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| 00:34.28 | mckenziemc | why do some programs seem to be limited to the equivalent of one core of a CPU but have that usage spread out over multiple cores in task manager? |
| 00:34.54 | mckenziemc | is the one process running part of the time on one core, then being shuttled to another core periodically? |
| 00:36.12 | Amarande | mckenziemc: I believe so |
| 00:37.04 | Amarande | it's why some older programs (especially some games from the early 2000s) have issues on multicore systems, the OS scheduling the process back and forth between cores affects their performance |
| 00:37.23 | Amarande | like the original neverwinter nights has to be pinned to 1 core to work right |
| 00:37.32 | Neffi | worked fine for me |
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| 00:43.17 | Amarande | Neffi: apparently some people report frame rate stuttering issues and that seems to be why |
| 00:48.09 | Amarande | VIad: looks like it's at its worst with Overwatch voice chat though, Kotaku comments are suggesting they just issue the chat bans there without reviewing what went on |
| 00:48.51 | Amarande | which is kind of bad, because this sort of system *needs* human review, otherwise it's just yet another place where the popular kids get to lord it over everyone |
| 00:50.35 | mckenziemc | i just hope we can get some kind of system like that for IRC! |
| 00:51.38 | Amarande | mckenziemc: that's called "talking to the channel ops" |
| 00:52.09 | Amarande | I've seen enough places where automated up/down vote systems stunt discussion to be skeptical of their overall efficacy |
| 00:52.43 | Amarande | especially plenty of them where it isn't long before discussions turn extremely one sided because anyone who goes against the prevailing view gets vote-moderated into oblivion :P |
| 00:57.54 | Gnarfoz | mckenziemc: yes, tasks can be moved between CPU cores (or CPUs) many times a second |
| 00:58.45 | Semlar | neffi find me something good to watch |
| 00:59.07 | Neffi | I'm busy installing windows Semlar |
| 00:59.26 | Semlar | okay but after these 20 seasons of some british show i'm going to need something else |
| 00:59.32 | Neffi | ok |
| 00:59.41 | Semlar | ideally with vampires and lawyers |
| 00:59.43 | Neffi | have you seen Mr Robot? |
| 00:59.50 | Neffi | if not go catch up before tomorrow |
| 00:59.53 | Semlar | does it have robot vampires |
| 01:00.14 | Neffi | no it has a socially awkward hacker guy |
| 01:00.28 | Semlar | there was a hacker guy in human target |
| 01:00.35 | Semlar | that was p good |
| 01:00.40 | Neffi | this hacker guy is probably cooler |
| 01:00.43 | Semlar | no way |
| 01:00.45 | Neffi | he's not a vampire or anything |
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| 01:00.53 | Neffi | he's just a normal guy who is also a hacker |
| 01:01.06 | Neffi | only not very normal because he's pretty autistic |
| 01:01.11 | Semlar | the hacker guy in human target was pretty cool |
| 01:01.17 | Neffi | but still totally cool |
| 01:02.05 | Neffi | Semlar: these altoids minis are nothing like regular altoids and I'm very disappointed |
| 01:02.15 | Neffi | I thought I was getting altoids in a smaller tin |
| 01:02.15 | Semlar | well yeah they're smaller |
| 01:02.31 | Neffi | no they are also a different recipe! can you imagine? |
| 01:02.38 | Neffi | they aren't curiously strong or anything! |
| 01:02.42 | Semlar | wtf |
| 01:02.56 | Neffi | in fact I ate half the tin in one bite and it wasnt even enough to freshen my breath! |
| 01:03.01 | Neffi | they are useless candy |
| 01:03.01 | Amarande | dude, just get a bottle of peppermint oil from gnc :) |
| 01:03.07 | Amarande | it's pretty good against ants, too |
| 01:03.08 | Neffi | no that's ok |
| 01:03.23 | Semlar | oh the hacker was the guy from nightmare on elm street |
| 01:03.28 | Semlar | so good luck being cooler |
| 01:03.29 | Neffi | maybe |
| 01:03.46 | Neffi | windows 7 is installed Semlar. I'm not on the cutting edge |
| 01:03.54 | Neffi | s/not/now/ |
| 01:03.54 | Amarande | bleh, gilgamesh is still restricted |
| 01:04.05 | Amarande | I get a feeling it's easier to get into Rao's than to get onto Gilgamesh, LOL |
| 01:04.05 | Semlar | yes this is the last version of windows |
| 01:05.20 | Semlar | he was freddy krueger and also rorschach from watchmen |
| 01:06.08 | Gnarfoz | human target is to mr robot as Transformers 4 is to Inception |
| 01:06.12 | Gnarfoz | or something |
| 01:06.14 | Semlar | get out |
| 01:06.31 | Semlar | how dare you say that about human target |
| 01:08.03 | Gnarfoz | it's a relative assessment |
| 01:08.15 | Gnarfoz | mr robot is just too awesome :p |
| 01:08.18 | Semlar | although to be fair i didn't think inception was good |
| 01:08.31 | Semlar | it was okay |
| 01:08.47 | Semlar | there weren't any vampires in it |
| 01:08.55 | Gnarfoz | a disappointment, really |
| 01:09.13 | Gnarfoz | even the matrix had vampires |
| 01:10.55 | Neffi | I think inception was OK at best also |
| 01:11.02 | Neffi | Mr Robot is better |
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| 01:18.14 | Gnarfoz | Probably |
| 01:18.25 | Gnarfoz | Happy birthday, nevcairiel |
| 01:26.21 | Simca | if true, happy birthday! |
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| 01:45.11 | mckenziemc | http://runningahackerspace.tumblr.com/post/113272014704/sure-we-have-a-3d-printer |
| 01:45.15 | mckenziemc | fewyn ^ |
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| 03:36.43 | Stanzilla | custom scripts warning http://i.imgur.com/G6yetWm.jpg |
| 03:38.50 | kd3 | does that trigger on all scripts or just when RunScript/loadstring/etc is passed to /run? |
| 03:39.15 | Stanzilla | I only tested that one thing |
| 03:39.39 | Stanzilla | lemme login again |
| 03:39.42 | Neffi | it would be trivial to trick it if it just checked for those sorts of things |
| 03:39.44 | Stanzilla | takes ages because no SSD |
| 03:41.09 | Stanzilla | looks like every /run |
| 03:41.16 | Stanzilla | tried /run print("TEST") and it triggered |
| 03:55.37 | Gethe | it's part of the /run /dump chat commands |
| 04:11.48 | nebula | if ( not ScriptsDisallowedForBeta() ) then if ( not AreDangerousScriptsAllowed() ) then |
| 04:12.11 | nebula | interesting |
| 04:12.46 | nebula | SetAllowDangerousScripts |
| 04:13.03 | nebula | wonder if that's protected, otherwise you could just flag it true |
| 04:14.28 | Stanzilla | it's dangerous, kyle |
| 04:14.30 | Stanzilla | watch out |
| 04:14.40 | nebula | i live for danger |
| 04:15.08 | nebula | also foxlit is including globals in helix, neat |
| 04:15.15 | nebula | wonder when that happened |
| 04:15.40 | Stanzilla | what is helix |
| 04:15.43 | Stanzilla | did I miss that |
| 04:15.59 | nebula | his generated stuff folder |
| 04:16.06 | nebula | https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/Helix/GlobalAPI.lua |
| 04:16.30 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 04:16.45 | Stanzilla | did you update your linter whitelist txt from that? |
| 04:17.01 | nebula | no, but i'll probably update it to use that |
| 04:17.17 | Stanzilla | good! |
| 04:17.33 | Stanzilla | and merge that language-lua stuff :D |
| 04:17.40 | nebula | what changed? i never got around to that |
| 04:17.54 | Stanzilla | only pattern matching |
| 04:17.58 | Stanzilla | is supposed to be better now |
| 04:18.13 | nebula | You have been blocked from using Twitch. Please visit the Support Center for more information on why you may have been banned. |
| 04:18.15 | nebula | interesting |
| 04:18.34 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 04:22.02 | Mr_Rabies | you didn't drink your verification can, nebula |
| 04:22.50 | nebula | only thing i can think of is some guy was playing evolve, and he was sneaking around while the hunters were scanning for him and then bitching and moaning about getting stream sniped and being a complete douche |
| 04:23.04 | nebula | i didn't even say anything terrible, just that he was the one being a dick |
| 04:24.58 | Mr_Rabies | twitch is notoriously heavy with the banhammer for anything remotely offensive |
| 04:25.13 | Torhal | Reported. |
| 04:25.19 | nebula | i've said way worse and never had an issue |
| 04:25.22 | Mr_Rabies | you basically have to dial it back to spongebob level if you want to chat on there |
| 04:27.20 | Mr_Rabies | the whole internet is basically sliding that way now, now that all the normies are running the show and there's money to be made :( |
| 04:27.54 | Stanzilla | nebula: remember that one night |
| 04:28.02 | Mr_Rabies | i long for the bubble to burst again :< |
| 04:28.52 | kd3 | eh, the way the startup scene is going, it'll be fairly soon |
| 04:29.08 | nebula | oh, they don't allow vpns? |
| 04:29.43 | nebula | didn't realize my laptop was still connected to work |
| 04:30.33 | Stanzilla | phew so not me |
| 04:31.46 | nebula | it was on any account/browser i tried to use, so figured something else was wrong, noticed the little cisco icon |
| 04:33.30 | Ketho | I thought Helix meant the one from twitch plays pokemon lol |
| 04:34.03 | Stanzilla | my feature request is in the Overwatch Ana patch \o/ |
| 04:36.48 | nebula | what feature? |
| 04:37.12 | Stanzilla | taskbar icon flash on queue pop |
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| 04:44.54 | Stanzilla | only for ranked matches though |
| 04:47.59 | Stanzilla | this can't be healthy https://youtu.be/T9Y4o_BqC0A |
| 04:50.46 | nebula | wouldn't say it's unhealthy, his muscles probably didn't like it much, though |
| 04:51.50 | Mr_Rabies | man i bet you could straight up drop kick that guy and if he heard you coming he wouldn't move an inch |
| 04:52.00 | Mr_Rabies | just throw you like zangief |
| 04:53.14 | Stanzilla | dont you think it was the rush of blood to the head that knocked him out? |
| 04:54.34 | Trela | It looks like episode of Dragonball Z where the strongest character charges up then blows their entire power level at once. |
| 04:56.38 | nebula | extreme weight lifting is weird, puke? piss yourself? everyone understands |
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| 05:06.24 | relaxok | what's the deal with \32 in some lua strings and is there a list of other stuff like that? |
| 05:29.26 | nevcairiel | thank you Gnarfoz |
| 05:31.44 | Stanzilla | what did he do now |
| 05:32.21 | Torhal | He "happy birthday"ed nevcairiel, Stanzilla. |
| 05:32.39 | Stanzilla | ohhh nevcairiel is older again |
| 05:32.42 | Stanzilla | well grats to that then |
| 05:32.43 | Torhal | Now you need to throw him a party. |
| 05:32.44 | Torhal | Again. |
| 05:32.52 | Torhal | He does this every year. |
| 05:32.55 | Torhal | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 05:33.04 | Stanzilla | he likes the parties |
| 05:33.12 | Torhal | Must be. |
| 05:33.14 | nevcairiel | I know its kinda repetitive, but what can you do |
| 05:33.20 | nevcairiel | but thanks! |
| 05:34.06 | nevcairiel | in other news, why did like all my b.net games update last night. hots, sc2, wow ptr/beta .. all downloading an update! |
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| 05:38.27 | Stanzilla | they actually pushed patches for all of those |
| 05:38.47 | Stanzilla | all big ones, too apart from wow |
| 05:40.54 | pnorman | metatable __index doesn't get used if the object is a table and the key exists in it :( |
| 05:42.14 | nevcairiel | well no __index is only used for keys that dont exist, you can create an entirely empty proxy table and set __index and __newindex if you want to catch any and all access |
| 05:42.31 | pnorman | ya, that's what I'm looking at doing |
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| 05:57.41 | Stanzilla | about opengl in wow http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20418713498#9 |
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| 06:00.53 | nevcairiel | wonder why they bothered to build a new windows backend instead of just throwing it out |
| 06:01.20 | Alram | interns were bored |
| 06:01.23 | Alram | needed something to do |
| 06:01.43 | Torhal | And they didn't cage you. |
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| 07:12.02 | ccox | Has anyone documented the item string changes in Legion? |
| 07:12.45 | nevcairiel | does it really change? |
| 07:13.11 | nevcairiel | all item changes would seem to be representable with the existing bonus id system we have |
| 07:13.18 | Kalroth | does a forest of item strings really change if there is no documentation |
| 07:15.08 | ccox | nevcairiel: yeah, it seems to have changed (beyond the ânot printing zerosâ issue) |
| 07:15.43 | ccox | nevcairiel: it looks like the order of values has changed (random suffix may not be in the same place) |
| 07:16.03 | Stanzilla | anyone up for hearthstone recruit a friend? https://battle.net/recruit/6D9HWLWL6W?blzcmp=raf-hs&s=HS&m=pc |
| 07:16.50 | Stanzilla | I think you just have to accept and you'll get a pack |
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| 07:19.00 | nevcairiel | but i already have a hs account |
| 07:19.23 | Stanzilla | yeah seems like that does not matter |
| 07:19.28 | Stanzilla | friend just did it, hit accept and got a pack |
| 07:19.32 | nevcairiel | New recruits must have achieved less than 20 levels across all classes to be eligible. |
| 07:19.33 | Stanzilla | at least the website said he did |
| 07:19.48 | Stanzilla | weird |
| 07:20.39 | nevcairiel | i clicked the button, but dont expect me to start hs :p |
| 07:21.51 | Stanzilla | ok :D |
| 07:21.52 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 07:21.53 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/zbm0p7D.png |
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| 07:23.21 | nevcairiel | did you make two screenshots or does hs fail at life and screenshot the screenshot text? :D |
| 07:24.04 | Stanzilla | I use sharex to make screenshots and the keybind triggered both |
| 07:24.51 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 07:29.47 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 07:29.48 | Stanzilla | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fIconAFMBc |
| 07:29.54 | Stanzilla | that is unfortunate |
| 07:31.02 | nevcairiel | would be kinda boring if that worked, games over instantly :p |
| 07:32.14 | znf | is Azsuna playable now? >_< |
| 07:43.27 | znf | nope |
| 07:43.30 | znf | once the boss is pulled |
| 07:43.32 | znf | azsuna go bye |
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| 08:05.50 | karl_w_w | wow, this is a pair of great tits http://i.imgur.com/gu1np5Y.jpg |
| 08:07.28 | haste | noice |
| 08:08.10 | nevcairiel | i prefer boobies |
| 08:09.07 | Kalroth | legs that go all the way |
| 08:28.52 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUSTJK6S480 <- well, they are correct. fuck you. |
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| 09:28.20 | relaxok | what keeps the draw order correct (parent->child) if a child frame has 'use parent level' |
| 09:28.26 | relaxok | ? |
| 09:28.42 | nevcairiel | dont childs using that automatically get parent+1, not just parent level |
| 09:28.49 | relaxok | yes |
| 09:29.00 | relaxok | but useParentLevel="true" can be in a frame definition |
| 09:29.12 | relaxok | which i think makes that not happen? |
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| 10:08.56 | VIad | that was a high quality image of tits |
| 10:22.02 | karl_w_w | great tits should always be looked at in high definition, it's the only way to truly appreciate them |
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| 12:07.30 | Ketho | One thing I don't get about AcceptTrade() if it's hardware event protected, then how do people still manage to exploit it? |
| 12:07.37 | Ketho | someone explained it but it's only making me more confused, does anyone have a link to the actual source code? https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/4sjw11/new_dangerous_script_warning_in_latest_beta_build/d5ae2do?context=3 |
| 12:11.30 | nevcairiel | hardware events can be any and all hardware events |
| 12:11.51 | nevcairiel | try to close the trade frame? just hijack the close button and accept the trade on the mouse click hardware event |
| 12:12.18 | nevcairiel | try to run away? we'll just use the movement keys hardware events to trade |
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| 12:12.49 | nevcairiel | hardware events protect generally against full automation, its not a means to protect API from malicious use |
| 12:14.26 | Ketho | would they have to hook everything hardware event related in the UI in order to get triggered by it? |
| 12:14.57 | nevcairiel | could just hook the most common things to happen, like someone trying to close the tradeframe or something like that, or movement keys and mouse clicks |
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| 12:15.13 | nevcairiel | but could really set up a simple frame that just accepts any key input and use that |
| 12:15.42 | Ketho | ok that's pretty evil |
| 12:16.27 | nevcairiel | like i said, hardware events are not meant to protect API from being used in scripts or addons, they are just meant to disable full automation |
| 12:16.59 | nevcairiel | you can still get half automation by hooking all sorts of crazy hardware events, but if an actual addon would do that, you would probably disrupt the player with those hooks |
| 12:17.08 | nevcairiel | not like your evil money stealer cares about that though :p |
| 12:17.36 | Ketho | why can't they just make AcceptTrade() a secure function? if that's possible |
| 12:17.59 | nevcairiel | they could, but then any addon that wants to touch the trade ui in any way would break |
| 12:18.34 | nevcairiel | they know the value of addons and try to not break them :) |
| 12:19.58 | Ketho | Didn't think that the whole trade ui would break, thanks nev |
| 12:21.15 | nevcairiel | the only things generally entirely protected are typically related to movement and spell casting |
| 12:21.41 | nevcairiel | and some other combat-relevant things like canceling buffs |
| 12:22.00 | nevcairiel | although to be fair that one is only protected in combat |
| 12:38.41 | znf | Hmm, I don't recall seeing any trade ui addon...? |
| 12:44.11 | nevcairiel | i think i saw at least some RP addons that let you play a NPC that added some extra things to trade |
| 12:44.37 | mckenziemc | Jamba can trade money between your multiboxing accounts |
| 12:44.51 | mckenziemc | maybe it just sets it up, i don't remember |
| 12:45.14 | Infus | auto dispenser of water was a big one in vanilla |
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| 14:12.18 | mckenziemc | returns VIad with the receipt and hugs Lopeppeppy. |
| 14:15.16 | VIad | is happy to be back together with Lopeppeppy. |
| 14:15.41 | Lopeppeppy | It was a short separation, but we've worked out our differences and are very happy now. |
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| 14:24.26 | VIad | welcome to not authing, Ressy |
| 14:24.33 | VIad | now your nick is locked for 30 minutes :p |
| 14:25.23 | Ressia | No, I auth'd. |
| 14:25.36 | Ressia | I tried ghosting, but didn't work right. |
| 14:25.55 | Ressia | :) |
| 14:25.59 | VIad | oh :d |
| 14:26.47 | Ressy | This is what happend: http://pastebin.com/8xA8dF2m |
| 14:27.23 | Ressy | Bell sucks. |
| 14:27.36 | Ressy | Thinking I might pick up gig at home with Bell, and do a point to point to work. |
| 14:27.41 | Ressy | Bell only provides 6mbps here. |
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| 14:31.13 | VIad | bell always sounded like some fast food joint to me |
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| 15:02.28 | karl_w_w | you eat bells, VIad? |
| 15:02.48 | karl_w_w | or you eat scottish people? |
| 15:11.32 | VIad | tacobell :p |
| 15:19.42 | karl_w_w | oh, scottish tacos |
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| 15:47.16 | VIad | every parents nightmare http://imgur.com/gallery/KRu4b |
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| 16:06.30 | VIad | we need this everywhere http://imgur.com/gallery/OoTUe |
| 16:09.33 | Miiru | nope |
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| 16:29.44 | karl_w_w | 4 mana 7/7! |
| 16:29.51 | karl_w_w | who ever thought that was a good idea |
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| 16:49.24 | Tentacled | nevcairiel: I've got a location where UnitPosition("player") reports some numbers, but HBD:GetPlayerZonePosition() says nil. Interested, or known? |
| 16:50.27 | Tentacled | (And it's not in some odd hole in the ground at the edge of the map files, where there be dragons :) - it's in Stormwind, sort of. |
| 16:52.30 | nevcairiel | if you go of the actual ingame map, it returns nil unless you allow it to return coordinates outside the 0..1 range |
| 16:52.35 | nevcairiel | there is a parameter for that |
| 16:54.11 | Tentacled | Yes, but which map will it return, if the player isn't on any ZONE map anymore? Which zone's out-of-0..1 coords will be used? |
| 16:54.28 | nevcairiel | the one the game shows you |
| 16:54.36 | Tentacled | Hmm, unless that map still does register as Stormwind, right. |
| 16:54.53 | Tentacled | If it didn't, it'd return the continent coords, right? |
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| 17:25.38 | Semlar | returns Tentacled for store credit |
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| 17:30.42 | fewyn | returns Semlar |
| 17:31.19 | Semlar | you take that back |
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| 17:48.48 | VIad | Semlar: did you find a way to SetTexture colors? |
| 17:49.00 | Semlar | what do you mean |
| 17:49.04 | Stanzilla | SetColorTexture? |
| 17:49.21 | VIad | back in the day we did SetTexture(1, 0, 0) for green, arg4 for alpha |
| 17:49.36 | Semlar | they moved it to SetColorTexture |
| 17:49.40 | VIad | neato |
| 17:49.47 | VIad | thanks |
| 17:49.48 | Semlar | it's also in that code i sent you for texn |
| 17:50.07 | Stanzilla | do I get points on stackoverflow for my correct answer? |
| 17:50.11 | Semlar | no |
| 17:50.14 | Stanzilla | : ( |
| 17:50.20 | Semlar | in fact i'm deducting points |
| 17:50.39 | Stanzilla | whyyyy |
| 17:50.40 | Stanzilla | not fair |
| 17:51.14 | Semlar | you'll have to go back and read the site guidelines for a properly constructed answer |
| 17:52.58 | VIad | so much easier to inspect my transmog model now :p http://ss.bool.no/capture_1468432367.png |
| 17:53.14 | VIad | basically moves the model to the right and covers all the space |
| 17:54.04 | znf | cool VIad |
| 17:54.16 | VIad | its really shitty looking but all I care about is looking my model up close :p |
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| 18:09.11 | Miiru | to win 5000 pvp pet battles is insane |
| 18:10.43 | Aiue | eh |
| 18:11.19 | Aiue | I earned that, err, about two years ago, I think. |
| 18:11.40 | Miiru | :o |
| 18:11.41 | Aiue | 11/25/13 would be 2013-11-25 in international standard, aye? |
| 18:13.00 | haste | that's the only thing it can be |
| 18:13.34 | Aiue | It could be in the future! |
| 18:13.53 | haste | 13th november 2025? P: |
| 18:13.57 | Aiue | Yes! |
| 18:14.12 | Aiue | Or way way back in 1013? |
| 18:14.35 | haste | lies |
| 18:15.53 | Aiue | All I know is that non-ISO 8601 dates confuse me. :p |
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| 18:57.26 | VIad | why doesnt overwatch have hotkey for template messages? |
| 18:57.32 | VIad | communicate wheel is so useless |
| 18:57.37 | VIad | there is no "behind you" alert |
| 19:00.37 | Gnarfoz | if someone doesn't hear an enemy behind them on their own, I doubt you emoting at them will help |
| 19:09.54 | VIad | probably |
| 19:12.47 | Miiru | but maybe the enemy behind his teammate has his teammate in his back :o |
| 19:18.00 | VIad | I had used my hook and couldnt stop reaper from ulti :p |
| 19:18.07 | VIad | so had to try tell them to watch out, we had a mcree |
| 19:29.34 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/IKL5V |
| 19:32.14 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gallery/1ctwRIJ |
| 19:35.22 | VIad | imgur is so entertaining |
| 19:36.18 | VIad | on a serious note. when it comes to GPUs, like msi, asus, evga, whatnot, making GTX, are differences usually small between the vendors or are there some aspects to consider? |
| 19:37.10 | Gnarfoz | each of those offers several models, do you think they do that because they're identical? ;) |
| 19:37.11 | diesal | some use vendor pcbs some deisgn their own |
| 19:37.29 | VIad | I mean take the new GTX1080 for example |
| 19:37.40 | Gnarfoz | they differ, mostly in aspects like power usage, performance (slightly), OC-ability, noise |
| 19:37.52 | diesal | ive stuck with with G1 Gaming the last few generations and have had no problems with them, GTX 780,980, and now 1080 |
| 19:37.56 | Gnarfoz | and there's reviews that cover all of this |
| 19:38.25 | VIad | but if you buy a GTX1080 shouldnt it perform at least as well as the one nvidia designed? |
| 19:38.33 | VIad | or can you get a bad gtx1080 :p |
| 19:38.38 | VIad | compared to other vendors |
| 19:39.23 | diesal | you run that risk with anything, best to read the reviews yourself , better to spenda a few dollars more and go with the card with better customer support |
| 19:39.32 | VIad | I see |
| 19:39.47 | VIad | would hope the baseline would be the nvidia gtx1080 card |
| 19:39.57 | VIad | and the vendors having various improvements on their own versions |
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| 19:42.37 | nevcairiel | the biggest difference is sometimes in build quality, power delivery and cooling |
| 19:43.38 | VIad | as far as the gtx1080 goes, all I can say is that I am pleasantly surprised about its price, compared to the titan when it was new :p |
| 19:44.49 | VIad | in norway the titan cost $1800 while the expensive gtx1080 are around $950 |
| 19:48.10 | Gnarfoz | I doubt you'll find a partner card that is worse than the reference one |
| 19:51.50 | nevcairiel | the cheapo models might |
| 19:53.56 | VIad | there are some very cheap models |
| 19:54.06 | VIad | like down to $500 |
| 19:54.24 | VIad | would start to question those, considering the nvidia one is around $700 |
| 19:54.55 | nevcairiel | that seems wrong, shouldnt be this cheap |
| 19:56.17 | Gnarfoz | http://geizhals.de/?cat=gra16_512&xf=1439_GTX+1080&sort=p |
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| 20:29.11 | foxlit | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:0700032210 << this was a terrible idea. |
| 20:29.45 | kd3 | o_O |
| 20:41.29 | zenzelezz | well that was interesting... 10/12 items on my Steam queue today were some kinds of game creation tools |
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| 20:58.23 | Semlar | Uninitialized variables: "hot" "new" |
| 21:00.06 | foxlit | https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:e3818de381a3e381a80a070003b22210 << there, should be slightly saner. |
| 21:02.27 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: I recommend "icy" and "stuntaz" to complete that list |
| 21:02.37 | Guill | foxlit: Pretty cool! |
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| 21:05.02 | Semlar | there's a /settitle slash command? |
| 21:05.17 | relaxok | foxlit: what is this? |
| 21:05.26 | Semlar | GLOBE |
| 21:05.47 | relaxok | describe? |
| 21:06.08 | Semlar | it provides from statistics for your addon |
| 21:06.31 | Semlar | globals, unaccessed variables, etc |
| 21:06.38 | Semlar | he's run it on the interface |
| 21:06.43 | nevcairiel | globe analysis an addon uploaded to it, dumps you various information about read/written globals and all sorts of other addon info, and tries to point out some common issues |
| 21:08.02 | nevcairiel | a more concise example from one of my libraries https://www.townlong-yak.com/globe/#h:1c4304bd19de0702780de822f3b50e74 |
| 21:09.17 | nevcairiel | although its wrong about one thing |
| 21:09.27 | nevcairiel | foxlit: the link above claims oldversion is not accessed, which is a lie! |
| 21:09.34 | nevcairiel | oh wait |
| 21:09.36 | nevcairiel | my fault, wrong file |
| 21:09.37 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 21:10.02 | nevcairiel | should really name them more oviously distinctive |
| 21:10.04 | relaxok | okay so its a web app that you upload an addon to? |
| 21:10.29 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:11.14 | foxlit | It mostly just catches episodes of temporary insanity. |
| 21:11.33 | Semlar | it's not always temporary |
| 21:11.40 | nevcairiel | i use it occasionally to check for errant globals |
| 21:11.59 | foxlit | like https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/ChatConfigFrame.lua#1937 or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/HelpFrame.lua#551 or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/beta/FriendsFrame.lua#2342 |
| 21:13.29 | relaxok | so how does it work exactly? |
| 21:14.12 | nevcairiel | magic |
| 21:14.38 | nevcairiel | probably uses luac listings and analyzes the output |
| 21:15.00 | relaxok | is there any concept of like, breaking into lua and debugging it line by line with watch values? |
| 21:15.44 | foxlit | (it's a pain to produce /framexml/ links globe output; I should probably fix that) |
| 21:15.48 | foxlit | ^from |
| 21:15.53 | relaxok | that is surely a dumb question but |
| 21:16.53 | foxlit | it's static analysis; input code doesn't actually get to run. |
| 21:17.06 | Semlar | "SparkleTextureKindaSmall" |
| 21:17.34 | relaxok | foxlit: sorry that wasnt related to globe, i was just wondering about debugging lua in general |
| 21:18.01 | foxlit | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.9 exists. |
| 21:18.22 | nevcairiel | unfortunately, not in wow :D |
| 21:18.33 | relaxok | oh interesting |
| 21:19.00 | relaxok | im always wishing for being able to step over certain lines and watch current values etc |
| 21:19.26 | foxlit | In unrelated news, I somehow missed newproxy, pairs, and ipairs. |
| 21:20.08 | relaxok | =D |
| 21:23.01 | relaxok | i'm amazed at how much faster my lua stuff runs with luajit |
| 21:28.54 | Guill | Yeah, exposing any sort of a Lua debugger for you guys would unfortunately be a huge boon to exploit/bot writers, so we can't do it :( |
| 21:29.23 | Neffi | foxlit: do you parse the source? |
| 21:29.39 | Mischanix | Guill: do you have a debugger internally? :o |
| 21:29.45 | Neffi | might be easier to compile to bytecode and look for getglobal opcode |
| 21:29.59 | Guill | Mischanix: Yup! |
| 21:30.11 | Mischanix | neat, how often does that end in tears? :D |
| 21:30.32 | Guill | What do you mean? |
| 21:30.48 | Mischanix | I was under the impression there were two lua states and a big mix of c/lua stacks |
| 21:31.19 | Guill | Ah. Our debugger handles all that pretty well :) |
| 21:32.16 | foxlit | Neffi: yes; it doesn't actually use luac. |
| 21:33.10 | foxlit | there are some quirks there; what is accepted is a slight superset of the language. |
| 21:34.53 | Mischanix | Reminds me, I wanted to look into how the Python stuff in visual studio communicates with the VS debugger: https://github.com/Microsoft/PTVS/wiki/Mixed-Mode-Debugging |
| 21:34.58 | Mischanix | would be neat to make that work for other languages |
| 21:36.32 | Mischanix | there's also the Unity tools which communicate with the mono debug interface, probably in a similar fashion |
| 21:36.40 | VIad | foxlit: it would be amazing if you added a plugin to convert xml to lua code for quick copy and modifications of the xml templates - just an idea |
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| 21:38.33 | foxlit | I'm not sure I see why I wouldn't just use xml for that. |
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| 21:40.26 | VIad | :( |
| 21:40.36 | VIad | am I the only one to like using lua factory? |
| 21:40.38 | Mischanix | Just use xslt |
| 21:52.20 | diesal | did they jsut implement a new staticpopup for running scripts from macros? giving me all sorts or grief |
| 21:52.30 | nevcairiel | they did |
| 21:52.34 | nevcairiel | its a one-time thing tho |
| 21:52.41 | diesal | dont think its properly implemtned yet |
| 21:53.02 | nevcairiel | the code looks like it should ask once and if you OK it it should stop pestering you |
| 21:53.15 | diesal | it does but siliently fails from then on |
| 21:53.35 | diesal | its claiming the original script call im using is from an addon not even assoctiated with the script call |
| 21:54.27 | Semlar | i can't even use /run commands any more because i hooked the edit box so when i type /run it opens my addon instead |
| 21:54.40 | mckenziemc | gg |
| 21:55.33 | diesal | its probably something to with using object:method() calls from within .script in a macro, it dosnt know how to recall it in their onaccpet function on the popup id say |
| 21:55.40 | foxlit | meh, works for me. |
| 21:55.55 | diesal | use a object:method() ? |
| 21:56.01 | diesal | call |
| 21:56.03 | Semlar | what are you trying to type into /run |
| 21:56.23 | diesal | just a reset on my database in my addon |
| 21:56.27 | diesal | just for testing |
| 21:57.12 | Semlar | which would be.. |
| 21:57.21 | nevcairiel | latest ptr build is marked as release |
| 21:57.23 | nevcairiel | fwiw |
| 21:57.49 | p3lim | nevcairiel: expecting it to drop on live servers next wednesday |
| 21:57.58 | foxlit | too soon, executus. |
| 21:58.02 | nevcairiel | its a possiblity |
| 21:58.15 | nevcairiel | might see an announce tomorrow, maybe in the q&a stream |
| 21:58.22 | diesal | like isaid just a object:method() call |
| 21:58.34 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.45 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.45 | p3lim | they don't announce that in Q&A, they announce that on their front page |
| 21:58.48 | Semlar | you do realize it would help if you actually told us what you were doing |
| 21:59.07 | foxlit | although no puppies appear. Critical bug, that. |
| 21:59.09 | nevcairiel | p3lim: they can do multiple things, but they might still do it in the stream first :p |
| 21:59.21 | p3lim | maybe, but not as the only source |
| 21:59.23 | nevcairiel | since it incidentally also covers demon invasion |
| 21:59.25 | Semlar | since it sounds like what you're doing is wrong |
| 22:00.31 | diesal | yeah its to do with object:method() calls, if i wrap it in a warrper function ie. "local f= function() object:method() end f()" it works fine |
| 22:00.49 | diesal | i know what im doing its their fault |
| 22:00.52 | Semlar | except it works fine calling it directly |
| 22:01.04 | diesal | it dosnt for me |
| 22:01.21 | nevcairiel | honestly it seems unlikely to be related to anything like that |
| 22:01.25 | nevcairiel | the code for that is quite simple |
| 22:01.25 | Semlar | well since what you're doing is apparently a secret, what do you want us to do about it |
| 22:01.34 | diesal | their onaccpet method on their staticpopup dosnt know how to deal with methods on object calls |
| 22:01.53 | nevcairiel | the onaccept method does nothing, it doesnt even try to call the opriginal script |
| 22:01.55 | diesal | its not secret i just said what im doing it didnt need anymore context as it was useless to the problem |
| 22:02.18 | nevcairiel | the popup is shown once, if you click ok in it its not involved ever again |
| 22:02.59 | diesal | my macro that dosnt work "/script QuickCode:ResetScripts() ", to get it to work now i had to "/script local f = function() QuickCode:ResetScripts() end f() |
| 22:03.00 | diesal | " |
| 22:03.29 | nevcairiel | well thats most certainly not due to the new popup |
| 22:03.32 | nevcairiel | its literally impossible |
| 22:03.40 | Semlar | how do you know your script isn't working |
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| 22:04.13 | nevcairiel | we can read the code that triggers the popup in ChatFrame.lua, its just a if check |
| 22:04.21 | diesal | becasue that later calls works fine warrping it in non object:method() call , so its something the function is now being parsed thorugh on blizzards end |
| 22:04.43 | diesal | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.49 | diesal | its not even anythign to with elvui though |
| 22:05.02 | nevcairiel | well there you go, elvui tainted your static popups |
| 22:05.27 | nevcairiel | the base UI is fine, elvui broke it for you |
| 22:05.33 | diesal | it was _Dev doing that before hand , i unloaded _Dev |
| 22:05.47 | diesal | then elvui was doing it |
| 22:05.56 | nevcairiel | well its possible for two addons to do it |
| 22:06.00 | Semlar | i did that once by auto-filling the "DELETE" text for item popups |
| 22:06.30 | Semlar | well, mostly because i did it in a horrible way |
| 22:06.36 | nevcairiel | but the code in the default UI that handles this is extremely trivial and really unable to break depending on the script input |
| 22:06.42 | foxlit | fun fact: I did /script StaticPopup1Button1:Set.... and now I know why that didn't work. |
| 22:06.44 | mckenziemc | well there we have it, it's Semlar's fault |
| 22:07.22 | Semlar | what isn't |
| 22:07.47 | diesal | w3ll yeah i guess it was both Elvui and _Dev tainting it, it runs fine disabling both |
| 22:07.58 | Semlar | how do you even get that popup back |
| 22:08.09 | nevcairiel | Semlar: you dont |
| 22:08.12 | Semlar | :( |
| 22:08.48 | diesal | add _Dev to your addons then call a object:method() it should give you the popup |
| 22:09.13 | foxlit | just call SetAllowDangerousScripts(false)... from a secure path. |
| 22:09.22 | Semlar | great |
| 22:09.31 | nevcairiel | nah once you managed to disable the popup properly once, its not going to come back, even with breaking addons |
| 22:09.57 | Semlar | well it must be storing it somewhere |
| 22:09.59 | diesal | ^, yeah just realised that |
| 22:10.03 | diesal | its not coming back now |
| 22:10.18 | nevcairiel | elvui/_Dev only blocked you from disabling it properly |
| 22:10.27 | diesal | FrameXML\StaticPopup.lua:3641: in function `OnAccept' |
| 22:10.27 | diesal | FrameXML\StaticPopup.lua:4256: in function `StaticPopup_OnClick' |
| 22:10.27 | nevcairiel | because thats a secure action |
| 22:10.28 | foxlit | cvar |
| 22:10.36 | Semlar | doesn't seem to be in config.wtf |
| 22:10.43 | diesal | try there they were in the errror stack |
| 22:10.48 | foxlit | it's per-account |
| 22:10.52 | Semlar | ah |
| 22:11.04 | nevcairiel | yeah its in config-cache.wtf |
| 22:11.11 | Semlar | it's AllowDangerousScripts |
| 22:11.17 | Semlar | how appropriate |
| 22:11.23 | nevcairiel | i wonder if you can SetCVar that or if it barks at you |
| 22:11.45 | Semlar | couldn't find the cvar |
| 22:11.51 | Semlar | maybe i typed it wrong |
| 22:12.10 | Guill | Nope, shouldn't be able to SetCVar that one. |
| 22:12.14 | Semlar | aw |
| 22:12.23 | Semlar | yeah it just says the cvar doesn't exist |
| 22:12.45 | diesal | yeah i dont have it either |
| 22:13.09 | nevcairiel | Guill: so what happens if an evil WeakAura just overrides AreDangerousScriptsAllowed or the /script slash command? :) |
| 22:13.38 | nevcairiel | i suppose we should add those things to the WA blacklist |
| 22:13.38 | foxlit | This is about people telling you to /run SendMeAllYourMoney() |
| 22:13.39 | Guill | nevcairiel: If you're already running a malicious AddOn, typing /script isn't going to be any worse for you. |
| 22:14.21 | nevcairiel | Guill: well, to be fair, people got infected by "bad" WA code, and then got talked into running a simple /script command to allow the WA to break out of its limited environment |
| 22:14.32 | Guill | Yeah, the only reason the CVar/function is secure is to stop people from instead saying "type /run SetAllowDangerousScripts(true); SendMeAllYourMoney();" |
| 22:14.52 | foxlit | But it doesn't really save you |
| 22:15.07 | Semlar | you can't save people from themselves |
| 22:15.08 | nevcairiel | i guess we'll just blacklist those symbols in WA and hope for the best |
| 22:15.50 | Guill | nevcairiel: This particular change had nothing to do with WA. The WA sandbox isn't particularly difficult to break out of if someone knows what they're doing. But at least that only affects people who chose to install WeakAuras |
| 22:16.04 | Infus | if you get people to import arbitary weakauras, they are already owened |
| 22:16.23 | Infus | we need a proper sandbox for wa |
| 22:16.26 | foxlit | I mean, it takes one "See this cool hidden special effect by typing /run Something()" line in Trade chat to kill that warning for a given player forever. |
| 22:16.31 | Guill | Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if loadstring and RunScript go away at this point :( We've just had way too many issues with them. |
| 22:16.39 | diesal | WA sandbox? are you using a FEnv ? or something |
| 22:16.59 | Infus | we are, but we have a blacklist instead of a whitelist |
| 22:17.01 | nevcairiel | Guill: how are we ever supposed to develop addons without /script? |
| 22:17.02 | Semlar | well i can't turn it back on in-game so i'm going to have to restart the client to even get the popup back |
| 22:17.11 | foxlit | you can implement /script in your addon :P |
| 22:17.13 | nevcairiel | Infus: if you want to break every single WA with custom code, sure :p |
| 22:17.17 | diesal | nev i making anew devpad :p |
| 22:17.39 | Guill | nevcairiel: If we do decide to remove loadstring and RunScript, we'll figure something out |
| 22:17.59 | nevcairiel | also, one of my addons uses loadstring for smartypants code |
| 22:18.13 | foxlit | cough safecall cough. |
| 22:18.19 | nevcairiel | oh right that too |
| 22:18.29 | nevcairiel | because pcall and xpcall both have silly limitations |
| 22:18.40 | foxlit | There's a *call which doesn't. |
| 22:18.50 | diesal | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68742776/QCode.png |
| 22:19.28 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.48 | diesal | lol :p |
| 22:20.42 | Semlar | i actually haven't figured out a way to do this without causing a stack overflow or running out of memory |
| 22:21.16 | Semlar | it needs to concat the print commands to put them into the edit box |
| 22:21.29 | foxlit | http://i.imgur.com/ELRMbhc.gif |
| 22:21.43 | Semlar | stop hacking foxlit |
| 22:22.38 | diesal | tableexplorer https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68742776/TableExplorer.png ? |
| 22:22.46 | Semlar | guill is there some way to "unset" the font of an edit box |
| 22:23.06 | Semlar | it won't let you set it to a font that doesn't exist or nil |
| 22:23.16 | Guill | Semlar: Why? |
| 22:23.17 | nevcairiel | why do you want an editbox without a font |
| 22:23.30 | foxlit | so that it wouldn't render text, presumably. |
| 22:23.39 | Semlar | it was one of the suggestions that was brought up for copying text out of it without it lagging |
| 22:23.46 | Semlar | if it didn't have to render anything |
| 22:23.52 | mckenziemc | Semlar, you're fired |
| 22:23.55 | Semlar | except i can't even figure out how to do it |
| 22:24.09 | Semlar | i think you can create one with no font set |
| 22:24.15 | Semlar | but not modify it after it's been set |
| 22:24.33 | Guill | What if you just stop trying to copy+paste the full Lord of the Rings trilogy in an edit box? |
| 22:24.36 | Guill | :P |
| 22:24.37 | diesal | what about just hiding the fontstring |
| 22:25.09 | Semlar | i don't actually know what hiding the font string of an edit box would make it do |
| 22:26.31 | Semlar | well you an surprisingly still copy out of it |
| 22:26.54 | Semlar | not sure about how it performs |
| 22:27.28 | Semlar | and i crashed the game |
| 22:27.36 | Semlar | typical |
| 22:27.46 | Guill | gg blizz |
| 22:27.54 | Semlar | YEAH IT'S ALL BLIZZ'S FAULT |
| 22:28.01 | Neffi | Semlar, plzss stop breaking things |
| 22:28.13 | Semlar | no |
| 22:28.13 | Neffi | you are so irresponsible! |
| 22:28.14 | diesal | lol i have a little too much OCD at times, i just rewrote my own version of AceComm because i wanted callbacks that gave me file transfer updates on each chunk sent and how much it had sent so far so i could have a progress bar on incoming chat addon messages |
| 22:28.59 | Semlar | couldn't you just send how large the text being sent is going to be at the start |
| 22:29.52 | diesal | i wanted updates as it came down because of chatthrottlelib, so i mde a custom header that uses hex instead a / with 3 digits |
| 22:30.59 | diesal | kind of like a tcp packet header |
| 22:31.21 | Semlar | i mean if you send something saying you're about to send 10,000 characters to someone, couldn't they just count the amount of text that they've been sent as the progress |
| 22:32.10 | diesal | theres wasnt a callback for it , in the original and it the information wasnt sent before |
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| 22:33.02 | diesal | each chunk now start with [F:FFF:FFF] and fires a call back when a file part is received |
| 22:33.10 | diesal | each 255 char block |
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| 22:34.09 | diesal | ['type of send':'currentpacket'/'totalpackets'] |
| 22:34.48 | Neffi | so you can only have 16 streams in flight? |
| 22:34.58 | mckenziemc | TCP over wow.exe? |
| 22:35.27 | diesal | no its just for sending stuff over the addon channel |
| 22:36.22 | diesal | you can only send blocks of 255 characters and you have to throttle it after awhlie or itll disconnect you if you filll their send buffer to quick |
| 22:36.47 | mckenziemc | sets his sarcasm flag. |
| 22:36.54 | diesal | s sednign around 19kbs of data over teh channel takes around 30 seconds |
| 22:36.58 | diesal | so* |
| 22:37.23 | diesal | so itd be nice to have a progress bar so you know what its doing |
| 22:37.38 | Guill | See, someone should do my idea of making an LLVM Lua backend. Then you could just compile the TCP parts of Linux and let it do all this for you. |
| 22:37.51 | Neffi | haha |
| 22:38.35 | Semlar | neffi will my palm trees grow back if i lop their heads off |
| 22:38.53 | Semlar | they're getting too tall |
| 22:39.16 | kullervo | Semlar: pretty sure they grow new heads from stumps |
| 22:39.24 | Neffi | ritual sacrifice is frowned upon in the jungles of Florida, Semlar |
| 22:39.26 | Semlar | the guy at the nursery told me to do it |
| 22:39.36 | Semlar | and i assume he knows what he's talking about |
| 22:39.39 | kullervo | might even be multiple heads |
| 22:39.50 | Neffi | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 22:40.21 | Semlar | but everything i can find online about palms says it pretty much kills the plant, except they probably aren't talking about this particular type of palm |
| 22:40.34 | kullervo | make a bonsai hydra palm |
| 22:40.51 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.26 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.27 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.35 | Neffi | why are there no leaves in the middle! |
| 22:42.06 | Semlar | well there was a grapefruit tree there.. |
| 22:42.40 | Semlar | i'll be cutting everything back |
| 22:43.32 | Semlar | he said to cut them all to 4 feet or something and just have a forest of sticks |
| 22:45.36 | Infus | Guill: btw, if you have any suggestions for stuff we should definately add to the WA blacklist, we'd appreciate those |
| 22:45.47 | Semlar | Guill: what do you know about landscaping |
| 22:55.12 | foxlit | ... but your blacklist is toothless. |
| 23:02.33 | Guill | Semlar: I was just going to suggest that you make sure it's not actually an Exeggutor before you go at it with an axe. |
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| 23:22.12 | Semlar | too late |
| 23:22.24 | mckenziemc | did you catch it? |
| 23:22.37 | Semlar | not exactly |
| 23:23.56 | Semlar | i chopped it into smaller pieces |
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| 23:35.36 | pompy | http://www.dailydot.com/esports/applications-skin-gambling-class-action/ |
| 23:52.00 | Semlar | i like how this article doesn't go into any detail about what "skin gambling" is |
