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| 10:10.51 | VIad | almost spelled it right |
| 10:10.56 | VIad | mayonnaise |
| 10:23.03 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 10:23.12 | Cairenn | You're calling the mayo clinic a bullshit site? |
| 10:23.20 | VIad | *rage* |
| 10:23.35 | Cairenn | is just baffled by that |
| 10:23.53 | VIad | well depends, if he searched for king size condoms and got refered to the mayo clinic |
| 10:25.05 | Torhal | Maybe karl_w_w is becoming a troll, Cairenn. We should check the Mayo Clinic site for a cure... |
| 10:25.11 | Cairenn | lol |
| 10:26.39 | VIad | google play advertising 60 days free music with justin bieber on the artwork in the ad |
| 10:26.40 | VIad | no thank you |
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| 10:37.58 | Gnarfoz | advertising skills akin to IBM |
| 10:43.47 | Simca_ | https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2hhK6ovcQH599Q_gjF1KPIAp97MrDdFsGYdytaCDMtI you mean we don't need to know which WowEditUser locked resources? Blizzard I'm terribly offended |
| 10:46.31 | fewyn | bleh i can't sleep |
| 10:52.30 | Torhal | Same. I was supposed to sleep from 4:30pm until 12:30am. I woke up at 6pm and haven't been back to sleep since. |
| 10:52.38 | Torhal | Oh, it's 4:52am now. |
| 10:52.59 | Torhal | This has been my past week and a half. It's pure awesomeness. |
| 10:53.37 | fewyn | i've been having a pretty crap week too |
| 10:53.42 | fewyn | today should be way better |
| 10:53.52 | fewyn | i have to go sign new lease papers at new apartment in about 4 hours |
| 10:54.19 | Torhal | Grats! |
| 10:54.59 | fewyn | it'll be nice to be able to take a shower in a not-broken bathroom later today |
| 10:55.14 | fewyn | my current place is falling apart and maintance never fixes anything |
| 10:55.19 | fewyn | so i'm glad to be gone of this place |
| 10:55.29 | fewyn | our stove has been broken since september |
| 10:55.33 | Torhal | Ouch |
| 10:55.46 | fewyn | the bathtub doesn't always drain |
| 10:55.57 | fewyn | the shower leaks constantly and doesn't have full pressure |
| 10:56.02 | Torhal | Sounds like the place needs to be condemned. |
| 10:56.05 | fewyn | the sink leaks into the basement |
| 10:56.08 | fewyn | in the kitchen |
| 10:56.23 | fewyn | also none of the light switches are wired to any outlets in the place |
| 10:56.41 | fewyn | ^ that right there should have been the first sign |
| 10:57.19 | Torhal | Yeesh |
| 10:58.32 | fewyn | yeah |
| 11:03.10 | Simca_ | some surprisingly logical changes to Sound dbcs. SoundEntries* -> SoundKit* for renaming, which is fine. then there was a 20-field filedataID array and a 20-field frequency array in SoundEntries and a 20-field volume array in SoundEntriesAdvanced. They removed those all and made a new db2 (SoundKitEntry) that is FileDataID, Volume, SoundKitID, Frequency. I |
| 11:03.10 | Simca_ | have to admit they did do a nice job normalizing some of their shittier SQL tables like those ones |
| 11:48.24 | hizuro | the db2 file starting with WDB3? i need a converter for it -.- |
| 11:49.09 | nevcairiel | WDB3 is new in legion, yes |
| 11:49.23 | hizuro | yes... |
| 11:49.35 | nevcairiel | although it was only temporary, they seem to have WDB4 now already |
| 11:50.18 | hizuro | hmm... |
| 11:51.52 | hizuro | do you know a dbc/db2 to sql converter with wdb4/5 support? |
| 11:52.39 | nevcairiel | I find it fascinating that they iterate through various db2 versions, but the old dbc format is still in use for a bunch of files |
| 11:56.43 | hizuro | and i want to look into the db2 files for new follower and other things... ^^ |
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| 13:41.14 | Simca_ | hizuro: i wrote complete public documentation for those formats here - http://www.pxr.dk/wowdev/wiki/index.php?title=DB2 |
| 13:55.40 | hizuro | simca_: i know this page. great work :) but i've no experience to write my own converter :( |
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| 14:24.06 | VIad | nice Simca_ |
| 14:24.44 | VIad | it's a bit in the gray, since these kind of wikis can often be about private servers, since they also need this knowledge, but pxr.dk is the most tame of them I guess |
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| 14:31.53 | Simca_ | yes, afaik the wowdev wiki at pxr -only- covers the game itself (including its file formats, packets, data structures, etc) |
| 14:32.16 | Simca_ | some of the info is useful for private server devs probably, but it's also useful for a lot of community tools like simulationcraft and such |
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| 16:18.04 | karl_w_w | Tracing route to twitch.tv [192.16.71.168] |
| 16:18.06 | karl_w_w | wot? |
| 16:19.05 | karl_w_w | huh, thats interesting |
| 16:20.02 | foxlit | only 192.168 is private. |
| 16:20.56 | hizuro | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network :) |
| 16:21.22 | karl_w_w | shame I'm only getting 3 hops before everything times ouy |
| 16:21.24 | karl_w_w | out |
| 16:21.58 | fewyn | no internet until monday |
| 16:22.02 | fewyn | rip |
| 16:22.08 | fewyn | better download all the steam games |
| 16:22.15 | fewyn | before i move my desktop to new apartment |
| 16:23.14 | Ressy | My ISP has 192.0. |
| 16:25.53 | nevcairiel | they avoided using those IP ranges before, but since we're running low on v4, everything gotta go now |
| 16:26.30 | Semlar | sublets foxlit's subnets |
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| 16:30.47 | karl_w_w | so the last IP the responds on my route to twitch is 203.221.3.68 |
| 16:30.57 | karl_w_w | but I can't find any information about it |
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| 16:36.14 | hizuro | really? :) https://db-ip.com/203.221.3.68 |
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| 17:02.20 | pompy1 | Cape May is getting screwed. https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12592229_10153319704140814_5470745176677960011_n.jpg?oh=ca76fbea9c45b6bd0f73d9dcd20927e0&oe=5730955F ... just a silly picture, but real. |
| 17:13.28 | mckenziemc | o.o |
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| 17:50.27 | VIad | where can I mail some cash for someone at blizzard to get punched in the ballsack? |
| 17:50.50 | VIad | because I did this before 4m30s and I just had to wait like 30 seconds for the timer to run out, then this http://ss.bool.no/capture_1453485030.png |
| 17:51.08 | Amarande | VIad: probably into your TD Ameritrade account, then you purchase some Activision and tell them you have a request as a shareholder :) |
| 17:51.33 | VIad | :D |
| 17:51.51 | VIad | been here over an hour trying to do this right and get lucky RNG to save time, made it! but not... |
| 17:52.39 | Semlar | you didn't kill all of the monsters |
| 17:52.59 | VIad | I need to kill everything in the whole area? |
| 17:53.01 | VIad | jesus christ |
| 17:53.03 | Semlar | yes |
| 17:53.07 | Semlar | there are 2 kill objectives |
| 17:53.33 | VIad | I was barely making this one, was saving time by going faster and aoeing more |
| 17:53.36 | Semlar | there's the "kill 232 monsters" and then there's "kill everything in the dungeon before the time runs out" |
| 17:53.52 | VIad | I need to get the leap all you want buff |
| 17:53.56 | VIad | otherwise I am too slow :P |
| 17:53.57 | Amarande | VIad: welcome to the fun of being melee in D3, heh |
| 17:54.46 | Amarande | the game seems pretty heavily biased towards ranged ... as melee you invariably end up hit with the Diablo equivalent of a 7-10 eventually and are too slow no matter what you try :) |
| 17:54.54 | VIad | Semlar: what is the reward? |
| 17:55.02 | Semlar | look on the bright side, at least you didn't have this http://gfycat.com/AromaticShockedIndusriverdolphin |
| 17:55.03 | VIad | last thing I need for my seasonal achievements |
| 17:55.23 | VIad | jesus |
| 17:56.43 | Semlar | you get a flag for your back if you complete all of the set dungeons for your class |
| 17:57.20 | Semlar | and there's wings for completing all of them for all of the classes |
| 17:57.45 | VIad | hmm |
| 17:57.46 | Semlar | i don't know what the seasonal achievement requires |
| 17:57.51 | VIad | it requires me |
| 17:57.55 | VIad | ah nvm |
| 17:58.00 | VIad | I didnt have to actually do it |
| 17:58.03 | VIad | just visit the area |
| 17:59.24 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:00.04 | Semlar | what does it take to get it to output a B for your damage numbers |
| 18:00.29 | VIad | :d |
| 18:00.39 | VIad | tbh the text goes too fast to actually read the dmg :p |
| 18:00.54 | nevcairiel | over 100 billion should do it |
| 18:00.59 | VIad | having problems figuring out how much aoe I do with my boulder toss because it just flies over the head |
| 18:01.12 | Semlar | why would i want it to display 96,080M instead of 96B |
| 18:01.52 | nevcairiel | but i didnt see it yet either, i do massive loads of "small" hits in the 5-10B range, instead of hard hitters =p |
| 18:01.55 | Semlar | it's so much harder to read when it's flying by |
| 18:02.15 | karl_w_w | viewer discretion is advised |
| 18:02.31 | karl_w_w | bad boys watcha want watcha want watcha gonna do |
| 18:04.16 | VIad | oh while I have you pro d3 guys here, how do I farm the goblin gold city farm item? |
| 18:05.31 | Semlar | are you asking about the ring to open the vault |
| 18:06.12 | Semlar | either way, there's almost nothing in diablo you can farm for specifically except for a few items out of whimsyshire |
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| 18:06.30 | VIad | yes |
| 18:06.39 | VIad | its gold farm city, love it |
| 18:06.57 | Semlar | you can open the vault by cubing a puzzle ring |
| 18:07.15 | Semlar | or randomly from killing a goblin |
| 18:07.43 | mckenziemc | crits Semlar for 472 gigadameg. |
| 18:07.50 | mckenziemc | damage* o.o |
| 18:10.04 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.43 | Amarande | "over 100 billion should do it" |
| 18:10.55 | Amarande | Someone at Blizz has played too many Nippon Ichi SRPGs I think :D |
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| 20:31.13 | foxlit | heh, steelseries botched their application update check |
| 20:31.28 | foxlit | check for updates -> "you're all up to date!" -> you're actually a bazillion versions behind. |
| 20:35.12 | Semlar | updates foxlit to LimePineapple |
| 20:36.14 | Fisker | >steelseries |
| 20:36.47 | foxlit | decent 7-button mice. |
| 20:37.55 | Fisker | Get the ones that plays gifs |
| 20:38.35 | foxlit | :*( |
| 20:41.22 | foxlit | not the ones with Tactile Feedback(tm)? |
| 20:42.16 | Fisker | Gifs pls |
| 20:48.56 | foxlit | no more gifs now. only tears. |
| 20:57.07 | Semlar | shhh |
| 20:58.13 | nikna | http://imgur.com/gallery/tJKrX7Y |
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| 22:57.21 | nevcairiel | Semlar: looks like d3 doesnt do billion abbreviations at all because its a localization nightmare |
| 22:57.33 | nevcairiel | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/19996041/engineering-diablo-iiis-damage-numbers-1-22-2016 |
| 22:57.42 | Semlar | um there is only one language you need to worry about |
| 22:59.21 | zenzelezz | "billion" is where long scale/short scale kicks in, isn't it? |
| 22:59.28 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 23:00.26 | Semlar | Skipping the billions place also helped with this, as seeing â1,000Mâ tells a much more exciting story than â1B.â |
| 23:00.36 | Semlar | no, it's impossible to read |
| 23:01.57 | Semlar | i don't want it to say 96 thousand million |
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| 23:05.54 | Semlar | anyway it all just gets lost in a sea of numbers that don't have any real meaning when you're playing |
| 23:07.09 | Semlar | it seems to be intentionally designed to make it difficult for you to figure out how much damage you're actually doing or to compare builds or gear |
| 23:07.39 | Amarande | Semlar: well, it's D3 |
| 23:07.54 | Amarande | you don't really get that much in the way of choices in endgame gear, which is super sad compared to D2 :( |
| 23:08.06 | Amarande | just "get the tier set like everyone else" like MMOs |
| 23:08.16 | Semlar | although that might be giving their design team too much credit |
| 23:08.27 | Amarande | then your build gets pretty much predetermined based on what the tier set optimises for :( |
| 23:09.22 | Semlar | because we still have things like the paragon button covering up our buff bar and white numbers without outlines or shadows on buff icons that make them impossible to read |
| 23:09.36 | Stanzilla | https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/422yx7/uiux_changes_needed_for_24x/ |
| 23:10.00 | Semlar | tries to calm stanzilla down |
| 23:10.49 | Semlar | i swear to god it's like they don't have anyone actually play testing the interface |
| 23:11.17 | Semlar | because this stuff is impossible to miss |
| 23:15.36 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: the limit mouse when in game only seems utterly pointless in diablo, when do you hang around the menu for a longer period anyway <.< |
| 23:16.57 | Stanzilla | was thinking about the ESC screen actually |
| 23:17.11 | nevcairiel | just tab out o.o |
| 23:17.22 | Stanzilla | 4meh |
| 23:17.24 | Stanzilla | they wont do it anyway |
| 23:17.49 | Stanzilla | when i fight to the right I often lose my cursor to the other screen |
| 23:18.11 | nevcairiel | thats why you set it to catch it on the border |
| 23:18.18 | nevcairiel | i couldnt play without that option |
| 23:19.24 | nevcairiel | i actually play in proper fullscreen most of the time anyway so i can use gsync |
| 23:19.27 | znf | https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/O0QENPGRIAJ11453327990423.jpg |
| 23:19.34 | znf | most pointless table ever |
| 23:19.35 | nevcairiel | windowed gsync is rather broken still |
| 23:24.59 | Amarande | meh, gsync |
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