| 00:00.17 | Munk | My bindings have them, but as per usual I'm preparing for worst case scenario |
| 00:02.11 | Munk | I'm allowing users to bind arbitrary buttons on the interface in case the normal bindings don't cover their needs, in which case there won't be a binding string for that particular button. |
| 00:02.26 | foxlit | (also, http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1 is ~1.5 screens; you should read it and be good with pattern matching.) |
| 00:02.27 | Munk | I need to format the tooltip line to remove the click text |
| 00:03.28 | Semlar | i don't know foxlit, pattern matching kind of requires a certain way of thinking, even if you know the syntax |
| 00:03.49 | Amarande | Munk: the less content you use up in beta, the more stuff is still shiny and new for live :) |
| 00:04.02 | Munk | It's fairly easy to match stuff imo, but replacing and splitting is another ball game |
| 00:04.06 | Semlar | you don't really get "good" at it without running into some pitfalls |
| 00:04.07 | Amarande | say, does legion have any alternative choices during leveling or is it one fixed zone progression path? |
| 00:04.20 | Munk | Amarande: True! |
| 00:04.33 | kd3 | all leveling zones scale. pick whichever zone you want to do in any order |
| 00:04.48 | foxlit | There's some reasonable branching within zones as well. |
| 00:04.52 | Munk | And level with your friends at other levels, yay |
| 00:05.04 | Amarande | Munk: I've actually been an advocate of *less* beta for WoW, because I tend to feel it contributes to content getting used up so quickly, resulting in the big long boredom phase at the end of each expansion |
| 00:05.08 | foxlit | It's a bit of a mess without most of the cutscenes. |
| 00:05.38 | Amarande | i.e., the initial release content has already been experienced by too many serious players during beta, so they just fly through it then complain to Blizzard there's nothing to do, so the content patches have to come out sooner |
| 00:05.54 | Munk | Amarande: I could do without all the sarcasm in trade about the state of certain specs. ;) |
| 00:06.13 | kd3 | serious players are going to get through leveling in days to a week regardless of beta |
| 00:06.28 | Amarande | kd3: I mean, without beta, they would still have to learn the raids post-release |
| 00:06.42 | Amarande | whereas with beta a lot of strats are probably hashed out and practised before the content's even officially out |
| 00:06.55 | foxlit | it doesn't really matter. |
| 00:07.04 | kd3 | so mythic lasts 2 weeks instead of 1? |
| 00:07.06 | kd3 | not going to help |
| 00:07.12 | foxlit | The beta includes the *introductory* raid tier. |
| 00:07.14 | Munk | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ragnaros/Munk/achievement#81:a463 :) |
| 00:07.27 | Amarande | kd3: wow, is it getting that bad lately? |
| 00:07.30 | foxlit | It's not going to be technically challenging to the point of "we need a bazillion pulls to figure out what to do!" |
| 00:08.01 | Amarande | back in wrath it took a couple months to get the whole instance down pat, then there was heroic strategies to get coordinated |
| 00:08.25 | Amarande | though that was icecrown citadel, and raid instances have largely been considerably smaller since |
| 00:09.23 | Amarande | I'm not even sure I can think of any raids at all since ICC that have that many bosses, except maybe Siege of Orgrimmar? |
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| 00:10.06 | Predicate | What? HFC has more bosses than ICC... |
| 00:10.12 | Amarande | ah |
| 00:10.16 | Amarande | I haven't really been around for much of WoD |
| 00:11.07 | Amarande | it could also be that mythic raiders have gone back to being the sort to ask members to have several nights a week of raid availability |
| 00:11.18 | Amarande | whereas in ICC we pretty much did one night a week + one extra night for continuation as needed |
| 00:11.56 | Amarande | I know back in BC practically every guild I looked into seemed to want you to have a steady 4-5 night schedule |
| 00:13.41 | Munk | foxlit: " ([^:]+" with gsub makes "CLICK TestButton:LeftButton" -> "CLICK:LeftButton". looking for this pattern: "CLICK TestButton:LeftButton" -> "TestButton" |
| 00:13.59 | foxlit | Munk: no, you missed a space. |
| 00:14.12 | Semlar | no it's because he's using gsub instead of match |
| 00:14.37 | Semlar | he's just replacing the part he wants |
| 00:15.11 | foxlit | ... that requires inventing a second argument to gsub to even run. |
| 00:15.30 | Semlar | i assume he's replacing that pattern with '' |
| 00:15.36 | Munk | yep |
| 00:15.45 | foxlit | well, don't do that, it's silly :) |
| 00:15.46 | foxlit | ("CLICK TestButton:LeftButton"):match(" ([^:]+)") == "TestButton" |
| 00:15.51 | Munk | Can this even be done in one go or should I just run it twice |
| 00:16.02 | Semlar | you should be using match since that's what you asked about |
| 00:16.31 | Munk | You're very right about that. |
| 00:16.36 | Guill | function findStuff(str) return "TestButton" end |
| 00:16.36 | Semlar | it's capturing the pattern in parentheses and returning that |
| 00:16.56 | Semlar | if you use gsub it's going to look for that pattern and replace it |
| 00:17.04 | Munk | Thanks Guill :) |
| 00:17.12 | Guill | <3 |
| 00:17.24 | Semlar | you could invert the pattern and use gsub but i don't know why you'd do that |
| 00:17.37 | foxlit | At one point, I wanted to steal the party frame design from SAO. |
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| 00:18.22 | Semlar | i've thought about making a perspective based design for nameplates |
| 00:18.28 | foxlit | ... that went horribly, as the animators cheat by changing UI colors to contrast properly against the world background. |
| 00:18.29 | Semlar | make them seem more 3d |
| 00:18.51 | Munk | Can gsub even be used to split a string from the middle if the pattern isn't the same on both sides of it |
| 00:19.07 | Semlar | gsub is for replacing strings |
| 00:19.29 | Semlar | there's actually a strsplit function built into wow but you can make one with gmatch |
| 00:19.32 | Guill | Munk: Technically yes, but you probably don't want to. string.gsub("CLICK TestButton:LeftButton", "(.* ([^:]+).*)", "%2") |
| 00:19.36 | foxlit | In wow, the best I could do was make the UI backgrounds a kind of semitransparent grey, and hope that nobody was looking at anything that matched their luminosity. |
| 00:20.25 | Guill | Actually, I probably didn't even need the outer capture |
| 00:21.18 | foxlit | %0 is a thing. |
| 00:21.46 | Guill | Yeah, but not what you'd want to use if you're trying to remove a piece of the string |
| 00:22.05 | Guill | For some reason I was thinking gsub replaced the first capture which is totally wrong |
| 00:24.11 | Munk | https://i.gyazo.com/ddea8edddb2a954e29d7e99f4b3ee598.png Seems to work just fine. |
| 00:25.28 | Kesava | Guill fix cooldown frames! |
| 00:27.09 | Guill | Kesava: Fiiiine |
| 00:27.18 | Kesava | yay |
| 00:28.05 | Guill | Kesava: Should be fixed in the next build. If it isn't, just know that I'm not the one who fixed it, so it's not my fault. |
| 00:28.19 | Guill | If it is, you can thank me for fixing it! |
| 00:28.20 | foxlit | Doesn't that make it doubly your fault? :) |
| 00:28.27 | Kesava | i will do that :D |
| 00:28.32 | foxlit | Not only is it not fixed, but *you* didn't fix it. |
| 00:29.48 | Munk | Is Blizzard_NamePlates always loaded on login? |
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| 00:30.44 | foxlit | Yes, except when it isn't. |
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| 00:34.56 | Semlar | you can turn it off if that's what you're asking |
| 00:35.55 | Munk | I'm asking whether I can assume it's loaded instead of checking if it is |
| 00:36.11 | Semlar | you can't assume it's loaded, no |
| 00:36.26 | Semlar | even if it was always loaded before your addon, people can turn it off |
| 00:36.48 | Semlar | i'm turning it off for my nameplate addon |
| 00:40.12 | Kesava | .. how do you turn it off? |
| 00:40.22 | Kesava | i didn't know you could turn off the blizzardons |
| 00:40.25 | Munk | DisableAddOn("Blizzard_NamePlates") ReloadUI() ? |
| 00:41.01 | Semlar | you can't call ReloadUI without a hardware event so |
| 00:41.15 | Semlar | you can disable the addon but it won't be disabled until they reload |
| 00:41.37 | Neffi | no Semlar |
| 00:41.39 | Semlar | also they have no way of turning it back on if they disable your addon so that's always funny |
| 00:41.45 | Munk | :p |
| 00:41.46 | Kesava | yeah i thought that might happen |
| 00:42.01 | Kesava | i think i'll skip that then since.. hiding the .UnitFrame gets rid of the lag anyway |
| 00:42.09 | Semlar | as seen in such threads as "where are my raid frames" after disabling elvui |
| 00:42.38 | Munk | I've had a ton of compatibility issues with ElvUI. Think I've solved most of them. |
| 00:43.46 | Kesava | they're -still- restarting the realms. wtf blizz. |
| 00:44.04 | Kesava | oh they just came back up. yay. |
| 00:44.30 | Munk | I heard the beta realms run on a Wang 2200 |
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| 00:44.57 | Semlar | https://gfycat.com/SelfassuredEthicalLarva |
| 00:44.57 | Gnarfoz | hmmm, dat movie. |
| 00:45.20 | Munk | Cute. |
| 00:45.35 | Kesava | does that perchance break if you're in combat |
| 00:45.39 | Semlar | nope |
| 00:45.49 | Kesava | how you do dis |
| 00:45.51 | Predicate | Moooooom, Semlar's hacking again |
| 00:45.53 | Semlar | hax |
| 00:46.27 | Neffi | plz Semlar |
| 00:46.32 | Semlar | :( |
| 00:46.49 | Semlar | y u do dis neffi |
| 00:46.56 | Neffi | :/ |
| 00:47.42 | Semlar | i could do something like add a button to the nameplate to use a quest item on the unit or cast a spell |
| 00:48.58 | Semlar | taunt or something |
| 00:49.37 | Neffi | next up: nameplates have been patched out |
| 00:49.42 | foxlit | I hear people already have action bars and possibly even mouseover macros. |
| 00:49.43 | Semlar | :O |
| 00:50.03 | Semlar | people also like being able to click on things foxlit |
| 00:50.30 | foxlit | on things like action bars? |
| 00:51.10 | Munk | We don't need action bars anymore because of pruning *whines on forums* |
| 00:51.33 | Kesava | ikr there may as well just be 2 buttons |
| 00:51.44 | Kesava | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.53 | Semlar | barrage and.. |
| 00:52.00 | Munk | "Logout" and "Exit Game" are enough buttons for me |
| 00:52.01 | Semlar | another button for barrage? |
| 00:52.17 | foxlit | up your game, Semlar |
| 00:52.19 | Semlar | ah no, feign death |
| 00:52.33 | foxlit | need to at least misdirect to a healer |
| 00:53.18 | Munk | Don't you all remember the stellar days of BC when the game was amazing? Warlocks used so many spells and they were all called Shadowbolt |
| 00:53.45 | foxlit | lies |
| 00:53.57 | foxlit | at least one of them was called summon |
| 00:54.06 | Stanzilla | doom every minute was *the* shit |
| 00:54.10 | Semlar | i remember one warlock taking on me and my friend at the same time because of god damn siphon life and life steal |
| 00:54.28 | Semlar | no soul link |
| 00:54.50 | Semlar | sl/sl |
| 00:55.23 | Munk | I used a weird hybrid spec to level up in WotLK that had zero burst and maximum defense. Got me to level 80 quick enough |
| 00:55.40 | Munk | The old talent trees were interesting and diverse, but they must have been terribly complicated to balance |
| 00:55.48 | Semlar | the more target a warlock had the harder it was to kill them because he just got more healing from the extra dots |
| 01:13.24 | nimhfree | is there a way to get target of target to appear on the default Blizzard templates (not the TargetFrame) |
| 01:16.16 | Gnarfoz | it's an UI option, IIRC |
| 01:16.38 | Gnarfoz | indeed, under Combat |
| 01:31.35 | nimhfree | that only shows it on TargetFrame |
| 01:31.46 | nimhfree | I want it on the frames above their heads |
| 01:34.04 | Guill | You would still need an AddOn, but there's no reason you couldn't have a target-of-target that looks just like the target frame. |
| 01:36.51 | Gnarfoz | you said "templates" so... yeah, I wasn't sure what you meant |
| 01:39.09 | nimhfree | ok, I just wanted to make sure it did not already exist. |
| 01:50.52 | Semlar | you mean nameplates |
| 02:01.24 | Semlar | here guill https://gfycat.com/UnpleasantHatefulHake |
| 02:01.49 | kd3 | ! |
| 02:02.18 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: repost! |
| 02:02.25 | Semlar | NOT FOR YOU |
| 02:02.34 | Gnarfoz | no, FOR AZEROTH |
| 02:02.40 | Gnarfoz | wait |
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| 03:28.55 | mckenziemc | successfully hugs Cairenn. |
| 03:40.34 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker and mckenziemc |
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| 04:20.30 | Semlar | is there not a secure action button equivalent of actually right clicking on a unit |
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| 04:23.17 | Semlar | as far as i can tell, right clicking on unit frames is only designed to display a menu |
| 04:23.35 | Semlar | and i don't see anything equivalent to "interact with target" for unit buttons |
| 04:25.56 | Semlar | i guess i could macro /startattack into it or something |
| 04:26.05 | Semlar | that's.. close |
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| 04:30.20 | Parnic | blizzard's runeframe source shows a possible 7th rune for death knights. anyone know how to get the 7th rune? |
| 04:30.31 | Fisker | Hi again Parnic |
| 04:30.38 | Parnic | oh fisker |
| 04:30.51 | Fisker | Oh? |
| 04:31.40 | Parnic | are we b.net friends? |
| 04:32.40 | Fisker | Don't know |
| 04:32.45 | Fisker | You're Americas anyway |
| 04:33.41 | Fisker | Why? |
| 04:33.59 | Fisker | You wanna go to Blizzcon after all? |
| 04:34.01 | Parnic | just curious |
| 04:34.09 | Parnic | no, i don't |
| 04:34.19 | Fisker | Aw |
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| 04:41.07 | mckenziemc | ~ping |
| 04:41.07 | purl | ~pong |
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| 05:03.32 | Parnic | sigh. they introduced Insanity for priests but still kept mana around...except UnitPowerType now returns Insanity which means a whole new bar has to be created for mana. just lovely. |
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| 06:24.26 | Semlar | ah i thought of a way to mimic normal right click behavior on unit frames |
| 06:24.54 | Semlar | all i have to do is potentially break the mouse if i don't handle this right |
| 06:29.45 | Semlar | eh what are the odds OnLeave doesn't fire under certain circumstances |
| 06:34.10 | Semlar | alright it doesn't fire when the frame is hidden |
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| 06:39.12 | Torhal | Semlars Semlar with a mushroom army. |
| 06:42.39 | nevcairiel | Parnic: a bunch of classes work that way, they have a primary power type to do dps and whatnot, and mana for utility spells |
| 06:47.13 | Parnic | a bunch? i only knew about druids before 7.0 |
| 06:47.16 | Parnic | and i guess maybe monks? |
| 06:48.05 | nevcairiel | shamans do that in 7.0 as well |
| 06:48.11 | Parnic | good to know |
| 06:50.31 | Semlar | sigh, "interactmouseover" doesn't work on unit frames if it's bound to the mouse because mouse clicks are intercepted by frames |
| 06:51.21 | Semlar | you can bind it to a key and interact with a unit frame, but not the mouse |
| 06:51.55 | Semlar | because the frame intercepts the mouse click or something |
| 06:52.24 | Semlar | Guill why you do dis |
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| 07:32.24 | VIad | fewyn: I tried playing it on pc with a controller, it was horrible :( |
| 07:32.45 | VIad | but I am a pc guy and fps work best with mouse for me |
| 07:58.05 | VIad | Semlar: hey, I got a couple of math lines that are odd |
| 07:58.10 | VIad | want to take a look? |
| 07:58.20 | Semlar | i don't know any math |
| 08:02.41 | VIad | (math.atan2(deltaY, deltaX) + math.pi) - GetPlayerFacing() - math.pi |
| 08:02.46 | VIad | so I have that piece of shit |
| 08:03.03 | VIad | local angle = math.atan2(deltaY, deltaX) + math.pi |
| 08:03.10 | VIad | local target = angle - GetPlayerFacing() - math.pi |
| 08:03.14 | VIad | for readability |
| 08:03.23 | VIad | see the trailing +- math.pi ? |
| 08:03.34 | VIad | so I use it atm to flip the numbers from negative to positive ranges |
| 08:03.44 | VIad | otherwise it inverts the arrow I draw later :p |
| 08:11.09 | Semlar | what's the question |
| 08:12.33 | nevcairiel | if oyu use +pi-pi, you can just remove both =p |
| 08:12.50 | nevcairiel | unless you use angle for something else |
| 08:15.13 | nevcairiel | you may need to normalize the angle, ie. this is what my code does (which is in turn used by tomtom for the arrow), http://pastebin.com/EJZJ457q |
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| 08:21.29 | VIad | if I remove both then I get some wrong values, and its odd |
| 08:21.56 | VIad | but with it, it works fine in both hall of valor and the DH class area, only places I tested so far :p |
| 08:22.20 | nevcairiel | that violates any logic |
| 08:23.09 | VIad | when I am home later, I can make a testable snippet you can test on the beta as well |
| 08:23.22 | nevcairiel | why would i bother, i have a working arrow implementation :) |
| 08:25.17 | VIad | best case it just does what your snippet does, minus the ifelse logic |
| 08:25.47 | VIad | going to test later, also with your snippet and see what I get |
| 08:33.12 | VIad | Semlar: did you find out a way to calculate the camera angle? |
| 08:34.00 | Semlar | i don't want to calculate the camera angle |
| 08:34.18 | nevcairiel | they intentionally took out the camera angle in wrath |
| 08:34.33 | Semlar | not much point trying to do it again |
| 08:34.39 | VIad | you calculated the distance between nameplate and camera? |
| 08:36.47 | VIad | like how the player nameplate moves away from the middle and more to the bottom when you zoom in, it would be nice to use that on other elements to clear the way and not overlap the player model :) |
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| 09:44.15 | karl_w_w | sweeet, just got charged $900 australia |
| 09:44.18 | karl_w_w | n |
| 10:00.27 | VIad | what for, karl_w_w? being australian? |
| 10:00.40 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 10:01.00 | VIad | jesus |
| 10:01.02 | karl_w_w | for being in australia and having an oculus rift preorder |
| 10:01.09 | VIad | that vat |
| 10:01.40 | VIad | you realize that you can buy like, GTX1080 with that money? :p |
| 10:03.15 | VIad | I didn't realize how varied music avenged sevenfold made |
| 10:03.36 | VIad | atm listening to to a game soundtrack that is definetly not rock :p |
| 10:03.41 | VIad | (playlist on google play) |
| 10:14.09 | karl_w_w | well, that cost being paid means I can now focus on replacing my phone :P |
| 10:28.16 | harl | there should be an option to exclude players from the auto invite feature who are not at least in the same zone with me.. |
| 10:28.25 | VIad | harl: NO |
| 10:28.41 | VIad | I need the kazzak groups to get invited and phased to their realm, to check for rare spawns :) |
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| 10:28.54 | VIad | like darkmoon rabbit :p |
| 10:29.04 | harl | i don't care about your kazzak |
| 10:29.17 | VIad | thats just the groups I queue for to get phased |
| 10:29.51 | VIad | you are talking about the group finder right? |
| 10:29.59 | VIad | if you check autoinvite it just accepts anyone that signs up |
| 10:30.06 | harl | i don't want my question / garrison only groups to be cluttered with people who shouldn't even be in it in the first place.. there are plenty of other groups they can reuse and abuse to realm hop |
| 10:30.16 | harl | questing |
| 10:30.45 | VIad | apart of the custom groups, I agree there should be some constraints |
| 10:31.09 | harl | i said "option" |
| 10:31.09 | VIad | if you have a questing group made it would be nice it didnt let people outside of the zone sign up :p |
| 10:31.16 | VIad | sure |
| 10:31.35 | VIad | but doesnt seem like legion changed the group finder |
| 10:31.40 | VIad | so probably no new features |
| 10:31.48 | VIad | like the AH interface :p |
| 10:31.48 | harl | but but but |
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| 10:55.12 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3tsyP5UAPo |
| 10:55.18 | karl_w_w | don't cross tall jan |
| 10:56.54 | Yoshimo | does anyone know which achievement in legion unlocks dungeons? I can't queue for a specific nor for a random legion dungeon with level 103. It shows a lock symbol which says "you don't have the necessary achievement yet" |
| 11:01.54 | Yoshimo | Vlad i would extend the group finder with the ability to explicitly link the quest that i need help with instead of having to write it as custom text, so the system can check if there are other on that quest that would be able to help |
| 11:07.14 | nevcairiel | random normal dungeons should work as soon as you unlock your artifact |
| 11:07.44 | nevcairiel | at least the 4 leveling dungeons |
| 11:07.52 | nevcairiel | two lvl 110 dungeon require an unlock |
| 11:13.34 | Yoshimo | so it might be the artifact ? Yea that chain was bugged on this character |
| 11:15.46 | VIad | I think there are quests |
| 11:16.04 | VIad | but I am sure I have issues with completing all the chains on beta, so thats probably why I too can't do some of them :p |
| 11:16.14 | VIad | had to level like 4 levels by grind/dungeons |
| 11:19.48 | VIad | this is why I worry about the game, under 3 months to release, still a lot of quest chains buggy, not fully tuned whatnot, seen a lot of buggy things during the beta. we'll see though how it is during the next two months. |
| 11:20.04 | VIad | unsure how far their internal build is |
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| 11:23.46 | nevcairiel | if you leveled during the phasing troubles, that probably caused the majority of your issues |
| 11:23.52 | nevcairiel | outside of phasing most things worked quite nice |
| 11:25.23 | Yoshimo | yea dalaran was unusable for a while which made leveling a bit challenging without access to your class hall |
| 11:25.52 | Yoshimo | but trying to break stuff is fun, like leveling in draenor without finishing the garrison ;) |
| 11:26.04 | nevcairiel | I dont remember a level up quest that was flat out entirely broken |
| 11:26.15 | nevcairiel | some kill boss mob quests had a way too long respawn or something |
| 11:26.29 | nevcairiel | and stuff like that |
| 11:26.36 | nevcairiel | but nothing that would road block a zone |
| 11:27.17 | foxlit | realistically, if this thing went live tomorrow, they could get away with flagging a handful of quests to auto-complete on accept. |
| 11:27.47 | nevcairiel | some world quests are a bit more broken, but reporting them gets them fixed, so go test and report |
| 11:29.32 | Yoshimo | i had a couple of issues with spawns and evades during the solo scenarios that bring you to the new zones and a few critters with almost infinite health, but leveling looks rather fine |
| 11:30.06 | nevcairiel | not infinite health, just 9 quadrillion |
| 11:31.50 | Yoshimo | i said almost ;) |
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| 11:50.12 | VIad | kind of shame, they did reset all characters, then I started to level too early appartently, so now probably bugged somewhere, I guess time to level the second DH :p |
| 12:00.45 | Yoshimo | i feel leveling as a tank more fun, the dps spec for a dh doesn't have a fluid rotation . i think it feels too slow to build up enough rage |
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| 12:06.15 | VIad | I only play tank, so yeah, leveling havoc |
| 12:06.23 | VIad | forgot the spec name :p |
| 12:06.55 | VIad | they purge blood in a way I didn't find that enjoyful compared to the D |
| 12:07.18 | VIad | DH* like I will miss magic shield since it makes you immune to dots, and the grip (though it had a long CD now) |
| 12:07.41 | VIad | aside of that I find the DH more mobile and flexible, double jump is insane utility movement |
| 12:08.23 | VIad | only issue I've had with the DH is a bit tricky to aggro mobs if you need aoe, immolation aura works but if you need something more, and immolation aura is on cooldown, like only thing you have is get enough pain to use your aoe cleave :p |
| 12:08.30 | VIad | but that can take some time, thats not good :< |
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| 12:12.41 | karl_w_w | what's that word that blizzard spent like a decade trying to avoid doing to wow classes |
| 12:12.55 | karl_w_w | means making them all very similar |
| 12:13.17 | karl_w_w | homogenize |
| 12:17.26 | Yoshimo | i also are trying to avoid any changes to the ui that would make certain addons like auctioneer or tsm smaller in size unfortunately |
| 12:27.21 | Fisker | tacklehugs Lopeppeppy |
| 12:30.41 | VIad | I think the DH contains some of the tools that were purged from other tanks if you ask me :p |
| 12:30.47 | VIad | with a twist |
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| 12:43.03 | karl_w_w | old echo of medivh deck is amazing for this brawl |
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| 12:48.18 | VIad | avenged sevenfold, never heard a metal band play so varied music :p |
| 12:48.30 | VIad | I like them |
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| 13:11.44 | Lopeppeppy | My kingdom for a login server... |
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| 13:19.47 | karl_w_w | here you go Lopeppeppy: https://myspace.com/signin |
| 13:20.21 | Lopeppeppy | If it works, I am kidnapping it. |
| 13:21.52 | karl_w_w | I tried to come up with some kind of myspace grooming joke but I can't do it |
| 13:46.37 | VIad | my space? is that related to SJW/feminism? |
| 13:46.43 | VIad | personal space and what not |
| 13:47.36 | Simca | I assume you are joking |
| 13:49.25 | Gnarfoz | that is almost always the wrong assumption with him |
| 13:49.33 | Gnarfoz | fewyn: https://www.wowthing.org/u/Kebabfarfar/#overview altmania |
| 13:54.26 | VIad | yes Simca, it was a joke |
| 13:54.44 | VIad | and a poke at what ever group was complaining about men not giving them enough personal space |
| 13:55.18 | Gnarfoz | stop mansplaining your jokes |
| 13:56.03 | VIad | sorry for being born an entitled white male |
| 13:56.34 | Gnarfoz | are you fucking sorry?! |
| 13:56.46 | VIad | hits self with whip. |
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| 15:00.39 | Infus | Guill: I was told, it might help if I pester you about this http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17611871083 |
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| 15:11.47 | VIad | Infus: didn't Semlar test and figure out that it's quicker to insert than to set the text? |
| 15:12.00 | VIad | I remember a while ago, did some testing with setting, then with inserting, and inserting won by a mile. |
| 15:12.04 | Infus | VIad: it's the user pasting |
| 15:12.30 | Infus | it's not WA inserting or setting text |
| 15:12.36 | VIad | I get it |
| 15:12.59 | Gnarfoz | btw Guill, the ingame bug report form does include precise player coordinates at report time, I hope? because the help text above it suggests to include "locations"... |
| 15:13.01 | VIad | I think Semlar tested with the events as well, unsure if he managed to override it or not |
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| 15:30.59 | Yoshimo | sometimes i wish there was a z coordinate as well, spent too much time looking for chests that were in caves ;) |
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| 15:42.52 | Stanzilla | Upvote me http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20745024387#1 |
| 15:43.19 | VIad | Yoshimo: the only thing we can do it use the minimap to read the tooltip on the icon, if it points up or down :( |
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| 15:45.19 | Yoshimo | yea i know, hardcoding teleport items and the coordinates involved for a travel guide is also not the nicest thing, especially if they are dynamic like a hearthstone |
| 15:54.59 | Parnic | so does anybody know how to get 7 runes as a DK in beta? the official runeframe source has support for watching for maxpower changes and adjusting with a hardcoded max of 7 but i couldn't find how to trigger it |
| 16:05.06 | Ironii | room for setbonuses? |
| 16:10.40 | Parnic | didn't consider that. could also be an old design that's been cut, i suppose |
| 16:44.23 | VIad | hmm... I wonder if pick pocket can become smarter, since we do it out of combat |
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| 16:53.51 | zork-tdmog | hi |
| 16:58.21 | zork-tdmog | does anyone know if there is a global function for frame fading in Legion that is based on the animation Alpha widget? |
| 17:21.40 | g0urra | loot box rng is gr8 http://puu.sh/p5Ymm/4b49a3bdea.jpg |
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| 17:50.56 | Guill | Does anyone know if there's a way to get the WoWHead Looter AddOn without installing the whole WoWHead client? |
| 17:51.47 | foxlit | steal it from someone who has. |
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| 17:52.08 | gre | hey everyone |
| 17:52.20 | Guill | Infus: Make you a deal. Make shareable WeakAuras scripts use a restricted environment with a whitelist instead of a blacklist and I'll come in on the weekend to fix that. |
| 17:53.26 | gre | i read many forums to know how to move target & focus castbars with a little script (setpoint TargetFrameSpellBar etc) but i can't manage, any idea pls? |
| 17:53.37 | Infus | Guill: there are two problems with that, a) it's a huge amount of work to get a good whitelist and b) there are auras that want to do more |
| 17:53.54 | Infus | thus if we do a whitelist, it would be the default, but can't be the only option |
| 17:54.27 | Infus | (obviously we would then warn even more sternly against auras not using the restricted environment) |
| 17:54.49 | Infus | Guill: so I have thought about doing that, how long is your offer redemeable? |
| 17:54.55 | foxlit | You know, there's already a perfectly good options for distributing untrusted code to clients. |
| 17:55.00 | PhatsoTGT | isnt the problem that Scrolling Text Frames are essentially defined but infinite amounts of FontStrings who all need to be created at once when pasting? |
| 17:55.01 | foxlit | It's called "releasing an addon". |
| 17:55.33 | Guill | Infus: Until a rescind it :P |
| 17:55.55 | Infus | so it's a bait, got that |
| 17:56.03 | PhatsoTGT | and EditBoxes are basically STF's on crack arent they? |
| 17:56.24 | Stanzilla | why is Semlar not here |
| 17:56.27 | Stanzilla | he had a "fix" for it |
| 17:56.47 | Guill | Infus: I've mentioned it before, but it's really something you guys should do. Every time there's another exploit with it, there's a lot of pressure to completely remove access to RunScript and loadstring. I can't push back on that forever. |
| 17:57.54 | Stanzilla | I dont think we'd have a problem if trade and mail api was protected :o |
| 17:58.47 | Infus | buzt yeah, I agree we ought to do that |
| 17:58.51 | Guill | There have been a number of times people have just distributed destructive scripts (e.g. delete items) instead of ones to actually steal stuff :( |
| 17:58.55 | foxlit | If we start protecting every API that can be abused with untrusted code |
| 17:58.56 | Ironii | you can actually use :SetText() to insert a huge string without any delay, the problem comes with user input |
| 17:59.09 | foxlit | We'll eventually have a client that can "run" weakauras and nothing else. |
| 17:59.11 | Guill | For sure, protecting a bunch more API functions could also solve it, but I don't think you guys would like that either :P |
| 17:59.22 | Infus | I might even have time for that next month |
| 18:01.13 | PhatsoTGT | Guill how about you add a tiny little event when hardcoding GameTooltip from C? manipulating it one frame later works but a part of me wants to stick up to the little guy with the toaster who run at 15fps and wonders what the heck his tooltip is doing :D |
| 18:01.31 | PhatsoTGT | i'm sure thats a non-partisan issue |
| 18:01.35 | PhatsoTGT | :D |
| 18:01.37 | Guill | PhatsoTGT: What do you mean "when hardcoding GameTooltip from C"? |
| 18:02.25 | PhatsoTGT | the client overrides SetBackdrop and SetBackdropColor when hovering over GameObjects for example |
| 18:02.44 | PhatsoTGT | basically anything in the rendered world that isnt a unit but drops a tooltip |
| 18:03.21 | Guill | Infus: If you're concerned about limiting users, an option might be to allow scripts to add their own items to the whitelist (that the player has to individually approve). You'd have to proxy objects to make sure they aren't chaining to a non-approved function though. |
| 18:03.27 | PhatsoTGT | right now Tooltip Addons either change setbackdrop onUpdate releasing the seven seals of the apocalypse |
| 18:03.54 | Infus | Guill: users are dumb, and the experience from phone users is that they approve everything... |
| 18:04.26 | PhatsoTGT | or are hooking to SetOwner and changing the backdrop 1 Frame later so low fps players see it get set back to default UI for a short time |
| 18:04.51 | Guill | Infus: Yeah, that's probably true... |
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| 18:05.31 | Stanzilla | whitelist is just soooooooooo much work |
| 18:06.44 | Stanzilla | first finding every api, then the users that complain that X does not work, then the old users that X does not work ANYMORE |
| 18:06.45 | Stanzilla | etc |
| 18:06.49 | Ironii | one thing that could work is list every api on import, make 'dangerous' ones bold/something (and add a note why WA thinks it is dangerous) and ask the user if they are sure they want to import it |
| 18:07.06 | Stanzilla | that is just a blacklist |
| 18:07.08 | Stanzilla | and we already do that |
| 18:07.15 | Infus | and it doesn't work... |
| 18:07.21 | foxlit | spoilers. |
| 18:07.29 | Stanzilla | that's because of how lua in Wow works |
| 18:07.32 | Stanzilla | not because we did it wrong |
| 18:07.44 | Ironii | all your current blacklist does is warn the user the WA contains custom code? |
| 18:07.45 | Guill | PhatsoTGT: I haven't actually tested this, but have you tried calling :Hide in the tooltip's OnTooltipCleared callback and then updating the backdrop in OnShow? |
| 18:07.48 | Ironii | or did i miss something |
| 18:07.54 | Stanzilla | no it blocks execution |
| 18:07.54 | Infus | nope, some api is blocked |
| 18:08.51 | Guill | The issue is just that people keep finding new ways to call those functions (or find other functions that aren't black-listed that should be) |
| 18:09.05 | Ironii | well, anyways, only thing WA currently warns on import is if the aura you are importing contains custom code? |
| 18:09.21 | Infus | yes |
| 18:09.30 | Infus | but that's orthogonal to the blacklist |
| 18:09.33 | Stanzilla | that is way easier to maintain than a whitelist though |
| 18:09.40 | Infus | and there's a code viewer since a few versions |
| 18:10.02 | Stanzilla | and we already only accept import from friends and guild |
| 18:10.16 | Stanzilla | and you can disable aura importing via chat completly |
| 18:10.26 | Guill | What if to import a custom script, the user had to manually type "My gold might get stolen or my items disappear and I'm OK with that." 10 times? |
| 18:10.30 | Infus | group chat works too |
| 18:10.32 | Infus | what I'm planning atm is this: make a robust sandbox so that the majority of custom auras don't need more. Secondly allow users to say certain auras should be unsandboxed. Importing those auras comes with a bigger, fatter, scarier warning and needs to be approved with more steps |
| 18:10.52 | Stanzilla | that is just overhead for no gain |
| 18:10.53 | Infus | as in, obnoxious steps, e.g. item deletion obnoxious |
| 18:11.56 | Ironii | the warning loses its meaning when you see the same warning ~everytime you are importing, if the users sees a list of api calls and a note/something with the dangerous calls, they would most likely think twice before accepting it |
| 18:12.24 | Stanzilla | thats the only part i consider useful |
| 18:12.43 | Ironii | if you think you are importing a aura for buff/debuff tracking and see a warning for trade api, you most likely won't accept it |
| 18:13.31 | Stanzilla | that list of API you want to highlight there will be the same that is already blacklisted though :p |
| 18:14.49 | Stanzilla | I certainly dont want to go the US food/packaging warning way |
| 18:14.59 | Stanzilla | and go like "putting a plastic bag over your head might kill you" |
| 18:15.01 | Stanzilla | on every import |
| 18:15.08 | Ironii | even if you don't know anything about addons, and you see a warning like x() --Dangerous, can be used to delete all your chars |
| 18:15.25 | Infus | well, my idea is to not warn if you stay in the sandbox, thus eliminating the warning for most custom auras |
| 18:15.26 | Stanzilla | why would that function not be blocked? |
| 18:16.16 | Infus | Guill: you have succesfully dodged the question, why pasting is orders of magnitude slower than just SetText, or why it is quadratic... |
| 18:16.33 | Stanzilla | I mean it's our addon, if we say you cant do xyz with it then that's it |
| 18:16.46 | Stanzilla | if you want to touch mail/trade/items then not with WA, get a different addon |
| 18:17.11 | Ironii | imo not every function that can be abused should be blocked, but it would be helpfull to get a warning if the aura is using such functions |
| 18:17.33 | Guill | Infus: The answer is probably "bad code". The time consuming part is tracking down that bad code :P |
| 18:17.39 | Stanzilla | well then let's compile a list of those dangerous but not block worthy |
| 18:17.50 | Ironii | hf. |
| 18:17.51 | Ironii | :) |
| 18:18.10 | Infus | point is, that is a empty list |
| 18:18.11 | Ironii | i blame the cursor blink stuff for editbox lagging. |
| 18:19.07 | Stanzilla | semlar knows what it is but dude decided to not be here today :( |
| 18:27.14 | mckenziemc | "in order to use this nifty aura, you need to run this script to edit the addon's whitelist" |
| 18:30.02 | Stanzilla | yeah certainly not doing that :D |
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| 18:32.08 | mckenziemc | you and what percent of WoW users |
| 18:33.15 | mckenziemc | s/WoW/WA/ |
| 18:33.44 | Guill | Stanzilla: What if you went with the idea of making the user approve the list of functions, but to keep them on their toes, 1/5 times you added a malicious function yourself and if they allowed it through, you deleted all their items. If it was a 1/5 chance, people might actually read through the list! |
| 18:34.12 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 18:34.34 | Stanzilla | Guill: now we're talking |
| 18:34.58 | Guill | (Disclaimer: Please don't actually do that) |
| 18:35.02 | Simca | there is this amazing PDF about "how to keep your job forever" that explains in incredible detail how to write code that nobody else will ever be able to understand |
| 18:35.49 | Simca | some of the suggestions are so amazingly evil it's just so hilarious |
| 18:37.07 | Simca | ah, this: http://www.se.rit.edu/~tabeec/RIT_441/Resources_files/How%20To%20Write%20Unmaintainable%20Code.pdf |
| 18:37.38 | PhatsoTGT | @Guill your Method works if the look of the Tooltip is by design always the same. But that way you cant change the Border anymore for example. Because your generic border color for the default tooltip is set after OnTooltipSetUnit or OnTooltipSetItem is being fired |
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| 18:39.33 | PhatsoTGT | with the OnHide method most people are using, you set the Canvas clean to your defaults and react to Item Tooltips for example for which alot of people would like to Quality Indicating Borders when their Specific Set Function has its Callback fire |
| 18:41.03 | PhatsoTGT | 9 Days of not touching the subject i invested 20 hours of fiddling and all was gone already. No shame to not perfectly know ancient code of your company. :D |
| 18:46.09 | PhatsoTGT | maybe some of your colleagues has a trump up his sleeve but if i understood correctly this is an issue for a long time and people accepted it for good, which makes me think that its not just me being a terrible programmer. |
| 18:56.46 | zork-tdmog | got the button frame fader working https://github.com/zorker/rothui/blob/master/wow7.0/rLib/framefader.lua#L77 |
| 18:57.48 | foxlit | "in next, buttonList do" << you're now breathing manually, zork-tdmog. |
| 18:58.30 | zork-tdmog | pardon? |
| 19:02.08 | PhatsoTGT | its the except same thing as pairs(buttonList) foxlit |
| 19:02.10 | foxlit | it's slightly more efficient than breathing automatically, but if you forget to do it, you die. |
| 19:02.17 | PhatsoTGT | exact* |
| 19:03.35 | PhatsoTGT | how can you forget "next,"buttonList but not "pairs("buttonList")" |
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| 19:14.35 | mckenziemc | it happens |
| 19:14.58 | Unkle | STATION! |
| 19:15.08 | zork-tdmog | :-) |
| 19:21.50 | PhatsoTGT | what happens? |
| 19:31.46 | Guill | PhatsoTGT: Are you sure about that? As far as I can tell, the only time we set the backdrop from C++ at all is for non-unit objects (which don't have any sort of OnTooltipSetObject callback or anything) |
| 19:32.33 | Guill | It seems like adding that callback could solve the issue as well. I'd have to spend some time figuring out whether there was an intentional reason it was left out though. It doesn't seem like there should be since you could just figure it out with OnUpdate... |
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| 19:33.04 | gre | hi |
| 19:33.12 | zenzelezz | hello |
| 19:33.31 | gre | i need some help to move my focus castbar, i tried many script on forums with setpoint & hook, it doesn't work at all.. :( |
| 19:34.12 | gre | hello zenzelezz |
| 19:35.51 | gre | Message: Interface\FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1871: MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint(): ActionButton1 is dependent on this |
| 19:35.52 | gre | wtf |
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| 19:36.20 | gre | actionbutton1 is dependent with my FocusFrameSpellBar ? |
| 19:36.26 | gre | so weird |
| 19:40.42 | Guill | gre: Why don't you show us what you're doing? Put your code on pastebin or make a gist or something. |
| 19:41.46 | gre | sure, the macro script i found is short : http://pastebin.com/8x7vnzLw |
| 19:42.30 | gre | it works once actually, but i decided to change the setscale and it doesn't work anymore (yes i reloaded and i also disconnect/reconnect the game) |
| 19:43.30 | gre | i also trie a Clearallpoints on FocusFrameSpellBar and then a SetPoint but nothing changed |
| 19:43.43 | gre | thats why i need your help |
| 19:43.51 | PhatsoTGT | Guill> It seems like adding that callback could solve the issue as well. I'd have to spend some time figuring out whether there was an intentional reason it was left out though. |
| 19:44.00 | PhatsoTGT | that is exactly what i was asking for |
| 19:44.25 | Semlar | Infus, Stanzilla: i made an edit box that recorded every character you entered OnChar into a table and then cleared text box and joined the table when it was finished |
| 19:44.28 | gre | -> /run FocusFrameSpellBar:ClearAllPoints() FocusFrameSpellBar:SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER", 0, -120) ; /run FocusFrameSpellBar:SetScale(1.5) |
| 19:44.30 | PhatsoTGT | PhatsoTGT> the client overrides SetBackdrop and SetBackdropColor when hovering over GameObjects for example |
| 19:44.30 | PhatsoTGT | <PhatsoTGT> basically anything in the rendered world that isnt a unit but drops a tooltip |
| 19:44.34 | gre | this for example doens't work too |
| 19:45.11 | Infus | Semlar: did that work for pasting? |
| 19:45.16 | Semlar | yes |
| 19:45.21 | Semlar | OnChar fired for every character from the paste |
| 19:45.31 | Semlar | Infus, Stanzilla http://pastebin.com/st3ug9AY |
| 19:45.39 | PhatsoTGT | anyways. am working on getting sleep. am doing poorly |
| 19:45.44 | Infus | Guill: that's you problem... you are pasting each char.. |
| 19:45.50 | gre | anyone? lol |
| 19:45.51 | Semlar | no |
| 19:46.05 | Semlar | the problem is that as the font string got longer it used more processing |
| 19:46.11 | Semlar | i don't know why |
| 19:46.22 | gre | omg im invisible :)) |
| 19:47.08 | PhatsoTGT | so gn everyone o7 |
| 19:47.26 | PhatsoTGT | gn to you too gre |
| 19:47.45 | Semlar | i don't know if it was from all the string concatenations or just the font string itself |
| 19:48.24 | gre | lol |
| 19:48.28 | Stanzilla | Semlar: hey |
| 19:48.30 | Stanzilla | we missed you |
| 19:48.42 | Semlar | of course you did |
| 19:48.43 | gre | i think everyone already said me gn |
| 19:48.55 | gre | coz i have no answer to my issue :/ |
| 19:48.58 | Semlar | gre i have no idea what you're talking about |
| 19:49.10 | gre | its easy, focus spell bar frame |
| 19:49.16 | gre | i want to move it |
| 19:49.18 | gre | thats all. |
| 19:49.24 | gre | :S |
| 19:49.51 | gre | or target spell bar frame (castbar if you prefer) |
| 19:49.55 | Semlar | it sounds like you anchored your action bar to it |
| 19:50.15 | Guill | gre: Looks like one issue is that you're clearing out SetPoint. Next time the cast bar shows, your own call to SetPoint is going to fail. |
| 19:50.15 | gre | yeah |
| 19:51.54 | Semlar | where did you find this script |
| 19:52.17 | Ironii | Semlar how long it would take to paste ~900k chars with that editbox? |
| 19:52.26 | Semlar | not long |
| 19:52.40 | Semlar | it's a huge improvement over the normal edit box |
| 19:53.15 | Semlar | it was only designed for pasting i think |
| 19:53.33 | Ironii | mhh, ill have to give it a try :P |
| 19:53.34 | Semlar | i can't find my actual original code that i wrote for this |
| 19:53.38 | Semlar | i probably erased it |
| 19:53.52 | Guill | Yeah, someone else on the UI team actually got curious and took a look and found the same thing. There are some slight differences between pasting and inserting/settexting, so it's unlikely we'll change it for 7.0 since it works for the base UI. |
| 19:54.22 | Semlar | from what i remember, the lag was just from having a giant fontstring |
| 19:54.36 | Semlar | like any font string you create, the longer you make it the worse it gets |
| 19:55.00 | Semlar | and since edit boxes are just one long font string, the more characters you put into it the slower it gets |
| 19:55.11 | gre | -> /run hooksecurefunc(FocusFrameSpellBar, "Show", function() FocusFrameSpellBar:SetScale(1.1) FocusFrameSpellBar:ClearAllPoints() FocusFrameSpellBar:SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER", 0, -170) end) |
| 19:55.15 | gre | ok now it works but |
| 19:55.29 | gre | not during the first spell cast by the focus enemy |
| 19:55.46 | gre | after the first spell cast it works well, the castbar is in middle of my screen |
| 19:56.58 | gre | "you're clearing out SetPoint" so |
| 19:57.08 | gre | i have to keep it, right? how can i do that? |
| 19:57.28 | gre | i have to lock it |
| 19:59.24 | Semlar | where did you find this macro you're using |
| 20:00.06 | Stanzilla | FocusFrameSpellBar.SetPoint=function()end |
| 20:00.08 | Stanzilla | but that is ghetto |
| 20:00.16 | Semlar | that's literally what he had |
| 20:00.39 | gre | ahhh the clearpoints |
| 20:00.41 | Semlar | what he was describing earlier makes no sense |
| 20:00.56 | Stanzilla | he posted 2 versions of the script :o |
| 20:00.59 | Semlar | unless he anchored his action bar to his focus frame's cast bar or something |
| 20:01.05 | gre | i think i found :D |
| 20:02.11 | Semlar | i hope you're using /reload after you try these scripts |
| 20:02.26 | Semlar | so they aren't all running on top of each other |
| 20:02.36 | Ironii | Semlar thanks, thats a huge improvment, without that pasting long string was ~imbossible ;p, with that it takes 0.5-1.5sec to paste 650k chars long string |
| 20:02.38 | gre | i do |
| 20:02.41 | gre | but no :/ |
| 20:02.45 | gre | don't works |
| 20:03.02 | Munk | That's a long string. |
| 20:04.01 | Ironii | meh, it was 300k chars longer before changed them a bit ^^ |
| 20:04.24 | Semlar | i can't even find where i talked about this on rikers, maybe purl wasn't here |
| 20:05.12 | Semlar | wait, no, i found it |
| 20:05.23 | Semlar | apparently their custom search just sucks |
| 20:05.33 | Ironii | now fix SMF:AddMessag lag and SMF:PageUp()/Down() |
| 20:05.34 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.35 | Ironii | <3 |
| 20:06.08 | Semlar | just search for pastebin |
| 20:07.56 | Semlar | it looks like my suggestion for detecting pastes was just to see how many characters got added at once |
| 20:08.59 | Semlar | oh i also apparently had a better way to do this |
| 20:09.45 | Semlar | you can call SetMaxLetters(1) and still get the OnChar events from a paste |
| 20:09.53 | Semlar | and then you don't have to clear the box out repeatedly |
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| 20:12.19 | VIad | told you, Semlar had a way |
| 20:14.39 | Semlar | i actually found my original script, it looks like i created a font string on top of my fake edit box to display a section of the text that had been pasted |
| 20:15.33 | Semlar | so rather than make a 70k character font string it only had to draw 2000 or something |
| 20:16.19 | gre | PLEASE can you just give a look at http://pastebin.com/9SutWEfx ? |
| 20:16.30 | gre | any idea is welcome |
| 20:18.05 | Infus | Semlar: sounds great, any idea why that was never added to WA? |
| 20:18.19 | Semlar | i don't know, stanzilla knew about it |
| 20:19.18 | Semlar | i had designed it to only work for pastes, but that's all the box is being used for anyway |
| 20:19.28 | gre | :( |
| 20:20.16 | Ironii | maybe its was at a start of diablo season and stanzilla had to play diablo instead of doing something usefull ? :) |
| 20:21.15 | Semlar | gre: your error is from reparenting your castbar |
| 20:21.26 | gre | ??? |
| 20:21.29 | gre | ahh |
| 20:21.33 | Semlar | you can't change its parent |
| 20:21.51 | gre | mhhh so i can't move the castbar ? |
| 20:21.57 | Semlar | you can move it, just not change its parent |
| 20:22.41 | Semlar | at least i assume you can move it, i can't imagine why anything protected would be relying on it |
| 20:22.43 | gre | but i don't know its parent |
| 20:22.48 | Stanzilla | Semlar Infus it had to be integrated into our AceGui widget and I kinda forgot about it |
| 20:23.08 | Stanzilla | Ironii: burn |
| 20:23.46 | Semlar | where are you trying to move the castbar? |
| 20:26.43 | Semlar | have you tried just doing this /run FocusFrameSpellBar:SetScript("OnShow", nil) FocusFrameSpellBar:ClearAllPoints() FocusFrameSpellBar:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent,-230,-10) FocusFrameSpellBar:SetScale(1.8) |
| 20:28.46 | Infus | Semlar, Stanzilla: okay, I'll put that on my ever increasing todo list, shouldn't be too hard to try out |
| 20:30.38 | gre | yeah |
| 20:31.10 | gre | and the castbar is linked to the focusframe , its just scaling big the focus castbar thats all |
| 20:31.29 | gre | but the focus cast bar is still at the same position |
| 20:31.39 | gre | under the focus frame |
| 20:31.43 | Semlar | Infus: http://hastebin.com/ujoqutuyih.lua here's my whole fake edit box script that i had |
| 20:32.12 | Semlar | it was meant to appear to be an edit box that only accepted pastes |
| 20:32.13 | gre | thats why i have to set another UIParent i guess |
| 20:32.28 | gre | to unlink the castbar and move it where i want |
| 20:32.29 | Infus | Semlar: okay, I'll see how that feels like |
| 20:32.47 | Semlar | i don't think it handled control characters or anything |
| 20:32.51 | Semlar | like line breaks |
| 20:33.09 | Semlar | i'm not sure that OnChar fired for them |
| 20:33.31 | Infus | so why did you do the clearBuffer in OnUpdate? |
| 20:33.42 | Infus | and not in OnChar? |
| 20:34.10 | Semlar | well the buffer is all of the text that it's collected from OnChar |
| 20:34.30 | Semlar | so when you're pasting something it fires OnChar repeatedly with each character you pasted |
| 20:34.46 | Semlar | and i use OnUpdate to clear it out on the next frame |
| 20:34.59 | Infus | ah got it, OnUpdate runs after #x OnChars, and then just uses SetText |
| 20:35.26 | Semlar | the next frame should be delayed until your paste finishes |
| 20:35.49 | Semlar | so basically it just uses that to know when it has everything |
| 20:37.15 | Semlar | gre: it's "under" your focus frame because that's where the SetPoint puts it |
| 20:38.02 | Semlar | if you changed FocusFrameSpellBar:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent,-230,-10) to FocusFrameSpellBar:SetPoint("CENTER",UIParent) it should be in the center of your screen |
| 20:39.07 | gre | same by chagings your values |
| 20:39.13 | gre | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.17 | gre | changing* |
| 20:40.33 | gre | no Semlar |
| 20:40.43 | gre | its not mid of the screen |
| 20:40.51 | gre | i reloaded ofc |
| 20:40.52 | Semlar | works fine for me |
| 20:41.01 | gre | can't believe you |
| 20:41.08 | gre | or you moved your focus frame with it |
| 20:41.20 | gre | not only the focus castbar |
| 20:44.37 | gre | Message: Interface\FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1871: MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint(): ActionButton1 is dependent on this |
| 20:44.49 | gre | okay maybe i see what is wrong |
| 20:45.42 | Semlar | https://gfycat.com/OddballOddballBee |
| 20:46.53 | gre | maybe because i loaded these macros before yours Semlar |
| 20:46.55 | gre | http://pastebin.com/0ZAQEHwd |
| 20:47.05 | gre | its creating a conflict or kinda |
| 20:47.13 | gre | with setpoint |
| 20:47.14 | gre | i guess |
| 20:47.44 | gre | Ohhh you did it |
| 20:47.47 | gre | I see |
| 20:49.13 | Semlar | your error isn't even from moving the focus castbar it's from one of these other macros |
| 20:49.58 | gre | yeah im realizing im not working on the error for a while |
| 20:50.06 | gre | ty to you for that |
| 20:51.21 | gre | with these macros i did 3 blocks for action bars |
| 20:51.27 | gre | like bartender now |
| 20:51.47 | gre | you can try them they're great |
| 20:53.16 | Semlar | the error is from ActionButton1:SetPoint("TOPLEFT",MultiBarBottomLeft,"BOTTOMLEFT") |
| 20:54.27 | Semlar | MultiBarBottomLeft is probably supposed to be anchored to the normal action bar |
| 20:54.43 | Semlar | so they're trying to anchor to each other |
| 20:54.55 | gre | mhh |
| 20:55.21 | gre | i have to inverse them then |
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| 20:57.24 | Semlar | the interface is probably trying to move them for some reason |
| 20:58.19 | gre | yeah thats weird coz i had no lua error with these macros |
| 20:58.33 | gre | i couldn't suspect that |
| 20:58.56 | Semlar | why use a bunch of macros instead of an addon for this |
| 20:59.12 | Semlar | this seems inconvenient |
| 20:59.14 | gre | not so many, only 7 macros |
| 20:59.15 | Predicate | Addons are scary |
| 20:59.22 | gre | i have an i3 :/ |
| 20:59.25 | Semlar | well 7 macros you have to run every time you log in |
| 20:59.42 | Munk | http://addon.bool.no/ |
| 20:59.45 | Semlar | even just one would be tedious for me |
| 20:59.55 | gre | yeah but its fast, instead of upgrading all addons everytime |
| 21:00.03 | Predicate | What? |
| 21:00.05 | Semlar | i mean there's easily things like http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info23956-rActionBar.html that will probably never break |
| 21:00.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Ressy (~Ressy@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Ressy) |
| 21:00.30 | Predicate | Running the code in a macro is no different from running the same code in an addon... |
| 21:00.54 | Munk | Last time I checked macros dont automatically run on login ;) |
| 21:01.04 | zork-tdmog | never break >< |
| 21:01.25 | Predicate | Yeah zork-tdmog, don't you know your code is infallible? |
| 21:01.35 | Semlar | how complicated could it be |
| 21:01.36 | gre | yeah but for a blizzcon challenger we can't install addon :D haha |
| 21:01.46 | Semlar | even if it needs to be updated it would take less time than running macros every time you log in |
| 21:01.54 | gre | thats true even if im not a blizzcon challenger |
| 21:02.03 | Semlar | i see |
| 21:02.28 | Semlar | i find that rule to be completely ridiculous if they allow you to run a bunch of macros that do the same thing as an addon would have |
| 21:02.43 | Predicate | Yeah, I'm surprised /run and /script work at all. |
| 21:02.52 | gre | thats because they don't want to verify every indicidual addon before |
| 21:03.05 | Predicate | But they're willing to verify all your macros? |
| 21:03.06 | gre | invidual* |
| 21:03.07 | Semlar | but they let you type a bunch of code into the game |
| 21:03.21 | gre | macros are allowed |
| 21:03.35 | Semlar | from what i remember, they aren't verifying the macros, they just give them x amount of time to set up their game before the match starts |
| 21:03.43 | Semlar | and whatever they can type in that time they can use |
| 21:04.18 | zork-tdmog | lol |
| 21:04.19 | foxlit | In short, that ruleset is bullshit but nobody involved wants to touch it with a mile-long pole. |
| 21:04.21 | gre | well, im at the ending about my macros, i just need to correct something you told me and its done |
| 21:04.22 | Predicate | All they achieve by forcing you to use macros is limiting the amount of space you have to store your code. That just means the code will be more obfuscated and hard to verify. |
| 21:04.33 | zork-tdmog | sounds really dumb |
| 21:04.35 | Semlar | i think last time someone came in asking about this i recommended writing a macro that creates an edit box that you can paste an entire addon into |
| 21:04.56 | gre | lol |
| 21:05.20 | foxlit | which they promptly rejected because reasons. |
| 21:05.24 | Semlar | reasons! |
| 21:05.31 | Predicate | Bah. Users. |
| 21:05.31 | foxlit | PvP'ers, right? :P |
| 21:05.37 | gre | yeah |
| 21:05.48 | Semlar | i think they thought it was crossing a line or something and they didn't want to get caught for it |
| 21:06.02 | Semlar | they didn't really offer anything satisfactory |
| 21:06.35 | Semlar | i mean they said they had access to the web so they could copy code out of their emails or pastebin or something |
| 21:06.44 | Predicate | That's...absurd. |
| 21:06.45 | Semlar | or maybe a thumb drive |
| 21:06.48 | Semlar | i don't remember |
| 21:06.56 | Semlar | but they could definitely copy whatever code they wanted to |
| 21:07.06 | Semlar | just not actually install addons |
| 21:07.24 | Predicate | Someone in here who knows how to PvP should show them the error of their ways. |
| 21:08.05 | Munk | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.50 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i saw someone implement platebuffs through macros for a tournament |
| 21:12.43 | VIad | Semlar: arent /script disabled on tourhnament clients? |
| 21:12.57 | VIad | sounds like they should if they want a good environment :p |
| 21:13.01 | VIad | like the beta |
| 21:13.23 | Semlar | it wasn't something hosted by blizzard |
| 21:13.43 | Semlar | and i have no idea what they disable in the official tournaments |
| 21:14.39 | Semlar | Guill: why can't i bind "INTERACTMOUSEOVER" to my mouse and have it work on unit frames |
| 21:15.05 | Semlar | it only works if i bind it to a key |
| 21:16.40 | Munk | Because mouse buttons are overridden when you're hovering a mouse enabled frame |
| 21:20.04 | Semlar | yeah but that behavior doesn't make any sense |
| 21:20.25 | Predicate | Yes it does |
| 21:20.42 | Semlar | the unit frame has to be mouse enabled for it to give you a mouseover target |
| 21:20.53 | Munk | Why not? MOUSE1 and MOUSE2 have bindings just like anything else, only we don't see them in the binding list. When you enter a frame, your mouse will want to click that frame instead of using the binding you assigned to it. |
| 21:21.02 | Semlar | the fact that it's mouse-enabled shouldn't make it BLOCK the mouse from interacting with the unit |
| 21:21.31 | Predicate | Mouse events can only be handled in one place, if the binding took over then your OnClick handler would never fire. |
| 21:22.03 | Predicate | It makes sense unless you're trying to do the one really weird thing that you're doing. |
| 21:22.10 | Munk | :p |
| 21:22.16 | Munk | What are you trying to do btw? |
| 21:22.34 | Predicate | Honestly, I don't know why /interact isn't a thing. Then you could at least make it work with macro text. |
| 21:23.00 | Munk | That would be cool. It would also be cool if you could bind a button to loot and pick up stuff :) |
| 21:23.08 | Semlar | uh it also means you can't use mouseover macros bound to your mouse |
| 21:23.17 | Semlar | on unit frames |
| 21:23.32 | Predicate | That's why click-casting addons are a thing. |
| 21:23.47 | Predicate | Plus, it only matters for the first 5 mouse buttons anyway, since Windows doesn't know there are more than that. |
| 21:23.54 | Semlar | i'm just saying the behavior is wrong |
| 21:25.03 | Predicate | It isn't ideal, in hindsight, but that's because it was hacked together over time... |
| 21:26.42 | Semlar | if the frame you're hovering over is mouse enabled but has no click handlers, should it still block the mouse from performing what it's bound to |
| 21:27.20 | Semlar | i suppose it makes sense to prevent you from clicking on the world frame |
| 21:27.22 | Munk | I think it's just fundamentally built into the system and it doesn't look for click handlers at all |
| 21:27.51 | Semlar | but i still think it's absurd that you can't interact with a unit frame as if it were a unit |
| 21:28.56 | Semlar | i don't like that i can't inherit a template that allows me to interact with the unit normally |
| 21:28.58 | Munk | What exactly are you trying to do? You have a unit frame which you want to interact with by clicking on it, but also have "INTERACTMOUSEOVER" as your primary binding on MOUSE1? |
| 21:29.13 | Semlar | i just want to be able to right click on a unit frame and interact with it |
| 21:29.36 | Semlar | this appears to be impossible |
| 21:29.58 | Munk | Can't you just register for right click? Sounds like it should be possible in one way or another. |
| 21:30.06 | Semlar | register for what |
| 21:30.07 | pompy | http://spaceflightnow.com/2016/05/26/falcon-9-thaicom-8-mission-status-center/ launch in 10 mins |
| 21:30.10 | Kesava | new buuuuild today? |
| 21:30.19 | Semlar | i can't call "INTERACTMOUSEOVER" from a click |
| 21:30.31 | Stanzilla | yes Kesava |
| 21:30.38 | Semlar | you can only do it from a binding |
| 21:30.42 | Kesava | yay. |
| 21:31.20 | Semlar | and you can't call InteractUnit because it's protected |
| 21:31.40 | Semlar | even from the restricted environment |
| 21:32.10 | Munk | I understand what you're trying to do now. |
| 21:33.05 | Predicate | The interact binding was added far later than the secure templates. Nobody thought to go back and add an interact action for secure frames. |
| 21:33.06 | Semlar | i mean let's say i have a unit frame for NamePlate1 and i want to be able to click on it to either attack or interact with it |
| 21:33.10 | gre | Semlar: what UIParent should i put for ActionButton1 about you? |
| 21:33.19 | foxlit | coincidentally, number of protected global api functions you can call from the restricted environment: 0. |
| 21:33.39 | pompy | welp https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/735943268555329536 |
| 21:33.50 | Munk | But you don't want to target that unit? |
| 21:34.07 | Semlar | i don't care if it targets the unit |
| 21:34.24 | Semlar | i mean left click should probably do normal left click behavior and right click should do normal right click behavior |
| 21:34.59 | Semlar | i can bind left click to target because there's an attribute for it |
| 21:35.40 | Semlar | i don't seem to even be able to replicate right click's normal attacking behavior through macros |
| 21:36.13 | Semlar | let alone interact with them |
| 21:37.01 | foxlit | why doesn't /target [@something] /startattack work? |
| 21:37.14 | Semlar | it stops the second time you call it for some reason |
| 21:37.46 | Munk | You might be able to do this, but it's not going to be as simple as using attributes. Have you tried using a PreClick wrap script on the unit frame, check for right click, clearing mouse enable, override MOUSE2 to INTERACTTARGET then reverting back in the PostClick? |
| 21:37.54 | Semlar | well, i was using /startattack mouseover but i could try it the other way |
| 21:38.12 | foxlit | that couldn't possibly work, Munk. |
| 21:38.18 | Munk | Haha, maybe not. |
| 21:38.48 | Semlar | i actually did attempt to hook preclick and disable the frame but at that point it's already intercepted the mouse click |
| 21:38.59 | Semlar | so obviously it doesn't execute the binding |
| 21:39.08 | Munk | INTERACT* bindings don't runOnUp do they? |
| 21:39.26 | Semlar | the issue is that the frame is already reacting to your click on it |
| 21:39.30 | foxlit | doesn't matter, you already ate the down event by the time preclick fires. |
| 21:40.11 | foxlit | (and up only gets delivered to whatever handled down) |
| 21:40.31 | Munk | Maybe they should add that as an attribute tbh. |
| 21:40.38 | Semlar | i would agree |
| 21:40.39 | Munk | What could possibly go wrong? |
| 21:40.58 | Semlar | i think they should just let me call bindings directly from the restricted environment |
| 21:41.16 | Semlar | aw the servers are down |
| 21:41.19 | Munk | Would that be safe? |
| 21:41.24 | Semlar | safe? probably not |
| 21:41.29 | Semlar | but it would let me do what i want |
| 21:41.34 | Munk | :D |
| 21:41.36 | Kesava | yees they just went down a few minutes ago for the new build |
| 21:42.04 | Semlar | i mean what's the point of a restricted environment if i can't just do whatever i want in it |
| 21:42.15 | Kesava | i agree |
| 21:43.00 | Semlar | the client's process never appears to end itself i close it from the login screen |
| 21:43.22 | Kesava | it'll pop up with an crash-error-report-thing after a while |
| 21:43.29 | Kesava | unless you just end it |
| 21:43.34 | Kesava | AN CRASH |
| 21:44.42 | Semlar | i should probably get a real irc client |
| 21:44.52 | Munk | I'm using HexChat |
| 21:44.54 | Semlar | this is a horrible setup |
| 21:45.16 | Kesava | chatzilla ew |
| 21:45.24 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure this has a memory leak |
| 21:48.14 | Stanzilla | is that crap even still maintained? |
| 21:50.21 | fewyn | i worked 11 hours today :/ |
| 21:50.37 | Mr_Rabies | i only worked 8, but it was in a 90 degree warehouse |
| 21:50.44 | Mr_Rabies | so i'm gonna go ahead and quit tomorrow |
| 21:50.51 | Munk | lol |
| 21:51.12 | fewyn | i also had to fire someone today |
| 21:51.32 | mckenziemc | did it take all of those 11 hours? |
| 21:51.48 | fewyn | i had to teach some modules then proctor a test |
| 21:52.06 | mckenziemc | and someone cheated? |
| 21:52.27 | fewyn | no |
| 21:52.29 | fewyn | they failed |
| 21:52.35 | fewyn | on their second attempt |
| 21:52.36 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 21:52.39 | fewyn | so they lost their job |
| 21:52.42 | fewyn | yep |
| 21:52.55 | fewyn | wasn't looking forward to that today |
| 21:53.29 | Munk | What do you do for a living? |
| 21:53.42 | fewyn | i'm a trainer for new advisors |
| 21:53.49 | fewyn | specifically for Apple |
| 21:54.38 | fewyn | i don't work directly for apple though |
| 21:55.11 | Mr_Rabies | i'm so overheated i can't brane |
| 21:55.19 | Mr_Rabies | i keep tripping over stuff and dropping stuff |
| 21:55.27 | Mr_Rabies | i can't handle this kinda heat |
| 21:55.40 | Mr_Rabies | lesson learned: don't work in a warehouse, folks |
| 21:55.40 | fewyn | rip Mr_Rabies |
| 21:55.46 | fewyn | i did it for about 6 months |
| 21:55.48 | fewyn | when i was 18 |
| 21:55.55 | fewyn | never again... mainly because i fucked my leg up |
| 21:55.59 | Mr_Rabies | in ohio or florida? |
| 21:56.02 | fewyn | ohio |
| 21:56.11 | fewyn | i fell off a dock door and slammed my leg into a spike |
| 21:56.17 | *** join/#wowuidev mckenziemc (~Mark@104-51-145-162.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:56.17 | Mr_Rabies | still gets pretty warm there in summer but at least not florida heat |
| 21:56.20 | Mr_Rabies | yeesh |
| 21:57.17 | fewyn | my leg is p fucked |
| 22:01.43 | gre | Semlar: |
| 22:01.46 | Munk | I wonder when beta will be back up. |
| 22:01.51 | gre | you told me about rAction addon |
| 22:01.55 | gre | i just installed it |
| 22:02.02 | gre | and i have an error lol Message: Interface\FrameXML\MainMenuBarMicroButtons.lua:208: MainMenuMicroButton:SetPoint(): StoreMicroButton is dependent on this Time: 05/27/16 00:01:15 Count: 1 Stack: [C]: in function `SetPoint' |
| 22:02.13 | gre | addons ... |
| 22:02.24 | Munk | Well, to be fair the store button is relatively new |
| 22:02.25 | Semlar | probably from one of your macros |
| 22:02.34 | gre | i didn't click on my macros |
| 22:02.37 | gre | i swear |
| 22:02.39 | Semlar | zork just made that addon |
| 22:02.50 | gre | its outdated |
| 22:02.53 | Semlar | what |
| 22:03.07 | Semlar | on live? |
| 22:03.13 | gre | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info23956-rActionBar.html |
| 22:03.21 | gre | this addon is outdated yea |
| 22:03.30 | Semlar | it's for legion |
| 22:03.51 | Semlar | so i guess it might not work on live |
| 22:03.57 | gre | okay not for now then |
| 22:04.10 | Mr_Rabies | you may have installed a beta version or something |
| 22:04.19 | Semlar | there's another addon that does the same thing but i can't recall what it's called |
| 22:04.26 | Mr_Rabies | at this point, the beta version of several addons might be aiming at 7.0 compatibility |
| 22:04.28 | Semlar | it just stacks the blizzard bars on top of each other |
| 22:04.37 | Mr_Rabies | i don't know anything about raction myself so i have no clue |
| 22:04.56 | gre | probably moveanything? |
| 22:05.11 | Semlar | no it only does one thing and that's move the default bars |
| 22:05.35 | mckenziemc | ... |
| 22:06.10 | Kesava | ractionbar works fine for me on live and legion, same version |
| 22:07.07 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~quassel@unaffiliated/kd3) |
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| 22:13.04 | gre | lol okay ! |
| 22:13.12 | gre | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.15 | gre | yeah it works |
| 22:13.18 | gre | BUT |
| 22:13.22 | gre | try on a mob :)) |
| 22:13.34 | gre | not on a dummy |
| 22:13.46 | kd3 | whee. got a new launch time for the spacex launch. 23:36 UTC (83 minutes from now) |
| 22:13.58 | Munk | What are they launching |
| 22:13.58 | gre | when you change focus, its resetting and castbar go under focus frame again |
| 22:14.18 | kd3 | a comm satellite to gto |
| 22:14.27 | gre | we need a focus frame casting a spell Semlar |
| 22:14.32 | zork-tdmog | my addon is what? |
| 22:15.01 | zork-tdmog | outdated? i'm developing that on legion beta atm. |
| 22:15.58 | zork-tdmog | ah ok he said live. just use this then: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12168-rActionBarStyler.html |
| 22:16.42 | zork-tdmog | going to bed, gn8 |
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| 22:19.17 | gre | oh zoktar |
| 22:19.26 | gre | damn tab |
| 22:19.32 | Munk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.35 | Munk | how about this |
| 22:20.57 | Munk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.19 | Munk | Shaved off a couple of spaces. No idea if it works. |
| 22:22.26 | Munk | Might have to clear points in the hook function tho. |
| 22:22.37 | Munk | Depending on how it's usually anchored |
| 22:25.38 | Predicate | Writing Lua in macros makes me feel claustrophobic. |
| 22:25.42 | Munk | :D |
| 22:26.58 | Munk | What's the limit for a macro? |
| 22:27.08 | Semlar | 255 characters |
| 22:27.59 | Munk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.03 | Munk | This is 251 characters |
| 22:28.09 | Munk | Very readable. |
| 22:30.49 | harl | why A |
| 22:31.51 | gre | lol |
| 22:31.53 | Munk | If the real parent frame keeps re-anchoring the spell bar to itself then it needs to be cleared. |
| 22:31.59 | gre | thank you gonna test it |
| 22:32.30 | harl | no, i mean why the variable |
| 22:32.50 | Munk | A = "ClearAllPoints" |
| 22:32.54 | harl | yes |
| 22:33.10 | Munk | Ah, nvm. It can actually be taken out |
| 22:33.14 | harl | yes |
| 22:33.31 | gre | it works perctly with no other macros script |
| 22:33.36 | gre | great |
| 22:33.37 | Munk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.39 | Kesava | always futureproof your macros |
| 22:33.47 | Semlar | :| |
| 22:33.47 | Munk | Fuck! |
| 22:33.52 | Munk | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:33.54 | Munk | There :p |
| 22:34.16 | gre | with my other macros i have a LUA error : http://pastebin.com/9SutWEfx |
| 22:34.25 | gre | with ActionButton1 |
| 22:34.32 | gre | and your macro |
| 22:36.09 | gre | Message: Interface\FrameXML\UIParent.lua:1871: MultiBarBottomLeft:SetPoint(): ActionButton1 is dependent on this |
| 22:36.11 | gre | always |
| 22:36.14 | gre | cant fix it |
| 22:36.23 | foxlit | in short, you've got yourself an unmaintanable collection of macros. |
| 22:36.31 | foxlit | grats; it's so much easier to fix than updating an addon. |
| 22:36.38 | Semlar | i don't think it has anything to do with that particular macro |
| 22:36.50 | Semlar | you should probably be getting that error regardless |
| 22:37.21 | Semlar | but like foxlit said, this sounds like a nightmare to maintain |
| 22:37.48 | gre | im sure i can learn and mastery my macros |
| 22:37.52 | foxlit | maybe I should've inserted "defective" in there. |
| 22:38.15 | nebula | why the fuck are you doing it that way in the first place? |
| 22:38.20 | gre | what about an addon if the dev stop to work on it ? |
| 22:38.29 | nevcairiel | find a new one |
| 22:38.33 | Semlar | you can turn your set of macros into an addon |
| 22:38.34 | gre | again & again |
| 22:39.02 | nevcairiel | you also need to find new macros if yours break =p |
| 22:39.08 | Semlar | you've been trying to figure out why one of your macros doesn't work for like 2 hours |
| 22:39.12 | nebula | or bother people like us to fix them |
| 22:39.13 | Munk | <gre> yeah but for a blizzcon challenger we can't install addon :D haha |
| 22:39.18 | gre | :) |
| 22:39.21 | gre | exact |
| 22:39.26 | nevcairiel | so, he is just cheating the system |
| 22:39.33 | Semlar | oh right i forgot about that |
| 22:39.34 | nebula | i really wish they would disable /script for all that shit |
| 22:39.35 | Munk | They allow macros and run scripts apparently lol |
| 22:39.47 | foxlit | Allow macros, fine, but disable /run and friends. |
| 22:39.52 | VIad | why arent tournament clients disabled like the beta is? |
| 22:39.54 | Munk | Idd |
| 22:40.06 | Munk | The beta isn't disabled? |
| 22:40.13 | Munk | Or you mean like it was? |
| 22:40.13 | VIad | was when they didnt want addons |
| 22:40.14 | nevcairiel | it used to be |
| 22:40.23 | VIad | they got the framework in place |
| 22:40.55 | foxlit | well, no. |
| 22:41.08 | gre | can you just tell me |
| 22:41.20 | gre | if you see something wrong here pls : http://pastebin.com/0ZAQEHwd |
| 22:41.21 | VIad | only need to add like IsTournamentClient() and make it behave just like IsBlizzCon() behaves, addon/script wise. |
| 22:41.25 | Semlar | i already told you what macro was causing that error you pasted earlier |
| 22:41.42 | Semlar | it's from reanchoring ActionButton1 |
| 22:41.49 | gre | Semlar you told me about actionbutton1 yeah |
| 22:42.05 | Semlar | there is no way what he pasted would cause that error |
| 22:42.07 | gre | i tried to modify many things |
| 22:43.10 | Munk | The macro I posted doesn't make any changes that would result in that error. It has to do with the auraRows key on the TargetFrame being nil |
| 22:43.28 | VIad | I always wondered why blizzard didnt modify GameTooltip or make children of it, to support things like the pets, followers, e.g. and instead they made their own non-template way to display those tooltips. |
| 22:43.29 | gre | ok Munk |
| 22:43.49 | gre | and thx again for your macro :) |
| 22:43.52 | gre | 244 chars |
| 22:43.53 | gre | its nice |
| 22:45.15 | Munk | 2) Add-on code must be completely visible. |
| 22:45.15 | Munk | The programming code of an add-on must in no way be hidden or obfuscated, and must be freely accessible to and viewable by the general public. |
| 22:45.34 | Munk | Would I be breaking this rule if I wrote an addon in the same fashion as that macro? |
| 22:45.35 | kd3 | stuffing things into macros doesn't count as 'obfuscated' |
| 22:45.49 | Munk | That wasn't my point. :p |
| 22:45.54 | nevcairiel | the code might as well be obfuscated kd3 =p |
| 22:46.02 | nevcairiel | minified macro code is not readable |
| 22:46.51 | VIad | think blizz wouldnt make a fuss about it, macros are limited, everyone writes them as small as they can |
| 22:47.00 | gre | it works its all i want as a gamer nevcairiel |
| 22:47.20 | Munk | Besides, it's still "readable" if you give it a minute |
| 22:47.36 | kd3 | ah, boo. the launch got scrubbed to tomorrow |
| 22:47.50 | nevcairiel | if by that you mean i use that minute to replace all those crazy variables and re-write the code =p |
| 22:48.15 | foxlit | it doesn't really matter, it's not like there is obfuscated code police patrolling around and banning addons. |
| 22:48.26 | VIad | addons maybe, carbonite |
| 22:48.29 | VIad | macros probably not |
| 22:48.34 | nevcairiel | if there was, foxlit would be in trouble |
| 22:48.35 | Munk | http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/poopy-swift-code-example.jpg |
| 22:52.10 | VIad | any pokemon moon/sun hype? |
| 22:52.25 | VIad | at least it comes out after legion, so there is some pacing |
| 22:52.59 | foxlit | sadly, lua doesn't support unicode identifiers. |
| 22:54.09 | fewyn | yes VIad |
| 22:54.14 | fewyn | HYPE |
| 22:54.20 | fewyn | i have to buy a 3ds again |
| 22:54.49 | fewyn | i sold my last one just after my last job for money |
| 22:54.59 | fewyn | i miss it |
| 22:55.17 | foxlit | so no ð¿:ð¥() for you. |
| 22:55.22 | harl | VIad too.. |
| 22:55.44 | VIad | :( |
| 23:10.28 | Semlar | are the realms still offline :( |
| 23:10.38 | nevcairiel | the new build isnt even pushed yet |
| 23:10.49 | Semlar | y u do dis |
| 23:10.54 | foxlit | someone has unrealistic expectations. |
| 23:11.14 | Semlar | are they doing something |
| 23:12.57 | nevcairiel | just convert to european, its always sleepy time when they push builds |
| 23:13.10 | foxlit | yeah, move to scotland, Semlar. |
| 23:13.30 | nevcairiel | speaking of that, i shall go sleep now |
| 23:13.34 | Semlar | but how will i acquire a taste for haggis |
| 23:14.02 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 23:14.54 | Predicate | You say that like it's a desirable outcome. |
| 23:15.25 | Semlar | i really should stop testing things on a character called "mouseover" |
| 23:15.38 | nevcairiel | if you acquire a taste for it, it means you like it afterwards, isnt that a good thing then |
| 23:16.03 | Predicate | No, because then you like something that most of the world considers inedible. What happens when you get a craving? |
| 23:16.20 | foxlit | good news, you're in scotland, who cares about the rest of the world? |
| 23:16.50 | Predicate | Hope you don't ever move :P |
| 23:17.08 | nevcairiel | most people dont leave their country |
| 23:17.45 | Stanzilla | tell that to the people of syria |
| 23:18.09 | Stanzilla | like my grandma used to say "they should just have stayed and fought for their country" |
| 23:18.12 | Stanzilla | nazi grandma out |
| 23:18.26 | nevcairiel | we should just feed them with haggis |
| 23:18.32 | nevcairiel | maybe the problem solves itself then |
| 23:18.51 | Semlar | i think /target [@mouseover,harm] /startattack [@mouseover,harm] works well enough |
| 23:18.51 | Predicate | I suspect that could be considered torture |
| 23:19.10 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.33 | Semlar | i guess it just attacks your target |
| 23:19.38 | Semlar | based on your conditions |
| 23:19.53 | Semlar | but /startattack mouseover does the same thing |
| 23:20.09 | nevcairiel | not that I would eat haggis, but it doesnt sound that terrible, heart is just muscle, we eat liver of other animals just fine, and well lungs .. i suppose there is worth stuff in sausages |
| 23:20.20 | nevcairiel | worse stuff* |
| 23:20.42 | Semlar | wurst stuff* |
| 23:20.46 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.35 | Semlar | am i missing something or does it not actually use your target |
| 23:21.52 | nevcairiel | that depends what StartAttacks parameter actually influences |
| 23:22.04 | Semlar | to the api mobile! |
| 23:22.13 | nevcairiel | it parsers the target from the macro and gives it to StartAttack |
| 23:22.17 | mckenziemc | runs Semlar over. |
| 23:24.16 | Semlar | msg is the entire contents of the macro? |
| 23:24.31 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.40 | nevcairiel | everythign after the slash command itself |
| 23:24.45 | Semlar | ah |
| 23:25.07 | Semlar | yeah i realized that after hitting enter |
| 23:25.22 | nevcairiel | SecureCmdOptionParse is for parsing constructs like [@mouseover,harm], it returns the resolved value and any target override, if any |
| 23:25.38 | Semlar | but it's not returning what i expected |
| 23:25.39 | foxlit | (and a few lines down, CAST shows that someone's tab width settings don't match mine :/ ) |
| 23:26.00 | Semlar | maybe i have to do /startattack [@mouseover,harm] mouseover |
| 23:26.14 | foxlit | bad semlar. |
| 23:26.17 | Semlar | :< |
| 23:26.23 | foxlit | no cookie; it reads the code again and this time it reads it right. |
| 23:27.19 | Semlar | even just giving it "mouseover" should be setting target to it |
| 23:27.41 | mckenziemc | unless you're just not allowed to auto-attack anything but your target |
| 23:27.47 | foxlit | it's not like anyone knows what StartAttack does :P |
| 23:27.49 | Semlar | it works the first time |
| 23:28.05 | Semlar | but once you have a target it only attempts to attack them |
| 23:28.34 | Unkle | Because you have a target. |
| 23:28.51 | Semlar | well yes, but if it takes a unit i would have thought that it would attack that unit |
| 23:28.52 | mckenziemc | attempting to auto-attack will pick up a target |
| 23:29.21 | Semlar | it appears to just prioritize your existing target over anything else |
| 23:29.27 | Unkle | Correct. |
| 23:29.33 | mckenziemc | i would expect that if there was another unit between you and your mouseover, it would grab the middle one |
| 23:29.53 | Semlar | no, it targets my mouseover |
| 23:30.18 | mckenziemc | you've tested that specific situation? |
| 23:30.39 | Semlar | i guarantee it's not just targeting whatever happens to be nearby |
| 23:31.00 | Unkle | there's a reason /cleartarget exists. ;p |
| 23:31.25 | Semlar | if you use /cleartarget it stops attacking and you have to use the macro twice |
| 23:32.06 | Unkle | Unless you turn off the option to stop auto-attacks on target switch. |
| 23:32.16 | Unkle | Or you pass /cleartarget some options. |
| 23:32.19 | Semlar | so far the only thing that actually works is /target [@mouseover,harm] /startattack [@mouseover,harm] |
| 23:32.45 | Unkle | That'll get you the behavior you seem to be after. |
| 23:33.29 | mckenziemc | why do you need the conditional on the second line |
| 23:33.45 | Semlar | because without a condition it will call startattack regardless |
| 23:34.03 | Semlar | and the macro shouldn't be starting an attack against my target |
| 23:34.58 | Semlar | if my mouseover isn't something i can attack but i'm targeting an attackable unit, it would attempt to autoattack my target |
| 23:35.06 | Unkle | I think I used "/cleartarget [dead,noharm] /startattack [@mouseover,harm,nodead]" but I don't particularly like mouseover targeting much, so it's been a while. |
| 23:35.08 | mckenziemc | so basically it's checking if your target is your target because it was originally just moused over |
| 23:35.53 | Semlar | it's just limiting /startattack to only execute if the first line actually targeted something |
| 23:36.02 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 23:36.42 | mckenziemc | gonna check if i had something like that in my macro set already and fix / add as necessary :p |
| 23:37.03 | Semlar | i shouldn't need "nodead" for this but i may as well add it |
| 23:37.13 | Semlar | the frames won't exist if the unit isn't alive |
| 23:37.17 | mckenziemc | harm implies nodead iirc |
| 23:37.24 | Semlar | i don't think it does |
| 23:37.25 | nebula | why would that be |
| 23:37.26 | Semlar | it implies exists |
| 23:37.30 | nebula | it can be dead andd hostile |
| 23:37.54 | mckenziemc | then you can't harm it, but i could be mistaken |
| 23:38.06 | Semlar | what is dead may never die mckenziemc |
| 23:38.19 | Predicate | You could probably just use a stopmacro conditional as the first line, if you want to make the logic clearer and reduce duplication. |
| 23:38.21 | Semlar | what if it's feigning |
| 23:38.41 | mckenziemc | is nodead going to work any better? |
| 23:38.47 | Semlar | no but you could attack it |
| 23:38.59 | Semlar | and the game would think it's dead |
| 23:39.03 | mckenziemc | but the point is that you don't know that |
| 23:40.06 | mckenziemc | can i uninstall and reinstall the battle.net launcher without messing up WoW, in order to fix the missing start menu folder? |
| 23:40.14 | Semlar | probably |
| 23:40.23 | Semlar | missing start menu folder? |
| 23:40.32 | Semlar | you can't just add a shortcut? |
| 23:41.07 | mckenziemc | i'm not sure which shortcut won't get changed every time the app updates |
| 23:41.26 | Predicate | Make one to Battle.net Launcher.exe |
| 23:41.33 | Predicate | It will always call the latest Battle.net.exe |
| 23:42.03 | Semlar | i just have the launcher pinned to my taskbar |
| 23:42.22 | mckenziemc | it kept complaining i was trying to launch an old version when i did that |
| 23:42.37 | Semlar | sounds like you did it wrong |
| 23:42.49 | mckenziemc | but that was because the taskbar icon that appears when you have the client running is the specific version |
| 23:42.59 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.11 | mckenziemc | i did it the most logical way to repair a faulty installation =/ |
| 23:43.20 | foxlit | fewyn: :( |
| 23:43.42 | Semlar | are your purchased items in japanese |
| 23:44.10 | Semlar | maybe their font doesn't support the characters |
| 23:44.10 | Predicate | Not sure how it works in Windows, but my ./battlenet script does: wine ${BNETPATH}/Battle.net\ Launcher.exe |
| 23:44.30 | Predicate | And that's worked for a couple expansions, so it seems unaffected by updates. |
| 23:44.52 | Semlar | that's all the start menu points to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Battle.net\Battle.net Launcher.exe" |
| 23:45.01 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: I think he just blanked out the phone's name |
| 23:45.07 | Semlar | oic |
| 23:45.21 | Gnarfoz | the popup doesn't tell you what particular "items" it's talking about |
| 23:45.24 | Semlar | maybe he should stop paying for things instead of pirating them |
| 23:45.27 | Gnarfoz | (which is one of the problems) |
| 23:45.57 | mckenziemc | i tried to have an icon pinned to the taskbar but it doesn't work because the launcher chains to a different executable |
| 23:46.24 | Semlar | all i did was right click on it in the taskbar and pin it |
| 23:46.26 | Gnarfoz | just go to the folder and drop an appropriate shortcut there? |
| 23:48.02 | mckenziemc | the folder is missing (separate problem) |
| 23:48.17 | mckenziemc | but it will cause two battle.net icons to show on the taskbar when it's running |
| 23:48.30 | Predicate | Uhh...yeah I would probably just reinstall Battle.net then. |
| 23:48.40 | Predicate | It sounds like you did something weird to your install. |
| 23:48.57 | Gnarfoz | your taskbar's userpinned folder is missing? |
| 23:49.13 | mckenziemc | huh? |
| 23:49.23 | Semlar | stop breaking things |
| 23:49.24 | Gnarfoz | you don't know which folder I was talking about, I guess |
| 23:49.37 | Gnarfoz | C:\Users\gnarf\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\User Pinned\TaskBar\ < that one |
| 23:49.45 | Gnarfoz | is where pinned shortcuts live |
| 23:50.04 | Gnarfoz | pin your running client, change the target & dest folder to point to bnet launcher instead of the specific version, done? |
| 23:50.05 | Predicate | What. How does Internet Explorer factor into this? |
| 23:50.16 | mckenziemc | no, the start menu folder from which i would get the "proper" battle.net shortcut, though if i'm mistaken that shortcut would be subject to the chained-executable problem |
| 23:50.20 | Gnarfoz | Predicate: mshtml is a base component of Windows? |
| 23:50.44 | Predicate | That's ridiculous. |
| 23:50.46 | Gnarfoz | mckenziemc: if you do what I say, you basically have a "proper" shortcut. cf. what Predicate said about her Linux shortcut |
| 23:51.00 | mckenziemc | changing the target won't work, because that exe closes and the other one start |
| 23:51.01 | mckenziemc | s |
| 23:51.07 | mckenziemc | but i'll try it again |
| 23:51.20 | Gnarfoz | doesn't work in what way? |
| 23:51.29 | Predicate | I'm not sure why that matters, if the right one ends up running in the end? |
| 23:51.40 | Gnarfoz | seems to me that it does |
| 23:52.12 | mckenziemc | i don't like having two separate icons in the taskbar |
| 23:52.24 | Gnarfoz | two separate icons for what? |
| 23:52.38 | Semlar | his launcher is showing up twice |
| 23:52.42 | Gnarfoz | why would it |
| 23:52.46 | mckenziemc | the generic launcher and the current version |
| 23:52.51 | Semlar | who knows |
| 23:52.55 | mckenziemc | because that's how the Win7 taskbar works |
| 23:52.59 | Semlar | no |
| 23:53.03 | Semlar | i have only one launcher showing |
| 23:53.09 | Semlar | so i have no idea why you have 2 |
| 23:53.10 | Gnarfoz | maybe get a recent version of Windows, then |
| 23:53.13 | foxlit | you pinned the version-specific exe, Semlar. |
| 23:53.19 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: way to rain on my parade! :p |
| 23:53.32 | Semlar | i have no idea what i have pinned |
| 23:53.33 | Gnarfoz | I get just one icon on win10 |
| 23:53.50 | mckenziemc | i shouldn't have to use windows 10 just to fix this |
| 23:53.56 | Semlar | it doesn't tell you when you right click on it |
| 23:53.56 | foxlit | right click on the icon, right click on battle.net desktop app, click "Properties" |
| 23:54.08 | Gnarfoz | maybe you should do what you initially suggested, then? |
| 23:54.16 | foxlit | then look at the location field. |
| 23:54.17 | Semlar | "C:\Program Files (x86)\Battle.net\Battle.net Launcher.exe" |
| 23:54.25 | mckenziemc | reinstalling? i don't think that will fix it |
| 23:54.27 | Predicate | Windows is confusing. |
| 23:54.30 | mckenziemc | but i'm working on it |
| 23:54.33 | Gnarfoz | no, mckenziemc is confused |
| 23:54.39 | Gnarfoz | or broken, or whatever |
| 23:54.39 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:54.56 | mckenziemc | *shrug* |
| 23:55.01 | Predicate | Why do you need buttons at all? can't you just use the start menu or whatever it is these days? |
| 23:55.10 | Gnarfoz | because you can? |
| 23:55.16 | Predicate | That way you're not wasting screen space 24/7 on something you only click once in a blue moon? |
| 23:55.20 | mckenziemc | too many clicks :) |
| 23:55.30 | Gnarfoz | it's wasted screen space anyhow, it's part of the taskbar |
| 23:55.49 | Predicate | Well that's a whole different issue :P |
| 23:55.58 | mckenziemc | but the start menu folder was missing sooooo |
| 23:56.02 | Gnarfoz | exactly: a non-issue! :D |
| 23:56.29 | Munk | Aw, man. Beta is still down. |
| 23:56.33 | Gnarfoz | of course it is |
| 23:57.14 | Gnarfoz | someone has probably timed it before, but beta builds take many hours ;P |
| 23:57.39 | Gnarfoz | what am I going to do with this pinned bnet launcher now, mckenziemc?! I blame you! |
| 23:57.46 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 23:57.55 | Predicate | They take approximately 30 minutes longer than you have patience for and/or other things to fill time with. |
| 23:58.07 | mckenziemc | at one time i had it almost constantly open so it was going to take the space regardless |
| 23:58.32 | Gnarfoz | I do have it open most of the time, too |
| 23:58.40 | Predicate | Do you guys not minimize it to systray or anything? |
| 23:58.42 | Gnarfoz | either it or the friend list |
| 23:59.01 | Gnarfoz | that's literally the definition of "have it open" |
| 23:59.15 | mckenziemc | well, 1 of 2 |
| 23:59.16 | Predicate | Yeah but it doesn't take up space on the taskbar then... |
| 23:59.23 | Gnarfoz | but it's also not open, then |
| 23:59.48 | Gnarfoz | and it's not like space on the taskbar is somehow precious or needs to be preserved :D that's what it exists for |
| 23:59.49 | Predicate | Why do you need it open, though? Are you watching the little news blurbs scroll by? :P |
