difference to warrant including the library |
| 15:21.15 | karl_w_w | TIL "warranty void if removed" stickers are illegal |
| 15:21.41 | VIad | what? |
| 15:21.55 | VIad | isnt it just a way to easily see if you have tampered with the item? |
| 15:22.29 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 15:22.40 | karl_w_w | but so what if you tampered with it, it's your item |
| 15:23.00 | Simca | i basically needed something with an ~O(1) 'getmin' time, ~O(1) 'insert' time, and a sort time that is at least O(n), preferably better. The priority queue from C5 meets both of the first requirements and doesn't require explicit sorting, so it's fast. |
| 15:23.19 | karl_w_w | as long as you havent broken it in your attempts, it's still under warranty |
| 15:23.20 | mfgmfg | the sticker is probably legal, them refusing to service your device based on the condition of the sticker is not necessarily legal |
| 15:23.33 | VIad | if you sent it back for repairs they can see warranty is void because you could have spilled water inside. |
| 15:23.51 | VIad | I guess thats the idea, to hope people dont mess it up by doing something inside. |
| 15:23.51 | karl_w_w | you can usually do that without removing stickers :P |
| 15:23.57 | VIad | sure ^^ |
| 15:24.08 | mfgmfg | good luck trying to sue apple |
| 15:24.26 | VIad | they will probably sue you for breaking their sticker |
| 15:24.30 | Simca | the whole warranty thing is pretty silly - they will refuse to service it based on whether or not you were the cause of the damage |
| 15:24.33 | VIad | because the terms said its their property |
| 15:24.42 | Simca | but how can they tell? |
| 15:24.49 | VIad | sticker isnt there? |
| 15:25.09 | Simca | okay, so I can shoot my iPhone and put it in the microwave |
| 15:25.13 | mfgmfg | embed some wires in the sticker that cause the device to stop working |
| 15:25.14 | Simca | as long as I leave the sticker on |
| 15:25.18 | mfgmfg | if you pull it off |
| 15:25.33 | Simca | I assume they just have set lists of what damage is acceptable to repair and what isn't |
| 15:26.11 | Simca | "black lines around a specific port could be our fault, fix that" "fire damage is not our problem, don't fix that" |
| 15:26.25 | VIad | I think they just /random >80 they repair, otherwise recommend you buy the latest model |
| 15:26.34 | Simca | lol |
| 15:26.59 | karl_w_w | I would bet there are some that do |
| 15:27.24 | VIad | I wish boe items could be sacrificed on the transmog guy to unlock their appearance - so I dont have to mail all my alts and equip green items just to unlock the looks |
| 15:27.58 | VIad | drag drop the item onto his interface, confirm I wish to sent it to the void and get the look unlocked :d |
| 15:38.58 | mfgmfg | VIad, there's an addon that helps |
| 15:39.18 | mfgmfg | https://www.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/comments/4tn39t/addon_that_will_help_you_send_items_by_armor_type/ |
| 15:39.18 | VIad | does it log on my alts to equip and delete the items? |
| 15:39.38 | pompy | rip Yahoo Messenger, and gg Yahoo not giving advance notice... derp .. http://fortune.com/2016/08/05/yahoo-messenger-traders-oil/ |
| 15:41.01 | mfgmfg | service is still up pompy |
| 15:41.04 | foxlit | they gave advance notice. |
| 15:41.06 | mfgmfg | the desktop is not |
| 15:41.11 | mfgmfg | desktop client* |
| 15:41.15 | pompy | did they? |
| 15:41.24 | foxlit | yes, they did. |
| 15:41.26 | mfgmfg | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/06/13/yahoo_messenger_almost_dead/ |
| 15:41.47 | pompy | nice |
| 15:42.31 | pompy | whats the new messenegr? |
| 15:42.39 | VIad | yahoo mail web based? |
| 15:47.59 | VIad | anyone using altholic? |
| 15:48.02 | VIad | I am trying it out atm |
| 15:50.26 | mfgmfg | used it a couple years ago but not at this time. it was good |
| 15:50.56 | fewyn | i stopped using it when i found out about https://www.wowthing.org/ VIad but it doesn't seem to be updated for legion |
| 15:51.10 | mfgmfg | wowthing just got updated recently |
| 15:51.17 | fewyn | it did? |
| 15:51.22 | mfgmfg | yes |
| 15:51.33 | Thunder_Child | I have it installed VIad, but I don't use it much. |
| 15:51.40 | fewyn | time to install it again then! |
| 15:51.43 | VIad | it tells me currencies like garrison, apexis |
| 15:51.52 | mfgmfg | the author is in here fewyn, Freddie |
| 15:51.53 | VIad | but I want it to tell me about my characters darkmoon tickets :d |
| 15:52.19 | mfgmfg | https://github.com/madcowfred/wowthing_collector/releases/tag/v0.7.0 |
| 16:00.28 | VIad | seems wowthing is confused eu/us |
| 16:00.39 | VIad | is this thing running on someones garrage pc or? :p |
| 16:01.58 | fewyn | it always seems fast to me! |
| 16:02.24 | VIad | :d |
| 16:02.31 | VIad | I meant more like professional level |
| 16:02.35 | VIad | I'd at least buy a host :p |
| 16:02.35 | mfgmfg | well it has to handle peoples' accounts that have this many characters: https://www.wowthing.org/u/Kebabfarfar/#overview |
| 16:02.51 | VIad | only if you multibox |
| 16:03.35 | fewyn | https://www.wowthing.org/u/fewyn/#overview |
| 16:04.46 | Tentacled | Wow. What the epic fuck. Have a couple of identical caged pets in your bags. Place one in the AH window and /run StartAuction(bid,buyout,time,1,2) to sell two stacks of one of the pet. The AH code will post the one selected... and then the first other pet that's in the bags... |
| 16:05.14 | fewyn | ~pet cages~ |
| 16:05.14 | purl | ACTION reaches over and pets cages~ on the head, saying "There, there! It'll all be ok!" |
| 16:05.26 | fewyn | ilu2 purl |
| 16:05.41 | Tentacled | Cages are being petted. Please wait. |
| 16:05.59 | VIad | found an exploit, Tentacled? |
| 16:06.11 | fewyn | the way they did caged pets is pretty odd |
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| 16:06.43 | End | what's the alternative though? an item for each pet species? :P |
| 16:06.49 | Tentacled | Rather a bug, perhaps stemming from the fact that caged pets are all 82800 "Pet Cage". |
| 16:06.54 | fewyn | i don't have a good solution |
| 16:07.30 | fewyn | that was probably the "Easiest" option for them tho |
| 16:07.31 | Tentacled | Mass-selling those results in mass-sold "first found in bags" pets. |
| 16:07.53 | VIad | the whole pet thing was like a hack :p |
| 16:07.58 | End | it's not the first type item to act that sort of way though |
| 16:08.06 | VIad | one item but you behave differently to show the right tooltip and icon |
| 16:08.06 | fewyn | def looks like it |
| 16:08.29 | shooteru | One selected, and then n-1 of first-in-bags |
| 16:08.52 | End | wrapped items and copied mail work in a similar way...but neither are sellable |
| 16:08.58 | shooteru | Now that I look at it, I wonder if equipment would be hit by the same bug |
| 16:09.08 | shooteru | Evening, hello, and so on |
| 16:09.22 | VIad | good bye |
| 16:12.29 | Tentacled | VIad <3 |
| 16:12.35 | VIad | <3 |
| 16:12.52 | VIad | are you madcowfred, Tentacled? |
| 16:13.24 | Tentacled | I do not remember undergoing the process of madcowfring. |
| 16:13.33 | VIad | kay |
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| 16:13.40 | VIad | I made a ticket on github for wowthing-sync |
| 16:13.56 | VIad | if you have no garrison, level 1 bank, it errors for follower/ship scan ^^ |
| 16:14.05 | VIad | wait thats the syn client |
| 16:14.06 | VIad | I meant |
| 16:14.56 | Tentacled | You seem to be operating under the assumption that indeed a madcowfred person is present. |
| 16:16.12 | VIad | he isnt |
| 16:16.18 | VIad | you just loved me when I made a ticket |
| 16:16.25 | VIad | and we talked about wowthing |
| 16:16.50 | VIad | was just curious :d |
| 16:17.02 | mfgmfg | VIad Freddie is |
| 16:17.10 | VIad | is it Freddie? |
| 16:17.27 | VIad | well thats handy |
| 16:18.12 | VIad | ah. the site shows Mr and Mrs and class names, not actual names :p |
| 16:18.16 | VIad | privacy settings I guess |
| 16:18.24 | mfgmfg | yeah it's all anonymized |
| 16:18.27 | VIad | https://www.wowthing.org/u/Vlad |
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| 16:20.06 | asyx | hello |
| 16:20.52 | VIad | yo |
| 16:21.19 | asyx | can somebody quickly explain to me what the difference between the backdrop and the BORDER and BACKGROUND texture layers is? |
| 16:21.41 | asyx | is the backdrop bgfile just drawn in the BACKGROUND layer and the edgeFile in the BORDER layer or what? |
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| 16:41.49 | Tentacled | VIad, I only loved you for the swift "hello" "good bye" response. That was a brief and noncommittal love, I'm afraid. |
| 16:42.18 | VIad | lol |
| 16:42.23 | VIad | <3 Tentacled |
| 16:42.41 | Tentacled | </3, I don't love you anymore. Tentacles are fickle. |
| 16:43.53 | VIad | <33 |
| 16:44.07 | Tentacled | What's that, buttsechs? |
| 16:44.39 | VIad | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 16:44.40 | Maldivia | what's the < then? |
| 16:45.04 | Tentacled | That's Pacman after a haircut. |
| 16:45.30 | Maldivia | ... I guess I don't want to know what he's doing there then |
| 16:45.53 | VIad | this has bothered me for many expansions - why? http://ss.bool.no/capture_1470674749.png |
| 16:45.59 | VIad | icon on large map, nothing in zone map ,_, |
| 16:49.24 | VIad | in other news, wowthing made me realize i have 50/50 male/female |
| 16:49.31 | VIad | what should my DH be? too hard |
| 16:49.36 | VIad | the pressure |
| 16:50.18 | Semlar | a panda |
| 16:50.46 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: reacharound. |
| 16:53.01 | karl_w_w | http://www.strawpoll.me/10923859 |
| 16:53.10 | karl_w_w | we're doomed |
| 16:54.03 | Thunder_Child | How can you be indifferent? |
| 16:54.10 | Thunder_Child | (in this case) |
| 16:54.47 | VIad | shrug |
| 16:55.03 | VIad | I can't imagine a situation that would be a thing for me |
| 16:55.11 | VIad | and if it happens I am sure it will be a bit awkward? |
| 16:55.18 | VIad | how did the person get into my house? |
| 16:56.32 | Thunder_Child | You never invite people into your house? |
| 16:57.30 | Semlar | it's a little weird to invite them into your bathroom with you but i guess if you're into that sort of thing |
| 16:57.40 | VIad | :p |
| 16:57.44 | VIad | ^ |
| 16:58.57 | karl_w_w | technology will save us http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37009696/tesla-car-drives-owner-to-hospital-after-he-suffers-pulmonary-embolism |
| 16:59.39 | VIad | "in other news, tesla car drove over kindergarden children" |
| 17:00.00 | VIad | "confused jacket color for green light" |
| 17:00.33 | VIad | I remember a tesla driving under a huge truck, it thought the paint reflecting light was clear way |
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| 17:00.42 | karl_w_w | stream is live VIad |
| 17:00.46 | VIad | omw |
| 17:01.01 | Andols | Vlad: If it's bothering you, just as the icon to the map :p |
| 17:01.02 | VIad | hope its only one stream this time |
| 17:01.03 | VIad | not 4 |
| 17:02.21 | karl_w_w | the stage is veiled, pit lord possibility increasing |
| 17:02.46 | VIad | dreadlord jaina gonna open tonight |
| 17:03.14 | karl_w_w | I would be happy if they got the rights to "jaina in the morning" |
| 17:03.18 | g0urra | I think one of the bugs in val'sharah is horribly bugged.. a quest mob at two points in the fight summons Dark Manifestations that are a copy of you |
| 17:03.40 | g0urra | unfortunately that also applies to pets - which, as an unholy dk, I got horribly massacred by |
| 17:03.59 | Maldivia | well, respec then for that fight |
| 17:04.03 | g0urra | one of the quests* |
| 17:06.36 | TheDanW | Torhal, ccox: the base item level being returned in GetItemImfo with an item link is on the list to fix |
| 17:07.19 | TheDanW | VIad: i believe that pet battle nameplates are already fixed for 7.1 |
| 17:07.55 | VIad | cool TheDanW :) |
| 17:08.15 | TheDanW | Semlar: we rewrote a most of cooldown frame rendering for 7.1, should hopefully fix all the oddities that they have in 7.0.3 :/ |
| 17:08.21 | Semlar | what's wrong with their nameplates |
| 17:09.10 | TheDanW | nevcairiel: those binding categories look great ;p we'll have to look at that |
| 17:09.30 | nevcairiel | fun isnt it |
| 17:09.49 | nevcairiel | guill told me he gave it to QA already for tracking |
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| 17:23.00 | VIad | karl_w_w: unable to livestreamer it |
| 17:24.17 | karl_w_w | need to use the special quality settings |
| 17:24.37 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.34 | VIad | oh jesus |
| 17:27.37 | VIad | not just "source" |
| 17:28.04 | VIad | omg its him |
| 17:28.39 | VIad | the one and only siractionslacks |
| 17:28.40 | VIad | I like him |
| 17:28.44 | VIad | he is jolly |
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| 17:31.06 | VIad | save the stream, karl_w_w |
| 17:31.09 | VIad | it's dying on my end |
| 17:31.25 | karl_w_w | riot ddos |
| 17:31.39 | karl_w_w | its back |
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| 17:31.54 | VIad | lol, riot ddos :p |
| 17:32.40 | zenzelezz | sounds like a riot |
| 17:37.22 | VIad | a performance question, since lua can perform arithmetic ops on strings and number types |
| 17:37.26 | VIad | "5"+2 and such |
| 17:37.46 | VIad | is it cheaper to tonumber(10) == 10 or just "10"-10==0 check? |
| 17:37.53 | VIad | performance wise :p |
| 17:39.02 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 17:39.23 | Semlar | you could just use the correct type to compare it to |
| 17:39.47 | VIad | I am getting npcID from UnitGUID |
| 17:39.57 | VIad | was being lazy converting the type |
| 17:40.13 | VIad | but I can just use my constant as string and just compare string types |
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| 17:42.24 | karl_w_w | thank god there's a desk |
| 17:42.44 | karl_w_w | I was worried they were going to look like a barbershop quartet the whole time |
| 17:44.05 | Thunder_Child | Heh, I thought you meant for your head. |
| 17:48.45 | VIad | age and penis jokes |
| 17:48.48 | VIad | the event is complete |
| 18:02.01 | VIad | karl_w_w: "mvp phoenic" |
| 18:04.49 | karl_w_w | magic tricks! |
| 18:04.54 | VIad | karl_w_w: omg |
| 18:05.02 | VIad | it's like so not on the stage but only on the screens :d |
| 18:05.28 | karl_w_w | we still haven't mastered holographic projectors :P |
| 18:07.50 | fewyn | i wonder if there will be a patch tomorrow |
| 18:07.56 | fewyn | or will they just do maint then launch dh |
| 18:09.18 | Gnarfoz | ~wowalert |
| 18:09.18 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 18:09.29 | fewyn | i know they are doing maint |
| 18:09.44 | Gnarfoz | I didn't |
| 18:10.08 | fewyn | well now you know! |
| 18:10.12 | fewyn | ~~~~* |
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| 18:19.51 | VIad | karl_w_w: ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
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| 18:53.32 | VIad | so apparently shimmer+displacement while on a transport (moving platform) you end up porting somewhere random to that particular platform location |
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| 18:58.06 | mfgmfg | VIad, yea we went over that the other day here |
| 18:58.11 | mfgmfg | blink works too |
| 18:58.13 | VIad | ah neat |
| 18:58.22 | VIad | I guess its displacement that is bugged |
| 18:58.27 | mfgmfg | someone thinks there used to be an error if you tried to do it on a moving platform |
| 18:58.29 | VIad | while on a moving platform :p |
| 18:58.32 | mfgmfg | (with blink) |
| 18:58.46 | mfgmfg | which either got removed on purpose or accidentally |
| 18:58.57 | VIad | aha |
| 18:59.22 | VIad | I am sure it will get fixed |
| 18:59.26 | VIad | pretty soon |
| 19:00.25 | mfgmfg | http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Blinking_Rules_%26_Regulations |
| 19:00.40 | VIad | :d |
| 19:02.04 | VIad | on another note, I played with the super camera zoom inside gate of the setting sun |
| 19:02.25 | VIad | I saw that kunlai summit was just a blank template with some text on the floor indicating where things will go :p |
| 19:05.05 | VIad | the blink bug, I guess it sends you to 0,0,0 ? |
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| 19:10.40 | Thunder_Child | That's what the consensus is. |
| 19:11.15 | VIad | the omnitron defense drops group roll loot even when alone, maybe a bug |
| 19:12.59 | VIad | hmm didnt seem so, Thunder_Child |
| 19:13.09 | VIad | was placed at -466, -440 |
| 19:14.21 | VIad | blackwing descent |
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| 19:36.27 | Gnarfoz | 0,0,0 can't be, because it's various places. |
| 19:40.35 | nevcairiel | there is only so many 0,0,0, westfall, stonetalon .. dont know the newer continents =p |
| 19:42.08 | Gnarfoz | (westfall is not 0,0,0, that's the alliance default graveyard) |
| 19:43.05 | VIad | dungeons 0,0,0 is different than the main maps |
| 19:43.17 | VIad | it ports you on the same map you are loaded |
| 19:43.23 | VIad | but to some mysterious coordinates :d |
| 19:43.41 | VIad | maybe it has something to do with how elevators/moving platforms work + your distance/positions |
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| 19:44.23 | mckenziemc | teleports VIad to some mysterious coordinates. |
| 19:46.29 | bshelden | It's the westfall graveyard... |
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| 19:48.15 | End | there's 0,0,0 and there's the default graveyard for a map |
| 19:49.29 | End | I remember now sometimes you'd appear at...I think it was the barrens graveyard...but maybe it was the durotar graveyard...after getting punted out of a place |
| 19:49.43 | End | but I do also remember appearing in stonetalon |
| 19:49.57 | End | probably changing behavior over the years |
| 19:50.13 | nevcairiel | stonetalon is the 0 point of kalimdor at least i'm pretty sure |
| 19:50.15 | bshelden | I think I've had westfall and stonetalon. |
| 19:50.19 | End | yeah it is |
| 19:50.21 | nevcairiel | if 0 is not in westfall then i forget where it is |
| 19:50.35 | bshelden | I have no memory of a random place in EK. |
| 19:50.43 | End | but I remember that if you got kicked out of something sometimes you would appear elsewhere..I don't think it's always been the same behavior |
| 19:50.46 | bshelden | That more or less stopped for me in WotLK. |
| 19:50.59 | nevcairiel | it was mostly a classic thing |
| 19:52.07 | End | I feel like I might have seen it being on the hill between terrokar, hellfire and zangar marsh in TBC, but I'm not certain |
| 19:52.30 | End | I don't think it ever happened since then though |
| 19:52.48 | nevcairiel | i could lookup the zero coordinates, but I'm lazy |
| 19:52.58 | Gnarfoz | Stonetalon was mostly shipwrecks |
| 19:53.05 | End | (and in TBC, if it isn't a fake memory, I only got it once) |
| 19:53.28 | VIad | doesnt seem like the mage bug places you at zero coordinates though |
| 19:55.18 | Gnarfoz | ugh, the Dalaran Hearthstone still doesn't sort next to the Hearthstone. |
| 19:55.30 | Gnarfoz | they fucked this up with the Garrison Hearthstone and now they're doing it again. |
| 19:55.31 | VIad | 8.0 ^^ |
| 19:56.14 | bshelden | That reminds me. Does there currently exist a bag mod that gives a list view instead of a slot view? |
| 19:56.32 | Semlar | technology's not there yet |
| 19:56.37 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: autosorting is for wimps |
| 19:56.43 | bshelden | It existed once way back in vanilla. |
| 19:56.58 | bshelden | But my decade old memory doesn't include the name of the damn thing |
| 19:57.12 | nevcairiel | barely any addons from back then still work anyway |
| 19:57.52 | VIad | I wish there was an addon like bagnon, but that allowed you to make a virtual bag |
| 19:57.58 | bshelden | It's like devs move onto other things in that kind of time or something |
| 19:58.04 | Semlar | i just use the default bags |
| 19:58.11 | VIad | default bags are fixed in size |
| 19:58.20 | VIad | if you want onebag but 10 slots for 10 specific items |
| 19:58.26 | VIad | so they dont mix in the other items |
| 19:58.41 | bshelden | I dislike slot based inventory in general. So yeah, list view would be awesome. Should be possible, I mean it really is just a different layout for the slots, and some labels beside them. |
| 19:59.01 | Semlar | list view is much less efficient for space |
| 19:59.29 | VIad | ^ |
| 19:59.29 | Semlar | it's also harder to make a scrolling list so that's probably why it's less common |
| 19:59.30 | bshelden | is completely ok with that |
| 19:59.45 | VIad | scrollframes and securebuttons |
| 19:59.48 | VIad | can they coexist? |
| 19:59.56 | Semlar | yes |
| 20:00.01 | VIad | so whats the problem? :p |
| 20:00.05 | Semlar | it's harder |
| 20:00.15 | bshelden | Someone with the will to do it has to want it. |
| 20:00.20 | Semlar | nobody likes writing a scrolling list |
| 20:00.32 | End | the moral of the story is everyone is lazy |
| 20:00.33 | bshelden | I'm capable, but unwilling. So no bag mod for me unless someone else did it. |
| 20:00.54 | nevcairiel | VIad: item buttons arent even secure =p |
| 20:01.15 | VIad | you need to use secure template for it to work like item click right? |
| 20:01.20 | VIad | UseContainerItem dont work in combat |
| 20:01.35 | nevcairiel | nah just use blizzards template |
| 20:01.49 | nevcairiel | its not secure, but if you dont taint the code in it |
| 20:02.43 | nevcairiel | would just have to re-style it for a list view, but thats not a big deal |
| 20:03.58 | Gnarfoz | mhh, Legendairy vendor on beta, *grabs all of them* |
| 20:04.18 | VIad | nevcairiel: do you think the virtual bag idea is stupid? |
| 20:04.31 | nevcairiel | definitely, bags are silly |
| 20:04.41 | VIad | start with one big bag. have some config button on it to easily create compartments. |
| 20:04.48 | VIad | put items in those to keep them together |
| 20:04.51 | Thunder_Child | VIad: arkinventory might do it. https://github.com/arkayenro/arkinventory/wiki/RuleFunction_Name |
| 20:04.56 | VIad | I tried that thing |
| 20:04.57 | Thunder_Child | Seems to be able to do rules by name. |
| 20:05.00 | nevcairiel | there are other addons that let you partition the bag, like that one |
| 20:05.04 | VIad | its huge and a bit buggy atm |
| 20:05.25 | Thunder_Child | I'm willing to live with it for the ease of use. |
| 20:05.34 | bshelden | Ark's what I use for now. Though it's missing a small but super useful feature. I can't find the "push everything into the crafting bank" button. |
| 20:06.01 | Thunder_Child | Not button, right click on the craft container |
| 20:06.11 | bshelden | ooo |
| 20:06.13 | bshelden | Danke |
| 20:06.15 | Thunder_Child | reagent container* |
| 20:06.20 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
| 20:06.52 | End | I used to use ArkInventory, but it seems like it has to everything, including the kitchen sink and also a housecat |
| 20:07.06 | bshelden | And a bit of plumbing. And a couch? |
| 20:07.26 | nevcairiel | plumbing is the first thing everything should have |
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| 20:07.39 | Thunder_Child | I don't think a rock needs plumbing. |
| 20:07.59 | znf | End, let that sink in |
| 20:08.54 | bshelden | But yeah, it's a bit much. But I have to admit what I want I can only have in "lean" form if I just make it myself, so I deal./ |
| 20:09.36 | End | but I don't need it to have my housecat |
| 20:10.11 | bshelden | Given that I'm currently using it as a one-bag-with-search, there's probably something leaner, but it's not offending me so inertia wins. |
| 20:10.26 | Thunder_Child | The only thing it is missing (that I know of) is the ability to change the number of containers per width. As it stands my bank bag goes off the screen. |
| 20:10.40 | Thunder_Child | bshelden: There is. |
| 20:10.45 | bshelden | I figured |
| 20:11.07 | bshelden | Name? I should probably have a look. |
| 20:11.13 | bshelden | xpack's a good time to do a shake-up anyway. |
| 20:11.36 | bshelden | Though you did just point me to the answer to my only complaint with ark :P |
| 20:11.36 | Thunder_Child | adibag and onebag have a search function |
| 20:11.46 | End | I think the real problem I had was one version or another was real bad with memory usage in some way (was it creating loads of garbage? I don't remember) so I ended up switching to adibags |
| 20:11.46 | Thunder_Child | adibags* |
| 20:12.06 | Thunder_Child | ark uses ~10mb on average for me. |
| 20:12.45 | Thunder_Child | the next thing on the list uses ~2mb, but since I still have ~20GB of ram free, I am not exactly worried. |
| 20:12.51 | End | a lot less ideal for sorting things but runs much better while mostly only sacrificing things I don't care that much about anyway |
| 20:13.02 | bshelden | I stopped caring about ram use long ago. As long as I'm not noticing GC pauses, I'm unconcerned. |
| 20:13.42 | bshelden | That reminds me, time to upgrade my ram I think. 20 gigs isn't enough anymore... *mutters about modded minecraft* |
| 20:14.15 | nevcairiel | 20 is a rather odd amount for these days anyway |
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| 20:15.02 | Thunder_Child | Sadly it's hard to find a consumer mobo that hits 128GB of ram. |
| 20:15.20 | nevcairiel | mine can do that |
| 20:15.28 | bshelden | 4 + 16. So 'organic'. |
| 20:15.31 | Thunder_Child | They have them, but it's not common. |
| 20:15.40 | bshelden | I'm probably going to ugprade to 64 next time I want to buy hardware. |
| 20:15.53 | nevcairiel | most x99 boards can do that, unless you dont count the E platform as consumer =p |
| 20:17.00 | End | I wouldn't call it mainstream, but it probably still counts as "consumer"? |
| 20:17.20 | Thunder_Child | I call it consumer if it's not running a xeon. |
| 20:17.27 | nevcairiel | then it is |
| 20:17.57 | nevcairiel | and most of the x99 boards have 8 ram slots, 8x16 = lots of ram, expensive tho! =p |
| 20:18.08 | Gnarfoz | Zorbrix <3 |
| 20:20.24 | Thunder_Child | Yea, my board is a bit long in the tooth at z87. |
| 20:21.34 | nevcairiel | i only got 32 on mine though, 16gb modules are still expensive, and i really dont do things that need more ram |
| 20:21.40 | nevcairiel | i could go 64 if i ever wanted to |
| 20:21.54 | nevcairiel | (or even 128 by throwing the old ram away, but you know) |
| 20:24.11 | Gnarfoz | I just unboxed a server with 512 GiB today, which isn't even much these days |
| 20:24.12 | Gnarfoz | time flies |
| 20:24.22 | nevcairiel | server live in different categories =p |
| 20:24.31 | bshelden | I could probably use that much ram in a server contenxt. |
| 20:24.47 | bshelden | But then I often find myself running two minecraft instances, a mumble server, and a website. |
| 20:25.03 | Gnarfoz | 2 of which consume ram and two of which barely do |
| 20:25.04 | nevcairiel | two of those things shouldnt need that much ram |
| 20:25.11 | Gnarfoz | :D nev |
| 20:25.28 | nevcairiel | and minecraft is java, it likes to crap out on very high ram usage no matter what you do =p |
| 20:25.31 | bshelden | The MC community takes after the original when it comes to ram efficency. |
| 20:25.53 | Gnarfoz | https://twitter.com/Gnarfoz/status/762740405930758145 there is still hope! |
| 20:26.07 | Gnarfoz | you'd think that's something they could hotfix (even before the massive changes with 7.0) |
| 20:26.08 | bshelden | mutters something about how it's possible to be ram efficent in the JVM if you EVEN BOTHER TO LEARN THE ABSOLUTE BASICS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD WHAT IS TH*coughs and cuts himself off* |
| 20:26.12 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: seems unlikely to hit hotfix priority |
| 20:26.27 | nevcairiel | its probably something they can do, but will they? |
| 20:26.30 | Gnarfoz | I bet someone just copied the fucking garrison hearthstone from 6.0 and renamed it |
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| 20:26.45 | bshelden | Also part of it is that you have a single JVM running code written by a good 40 people who have very different ideas on how to write software. |
| 20:26.56 | Gnarfoz | some among them: no idea at all |
| 20:27.05 | bshelden | For many it's an entry to programming. |
| 20:27.09 | bshelden | So I do try to cut them some slack. |
| 20:27.17 | Gnarfoz | cut them, alright |
| 20:27.19 | bshelden | It's the vetrans I get all crotchety old man about. |
| 20:27.20 | Gnarfoz | not sure about slack. |
| 20:27.40 | Gnarfoz | your into crocheting? |
| 20:27.53 | bshelden | No, though I do intend to learn knitting in the next year or so. |
| 20:28.20 | bshelden | My wife can make physical things. I'm a little envious of that skill. I only make imaginary things. |
| 20:28.22 | nevcairiel | gotta be able to make yourself some cloth after the society collapses? |
| 20:28.52 | bshelden | Society collapses and I'm running to the hills and making myself a crude log cabin. |
| 20:29.00 | bshelden | I think I still remember how. Grew up with a carpenter. |
| 20:29.58 | Gnarfoz | I'd prefer a regular cabin over a logarithmic one every day |
| 20:30.17 | bshelden | I might invert it. Exponential living space! |
| 20:30.43 | Gnarfoz | don't break the universe |
| 20:31.08 | bshelden | I'll add to it with small sticks when I need more space. |
| 20:31.11 | nevcairiel | but if you invert it, you have no roof |
| 20:31.24 | bshelden | The floor will double as a roof. |
| 20:31.35 | bshelden | I'll just make a triangular basement |
| 20:31.51 | bshelden | But hey, if math buildings are alowed, I'll just build into pocket space and problem solved. |
| 20:41.29 | mckenziemc | VIad: you could fix https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/tbag-shefki |
| 20:42.10 | mckenziemc | shakes fist at adibags sorting BoE and soulbound armor together. |
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| 20:54.54 | Infus | TheDanW: I've produced another self-contained, as small as could make it, test case for a WeakAuras bug: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=317668#post317668 |
| 20:56.56 | TheDanW | Infus: thanks, i'll take a look |
| 20:59.46 | karl_w_w | VIad these sunsfan fans are amazing :P |
| 21:03.13 | Semlar | it's scrollframes all the way down |
| 21:05.27 | Infus | TheDanW: no need to thank me, thank you though |
| 21:12.23 | Gnarfoz | this is so much fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUHlVdqRlPA |
| 21:13.16 | Gnarfoz | TheDanW: indeed, great to have you here. |
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| 22:33.24 | g0urra | so beta is shutting down now huh? |
| 22:33.47 | TheDanW | glad to help when i can! i was once an addon developer too, sort of still am i suppose |
| 22:34.03 | TheDanW | but the code snippets like the ones on the wowi bug forums really help |
| 22:35.38 | nevcairiel | what makes you think that g0urra |
| 22:36.05 | nevcairiel | (unless you just meant shutdown for quick maintenance, yours sounds so .. final! :p) |
| 22:36.28 | g0urra | but it does say "Shutdown in..." in-game :p |
| 22:38.53 | xmyno | shutdown != beta over |
| 22:39.29 | g0urra | say it aint so |
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| 23:03.08 | ccox | They said 30 minute maintenance |
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