| 00:03.16 | Simca_ | if the user uninstalls the addon, the channel will still be registered and they will be spammed with nonsense until they /leave |
| 00:03.40 | Simca_ | at least, that was the case back in the day with a few different addons |
| 00:03.57 | Simca_ | but that was before SendAddonMessage existed |
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| 00:17.28 | Torhal | To properly answer: SendAddonMessage sends messages between AddOns - they aren't user-facing. That would require extra code to get them to show in the chat frame. |
| 00:18.09 | Torhal | They're more intended for "Hey, here's some information!" that the other instances of that particular AddOn (usually) will respond to. |
| 00:28.11 | mukunda | In this case the messages aren't meant to be shown in the chat frame at all, and I'm wondering why the devs didn't decide on using SendAddonMessage, which, in my eyes, is more appropriate, at the very least not filling the player's /chatlogs with addon data. I'm mainly referring to roleplaying addons that use the xtensiontooltip2 channel to broadcast requests. |
| 00:28.50 | Torhal | mukunda: I'd wager that's legacy stuff and they didn't want to break it. |
| 00:29.22 | Torhal | Though considering how bad the old way is, I'd totally break it were it my decision |
| 00:30.02 | Simca_ | yeah there's a reason it was implemented - even blizzard didn't like the old way |
| 00:30.25 | mukunda | That would make sense; are chat-channel addon messages a recent development? Recent as in... 5-6 years? |
| 00:30.47 | Simca_ | Wrath era, I think? |
| 00:31.07 | Simca_ | I think it was after the 2.0 overhaul but before too long |
| 00:31.20 | Torhal | Yeah, WotLK is when I first started seeing SendAddonMessage |
| 00:31.48 | Simca_ | oi, apparently 1.12! |
| 00:31.58 | Torhal | Huh |
| 00:32.18 | Torhal | Oh, they added WHISPER in 2.1 |
| 00:32.25 | Torhal | That's what made it viable for such things. |
| 00:32.36 | Simca_ | so it's only been around for over 10 years, mukunda, very recent |
| 00:32.49 | Gnarfoz | don't expect high adoption rates /this/ early |
| 00:32.50 | Simca_ | basically yesterday |
| 00:32.50 | Torhal | And I'm misremembering its origin time because it was around then that I wrote Spamalyzer |
| 00:33.14 | Gnarfoz | also remember: WoW is dead |
| 00:33.16 | mukunda | In other words... uh... forever? Why'd they choose to use text messages? ... |
| 00:33.29 | Gnarfoz | mukunda: the most likely reason: ignorance |
| 00:33.39 | Simca_ | yep, that is the #1 reason |
| 00:33.40 | Torhal | Or backward-compatibility from TBC days |
| 00:33.49 | Torhal | "We don't want to break existing RP AddOns!" |
| 00:33.52 | Torhal | ... |
| 00:33.55 | Torhal | So yeah, ignorance. |
| 00:33.57 | Torhal | >.> |
| 00:34.04 | mukunda | Heh, okay... I just didn't want to blindly go with what seemed preferrable if there may be some hidden quirks that might break my protocol. I've seen some forum posts about addon-messages being dropped in some cases, but those reports weren't directly related, and have even gotten blue responses reporting that they've been fixed. |
| 00:34.33 | kd3 | unless they're doing something way out of line, addon messages get through just fine |
| 00:34.37 | Simca_ | i think blizzard's incentive in this that they don't have to keep logs of addon messages |
| 00:34.44 | kd3 | there's always ChatThrottleLib if necessary |
| 00:34.55 | Gnarfoz | that's also quite ancient |
| 00:35.18 | Simca_ | "You've been muted for flooding!" |
| 00:35.35 | Simca_ | the glory days |
| 00:36.00 | mukunda | If it works it works, right? :^) --although there is Bor's verison, libbw, that seems like a decent replacement. |
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| 00:47.34 | mukunda | Any recommended event-trace addons? Basically, I just want /etrace but with the ability to specify just one event that I want to listen to rather than closing out all of the other ones. If only /etrace had a parameter of the event you want to listen for. . . |
| 00:48.39 | Simca_ | oh, i know this one |
| 00:49.10 | Simca_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.54 | mukunda | Ah, that works, I guess. :^) |
| 00:50.04 | Neffi | I usually just mylib:register_event("EVENT_NAME", print) |
| 00:50.21 | Neffi | I _think_ print tostringall()s the args |
| 00:50.32 | mukunda | I think so too. |
| 00:50.58 | Simca_ | yeah print handles nulls |
| 00:51.36 | Simca_ | i like the eventtrace way a lot more though |
| 00:56.13 | Semlar | the main reason addons don't often create their own channels is because it's difficult to join a hidden chat channel without screwing up the rest of the channels |
| 00:57.00 | Torhal | I'm sure you've found a way to do it with a ScrollFrame, Semlar. |
| 00:57.06 | Semlar | also you're only sending messages to people on your own server, and CRZ kind of ruins everything |
| 00:57.18 | pompy1 | https://www.facebook.com/FOX5NY/videos/10154473005201320/ thats pretty sad/bad |
| 01:06.40 | mukunda | @Semlar, right, my question was just in regard to rp addons that use a common channel for broadcasting data, and why they would use chat messages instead of addon messages |
| 01:07.57 | Semlar | because you can't SendAddonMessage to a channel |
| 01:08.25 | Semlar | if you're talking about using General or something |
| 01:09.14 | mukunda | they use a custom channel |
| 01:09.19 | Semlar | if you go through all the work of setting up your own hidden channel it doesn't matter what you use |
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| 01:09.31 | mukunda | and its not a chat message, its protocol data |
| 01:10.31 | Semlar | i don't know if you can SendAddonMessage over a custom channel either, i just know you can't do it with official channels |
| 01:11.08 | mukunda | ive tested and it looks like it works, and i would prefer addon messagesâfor various reasons including not clogging the chat logs with data, but was simply wondering if theres a reason to avoid it, since existing addons dont seem to use that method |
| 01:11.20 | Mr_Rabies | does jailborc ever hang out in here, i forget |
| 01:11.29 | Semlar | if it works then i don't know why you wouldn't use it |
| 01:11.38 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 01:11.42 | Mr_Rabies | jaliborc |
| 01:12.13 | Semlar | ~seen jaliborc |
| 01:12.16 | purl | i haven't seen 'jaliborc', Semlar |
| 01:12.16 | mukunda | right, me neither, hence the question why existing addons dont ._. -- the suggested answer here being ignorance |
| 01:13.14 | Semlar | very few addons create custom comm channels so there aren't very many examples to pick from |
| 01:15.26 | mckenziemc | makes an example of Semlar |
| 01:17.23 | Semlar | i got most of the way through implementing one for an addon to keep track of rares on the timeless isles and decided it was a huge waste of time |
| 01:17.31 | mukunda | thats true, they're mostly rp addons--right now im designing an addon to make guild-like communties |
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| 01:18.41 | Semlar | why not just make a guild |
| 01:18.48 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, scrap broker is still crashing my client despite being updated to 70000 |
| 01:18.48 | Mr_Rabies | neat |
| 01:19.48 | mukunda | that would be simple, wouldnt it :P -- the aim is to make allow creation of chat communities that people can join while still keeping in their preferred guild |
| 01:19.57 | mukunda | to allow* |
| 01:20.55 | Mr_Rabies | i see multi-guilding being the next big social change to wow |
| 01:21.07 | Mr_Rabies | now that sharding 7.0 is in |
| 01:21.09 | Semlar | it kind of undermines the guild they're in though doesn't it |
| 01:21.10 | Simca_ | that's a new level of derp, even for blizzard |
| 01:21.11 | Simca_ | us|f20d6d93e671a481b4871f091c929e6f|69b4d29537b2e81257e5248550765977|0affd9e0d0c6f23d61eda08f4c995a08|44401|3.4.1.44401 |
| 01:21.12 | Simca_ | eu|cde91bfc0f3167bae93c95cdc6157ef6|69b4d29537b2e81257e5248550765977|0affd9e0d0c6f23d61eda08f4c995a08|44401|3.4.0.44401 |
| 01:21.24 | Simca_ | look at the build number and client version, lol |
| 01:21.35 | mukunda | at the very least they could add communities like they have in diablo and such |
| 01:22.23 | mukunda | @Semlar, its a bit different than a guild, guild in this case being something that regularly engages its playerbase, the community just being a way for the players to communicate at their leisure |
| 01:22.31 | Semlar | how do you keep track of members |
| 01:23.47 | Semlar | oh the other thing is someone can become the administrator of a chat channel and then lock everyone else out of it |
| 01:24.16 | Semlar | because you can't just create an addon-only chat channel |
| 01:25.02 | mukunda | right, its a bit ridiculous, the lack of moderation, and i can only hope scenarios like that are avoided. it wont be a single public channel, though, its one per community |
| 01:25.14 | mukunda | essentially, the addon just allows chat channels, but with a little more control, and you can squeeze sub channels into the same channel. there's a bit of trust involved, in that the system can be abused if someone knows lua, but i dont think it will be a common problem. its mostly stateless, but members have a cipher for each channel that theyre part of to send messages |
| 01:27.23 | mukunda | like, i create my_community, and it has channels: members, veterans, and officers, and then i can invite people by sharing my ciphers with them, and then we have a small community of friends. the 'trust' part involved is when i revoke privileges. if someone was to look in their files and save the ciphers, then i cant do that |
| 01:28.09 | mukunda | and, of course, trusting them to not abuse moderator privileges if it gets passed to themâagain, a ridiculous flaw in the chat system |
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| 01:30.30 | mckenziemc | if you append a number to the channel upon finding the expected one has a password, you could eventually find one that's not blocked, since each person trying to lock up channels can only be in 10 :) |
| 01:31.15 | Gnarfoz | Simca_: particularly considering there was no 3.4... or is this a different game, maybe? |
| 01:31.28 | Gnarfoz | yeah. that's sc2 |
| 01:31.38 | Simca_ | yeah sc2 |
| 01:32.04 | mckenziemc | the unreleased troll raid, Gnarfoz ;) |
| 01:32.12 | mukunda | mckenziemc, that doesnt sound like a bad idea at all :P (sarcasm!) |
| 01:32.27 | Torhal | mukunda: Reminds me a bit of http://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/messageboard |
| 01:33.10 | mukunda | messageboard gives me nightmares thinking about how it works |
| 01:33.30 | Gnarfoz | Simca_: but also... https://twitter.com/AlteracValley/status/756974867539435520 |
| 01:35.06 | mukunda | i wish addons had access to external resources... at the very least, if theyre concerned about security issues, there could be an in-game database that addons could use, so they can be a bit stateful with each other while still keeping everything in-game |
| 01:40.32 | mckenziemc | maybe blizzard needs to get together with amazon to make a storage service where you pay for the capacity but blizzard has sole data access so you can only access the data through the game's controlled environment |
| 01:41.46 | mukunda | something... some amazing stuff could be done with a little bit of public storage access |
| 01:43.10 | Simca_ | <mckenziemc> the unreleased troll raid, Gnarfoz ;) |
| 01:43.18 | Simca_ | that's called Legion |
| 01:57.15 | Mr_Rabies | well that's interesting |
| 01:57.17 | Mr_Rabies | [09:56]BadBoy: One of your addons is breaking critical chat data (lineId/guid) I need to work properly :( |
| 01:57.19 | Mr_Rabies | just like, 50 times |
| 01:57.25 | Mr_Rabies | as i crossed into various stormwind shards |
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| 02:11.03 | znf | So... Does anyone know of a process manager/supervisor thatn can run multiple programs/copies of a program with a list of arguments? |
| 02:14.53 | Mr_Rabies | 7.0 is here, librams continue plaguing the auction house |
| 02:14.55 | Mr_Rabies | whyyyyyyyyyy |
| 02:16.51 | mckenziemc | yeah znf, any major operating system |
| 02:16.59 | znf | mckenziemc, batch. |
| 02:17.02 | znf | multiple. |
| 02:17.03 | znf | thingies. |
| 02:17.24 | mckenziemc | multitasking operating systems became common recently |
| 02:17.51 | znf | mckenziemc, supervisor. multiple process supervisor. |
| 02:17.53 | znf | like supervisord |
| 02:18.00 | znf | http://supervisord.org/ |
| 02:22.45 | Simca_ | Mr_Rabies: :< |
| 02:22.48 | Simca_ | i feel your pain |
| 02:27.04 | Trela | znf: http://godrb.com/ |
| 02:27.30 | znf | ew, ruby |
| 02:27.33 | znf | washes hands |
| 02:29.12 | znf | Trela, yeah, not exactly what I was looking for |
| 02:29.17 | Mr_Rabies | me vs blizzard and librams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_2VfODnXPU |
| 02:29.21 | znf | you still seem to need to define all processes manually |
| 02:29.39 | Mr_Rabies | i could have probably timelinked to skip the intro |
| 02:29.40 | Mr_Rabies | oh well |
| 02:29.43 | Trela | Well, since it is in Ruby, it is easy to modify to not have it do that. :D |
| 02:35.55 | jro | how do you calculate a current spells cds since getspellcooldown returns just the time the spell was cast? |
| 02:36.09 | jro | GetTime() - SpellTime? |
| 02:36.58 | jro | actually think i just got it |
| 02:47.50 | Semlar | Mr_Rabies: is one of your addons breaking critical chat data |
| 02:48.05 | Mr_Rabies | it's called "world of warcraft" |
| 02:48.13 | Mr_Rabies | should i uninstall it |
| 02:48.20 | Semlar | it's probably for the best |
| 02:48.27 | Mr_Rabies | it's only 56GB, it should be fine to leave it |
| 02:52.15 | Mr_Rabies | (also when the hell is garbage collection coming to casc wtf) |
| 02:52.29 | kd3 | never, most likely |
| 03:01.21 | Mr_Rabies | so everyone is gonna have to redownload the whole game every expansion to avoid it just eating the whole damned hard drive? |
| 03:02.15 | pompy1 | my folder is 48gb |
| 03:03.37 | Mr_Rabies | 55.2 GB |
| 03:03.38 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
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| 03:06.26 | Mr_Rabies | scan and repair tool should at least dump trash files |
| 03:06.27 | Mr_Rabies | :< |
| 03:13.08 | znf | Mr_Rabies, delete all files in the data folder |
| 03:13.11 | znf | use scan & repair tool |
| 03:13.11 | znf | done |
| 03:13.12 | znf | ??! |
| 03:32.24 | Semlar | you forgot the step where he redownloads 50gb |
| 03:35.05 | znf | Semlar, wanna kill your browser? |
| 03:35.16 | Semlar | no |
| 03:35.37 | znf | http://188.241.146.107/ go here |
| 03:35.42 | znf | and toggle "scanned locations" |
| 03:35.44 | znf | you'll enjoy it |
| 03:35.48 | Semlar | this sounds like a bad idea |
| 03:35.52 | mckenziemc | well, time to infect this computer with windows 10 |
| 03:36.55 | znf | You should see something like this, Semlar http://i.imgur.com/vDks99X.jpg |
| 03:36.56 | Primer | In case anyone cares: [20:36:20] Healers Have To Die_NPH: Debug:[354.121]: LNR 14 frame reference not found in active plates: nil |
| 03:37.08 | Primer | when mousing over units |
| 03:38.02 | Semlar | are you in a beehive |
| 03:38.33 | znf | kind of? |
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| 04:35.34 | Semlar | TheDanW: is there some way to check if C_Transmog.GetItemInfo is going to return valid data for a potentially uncached item |
| 04:48.34 | Simca_ | what do you mean semlar |
| 04:48.54 | Simca_ | the server could contain new items, there should be no way to do that without a server interaction |
| 04:49.41 | Semlar | C_Transmog.GetItemInfo tells you that an item does not exist if it isn't cached and triggers no event when the information becomes available |
| 04:51.26 | Semlar | right now i'm using GetItemInfoInstant to check whether an item might exist, then calling GetItemInfo to see if it's cached and trigger GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED |
| 04:51.26 | Simca_ | it should use the same code as GameTooltip:SetItem in terms of GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED if it isn't. |
| 04:51.43 | Simca_ | GetItemInfoInstant is not an assurance |
| 04:51.46 | Semlar | i know |
| 04:51.52 | Semlar | which is why this is an issue |
| 04:52.19 | Simca_ | I mean if GetItemInfoInstant returns nil, the item can still exist. |
| 04:52.38 | Semlar | well it also returns information for items you can't get information with |
| 04:52.42 | Simca_ | yes |
| 04:52.44 | Simca_ | that too |
| 04:52.58 | Semlar | so i don't know what to do |
| 04:53.05 | nevcairiel | from what I have seen, C_Transmog.GetItemInfo just flat out fails if you give it item links, if you give it a itemid it works |
| 04:53.13 | nevcairiel | despite it clamiing it accepts links |
| 04:53.14 | Semlar | yeah it only uses itemIDs |
| 04:53.42 | Semlar | but regardless of that, it doesn't distinguish between the itemID you're calling it on not existing and not being cached |
| 04:54.11 | Semlar | and since it doesn't trigger an event you can't handle it like you would GetItemInfo |
| 04:54.29 | Simca_ | yeah you need to use GetItemInfo before every call |
| 04:54.30 | Semlar | i'll try using a tooltip |
| 04:54.45 | Semlar | although that is the same problem isn't it |
| 04:54.48 | Simca_ | yes |
| 04:55.03 | Simca_ | the tooltip will say Retrieving Item Information in red text on line1left |
| 04:55.11 | Simca_ | until GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED goes through |
| 04:55.16 | Simca_ | if it isn't cached |
| 04:55.46 | Simca_ | I actually don't bother with the API at all in my addon to scan them |
| 04:55.54 | Simca_ | I just set tooltips on everything |
| 04:56.57 | nevcairiel | i've been thinking about making some wardrobe/transmog addon, but the ugly API is such a deterrence, why dont they have a function like GetAppearanceIDFromItemID |
| 04:56.57 | Semlar | do you have an example of an item GetItemInfoInstant returns nil for |
| 04:57.34 | Semlar | i'm actually putting together a transmog lib to hopefully avoid some of the issues with the api |
| 04:57.42 | Simca_ | i can find one, probably |
| 04:57.46 | Simca_ | let me see |
| 04:57.57 | nevcairiel | well one main problem is that the dressup model thing is also super slow |
| 04:58.03 | Semlar | slow? |
| 04:58.26 | nevcairiel | try scanning a large-ish list of items if the player knows their appearance with that |
| 04:58.29 | nevcairiel | its just slow |
| 04:59.00 | Simca_ | GetAppearanceIDFromItemID is a problem for them because one itemID can have a variety of appearanceIDs depending on bonusIDs |
| 04:59.12 | Simca_ | GetAppearanceIDFromItemLink would work fine though |
| 04:59.17 | Simca_ | and be easy for the community |
| 04:59.31 | nevcairiel | that would be fine, was just an example :d |
| 05:00.30 | Fisker | hugs Cairenn |
| 05:00.37 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 05:01.04 | Simca_ | i wonder if it would just be more practical at this point to make a lookup list into a library |
| 05:01.16 | Simca_ | you avoid all the slowdowns that way, in exchange for some memory |
| 05:02.01 | nevcairiel | there is just so many items though |
| 05:02.15 | Semlar | i actually don't know if you can build a complete list using the in-game api |
| 05:02.30 | Semlar | some of the functions only work for the player |
| 05:03.10 | Semlar | i mean yeah you could do it outside the game |
| 05:03.22 | Semlar | i was hoping not to |
| 05:04.56 | Simca_ | let me post the CSVs in case somebody cares to |
| 05:06.40 | Simca_ | one of the columns in ItemAppearance baffles me |
| 05:06.45 | Simca_ | it is the ID column multiplied by 100 |
| 05:06.48 | Simca_ | for every row |
| 05:06.55 | Semlar | i can make the model at least ten times faster than my previous example by streamlining this |
| 05:07.09 | Semlar | some of this is not necessary |
| 05:07.52 | Semlar | SetUnit is massively slowing it down |
| 05:08.16 | Semlar | and it only needs to be set when the model doesn't exist |
| 05:09.16 | Semlar | might need to monitor it though, because i don't trust the model sticking around for the whole session if you just set it once |
| 05:10.00 | Semlar | i've had models randomly unload themselves |
| 05:11.24 | Simca_ | i hate myself a lot some days, but I don't think I could ever hate myself enough to use an API that forced you to load models to retrieve data values that have nothing to do with models |
| 05:11.34 | Primer | I'm alone in a skirmish... |
| 05:11.36 | Semlar | >_> |
| 05:11.53 | nevcairiel | thats why my wardrobe addon didnt really go anywhere yet |
| 05:11.57 | nevcairiel | its just so terrible |
| 05:12.04 | Semlar | hey, at least it sort of works |
| 05:12.43 | Primer | Archarodim: [22:10:03] Healers Have To Die_NPH: Debug:[5976.690]: LNR 14 frame reference not found in active plates: nil <-- when mousing over NPCs and such in the game |
| 05:12.46 | Semlar | what more could you want |
| 05:12.57 | Simca_ | sanity |
| 05:13.16 | Simca_ | but that's a stretch, i'd settle for mild insanity |
| 05:13.29 | Simca_ | anyway, http://www.mediafire.com/download/7xx4xfy9dszo0qt/ItemAppearance_22201.zip if you want to take the library approach |
| 05:13.31 | nevcairiel | at this point it might be more sane to check for the tooltip line if i still need an item for mogging |
| 05:14.16 | Simca_ | I included ItemDisplayInfo*.db2 as well, in case you want to go a step beyond Blizzard |
| 05:14.35 | Simca_ | in some rare cases, two identical rows can exist in ItemDisplayInfo with different IDs but same everything else |
| 05:14.37 | Primer | Ok, there were 2 rogues, but the arena frames never filled |
| 05:14.52 | Simca_ | the game would treat it as two different appearances, but you could be better than that if you wanted. |
| 05:15.49 | Semlar | when i wrote an addon to tell you about duplicate item appearances, i ran into conflicts where 2 items would be completely identical, except one would be only usable by shaman or something |
| 05:16.14 | Semlar | that was way earlier in WoD though |
| 05:16.31 | Semlar | i was trying to figure out what i could safely drop from my inventory based on what was in my void storage |
| 05:16.33 | Simca_ | ah yeah, you need classmask then then |
| 05:16.47 | Simca_ | which means you need item-sparse too |
| 05:16.51 | Semlar | well i suspect the duplicates might be class restricted in your database |
| 05:17.06 | Semlar | because you can't treat them as the same appearance |
| 05:17.15 | Simca_ | yeah |
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| 05:18.17 | Simca_ | I don't know what exactly the transmog API returns |
| 05:18.33 | Semlar | because if i'm on my shaman and i've collected the class-restricted version, it's not safe for me to delete the other version of the item, because i wouldn't have unlocked its appearance for my other characters |
| 05:18.55 | Simca_ | but ItemModifiedAppearance/ItemAppearance/ItemDisplayInfo is specifically split like that for a reason, and that's to bypass having to have all of item-sparse loaded |
| 05:18.56 | Semlar | even though they're identical |
| 05:19.11 | Simca_ | for example, there is a 'slot' column in ItemAppearance |
| 05:19.17 | Simca_ | even though it is redundant |
| 05:19.39 | Simca_ | so it shouldn't need to contact the server to return things |
| 05:19.48 | Simca_ | unless it is returning information about the item itself |
| 05:20.14 | Simca_ | the appearanceID lookup should be solid regardless of whether the item itself is cached |
| 05:20.35 | nevcairiel | well it would, if there was an api that did just that and not need to go through a dressupmodel |
| 05:20.54 | nevcairiel | .. which probably needs to load full item info then |
| 05:20.59 | Simca_ | yeah it does |
| 05:21.26 | Semlar | can you explain why they needed to make a "source ID" that as far as i can tell just represents a particular item ID |
| 05:22.16 | Simca_ | SourceID might mean ItemAppearanceID (API team likes to take rename everything because they can) |
| 05:22.26 | Simca_ | in which case it is the bonusID problem |
| 05:22.35 | Semlar | oh i see |
| 05:22.49 | Semlar | you can't just use the item ID because it could be modified |
| 05:23.36 | Torhal | Simca_: Rename? You mean, in certain places right? Because it isn't uncommon to see three completely different terms for the same thing. |
| 05:23.37 | Semlar | still it could have just taken an item link |
| 05:24.17 | Simca_ | yeah, bonusID modifier type 8 (iirc) applies a value to the item. Blizzard actually names this at one point in their API as 'AppearanceModID' (a term which I then stole for my column name because it was better than LEGION_UNK4) |
| 05:24.30 | Simca_ | Torhal: yeah that too |
| 05:24.58 | Semlar | "map ID" |
| 05:25.03 | Simca_ | map ID is awful |
| 05:25.07 | Semlar | plz no |
| 05:25.31 | Simca_ | almost everything they call a 'map' is actually internally called a 'WorldMap' and is very different from a 'Map' |
| 05:25.59 | Torhal | maps Semlar to a texture. |
| 05:26.10 | Xuerian | "When you stare into the void, the void stares back.", or something |
| 05:26.25 | Semlar | the void is dark and full of maps |
| 05:26.51 | Simca_ | I think they're trying to dumb concepts down for the addon authors |
| 05:26.58 | Torhal | I wouldn't be surprised if Semlar had a library he uses internally that has a POIScrollFrame object. |
| 05:27.15 | Simca_ | because real maps would almost never be exposed via the API, except on like zone change |
| 05:27.28 | Torhal | Or even a POINameplateScrollFrame. |
| 05:27.41 | Semlar | i did put my nameplates in scrollframes at one point |
| 05:27.57 | Torhal | But do your POIs have Nameplates? |
| 05:28.01 | Semlar | not yet |
| 05:28.03 | Torhal | :O |
| 05:28.09 | Semlar | soon.. |
| 05:28.53 | Simca_ | "hey blizzard, I noticed that garbage is sometimes accumulating during the FPS drops that happens when my nameplates are playing attached video clips in a perpetually scrolling frame, could you fix it?" |
| 05:29.14 | Simca_ | semlar IRL |
| 05:29.25 | Semlar | i think dan put me on ignore |
| 05:29.31 | Simca_ | lol |
| 05:29.57 | Semlar | they're perfectly valid questions! |
| 05:31.19 | Simca_ | i'm playing around with my WoW install tonight, going to see if I can get a simple program running to rebuild CASC archives |
| 05:31.38 | Simca_ | I found some old code from 2014 when cleaning out my SSD where I had apparently started on it |
| 05:32.06 | mfgmfg | casc? |
| 05:32.28 | Simca_ | file storage system for Blizzard games |
| 05:33.04 | Semlar | i wonder if i'm misremembering about models getting cleared, i'm unsure what caused it |
| 05:33.11 | kd3 | are all of the current games using casc now? |
| 05:33.21 | Simca_ | yes |
| 05:33.27 | Semlar | i'm fairly sure i tried to make a 3D arrow on screen and it was getting cleared every time i opened my map fullscreen or something |
| 05:33.58 | Semlar | maybe it was being hidden and didn't come back when it was shown |
| 05:34.00 | Simca_ | SC2 still uses MPQ for its map files that it shares via online downloads (only MPQ use). and the Battle.net App' |
| 05:34.10 | Simca_ | s catalog is still done via LDAP instead of NGDP. |
| 05:34.23 | Simca_ | but those are the only two exceptions to the NGDP/CASC use |
| 05:37.36 | Torhal | Semlar: Look at how TomTom does it. |
| 05:37.48 | Torhal | He uses a model for his 3D arrow. |
| 05:38.01 | Semlar | i thought he used a texture and settexcoord |
| 05:38.18 | Torhal | Last I saw, there was an .m2 file in there. |
| 05:38.20 | Torhal | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 05:38.32 | Semlar | maybe just to throw you off |
| 05:38.50 | Torhal | It's no longer there. |
| 05:38.54 | Torhal | So yeah, ok. |
| 05:39.01 | Torhal | Oh |
| 05:39.04 | Torhal | Yes it is: |
| 05:39.20 | Torhal | TomTom/Images/Arrow.m2 |
| 05:40.23 | Semlar | i don't think you can even load your own model into the game |
| 05:40.54 | Semlar | i think he still uses a texture |
| 05:41.59 | Semlar | that's what the blps are |
| 05:42.02 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (~RyanNL@104-180-66-29.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:43.00 | Semlar | i have never attempted to load a custom model so i'm not sure |
| 05:43.22 | Simca_ | i think you could once but you certainly can't now |
| 05:43.46 | Simca_ | not in this brave new ID-based world |
| 05:44.14 | Xuerian | What, they got tired of druids using shapeshifts that looked good? |
| 05:44.45 | Simca_ | i assume people stopped doing that years ago when the bans started |
| 05:44.53 | Simca_ | people would replace player models with ragnaros |
| 05:45.03 | Simca_ | grats now you know where the enemy team is in a BG 24/7 |
| 05:46.10 | Semlar | now i can just set my nameplate range to the entire battleground |
| 05:46.23 | Torhal | Semlar: Yeah, he has an Arrow.blp and an Arrow.m2, and the .blp is definitely a map. |
| 05:46.53 | Semlar | the m2 file is just to trick people into thinking he's using it |
| 05:46.55 | Torhal | Also no mention of Model, but there's a SetTexture call on TomTom_CrazyArrow |
| 05:47.02 | Torhal | Dat's silly. |
| 05:47.12 | A-KO | gotta love bailing family out of shit |
| 05:47.14 | A-KO | sighs |
| 05:47.16 | A-KO | $800 later... |
| 05:47.23 | A-KO | and my sister won't go to jail! |
| 05:47.24 | A-KO | weee |
| 05:47.36 | Torhal | A-KO: Eww |
| 05:47.37 | Xuerian | Can you RMA her? |
| 05:47.50 | Simca_ | i'm guessing it was something he used years ago and then switched over to a blizzard texture |
| 05:47.51 | Torhal | Semlar: There's a file called ArrowLicense.txt that says: |
| 05:47.54 | Torhal | "Everyone has full permission to do whatever they want with this model file in any non-commercial manner. Attribution to "Guillotine" is nice, but not necessary. For any commrcial use, contact me first at curse.guillotine@gmail.com |
| 05:47.55 | Torhal | " |
| 05:47.57 | Torhal | >.> |
| 05:48.14 | Semlar | so you're saying it's guill's fault |
| 05:48.20 | Torhal | Indeed. |
| 05:48.24 | Semlar | i knew it.. |
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| 06:05.19 | HumanRegret | Evening guys |
| 06:05.44 | Semlar | it's just not the same when he's not in the channel |
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| 06:09.28 | HumanRegret | I'm sorry :( |
| 06:11.25 | Semlar | it's okay, it's not your fault |
| 06:11.29 | Semlar | or is it |
| 06:14.50 | HumanRegret | it may just be |
| 06:14.51 | HumanRegret | who knows |
| 06:14.59 | HumanRegret | I am the epitome of regret after all |
| 06:15.30 | HumanRegret | I have never touched Wow Addons before so this is gonna be interesting haha |
| 06:18.53 | Cairenn | ~lua |
| 06:18.53 | purl | Lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym. It is the Portuguese word for "moon". |
| 06:18.59 | Cairenn | ~api |
| 06:19.18 | Cairenn | arches an eyebrow at purl |
| 06:19.22 | Cairenn | ~wowapi |
| 06:22.53 | Cairenn | pokes purl |
| 06:24.16 | Semlar | ~emulate purl |
| 06:24.16 | purl | Mwhaha, fear my spam! |
| 06:24.38 | Semlar | ironic really |
| 06:24.57 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 06:25.45 | Cairenn | So, have I somehow managed to forget the trigger, or did someone delete the factoid? |
| 06:26.06 | Semlar | purl does what purl wants |
| 06:26.12 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:27.47 | Cairenn | ~poke |
| 06:27.55 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 06:28.56 | Cairenn | ~botsnack |
| 06:28.56 | purl | aw, gee, Cairenn |
| 06:29.02 | Semlar | ~help |
| 06:29.05 | Cairenn | Okay, wtf |
| 06:33.47 | Fisker | LUA's Used as an Acronym |
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| 06:35.40 | Fisker | accidentally hugs Cairenn on purpose |
| 06:35.47 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:35.49 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 06:36.13 | Semlar | ~fiskerslap fisker |
| 06:36.13 | purl | ACTION slaps fisker around a bit with Fisker. |
| 06:36.24 | Semlar | looks like the important functionality is there |
| 06:36.55 | Cairenn | Just weird some of the things that I was positive were triggers don't seem to be working |
| 06:37.21 | Semlar | well the help list is clearly not a complete list |
| 06:39.10 | Semlar | ~translate la lua es en mi pantalones |
| 06:39.22 | Semlar | alright the help list is just a lie |
| 06:39.47 | Cairenn | Yeah, something has definitely happened to purl |
| 06:40.02 | Cairenn | Also, I certainly hope not :p |
| 06:41.17 | Miiru | The moon is in my pants? |
| 06:41.27 | Semlar | are you wearing my pants |
| 06:41.27 | Miiru | or is pantalones shoes? |
| 06:41.36 | Semlar | shoes are zapatos |
| 06:41.45 | Primer | ./LibNameplateRegistry-1.0/LibNameplateRegistry-1.0.lua: Debug(WARNING, 'frame reference not found in active plates:', mouseoverNameplate); |
| 06:42.05 | Miiru | ok pantoufle is house shoe in french so i thought maybe its the same |
| 06:42.12 | Semlar | house is hasienda |
| 06:42.15 | AcidWeb | Soo that SetTexture() loading for disk nightmare is a bug or new way of life in 7.0? |
| 06:42.22 | Primer | Semlar: Hacienda* |
| 06:42.36 | AcidWeb | Anybody have some insights? |
| 06:42.37 | Semlar | i took 2 whole years of spanish, i'm basically an expert |
| 06:42.44 | Miiru | :D |
| 06:43.06 | Semlar | wait more than 2 years if you count the fact that i had to take it in summer school |
| 06:43.06 | Primer | Semlar: I speak fluent Portuguese, so that makes me an expert at Spanish |
| 06:43.35 | Semlar | although to be fair i also failed english and i speak english |
| 06:43.51 | Miiru | Je m'achète un croissant fourré au chocolat! |
| 06:44.16 | Semlar | you found a machete in your chocolate? |
| 06:45.31 | Miiru | acheter is buy |
| 06:45.55 | Cairenn | I (I'm not sure what that is, although I think it is bought?) a chocolat croissant |
| 06:45.55 | Semlar | i got into an argument with my spanish teacher about the fact that a scorpion wasn't an insect |
| 06:46.09 | Semlar | that's mostly what i remember from spanish class |
| 06:46.33 | Miiru | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Pain_au_chocolat_Luc_Viatour.jpg ;) |
| 06:47.24 | Semlar | how do you smuggle a machete in that |
| 06:47.34 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:49.31 | Miiru | I didnt know many people got headaches and sickness since the patch, that puts my recent migraines in a new perspective |
| 06:51.17 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 06:53.20 | Cairenn | nm |
| 07:19.21 | jleclanche | Cairenn: am i misremembering? the original author of Authy used to hang out here, right? |
| 07:19.29 | jleclanche | i forgot his name |
| 07:19.32 | Cairenn | Yeah |
| 07:19.39 | jleclanche | what was his nick? |
| 07:20.08 | jleclanche | IIRC authy was on google code but apparently its closed source now :( |
| 07:20.28 | Cairenn | Don't recall, should, but don't |
| 07:20.37 | jleclanche | psh :) |
| 07:23.07 | jleclanche | Cairenn: zero google hits on authy in this channel :( sad |
| 07:23.33 | [TOM_RUS] | nice localization http://imgur.com/a/A5Crq, 2 spells with exact same name... |
| 07:24.00 | Cairenn | ~logs |
| 07:24.00 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://purl.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 07:24.15 | Cairenn | jleclanche: you can try doing a search in there |
| 07:24.26 | jleclanche | Cairenn: that's where i searched yeah |
| 07:24.32 | Cairenn | ah, okay |
| 07:53.37 | HumanRegret | i know lua |
| 07:53.45 | HumanRegret | but how do i interact with xml elements with lua? |
| 07:53.53 | HumanRegret | do i just need to use a return function? |
| 08:06.07 | Miiru | most people would advise you not to use xml I think^^ |
| 08:14.45 | HumanRegret | oh okay haha |
| 08:15.05 | HumanRegret | i can draw everything onto screen via lua? |
| 08:15.55 | Miiru | I am not 100% sure but I think so |
| 08:19.08 | Miiru | I think templates are xml only |
| 08:19.35 | nevcairiel | you can always simulate templates by simple making a factory function |
| 08:19.57 | HumanRegret | factory function? |
| 08:23.12 | HumanRegret | looks simple enough |
| 08:25.13 | Miiru | Now that we can collect appearances, the only stuff I get from boxes is rings and amulets |
| 08:25.27 | HumanRegret | haha |
| 08:53.44 | relaxok | huh, what are the requirements for #mytable being correct.. i'm doing like mytable["1"] = blah, mytable["2"] = blrgh, etc.. in that example shouldnt #mytable be 2? |
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| 08:54.42 | relaxok | i have no idea how this code broke |
| 08:55.34 | nevcairiel | no |
| 08:55.52 | nevcairiel | the # operator only works with consecutive numeric table indexes |
| 08:55.57 | Maldivia | relaxok: you have associative table, # is numerical indexes |
| 08:55.57 | nevcairiel | you are using strings |
| 08:56.25 | relaxok | damn then |
| 08:56.41 | relaxok | i guess GetAvailableClasses() used to return an associative table |
| 09:01.11 | HumanRegret | does bossN work just as boss1, boss2, boss3 |
| 09:03.32 | relaxok | Maldivia: can it start at non-zero? |
| 09:04.44 | diesal | has anyone deciphered the new "lineID" format from "UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED" |
| 09:08.11 | nevcairiel | its really not all that complicated, but its also not really necessary to understand whats in it |
| 09:10.02 | nevcairiel | its a typical GUID, 3-[server id]-[instance id]-[zone uid]-[spell id]-[cast UID] |
| 09:13.54 | nevcairiel | the spell id is the only interesting part of info in it, and that one is provided separately as another argument on the event |
| 09:14.30 | diesal | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:14.37 | diesal | thnks |
| 09:16.39 | diesal | much better matching spells now rather then a iterating 255 count |
| 09:18.13 | nevcairiel | you can just use the full field, you dont need to split it |
| 09:26.41 | Archarodim | Primer: thank you for reporting this, debug printing is turned on and set to warning level in alpha packages of HHTD. you can disable debug by typing /hhtd debug. This warning doesn't have any consequence, it'll be fixed in next libnameplateregistry |
| 09:29.41 | Primer | FYI I picked beta |
| 09:41.43 | HumanRegret | this is probably going to be a silly question, but would anyone by chance have a skeleton addon icould look at to see how people are constructing theirs? |
| 09:44.02 | Archarodim | There is one very small that serves as an example implementation of libnameplateregistry: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libnameplateregistry-1-0/pages/api/ |
| 09:44.24 | HumanRegret | thanks |
| 09:44.34 | HumanRegret | I feel like I'm doing mine wrong |
| 09:44.48 | Archarodim | you can also take a look at Sheepdog a very simple add-on I made a few years ago: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sheepdog/ |
| 09:46.29 | HumanRegret | is it wise to use ace? |
| 09:46.36 | HumanRegret | i was just using the wow api |
| 09:50.40 | diesal | depends what you want to do |
| 09:50.58 | HumanRegret | unitframes at the moment |
| 09:55.30 | Archarodim | Ace brings you quite a few benefits and helps you code efficient add-ons |
| 09:56.34 | Archarodim | so yes it's wise especially if your add-on may become complex |
| 09:56.50 | HumanRegret | well it most likely will, so probably best i should |
| 10:00.48 | Andols | Haha, Sheepdog nice name :D |
| 10:08.25 | diesal | hmm UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT must be dispatched from the server now rather then the client, as the gettime dosnt match up with the time i send the key stroke anymore (it did pre 7.0) |
| 10:13.51 | Tentacled | nevcairiel: you're going to love this one, unless you already know of it. I'm in a Val'sharah cave that, when crossing between floors 14 and 15, only fires WORLD_MAP_UPDATE, and none of the events HBD watches for to detect map/floor changes :/ |
| 10:20.25 | Tentacled | But, if anyone's PlayerZoneChanged hooks call SetMapSomething, they re-issue WMU, which is by then re-registered and we have a stack overflow. I'm suspecting RestoreWMU should happen after the callbacks are fired upon, if HBD were to watch for W_M_U too... |
| 10:21.06 | nevcairiel | watching WMU is not really reliable for anything |
| 10:22.09 | nevcairiel | which cave is that anyway, Tentacled? |
| 10:22.11 | Tentacled | Yup, except this case, and who knows what else... |
| 10:22.33 | Tentacled | Val'sharah floors 14-15, Sleeper's Barrow |
| 10:23.06 | nevcairiel | more interestingly, where is the entrance? =p |
| 10:23.50 | Tentacled | 50.07,85.99 |
| 10:24.54 | nevcairiel | ah that one |
| 10:30.43 | nevcairiel | not even WMU works, if the world map is open then it doesnt switch to the new floor |
| 10:31.48 | nevcairiel | only if you re-open it, it updates |
| 10:35.10 | Tentacled | I'm starting to think a timered check for current floor change might be in order... as fugly as it seems <_< |
| 10:40.44 | nevcairiel | maybe only in microdungeons |
| 10:40.52 | nevcairiel | those are a bit peculiar anyway |
| 10:42.29 | Semlar | it doesn't fire NEW_WMO_CHUNK? |
| 10:42.39 | nevcairiel | no |
| 10:43.17 | nevcairiel | the minimap doesnt change because its not a real "floor", its more like ite extends to the side, so it all fits onto the same minimap tile but not the same worldmap, so it gets a second floor |
| 10:43.40 | Tentacled | <3 consistency :P |
| 10:44.31 | Semlar | well that is unusual |
| 10:44.35 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 10:44.42 | nevcairiel | NEW_WMO_CHUNK was otherwise pretty reliable with daves |
| 10:44.46 | nevcairiel | caves |
| 10:45.02 | Semlar | it ought to be, i honestly thought they couldn't set a different map floor without firing that |
| 10:45.10 | Semlar | because of how WMOs worked |
| 10:45.23 | Tentacled | Hell, not even W_M_U fires, to be exact :> |
| 10:45.34 | HumanRegret | I CANT FEEL MY FACE WHEN IM WITH YOU |
| 10:45.44 | Tentacled | wut |
| 10:45.52 | nevcairiel | the game doesnt know that it changes the floor until you tell it to re-set the current floor :d |
| 10:46.19 | Semlar | the game knows which floor the current map should be set to though |
| 10:46.25 | Tentacled | Re-checking works too, GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel() reports the correct one. |
| 10:46.33 | Semlar | and that's based on the wmo chunk you're standing on |
| 10:46.43 | nevcairiel | apparently they invented magic |
| 10:46.56 | nevcairiel | no zone or map related event fires when crossing that boundary |
| 10:47.57 | Simca_ | i am pretty sure that this is what happens in all microdungeons. |
| 10:48.12 | Simca_ | that are multi-floor |
| 10:48.24 | Simca_ | (given that is a pretty unusual thing, they are almost always 1 floor) |
| 10:48.24 | nevcairiel | maybe that concept is just very rare |
| 10:48.27 | Simca_ | yeah |
| 10:48.40 | Semlar | the caverns of time is one |
| 10:48.42 | Simca_ | the horde place that was going to be a capital in WoD |
| 10:48.47 | HumanRegret | Archarodim, why did you do, local ADDON_NAME, T = ...; ? |
| 10:48.54 | Simca_ | I remember going treasure hunting there and having to constantly open and close my map |
| 10:48.55 | nevcairiel | Simca_: CoT works fine afaik |
| 10:49.24 | nevcairiel | if isMicroDungeon then C_Timer.After(1, UpdateCurrentPosition) end |
| 10:49.27 | nevcairiel | i feel dirty |
| 10:50.08 | Semlar | so it has a new map but doesn't change the area text or anything? |
| 10:50.16 | nevcairiel | no, nothing changes |
| 10:50.17 | nevcairiel | just the map |
| 10:50.23 | Semlar | why does the map change |
| 10:50.35 | nevcairiel | well the map also doesnt change unless you re-open it =p |
| 10:50.41 | Semlar | well i mean why does it have its own map |
| 10:50.48 | nevcairiel | probably didnt fit anymore |
| 10:51.08 | nevcairiel | there is some vertical overlap i think |
| 10:51.36 | Semlar | if you go farther does it fire an event |
| 10:51.45 | Archarodim | HumanRegret: ... is a reference to a common table passed to all files loaded by an add-on. It allows you to share data between files without using global variables |
| 10:51.56 | Semlar | is it just near the edge that it doesn't |
| 10:52.01 | nevcairiel | Semlar: nothing |
| 10:52.02 | HumanRegret | oh sick, thanks a bunch! |
| 10:52.13 | nevcairiel | http://imgur.com/a/owN5Y .. not sure if public, first is level 14, second is level 15 |
| 10:52.43 | Archarodim | HumanRegret: I meant the second element of ..., the first being a string equals to the name of the add-on |
| 10:52.54 | HumanRegret | yeah, got that much haha |
| 10:53.15 | HumanRegret | I'm assuming the T is a table it passes |
| 10:53.41 | Semlar | it could be Tacos |
| 10:53.57 | Semlar | T is fairly ambiguous |
| 10:59.17 | Miiru | so they renamed the hand paladin spells back to blessing oO and I am sitting here, wondering why my macro does not work anymore |
| 11:12.21 | foxlit | civilization! |
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| 11:12.59 | Semlar | internet! |
| 11:15.06 | foxlit | and maybe even power sockets! |
| 11:15.16 | Semlar | let's not get carried away |
| 11:20.47 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:25.47 | Semlar | that is a pretty empty airport |
| 11:26.35 | znf | cool |
| 11:26.39 | znf | airports are neat |
| 11:26.42 | znf | they have planes that fly |
| 11:26.56 | Semlar | gently pats znf |
| 11:32.24 | HumanRegret | should i write a .xml file with the whole screen as the region and use lua functions to create frames inside that so that it inherits from said base frame or is their an easier way to do it? |
| 11:37.28 | Tentacled | nev, maybe you'd feel less dirty if that timer check had an if oldLevel~=GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel() check... :> |
| 12:07.09 | HumanRegret | wait |
| 12:07.10 | HumanRegret | is wow down? |
| 12:07.11 | HumanRegret | D: |
| 12:07.12 | p3lim | Semlar: I tested on my laptop, worked fine there, reinstalled on my desktop and now it's fine there too |
| 12:07.19 | Semlar | problem solved forever |
| 12:07.34 | Semlar | maybe your old installation was cursed? |
| 12:07.50 | p3lim | Wasn't that old, mists maybe? |
| 12:07.50 | foxlit | complaining about things solves 42% of all issues. |
| 12:08.00 | p3lim | foxlit: my man |
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| 12:09.16 | HumanRegret | how am i ever going to figure out if this works if wow is down ahhhhhhhh |
| 12:09.20 | HumanRegret | #firstworldproblems |
| 12:12.31 | HumanRegret | http://hastebin.com/viwefumeqe.lua does that look right? |
| 12:18.13 | foxlit | no; widget (and global) api uses leading capitals. |
| 12:19.00 | Semlar | what is "unitframes" supposed to be |
| 12:19.18 | foxlit | the frame has no anchors, and therefore isn't positioned anywhere. |
| 12:20.03 | foxlit | settexture does not take rgba arguments in 7.0; and color ranges were never 0-255 in that context. |
| 12:20.52 | nevcairiel | there is SetColorTexture for that now |
| 12:22.27 | foxlit | (tangent: why didn't they keep the overload?) |
| 12:23.03 | foxlit | the first seven lines are not connected to the following six, and generally appear to be wishful thinking about things that you might want to do. |
| 12:23.41 | foxlit | (also annoying that :SetTexture(:GetTexture()) can fail now) |
| 12:24.44 | HumanRegret | I'm trying to make a players healthbar :/ |
| 12:26.21 | HumanRegret | should i just anchor it to UIParent? or should i make a frame in the base xml file? |
| 12:28.25 | Semlar | i think they said they were going to add the rgb stuff back into SetTexture at some point in the Future but not now |
| 12:32.11 | foxlit | not only should you anchor it to uiparent, but you should also make it a child of uiparent. |
| 12:33.33 | Simca_ | I don't suppose GetTexture returns something useful like FileDataID |
| 12:33.58 | nevcairiel | it returns whatever you put in there |
| 12:34.20 | nevcairiel | unless you use a mask |
| 12:34.26 | nevcairiel | or some other obscure features |
| 12:34.41 | Simca_ | so if you gave it a string it returns the same string? |
| 12:35.12 | foxlit | I whined about that earlier. |
| 12:35.13 | Semlar | it actually doesn't necessarily give you what you put in there |
| 12:35.44 | Semlar | the last time i checked, it gave you whatever the first thing you used to set the texture with was |
| 12:36.11 | Semlar | so if you set the texture to a file path, and then set the texture to the same file using its file ID, and called GetTexture, you got the file path |
| 12:36.32 | nevcairiel | well if its the exact same texture |
| 12:36.57 | Semlar | what i mean is, if it pulls the texture from memory, i think it uses whatever version of the path you used to put it there |
| 12:36.59 | Simca_ | user textures won't have a filedataID |
| 12:36.59 | HumanRegret | sorry for the 20 questions, but should i do UIParent:Hide() and create a new frame that just inherits UIParent and do NewParent:Show() ? |
| 12:37.09 | Simca_ | that's why they must have done it this way |
| 12:37.41 | foxlit | Meh. |
| 12:37.45 | nevcairiel | its probably just an optimization that bails out early if it notices its the same texture |
| 12:37.49 | nevcairiel | so it doesnt change |
| 12:37.59 | Semlar | not even the same texture object |
| 12:38.11 | znf | Does anyone know if you can "stream" json and have the browser interpret it on the spot? |
| 12:38.18 | znf | Not sure if that makes sense |
| 12:38.41 | Kalroth | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSON_Streaming |
| 12:38.46 | znf | I'm reading that |
| 12:38.50 | foxlit | Should just map user textures to filedata ids anyway :P |
| 12:39.15 | nevcairiel | that would just be confusing since the IDs wouldnt n ecessarily be static |
| 12:39.31 | Semlar | perfect, it'll be just like the rest of the interface |
| 12:39.39 | Kalroth | znf, http://oboejs.com/examples was second link :p |
| 12:40.11 | foxlit | Well, you're only really in trouble if you for some reason want to interpret gettexture returns on user textures. |
| 12:41.11 | foxlit | on an unrelated note, I have these numbers: 0x5a998c1782cbe28e 0x05b0c94e0f811358, and I'm looking for two corresponding numbers. |
| 12:41.23 | Semlar | trying to interpret GetTexture on anything at this point is probably futile |
| 12:42.18 | Tentacled | nevcairiel: that timer will stack if player DOES catch multiple zone-change events in a micro. It may not be very wrong, but still. |
| 12:42.28 | foxlit | Hm, running wow on battery power is probably a terrible idea. |
| 12:42.44 | nevcairiel | Tentacled: at worst it duplicates every event, i didn't want to build complex tracking |
| 12:43.02 | Tentacled | Duplicates? More like keeps duplicating... |
| 12:43.34 | znf | Kalroth, seems the better approach is to do websockets, actually |
| 12:44.59 | Simca_ | <foxlit> Should just map user textures to filedata ids anyway :P |
| 12:45.07 | Simca_ | they could have some sort of fake internal list, I guess |
| 12:46.40 | znf | Kalroth, OH! Question, can nginx proxy to websockets? |
| 12:46.55 | znf | also, can websockets act like multicast? |
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| 12:57.26 | Kalroth | yes, it can proxy |
| 12:57.51 | Kalroth | and i dont think they can multicast, a websocket is just a wrapper around a regular socket |
| 12:59.16 | Kalroth | you could write a simple multiplexer yourself tho |
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| 13:07.48 | HumanRegret | alright well I think I fucked up somewhere because wow isn't registering my unitframes.lua file |
| 13:10.49 | nevcairiel | Tentacled: should be better now, I also noticed another mistake when the library would be upgraded |
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| 13:15.54 | Tentacled | \m/ |
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| 13:38.03 | HumanRegret | this is how my core.lua file looks, is this right or not? because those prints aren't printing :( |
| 13:39.30 | HumanRegret | helpful if I linked it.. |
| 13:39.31 | HumanRegret | http://hastebin.com/ozakoqejun.lua |
| 13:41.38 | A-KO | Put it on Pastebin |
| 13:41.40 | A-KO | not hastebin :P |
| 13:42.38 | Thunder_Child | At least with hastebin we get to ping someone everytime it is typed. |
| 13:44.59 | HumanRegret | oh |
| 13:45.02 | HumanRegret | am I pinging someone? |
| 13:45.03 | HumanRegret | Sorry D: |
| 13:45.28 | Thunder_Child | That's ok, I am sure he deserves it. |
| 13:45.34 | HumanRegret | baste hast ebin looks so much cleaner then pastebin :( |
| 13:45.57 | HumanRegret | well I fumbled those words |
| 13:48.18 | HumanRegret | ima just use ace3 |
| 13:48.43 | znf | hastebin is haster race |
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| 14:17.46 | HumanRegret | god dammit I suck at this shit, nothing I do seems to work |
| 14:20.19 | Stanzilla | that's my life motto |
| 14:20.54 | HumanRegret | haha |
| 14:21.13 | HumanRegret | i cant even get ace to print something to ChatFrame1 :S |
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| 15:31.03 | AcidWeb | Im blind of there is no API call to get unit-player current title string? |
| 15:32.23 | mikma | anyone used lua 5.3 string.pack and string.unpack? |
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| 15:33.05 | nevcairiel | AcidWeb: UnitPVPName returns the name including title, afaik |
| 15:33.44 | AcidWeb | nevcairiel: nice. thank you. |
| 15:35.00 | nevcairiel | a function to give you only the title would be a bit complicated since it can be applied to the name in various different formats |
| 15:35.08 | nevcairiel | in front, after, separated with a comma |
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| 15:39.39 | Andols | AcidWeb: There is also GetTitleName(titleId) and GetCurrentTitle() |
| 15:40.45 | AcidWeb | Andols: yes but they work only player - not other units. |
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| 15:42.08 | Andols | AcidWeb: Who would have guessed that it's a good idea to read the whole question first :D |
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| 16:22.54 | TheDanW | Semlar: for C_Transmog.GetItemInfo, currently the only way to see if you'll get valid info is like you said, call something like _G.GetItemInfo first |
| 16:23.25 | TheDanW | we're making changes to the transmog api to improve it in for addons an upcoming patch |
| 16:25.04 | nevcairiel | can we enter wishes, like, an API that takes an item link and tell us if we know the appearance, instead of only appearance ids? :) (or an api to get appearance id from item link) |
| 16:25.49 | TheDanW | we're planning on adding appearance id from a link at the least |
| 16:26.17 | nevcairiel | that makes working with it a lot easier, the work-around with a dressupmodel right now is just so awful :D |
| 16:26.30 | TheDanW | agreed |
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| 16:28.25 | Simca_ | excellent |
| 16:29.11 | znf | uhm, adult things: |
| 16:29.14 | znf | wanted to buy a vacuum cleaner |
| 16:29.19 | znf | I have no idea what to look for |
| 16:29.28 | Thunder_Child | Something that sucks. |
| 16:29.50 | znf | clearly |
| 16:31.03 | znf | also, I was expecting vacuum cleaners to be cheaper |
| 16:32.08 | Thunder_Child | Depends on what you get. You can find cheap ones at your local big box retailers, or you can get super expensive ones like Dysons. |
| 16:32.54 | znf | There's no Dyson here :-/ |
| 16:33.08 | Thunder_Child | There is amazon. |
| 16:33.52 | znf | I don't want to wait 3 weeks and pay 50⬠in shipping |
| 16:35.38 | Thunder_Child | That's what prime is for. That being said, you should be able to find them (relatively) cheap locally. For my area the low end would be ~$30-$50 USD. |
| 16:36.15 | znf | I want one with a bag, and 1500W++ or higher |
| 16:36.18 | znf | I want it to suck! |
| 16:36.44 | Thunder_Child | You don't get to be picky and cheap. |
| 16:38.02 | znf | I was looking at Philips Power Life FC8457/92 |
| 16:41.32 | Ressy | Yay. Changes to Transmog. You can really tell that multiple people wrote those APIs. |
| 16:41.36 | Ressy | Nothing jives. |
| 16:41.57 | mckenziemc | my harbor freight shop vacuum sucks, but so does trying to put the disposable dust bags on it |
| 16:42.34 | Torhal | Roomba > All |
| 16:43.07 | mckenziemc | your roomba can't evict spiders, Torhal |
| 16:43.21 | Ressy | it can run over them and kill them. |
| 16:43.42 | mckenziemc | they like the ceilings better |
| 16:43.59 | Ressy | I need to get one of my dad's old canes for smushing ceiling spiders. |
| 16:44.39 | Torhal | I just let spiders do their things. They aren't harming me, they're killing the bugs that would annoy me... |
| 16:44.42 | Torhal | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 16:45.43 | Torhal | What I do want to smoosh is the concept of "All your textures? Yeah, they need to be reloaded from disk since you hid your frame. Now your users hate you." |
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| 16:52.50 | Andols | znf: Don't only look at suction, you can also look at volume, power usage and filter |
| 16:53.00 | znf | yes, I want more gigawatts |
| 16:53.02 | Andols | I recomend taking a vacuum with a good filter |
| 16:53.44 | Andols | Preferably one with a HEPA filter |
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| 17:09.56 | foxlit | Torhal: replace :Hide with an offscreen :SetPoint. |
| 17:10.25 | foxlit | LibForgetYourPerformanceOptimizations-1.0, coming soon. |
| 17:15.12 | Torhal | Soooo bad. |
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| 17:28.25 | Fisker | Hey Seerah |
| 17:28.30 | Seerah | hello |
| 17:29.17 | Elkano | GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED seems to be finally working as intended \o/ i.e. it has the id as argument and fires reliably |
| 17:29.34 | Elkano | also, yeah, hello Seerah :) |
| 17:29.49 | Seerah | hihi, Elkano |
| 17:30.26 | Elkano | will likely still take minutes to search in ItemDB :/ |
| 17:34.14 | g0urra | does GetInspectSpecialization not work on beta/PTR? |
| 17:36.33 | g0urra | it returns 0 for me evey time |
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| 17:51.11 | Miiru | !help |
| 17:52.31 | Miiru | ~seen Vlad |
| 17:52.36 | purl | Miiru: i haven't seen 'vlad' |
| 17:53.19 | Thunder_Child | iirc vlad was taken so he used viad with a captial i |
| 17:53.30 | Miiru | ah :D |
| 17:53.37 | Miiru | ~seen VIad |
| 17:53.37 | purl | viad <~Vlad@cm-84.213.146.58.getinternet.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 9h 9m 40s ago, saying: 'SetTexture > SetColorTexture if you need RGBA though'. |
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| 18:00.51 | kd3 | hm, osx says 'vpn not configured', but I'm connected to it? |
| 18:00.54 | kd3 | ponders |
| 18:04.02 | Thunder_Child | I have noticed that you can disconnect from a vpn session, then that session tries to reconnect through itself. |
| 18:04.40 | Thunder_Child | At lest with the Juniper Network Connect software. |
| 18:05.59 | Gnarfoz | proprietary VPNs, yuck |
| 18:06.36 | Gnarfoz | https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4uiq42/its_happening_donald_j_trump_the_man_the_legend/ |
| 18:20.28 | karl_w_w | ~seen amarande |
| 18:20.30 | purl | amarande <~Amarande@2601:244:4700:ced0:382b:98e3:f661:5cd0> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 13d 17h 16m 25s ago, saying: 'I get a feeling it's easier to get into Rao's than to get onto Gilgamesh, LOL'. |
| 18:20.38 | karl_w_w | such a shame |
| 18:21.27 | Thunder_Child | ~lart karl_w_w |
| 18:21.27 | purl | slams karl_w_w against a large cement Tux |
| 18:22.02 | karl_w_w | does he appear if you say his name 3 times? |
| 18:22.16 | Thunder_Child | I hope not. |
| 18:24.01 | g0urra | can someone help me with a LUA error? |
| 18:24.38 | Thunder_Child | ~asktoask |
| 18:24.38 | purl | Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help, if they can. |
| 18:24.46 | karl_w_w | ~lua |
| 18:24.46 | purl | Lua is a powerful light-weight programming language designed for extending applications. It is often used as a configuration language. See http://www.lua.org/. Note: Lua is not an acronym. It is the Portuguese word for "moon". |
| 18:24.55 | znf | ~yourmom |
| 18:24.55 | purl | i guess yourmom is a man |
| 18:25.13 | karl_w_w | that's deep |
| 18:25.28 | Andols | karl_w_w: So should we start to call it moon-code? |
| 18:26.01 | g0urra | the error is "bad argument #1 to 'tostring' (value expected)", code here http://pastebin.com/yXCXKhrw |
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| 18:27.58 | Gnarfoz | I'm going to assume GetSpecialization returns something tostring can't handle? |
| 18:29.21 | karl_w_w | print it out in that function and see what it gives |
| 18:30.02 | Andols | GetSpecializationInfo returns a table |
| 18:31.18 | g0urra | might I add that it happens every time I'm zoning.. like hearthing to Warspear |
| 18:31.34 | Andols | id, name, description, icon, background = GetSpecializationInfo is the returns |
| 18:34.52 | Miiru | http://www.krheroes.com/home-1 |
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| 18:41.41 | g0urra | $500. dafuq |
| 18:47.02 | Thunder_Child | I really liked knight rider. I don't know if I liked it $500 much. |
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| 18:50.41 | Miiru | once the hoff dies and people forgot that he played in blockbusters like sharknado 3 and 4, it'll worth much more i guess :D |
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| 19:10.08 | Thunder_Child | And in the remake of baywatch it would seem. |
| 19:11.04 | Miiru | The Rock will attract a lot of people |
| 19:11.34 | Miiru | Maybe he will give a People's Elbow to a shark or something |
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| 19:22.02 | foxlit | g0urra: extra parens, i.e. tostring((...)), would remove the error message |
| 19:22.42 | g0urra | changing it to this fixed it, at least so it wouldn't give an error http://pastebin.com/WNPzKhqZ |
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| 19:40.37 | TheDanW | there's a difference between nil and none, tostring doesn't work on none but does on nil; you're calling GetSpecializationInfo with an invalid spec that's causing it to return none |
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| 20:05.00 | Thunder_Child | I am pretty sure that learning Elm is going to kill me via grey matter liquification. |
| 20:05.31 | Thrae|pc | Anyone good with Lua patterns? I'm trying to separate optional Macro conditions from anything after it. The pattern I tried is: "^(%[[^%]]*%])%s*([^%[%]]+)$" which doesn't seem to work. It works if I do (.+) instead of ([^%[%]]+), except it doesn't separate properly beyond 1 instance of [string]. |
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| 20:07.20 | Semlar | you're trying to just match [something] something else? |
| 20:07.25 | foxlit | you're anchoring to end of string when you shouldn't. |
| 20:08.01 | foxlit | lua> ("[foo] bar"):match("^(%[[^%]]*%])%s*([^%[%]]+)$") |
| 20:08.06 | foxlit | foxlit: [foo]bar |
| 20:08.55 | Thunder_Child | Just try to ignore foxlit talking to himself. It's the only way he can have an intelligent conversation. |
| 20:08.56 | foxlit | lua> ("[foo] bar; [baz] bux"):match("^(%[[^%]]*%])%s*([^%[%]]+)$") |
| 20:08.57 | foxlit | foxlit: nil |
| 20:09.03 | Semlar | TheDanW: do you know what PLAYER_LEARN_TALENT_FAILED fires in response to? |
| 20:09.32 | Semlar | doesn't seem to be from failing to switch talents when you're not allowed |
| 20:09.39 | foxlit | lua> ("[foo] bar; [baz] bux"):match("^(%[[^%]]*%])%s*([^%[%]]+)") |
| 20:09.39 | foxlit | foxlit: [foo]bar; |
| 20:10.06 | Thrae|pc | foxlit: Oh right, forgot about semicolons. My problem was with [foo][bar] foobar not matching |
| 20:10.25 | foxlit | Oh, sorry, that's never going to work. |
| 20:11.09 | Semlar | gmatch? |
| 20:11.11 | foxlit | Can't attach quantifiers to anything other than character classes, so you literally can't use patterns for [foo][bar]. |
| 20:12.24 | Thrae|pc | Basically I just want to separate anything inside [...] as Macro conditional and anything not inside [...] as spellname, like /cast does. |
| 20:12.44 | Semlar | have you looked at SecureCmdOptionParse |
| 20:12.58 | Thrae|pc | Yeah but that's a C function, isn't it? |
| 20:13.11 | foxlit | I have, er, this: http://pastebin.com/TikdDruj |
| 20:13.12 | Semlar | are you trying to evaluate the expression or actually split the conditions out |
| 20:13.27 | Semlar | tries to calm foxlit down |
| 20:13.48 | Simca_ | tries to calm Semlar calming foxlit down. |
| 20:14.02 | Thunder_Child | This is not foxlit being excited. |
| 20:14.30 | foxlit | You're perhaps better off matching ([^;]+)([^]]+); and suffixing your string with a semicolon |
| 20:14.32 | Thrae|pc | Just throw the conditions into SecureCmdOptionParse, but afaik SecureCmdOptionParse will return nil if the input is either nil or the conditions evaluate to false |
| 20:15.36 | Semlar | what output are you looking for |
| 20:15.59 | foxlit | hm, quantifiers are wrong there, and I don't think it's fixable without lookbehind. Ah well, can always take the previous match position and substring manually |
| 20:18.53 | foxlit | so "([^];]+);()", and some non-pattern logic to substring the preceding [hopefully valid] conditionals. |
| 20:19.06 | TheDanW | Semlar: it won't fire for rest state failures, though it probably should :/ |
| 20:19.28 | Semlar | i can't figure out what it's for |
| 20:19.56 | TheDanW | it mostly handles obsolete failures |
| 20:20.20 | TheDanW | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:20.54 | Semlar | o.o |
| 20:21.26 | Thunder_Child | Well, at least it's descriptive. |
| 20:21.41 | Semlar | is there a function to check if you're allowed to switch talents, AreTalentsLocked doesn't seem to be for the rested thing |
| 20:25.43 | foxlit | hm, there's no local-network p2p sharing of battle.net updates :( |
| 20:26.08 | Thrae|pc | Ah, I figured it out |
| 20:27.01 | g0urra | now that UNIT_COMBO_POINTS is gone, how do you fix this? http://pastebin.com/b6Dx0j5J |
| 20:27.10 | Thrae|pc | Just throwing everything into SecureCmdOptionParse was all I needed, silly me. |
| 20:37.38 | Thunder_Child | Really Fisker? That's just dirty. |
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| 20:55.33 | TheDanW | Semlar: don't think so, you should be able to check if you're in a resting area or if you have the inscription aura thing on it |
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| 20:57.35 | Semlar | there seem to be at least 6 buffs to check and one of them has the exact same name as one that says you can't change talens |
| 20:59.07 | Semlar | i don't like scanning auras because you never know if your list is complete |
| 21:01.54 | TheDanW | i'll put talent API on the big list of requested API improvements |
| 21:03.24 | nevcairiel | g0urra: no idea what that code wants, but combo points just fire UNIT_POWER now like any other player power |
| 21:03.59 | g0urra | k I'm gonna try that instead |
| 21:04.41 | g0urra | nevcairiel: it's supposed to print "2 CP" instead of "2 Combo Points" |
| 21:12.14 | Semlar | TheDanW: when i hover over a talent in the talent frame outside of a rested area, it displays "Talents can only be changed while in a rested XP area" |
| 21:12.33 | Semlar | when i set a tooltip myself, i don't get that line |
| 21:13.20 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.12 | Semlar | the line is not being added by the talent frame, as far as i can tell |
| 21:15.20 | nebula | there's no way to get soulbound text, the time left to trade, etc, shit just happens with tooltips |
| 21:15.48 | Semlar | but but how do they have a different tooltip |
| 21:15.59 | Semlar | i'm using the same code |
| 21:16.17 | Thunder_Child | C magic? |
| 21:16.28 | nebula | the parent? mystery |
| 21:16.29 | Semlar | is it checking what the owner of the tooltip is? |
| 21:17.34 | foxlit | what are you calling? |
| 21:18.53 | Semlar | GameTooltip:SetTalent(19823, false, 1) or GameTooltip:SetTalent(19823, 0, 1) |
| 21:19.46 | Seerah | I'm sure it checks to see if you are hovering over the actual button. |
| 21:19.55 | Semlar | well that's absurd |
| 21:20.01 | Semlar | why would it be checking that C side |
| 21:20.13 | nebula | because tooltips do what tooltips want |
| 21:20.23 | Semlar | actually i guess i can see why it would |
| 21:20.33 | Seerah | why? it makes no sense to provide that line in any other context, and it is already performing a check to see if it should be shown or not based on combat |
| 21:20.50 | Seerah | I don't know why it's C-side |
| 21:21.06 | Seerah | unless you just haven't found the relevant code /yet/ |
| 21:21.25 | Seerah | (that's a teacher's favorite word - "yet") |
| 21:21.35 | Semlar | well the global string isn't referenced anywhere in framexml so the warning itself isn't added there |
| 21:21.59 | Semlar | it could be added in response to something it's doing but it just seems to be calling SetTalent |
| 21:22.43 | TheDanW | there should be no difference |
| 21:22.54 | TheDanW | we don't check moused over frames or anything like that |
| 21:22.58 | Semlar | >_> |
| 21:22.59 | Seerah | btw - where can I get an updated copy of GlobalStrings.lua anyway, since it's no longer in FramXML? |
| 21:23.09 | Semlar | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/GlobalStrings.lua |
| 21:23.14 | Seerah | danke |
| 21:23.25 | Semlar | or i guess live? i don't know, i have the beta link in my history |
| 21:24.22 | Seerah | eh, it's more up to date than what I have from 2015 |
| 21:24.55 | Semlar | i can't check whether it's from the button being the owner because it immediately sets it back to whatever it should be from hovering over it |
| 21:25.16 | Semlar | is this an OnUpdate script or something |
| 21:26.52 | Semlar | it doesn't have the warning text when i set it with my mouse over the talent button |
| 21:27.33 | Semlar | :| |
| 21:27.45 | Semlar | what is adding this! |
| 21:28.08 | foxlit | C. |
| 21:28.53 | Seerah | Q. |
| 21:28.54 | Semlar | C is a jerk |
| 21:30.04 | TheDanW | if you're passing exactly the same args, the third param is especially important, it should look exactly the same |
| 21:30.13 | Semlar | i'm using exactly the same arguments |
| 21:30.33 | Seerah | Semlar: http://giphy.com/gifs/star-trek-q-tng-IlKw1571SiL5u |
| 21:31.09 | TheDanW | i have my doubts ;p |
| 21:31.17 | Semlar | o.o |
| 21:31.47 | Seerah | I think TheDanW is Q. ;) |
| 21:31.58 | Semlar | i have changed nothing and it's working now |
| 21:32.09 | Semlar | i think i'm going to go have a lie down |
| 21:32.17 | Thunder_Child | I thought TheDanW was just Slouken 2.0 |
| 21:33.22 | nevcairiel | works for me, Semlar |
| 21:33.31 | Semlar | wtf |
| 21:33.47 | Semlar | I'M NOT CRAZY DAMMIT |
| 21:33.58 | Seerah | ~pat Semlar |
| 21:33.58 | purl | ACTION pats Semlar and says "Nicely Done!" |
| 21:34.05 | nevcairiel | Semlar: http://imgur.com/c5cTbG3 |
| 21:34.46 | TheDanW | i don't know who or what Q is :/ |
| 21:34.51 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 21:34.51 | nevcairiel | wat |
| 21:34.55 | nevcairiel | who raised you |
| 21:34.59 | Thunder_Child | That needs to be rectified. |
| 21:35.01 | Semlar | not television that's for sure |
| 21:35.25 | Seerah | TheDanW: :((( |
| 21:35.35 | Semlar | just doing GameTooltip:SetTalent(talentID) works |
| 21:35.36 | Seerah | I'm so sorry |
| 21:35.42 | Thunder_Child | TheDanW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_(Star_Trek) |
| 21:35.56 | TheDanW | ohhh, that's what you're referring to |
| 21:36.11 | Semlar | apparently the second argument is not 0, even though my addon is convinced that's what it's being set with |
| 21:36.23 | nevcairiel | the second should be false |
| 21:36.26 | nevcairiel | 0 is true |
| 21:36.41 | Semlar | i tried false and it didn't work but i think the update script was messing with it |
| 21:41.24 | Semlar | i'm more interested in the fact that my tipID addon is adding a line before the warning |
| 21:43.05 | Semlar | OnTooltipSetSpell must be firing before it gets added |
| 21:55.19 | Cairenn | PSA: BC tickets are being 'released' now. Check your emails |
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| 22:00.18 | zenzelezz | nine years on and "BC" still first makes me think Burning Crusade |
| 22:00.45 | bshelden | had the same thought |
| 22:00.48 | bshelden | My second was where I live |
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| 22:10.23 | Kemayo | Anyone happen to know of a way to ask a PlayerModel / DressUpModel to zoom in on a particular item? |
| 22:11.42 | Simca_ | sure |
| 22:11.53 | Simca_ | oh, on an ITEM |
| 22:12.35 | Simca_ | the answer is yes, but it's complicated because you're going to venture into the lands of 'wildly undocumented' |
| 22:12.38 | Kemayo | The models in the wardrobe sort of do it, but that API just provides some cameraids to use, which is difficult-to-impossible to work out from "I have an itemid". |
| 22:13.20 | Kemayo | Via Model_ApplyUICamera. |
| 22:13.57 | Simca_ | yes, UICameras are wildly undocumented |
| 22:14.05 | Simca_ | new feature in Legion |
| 22:14.40 | Simca_ | I think in the 13-column database file UICamera.db2, I have a single column name. |
| 22:14.41 | Simca_ | lol |
| 22:15.13 | Kemayo | Mostly, I want to avoid having to write some offsets to move the camera around in the model for every race/gender. :D |
| 22:15.21 | Simca_ | I can give you a list of all of the valid IDs if you want to just go down the list and try them all until you find one you like |
| 22:15.58 | Kemayo | Are the cameraids reliable constants, then? |
| 22:16.33 | Kemayo | If so, I don't mind hardcoding them after interrogating the wardrobe API a bit. |
| 22:16.50 | Simca_ | yes, they are actually designed constants expressly for this purpose and similar purposes |
| 22:18.10 | Kemayo | Okay, that's worth playing with then, thanks. |
| 22:18.11 | Simca_ | the artifact talent tree window backgrounds, for example those are actually PlayerModels of the player-less items with a specific CameraID designed to exactly line up with their specifically shaped talent graph |
| 22:20.11 | Simca_ | actually, let me share these files |
| 22:20.16 | nebula | that seems silly |
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| 22:20.33 | Simca_ | nebula: it's to show off all the fancy particle effects |
| 22:20.40 | nebula | ah, i suppose |
| 22:20.47 | nebula | i never noticed that, though |
| 22:20.52 | nebula | so they failed |
| 22:20.55 | Simca_ | haha |
| 22:21.22 | Simca_ | it also means the background is customizable, since it follows your current weapon appearance |
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| 22:24.07 | Andols | That is actually pretty cool :) |
| 22:24.45 | Stanzilla | hey kyle |
| 22:25.18 | nebula | hi |
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| 22:26.33 | Aftermathh | Hey everyone, i have a little problem would anyone be able to help me with maybe? :) http://imgur.com/a/FCTHJ as you see some boxes have a dark overlay for some reason? How can i fix it? =) http://hastebin.com/mevoqeleye.coffee |
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| 22:40.00 | kd3 | what a difference a key change makes... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTRXOnbuJVM |
| 22:42.15 | Seerah | That's not only a shift from minor to major. That's an actual key change, shifting the chord structure/progression beneath the melody. |
| 22:42.38 | Seerah | the accompaniment changed keys, but the melody did not |
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| 22:43.55 | Seerah | actually, I take that back. They even changed the notes in the melody to fit the new chords beneath. the opening interval is a 6th in that instead of a 5th. |
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| 22:46.53 | Seerah | (sorry, kd3 - that hurt my brain >< :) ) |
| 22:47.01 | kd3 | no worries |
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| 23:01.42 | Simca_ | Kemayo: Blizzard granted your wishes in these database columns apparently. There's a lookup table from RaceID, SexID, SlotID to UICameraID |
| 23:01.58 | Torhal | zenzelezz: Foof |
| 23:02.07 | Torhal | Zeldo: Not him, but you. |
| 23:02.14 | Zeldo | lol |
| 23:02.23 | Kemayo | Simca_: Hmm... that sounds too good to be true. |
| 23:03.32 | Semlar | i'm gonna need to see your SexID |
| 23:05.02 | Simca_ | Kemayo: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17pgDFtg-4EGVAVBiINmvqEdFgfYRwwniUpI49nktCz4/edit?usp=sharing |
| 23:05.21 | Simca_ | UiCamFbackTransmogChrRace worksheet |
| 23:06.23 | Simca_ | UICamera also has a name column with descriptions like "Transmog-Pandaren-Female-Hands" |
| 23:06.28 | Simca_ | so you can double-check that way |
| 23:07.26 | Semlar | i can transmog to bear hands? |
| 23:08.30 | Stanzilla | I want bear hands irl |
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| 23:45.20 | Semlar | "enable floating combat text" is missing from the fct page stanzilla |
| 23:50.15 | kullervo | OH WHOA C STACK OVERFLOW LUA ERROR THAT DIDN'T CRASH THE GAME |
| 23:50.30 | tz | you lie like pig in mud |
| 23:52.07 | kd3 | for some reason I'm remembering shortly after 1.9 crossing the boundry from silithus to AQ's exterior which always caused an overflow in sct |
| 23:52.16 | kd3 | never crashed the client though |
| 23:52.25 | Ketho | Semlar: I was confused if I should've added "Scrolling Combat Text for Self", since autoSelfCast and lootUnderMouse were removed from the addon again :S |
| 23:53.07 | Semlar | as far as i'm concerned, you may as well add every option to the addon at this point |
| 23:53.25 | Semlar | we're taking it out of the addon panel |
| 23:53.26 | Ketho | will do |
| 23:54.03 | Semlar | i don't see any point in keeping the settings that are still in the interface out of it |
| 23:54.25 | Semlar | because that would just mean having to switch between both panels to find everything |
| 23:55.09 | Semlar | it would also be really confusing to have a section for floating combat text and not including the button to enable it |
| 23:58.40 | nebula | Semlar: they're different things |
| 23:59.00 | Semlar | what are |
| 23:59.03 | nebula | the "for self" option enables shit for you that displays at/under your char |
| 23:59.09 | nebula | everything else is for the shit on targets |
| 23:59.46 | Stanzilla | there is no option for "shit on targets" though |
