| 00:03.57 | Stanzilla | it's called a joke |
| 00:10.53 | mckenziemc | you're called a joke |
| 00:26.17 | [TOM_RUS] | Guill, why do you split x64 and x86 client addon settings in legion? |
| 00:27.56 | Guill | [TOM_RUS]: What do you mean? |
| 00:28.28 | [TOM_RUS] | addons settings being loaded from different folders on x86 and x64 clients |
| 00:28.30 | [TOM_RUS] | why |
| 00:29.07 | NodusCursorius | What? |
| 00:29.41 | NodusCursorius | Where is it saving for you, [TOM_RUS] ? |
| 00:29.42 | Semlar | what folders |
| 00:30.13 | [TOM_RUS] | when I launch x86 client, it reads settings from WTF\Account\116798#0\blablabla, and x64 client reads settings from WTF\Account\116798#5\blablabla |
| 00:31.04 | Semlar | i have a #0 a #3 and a #4 folder for my account |
| 00:32.27 | Semlar | although the #3 hasn't been modified since 2014 so i'm assuming that's from the old beta |
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| 00:34.47 | NodusCursorius | Isn't #n the offset of your account number? |
| 00:40.46 | kd3 | the twitch stream is live. twitch.tv/warcraft |
| 00:44.31 | NodusCursorius | [TOM_RUS], 32x and 64x are both using the same WTF folder for me. |
| 00:45.43 | NodusCursorius | I deleted the WTF folder, the 64bit created WTF\Account\accountnumber#2 and the 32bit used the same folder, on top of not creating or saving to a different folder. |
| 00:46.51 | [TOM_RUS] | weird |
| 00:46.53 | Stanzilla | tom probably logged into a different account to test when running the client twice |
| 00:46.54 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 00:47.01 | NodusCursorius | Agreed |
| 00:47.07 | Guill | [TOM_RUS]: Because someone was doing the equivalent of printf("%d#%d", int64, int32). Fixed now. Thanks for the heads-up! |
| 00:47.32 | [TOM_RUS] | i've tried deleting #0 folder, and it's getting created after I launch x86 client, not to mention all addon settings are missing |
| 00:47.52 | NodusCursorius | [TOM_RUS], delete the WTF folder. I've noticed you have a tendency to leave it in during testing |
| 00:48.09 | NodusCursorius | Guill, I can't reproduce this after four attempts. |
| 00:48.35 | Stanzilla | Guill: the client still creates a "SavedVariables" folder in the /account/ folder btw |
| 00:48.43 | Stanzilla | it's always empty ofc |
| 00:48.52 | NodusCursorius | Stanzilla, I don't have that either. How can it be reproduced? |
| 00:49.07 | Stanzilla | no idea, it just always comes back when I delete it |
| 00:49.23 | MiRai | Stanzilla: Don't some add-ons use that folder? |
| 00:49.30 | Stanzilla | MiRai: no |
| 00:49.34 | MiRai | both account-level and character-level SavedVariables? |
| 00:49.41 | NodusCursorius | Does it come back when you're working without a remaining WTF folder, Stanzilla? |
| 00:49.43 | Stanzilla | SV *inside* account folder is used |
| 00:49.49 | Stanzilla | SV *next* to account folder is bug |
| 00:50.14 | Stanzilla | like this http://i.imgur.com/hzQyiIS.png |
| 00:50.44 | NodusCursorius | Can you reproduce it if you remove your WTF folder (or just rename it)? |
| 00:50.46 | MiRai | I see... I just misinterpreted the way you said it |
| 00:50.53 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 00:50.57 | Stanzilla | my wording is not the greates |
| 00:51.00 | Stanzilla | and trying now, NodusCursorius |
| 00:51.13 | Stanzilla | I reported that during MoP though |
| 00:51.19 | Stanzilla | always had it since then I think |
| 00:53.05 | Guill | That one probably isn't worth looking in to for now. Doesn't really hurt anyone to have an extra folder that does nothing |
| 00:53.29 | Stanzilla | Guill hates me, confirmed :( |
| 00:53.32 | Stanzilla | (I get it :P) |
| 00:53.43 | [TOM_RUS] | I think that empty folder only getting created when realms are down or something like that |
| 00:53.52 | Stanzilla | NodusCursorius: didnt come back immediately |
| 00:54.25 | NodusCursorius | Stanzilla, I can not get an empty SavedVariables folder. I also can not force a second # account folder. |
| 00:54.28 | Stanzilla | [TOM_RUS]: that actually makes sense |
| 00:55.22 | NodusCursorius | Wait, Guill, but we can't reproduce that. At all. |
| 00:56.08 | NodusCursorius | Each time I delete the WTF folder, whether or not I pick 32bit or 64bit first, the second one never creates a second account folder. |
| 00:56.11 | Guill | NodusCursorius: I was able to! Running a 32-bit client on beta made an accountID#0 folder |
| 00:56.30 | Guill | Oh, the second account folder? Yeah, no idea about that one. I'd believe that it's only when servers are down or something |
| 00:56.54 | Guill | err, SavedVariables. Nevermind, ignore me, I'm sleep deprived. |
| 00:57.27 | NodusCursorius | I'm playing with the 32-bit and it's still using 89xxxx#2 that 64-bit created before it. |
| 00:57.32 | NodusCursorius | is going to have to solve this. |
| 00:57.51 | Stanzilla | why |
| 00:57.53 | Stanzilla | he just fixed it |
| 00:58.51 | Guill | NodusCursorius: You sure you're running the 32-bit client? |
| 00:58.58 | NodusCursorius | Because the only time I've had a second folder created for accounts in the beta is when people were complaining about settings/keybindings failing (accounts were being shifted internally) |
| 00:59.09 | NodusCursorius | Guill, indeed. with -noautoload64bit |
| 00:59.29 | Guill | Use process manager to double check? |
| 01:00.34 | [TOM_RUS] | it's -noautolaunch64bit |
| 01:00.47 | NodusCursorius | Fuck |
| 01:00.53 | Stanzilla | [x] rekt |
| 01:01.14 | Semlar | you can just tell it to use 32 bit from the launcher |
| 01:01.39 | NodusCursorius | I do, but for these quick tests I was just command lining it :P Clearly I should have used the launcher where I had set the flag. |
| 01:01.57 | NodusCursorius | Guill, I am a moron and good catch, [TOM_RUS] |
| 01:03.30 | Semlar | here guill https://gfycat.com/InsistentBossyBats |
| 01:03.37 | Stanzilla | does it help you if I tell you that I will always be a bigger moron than you, NodusCursorius |
| 01:05.10 | NodusCursorius | You're a brilliant lad, Stanzilla. I'm just an old man with a Skooma problem. |
| 01:05.31 | Torhal | hides Stanzilla's Moon Sugar. |
| 01:05.49 | Stanzilla | :E |
| 01:05.53 | NodusCursorius | haha |
| 01:06.04 | Guill | Semlar: Is that using the action cam stuff for looking at the targets? |
| 01:06.39 | Semlar | no it's actually using the camera functions to rotate it and the nameplate's position to figure out when to stop |
| 01:06.56 | Semlar | to be honest i didn't know we could even still move the camera |
| 01:07.02 | Guill | Yeah, I thought that stuff was protected |
| 01:07.06 | Guill | Maybe only in combat? |
| 01:07.10 | NodusCursorius | gg, Semlar |
| 01:07.13 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 01:07.41 | NodusCursorius | Does is still work while in combat? |
| 01:07.51 | Semlar | i'm like 90% sure these aren't protected ever |
| 01:07.55 | Semlar | i could go check |
| 01:08.08 | tz | camera would be fine, turning character would be problematic, no? |
| 01:08.19 | Semlar | yeah it doesn't move the character |
| 01:08.28 | tz | wrt combat |
| 01:08.44 | NodusCursorius | Dark wizards don't need facing, tz. Camera is enough. |
| 01:08.51 | Guill | Semlar: Which functions are you using? I can check real quicklyu |
| 01:09.05 | Semlar | i just checked, it still works in combat |
| 01:09.15 | Semlar | MoveViewLeftStart() etc |
| 01:09.55 | Semlar | i was going to use FlipCameraYaw but while it does rotate the camera, it makes it so holding down right click is offset from the correct angle |
| 01:10.12 | Semlar | which is pretty funny by itself |
| 01:11.31 | Semlar | eg. if you do FlipCameraYaw(90), holding down right click keeps the character facing 90 degrees to the right while holding down right click |
| 01:11.55 | Munk | Guill: Do you know if the action cam is here to stay? Rather not delve into it only to have it yanked away before launch. |
| 01:12.09 | Semlar | guill's busy removing all of our camera functions right now |
| 01:12.39 | Guill | Munk: No idea. |
| 01:13.09 | Semlar | https://gfycat.com/PessimisticWholeIndianrockpython |
| 01:13.21 | Munk | That looks very nice Semlar. |
| 01:13.29 | Stanzilla | brb having a seizure |
| 01:13.31 | NodusCursorius | lol |
| 01:13.38 | Semlar | well i tried |
| 01:13.43 | tz | april 1st is a while away, gives you time to perfect it |
| 01:14.09 | Semlar | it's trying to keep the nameplate in the center but it's overshooting its mark so it tries to flip the camera the other way |
| 01:17.02 | Semlar | Guill how come i can't get the name of the person i'm supposed to turn a quest into |
| 01:17.30 | Munk | Maybe because it's not always a person? |
| 01:17.50 | Semlar | yeah but what about the other times |
| 01:18.02 | Munk | IsQuestGiverARandomStone() |
| 01:18.27 | Guill | I'm not sure we really have that information. I think that's non-static data on the NPC/object. There's some amount of static data for displaying it on the minimap when you're out of AOI, but I don't know how accurate/complete that is. |
| 01:18.32 | Stanzilla | hey stones can have names, too |
| 01:18.38 | Stanzilla | I named mine george |
| 01:19.56 | Semlar | i wanted to be able to mark a nameplate with a question mark when you can turn something into them |
| 01:21.07 | Guill | Oh, if they're in your AOI that information is probably available. Not sure how difficult it would be to expose though. Probably not happening for 7.0 |
| 01:21.33 | Semlar | that's okay i have a backup plan |
| 01:22.04 | Semlar | every time a nameplate shows up i'll just scan for its name in all of my quest text |
| 01:22.10 | Munk | Speaking of camera stuff, I wish there was a way to get information about the camera zoom that doesn't resort to hooking CameraZoomIn, zooming it all the way in to get a baseline value and then tracking it from that. |
| 01:22.14 | Semlar | i'm sure that won't cause any problems |
| 01:22.44 | Semlar | we used to be able to get the camera zoom, look where that got us |
| 01:22.55 | kd3 | more the camera position |
| 01:23.03 | Semlar | zoom is half the position! |
| 01:23.07 | Munk | I guess it could be used for automation in some cases? |
| 01:23.19 | Semlar | it was used to draw on the 3D world |
| 01:23.24 | Torhal | AVR |
| 01:23.39 | tz | AVR>PIC, tbh |
| 01:24.31 | Semlar | you could actually probably technically get the zoom since you can reset the camera to its default position and manually tell it to zoom out |
| 01:24.50 | Semlar | granted that would have the downside of taking over their camera |
| 01:25.58 | Semlar | although i guess you already said that |
| 01:26.08 | Munk | In a way, I did, yes. |
| 01:26.13 | Semlar | i wasn't listening |
| 01:26.40 | Semlar | there's a giant storm going on outside |
| 01:27.26 | mckenziemc | that's a UFO |
| 01:27.39 | Semlar | no i'm pretty sure it's a storm |
| 01:27.54 | mckenziemc | of UFOs |
| 01:28.09 | mckenziemc | they want you to go outside |
| 01:28.11 | Semlar | apparently they've named it |
| 01:28.53 | Semlar | tropical storm colin |
| 01:29.04 | Torhal | A colon storm? WAT |
| 01:29.11 | Semlar | yeah it's going to get messy |
| 01:29.20 | Semlar | i better hunker down |
| 01:30.01 | mckenziemc | http://advancewars.wikia.com/wiki/Colin |
| 01:30.03 | Guill | Semlar: Feel free to send some of that rain over here. |
| 01:30.08 | kd3 | ^ |
| 01:30.11 | Semlar | i don't need any more trees coming down on my house |
| 01:30.13 | kd3 | el nino didn't give us enough |
| 01:34.21 | Munk | This should be a real thing https://gfycat.com/IndelibleClearAfricanmolesnake |
| 01:34.32 | Munk | Most modern MMOs have it, I think. |
| 01:34.47 | Semlar | looting? |
| 01:34.57 | Munk | Nah, a binding to loot. |
| 01:35.25 | kd3 | that's what the lootarang is for |
| 01:35.27 | Semlar | to just loot anything nearby? |
| 01:35.50 | Munk | You're right kd3, but I heard they're limiting that to Draenor. |
| 01:36.01 | Semlar | what if you shrunk the worldframe down and put it under your mouse and hit the hotkey |
| 01:36.09 | Munk | Lol what. |
| 01:36.09 | Semlar | i mean what |
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| 02:30.38 | Fisker | high fives Cairenn |
| 02:30.44 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 02:30.52 | Fisker | Hey |
| 02:32.55 | mckenziemc | hugs Cairenn and high-fives Fisker's face. |
| 02:33.02 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
| 02:39.31 | Ressy | The pictures coming from the premiere looks cool. |
| 02:39.38 | Ressy | Jamie Lee Curtis is there & talking with people |
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| 03:54.11 | mckenziemc | ~botsnack |
| 03:54.11 | purl | :), mckenziemc |
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| 05:28.42 | nebula | so to fix textures in the beta, you need to rename everything to *.blp? that's annoying |
| 05:34.19 | Semlar | renames nebula to nebula.blp |
| 05:35.21 | Semlar | yeah guill decided to add .blp to every SetTexture call |
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| 05:58.02 | nebula | i assume that is something that will be fixed...right? |
| 06:01.59 | Miiru | everything will be fixed! |
| 06:02.21 | Miiru | (soon) |
| 06:05.10 | Semlar | i tried to talk him out of it but he insisted it was for the best |
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| 06:29.11 | Miiru | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.18 | Miiru | that would be fun \o/ |
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| 09:12.05 | nevcairiel | people just posting maxbid on items is silly and takes all the fun out of such a place |
| 09:16.32 | Miiru | what otehr system to use? |
| 09:17.04 | Miiru | analyse the goldpool of people and make offers to each group of people which a certain amaount of gold? |
| 09:17.21 | Miiru | like offer a is for people who have 100k max? |
| 09:19.43 | nevcairiel | part of the fun in auctioning for something you really want is to actually auction, and not just go there and bid the limit so noone else can get any chance, so maybe there should be a limit on how much you can bid over the current price, so it only goes up slowly, and while at it, maybe get rid of the max as well |
| 09:20.18 | nevcairiel | right now for the really rare items its just a function of who gets there first and bids the million |
| 09:20.34 | Miiru | yea thats true |
| 09:21.38 | Miiru | people would probably exploit that limit anyhow |
| 09:21.46 | Miiru | with multiple accounts or friends or whatever |
| 09:23.53 | Miiru | maybe they should not sell items that are not acquirable anymore |
| 09:24.16 | Miiru | i dont get how people can spend 1million on like onyxias mount |
| 09:24.52 | VIad | Miiru: I saw several peoplewith T3 and corrupted ashbringers, purely from the BMAH :p |
| 09:25.02 | Miiru | corrupted shabringer is sold? |
| 09:25.06 | VIad | only thing I have bought is the epic guitar axe |
| 09:26.00 | Miiru | i have that guitar on a char at the time but i think i sold it >.< |
| 09:26.04 | Miiru | *had |
| 09:27.12 | VIad | :( |
| 09:27.27 | VIad | didnt they add it back as a skin for artifact? |
| 09:27.43 | Miiru | for warrior i think? |
| 09:30.00 | VIad | paladin? |
| 09:44.06 | Miiru | i bet they added the facebook login thing because of the movie and the potential new players |
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| 10:30.34 | VIad | Miiru: facebook login :/ |
| 10:30.48 | VIad | where is my google login? |
| 10:30.55 | VIad | or microsoft login :p |
| 10:32.11 | VIad | I don't use facebook or twitter, but I've seen the spam wall on facebook. now with more wow, I guess. |
| 10:32.35 | VIad | my friends facebook update wall thing reminds me of imgur |
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| 12:04.42 | Miiru | sb should write an addon that shows the world quest of each region in a list, rewards including |
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| 12:33.53 | nevcairiel | i would be happy with a broker_garrison cloen for the pertinent order hall info, sb get on that! |
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| 14:55.45 | VIad | hmm... gear is still really weird |
| 14:55.46 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1465311339.png |
| 14:56.13 | VIad | this item is 15 ilvl higher, so it's better! but it gives less mastery, stat you want to stack on your tank... |
| 15:02.05 | nevcairiel | it gives you over 100 primary stat, there is no question about it |
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| 15:18.53 | VIad | I dont know the maths, so I just hope its better, as you said, a lot more prim stat |
| 15:19.04 | VIad | just unsure like, 100 prim stat vs 1000 mastery? |
| 15:19.15 | VIad | to the number crunching machine! |
| 15:25.24 | Ironii | +100 primary stat, +200sta +more secondary stats, why are you even wondering which is better ? :P |
| 15:30.33 | VIad | sta is nice but doesn't actively do much regarding damage mitigation though |
| 15:31.57 | VIad | there have been cases where ilvl doesnt matter and often secondary stats was worth more, based on simcraft |
| 15:32.11 | VIad | just hoping that this isnt the case in legion |
| 15:34.11 | kullervo | stamina for tanks has traditionally been a very bad choise |
| 15:34.28 | VIad | DH tank, crit=parry, got some paladin action going on I see :p |
| 15:34.32 | VIad | or old blood DK in mop |
| 15:35.13 | VIad | I dont understand the tooltips, the green text |
| 15:35.24 | VIad | throw glaive - 3.35 sec CD |
| 15:35.26 | VIad | its in green |
| 15:35.53 | VIad | like haste reduced the CD? but why only on that spell? I got other spells with CD that dont have green text :p |
| 15:36.29 | nevcairiel | not all spells reduce the CD by haste |
| 15:36.36 | VIad | :( |
| 15:36.38 | nevcairiel | only those with green text |
| 15:36.40 | VIad | is that new thing? |
| 15:36.53 | nevcairiel | the marking in the tooltip is new |
| 15:36.54 | VIad | the haste=CD reduction |
| 15:36.56 | VIad | aha |
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| 16:01.42 | Ironii | yea kullervo stamina isn't something that you need to stack, but you shouldn't ignore its benefits ;P |
| 16:02.54 | Semlar | higher item level, that's all you need to know |
| 16:02.57 | VIad | there are far fewer situations where the stamina is a real factor when deciding what item to use, usually its prim/sec stats |
| 16:03.23 | VIad | stat weights usually place stam lower |
| 16:04.50 | Semlar | well yeah there's like 50% more stamina on a piece of gear than your primary stat so it would have to be weighed lower |
| 16:05.10 | nevcairiel | most people ignore sta because its just tied to the item level and therefor the primary stat as well |
| 16:05.32 | nevcairiel | and primary is just king for the majority of classes |
| 16:05.36 | Semlar | i ignore everything except item level because that's the only stat that matters |
| 16:06.20 | VIad | there are cases when ilvl, even if higher, has worse stats, than the stats your character really needs |
| 16:06.40 | VIad | given other pieces of gear, deminishing returns caps on stats, etc. |
| 16:07.10 | nevcairiel | thats not a concern during pre-raid gearing either way =p |
| 16:07.16 | VIad | of course |
| 16:07.26 | Semlar | practically the only time i wouldn't take a higher item level item would be if it was going to break a set |
| 16:07.46 | VIad | some high ilvl gear might have crap stats too |
| 16:07.53 | VIad | like 5k stamina and +20 ilvl more |
| 16:08.15 | VIad | like a pure stamina trinket :p |
| 16:08.23 | Semlar | trinkets are completely different |
| 16:08.28 | VIad | ring, neck |
| 16:08.38 | nevcairiel | trinkets are a bit special since most dont have stats as such either way, or only one stat |
| 16:08.58 | VIad | in legion it seems trinkets have 2 stats, prim and a secondary |
| 16:09.04 | Semlar | your secondary stats would really have to suck to not consider a higher ilevel item to be an upgrade |
| 16:09.05 | VIad | the once I've seen <820 ilvl |
| 16:09.19 | VIad | had a real case earlier |
| 16:09.24 | VIad | 15 ilvl higher |
| 16:09.32 | VIad | gained 50-100 prim stats |
| 16:09.38 | VIad | but lost like 800 mastery |
| 16:09.47 | VIad | and got like 800 haste |
| 16:10.00 | nevcairiel | those are just the leveling trinkets |
| 16:10.06 | VIad | it just feels bad, sure more ilvl, more prim stats, but lost so much mastery |
| 16:10.07 | nevcairiel | dungeon and raids drops just work like any others |
| 16:10.22 | VIad | shame that gear works differently when leveling |
| 16:10.33 | VIad | why not upkeep the scaling they use later on? |
| 16:10.48 | VIad | just for the sake of training new players |
| 16:11.13 | Mr_Rabies | because there's not a huge difference if a monster dies in 12 seconds as opposed to 11 |
| 16:11.28 | Mr_Rabies | min/maxing stats really isn't necessary while leveling |
| 16:11.33 | VIad | thats like one thing that usually kills my desire to play other mmos, they use weird stats and have no good way to teach you what is good, so you never feel like doing the right choices knowing you probably pick crap stats :/ |
| 16:11.45 | Mr_Rabies | hell, i've worn my raiding gear for the previous expansion in almost every expansion for almost the whole time i've been leveling |
| 16:11.57 | VIad | what ilvl are you, Mr_Rabies? |
| 16:12.02 | VIad | 740? |
| 16:12.38 | VIad | like last expansion, will probably last until 105 and then have to swap out the loadout with the better 760+ green/blues :d |
| 16:12.45 | nevcairiel | i just replace items with higher ilvl during leveling without a second thought, otherwise i still have my raid ilvl when i hit max and have to catch up before being able to do shit |
| 16:13.03 | VIad | set bonuses are usually useless |
| 16:13.32 | VIad | not to mention they will probably diminish the effect of all the 100 bonuses |
| 16:13.38 | VIad | like the legendary ring bonus |
| 16:13.55 | VIad | each level up you go will probably strip 10% of the effect |
| 16:14.24 | nevcairiel | a max ring will probably last until max level though, 795 is pretty high |
| 16:14.25 | VIad | hmmm... I got those heirloom trinkets from mythic |
| 16:14.33 | VIad | ah right |
| 16:14.40 | VIad | yeah that will last like normal mode dungeons |
| 16:14.44 | VIad | heroics are 815+ |
| 16:14.46 | VIad | or 820 |
| 16:14.47 | nevcairiel | but yeah likely turned off the effect eventually |
| 16:15.00 | VIad | I recommend doing mythics for the heirloom trinkets |
| 16:15.00 | nevcairiel | normals drop 805, heroics 825 or so |
| 16:15.09 | VIad | those babies are like 815 arent they? |
| 16:18.19 | VIad | anyone played with simcraft? |
| 16:18.27 | VIad | making stat weights |
| 16:18.39 | VIad | probably enough people already doing that, but still |
| 16:18.40 | Mr_Rabies | like 727ish VIad |
| 16:18.41 | nevcairiel | balancing has barely started, makes no sense |
| 16:18.52 | VIad | I meant generally, not for legion :) |
| 16:19.01 | VIad | nice Mr_Rabies, so you can use the gear until 103 max :d |
| 16:19.04 | VIad | or 102 |
| 16:19.07 | Mr_Rabies | eh, maybe |
| 16:19.24 | Mr_Rabies | oh right, they're killing set bonuses for <legion gear right |
| 16:19.55 | VIad | shrug |
| 16:20.04 | VIad | heard somewhere "set bonuses are back for lfr!" |
| 16:20.19 | VIad | you have a generic leveling set you can upgrade, like pre raid sets probably |
| 16:20.27 | VIad | though first bonuses are crap |
| 16:20.50 | nevcairiel | the 2p bonus is quite amazing when you're out in the world doing shit |
| 16:21.09 | VIad | I guess. it is the early bonus you get for leveling :) |
| 16:21.14 | nevcairiel | you regen so fast, barely have to bother eating or drinking |
| 16:21.26 | VIad | as tank I guess I just never noticed that issue :< |
| 16:21.43 | VIad | tank DH new blood DKs? |
| 16:21.45 | nevcairiel | then you dont pull enough |
| 16:22.13 | VIad | I consider myself pretty good at pulling a lot :( |
| 16:22.19 | nevcairiel | or DHs are just broken right now, which is always an option for new classes |
| 16:22.27 | VIad | jupp |
| 16:22.33 | VIad | they already got a lot of nerfs in the log last patch |
| 16:22.39 | VIad | % reductions on most spells |
| 16:22.40 | yalb | VIad: sandbox:1: syntax error near 'on' |
| 16:22.58 | VIad | % reductions |
| 16:22.59 | yalb | VIad: sandbox:2: syntax error near <eof> |
| 16:23.16 | VIad | why isnt "reductions" erroring, but the word after? |
| 16:23.46 | nevcairiel | could be a variable name, and it just doesnt find anything to make it a statement |
| 16:24.24 | VIad | yeah thats true |
| 16:24.33 | VIad | it probably expected = or something |
| 16:27.53 | Kesava | do brewmasters not use chi at all anymore? |
| 16:28.01 | Kesava | i still seem to be generating it. |
| 16:28.22 | VIad | like, do palas even have holy power? |
| 16:28.33 | VIad | blizz seem to be removing a lot of like, combopoint systems |
| 16:28.37 | nevcairiel | only windwalkers and retribution, respectively |
| 16:28.53 | Kesava | i see |
| 16:28.54 | nevcairiel | they just got rid of those resource systems on tanks mostly |
| 16:29.07 | VIad | poor prot paladins |
| 16:29.19 | VIad | month ago it looked like spam what ever is not on cooldown |
| 16:29.44 | VIad | stuff go weird when the resource cost isnt the issue, but the CD is, maybe knowing what to use first if ST/aoe |
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| 17:45.58 | Guill | BTW, the ".blp" issue people were talking about should be fixed soon(tm) |
| 17:46.08 | kd3 | huzzah |
| 17:46.39 | Fisker | how do you even pronounce .blp? |
| 17:46.40 | Torhal | hands Guill a ⢠|
| 17:47.08 | Guill | Fisker: Clearly "blip" |
| 17:47.20 | Fisker | I was thinking like bulb |
| 17:47.26 | Torhal | I thought it was Dot Blip. |
| 17:47.38 | Fisker | master troll Torhal |
| 17:47.39 | kd3 | I always spelled it out. bee-ell-pee |
| 17:47.45 | Kesava | i've always said bulp. with a long U. like boolp. |
| 17:47.50 | NodusCursorius | Same, one of the rare extensions I spell out. |
| 17:48.04 | Fisker | btw it's jif not gif |
| 17:48.06 | Semlar | i spell it out |
| 17:48.07 | Fisker | runs |
| 17:48.29 | Torhal | converts Fisker to JPEG. |
| 17:48.53 | NodusCursorius | converts Torhal to TGA |
| 17:49.14 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.21 | Torhal | transcodes NodusCursorius to TiFF. |
| 17:49.34 | NodusCursorius | is kilt |
| 17:49.52 | Fisker | 46millibit Semlar? |
| 17:49.54 | Fisker | Pretty amazing |
| 17:50.16 | NodusCursorius | What does Atlas do, now that we have the dungeon and raid journal? |
| 17:50.32 | Semlar | i have never used atlas so i have no idea but a lot of people apparently use it for something |
| 17:51.37 | kd3 | inertia, I guess |
| 17:51.37 | Gnarfoz | even though the description seems to indicate otherwise, maybe it's based on the new "texture atlas" feature? |
| 17:51.44 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.54 | kd3 | oof |
| 17:51.57 | Semlar | >_> |
| 17:52.02 | Gnarfoz | backups, yo |
| 17:52.16 | Gnarfoz | Guill: it's really not an acronym? like wtf or mpq are? :O |
| 17:52.43 | NodusCursorius | Blizzard Licensed Product |
| 17:52.57 | Kesava | BLizzard Picture. |
| 17:52.59 | Kesava | clearly |
| 17:53.21 | NodusCursorius | Battlenet Linguistic Peripheral |
| 17:53.38 | Torhal | Blizzard Licentious Photographs? |
| 17:53.40 | Torhal | >.> |
| 17:54.02 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:54.02 | Gnarfoz | Kesava is probably too close for comfort |
| 17:54.05 | Gnarfoz | (as usual) |
| 17:54.14 | NodusCursorius | Semlar++; |
| 17:54.22 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: -licentious (wtf is that?) +lewd |
| 17:54.22 | Torhal | Google should hire you to redo Maps, Semlar. |
| 17:54.26 | Semlar | i agree |
| 17:54.31 | NodusCursorius | Anyone who complaints about too much information should improve their visual throttling. |
| 17:54.32 | Fisker | butts lol please? |
| 17:54.47 | Torhal | Fisker wins. |
| 17:55.07 | Fisker | ^^ |
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| 19:09.04 | VIad | didn't blizz try to add a cross faction queue for ashran? |
| 19:09.16 | VIad | allow people from one faction to queue as the other for the sake of queue times |
| 19:09.24 | VIad | dont think it made it live though |
| 19:09.31 | kd3 | it's in |
| 19:09.53 | VIad | ah nice |
| 19:12.51 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 19:12.51 | Fisker | i |
| 19:12.56 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 19:13.56 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/Mercenary_Mode |
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| 20:50.11 | Semlar | Guill: i noticed GetMapOverlayInfo has an argument for displaying on mouseover, do you know how this is actually used? |
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| 21:00.41 | Guill | Semlar: Should be pretty easy to figure out what it does by looking at the default UI code. As to when designers decide to flag that, I have no idea |
| 21:03.21 | Semlar | it shows the map overlay when you mouse over it but i don't know what kind of maps that would be used for |
| 21:04.25 | Semlar | although i suppose i could find out |
| 21:16.05 | Semlar | it seems to be used 1 time to highlight some caves in highmountain |
| 21:21.25 | Semlar | maybe it's highlighting entrances and exits for tunnels |
| 21:24.35 | mckenziemc | highlights Semlar's entrance and exit. |
| 21:29.02 | VIad | so here is an idea you will HATE |
| 21:29.33 | VIad | like how mercenary mode works, make it so realid/bnet friends can group cross faction by converting the members into leaders faction so you can world quest, roam, dungeon, etc. |
| 21:30.29 | VIad | like I talked to a old friend of mine, he plays, but horde, so can't really play with him, and many other friends that just happen to be horde. still got friends on alliance, so its not like swapping fixed the "problem" :p |
| 21:30.57 | Predicate | So play both...? |
| 21:31.15 | Predicate | Grouping cross-faction would require major reworking. |
| 21:31.24 | VIad | they already implemented it for ashran |
| 21:31.33 | VIad | based on that work :) |
| 21:33.30 | Predicate | And even that is pretty hackish. |
| 21:33.37 | VIad | told you, you wouldnt like it :D |
| 21:33.42 | VIad | I think it would be awesome |
| 21:33.55 | VIad | to be able to play with what ever friends you have cross faction too, do some dungeons, etc. |
| 21:34.07 | Semlar | i think you shouldn't be able to group with anyone outside of your guild |
| 21:34.09 | Predicate | In a perfect world, it would be convenient, yes. But entirely impractical at this point, I think. |
| 21:35.21 | Gnarfoz | also, playing with stinking Horde basically amounts to treason. |
| 21:36.17 | VIad | they don't know, you appear horde to them :> |
| 21:36.30 | Semlar | the jig might be up when you use every man for himself |
| 21:36.33 | VIad | can't quest of course, like, would only work with the latest content quests that are like world quests and such perhaps, but no faction specific |
| 21:36.46 | VIad | nah they replace the passives and such with the race equivalent |
| 21:46.05 | VIad | hbonordic uses flash/rmtp :( |
| 21:46.23 | VIad | no html5, no plans for html5, chrome soon shutting off npapi support |
| 21:46.31 | VIad | gon be gr8 |
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| 22:48.59 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it'll just use ppflash anyway? :p |
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