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| 00:15.10 | emihir0 | If i wanted to record what is being said in /2 trade channel, what events/functions would be appropriate? |
| 00:16.04 | emihir0 | i guess http://wow.gamepedia.com/Events/C#CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL is the event |
| 00:17.27 | emihir0 | i'd like to create an addon that will record what's been said in trade channel and/or can look out for items being mentioned (e.g. you are interested in buying something, so you tell the addon to look for it and save the message containing such item + author) |
| 00:17.35 | mckenziemc | "Periodically crashes, which is nice as it allows me to do things like go outside and eat and not look at trains." |
| 00:17.41 | mckenziemc | hmm... |
| 00:22.27 | emihir0 | when an event has associated arguments |
| 00:22.44 | emihir0 | like CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL has arg1 = chat msg |
| 00:22.46 | emihir0 | etc |
| 00:23.06 | emihir0 | how do you use them without having to list all of them |
| 00:23.22 | emihir0 | for example this event has 12 arguments... |
| 00:23.38 | emihir0 | f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, arg1..arg12) |
| 00:23.41 | emihir0 | can something liek this be done? |
| 00:25.11 | emihir0 | (i meant arg1..arg12 instead of arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9, arg10, arg11, arg12) |
| 00:26.45 | foxlit | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.9 |
| 00:37.12 | Semlar | you can't expect someone to read all those words foxlit |
| 00:37.20 | Semlar | look how many there are |
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| 00:39.42 | emihir0 | ... i've read it, but i'm not 100% sure i got it correctly |
| 00:44.16 | Semlar | that makes one of us |
| 00:47.17 | emihir0 | when i use the msg arg of CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL |
| 00:47.39 | emihir0 | i can't use string.find(msg, <itemlink>) |
| 00:48.13 | emihir0 | basically i want to make an if statement where if the 'what we are looking for' is in the msg, do something with it (ie. store it) |
| 00:48.34 | emihir0 | i can use string.find(msg, 'what we are looking for') for regular string, like 'WTS' |
| 00:48.59 | Semlar | hyperlinks have markup you probably aren't accounting for |
| 00:48.59 | emihir0 | but when i put item link there, it doesn't exactly work. i put it there through ingame slash (shift-click link) |
| 00:49.17 | emihir0 | but i expected the msg to have it too, because you can click on it after all |
| 00:49.38 | emihir0 | if i simply print(msg), it gives me hyperlink i can click on in the console |
| 00:51.56 | emihir0 | ok so if i hard-type Vial of the Sands (example) into the slash command, it can find it in the msg |
| 00:52.05 | foxlit | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.find |
| 00:52.08 | emihir0 | (ie. it works if i type the item instead of linking it) |
| 00:52.59 | foxlit | hands Semlar a [Book With Words In It]. |
| 00:53.07 | Semlar | no, anything but that! |
| 00:53.59 | emihir0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:54.25 | foxlit | string.dump is a myth. |
| 00:54.39 | emihir0 | =( |
| 00:54.50 | foxlit | (which is to say it doesn't exist in wow since 5.0) |
| 00:54.53 | emihir0 | so how can i see the msg in plaintext ingame |
| 00:54.54 | Semlar | i think he wants to use the /dump command |
| 00:55.12 | emihir0 | well i know i can use /dump function() ingame |
| 00:55.25 | emihir0 | but i'd like my addon to simply print the plain text of msg (ie. no hyperlink) for testing |
| 00:55.59 | Semlar | you need to replace | with some other character |
| 00:56.27 | emihir0 | |? |
| 00:56.30 | emihir0 | you mean [ ] ? |
| 00:56.37 | Semlar | no |
| 00:57.53 | Semlar | you need to run gsub on the string and replace the pipe character with something else, although you can probably escape it |
| 00:59.30 | emihir0 | the only trouble i have now is being able to see what's actually hidden behind the hyperlink in the msg and in the way the slashcommand stores the hyperlink |
| 00:59.51 | emihir0 | basically i thought 'because they are both hyperlinks, i can simply look for one in the other' - apparently not |
| 01:00.21 | emihir0 | so if i could see what's stored in msg's plain text, and in slashcommand's plain text, then i can see what i should look out for |
| 01:21.28 | Semlar | attempts to index torhal (a nil value) |
| 01:21.57 | Constie | Torhal is truly priceless. |
| 01:24.09 | emihir0 | ok so i'm really perplexed why string.find doesn't work on this. basically both the hyperlinks have the same plaintext |
| 01:24.33 | foxlit | lua> string.find("it's a [mystery] to everyone", "a [mystery] to everyone") |
| 01:24.41 | foxlit | foxlit: nil |
| 01:24.49 | Semlar | are you a robot |
| 01:25.38 | Semlar | you have to escape all of the special characters in your search pattern |
| 01:25.51 | Semlar | brackets define a character class |
| 01:26.01 | foxlit | lua> string.find("it's a [mystery] to everyone", "a [mystery] to everyone", 1, true) |
| 01:26.13 | foxlit | foxlit: 6, 28 |
| 01:26.15 | Semlar | alright fine |
| 01:26.40 | Semlar | apparently it has a literal mode |
| 01:27.03 | Semlar | clearly someone didn't click foxlit's link |
| 01:28.11 | emihir0 | i did click it >.< and i've read about the 4th optional argument |
| 01:28.16 | emihir0 | just wasn't sure exactly what it meant |
| 01:28.56 | emihir0 | Q_Q |
| 01:29.03 | emihir0 | don't hate me senpais :D |
| 01:30.35 | foxlit | shouldn't that be an m? |
| 01:30.47 | emihir0 | 99% it's senpai and not sempai |
| 01:30.57 | Semlar | >_> |
| 01:31.16 | emihir0 | btw i didn't realise it was the pattern matching that was causing the trouble |
| 01:31.32 | Semlar | does japanese even have an "m" |
| 01:31.43 | emihir0 | ok, another problem. when an item is linked using 'SendChatMessage(ticker_variables.msg, "CHANNEL", nil, 2)' for example |
| 01:31.48 | emihir0 | it doesn't catch the link there |
| 01:32.01 | emihir0 | basically when now i look for Vial of the sands (shift-linked) |
| 01:32.10 | emihir0 | and i type /2 WTS Vial of the Sands 46k |
| 01:32.13 | emihir0 | it will find it |
| 01:32.15 | Semlar | i don't remember an m sound |
| 01:32.24 | foxlit | it has an ã, which changes pronounciation depending on what follows it. |
| 01:32.29 | emihir0 | but if it is written using SendChatMessage, it doesn't catch it |
| 01:32.42 | Semlar | that's an n though isn't it |
| 01:33.33 | Semlar | what can you put after it that makes it an m sound |
| 01:33.39 | foxlit | a p. |
| 01:33.49 | emihir0 | ããã±ã se-n-pa-i |
| 01:34.34 | foxlit | or a b. |
| 01:34.38 | Semlar | you're right |
| 01:34.54 | Semlar | but i think it's still romanized as n |
| 01:37.28 | emihir0 | why it doesn't catch when the hyperlink is written through SendChatMessage Q_Q |
| 01:37.49 | emihir0 | or macro where /script MacroFrameText:Insert("") is used for example |
| 01:38.18 | emihir0 | nvm i'm stupid, it works |
| 01:38.24 | emihir0 | i was listening for wrong link |
| 01:38.43 | foxlit | Semlar: silly romanization :P |
| 01:38.55 | Semlar | it does seem confusing |
| 01:41.30 | foxlit | (oddly, a pervious version of hepburn used m instead of n for this) |
| 01:42.14 | emihir0 | can table store 3 variables for each record? |
| 01:42.31 | emihir0 | ie. (1 to n, 1 to 3) size |
| 01:43.43 | Torhal | dereferences Semlar. |
| 01:45.22 | Semlar | collects torhals |
| 01:45.58 | Semlar | do what now |
| 01:46.19 | Semlar | you can put tables in tables |
| 01:46.53 | emihir0 | well yes, but that's not the same |
| 01:47.10 | Semlar | i don't know what you're describing |
| 01:47.27 | emihir0 | i want to record author - msg - 1 other arg |
| 01:48.04 | emihir0 | but if i wanted to record even 10 other args, surely there has to be a way for that (ie. to make a table of width 10 columns) |
| 01:49.45 | emihir0 | basically being able to access values in: tbl[x][y] format, so if i wanted '1 other arg' i'd go tbl[1][3] (if we index from 1) |
| 01:50.20 | Semlar | you're just describing a table with table values |
| 01:50.45 | foxlit | Unrelated story time: I wrote something in a text editor buffer, forgot about it, and then closed the editor window, losing the data forever. |
| 01:51.02 | Semlar | gently pats foxlit |
| 01:52.53 | Semlar | tbl = { { "author", "msg", "arg"}, { "author", "msg", "arg"}, { "author", "msg", "arg"} } |
| 01:54.16 | foxlit | Happy ending, though: text editor periodically saves window contents to disk, and the OS keeps temporary automatic backups of everything that hits the disk. I ended up fishing it out of a backup of a file I never knew existed. |
| 01:54.54 | Semlar | that's nice of it |
| 01:56.57 | emihir0 | i see |
| 01:57.33 | emihir0 | so it can be tbl = { "author1" = { "msg", "arg" }, "author2" = { "msg", "arg" } ...} too right? |
| 01:58.08 | foxlit | a table can only map a key to a single value. |
| 01:58.37 | emihir0 | in this case isn't author1, author2 simply names for other tables? |
| 01:59.06 | foxlit | no; those are string keys in tbl. |
| 01:59.06 | emihir0 | but a record can be accessed by tbl.author1[1] for msg, tbl.author1[2] for arg no? |
| 01:59.37 | foxlit | which get mapped to some other tables as a value, so you could access things like that if you wanted to. |
| 01:59.55 | foxlit | however, tbl = { "author1" = { "msg1", "arg1" }, "author1" = { "msg2", "arg2" } ...} wouldn't work |
| 01:59.58 | Semlar | technically your keys aren't written correctly here but i'm assuming this is just an example |
| 02:00.02 | foxlit | (carrying forward the obvious syntax error) |
| 02:00.22 | Semlar | they either need to drop the quotes or have [ ] around them |
| 02:01.32 | emihir0 | yes |
| 02:04.22 | emihir0 | is there any size limitation? talking number of records (ie. index) |
| 02:04.25 | emihir0 | for tables |
| 02:04.45 | foxlit | you will eventually run out of memory. |
| 02:06.51 | emihir0 | how does TSM work in a sense that the addon can pull data you download through the app? |
| 02:07.39 | foxlit | the data is probably lua code and gets loaded along with the addon. |
| 02:07.42 | Semlar | if it has an app then that program is either writing to files in the addon directory or their saved variables |
| 02:09.36 | emihir0 | yes, i see |
| 02:09.47 | emihir0 | found the file |
| 02:10.30 | emihir0 | it's pretty neat what they do - basically they take the blizz api that gets released every few mins/hours about AH data, run their analysis on it (calculate a bunch of stats like market value/historical prices etc) and then push it to your PC through their app |
| 02:10.49 | emihir0 | then you get up-to-date prices ingame (shows how many mins ago it was last updated too) |
| 02:12.55 | emihir0 | back to the tables tho, i wanted to make sure that i understand the logic behind it. say i have 10 related args; arg1..arg10 that i want to store for each record |
| 02:13.33 | emihir0 | i would have a table of tables such that tbl1 = { rec1 = {}, rec2 = {} ... } |
| 02:14.00 | emihir0 | where each record is a table on their own, such that rec1 = { arg1, arg2, arg3 .. arg10 } ... |
| 02:14.00 | emihir0 | right? |
| 02:14.30 | Semlar | yes |
| 02:15.07 | emihir0 | so if i had 3 args = 'time', 'author', 'msg' |
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| 02:16.53 | emihir0 | i could do: tbl1[#tbl1 + 1].time = sometime |
| 02:17.04 | emihir0 | oh wait, no, can't do it that way |
| 02:17.13 | emihir0 | or can i? >.< |
| 02:17.38 | Semlar | no |
| 02:17.52 | Semlar | because you're describing a dictionary, you don't have numerical indexes |
| 02:18.24 | Semlar | your keys are strings |
| 02:18.53 | foxlit | and/or meaningless. |
| 02:19.24 | Semlar | there's no order, so trying to modify the last value in the table wouldn't work very well |
| 02:19.43 | emihir0 | tlb1[#tbl1 + 1] = { time = "someTime", author = "someAuthor", msg = "someMsg" } |
| 02:19.49 | emihir0 | cant this be used to insert new record? |
| 02:20.51 | Semlar | how are you going to be using the table |
| 02:21.29 | emihir0 | well, just outputting the whole table now |
| 02:21.36 | emihir0 | not looking for anything specific in it |
| 02:22.11 | emihir0 | user set's up what to look for (ie. some link) -> it will look for those msg and record them in the table -> user does some slash command to output the whole table with all the msgs |
| 02:22.46 | Semlar | so you don't actually care what the keys are |
| 02:22.55 | emihir0 | no |
| 02:23.03 | Semlar | then just use table.insert to add new values |
| 02:23.47 | emihir0 | table.insert(tbl1, ...) is identical to tbl1[#tbl1 +1] = ... no? |
| 02:24.04 | emihir0 | but yes, i'll do that |
| 02:25.25 | emihir0 | hmm the problem with that is the table.insert inserts 1 by 1 |
| 02:25.34 | emihir0 | meaning i cannot insert the whole record at once |
| 02:25.56 | Semlar | you're inserting one value, it's a table |
| 02:26.16 | emihir0 | can i do table.insert(tbl1, { } )? |
| 02:26.22 | Semlar | yes |
| 02:26.24 | emihir0 | ah ok |
| 02:27.30 | emihir0 | arghhhhhhh i woudl have thought that there woudl be a time argument in "CHAT_MSG_CHANNEL" |
| 02:28.03 | Semlar | just use GetTime() |
| 02:30.18 | emihir0 | it should be rather easy to get an actual gametime using C_Timer.After which triggers on the first change of minute |
| 02:31.32 | emihir0 | so when GetGameTime() the minute argument changes start counting from every 1 sec increment with C_Timer.After |
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| 03:15.57 | emihir0 | @Semlar ok so I made it even better i think, basically the user now doesn't have to search for anything specific, all the msgs from tradechat are now stored, where repeated msgs by the same author will not be stored again |
| 03:16.19 | emihir0 | and then user can call /chatlistener report <search string> |
| 03:16.33 | emihir0 | to output the trade channel stuff that mentioned the string |
| 03:18.00 | Semlar | now you just need to figure out what you're going to do if trade chat isn't assigned to channel 2 |
| 03:18.52 | emihir0 | i still have trouble with links though |
| 03:30.49 | Amarande | isn't trade always channel 2 unless the player has been messing with the default settings? |
| 03:31.10 | emihir0 | yes |
| 03:31.29 | Amarande | say, speaking of chat, did they ever fix the fact that Hillsbrad Foothills has no chat channel? |
| 03:31.38 | emihir0 | btw @Semlar, i don't record specifically channel 2, i simply record all channel the user is in |
| 03:31.47 | Amarande | (which kind of especially sucks, seeing that Hillsbrad is one of the very few leveling zones that actually HAS group content ...) |
| 03:31.59 | emihir0 | no idea tbh |
| 03:46.11 | emihir0 | how do you make linkable names? ie. so other's can click on them and it opens a chat whisper dialogue |
| 03:48.38 | Semlar | http://wow.gamepedia.com/UI_escape_sequences |
| 03:49.52 | emihir0 | tyvm |
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| 04:03.09 | emihir0 | @Semlar sorry was afk, so I see "|Hplayer:Name:ChatID|hLinktext|h" is for making linkable player's names, so say i want my char name - emihiro. it would be |Hplayer:Emihiro:<ChatID>|h<Linktext>|h |
| 04:03.37 | emihir0 | where can i find chatID and does linktext mean basically what is getting displayed? |
| 04:03.57 | mckenziemc | yes to the last part |
| 04:04.25 | emihir0 | |Hplayer:Emihiro-Outland:<ChatID>|hEmihiro|h |
| 04:04.29 | emihir0 | what's the chat ID? |
| 04:04.33 | Semlar | who knows |
| 04:04.37 | Semlar | try 0 |
| 04:04.41 | emihir0 | oki |
| 04:05.08 | emihir0 | how can i execute this ingame? |
| 04:05.24 | Semlar | you have to replace | with \124 if you're going to run it in the chat box |
| 04:05.59 | Semlar | other than that it's just /run print("your link") |
| 04:06.02 | emihir0 | so /run \124Hplayer:Emihiro-Outland:0\124hEmihiro\124h |
| 04:07.18 | emihir0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:07.28 | Semlar | because you don't have quotes around your string |
| 04:07.39 | emihir0 | even when i did it gave error |
| 04:07.54 | Semlar | orly |
| 04:08.09 | emihir0 | well it didnt give error |
| 04:08.13 | emihir0 | it simply wrote the quotes |
| 04:08.16 | emihir0 | inside of it |
| 04:08.24 | emihir0 | as plaintext |
| 04:08.41 | mckenziemc | the quotes? o.o |
| 04:09.04 | emihir0 | i meant, it simply wrote the inside of the quotes |
| 04:09.08 | Semlar | well i don't know what you managed to write, but it should be /run print(" \124Hplayer:Emihiro-Outland:0\124hEmihiro\124h") |
| 04:09.32 | emihir0 | this return Emihiro as plaintext but not link Q_Q |
| 04:09.55 | emihir0 | oh, but it's clickable |
| 04:10.00 | emihir0 | it's white, but i can click on it |
| 04:10.13 | emihir0 | let me try to run it through addon to see if it gets purple |
| 04:10.16 | emihir0 | or pink, w/e |
| 04:10.17 | Semlar | you're the one who picked the link text |
| 04:10.18 | mckenziemc | it won't |
| 04:10.29 | mckenziemc | you need colorizing text around the actual link part |
| 04:11.06 | Semlar | it's not like they're normally colored |
| 04:11.08 | mckenziemc | |cffff00ff<text>|r i think? |
| 04:12.30 | emihir0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.34 | emihir0 | but that's... kinda too pink :D |
| 04:13.35 | mckenziemc | you should put \124r at the end for good form (resets the color) |
| 04:14.03 | Semlar | the color string should almost certainly be inside of the link |
| 04:14.13 | emihir0 | i did that at first, but then it put additional | |
| 04:14.14 | emihir0 | after emihiro |
| 04:14.17 | emihir0 | so it was Emihiro| |
| 04:14.19 | emihir0 | in pink |
| 04:14.27 | mckenziemc | i think the color's usually outside, Semlar |
| 04:15.18 | Semlar | maybe |
| 04:17.35 | mckenziemc | emihir0: /run print(string.gsub("shift click link to inspect here", "\124", "|")) |
| 04:18.52 | emihir0 | what was that supposed to do? |
| 04:19.13 | mckenziemc | guess it won't work for all types (just copies players' plaintext names), but you can use it to look at colors of existing links, and the format of other link types |
| 04:19.38 | emihir0 | well i did shift link players name into it |
| 04:19.45 | emihir0 | it simply returned the player's name followed by 0 |
| 04:19.52 | emihir0 | in plaintext |
| 04:19.55 | emihir0 | Emihiro-Outland 0 |
| 04:20.12 | mckenziemc | it'll turn an item link into the full form |
| 04:20.24 | mckenziemc | or spell or (i expect) pet links etc |
| 04:21.00 | emihir0 | it works on items |
| 04:21.02 | emihir0 | but not on people |
| 04:21.52 | emihir0 | ah, silly me |
| 04:22.02 | emihir0 | when you shift click a person, it simply types the name in plaintext |
| 04:22.07 | emihir0 | doesn't actually 'link' the name |
| 04:22.37 | mckenziemc | chatID's most likely not something you can guess though |
| 04:23.24 | mckenziemc | oh nvm it's not for what i thought it was |
| 04:24.00 | emihir0 | earlier today/yesterday there was a function linked that when given a full name-server it would return name |
| 04:24.10 | emihir0 | ambigue? something like that |
| 04:24.14 | Semlar | ambiguate |
| 04:24.33 | emihir0 | thanks a lot |
| 04:25.16 | mckenziemc | disambiguates Semlar. |
| 04:27.55 | mckenziemc | ~framexml |
| 04:27.55 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ . |
| 04:34.34 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.41 | Semlar | the chatID is completely optional |
| 04:38.51 | mckenziemc | removes Semlar's options. |
| 04:39.18 | Amarande | Oh LOL that's Megyn Kelly ... I was for a moment like, "why is Hillary Clinton moderating the GOP debate?" *facepalm* |
| 04:40.59 | mckenziemc | and this isn't facebook |
| 04:43.34 | emihir0 | @Semlar is that supposed to write the colour of text when i mouseover it? |
| 04:44.12 | Semlar | it will output an escaped version of whatever font string you're mousing over |
| 04:44.31 | emihir0 | well... it's not printing anything for me in ingame chat |
| 04:44.41 | emihir0 | is there anything else other than running that script that i must do? |
| 04:44.54 | Semlar | nope |
| 04:44.59 | emihir0 | oh, nvm |
| 04:45.01 | Semlar | well, mouse over text |
| 04:45.03 | Semlar | obviously |
| 04:45.27 | emihir0 | yes, for some reason i thought it would be continuous (ie. not a one time mouseover) |
| 04:45.32 | emihir0 | i shoudl really go to bed, it's 5 am here :D |
| 04:45.40 | Semlar | probably |
| 04:46.40 | emihir0 | it works, but there is a slight... problem |
| 04:46.59 | emihir0 | basically the only time i see the pink whisper chat is when i go whisper someone |
| 04:47.22 | emihir0 | by the time i enter the script, my mouse is not over that whisper chat anymore (ie. the script is run, msg is sent) |
| 04:47.44 | emihir0 | when i bind it to a key, the key will be put into chatbox instead of pressed (to execute the script) |
| 04:49.59 | emihir0 | ok nevermind i'm really dumb when tired |
| 04:50.08 | emihir0 | ... i could simply pm someone to get the pink |
| 04:51.16 | emihir0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.17 | Semlar | whisper yourself |
| 04:51.20 | emihir0 | this is what was returned |
| 04:51.34 | emihir0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.42 | Semlar | well that's because the chat doesn't embed color strings to color the lines |
| 04:52.23 | emihir0 | so... how should i get the colour? |
| 04:54.30 | Semlar | it's ff80ff |
| 04:55.25 | emihir0 | yaaaay |
| 04:55.27 | emihir0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.47 | mckenziemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.53 | emihir0 | Q_Q |
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| 05:01.01 | mckenziemc | ~fiskerslap bluspacecow |
| 05:01.01 | purl | ACTION slaps bluspacecow around a bit with Fisker. |
| 05:01.20 | bluspacecow | hi2u |
| 05:01.47 | mckenziemc | you're up early |
| 05:02.08 | bluspacecow | its 6pm |
| 05:02.24 | mckenziemc | don't you work graveyard? :p |
| 05:02.47 | bluspacecow | tonight :) |
| 05:13.54 | Semlar | moo |
| 05:19.41 | bluspacecow | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SdYG_e0qCik/TAhujIKj1dI/AAAAAAAAABY/cN_6ZFZm4kQ/s1600/fat-homer-simpson-moo-moo.gif |
| 05:20.12 | Semlar | hands bluspacecow a cookie |
| 05:20.37 | bluspacecow | *noms* |
| 05:22.32 | mckenziemc | https://www.pololu.com/file/download/SY42STH38-1684A.pdf?file_id=0J715 page two... |
| 05:24.42 | emihir0 | ok guys, i'll pack it for tonight, thanks a lot for the help, really appreciated =) |
| 05:24.45 | emihir0 | gn |
| 05:24.53 | Semlar | have fun |
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| 06:00.43 | Torhal | steals Semlar's chat ID. |
| 06:00.59 | Semlar | it was a fake id |
| 06:01.16 | Torhal | That's fine - I sold it to Neffi. |
| 06:02.04 | bluspacecow | *steals it from Neffi* |
| 06:02.07 | bluspacecow | *eats it* |
| 06:03.03 | Semlar | you don't know where that's been |
| 06:03.25 | bluspacecow | its okay |
| 06:03.30 | bluspacecow | i put ketchup on it |
| 06:03.36 | bluspacecow | everythings better with Ketchup |
| 06:04.20 | Semlar | even ketchup? |
| 06:04.27 | bluspacecow | yep |
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| 06:07.22 | Semlar | puts ketchup on bluspacecow's cookies |
| 06:07.29 | bluspacecow | *noms* |
| 06:08.50 | mckenziemc | puts Windows 10 on Semlar's refrigerator. |
| 06:09.26 | Semlar | i don't think my refrigerator is compatible with technology |
| 06:09.53 | mckenziemc | compatibility wasn't the intent |
| 06:20.15 | mckenziemc | inverts Semlar's math.sin |
| 06:20.35 | Semlar | why |
| 06:22.00 | mckenziemc | so you can be free of your math.sin |
| 06:24.19 | Torhal | enables original.sin for mckenziemc. |
| 06:24.42 | mckenziemc | deprecates Torhal. |
| 06:24.56 | Torhal | obfuscates mckenziemc. |
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| 07:53.53 | bluspacecow | \o |
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| 12:34.08 | zenzelezz | it's interesting to me that (at least for me) the thing that I most notice about games that make them look "old" when you replay them is usually not mechanics or story, or even the size of levels, but lighting and shadow |
| 12:45.58 | Neffi | its usually control scheme and animations for me |
| 12:46.26 | zenzelezz | hm, animation is a good point. Controls too I guess, in that "wow, I only need three buttons now?" sense |
| 12:46.31 | Neffi | I can ignore bad graphics but a lot of older games just dlhadnt figured out good controls yet |
| 12:46.45 | Neffi | and the animations in older 3d games are usually jarring |
| 12:47.02 | zenzelezz | depends how far back I guess. I mostly don't mind too much |
| 12:47.10 | zenzelezz | replaying Dragon Age: Origins |
| 12:47.34 | Neffi | see I'm thinking, like, baldurs gate |
| 12:47.45 | Neffi | for controls |
| 12:48.11 | Neffi | I never played da:o |
| 12:48.28 | zenzelezz | II/Inquisition? |
| 12:48.44 | Neffi | nope |
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| 14:43.23 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu32OisFgWI woo |
| 14:49.13 | emihir0 | if i have my data in a format: tbl = { { time, author, msg }, { time, author, msg } ... } |
| 14:49.27 | emihir0 | what would be the best way to sort the records by time? |
| 14:50.01 | emihir0 | (i can't use time as key for the sub-table because there can be 2 tables with identical time) |
| 14:56.14 | emihir0 | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21890961/sorting-a-table-by-nested-value-in-lua guess this shoudl work |
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| 16:07.02 | karl_w_w | https://youtu.be/NJMm1kaf-w0?t=2h21m30s so that's a thing |
| 16:07.08 | karl_w_w | gundam condoms |
| 16:14.12 | zenzelezz | wild guess, you watched the cooptional podcast |
| 16:15.42 | karl_w_w | well considering the alternative is I managed to randomly land 2 hours 21 minutes in :P |
| 16:18.25 | zenzelezz | I didn't open the link |
| 16:18.46 | zenzelezz | it just seemed more likely to be the case than that gundam condoms was suddenly going around the web |
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| 16:33.35 | Amarande | karl_w_w: it's Japan, I'm pretty sure there's a rule that if you can imagine it, there's probably themed condoms ... which you can probably even get from a vending machine :) |
| 16:35.13 | Amarande | wow, Murray is getting his ass kicked |
| 16:41.22 | Torhal | ? |
| 16:41.37 | Torhal | Who the hell is Murray and who the hell is kicking his ass? |
| 16:42.25 | Gnarfoz | Murray was Dio's mascot |
| 16:42.28 | Gnarfoz | you should know this |
| 16:42.44 | Torhal | ... |
| 16:43.17 | Torhal | Well, he COULD be talking about that. Or Bill Murray. Or someone completely different. |
| 16:43.28 | Torhal | All I know is it was completely out of context. |
| 16:43.57 | zenzelezz | or the skull from Monkey Island |
| 16:44.44 | karl_w_w | andy murray |
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| 17:00.12 | Amarande | I'm guessing Torhal isn't watching the tennis finals |
| 17:00.33 | Torhal | I've never quite understood the point of sports. |
| 17:01.01 | Torhal | I mean, from the spectator side of things. |
| 17:03.44 | Semlar | tackles torhal |
| 17:04.02 | kullervo | it's a tribal thing, you wouldn't understand |
| 17:04.05 | Torhal | issues a penalty flag for Semlar. |
| 17:04.42 | Semlar | is it a bitflag |
| 17:05.20 | Torhal | Yes, Semlar, and I'll flip it much like you do your Lua tables. |
| 17:05.48 | Semlar | :( |
| 17:06.00 | Semlar | leave my tables alone |
| 17:06.19 | Torhal | Yet another reason for no output. |
| 17:06.25 | pompy | . |
| 17:06.31 | zenzelezz | I once flipped a hash table, the result was unstable |
| 17:07.33 | Torhal | Ok, passout time. |
| 17:18.51 | Semlar | what does internationalized mean |
| 17:18.56 | Semlar | is that the opposite of localized? |
| 17:20.35 | Semlar | or is it the same |
| 17:22.12 | zenzelezz | they are related, but not the same |
| 17:22.44 | zenzelezz | don't recall the proper definitions though |
| 17:23.34 | zenzelezz | I never liked the "abbreviation" i18n, but I can understand it, since it's rather tedious to type out "internationalizatoin" every time |
| 17:24.16 | Amarande | Semlar: it means you go to the trouble to make your application's framework allow for language-based substitution of strings |
| 17:24.43 | Amarande | and then you go to the trouble to create your strings a bajillion times to accommodate every language someone might want to use your app in :) |
| 17:39.42 | mckenziemc | maybe you should try it sometime Amarande |
| 18:11.11 | emihir0 | when i have a global variable that is gettign saved (e.g. addon_variables) |
| 18:11.23 | emihir0 | how can i reference it with a shorter reference, can i do something like |
| 18:11.28 | emihir0 | local vars = addon_variables |
| 18:11.39 | emihir0 | vars.SomeVariable = 10 |
| 18:12.14 | emihir0 | i mean, how can i reference it in a shorter form so that it gets saved back to the original variable |
| 18:13.33 | Semlar | the way you have it written |
| 18:14.07 | Semlar | neffi i broke something |
| 18:15.43 | Semlar | i found a way to keep your last mouseover as a valid unit id forever |
| 18:20.08 | Semlar | i mean, you can't interact with the world frame without losing it, so it's not terribly useful |
| 18:22.49 | emihir0 | @Semlar my addon as you might remember, records everything that is being said in trade channel (and other channels you joined), where users can search for strings backward (e.g. /ch search 24 lightbringer; this would search last 24 hours of chat for keyword lighbringer in either author's name or msg) |
| 18:23.04 | emihir0 | my worry is that at some point the table will simply get too big |
| 18:23.22 | emihir0 | what do you suggest i do? how many days of data is 'ok' to keep realistically? |
| 18:23.47 | emihir0 | (btw i dont store duplicate msgs by the same author, only update the time of the already existing msg) |
| 18:24.06 | Semlar | well if you're worried about it being too large you should limit it based on length not time |
| 18:24.58 | emihir0 | well i dont really have experience with how big is 'troublesome' big when it comes to stuff like this |
| 18:25.05 | emihir0 | so what kind of limitations do you suggest? |
| 18:25.24 | Semlar | i don't know, i can tell you string functions are really slow |
| 18:25.49 | emihir0 | hmm |
| 18:25.56 | Semlar | trying to search for a term in a book's worth of text is going to lock up the game |
| 18:26.15 | emihir0 | i guess i'll just stay in town for the next few hours/days and see how it behaves |
| 18:45.17 | mckenziemc | there's always coroutines |
| 18:46.55 | mckenziemc | coroutinely stabs Semlar. |
| 18:48.01 | Semlar | you can split up the load by only processing some of it at a time |
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