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00:16.43FireSikuHow exactly do you benchmark stuff in WoW? Using GetTime() and 20 million loops still gives me the same start and end time, despite causing the client to freeze for a good 5 seconds.
00:20.39foxlithttp://wow.gamepedia.com/API_debugprofilestop
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00:24.47NeffiFireSiku: GetTime returns a cached value that's only updated once per render frame
00:28.38FireSikuThat's unfortunate, but foxlit's link is working wonderfully.
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04:26.49FireSikuI had received an email from my ISP that certain regions would go offline until 7am due to maintenance and new hardware, spent the past 3 hours feeling like majora's mask on the final day. Now that its 30 minutes past and still online, I feel more like it was Y2K all over again.
04:32.46Fiskercries and hugs Cairenn
04:33.00Cairennhugs Fisker
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04:45.00Arrowmasterit would be very odd for them to have any extended downtime for that
04:45.45Arrowmasteryou probably wouldnt notice anything other than the headend you are connected to being replaced
04:47.25FireSikuI'm using a startup ISP reseller or something along these lines, due to the fact I live in the middle of nowhere and there isnt a single cable company with coverage of where I live.
04:54.34fewyni wonder if blizzard is going to nerf the server hop addon in legion
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08:13.28Kesavawe can hope
08:16.00nevcairieldidnt you even write one of those Kesava
08:16.16Kesava... i suppose it could be used as one but i didn't have that purpose in mind
08:16.34Kesavai made it for the boss groups in tanaan. since they filled up instantly
08:16.46nevcairielwell realm jumping is realm jumping
08:16.54nevcairielno matter for what purpose
08:17.02Kesavawell that's blizzard's fault
08:17.21Semlarstop hacking kesava
08:18.15VIadI wonder when blizzard will protect/hardware the api for groups related to the group finder
08:18.31nevcairielthat wouldnt change shit, just make things slightly less convenient
08:18.32Semlari think they should just remove the ability to group with other people
08:18.38VIadlike they stopped a lot of the guild invite spam addons, could happen to group finder if people make addons to automate realm hopping
08:18.54Kesavayeah removing tapping was the first step in entirely getting rid of groups imo
08:19.37Kesavathey only managed to "fix" that by removing <20s from /who though
08:19.48nevcairielthe problem with realm hopping isnt addons facilitating this, but the entire concept itself
08:19.52Kesava... didn't really fix much when you can just /who anyone who isn't in a guild
08:20.11VIadyou got rid of the addons spamming out invites like it used to be
08:20.19VIadand yes the concept itself is the issue
08:20.25Kesavabut but it's good
08:20.29Kesavait just gets abused
08:20.36VIadif you want to find something that is not on your realm, you abuse it and jump realms until you find it
08:20.40Semlarit certainly wasn't as prolific as it was until they added the group finder
08:20.57nevcairielof course because before you actually had to know people to jump realms
08:21.19nevcairielwhen a rare isnt up, you shouldnt have the ability to find it on 100 different realms really, that just dilutes the concept of a rare
08:21.27VIadoh about that
08:21.33VIadany poundfist like rare in legion?
08:21.45VIadlike one/two spawns a week rares
08:21.50nevcairielthey should just limit the phasing to other realms to the zone the leader is in or something like that
08:21.58nevcairielwould already limit it tremendously
08:22.10nevcairieland not impact game play
08:22.28VIadwould be fun
08:22.29nevcairiel(once you reach his zone, you would phase over)
08:23.03VIadpull some boss/pvp near zone change edge, have your healers on the other side, heal spam tank, boss cant see healers in the other zone :d
08:23.38VIadunless they also made the group members phase ofc
08:23.50VIadwas under the impression grouped people are always visible to each other
08:23.53nevcairielyou cant pull bosses like that
08:24.05VIadtrue
08:24.06Semlargrouped people are definitely not always visible to each other
08:24.20VIadmobs these days evade if you pull them >30 yards from their spawn point
08:24.32VIadcan't even get some good aoe going as a tank :(
08:24.50VIadwish blizz would add nameplate indicator when a mob will be evading
08:25.15VIadI guess it is purely ranged based, since you can hit it in the face and it would still evade eventually
08:25.20nevcairielits not a concept you are supposed to have perfect control over =p
08:26.15Semlarmobs evade in response to being attacked, it's not a state
08:27.14VIadback in the day hitting it would prolong the evade state
08:27.29VIadbut they figured people could kite what ever how ever far they wanted that way
08:27.35VIadso now its purely ranged based I am sure
08:27.47Semlarmobs evade because they can't attack their target
08:28.06VIadthey also evade back to their spawn if you pull them too far
08:28.21Semlarthat's leashing
08:28.29nevcairielgame considers that evade too though
08:28.30VIadI didnt know it was called leashing
08:28.31Semlarand i highly doubt they made every mob leash to its spawn point
08:28.35VIadgame just says evade
08:28.50VIadon legion as tank I aoe a lot, often mobs leash back to their spawns
08:29.00nevcairielthey dont leash to their spawn, they leash to the position they were in when you pulled them =p
08:29.20Semlarhe said mobs leash if you try and pull them more than 30 yards
08:29.22Semlarwhich is absurd
08:29.23VIadtheir spawn is basically a small circle where it is considered home and they wander around it :p
08:29.32nevcairielits more than that
08:29.33VIadI dont know the exact number
08:29.39nevcairiel30y is nothing
08:29.40VIadbut there is some magical distance
08:29.43nevcairieli can cast further than that
08:30.01Semlaras long as you're doing something to keep them interested i doubt they'd reset
08:30.04VIadnope
08:30.07nevcairielactually they do
08:30.17nevcairielyou cant kite mobs infinitely anymore
08:30.22Semlarsince when
08:30.23VIadthats right
08:30.26nevcairielfor ever now
08:30.30nevcairielyou can kite them in circles sure
08:30.32VIadcouple of expansions ago
08:30.36Semlaruh no
08:30.38nevcairielbut not too far away from their home area
08:30.42Semlari could kite shit just fine 6 months ago
08:31.33Semlarthere were occasional mobs that wouldn't let you kite them but not everything
08:31.35VIadfeel free to log the beta, aggro something, keep poking it while you run away from the area in a line
08:32.00VIadyesterday I remember some harpy camp, tried to pull everything in 60 yards range, like 20 mobs
08:32.18VIadgot only half, the rest started to flee. i was spamming my aoe and ranged attacks to keep them interested, but nope :<
08:32.31VIadtbh the harpies were a bit too keen on leashing back home
08:32.52VIadmaybe the mob has a hidden template how to behave
08:32.54VIadleashing wise
08:33.06VIadthough I am pretty sure all should leash back home at some point
08:33.14VIadespecially world bosses
08:33.48VIadthough what is really annoying is leashing in a instance
08:33.50Semlarhell i have a video from WoD beta where i just kite a rare for 5 minutes
08:33.50VIadI mean, why?
08:34.41VIadI prefered dungeons where mobs never leashed so I could aoe them in the end ;d
08:34.55VIadimagine brd without leashing
08:34.57VIadthe dream
08:35.12VIadjust go pull everything, would be so sweet
08:37.37karl_w_whttp://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6V63G77142
08:37.41karl_w_w$99,999
08:38.15VIadI'd pay 100k for that
08:41.35VIadkarl_w_w: what is the time for you in australia?
08:42.16karl_w_whttps://www.google.com/search?q=australia+time
08:43.11VIadit's weird. I always find you on chat as if you are in gmt+1 :p
08:45.20karl_w_wnot everybody has the sort of job where you can sit on IRC all day :P
08:46.16Semlari just kited something into another zone, so if they did anything to leash mobs it's not some global change
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10:25.26VIadSemlar: it's weird. might be mob related.
10:25.35karl_w_wmobs VIad
10:25.58VIaddon't mob me like that
10:26.30karl_w_wmobs VIad differently
10:28.36VIadwhy do we call them mobs, what is mobs?
10:28.46VIadnpcs, creatures, makes sense
10:29.38karl_w_wmobsters obviously
10:37.45Kesavamobile objects
10:38.00Kesavait's an old term
10:39.48karl_w_wobjects
10:40.56VIadmobile objects :d
10:41.17VIadso technically bosses that don't move around are imob
10:41.35Kesavasure
10:46.27Semlarapple would probably sue
10:57.26Gnarfozthat'd be iMob
10:57.50VIaddo they have a copyright on ^i.+$ ?
10:58.11Gnarfozconsidering that's not how that works, no.
10:58.18VIadso imob is fine :p
11:02.33karl_w_wmy achievement for the day: https://i.imgur.com/kdIDYo1.png
11:03.05karl_w_wthat took like 2+ hours!
11:03.23Semlargratz
11:08.02VIadI can't even make out what it is - appears final fantasy like
11:08.28nevcairielwell the characters are made up of like 20 pixels each
11:08.33nevcairielso .. a 90s game?
11:09.07karl_w_wfinal fantasy record keeper
11:09.29karl_w_wit has basically all the final fantasy characters, done in the classic style
11:10.10Gnarfozpixels? http://i.imgur.com/wamXK7c.gifv pixels!
11:10.27karl_w_wthat is steiner (ffix), ramza (tactics), exdeath (v), vivi (ix) and garnet (ix) killing kuja from ffix
11:12.01Semlari recognize the wizard
11:13.26karl_w_whttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vlyVNwfY42Y/Vcu705Zfi0I/AAAAAAAANQA/NcoY1NZi9wA/s2048-Ic42/Wallpaper.jpg
11:13.32karl_w_wgives a better impression of them
11:13.38Semlaris that link
11:13.42karl_w_wI love some of the character design actually
11:15.00Semlaroh, it's not even the right mage
11:15.13Semlarhow silly of me
11:15.50Semlarall these black mages look the same to me
11:15.57nevcairielracist
11:16.02Semlar:(
11:16.06karl_w_w3 of them do
11:16.14karl_w_wmany of them are black mages but don't look like it
11:16.55Semlarwhat's charizard doing on here
11:17.51karl_w_wwhich one is that? :P
11:17.59Semlarred xiii
11:18.09Semlarwhich i'm pretty sure isn't even a real name
11:18.26Semlarthat's just a color and a number
11:18.32karl_w_wyou'll get VII fans after you if you say that too loudly :P
11:18.55nevcairieli dont even like FF at all, there!
11:19.03Semlari want to be an onion knight
11:20.15Semlarsomeone has to stand up for the vegetables
11:22.23KalrothI voted for noodles
11:23.58GnarfozI don't think I've ever played any FF games
11:27.50Semlari tried to play a final fantasy game once
11:28.12Semlari have no idea which one
11:28.35Semlarbut you basically just walked around like pokemon and took turns hitting each other
12:09.09VIadthere are like 20 ff games out
12:09.18VIadand hundreds of spinoffs
12:10.19Semlarthat doesn't seem very final
12:17.11karl_w_wprobably more like 30 or 40
12:35.08Kesavasquare were going out of business though weren't they
12:35.17Kesavaor is that an urban legend
12:35.22Kesavai can imagine it would be
12:41.56Kesavacan you still re-watch blizzcon 2015?
12:42.12Kesavanot counting torrenting that is
12:42.59FiskerI do not believe so no
12:43.16FiskerAt least the deal was pretty much always "You only have access for like a few months until we shut it down"
12:43.16Kesavabah
12:43.35Kesavai'll have to find another legitimate way to do so then
12:43.37Kesavaner.
12:46.14FiskerI think there is none
12:46.38Kesavai think i know a few completely legitimate ways
12:47.09nevcairielthe only official and legitimate source of the content is gone, so... how? =p
12:47.34Kesavaactually i don't, no one seems to have downloaded/uploaded them
12:47.34Kesavabah
12:49.36Kesavai had an unfortunate bug at the time because i block third party cookies, so i couldn't watch anything
12:49.45Kesavai meant to rewatch them but... didn't
12:50.27GnarfozKesava: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=blizzcon+2015+panel
12:50.38GnarfozI'm sure you tried this...
12:50.48Kesavaoh. no. i was expecting those to be taken down
12:50.55Kesavabecause, you know, youtube.
12:51.29nevcairielassumptions make an ass out of yourself =p
12:51.36Kesavayes
12:52.47GnarfozContent ID is for music
12:52.52Gnarfozif that's what you were thinking of
12:53.19Kesavawell, i would've just expected blizzard to generally dmca them
12:53.52Gnarfozthey're either not assholes enough or haven't gotten around to these
12:54.08Gnarfozif they were even less assholey, they'd just put them on their own channel...
12:54.40Kesavaindeed
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12:57.25Infusso, is there a system to the spell id madness? I have one spell, which apparently has 3 different spell ids. a) the spell book b) the SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS combat log event and c) GetSpellInfo("spellname")
12:57.38Infusand GetSpellCooldown only works with the spell id from c
12:57.52Kesavawhat's the spell?
12:58.03InfusTyphoon
12:58.39nevcairielthe spell book is often wrong on talent spells, thats no news
12:59.28Infus<PROTECTED>
12:59.41nevcairielit happens because under-the-hood there is one spell that tracks the entire talent row
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13:00.50Infusand what's up with the combat log? why is that a 3. spell id?
13:02.22nevcairielthese talent spells are just fucked up, and there is no reliable way to get these ids all lined up
13:03.05Infusokay, that's what I suspected
13:03.43nevcairielthe talent spell is an "alias" spell that then causes the acutal typhoon spell to be cast
13:03.55nevcairieli do not know how to get that relationship cleanly however
13:04.14nevcairielyou can go from a to c though, just call GetSpellInfo
13:04.16Infusright, that makes sense, it's the same spell if regardless of which spell I choose in that row
13:04.20nevcairielb is just magic
13:06.04nevcairielits even worse when spells change depending on your form
13:06.11nevcairiellike wild charge thats a different spell in every form
13:10.49VIadblizzard could apply modifiers to the spell hyperlinks for trackability
13:11.02VIadlike how they modify items, one id, but several versions with different stats and such
13:12.35Infusnevcairiel: thank you, and indeed Wild Charge is even stranger
13:16.55VIadInfus, I recommend looking up wowhead/dbc files
13:17.01VIadand testing
13:17.19VIadthough sad part is sometimes a spell might be a passive in a zone, that procs something
13:17.35VIadif the proc has the cooldown, you might not always have access to get the cooldown info on spells you dont personally know
13:18.12VIadfor example the mage tower in draenor crit buff circle :p
13:23.54Infuswell, I'm mostly interested in spells that players have in their spell book
13:25.15nevcairielwild charge has caused me all sorts of headaches already
13:25.34nevcairieleven more so because its a helpful and harmful spell depending on form
13:25.51nevcairiel(ie. it casts on mobs or players)
13:33.45SemlarInfus: you should be able to just use the spell name\
13:34.13SemlarGetSpellInfo(GetSpellInfo(spellID))
13:35.58Semlarif you're just after the active form of that spell
13:36.15Infuswell, I need the one for wich GetSpellCooldown returns the cooldown
13:37.22SemlarGetSpellCooldown(GetSpellInfo(spellID))?
13:37.35Semlarjust pick a spellID
13:39.05Semlarprobably the one in your spellbook
13:39.23Infusright, the context I have is a bit more complicated
13:39.30Infusbut thanks for the information
13:39.38VIadSemlar: what if the internal names are "Wild Charge" but there are 6 spells with various cooldowns in length?
13:40.11Semlaryour active wild charge spell presumably has one cooldown
13:40.17VIadtbh I recommend making a small framework to track the exact cooldowns, Infus
13:40.51VIadwhen the spells you wish to track goes into cooldown, make your own internal code to track the various spells, and when they will be ready
13:41.38Torhalwildly charges Semlar as an AddOn hoarder.
13:42.29Infuswell, I guess I should explain the context then: So WA has a problem where it takes a good amount of work to set up, one way to make that easier is to "know" "all" spells that the player might want to track the cooldown of
13:43.00Infusso I'm trying to figure out which spells to offer in such a selection
13:44.36Semlarpresumably you aren't going to be offering them spells they don't actually have
13:45.28Semlarbut you want spells that get transformed when they shift or something
13:46.32Infusit's for the cooldown tracking of WA, thus e.g. for Wild Charge, it would be best to only offer one "Wild Charge", and not per stance
13:46.46Infussince the cooldown is shared between them anyway
13:47.22Semlarso why can't you use the base spell from the spellbook
13:48.37Infusbecasue for Typhoon, GetSpellCooldown(spell if from spell book) returns the wrong information
13:48.49Infus*spell id from spell book
13:48.57Semlarokay, but i can almost guarantee GetSpellInfo("Typhoon") returns the correct information
13:49.10Infusyes, that does work
13:49.24Semlarthen use GetSpellInfo to get the name from the base spell
13:49.50Semlarfeed the name to GetSpellCooldown
13:50.04Infusright, I'm doing that now, seems to work
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15:27.39VIadif the api is limited, and you want a manifest of sorts, isnt scanning and making sense of the spell.dbc the way to go?
15:49.28VIadSemlar: make a library that makes it possible to enumerate the blobs on the minimap :<
15:49.46VIadmove minimap under mouse and scan tooltips and store tooltip and coordinates :d
15:49.56Semlarwhat blobs
15:50.07Semlarquest areas?
15:50.07VIadthe icons
15:50.10VIadno  sorry
15:50.11VIadmeant icons
15:50.15VIadwith  ^v arrows
15:50.21VIadand their names
15:50.42VIadtbh I'd like a small list near the minimap to list the names of the icons when hunting for rares or what not :d
15:51.06Semlarconveniently rares that appear on the map can be queried for
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16:06.29VIadwhat about treasures, taxipaths?
16:09.10Semlartaxi nodes are on the map
16:09.30Semlartreasures like the ones in the timeless isle work the same way as rares
16:09.59karl_w_whttps://i.imgur.com/IgCF6vI.jpg
16:10.25Semlari get it because it's ram
16:10.58karl_w_wit's dimm funny
16:11.19Semlarso dimm
16:11.50Semlarit looks weird
16:12.20Semlartoo skinny
16:12.36Semlarwhat kind of ram is that
16:12.49karl_w_wprobs ddr4
16:13.02Semlarbut it's like half the height of a normal ram stick
16:13.14karl_w_wcant be its 1.5v
16:13.16Semlardo they make lower profile ram for some reason
16:13.23karl_w_wi believe so
16:13.50PredicateYeah, that is a thing
16:14.32karl_w_whttp://www.mini-box.com/Kingston-4GB-240-Pin-DDR3-KVR1333D3N9-4G
16:15.02Semlari don't like it, take it away
16:15.44PredicateWell, internet, the Semlar has spoken. Low profile RAM must cease to exist.
16:15.57nevcairielOr instead, we make all ram low profile
16:16.05nevcairielyou know, this is the internet
16:17.07karl_w_weverybody will suddenly realise non-low profile ram was a waste of perfectly good PCB
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16:17.43Semlarfrom the look of it the actual chips don't take up a whole lot of space
16:18.38karl_w_wSemlar I'm hungry
16:18.43Semlarbut i just ate
16:18.52karl_w_wSemlarrrr make me a sam witch
16:19.03Semlarhow about potato salad
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16:20.19karl_w_wpotato salad sam witch? interesting
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16:23.51Semlarpo tay to
16:24.10mckenziemcshocks Semlar with an array of potato cells.
16:24.35VIadSemlar: innkeepers? :<
16:25.14Semlaris that something you really need your minimap scanning for
16:25.27PredicateVIad: it kind of sounds like you're trying to invent a problem for Semlar to solve
16:26.14Semlarto be fair i solved it like 3 years ago http://i.imgur.com/T0nM1hA.jpg
16:26.16VIadnah, heh as managed to scan the minimap icons
16:26.47PredicateRight, but why bother if it's not useful?
16:26.59Semlaryou lose your minimap doing this
16:27.14Semlarand also can't really click on anything unless you do some hackery
16:32.42Semlarplus it can't point to things, just tell you that something is on the minimap somewhere
16:49.59VIadcan you CreateFrame("Minimap")?
16:50.05VIadits so weird its a widget we can create :p
16:50.37VIadyou can use that to scan, Semlar
16:50.41VIada new created minimap :d
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16:53.24PredicateVIad: only one minimap widget works at a time.
16:53.28VIadnope
16:53.31VIadboth work in legion :o
16:53.41VIadnot independently though, like if  you zoom in one, both seem to zoom
16:53.49VIadbut both show icons
16:53.52VIadand texture
16:54.00PredicateRight. They're basically just copies of each other.
16:54.03VIadyes
16:54.10VIadyou can then use the copy to scan what is on it :p
16:54.19VIadby moving it under the mouse while invisible
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17:29.42VIadSemlar: the only issue is frames dont draw that often so can't scan per pixel within reasonable time and not interrupt the player
17:29.55VIadmore likely to use it as a afk camp thing of sorts tbh
17:34.21pompy1small queue but login servers full lol?
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17:47.23Neffiare you OK, purl?
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18:35.31p3limAccording to RuneFrame.lua, it's possible to have 7 runes as a DK, but I can't find any talent or anything that adds the 7th
18:38.34Irielp3lim: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20042984905
18:38.45Irielp3lim: Only regeneration 3 runes at a time, which makes the Runic Longevity (You can have a 7th rune) talent really awkward,
18:39.32Irielp3lim: http://wow.gamepedia.com/Runic_Longevity
18:39.52p3limRight, it's been replaced already :)
18:39.56p3limThanks Iriel
18:40.09p3limApparently they got Rune Tap back
18:42.41IrielThat sort of stuff must suck for the UI team -- throw in tons of effort to extend something just to find it discarded
18:43.41VIadflorida man strikes again
18:44.27p3limIriel: Depends on how much it adds to the C side, looks like they added partial support for runes to UnitPower and UnitPowerMax too
18:48.16p3limThe Lua side changes for handling that is minor
18:48.31p3limBut I get what you mean tho
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18:50.43VIadrunes now are perfectly fine to fit in the unitpower api imo :p
18:51.01VIadcombopoints could be there too, if it isnt already
18:57.36VIadoh jesus, the warden isle in legion is like, error prone to the max
18:58.29VIadisle of the watchers*
18:59.13VIadplz blz http://ss.bool.no/capture_1464634749.png
19:01.55VIadI see others doing the quest
19:01.58VIadso no clue why me :<
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19:02.10VIadonly place Ive had errors like this
19:08.38zenzelezzhm, Wargaming preparing their football even in a few weeks. Guess the world cup (or is it Euro this time?) is coming
19:11.06zenzelezz*event
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19:52.42Nosheizenzelezz: no world cup this year, olympics
19:56.02zenzelezzNoshei: ah, that's right... summer olympics and Euro cup same years; winter olympics and world cup on same
20:17.45p3limVIad: combo points have been there for some time, but doesn't work correctly for vehicles
20:17.57VIadah neat.
20:18.09VIadI thought like runes, that they had their own api, and not unitpower :p
20:21.41nebulathing GetComboPoints("vehicle", "target") should still work
20:21.43nebulathink*
20:22.29nebula(as well as with "player")
20:25.26Stanzillayes it does
20:25.28Stanzillaonly the event isgone
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21:19.44VIadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS4SfCOFWxw
21:20.50nevcairiel"the event" is just folded into unit power now
21:29.30Arrow|work`why the hell isnt chromium available in raspbian
21:33.30mckenziemcbecause it's a toxic metal?
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21:40.18VIadmckenziemc: toxic can't melt steel beams
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21:53.17mckenziemcexposes VIad to powdered hexavalent chromium.
21:54.02VIadparries using Semlar.
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21:54.47mckenziemcgood, now you've both inhaled some
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23:52.31sylvanaarThe new layouts in irccloud are kinda cool

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