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| 00:10.50 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/Wow-64_2016-02-05_02-10-46.png |
| 00:10.53 | kullervo | that's new |
| 00:14.22 | fewyn | is it? |
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| 01:50.40 | karl_w_w | just arrived nevcairiel :P |
| 01:51.08 | karl_w_w | so my 13 hours prediction was 22 minutes too long |
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| 04:47.00 | Fisker | nominates Cairenn for the nobel peace prize and hugs Cairenn |
| 04:47.37 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 04:48.00 | Fisker | I think Cairenn deserves it better than trump |
| 04:48.09 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 04:57.07 | karl_w_w | woo |
| 04:57.23 | karl_w_w | ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.2 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home ** CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6600K CPU @ 3.50GHz (3.00 GHz) ** RAM: 16331 MB Total (14400 MB Free) ** VGA: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti ** Uptime: 0.02 Hours ** |
| 04:58.09 | karl_w_w | now the only problem that remains is that the gas has gone out of my chair lifter thing |
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| 05:05.03 | Aerugo | anyone here~? |
| 05:06.29 | Cairenn | nope |
| 05:07.00 | Aerugo | dat's sad :( |
| 05:07.07 | Cairenn | inorite?: |
| 05:07.31 | Aerugo | yeah... |
| 05:08.54 | Aerugo | i wanna ask some shit about my stupid handmade addon |
| 05:10.02 | Amarande | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.02 | Amarande | Connection ** Uptime: 1d 1h 25m 9s ** |
| 05:10.45 | Amarande | karl_w_w: yeah those pneumatic lift chairs have a bad habit of getting stuck in the low position eventually :( |
| 05:12.11 | Cairenn | Ask away Aerugo, if anyone can help they will :) |
| 05:12.41 | Aerugo | sweet :D |
| 05:13.50 | Aerugo | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20741994059 |
| 05:13.59 | Aerugo | I have written my questions here |
| 05:14.01 | Aerugo | so basically |
| 05:14.17 | Aerugo | I am having issues with my frame and animation widget |
| 05:14.29 | Aerugo | http://upload2.inven.co.kr/upload/2016/02/05/bbs/i11374340392.gif |
| 05:15.02 | Aerugo | as you can see on this .gif, my energy text frame jumps back to its original position |
| 05:15.12 | Aerugo | while its animating a translation |
| 05:16.00 | Aerugo | and comes back to its new position as well |
| 05:16.50 | Aerugo | I guess this is happening due to clash between frame's OnUpdate event and animation widget, but ain't sure where it is exactly causing from. |
| 05:19.54 | Aerugo | Does anyone have a clue on why this is happening? :D |
| 05:20.35 | Simca | i know nothing about animations |
| 05:20.50 | Simca | foxlit and Semlar and some other regulars probably know things |
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| 05:25.23 | Aerugo | all good :D |
| 05:25.36 | Aerugo | thank you anyways, Simca! |
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| 05:41.57 | Aerugo | Looks like everyone is sleeping :D |
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| 07:50.02 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: mine just entered the delivery truck, so "soon" |
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| 07:51.03 | karl_w_w | i hope im not about to go to war with newegg support |
| 07:51.18 | nevcairiel | is it broke |
| 07:51.32 | karl_w_w | no, but I'm wondering where my free rise of the tomb raider is |
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| 07:55.50 | karl_w_w | they're probably not going to be equipped to meet australian consumer standards so I'm wondering how much of a battle it's going to take |
| 07:56.31 | karl_w_w | if they're going to go with "it wasn't mentioned at checkout" they're going to have a bad time |
| 08:02.00 | karl_w_w | "That offer is available on Newegg.com, not Australia." |
| 08:02.07 | karl_w_w | newegg.com operated in australia |
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| 08:02.12 | karl_w_w | operates* |
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| 08:02.30 | karl_w_w | I wonder how much effort I'm willing to put into this |
| 08:02.42 | nevcairiel | you wont win anyway |
| 08:03.13 | karl_w_w | saying things like that will definitely increase the effort I'm willing to put in, just to prove you wrong :P |
| 08:03.22 | nevcairiel | thats my goal |
| 08:03.25 | nevcairiel | waste more time! |
| 08:03.25 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 08:03.30 | karl_w_w | http://www.geforce.com/games-applications/pc-games/rise-of-the-tomb-raider/bundle/terms http://promotions.newegg.com/nvidia/15-6817/index.html |
| 08:03.36 | karl_w_w | those 2 things are plenty |
| 08:04.23 | Fisker | there's no code for APAC karl_w_w |
| 08:04.32 | karl_w_w | whats an apac |
| 08:04.33 | Fisker | you need to get a code from the manufacturer |
| 08:04.38 | Fisker | Asia Pacific whatever |
| 08:04.45 | karl_w_w | ah |
| 08:04.45 | Fisker | Who made your card karl_w_w ? |
| 08:04.50 | karl_w_w | evga |
| 08:05.00 | karl_w_w | they only give codes for cards sold on their site |
| 08:05.18 | Fisker | https://www.evga.com/articles/00977/Rise-of-The-Tomb-Raider/ |
| 08:05.26 | Fisker | oh rekt then |
| 08:05.47 | Fisker | Should've getten a card from a vendor that isn't the worst piece of shit on this earth then |
| 08:06.00 | nevcairiel | or actually on the same continent =p |
| 08:06.13 | Fisker | but try anyway karl_w_w |
| 08:06.41 | Fisker | But you can see here: https://gaming.msi.com/promotion/rise-of-the-tomb-raider |
| 08:06.52 | Fisker | If it's not APAC you get a code with the retailer |
| 08:07.12 | Fisker | but in APAC you need to register the product with them and then you get the code |
| 08:07.15 | Fisker | same with asus and gigabyte |
| 08:07.23 | Fisker | apparently not evga because they're shit like usual |
| 08:08.37 | Fisker | I tried to get a code from my vendor since it turned out you could just register random cards and claim you purchased them within the promotion period |
| 08:08.42 | Fisker | now my account with them doesn't work anymore |
| 08:08.44 | Fisker | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 08:09.52 | karl_w_w | good times |
| 08:09.57 | nevcairiel | i got witcher3 after the fact for my titan earlier this year, that was a nice offer from nvidia |
| 08:10.32 | nevcairiel | earlier last year actually |
| 08:10.34 | nevcairiel | i r confused |
| 08:11.30 | karl_w_w | ooh ooh |
| 08:11.35 | karl_w_w | evga have an australian site |
| 08:11.57 | karl_w_w | WE DID IT |
| 08:12.38 | karl_w_w | man that was a hard site to find |
| 08:15.10 | karl_w_w | and Fisker helped! |
| 08:15.25 | karl_w_w | that can't be a common phrase :P |
| 08:43.46 | Aerugo | Newbie got a question here! Is it possible to access a frame created via XML on LUA? |
| 08:53.07 | mitch0 | yes |
| 08:55.28 | Aerugo | How does that work? |
| 08:55.52 | Aerugo | I have my XML file connected with LUA file by <Script file="test.lua"> |
| 08:56.28 | Aerugo | and created frame by <Frame name="testFrame"> </Frame> |
| 08:56.34 | mitch0 | the frame has a name, it's available as a global in the script by that name (AFAIR, it's been a while, and I never really used xml ;) |
| 08:57.47 | Aerugo | but I actually tried to print the frame by print(testFrame); in LUA and expected it to print "table: address" thing but it printed nil instead :( |
| 09:00.09 | mitch0 | sounds like your xml didn't load |
| 09:00.16 | mitch0 | it ought to work as you tried |
| 09:00.56 | Aerugo | hm I'm pretty sure it is loaded |
| 09:01.21 | Aerugo | cause I printed a local variable created inside <OnLoad> </OnLoad> and it worked |
| 09:01.43 | Aerugo | <OnLoad> local test = 1; print(test) </OnLoad> |
| 09:05.59 | mitch0 | there's a file with xml errors, check that out |
| 09:06.31 | karl_w_w | this is why people don't use xml :P |
| 09:06.34 | karl_w_w | well, one of the reasons |
| 09:09.14 | Aerugo | where can I find a file, please? |
| 09:09.49 | mitch0 | \Logs\FrameXML.log |
| 09:09.58 | Aerugo | assume thx :D |
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| 09:15.32 | Aerugo | doesn't seem to have an error with my own files :( |
| 09:16.45 | Gethe | the print dosn't work because the lua is loaded before the frame is created in xml |
| 09:17.14 | Gethe | try /dump print(testFrame) |
| 09:17.22 | Gethe | in game |
| 09:18.00 | Gethe | Aerugo ^ |
| 09:21.59 | Aerugo | okay it seems to be working with /dump |
| 09:22.03 | Aerugo | god |
| 09:22.06 | Aerugo | XML is damn hard... |
| 09:24.22 | Gnarfoz | which is why we avoid it like the plague :D |
| 09:28.49 | Aerugo | do majority of ppl hate using XML? |
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| 09:42.58 | Gnarfoz | I bet foxlit has data to elaborate on that |
| 09:43.27 | Gnarfoz | but my impression is certainly that, yeah. since you don't need to use it at all |
| 09:43.42 | Aerugo | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 09:44.09 | Aerugo | I would like to have a chat with person who can teach me with animation widget then |
| 09:44.30 | Aerugo | If I can skip over XML |
| 09:50.06 | Aerugo | I wanna talk with foxlit guy... |
| 09:50.09 | Aerugo | where is he :( |
| 09:50.50 | Aerugo | He could be ma super hero |
| 09:52.45 | Gnarfoz | he's out doing super-heroy things |
| 09:53.34 | Gnarfoz | and that was more of an inside joke, considering he has made other analyses based on a corpus of "everything on curse.com" |
| 09:53.55 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. "how many people actually use XML vs. just creating the stuff from Lua) |
| 09:54.10 | Gethe | I've done use anim widgets in pure lua a few times. Here is some of that code https://github.com/RealUI/RealUI/blob/develop/Interface/AddOns/nibRealUI_Config/Config.lua#L135 |
| 09:54.49 | Gethe | i wouldn't say i know it though |
| 09:58.41 | Gethe | it's late for me though, so im going to bed |
| 09:58.53 | Aerugo | bye :( |
| 09:59.07 | Aerugo | I actually utilized animation widget |
| 09:59.10 | Aerugo | and it worked fine |
| 09:59.29 | Aerugo | but it performs some kind of stupid actions |
| 09:59.39 | Aerugo | http://upload2.inven.co.kr/upload/2016/02/05/bbs/i11374340392.gif |
| 09:59.45 | Aerugo | check this out. |
| 10:01.48 | Aerugo | I think this is happening due to clash between OnUpdate event and animation, but ain't sure exactly where it is happening though :( |
| 10:04.27 | Aerugo | the frame translates well to the left side when the target is selected and jumps back to the original position when the target is deselected |
| 10:05.28 | Aerugo | However, the problem is that when the energy text is updated via OnUpdate event, it randomly blinks between the original position and its new x-pos determined by animation :( |
| 10:05.56 | Gnarfoz | certainly sounds like multiple things are modifying the position |
| 10:06.16 | Gnarfoz | seems like something that should be able to be traced back to some SetPoint calls? |
| 10:06.16 | Aerugo | that's what I thought so |
| 10:06.25 | Aerugo | hm |
| 10:06.43 | nevcairiel | note that animations dont actually change the position, they just "transform" the presentation |
| 10:07.18 | Gnarfoz | now that you mention it, I remember that, too :D |
| 10:07.21 | Aerugo | yeah I understand that |
| 10:07.27 | Aerugo | and |
| 10:07.29 | Aerugo | about setpoint |
| 10:07.55 | Aerugo | it does only have setpoint at the start of lua file and OnFinished event for animation |
| 10:08.02 | Aerugo | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20741994059 |
| 10:08.13 | Aerugo | Please refer to the last reply that I made |
| 10:08.23 | Aerugo | if u guys are happy to have a look at my stupid codes :D |
| 10:08.45 | Aerugo | I mean the second last comment lel |
| 10:09.45 | nevcairiel | the font system is live wow is kinda stupid though, wouldnt surprise me if it just clashes with animations somewhere |
| 10:09.58 | nevcairiel | presumably they are changing a lot of the font stuff for legion |
| 10:10.09 | Aerugo | damn |
| 10:10.21 | Aerugo | new stuff to learn :( |
| 10:10.44 | nevcairiel | should be mostly internals on how wow handles that, not new API |
| 10:10.55 | Aerugo | oh |
| 10:11.03 | Aerugo | that's great haha |
| 10:11.23 | Gnarfoz | ancient things getting improved |
| 10:11.48 | Gnarfoz | I bet the font system hadn't been touched for the last 12 years before this |
| 10:12.30 | Aerugo | btw what happened to NAMEPLATE_FONT? |
| 10:12.37 | Aerugo | it seems not working now days D: |
| 10:13.04 | nevcairiel | i think it got changed |
| 10:13.42 | Aerugo | was trying to search for it and could've not found any D: |
| 10:15.30 | Aerugo | does anyone have any clues regarding my stupid animation widget issue~? |
| 10:15.42 | Aerugo | been working on it for a whole day QQ |
| 10:17.59 | nevcairiel | it looks like one of those quirks where you spend days on just to figure out that its a bug in the game, and you would only know if you ever ran into it =p |
| 10:18.35 | nevcairiel | I don't see anything wrong with it that would cause this legitimately |
| 10:19.08 | Aerugo | hm.... |
| 10:19.39 | Aerugo | there was a guy called "Gello" who has been replying on that thread and he also told me that |
| 10:19.52 | Aerugo | there was no issue on his PC |
| 10:20.08 | Aerugo | as well |
| 10:20.09 | Aerugo | MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM |
| 10:21.53 | Aerugo | JEEZ |
| 10:21.56 | Aerugo | this is so annoying... |
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| 12:06.58 | Gnarfoz | after TrumpDonald's huge success, may I present the next step in ridicule: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/trump2voldemort/afaegmcdokcokkbaijmchbnocnfpmibn |
| 12:08.26 | nevcairiel | sounds appropriate |
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| 12:13.42 | Semlar | Aerugo: are you sure you don't have another script somewhere affecting your resource string |
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| 12:26.58 | nevcairiel | karl_w_w: stuff arrived =p |
| 12:32.50 | Semlar | Aerugo: nevermind, as far as i can tell every time you call SetText on the fontstring it shows it back in its original position while an animation is playing |
| 12:33.47 | nevcairiel | that was what I would've guessed to happen |
| 12:33.58 | nevcairiel | like i mentioned, fonts and animations clashing :) |
| 12:34.10 | Semlar | that's a bug i've never seen before, but i also can't think of any time i've tried changing a font string while it was animating |
| 12:35.21 | karl_w_w | nice nevcairiel :P |
| 12:35.21 | Semlar | you might have to manually animate the position OnUpdate |
| 12:39.11 | Aerugo | so u mean that I cannot use animation widget in this case? |
| 12:39.17 | Aerugo | on this case* |
| 12:39.17 | Semlar | i sure wouldn't |
| 12:39.21 | Aerugo | hm... |
| 12:39.48 | Semlar | you're going to spend more time trying to figure out if you even can than if you stopped here and rewrote it using OnUpdate |
| 12:40.43 | Semlar | if you try to animate a string and call SetText on it every frame, it will never move |
| 12:41.08 | Semlar | it appears to force it to redraw it at its original position |
| 12:41.34 | Aerugo | arggggg.... |
| 12:42.33 | nevcairiel | can only hope legion fixes that :D |
| 12:43.47 | Semlar | Aerugo: http://pastebin.com/iJUJ1qjq here's the script i wrote if you want to see it |
| 12:44.08 | Aerugo | sweet! |
| 12:44.15 | Aerugo | I'm definitely going to see it |
| 12:44.43 | Semlar | it won't move at all unless you uncomment the if statement in OnUpdate |
| 12:45.32 | Aerugo | let me test it on my client :D |
| 12:47.16 | Aerugo | Semlar: So, is same issue happening on your PC as well? |
| 12:47.50 | Semlar | yes |
| 12:48.00 | Aerugo | damn Blizzard |
| 12:48.05 | Aerugo | what's goin on :( |
| 12:48.33 | nevcairiel | moving it by yourself in an OnUpdate isnt that hard, so just shelve the animation idea and use manual animations |
| 12:48.33 | Semlar | well, like i said, it probably redraws the string when you call SetText on it and it doesn't take animations into account |
| 12:49.27 | Semlar | the order it does that in is probably overriding the animation's position |
| 12:49.29 | Aerugo | mmmmmmmm |
| 12:50.13 | Semlar | anyway, it doesn't matter why it doesn't work, you'll have to find another way to do it |
| 12:50.20 | Aerugo | So, I should be hoping Blizzard to fix this issue on Legion like nevairiel sai |
| 12:50.27 | Aerugo | arrrrrggh |
| 12:50.27 | nevcairiel | its possible |
| 12:50.32 | nevcairiel | its also possible it wont be fixed |
| 12:50.34 | Aerugo | i'm too lazy :( |
| 12:50.48 | Aerugo | it's like 50:50 |
| 12:50.51 | Semlar | it's not that complicated to change the position yourself |
| 12:50.56 | Aerugo | D: |
| 12:51.02 | Aerugo | maybe 49:51 |
| 12:51.11 | Aerugo | I can do it |
| 12:51.18 | Aerugo | but getting lazy these days |
| 12:51.19 | Aerugo | :( |
| 12:51.26 | Semlar | you just decide how much you want it to move over time and keep track of how much time has elapsed |
| 12:51.47 | Aerugo | maybe |
| 12:51.53 | Aerugo | I just need to go sleep first |
| 12:51.53 | Aerugo | true! |
| 12:52.29 | Aerugo | b4 I go |
| 12:52.34 | Semlar | well, alternatively you could just never call SetText on it while it's animating |
| 12:52.36 | Aerugo | could I ask some questions? |
| 12:52.49 | Aerugo | apart from this animation thing |
| 12:53.02 | Semlar | that would be the lazy way to do it |
| 12:53.08 | Aerugo | yeah that could be an another option as well |
| 12:54.15 | Aerugo | about the frame in general |
| 12:54.51 | Aerugo | I have been told that you should have a size and anchor set for parent frame in order to display its child component (or child object). |
| 12:55.08 | Aerugo | Is there any possible way to set the size of parent frame to fit its child object? |
| 12:55.52 | Semlar | yes, you'd just need to set the position of the child object relative to something other than the parent |
| 12:56.13 | Semlar | so instead of moving the parent you need to move the child |
| 12:56.26 | Semlar | then you can anchor the parent to the child |
| 12:57.12 | Aerugo | So the process would be |
| 12:57.28 | Aerugo | 1. set relativeFrame of child object to something other than the parent |
| 12:57.42 | Aerugo | 2. Set parent's anchor to the child |
| 12:57.44 | Aerugo | Am i getting it rightr? |
| 12:58.15 | Semlar | yeah, if you try to anchor the child to the parent and then anchor the parent to the child it creates a loop that errors out |
| 12:58.57 | Semlar | it doesn't really matter what relation the two frames are to each other, you can't anchor one frame to another frame that relies on the first frame's position |
| 13:00.08 | Aerugo | I see |
| 13:00.17 | Aerugo | hm |
| 13:00.34 | Aerugo | and does it change the size of parent frame as well? |
| 13:02.12 | Semlar | if you anchor part of your frame to something that moves then it moves that part of your frame with it |
| 13:02.50 | Aerugo | I got it |
| 13:02.52 | Aerugo | thx a lot :D |
| 13:03.00 | Semlar | you can think of an anchor as pinning that part of your frame to the other frame |
| 13:03.22 | Aerugo | yeap! |
| 13:03.28 | Aerugo | that makes much more sense :D |
| 13:03.45 | Semlar | whether or not your frame resizes or moves with the frame it's anchored to depends on its other anchors |
| 13:04.19 | Semlar | if your frame is a set size like 100 x 100 and you only anchor one corner of it to another frame, it's just going to move with that frame |
| 13:05.06 | Semlar | but if your frame's top left corner is anchored to the screen's top left corner and you anchor its bottom right corner to something that's moving then its top left stays where it is and its bottom right moves around |
| 13:05.34 | Aerugo | that's just amazing |
| 13:05.41 | Aerugo | I never knew that b4 |
| 13:05.47 | Aerugo | god |
| 13:06.04 | Aerugo | I can feel that I'm getting more knowledges :D |
| 13:07.10 | Aerugo | Thx a lot Semlar! |
| 13:07.18 | Semlar | alright i figured out a hack to change the font string while it's animating |
| 13:07.32 | Aerugo | OMG |
| 13:07.34 | Aerugo | WHAT |
| 13:07.41 | Semlar | if you hide the string before calling SetText on it and then show it afterward it doesn't break |
| 13:07.59 | Semlar | honestly i wouldn't rely on that but whatever |
| 13:08.56 | Aerugo | so hide before SetText and show after SetText, right? |
| 13:09.52 | Semlar | http://pastebin.com/0V8HRUDL |
| 13:10.23 | Aerugo | wow.... |
| 13:10.24 | Semlar | this still has some weird behavior but i don't think it's going to do that with your script |
| 13:10.43 | Aerugo | assume! |
| 13:11.05 | Aerugo | i'll use it as a temporary fix |
| 13:11.12 | Aerugo | going to start fixing OnUpdate method tomorrow |
| 13:11.15 | Aerugo | :D |
| 13:12.16 | Semlar | yeah the weird behavior i'm seeing isn't from changing the text, it's just not animating my bounce properly |
| 13:12.45 | Semlar | which is another reason not to use animations |
| 13:12.59 | Aerugo | damn animation widget |
| 13:13.10 | Semlar | they aren't very reliable |
| 13:14.12 | Semlar | it's occasionally blinking over to the left, way outside where it should be |
| 13:14.35 | Aerugo | yeah I just realized that |
| 13:14.57 | Aerugo | but still better than previous one :D |
| 13:15.28 | Semlar | i think it's a bug from the bounce animation, when it starts reversing it's drawing the first frame at the wrong offset |
| 13:15.59 | nevcairiel | alpha and scale animations seem to generally work OKish, but translation is all kinds of quirky |
| 13:16.30 | Semlar | it's about -200 pixels off from where it should be, which is what its translation offset is set to |
| 13:16.33 | Aerugo | and i'm using that quirky translation thing :( |
| 13:16.46 | Aerugo | D: |
| 13:17.03 | Semlar | but that wouldn't happen with your animation because it doesn't repeat |
| 13:17.22 | Aerugo | Right |
| 13:17.22 | Semlar | ..probably |
| 13:17.23 | Aerugo | which is good for me :D |
| 13:17.31 | Aerugo | mmmmm... |
| 13:17.48 | Aerugo | OOO |
| 13:17.59 | Aerugo | here's one real last question |
| 13:18.04 | Aerugo | b4 i go bed |
| 13:18.37 | Aerugo | Is it possible to choose which animation to play within an AnimationGroup? |
| 13:19.12 | Aerugo | I have two translation animation within one AnimationGroup |
| 13:19.39 | Aerugo | I thought that GetAnimations() would do a trick |
| 13:19.44 | Aerugo | but it didn't really help me out :( |
| 13:19.45 | Semlar | you should be able to just call :Play() on a specific animation |
| 13:20.35 | Semlar | i don't know, normally you animate the entire group |
| 13:20.48 | Semlar | i wouldn't try animating them separately |
| 13:21.06 | Semlar | if you want different animations just make another animation group |
| 13:21.56 | Aerugo | what I'm trying to do is that |
| 13:22.05 | Aerugo | when player selects a target |
| 13:22.20 | Aerugo | a frame is going to slide to the left |
| 13:22.28 | Aerugo | and when player deselects a target |
| 13:22.39 | Aerugo | which means no target is selected |
| 13:22.41 | Semlar | if you want to do something complicated you should almost definitely make your own animations using OnUpdate |
| 13:22.48 | Aerugo | the frame slides to the right |
| 13:22.52 | Aerugo | hm |
| 13:22.53 | Aerugo | i see |
| 13:23.24 | Semlar | the animation system is so quirky that the odds of not running into unexpected behavior is slim |
| 13:23.38 | Aerugo | :( |
| 13:24.39 | nevcairiel | there is one fun fact about animations, all frames you want to animate need a global name, or it will weird out on you, despite the API accepting frame references |
| 13:25.18 | Aerugo | D: |
| 13:25.21 | Aerugo | alright |
| 13:25.25 | Semlar | really? |
| 13:25.44 | Aerugo | I'm definitely going to start focusing on OnUpdate from tomorrow |
| 13:25.52 | nevcairiel | it will kind of animate without the global names as well |
| 13:25.57 | nevcairiel | but it wont do the right things always |
| 13:26.06 | Semlar | i never animate anything with a global name but i hardly ever use animations |
| 13:26.37 | nevcairiel | i tried to rebuild one of blizzards xml defined animations in Lua, and I figured, why assign names, i have references |
| 13:26.38 | Semlar | i just do small things like pop up an icon that fades out |
| 13:26.46 | nevcairiel | and it took me a while to figure out why it didnt look the same |
| 13:27.16 | nevcairiel | so now every texture has a name! |
| 13:30.07 | Semlar | Aerugo: you can call SetOffset on your translation to switch its direction but you might have to reanchor it |
| 13:34.15 | Semlar | i'm out of waffles neffi |
| 13:43.39 | Simca | Neffi isn't around, but don't worry Semlar; I can be your Neffi |
| 13:43.59 | Semlar | i'm out of waffles simca |
| 13:44.04 | Semlar | what do i do |
| 13:44.45 | Semlar | maybe torhal has some |
| 13:45.05 | Simca | steals Torhal's waffles and gives them to Semlar |
| 13:45.20 | Semlar | but these are covered in cat hair |
| 13:46.00 | Simca | true |
| 14:24.40 | Gnarfoz | besides that, they're also covered in cats |
| 14:27.13 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:29.31 | nevcairiel | and one of those isnt loaded |
| 14:29.32 | nevcairiel | so? |
| 14:29.32 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 14:29.32 | foxlit | (which ordinarily wouldn't matter, but I kind of merge those directories for no good reason, and having multiple files for one destination was annoying the sync script) |
| 14:30.26 | Simca | i would guess they're both loaded |
| 14:30.47 | foxlit | well, one is presumably loaded by glue, the other by frame. |
| 14:30.48 | nevcairiel | FrameXML.toc doesnt load SharedXML/HybridScrollFrame |
| 14:31.17 | nevcairiel | i suppose glue might, who knows |
| 14:31.22 | nevcairiel | too lazy to check! |
| 14:32.23 | Simca | weird |
| 14:32.35 | Simca | SharedXML exists purely so they can load a file in Glue and then Frame |
| 14:32.51 | Simca | and not write the same code twice |
| 14:32.51 | nevcairiel | maybe the planned to use it and copied it over, but it never came to be |
| 14:32.56 | foxlit | someone was just interrupted in the process of moving it. |
| 14:33.23 | nevcairiel | it only exists in SharedXML on beta, so it might still change in the next build |
| 14:33.29 | Gnarfoz | XXX HACK FINISH LATER |
| 14:33.39 | Semlar | fix never |
| 14:34.55 | Gnarfoz | well, if the font system upgrades are any indication, maybe "fix in a decade" |
| 14:35.40 | Simca | my favorite is still the lua file where they changed 'temp hack, fix in 5 years' to 'temp hack, fix in 10 years' |
| 14:36.14 | nevcairiel | i think the wording was different |
| 14:36.35 | nevcairiel | it said "temp hack" at first, then "temp hack (temp meaning 5 years)" and then updated to 10 with legion i think |
| 14:36.52 | Simca | yeah sounds right |
| 14:37.08 | nevcairiel | temporary hacks are those that last the longest |
| 14:38.53 | karl_w_w | wow that is so smart |
| 14:39.34 | karl_w_w | when a program crashes and wont let you see task manager, use narrator to navigate task manager and kill the process |
| 14:40.06 | Simca | what's the shortcut to trigger narrator? |
| 14:41.33 | karl_w_w | win + enter |
| 14:46.10 | Semlar | why would you be able to use anything if your computer is locked up to the point where you can't use the task manager |
| 14:51.44 | Simca | it's a frequent gaming issue - if the game that is locked up is fullscreen, and task manager spawns behind the game window, you won't be able to access it, even with alt-tab (alt-tab relies on fullscreen games to yield, which they won't do if locked up) |
| 15:03.28 | nevcairiel | its usually fine on a multi-screen system, just bring it up on the other one |
| 15:07.45 | Simca | you can't pick where task manager spawns? |
| 15:08.24 | nevcairiel | but if its in focus, you can use Win-ArrowKeys to move it |
| 15:08.43 | Simca | ahh, i didn't know about that either |
| 15:08.44 | Simca | nice |
| 15:09.27 | Semlar | i'm surprised task manager wouldn't just show up on top |
| 15:10.17 | nevcairiel | some games are very persistent |
| 15:10.48 | Simca | yeah don't have enough windows specific programming experience to tell you why |
| 15:11.46 | Simca | betheseda games are classic offenders - GL getting Fallout New Vegas to end task when it (inevitably) crashes |
| 15:12.28 | Semlar | inevitably crashes simca |
| 15:16.24 | Gnarfoz | it does have keyboard focus, though |
| 15:16.29 | Gnarfoz | or, whatever you start does |
| 15:16.44 | Simca | yes |
| 15:16.56 | Gnarfoz | so typing "win+r" followed by 'taskkill /f /im "game binary.exe"' will also work |
| 15:17.10 | Simca | i once had to close new vegas with only keyboard focus on task manager |
| 15:17.13 | Gnarfoz | (no, I don't know this from first-hand experience, no no no) |
| 15:17.52 | Simca | it took me like 3-4 minutes to do because i had no idea what field was focused first |
| 15:18.58 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's the issue when doing stuff like that |
| 15:19.16 | Gnarfoz | also nice: changing desktop resolution to something your only monitor can't display |
| 15:19.35 | Gnarfoz | in ages before there was a "does this look ok? if not, we'll revert in 15... 14... 13..." popup |
| 15:19.57 | Simca | so, like win 95 |
| 15:19.57 | Gnarfoz | (or fatfingering OK on that one right away after changing settings) |
| 15:30.00 | Gnarfoz | Simca: yea |
| 16:04.49 | mckenziemc | i seem to remember primarily having my first computer's power button set to hibernate so that when a game misbehaved in a way i couldn't fix, i would hibernate, restart, and the game would be minimized and killable |
| 16:10.56 | Gnarfoz | an interesting hack :D |
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| 16:41.56 | Shirik | some day at work, I'm going to tell people to do something a certain way, and they're going to just do it without giving me backtalk about how it's "hard to do it that way" |
| 16:42.24 | Shirik | maybe we can negotiate. If they want to do it the easy way they can take a pay cut. |
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| 16:48.55 | fewyn | sigh my vacuum sealer isn't working anymore there's a a leak somewhere in it and it's not on the gasket so i think it's in the internals... and if it doesn't get a good enough vacuum it won't "seal" |
| 17:11.10 | fewyn | i really wish some of these open source projects that have been around for (forever) would move the heck off sourceforge... it seems to be down again |
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| 17:12.53 | Amarande | fewyn: not to mention that lame spyware installer, although I've been lucky enough not to actually get stuck with it |
| 17:13.16 | Amarande | mostly because most sf projects I've been interested in I'm either downloading for linux as source code or they aren't actually executable programs at all |
| 17:13.47 | Amarande | there must be some major incentive given to people to use the bloody thing :| |
| 17:16.11 | karl_w_w | I miss radeon settings already |
| 17:16.41 | fewyn | what's wrong karl_w_w ? |
| 17:17.32 | karl_w_w | nvidia control panel is just not nice :P |
| 17:17.57 | fewyn | ah |
| 17:17.57 | Amarande | s/nvidia control panel is just not nice/nvidia is just not nice/ |
| 17:18.30 | Amarande | in fact, nvidia spends quite a lot of R&D money on not being nice, heh |
| 17:18.59 | Amarande | think about it ... considering the diagonal paradigm of performance among video cards across generations |
| 17:19.21 | Amarande | performance wise they probably really only need to release one or two new GPUs each gen, and then save money like AMD does by rebadging for the rest of the line |
| 17:19.55 | Amarande | but then they wouldn't be so readily able to fuck over AMD with crap like hairworks that runs like shit on anything but the latest gen nvidia |
| 17:21.38 | Amarande | otoh, nvidia has those nice shorty model 960 and 970 units, while if I want to do that with AMD I pretty much have to shell out $600 for a fury nano |
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| 18:13.06 | fewyn | https://archive.org/details/malwaremuseum?sort=-publicdate |
| 18:13.09 | fewyn | this is cool |
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| 22:14.44 | fewyn | http://www.ticketmaster.com/the-legend-of-zelda-symphony-of-columbus-ohio-04-03-2016/event/05004EABB347362B?artistid=1741094&majorcatid=10002&minorcatid=53 debating if i want to go to this |
| 22:15.11 | bshelden | One of these days I'll catch that when It's active in Vancouver |
| 22:17.16 | fewyn | 38$ for seats in the far back |
| 22:17.22 | fewyn | or 59$ towards the front |
| 22:17.41 | bshelden | Seems reasonable for a rare night out. |
| 22:18.32 | fewyn | problem is i'd have to call off work |
| 22:18.34 | fewyn | to go |
| 22:18.48 | fewyn | but i've never seen something like this before |
| 22:18.56 | fewyn | and i never go to concerts and things |
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| 22:26.02 | bshelden | Well, that sounds like a pretty good way to get your feet wet for a live concert. I have no regrets for the similar things I've done. |
| 22:26.09 | bshelden | It does add up so I keep it rare (Once or so a year) |
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| 23:32.11 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/shanselman/status/695738082209853440/photo/1 |
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| 23:41.40 | Aerugo | I finally made an animation via OnUpdate |
| 23:41.41 | Aerugo | http://pastebin.com/Qu6hyWrc |
| 23:42.08 | Aerugo | But on Line# 91~95, it uses some kind of cheat... |
| 23:42.18 | fewyn | pretty sure my video card fans are going out |
| 23:42.20 | fewyn | i just booted up star citizen and my computer started to sound like a jet engine |
| 23:42.34 | Aerugo | ewwwww |
| 23:43.13 | Stanzilla | fewyn: http://www.nivot.org/blog/post/2016/02/04/Windows-10-TH2-%28v1511%29-Console-Host-Enhancements |
| 23:44.12 | fewyn | why don't they just replace cmd.exe with powershell |
| 23:44.17 | fewyn | or smush them together |
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| 23:46.26 | Stanzilla | because it doesnt matter |
| 23:46.30 | Stanzilla | they use the same conhost |
| 23:46.39 | Stanzilla | and they are adding the features to that so both can use it |
| 23:53.19 | mckenziemc | that may have been an independent comment |
