| 00:01.27 | Amarande | yeah, SW:TOR de-levels you for world zones as well, but arguably all zones are semi-instanced in SW:TOR |
| 00:02.01 | Amarande | (seeing that there are separate instances for load balancing, a la Guild Wars' districts, and planets are a lot more separate than zones in most mmos) |
| 00:03.29 | raylu | well ok, technically there's instancing |
| 00:20.55 | Stanzilla | Uh wowhead now has weakauras exports for every spell :O http://www.wowhead.com/spell=183924/sign-of-the-dark-star red button |
| 00:25.24 | Torhal | WAT |
| 00:26.01 | Alram | nice |
| 00:26.06 | Torhal | chaud: ^ |
| 00:26.57 | chaud | yes |
| 00:27.04 | chaud | they have had it for a while |
| 00:27.12 | Stanzilla | never noticed |
| 00:28.47 | chaud | well, a while in internet time |
| 00:28.56 | chaud | which is like a week for me |
| 00:31.47 | chaud | exactly a week apparently |
| 00:43.52 | Stanzilla | okay |
| 00:59.55 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 01:00.44 | Fisker | Hi :) |
| 01:01.09 | Fisker | Why can't I sleep like a person who spent 24+ hours not sleeping? |
| 01:01.15 | raylu | insomnia |
| 01:07.03 | Cairenn | exhaustion |
| 01:07.25 | Cairenn | it is possible to be so tired you can't sleep |
| 01:07.42 | Cairenn | *speaking from experience* |
| 01:07.57 | Torhal | I just did that. Got home 16 hours after I was supposed to. |
| 01:08.06 | Torhal | Yay airlines! |
| 01:08.13 | Fisker | Last time I slept like 12 hours after coming home :( |
| 01:09.57 | Torhal | So I ended up getting to sleep around 2AM my time after all that, and turning off my 9AM alarm. Woke up literally 4 minutes before a meeting. |
| 01:09.59 | Torhal | Was great. |
| 01:11.08 | Fisker | Nice |
| 01:12.35 | Cairenn | Torhal: my flights were all fucked up too |
| 01:13.53 | Torhal | Cairenn: All I got out of it was two $7 vouchers. United ended up paying $120 to shuttle me to LAX from SNA to catch a 10:40PM American flight. They denied me at the gate because even though I had a boarding pass (that I obtained 8 hours before boarding) my seat had someone else's name on it and the flight was full. |
| 01:14.12 | Cairenn | offs |
| 01:14.32 | Torhal | So I had to wait an additional 7 hours for another flight (after American sent me back to United). |
| 01:14.40 | Cairenn | ugh |
| 01:14.51 | Cairenn | Mine weren't -that- badly messed up |
| 01:15.14 | Torhal | I'm going to try to insist on Delta from now on/ |
| 01:15.29 | Torhal | American has always been bad, and even though United tried to make good it was still shit. |
| 01:18.19 | kd3 | ouch |
| 01:19.16 | Torhal | So instead of arriving at HSV at 9:30PM on Monday, it was 1:24PM Tuesday. |
| 01:21.15 | fewyn | Finally updating my laptop to windows 10... haven't used it in like 6 months. Going to use it with my new 3D printer (which arrives tomorrow) |
| 01:21.38 | Torhal | Nice |
| 01:22.31 | fewyn | can't wait to get my hands on the printer |
| 01:22.35 | fewyn | it's one of the kits |
| 01:22.39 | fewyn | so i have to build it |
| 01:22.53 | fewyn | specifically http://folgertech.com/collections/3d-printer-full-kits/products/folger-tech-reprap-2020-prusa-i3-full-aluminum-3d-printer-kit |
| 01:22.58 | fewyn | was about ~300 shipped |
| 01:23.48 | mckenziemc | maybe they did a better job with that one |
| 01:25.27 | mckenziemc | i have http://folgertech.com/products/folger-tech-reprap-prusa-i3-clear-frame-full-3d-printer-kit-ramps-gt2 |
| 01:25.56 | mckenziemc | it took quite a bit of assembly time and i still have to put more time into getting it to print well |
| 01:26.50 | mckenziemc | average wait time, 17 sec; time in queue, 13 min o.O |
| 01:28.25 | Torhal | You must be below average, mckenziemc. |
| 01:29.07 | mckenziemc | probably, i'm only level 71 |
| 01:29.32 | fewyn | you got the acrylic frame |
| 01:29.35 | fewyn | that might be why mckenziemc |
| 01:30.04 | fewyn | i haven't really heard anything bad about the printers tho |
| 01:30.18 | fewyn | they are a good "starter" printer from what everyone says |
| 01:30.21 | fewyn | and you can upgrade it |
| 01:30.57 | mckenziemc | it wasn't the frame that was the issue, fewyn |
| 01:31.42 | mckenziemc | there were issues with the instructions, plus i spent a large amount of time figuring out how to recover from a poor instruction they gave that led to having to replace electronics |
| 01:32.05 | mckenziemc | i still don't know if the arduino is salvageable |
| 01:33.43 | mckenziemc | fewyn: well let me know how it goes for you, i was actually considering buying another to use for prototyping some design modifications |
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| 01:39.25 | Amarande | Torhal: there's a reason United is consistently one of the three or four worst airlines in America |
| 01:40.26 | Torhal | Amarande: They at least tried to make it right. American, on the other hand, basically just said "No, fuck off. We don't care that you have a boarding pass with your name on it; go back to United." |
| 01:40.31 | Amarande | (no seriously, there's a couple of guys who do a survey of airlines, one of them the Dean of the College of Aviation at Embry-Riddle ... and United almost always gets rated at or near the bottom of the barrel) |
| 01:40.46 | Amarande | ahh |
| 01:40.52 | Amarande | I'm not sure I've ever had the ill fortune to fly American |
| 01:41.13 | Amarande | I usually fly Delta when the price doesn't seem totally insane, or if it is, Southwest |
| 01:41.48 | Amarande | Lack of sleep when getting home from a trip is pretty much de rigeur for me, though |
| 01:42.21 | Amarande | mainly because I frequently get back to New York too late to catch the last bus back up to Connecticut, so I have to hang around Times Square until 6:15AM (and if it's a Saturday, 9AM *yawn*) |
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| 01:43.18 | Fisker | Hey Torhal |
| 01:43.23 | Fisker | ð |
| 01:43.28 | Torhal | Hey Fisker |
| 01:43.29 | Torhal | Emoji? |
| 01:43.33 | Fisker | Yes |
| 01:44.07 | Amarande | wait, since when did hexchat support emojis |
| 01:44.10 | Amarande | or are they part of unicode |
| 01:45.37 | raylu | unicode |
| 01:47.33 | raylu | http://graphemica.com/%F0%9F%98%98 |
| 01:47.47 | raylu | see also: http://unicodesnowmanforyou.com/ |
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| 01:55.57 | Fisker | misses Cairenn and hugs Cairenn |
| 01:56.14 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 01:56.38 | mckenziemc | it missed, Cairenn |
| 01:56.49 | Fisker | calls in a favour and hugs Cairenn |
| 01:57.31 | mckenziemc | cheater |
| 02:03.31 | Torhal | He had to earn that favor by chugging an entire bottle of Everclear, mckenziemc. |
| 02:08.16 | mckenziemc | immerses Torhal in dimethylol dihydroxyethyleneurea. |
| 02:09.01 | Torhal | converts mckenziemc to eukaryotic cells. |
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| 02:12.50 | Fisker | Hey Seerah |
| 02:12.59 | Fisker | hugs Seerah and hugs Cairenn |
| 02:13.14 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker and Seerah |
| 02:13.22 | Seerah | hugs Cairenn and Fisker |
| 02:13.46 | Fisker | is crushed by hugs |
| 02:13.48 | mckenziemc | hugs Fisker asd Seerah and Cairenn and Torhal. |
| 02:14.35 | Cairenn | hugs mckenziemc |
| 02:14.41 | Cairenn | hugs allllll the peoples |
| 02:14.44 | A-KO | holy shit. |
| 02:14.48 | A-KO | I updated my addon for the first time in years |
| 02:14.52 | A-KO | that wasn't just a TOC update.... |
| 02:14.53 | A-KO | lol |
| 02:15.11 | Torhal | A-KO: Whoah. |
| 02:15.22 | Torhal | tosses mckenziemc into a vat of hugs. |
| 02:16.25 | A-KO | Someone wanted a small bug fixed, so I fixed it... |
| 02:18.05 | kd3 | you bastard! what kind of person fixes bugs? |
| 02:18.24 | A-KO | I know, right? |
| 02:18.26 | A-KO | holy crap |
| 02:18.29 | A-KO | And, AND.... |
| 02:18.32 | A-KO | I might just add a *feature* |
| 02:18.33 | A-KO | holy crap |
| 02:18.48 | A-KO | actually I kinda really like the idea so the groundwork is going in on that one, too :P |
| 02:19.07 | Fisker | Hey kd3 |
| 02:19.34 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 02:19.48 | Fisker | Super hey |
| 02:23.26 | Torhal | A-KO: You fiend. |
| 03:13.58 | Seerah | A-KO: gotta earn that author t-shirt ;) |
| 03:14.33 | Rythal | wait... people are suppose to release updates? and fixes? |
| 03:17.36 | Seerah | sitting here typing up summaries of my classes from today and I'm so pissed at one of my subs from Monday... I left packets that teach how to do rhythms and time signatures for my voice class of 2 young girls - to serve as a review for them and to help their sub know how to do what they were working on. On the lesson plan I said to read through it "together". |
| 03:17.47 | Seerah | Today (we didn't have class yesterday) they said that she just gave it to them and told them to do it by themselves or work together and she basically just sat there the whole time doing nothing. They got tons of stuff wrong because they were confused on the directions and one girl's confidence was shattered for half the class from it. /grrrr |
| 03:18.28 | Seerah | I already didn't like that lady. |
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| 03:47.29 | airtonix_ | Seerah, that's life. |
| 03:48.11 | airtonix_ | people often don't walk on eggshells as a business model |
| 03:48.30 | airtonix_ | unless you work for kotaku i guess |
| 03:49.12 | Iriel | Or an eggshell flooring company |
| 03:49.49 | Seerah | airtonix_: I'm confused, I guess, on what that has to do with my story |
| 03:50.13 | raylu | me too... |
| 03:50.29 | airtonix_ | confidence as a function of other people |
| 03:50.55 | Seerah | we're talking about an 8 year old girl at a special needs school |
| 03:59.16 | kd3 | wow https://twitter.com/ExoCharbonneau/status/664517706511753216 |
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| 04:19.34 | Rythal | Interesting.. blizz tried to file a lawsuit against *buddy bots... but named one of the programmers instead of the owners of the company. |
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| 04:23.11 | karl_w_w | http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/411695,asus8217s-flagship-mobo-is-the-most-expensive-board-we8217ve-seen.aspx when a motherboard costs more than your whole PC |
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| 04:38.06 | Amarande | karl_w_w: ... and on top of that you're stuck with an LGA115x style socket |
| 04:38.16 | Amarande | seriously, for that kind of price you ought to at least get the latest flavour of LGA2011 :| |
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| 04:47.11 | karl_w_w | implying 1151 is dead-end and 2011 isn't |
| 04:54.30 | mckenziemc | implying Amarande occasionally makes sense |
| 04:57.34 | Amarande | karl_w_w: I presume they'll get around to the latest incarnation of 2011 for Skylake-E when that hits, assuming it doesn't continue to use 2011-3 |
| 04:57.54 | Amarande | point is, a mobo that expensive ought to be the extreme socket, not the mainstream consumer tier one :S |
| 04:58.28 | Amarande | You wouldn't buy a turbocharger for a Ford Focus, would you? :) |
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| 05:13.13 | mckenziemc | i think i just found my new expletive of choice |
| 05:13.19 | mckenziemc | "damnarande" <3 |
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| 07:03.21 | Fredro | Torhal, great :) |
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| 11:19.03 | karl_w_w | aww yeah, 1 hour naps |
| 11:45.17 | Phixion | nice |
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| 12:50.38 | karl_w_w | http://www.businessinsider.com/jon-gruber-intel-x86-dead-platform-walking-2015-11 |
| 12:50.49 | karl_w_w | apple fanboy logic just makes me facepalm |
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| 13:00.19 | Neffi | well that's it, pack it up boys |
| 13:00.23 | Neffi | the bloggers have spoken |
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| 14:42.03 | Gnarfoz | people like that should look into what's powering all their fancy "cloud services" |
| 14:42.12 | Gnarfoz | (hint: it's not ARM) |
| 14:42.47 | nevcairiel | ARM is trying to push into servers though |
| 14:42.51 | nevcairiel | but not really there yet |
| 14:48.38 | Arrow|work | dont think it will happen |
| 14:53.06 | VIad | karl_w_w: I think everything is dead except arm used in apples ipad with his logic :p |
| 14:54.47 | VIad | besides arm was invented to be better when used in small devices right? low power consumption |
| 14:56.06 | VIad | just google arm x86 and you will find posts nearly 5 years old regarding that subject |
| 14:59.42 | VIad | screw you all, going to Intel x512, decades a head of what you x64 scrubs are using |
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| 15:10.36 | karl_w_w | obviously google search results are rigged to be anti-Apple VIad :P |
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| 15:55.01 | nevcairiel | Since Intel hasn't had to compete with anyone on high-end x86, they have been focusing on low power as well, and their new gens of atom chips can easily compete with ARM |
| 15:57.31 | Amarande | well yeah, especially since atom actually runs "real computer applications" |
| 15:57.46 | Amarande | while ARM is mostly good for running mobile crap apps :) |
| 15:58.07 | Amarande | at least unless you can get your hands on an ARM device *before* it's been all locked down to run only one OS and have the chance to put debian on it |
| 16:00.14 | Maldivia | Amarande: you mean something like a sparc T5-8 ? |
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| 16:11.27 | Amarande | Maldivia: one, how much do those cost |
| 16:11.52 | Amarande | and two, are those *actually* open for OS experimentation or has oracle included some kind of secret sauce crap in the firmware so you need solaris for drivers? |
| 16:12.19 | Amarande | remember, it's Oracle, pretty much every evil conspiracy theory except for the most absolutely lunatic ones is pretty much fair game LOL |
| 16:33.22 | fewyn | so my brother's blazer is having a problem with the brakes.... he has to push it all the way down to the floor to make it stop.... any ideas on possible problems? he just had the calipers replaced and his brake fluid is full |
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| 16:43.45 | fewyn | looks like it could be the master cylinder |
| 16:45.28 | pompy | kd3: https://www.facebook.com/topic/San-Francisco/107752695914863?source=whfrt&position=3&trqid=6216302903421515552 :o |
| 16:55.34 | Torhal | pompy: I love this comment - "omg my mom is in that hospital..I barely heard this news about an hour ago. WTF. thank god no one was hurt gotta go and see my mom first thing before anything fuck school I gotta see if my mom is okay I'd freaking die if something were to happen to her!" |
| 16:55.55 | karl_w_w | sorry fewyn, jackets don't have brakes :P |
| 16:56.08 | Torhal | I'll fix it: "first thing before anything after posting this ranting Facebook message" |
| 17:04.20 | nevcairiel | I was going to say maybe he wrote this while on the bus to the hospital or something, but then I remembered that US and public transportation don't go well together :P |
| 17:06.53 | pompy | heh |
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| 17:39.35 | karl_w_w | if only there were other people there to shoot him down before he started shooting people, right gun fans? |
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| 18:07.23 | fewyn | the hardest part of getting a new toy |
| 18:07.24 | fewyn | Expected Delivery Day:Thursday, November 12, 2015 |
| 18:10.16 | Ressy | what'd you order? |
| 18:10.55 | fewyn | my 3d printer |
| 18:10.57 | fewyn | :D |
| 18:11.16 | fewyn | it's out for delivery |
| 18:12.38 | karl_w_w | what'd it cost you? |
| 18:13.22 | zenzelezz | 3D printer? Sweet |
| 18:13.41 | fewyn | 300$ karl_w_w |
| 18:13.42 | fewyn | shipped |
| 18:13.44 | fewyn | it's a kit |
| 18:13.49 | fewyn | so i have to build it |
| 18:13.54 | fewyn | https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9b1NbuMK524fldIWWVCa0xfSXAtZmttcDhrbjBMeFNWcENBdVUzWnhtWDZ2YWdHVXpoUXM&authuser=0 |
| 18:14.01 | fewyn | wrong link |
| 18:14.02 | karl_w_w | then all you'll need is the kat |
| 18:14.03 | fewyn | http://folgertech.com/collections/3d-printer-full-kits/products/folger-tech-reprap-2020-prusa-i3-full-aluminum-3d-printer-kit |
| 18:16.38 | karl_w_w | hah, shipping to australia |
| 18:16.48 | karl_w_w | USPS Priority Mail International at $ 114.45 USD |
| 18:16.55 | karl_w_w | UPS Saver at $ 360.32 USD |
| 18:18.25 | fewyn | there's probably a local shop that resells it karl_w_w |
| 18:18.43 | karl_w_w | hmm |
| 18:19.04 | karl_w_w | I'm not planning to actually buy it, I just like laughing at shipping sometimes |
| 18:19.12 | karl_w_w | but I doubt that "probably" |
| 18:19.54 | fewyn | i bet there's a 3d printing company that sells similar models |
| 18:19.58 | fewyn | in aus |
| 18:20.05 | fewyn | i'd eat my hat if there wasn't |
| 18:30.55 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvxLombFIvc spoilerific trailers certainly aren't anything new :P |
| 18:42.39 | Shirik | fun C++ language defect of the day: |
| 18:43.11 | Shirik | C++ now supports creating "custom prefixes" so you can do something like 3e6_m to say "3e6 meters" |
| 18:43.28 | Shirik | custom suffixes* |
| 18:43.32 | Shirik | if you define a suffix _e: |
| 18:43.33 | zenzelezz | damnit Shirik |
| 18:43.34 | Shirik | auto y = 0e1_e+0; // Error |
| 18:43.34 | Shirik | auto z = 0e1_e +0; // OK |
| 18:43.44 | zenzelezz | I was about to make fun of your confusing prefix and suffic |
| 18:43.46 | zenzelezz | *x |
| 18:43.53 | Shirik | because apparently 0e1_e+0 is a valid token |
| 18:44.36 | Shirik | as far as the preprocessor is concerned, 0e1_e+0 is a number, not two numbers combined with addition |
| 18:45.13 | kd3 | I uh... |
| 18:50.32 | zenzelezz | Shirik: https://twitter.com/JamesMcNellis/status/595319864912384001 because unicode and suffixes |
| 18:50.43 | Shirik | lmao |
| 18:51.07 | fewyn | windows 10 fall update is now rolling out http://www.windowscentral.com/whats-new-windows-10-fall-update |
| 18:52.54 | Shirik | fwiw zenzelezz officially the C++ standard does not allow for unicode |
| 18:53.07 | Shirik | for that matter, the C++ standard doesn't even allow ... I think it was @ it doesn't allow |
| 18:53.30 | Shirik | it was $ |
| 18:53.37 | Shirik | you can't have $ in your code according to the C++ standard |
| 18:53.55 | Shirik | oh @ is also missing lol |
| 19:03.06 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 19:03.09 | Fisker | also hey Shirik |
| 19:07.50 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 19:08.39 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
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| 19:10.16 | fewyn | I really should find more recipes that I can precook/package in vacuum seal bags and freeze... the turkey meatballs I cooked and froze last week turned out excellent last night. |
| 19:12.43 | Unkle | Send massive doses of caffeine and/or amphetamines. |
| 19:18.50 | kd3 | coffee please. cold in the office today |
| 19:18.59 | kd3 | even after sealing the living daylights out of it |
| 19:21.04 | Unkle | I left the house at 7:15, and used transit to get to the office. By 10:30. I'm beat. |
| 19:21.12 | kd3 | oof |
| 19:21.20 | kd3 | they still haven't fixed your ride? |
| 19:23.30 | Unkle | New Engine arrives on Monday. |
| 19:24.11 | Unkle | So I should get it back maybe Friday next week? |
| 19:24.43 | Unkle | And MAN do I want it back, SO MUCH. |
| 19:30.46 | zenzelezz | new engine? |
| 19:33.28 | Gnarfoz | yeah, he's updating his car to Unreal Engine 4 |
| 19:34.30 | Torhal | bans Gnarfoz from Punland. |
| 19:35.26 | zenzelezz | whenever I see "New Engine" capitalized like that, I just think of Anarchy Online |
| 19:35.27 | Unkle | My car is being rewritten in Unity for Mobile. |
| 19:35.52 | Torhal | Unkle: Is that to keep it mobile? >.> |
| 19:35.58 | Unkle | Correct! |
| 19:42.04 | fewyn | yesss it's here |
| 19:42.05 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/fewyn/status/664890853098418176 |
| 19:42.08 | Unkle | My train ride this morning involved sitting next to to game programmers for mobile platforms discussing Unity ad nauseam. |
| 19:42.23 | Unkle | Excellent. |
| 19:46.08 | karl_w_w | oh good, I can't wait til I get to turn off the new shit they are putting in win 10 |
| 19:49.12 | dolby | oh no Torhal http://boredomtherapy.com/cat-makes-you-crazy/ |
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| 19:53.11 | dolby | fewyn: the price on that printer is pretty good. very tempting! |
| 19:53.23 | fewyn | yes dolby that's why i bought it |
| 19:53.26 | fewyn | the deal was too good |
| 19:53.30 | fewyn | and i read good reviews on it |
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| 20:01.13 | dolby | looks like a fun build too |
| 20:03.16 | fewyn | yeah |
| 20:03.22 | fewyn | first time i've done anything like this |
| 20:03.25 | fewyn | so it'll be interesting |
| 20:04.02 | fewyn | i need to find a place to get a borosilicate 8x8 glass sheet |
| 20:04.09 | fewyn | i got normal glass for now |
| 20:04.39 | fewyn | which will probably break at some point |
| 20:06.13 | Unkle | I'd like to have a 3D printer, but I have nowhere to put such a thing at the moment. |
| 20:06.57 | dolby | they say home depot or lowes |
| 20:07.16 | fewyn | they don't sell the glass at home depot or lowes |
| 20:07.19 | fewyn | i had to go to a local shop |
| 20:07.26 | dolby | ahh |
| 20:07.30 | fewyn | they only sell the plastic "glass" at lowes/home depot |
| 20:07.34 | fewyn | at least the ones around here |
| 20:17.12 | karl_w_w | 14 hours VIad :D |
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| 20:28.55 | Torhal | dolby: Heh, I've known about that for years. :D |
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| 21:54.19 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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