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| 00:08.33 | Torhal | Isn't that why you locked yourself out of your apartment, kd3? |
| 00:15.08 | WrathTECH | Evening everyone |
| 00:16.22 | Rythal | That use to be the motto... for the lulz |
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| 00:22.11 | Amarande | yeah, it's getting to the point we probably ought to push for laws providing stiffer sentencing for people who do crimes for senseless thrills |
| 00:30.03 | Mr_Rabies | the sentences are pretty damned stiff now for that kinda stuff, generally |
| 00:32.10 | Mr_Rabies | having extended sentencing for nonviolent crimes is something to reconsider in general, i'd say |
| 00:32.33 | Mr_Rabies | likely to make nonviolent folks violent when they're locked up with violent people for decades |
| 00:32.45 | Amarande | I mean "for the lulz" should be considered a specific aggravating factor, rather than merely baseline |
| 00:33.19 | Mr_Rabies | it can be, essentially, depending |
| 00:33.42 | Mr_Rabies | "with disregard for human life, safety" etc |
| 00:36.49 | Mr_Rabies | but generally these people are insanely high-number repeat offenders |
| 00:37.03 | Mr_Rabies | like one of the lizard squad guys got hit with 50,000 counts of fraud, etc |
| 00:37.46 | Mr_Rabies | there's a certain obsessiveness involved with those kinda folks that generally points towards psychological issues |
| 00:41.07 | Mr_Rabies | generally when these people get caught it's already basically "work for us or you're gonna spend the rest of your life behind bars" |
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| 01:22.21 | Semlar2 | it's too hot neffi |
| 01:23.55 | Semlar2 | it's going to be 86 tomorrow |
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| 01:29.55 | Semlar2 | 86s torhal |
| 01:35.44 | mckenziemc | 8086s Semlar2. |
| 01:37.45 | Amarande | Frosty the Snowman ... Will not be seen this year ... |
| 01:38.16 | Amarande | ... which is just fine because Frosty probably kills more people than any other character in winter folklore ever has :p |
| 01:39.57 | Amarande | Yeah. We've got fragging THUNDERSTORMS forecast for tomorrow and Christmas Eve, with temperatures approaching 70 on the Eve |
| 01:40.02 | Amarande | and it's going to be 60 and sunny on Christmas heh |
| 01:40.11 | Amarande | which hemisphere am I in again? :S |
| 01:45.04 | mckenziemc | uh |
| 01:45.37 | mckenziemc | cool and sunny in winter is less odd than cool and sunny in summer |
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| 01:49.44 | Ressy | Bah. Damn corsair |
| 01:50.40 | mckenziemc | did one fly into your house? |
| 01:50.49 | Amarande | Ressy: computer uses just the right amount of power to make the psu fan drive you batty? |
| 01:51.01 | Ressy | Huh? |
| 01:51.06 | Ressy | Shit.. |
| 01:51.21 | Ressy | Why is amarande unignored again |
| 01:52.14 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 01:52.16 | Mr_Rabies | pfft you just gotta think of Amarande like the crazy uncle that posts about the moon landing on facebook from time to time, he's harmless |
| 01:52.28 | Ressy | Damned annoying |
| 01:52.35 | Ressy | Only one I've ever put on ignore |
| 01:56.18 | Amarande | hah, and for what it's worth, that's actually a thing with corsair PSUs |
| 01:56.51 | Amarande | they only spin up the fan if there's enough load, so if your computer has just about the right amount of load, you get treated to the fan constantly noisily spinning up-and-down |
| 01:56.57 | Ressy | Nobody cares |
| 01:57.07 | Amarande | well, you did say "damn corsair" |
| 01:57.13 | Ressy | How the hell do I ignore him.. Damnit |
| 01:57.18 | Ressy | Corsair isn't just psus |
| 01:57.22 | Ressy | Geez |
| 01:57.38 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:58.03 | Ressy | Ty! |
| 01:58.37 | Ressy | On mobile atm. Still no computer. Corsair still has my computer parts. |
| 01:58.51 | Ressy | They confirmed their cooler leaked and failed |
| 01:59.09 | Ressy | But are denting damage to my motherboard with the fried voltage sensors |
| 01:59.14 | Ressy | Denying. |
| 02:02.14 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: heh. I don't quite get why people bother to use /ignore when they can just, you know, disregard things they don't want to bother reading :) |
| 02:02.15 | Semlar | gently pats Ressy |
| 02:02.34 | Ressy | I've been without a computer for a week.... |
| 02:02.44 | mckenziemc | because sometimes it's just too much, Amarande... |
| 02:03.03 | Ressy | And I've done winter veil stuff only 2 days, on a crappy computer with an Intel gpu. |
| 02:03.18 | Amarande | personally I can never quite manage to use /ignore, it always starts to feel strange when you only see half-conversations |
| 02:03.47 | Amarande | well, that's the nice thing about WoW, you can play it on an Intel GPU |
| 02:04.07 | Amarande | ffxiv or sw:tor or lotro would do pretty terrible by comparison :( |
| 02:05.27 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i don't really use /ignore either, amarande, but eh, some people would rather just not see it in the first place i guess |
| 02:06.15 | Mr_Rabies | the only person i've ignored is one guy that logs in and alternates between spewing crazy shit and singing drunkenly in trade chat for days until he gets banned again |
| 02:06.30 | Amarande | heh which server is this |
| 02:06.46 | Amarande | I've been on a number of servers, trade chat being oddball is fairly usual |
| 02:06.57 | Amarande | except on illidan, where it just scrolls so quickly that you can't really have much of a convo |
| 02:07.34 | Amarande | (and half the lfg ads are in chinese which is bloody irritating because the fonts don't line up with anything else) |
| 02:08.47 | Mr_Rabies | Llane-Arygos |
| 02:09.01 | Mr_Rabies | trade chat is oddball for us but there's one guy that always comes back |
| 02:09.07 | Mr_Rabies | Belchergirl is his main |
| 02:09.19 | Amarande | I hope that's at least a dwarf that drinks plenty of beer |
| 02:09.32 | kullervo | ignore now targets the character's account |
| 02:10.03 | Amarande | kullervo: wow, that ... kind of sucks, actually, in a way |
| 02:10.30 | Amarande | (thinking as in discouraging people from trying characters they're less skilled with than their main, because if they get ignored for being bad on that character, their main eats it too) |
| 02:10.40 | Mr_Rabies | aw looks like they're banned still or didn't resub, or changed chars |
| 02:10.40 | Mr_Rabies | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/llane/Belchergirl/simple |
| 02:11.16 | mckenziemc | if someone ignores someone else for being "bad," it's probably for the ignoree's benefit |
| 02:11.20 | Amarande | heh, someone remind him that troll is an available race for druid now? :) |
| 02:11.45 | Amarande | mckenziemc: the problem is that if someone's ignored for being awful on one character that's not their main, it also ignores their main who they might be awesome on meanwhile |
| 02:11.52 | Amarande | which kinda incentivises people to stick to their mains |
| 02:11.56 | mckenziemc | see above |
| 02:12.09 | mckenziemc | s/for/to/ |
| 02:13.10 | Amarande | well, yeah, if someone's going to be that much of a bitch you probably don't want to play with them anyway :) |
| 02:13.31 | kullervo | I often tell people to put me on ignore |
| 02:13.55 | kullervo | since there's no downsides from my point of view |
| 02:13.59 | Amarande | blah I should get back into mmoing |
| 02:14.16 | Amarande | hm. true or false that wow has become less compatible with WINE lately than it used to be? |
| 02:14.26 | Amarande | I seem to recall recent expansions getting worse ratings on winehq :| |
| 02:16.03 | Mr_Rabies | no clue, but i hope they're not wasting too many resources on trying to keep unsupported platforms working |
| 02:17.31 | Amarande | I'm not sure Blizzard has ever really done that, outside of at least putting in a little effort to understand wine exists so wine users don't chronically trip warden and get banned |
| 02:18.14 | Amarande | support is up to the wine folks, but it seemed like they were starting to slip with 5.x |
| 02:18.24 | Amarande | used to be wow was practically one of the "gold standard" games for wine |
| 02:20.07 | Mr_Rabies | seems like a lot of open source stuff has slipped in the past couple years |
| 02:20.22 | Mr_Rabies | focusing more on politics than their product/service |
| 02:21.00 | Amarande | actually, right now it *is* Gold, but it used to be Platinum in Wrath ... and apparently it actually dropped all the way to Garbage in Mists |
| 02:27.18 | karl_w_w | https://40.media.tumblr.com/cb08bd38c2eb4e6497f03e9dc11acf84/tumblr_nzegwyC3bC1ususy7o1_1280.jpg |
| 02:49.01 | tz | I have a few orb weavers in my backyard, they eat the bugs, it's all good |
| 02:54.46 | Semlar | i just have these http://i.imgur.com/ID887DC.jpg |
| 02:56.16 | Semlar | here neffi http://i.imgur.com/IpX4Z4h.jpg |
| 02:56.39 | Mr_Rabies | that's a weird looking cat, Semlar |
| 02:56.46 | Ressy | With fire! |
| 02:57.28 | Semlar | i would never set spiderbro on fire |
| 03:00.08 | Ressy | Spiders require fire |
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| 03:00.55 | Semlar | SPIDERS ARE PEOPLE TOO |
| 03:08.51 | Ressy | No they're not |
| 03:09.07 | End | spiders are horrible people |
| 03:09.31 | kd3 | spiderbros are great |
| 03:09.58 | End | they're horrible people though. if you're looking for people, you're looking in the wrong place. |
| 03:23.47 | kd3 | heh. boston dynamics is having fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDZu04v7_hc |
| 03:26.14 | jleclanche | Deponia is on sale at 95% off (0.89â¬). it's a great adventure game. http://store.steampowered.com/app/214340/ |
| 03:26.32 | jleclanche | there's bundles in there too |
| 03:40.00 | Semlar | i got my labels printed neffi, it only took me like an hour to get them aligned properly |
| 04:23.12 | Neffi | sounds reasonable |
| 04:23.17 | Neffi | how does it look? |
| 04:25.51 | Semlar | pretty good, i'm probably going to wrap the soap in wax paper or something and label them |
| 04:26.17 | Semlar | i have to make sure it'll stick |
| 04:27.58 | Semlar | i think after my first batch i know what not to do with the rest of them |
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| 04:33.47 | Torhal | wonders if Semlar realizes he isn't a spider. |
| 04:34.39 | Semlar | >8< |
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| 05:47.41 | Fisker | tired |
| 05:47.44 | Fisker | hug Cairenn |
| 05:47.50 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 06:02.06 | mckenziemc | ow |
| 06:02.10 | mckenziemc | my burn hurts :( |
| 06:02.13 | mckenziemc | hugs Cairenn. |
| 06:02.21 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
| 06:06.38 | mckenziemc | Ressy: i had to drown a spider in rubbing alcohol yesterday :( |
| 06:07.33 | mckenziemc | i don't know what young black widows look like but i needed to preserve this one to figure out what it really is |
| 06:07.45 | mckenziemc | so i don't kill more spiders that might not actually be black widows :o |
| 06:21.55 | karl_w_w | ok next year i really need to do christmas shopping earlier |
| 06:22.16 | karl_w_w | not because I need to do it earlier, but because I get to choose the day I do it |
| 06:22.28 | karl_w_w | instead of having to do it when the temperature is 38 degrees |
| 06:28.47 | karl_w_w | oh, it reached 40.2 |
| 06:28.49 | karl_w_w | good times |
| 06:48.26 | Semlar | mckenziemc: a young black widow would be tiny |
| 06:49.28 | karl_w_w | and also not yet a widow |
| 06:49.54 | karl_w_w | so in other words, mckenziemc drowned a young black in booze |
| 06:51.46 | Semlar | they're also apparently white |
| 06:52.56 | Semlar | https://youtu.be/Xb1mNRw01Ak aww they're adorable |
| 07:38.07 | mckenziemc | Semlar: the instars are actually sizeable of the western variety |
| 07:38.28 | mckenziemc | apparently the mature ones are smaller |
| 07:39.49 | mckenziemc | unless there are two separate kinds here |
| 07:40.04 | mckenziemc | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:LatrodectusHesperus_1065.JPG i've had to kill a couple of these inside the house before |
| 07:43.06 | mckenziemc | https://sites.google.com/site/widowman10/widows/comparison-of-the-north-american-widow-species that photo O.O |
| 07:44.49 | Torhal | mckenziemc: That would appear to be Semlar saying "Hey, look at this!" to Neffi just before the toss. |
| 07:45.35 | mckenziemc | wth photobucket: http://s261.photobucket.com/user/widowman10/media/True%20Spiders/widows/slide2.jpg.html?t=1306268677 |
| 07:45.52 | mckenziemc | sends Torhal holiday photo cards |
| 07:45.59 | Torhal | Hawt. |
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| 07:47.57 | Semlar | a female black widow is like the size of your thumbnail and the males are super tiny |
| 07:48.20 | Torhal | That sounds kinda racist, Semlar. |
| 07:48.32 | Semlar | the babies would be pretty much unrecognizable |
| 07:48.37 | Torhal | :O |
| 07:48.49 | Semlar | it's not racist if it's true torhal |
| 07:49.15 | Torhal | But mckenziemc is never true to Amarande. |
| 07:49.53 | Torhal | I'm going to try to go to bed before Fisker misses me. |
| 07:50.39 | Semlar | h e y torhal |
| 07:50.50 | mckenziemc | i didn't say i thought what i found was a baby, Semlar |
| 07:51.08 | Torhal | You guys are weird, going around finding babies. |
| 07:51.21 | mckenziemc | do i need to send you more holiday photo cards Torhal |
| 07:51.42 | Torhal | No more nude selfies, mckenziemc - my eyes are still healing. |
| 07:52.34 | mckenziemc | dammit karl_w_w |
| 07:52.45 | mckenziemc | you and your hot 38C |
| 07:58.56 | Semlar | what's that in english |
| 08:04.26 | karl_w_w | 40 C is what it reached, 104 F |
| 08:04.46 | karl_w_w | 104.4 |
| 08:05.25 | mckenziemc | i doubt i was the only one who initially interpreted it as 38F |
| 08:05.41 | mckenziemc | then i remembered it's summer in the southern hemisphere |
| 08:06.19 | mckenziemc | something most americans probably couldn't comprehend |
| 08:06.37 | Semlar | it's basically summer here in florida |
| 08:06.43 | Semlar | ..all the time |
| 08:06.53 | Semlar | i have my air conditioner going |
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| 08:30.30 | mckenziemc | ohai bluspacecow |
| 08:30.36 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 08:31.01 | mckenziemc | ~shower bluspacecow |
| 08:31.01 | purl | *sniff* *sniff* hmmm, bluspacecow, you smell awful... you need a shower ASAP! |
| 08:31.11 | bluspacecow | but i just had one |
| 08:31.13 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 08:31.20 | mckenziemc | you need another :o |
| 08:31.37 | mckenziemc | and a better plumber |
| 08:31.43 | Phixion | ~tacklehug Fisker |
| 08:31.43 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tacklehugs Fisker |
| 08:31.48 | bluspacecow | i hate when you fart in the shower |
| 08:31.57 | Phixion | ew |
| 08:32.05 | bluspacecow | its like âfinally im cleanâ then iuts like âtoxic waste dump!" |
| 08:32.37 | bluspacecow | i have finally seen the new star wars movie |
| 08:32.43 | bluspacecow | the otters in it were awesome |
| 08:34.52 | Phixion | wow spoilers |
| 08:35.02 | karl_w_w | bluspacecowwwwwwwwww |
| 08:35.05 | bluspacecow | https://tribzap2it.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/rey-force-awakens-disney1.png |
| 08:35.07 | bluspacecow | otter! |
| 08:35.09 | karl_w_w | wrap presents for meeeeee |
| 08:35.36 | bluspacecow | http://static5.techinsider.io/image/562a822dbd86ef1c008c4513-1052-789/rey-crying-star-wars.png |
| 08:35.40 | bluspacecow | sad otter is sad :( |
| 08:35.42 | karl_w_w | it's the worst thing about christmas, other than all the other things that are the worst |
| 08:35.50 | Semlar | wow spoilers |
| 08:35.56 | Phixion | ^ |
| 08:36.02 | bluspacecow | *tapes car keys to karl_w_w* |
| 08:36.28 | mckenziemc | there's nothing otter than a bluspacecow? |
| 08:36.43 | bluspacecow | wtf |
| 08:36.51 | bluspacecow | https://wallpaperscraft.com/image/rey_star_wars_the_force_awakens_104304_2048x2048.jpg |
| 08:37.45 | bluspacecow | the entire force awakens cast is otters btw |
| 08:37.49 | bluspacecow | *ducks* |
| 08:38.36 | mckenziemc | no, geese |
| 08:38.45 | bluspacecow | oh yeah some geese |
| 08:39.24 | bluspacecow | http://imgur.com/gallery/1UvJJ |
| 08:43.40 | mckenziemc | where's the W bluspacecow :( |
| 08:44.22 | bluspacecow | at the end of my name |
| 08:44.54 | mckenziemc | whacks bluspacecow with a tennis racket. |
| 08:45.04 | VIad | I get christmas present from my student loan, how nice of them. Invoices are so rare to come by. |
| 08:45.11 | bluspacecow | thank you may i have another |
| 08:45.35 | mckenziemc | it could be worse VIad |
| 08:45.42 | mckenziemc | bats and things left presents for me in lava |
| 08:47.32 | mckenziemc | wall creeper massacre o.o |
| 08:47.44 | VIad | could be a foreclosure mail |
| 08:47.48 | VIad | luckily not yet |
| 08:49.00 | mckenziemc | D: |
| 08:51.22 | karl_w_w | i cant do it |
| 08:51.28 | karl_w_w | wrapping presents is too painful |
| 08:51.39 | mckenziemc | then don't do it |
| 08:51.45 | mckenziemc | just keep the presents for yourself |
| 08:52.09 | karl_w_w | psht i dont want this stuff |
| 09:04.08 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh_Rg6e4SY8 woo? |
| 09:11.48 | karl_w_w | i dont remember if there's ever been an episode of mr bean where he wraps a present, but im sure if there was that would be what it's like for me |
| 09:12.15 | bluspacecow | use cheap curtains and dont wrap them |
| 09:12.32 | bluspacecow | hide the present behind the curtain before you give it to them |
| 09:12.36 | bluspacecow | and be like TADAA |
| 09:13.15 | mckenziemc | hides bluspacecow in a car trunk. |
| 09:13.29 | bluspacecow | *leaps out at xmas time* |
| 09:13.31 | bluspacecow | TADAAAAA |
| 09:16.47 | karl_w_w | "just ignore the inconspicuous curtain" |
| 09:17.25 | bluspacecow | zee is nothzing behinds zee curtaiN! |
| 09:21.07 | bluspacecow | dang |
| 09:21.08 | bluspacecow | http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ACTI/957690511x0x860155/9F8D523C-7E61-4443-91E1-EB3A7DDFC7F1/FINAL_ID_Presentation_-_Small.pdf |
| 09:21.25 | bluspacecow | Kingâs active and unique users make Blizzardâs # of players like like gnats |
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| 09:50.31 | karl_w_w | 2 presents wrapped in an hour |
| 09:50.36 | karl_w_w | feels accomplished |
| 09:56.39 | Semlar | here karl_w_w http://i.imgur.com/hQkVEHp.gifv |
| 09:57.59 | karl_w_w | yeah I tried that Semlar, couldnt work out that second step |
| 09:58.09 | karl_w_w | where he folds over the second corner |
| 09:59.44 | Semlar | i just got done wrapping almost 30 bars of soap in wax paper |
| 09:59.52 | Semlar | i don't want to wrap anything else |
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| 10:06.30 | Rythal | I cheesed it and just asked my girlfriend to do all the wrapping |
| 10:07.41 | karl_w_w | next year I'll just get the charity wrappers to do it |
| 10:07.50 | karl_w_w | I'm pretty sure I said that last year |
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| 10:12.47 | Rythal | I did that one year, then when women (mom, sister etc) heard how much I had paid for it, started volunteering to do it instead for half the cost... so i've been having my mom do it every year before this one. |
| 10:21.56 | karl_w_w | they only charge a couple of dollars in these parts |
| 10:22.13 | karl_w_w | unrelated: https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=2483266 dude thinks cords will cause carpet to catch fire |
| 10:24.00 | Semlar | it sounds like he's talking about a cable with a transformer on it |
| 10:24.09 | Semlar | which would be weird for a desktop |
| 10:24.39 | karl_w_w | perhaps monitor? mine has transformer on the cable |
| 10:25.06 | Semlar | might just have laptop chargers plugged in too or something |
| 10:25.57 | Semlar | well, or he has some kind of setup where he actually has an adapter laying directly on the floor |
| 10:26.08 | Semlar | instead of in a normal power strip |
| 10:26.38 | Semlar | like plugged into an extension cord |
| 10:28.54 | Semlar | one of these things http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/BedBathandBeyond/8738314211640p?$478$ |
| 10:29.39 | karl_w_w | that usually keeps them off the floor |
| 10:29.48 | karl_w_w | I know cos that's what I have going on :P |
| 10:30.20 | Semlar | that thing would probably fall over with a brick in it |
| 10:30.47 | Semlar | maybe not |
| 10:31.41 | Semlar | anyway the computer itself probably wouldn't have an adapter but something like the modem or router would |
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| 10:40.36 | Semlar | oh god, my free month of netflix is up |
| 10:40.57 | Semlar | I MIGHT HAVE TO DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE |
| 10:41.59 | Semlar | nah, probably not |
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| 10:59.52 | karl_w_w | somebody link me anything on imgur |
| 11:02.45 | karl_w_w | never mind, I found a link |
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| 11:04.21 | Rythal | heh... seems the ddos's today ticked off someone, a new vid got released doxing applej4ck (head of lizard squad) and warning the rest will follow if they continue the childish games. |
| 11:04.50 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:05.33 | karl_w_w | potion seller, enough of these games! |
| 11:06.40 | Rythal | I'm watching cuz I bought 3 xbox ones for christmas :/ and if they really do take down live i'll have a very upset child who wants her minecraft on my hands |
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| 12:56.03 | karl_w_w | trying to find a song that you know nothing about is incredibly difficult |
| 12:56.19 | karl_w_w | especially when you heard it once and you don't know exactly what year it was you heard it |
| 12:57.36 | karl_w_w | and you won't necessarily recognise the song when you hear it |
| 13:23.48 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/uimj4kZ |
| 13:45.15 | karl_w_w | mikma, where do you think we are? |
| 13:46.11 | mikma | karl_w_w: :,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,/ fucker! |
| 13:46.24 | mikma | why would you do that to me?!? |
| 13:46.43 | mikma | i WAS having a happy day |
| 13:46.52 | karl_w_w | hah |
| 13:47.18 | karl_w_w | it's not even christmas day yet, I was just slowing you down so you don't burn out :P |
| 13:47.55 | mikma | yeah, because crying is so manly in christmas |
| 13:52.23 | karl_w_w | that episode was nothing |
| 13:52.55 | karl_w_w | I don't think an episode of TV brought me to tears after season 5 ep 16 of buffy |
| 13:52.58 | karl_w_w | that set the bar |
| 13:56.02 | mikma | i don't know what happened at that buffy because i've never watched it, but i take a wild guess: |
| 13:56.05 | mikma | stray bullet? |
| 13:57.33 | karl_w_w | no spoilerino, you'll have to watch all the episodes :P |
| 13:57.38 | karl_w_w | it's worth it! |
| 13:58.06 | karl_w_w | well OK, maybe the first season isn't that worth it |
| 13:59.14 | karl_w_w | the last person I convinced to watch buffy stopped raiding because he was binging on it |
| 13:59.18 | mikma | google ftw! (i don't like any vampire/zombie -stuff) |
| 14:00.32 | karl_w_w | i dont like any vampire/zombie stuff either |
| 14:00.52 | mikma | oh, that good then |
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| 14:02.44 | p3lim | Cairenn: https://i.imgur.com/B8jcUgZ.png |
| 14:04.34 | jleclanche | https://i.imgur.com/cHI7YS8.png how do i xml you guys |
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| 15:48.07 | Stanzilla | Simca: @halvarflake: Not sure if this is official, but it seems that Google has made BinDiff free :-) https://t.co/gIaLXIi4N7 (?) - waiting for official tweet. |
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| 16:05.42 | Simca | Stanzilla: neat |
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| 17:15.32 | d[karl]b | https://www.reddit.com/r/steamsaledetectives |
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| 17:24.22 | Fisker | not free here Stanzilla |
| 17:24.23 | Fisker | rip |
| 17:31.43 | Stanzilla | rip |
| 17:33.05 | Fisker | <3 |
| 17:41.00 | d[karl]b | <3 |
| 17:56.03 | znf | Ok. Who's got postfix experience? |
| 17:56.20 | znf | It seems than when I enable postgrey and/or amavis, my autovacation reply doesn't work |
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| 18:02.40 | Fisker | attacks Cairenn softly with a hug |
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| 18:09.17 | mckenziemc | attacks a large trout softly with Fisker. |
| 18:16.04 | Fisker | hey Seerah |
| 18:16.17 | Seerah | hey, Fisker |
| 18:16.23 | Fisker | uh oh |
| 18:16.25 | Fisker | how did you know? |
| 18:17.07 | Seerah | magic! |
| 18:17.20 | Seerah | waves her hands in the air |
| 18:17.31 | mckenziemc | how didn't *you* know, Fisker? |
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| 21:11.19 | Simca | Stanzilla: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3IDbQd92Ci8J:www.zynamics.com/software.html+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us |
| 21:11.32 | Stanzilla | oh nice thanks |
| 21:11.37 | Fisker | Hey Simca |
| 21:12.20 | Stanzilla | Simca: could have though of that myself though :D |
| 21:12.23 | Stanzilla | retard |
| 21:12.32 | Fisker | y |
| 21:12.38 | Fisker | However why bother? |
| 21:13.09 | Stanzilla | good tool to have |
| 21:14.15 | mckenziemc | doesn't bother not stabbing Fisker. |
| 21:14.58 | Fisker | Yeah sure but can't you find it on torrents or something? |
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| 21:22.55 | Stanzilla | rather have a license key from the official page |
| 22:16.25 | zenzelezz | when these Steam sales are on, I always feel like gifting Euro Truck Simulator or similar to friends, just to see their reaction |
| 22:34.33 | Amarande | zenzelezz: Big Rigs Over the Road Racing! :D |
| 22:34.42 | Amarande | actually, that would hopefully never make it on steam |
| 22:35.02 | Amarande | there's probably been games rejected from even the first stages of greenlight that are better than big rigs over the road racing LOL |
| 22:35.42 | fewyn | i want america truck simulator |
| 22:48.12 | zenzelezz | fewyn: I'm sure someone tried to do that, but when they realized they couldn't fit explosions or rifles in a sim, they dropped it |
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| 22:55.15 | Shirik | so google changed their "find my phone" system so that I have to confirm my login to use it |
| 22:55.29 | Shirik | the problem: I have two-factor authentication on my google account |
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| 22:55.34 | Shirik | ... so I need my phone to find my phone |
| 22:57.20 | zenzelezz | so you lost it someplace? |
| 22:58.59 | fewyn | zenzelezz: it's a real thing |
| 22:59.13 | fewyn | zenzelezz: http://www.americantrucksimulator.com/ |
| 22:59.21 | fewyn | from the people who make euro truck |
| 22:59.31 | fewyn | first version is going to be just cali |
| 22:59.32 | fewyn | i think |
| 23:00.00 | zenzelezz | oh, never heard of that one |
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| 23:02.11 | fewyn | it's not out yet |
| 23:02.24 | fewyn | well actually they just announced release date |
| 23:02.25 | fewyn | feb 3 |
| 23:02.34 | fewyn | http://steamcommunity.com/games/americantrucksimulator/announcements/detail/736700986549630485 |
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| 23:12.09 | Amarande | Shirik: yeah I've always wondered what happens with 2-factor in certain scenarios ... like say you lost your job or had a medical catastrophe or something and lost your phone number in the process |
| 23:12.18 | Amarande | = effectively permabanned from your account in that case? |
| 23:16.51 | fewyn | probably Amarande |
| 23:16.56 | fewyn | i know at apple if you lose the shit |
| 23:16.59 | fewyn | you're fucked |
| 23:17.05 | fewyn | you forget your security questions? |
| 23:17.07 | fewyn | fucked |
| 23:17.16 | fewyn | well that's if we don't have any alt info to verify |
| 23:17.23 | fewyn | and typically no one adds a rescue email |
| 23:17.31 | fewyn | or they lose their password to their emails too |
| 23:17.35 | fewyn | which just fucking boggles my mind |
| 23:17.43 | fewyn | also how can you forget something like what was your first car? |
| 23:17.48 | fewyn | or where your parents met? |
| 23:17.52 | fewyn | or your first kiss |
| 23:18.00 | fewyn | on any number of these super simple questions |
| 23:18.24 | Amarande | fewyn: probably people don't put the true answer to those |
| 23:18.26 | foxlit | security questions are bs and should be filled with random data as a matter of principle. |
| 23:18.33 | Amarande | foxlit: exactly |
| 23:18.34 | fewyn | well if you forget it |
| 23:18.36 | fewyn | sucks to be youuuuu |
| 23:18.45 | fewyn | all your music and purchases are gone |
| 23:18.46 | foxlit | as it happens, I did forget it |
| 23:18.47 | Amarande | yeah, this is pretty much the core of the security conundrum |
| 23:18.52 | foxlit | but no, it's recoverable. |
| 23:19.05 | fewyn | not if apple doesn't have anything on file to verify you with |
| 23:19.17 | fewyn | trust me i handle account security calls for them |
| 23:19.21 | Amarande | it's basically impossible to actually provide a proper security environment for accounts without also providing the possibility of permanent loss of such accounts |
| 23:19.39 | Amarande | and in the case of things like Google and to some extent Facebook, you have a house that Jack built scenario oncoming at that point |
| 23:19.46 | foxlit | or trust me, who went through this process a month ago? |
| 23:20.03 | fewyn | we can verify you with security questions, the last credit card that was on file (typically something that just expired from my experience that you threw out), your device if it's still enabled and not offline |
| 23:20.26 | fewyn | if you don't have any of those we will not be able to recover your account |
| 23:20.32 | Amarande | ironically, your google account should be the most secure for instance, but in reality it has to be the least, because few people are going to feel it acceptable to risk losing *all* their accounts |
| 23:20.39 | foxlit | I think losing all of those things requires a meteor hit. |
| 23:20.56 | fewyn | foxlit: i field several calls a week where this scenario happens |
| 23:21.01 | fewyn | breaks my heart there's nothing we can do |
| 23:21.06 | fewyn | but absolutely nothing we can do |
| 23:21.15 | Amarande | (and if you lose access to your gmail, then you might lose access to everything else that might demand an email identity confirmation, which can include your facebook, which is also used for confirming your identity places ...) |
| 23:21.27 | fewyn | they go like can i give you my licence? social security card? phone bill? something |
| 23:21.36 | fewyn | nope apple does not accept any of those |
| 23:21.42 | Amarande | fewyn: mind you, apple has a vested interest in that |
| 23:21.53 | Amarande | as in, repeat purchases of the same content :) |
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| 23:22.31 | Amarande | of course, that's assuming people even manage to make a new apple account without tears, since I'm assuming that means going to the rigamarole of setting up another email account, too |
| 23:22.46 | foxlit | so the scenario is, you forget your password, security questions, your credit card expires, and you have no logged-in apple devices? |
| 23:22.55 | Amarande | they might do something apple might like rather less (like change to android LOL) |
| 23:22.56 | fewyn | you're out of luck |
| 23:23.11 | Amarande | fewyn: no wonder android is gaining market share? :) |
| 23:23.24 | fewyn | I work for a contractor who takes phone calls |
| 23:23.39 | Amarande | ah, it's outsourced |
| 23:23.42 | fewyn | I handle account security (password resets), and technical support |
| 23:23.44 | fewyn | nope |
| 23:23.45 | Amarande | that's probably why recovery options are limited, then |
| 23:23.46 | fewyn | well yes |
| 23:23.49 | fewyn | nope |
| 23:23.54 | fewyn | they have their own departments too |
| 23:23.56 | fewyn | and call centers |
| 23:23.59 | fewyn | same exact policy |
| 23:24.07 | fewyn | same training too |
| 23:24.10 | Amarande | fewyn: as in expanding the options would also involve greatly expanding the attack surface for a data breach, due to the need to keep that much more info around for confirmation |
| 23:24.19 | fewyn | yep |
| 23:24.24 | foxlit | (to be fair, I had the easy case of this where only the security questions were bs, so virtually every other recovery mechanism applied) |
| 23:24.32 | Amarande | e.g., letting you provide your social security card would be useless unless your ssn is on file, and we know where this goes :) |
| 23:24.58 | fewyn | which is why if you don't have the very limited amount of information we have there's nothing we can literally do to make sure you are you in regards to the account |
| 23:25.06 | Amarande | fewyn: hope apple isn't losing an especially large number of customers right about now :S |
| 23:25.45 | Amarande | lots of people getting brand new apple devices, because it is xmas (therefore, large amount of device turnover) |
| 23:26.07 | Amarande | AND, because of recent financial changes, there's a ton of newly refreshed credit cards (because everyone's getting their chippy cards around now) |
| 23:26.15 | Amarande | which seems like a fertile ground for these account losses :| |
| 23:27.21 | Amarande | I guess we can blame Mark Zuckerberg :| |
| 23:29.02 | Amarande | well, mark zuckerberg and the fact that barely any web site ever lets you pick your own security question, so you are forced to choose a category that if answered truthfully is usually easily mined through your social presence |
| 23:30.19 | Amarande | trying to think of any site that actually lets you pick one ... actually I think Origin does |
| 23:30.23 | Amarande | which ... is kind of ironic LOL |
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