| 00:00.16 | Guill | Yup! Like I said, really only tested it for the specific use-case we had |
| 00:01.50 | Semlar3 | don't worry, i'll test it for everything it wasn't designed for |
| 00:03.52 | Semlar3 | it doesn't have to do much to actually apply the snapshot to a texture after it takes it, right? |
| 00:04.17 | Semlar3 | like if you wanted to apply the same snapshot to multiple textures |
| 00:14.56 | Guill | Semlar3: Correct. Applying should be fairly cheap |
| 00:16.35 | Semlar3 | it's like calling SetTexture? |
| 00:17.59 | Arrow|work | boss man says i cant take tomorrow off but i might be able to leave thursday |
| 00:19.15 | Guill | Semlar3: I believe it's actually reusing the same texture in the background. So it's probably even cheaper than calling SetTexture by texture name |
| 00:20.04 | Semlar3 | alright, so displaying a ton of the same texture should be fairly minimal |
| 00:27.47 | Guill | Semlar3: I don't know about minimal. But shouldn't be much more expensive than displaying a ton of standard textures |
| 00:28.24 | Neffi | ok this is getting out of hand |
| 00:28.32 | Neffi | 3 of you is simply way too many Semlar3 |
| 00:32.02 | Semlar | >_> |
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| 00:49.43 | Semlar | thanks Guill |
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| 01:17.34 | Guill | Semlar: I'm curious to see what you come up with |
| 01:18.00 | Semlar | i'm thinking about using it to make a 3d map |
| 01:18.29 | Semlar | it's going to be a lot more efficient than what i had before |
| 01:18.58 | Semlar | and more importantly less math |
| 01:19.32 | Guill | Semlar: Haha, interesting |
| 01:20.07 | Semlar | since the world map is made up of a bunch of separate base textures plus the overlay textures on top of those i can just snapshot all of them together and make 1 texture that i can feed into my 3D simulator thing |
| 01:20.45 | relaxok | I've never gotten the world map to show up |
| 01:21.06 | Neffi | relaxok: what exactly was your issue that had to do with the TaxiFrame? |
| 01:21.13 | Semlar | i have to rewrite what i had, but it'll look something like this http://i.imgur.com/7prV9f6.gifv guill |
| 01:21.30 | Semlar | except you know, not just one texture |
| 01:22.00 | relaxok | Neffi: I think i said in the scroll but.. that one template was the only place in the whole UI that references a parent before the parent is defined |
| 01:22.06 | Neffi | you should write a 3D game engine in WoW so we can game while we game, dawg |
| 01:22.19 | Neffi | relaxok: yeah, why does that matter? |
| 01:22.53 | relaxok | Neffi: because I set the parent to a pointer, via a map of names to pointers.. so if it doesn't exist yet it has no parent |
| 01:23.06 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/sAKYREc.gifv |
| 01:23.09 | Neffi | pointer? Lua has no pointers |
| 01:23.15 | relaxok | Neffi: C++ side |
| 01:23.16 | Amarande | Neffi: I tend to prefer to actually have a guild that's not terminally distracted, when I actually have a guild with people on to begin with |
| 01:23.27 | Amarande | you're making me think of that time when there was an addon that let you play Bejeweled in WoW :( |
| 01:23.56 | Amarande | and half the guild would be busy playing bejeweled instead of, say, wow |
| 01:24.03 | relaxok | Neffi: this is my whole facsimile-of-the-real-thing backend |
| 01:25.17 | relaxok | there are other problems that so far are not catastrophic but aren't really solvable.. such as that some UI elements inherit from templates that are types that are technically a different type at the same point in the hierarchy |
| 01:25.35 | relaxok | which i guess the client allows but oops i didnt plan for |
| 01:26.44 | Amarande | relaxok, if you're going to program your own wow-ish mmo |
| 01:26.52 | relaxok | i forget some specific examples, but i think some Sliders inherit Buttons sometimes or something |
| 01:26.56 | Amarande | you don't *have* to redo blizzard's mistakes on your side, yanno? :) |
| 01:27.54 | relaxok | Amarande: yeah I mean i definitely don't have to, but if i want to use the xml/lua that's there to support all the same features i kind of need workarounds at least |
| 01:28.09 | relaxok | Amarande: one broken chain in the UI load and tons of stuff might not work |
| 01:28.33 | relaxok | i have a function whose sole purpose is to set up whatever hackery workarounds i need |
| 01:36.40 | relaxok | it currently looks like this: |
| 01:36.56 | relaxok | http://pastie.org/private/1a1kgvsj0vfjcyfmddnava |
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| 01:43.26 | Arrow|phone | So everything is doable but now I need to wait till tomorrow to see if I can get vacation approval |
| 01:43.44 | Arrow|phone | I'm fucking crazy for doing this |
| 01:52.53 | Semlar | Guill: http://gfycat.com/ConventionalDefiantAtlanticridleyturtle |
| 01:55.06 | relaxok | thats cool as hell |
| 01:55.10 | Guill | Semlar: I'm not sure what the use of that is, but it definitely looks cool! |
| 01:55.39 | Semlar | i don't worry about that sort of thing |
| 01:56.46 | relaxok | how are you doing that? |
| 01:57.00 | Semlar | lots of textures |
| 01:57.35 | Semlar | each horizontal line is a separate texture |
| 01:57.43 | relaxok | but how are you creating them? |
| 01:58.37 | Semlar | with an addon |
| 01:58.40 | Guill | Semlar: Couldn't you do something similar with 1 texture with non-rectangular tex coords? |
| 01:58.41 | Semlar | i'm not sure what you mean |
| 01:59.00 | Semlar | i don't think you can do it with one texture |
| 01:59.18 | relaxok | Semlar: i mean are you somehow drawing a new texture each fream for every row? |
| 01:59.20 | Guill | I mean, all you're doing there is skewing the texture, right? |
| 01:59.20 | relaxok | frame* |
| 02:00.24 | Semlar | every line is set to the same texture, it's just changing their texture coordinates when it needs to be updated |
| 02:00.26 | Neffi | Guill: The problem is, the edge repeats indefinitely then |
| 02:00.46 | relaxok | Semlar: that sounds like some fun math |
| 02:00.54 | Guill | Neffi: You can turn off texture wrapping when you call SetTexture |
| 02:00.59 | Semlar | nah there's an issue with how SetTexCoord works that prevents you from doing it with one texture |
| 02:01.08 | Neffi | Guill: How? |
| 02:01.12 | relaxok | Semlar: can you change all 3 angles of the projection? |
| 02:01.15 | relaxok | Semlar: like fully 3d |
| 02:01.37 | Semlar | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_7 this is the method i'm using |
| 02:01.54 | Guill | Neffi: 2nd/3rd arguments of SetTexture are uWrapping, vWrapping |
| 02:02.04 | Guill | Neffi: Also, there's some XML tag to do it, but I don't remember what it is |
| 02:02.11 | Neffi | I have no idea of this. Thanks. |
| 02:02.37 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure SetTexture only has the option to tile or repeat the edge pixel |
| 02:03.06 | Guill | Semlar: Sure, but if you just make sure the edges are all alpha that works just fine |
| 02:03.26 | Semlar | well yeah but if you're using in-game textures that's not necessarily an option |
| 02:03.28 | Neffi | so you'd need to replicate every map texture in the addon folder, except modified to have a transparent edge |
| 02:03.45 | Semlar | although you can use snapshot to give you a transparent edge |
| 02:03.49 | Guill | Semlar: Agree. But if you're using your own texture created by OffScreenFrame, it should be |
| 02:04.08 | Guill | Semlar: You're right that your approach might be more general |
| 02:06.29 | Semlar | Guill: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48832#2 if you look at the grid in this post i think it's an issue with how SetTexCoord works |
| 02:07.30 | Semlar | i don't know if you can avoid creating distortion |
| 02:10.39 | Guill | Semlar: Have you tried it with non Interface/Icons textures? Those work a little different from all other textures. (They actually get atlased at run-time behind the scenes.) I wouldn't be surprised if something is broken with those specifically. |
| 02:11.28 | relaxok | i didnt know stuff got atlassed, that is pretty cool |
| 02:11.39 | relaxok | how big is the host texture? |
| 02:12.02 | Guill | Don't remember off-hand |
| 02:12.09 | Semlar | yeah it's not just the icons |
| 02:13.05 | Semlar | granted i'm not that great with math so it could be the matrix transformation |
| 02:13.19 | fewyn | Arrow|phone: i don't think it's going to pass |
| 02:13.35 | fewyn | it's currently 66% no at 15% reported |
| 02:13.52 | Semlar | but it seemed like the problem was that SetTexCoord was twisting the top left corner one way and the bottom right corner another way |
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| 02:18.39 | relaxok | ah here's a problem example |
| 02:19.00 | relaxok | <Frame name="VideoOptionsSliderTemplate" inherits="OptionsSliderTemplate" virtual="true"> |
| 02:19.27 | relaxok | <Slider name="OptionsSliderTmemplate" orientation="HORIZONTAL" virtual="true" enableMouse="true"> |
| 02:19.49 | relaxok | so it's a Frame element that inherits a Slider |
| 02:19.55 | relaxok | doh |
| 02:24.22 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/HfL2Phm.jpg i think it would make a neat minimap |
| 02:30.27 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/jqA7yOF.jpg it's beautiful neffi |
| 02:30.56 | Neffi | now do it with minimap textures, make google earth |
| 02:31.31 | relaxok | lol |
| 02:31.42 | Neffi | it is neat Semlar, but I know you will never release it |
| 02:31.47 | Neffi | ;) |
| 02:32.06 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/Ka86IlC.jpg |
| 02:32.45 | Neffi | can you vary the angle with this method? |
| 02:32.57 | Semlar | yeah i can zoom out and in |
| 02:33.06 | Neffi | but not the angle? |
| 02:33.13 | Semlar | well that adjusts the angle |
| 02:33.36 | Neffi | it's cool but the angle seems too steep for everyday use |
| 02:33.41 | Semlar | if you mean go from looking straight down to looking forward |
| 02:33.49 | Neffi | yes |
| 02:45.36 | Semlar | i might need to add a way to adjust the horizon |
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| 03:19.31 | fewyn | rip no legal marijuana in ohio this year |
| 03:19.37 | fewyn | there's always next year |
| 03:19.58 | fewyn | the gerrymanding bill passes tho |
| 03:20.11 | fewyn | and the monopoly bill looks like it will too which is good |
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| 03:29.04 | Fisker | Hey foxlit |
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| 04:26.06 | Mr_Rabies | ohi ohio it's round on the end and hi in the middle |
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| 04:48.39 | Arrowmaster | fewyn: issue2 is bad |
| 04:49.10 | Arrowmaster | and issue1 has finally passed after being on the ballot for many years, yay |
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| 05:23.06 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: So you're making it to BC? |
| 05:24.55 | Thordurin | get a conference room Torhal? :P |
| 05:25.10 | Torhal | Thordurin: No idea. I didn't plan the last one. |
| 05:25.18 | Torhal | Got a $150 credit for it :D |
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| 05:42.34 | mckenziemc | sends Torhal 2015 years back in time. |
| 05:46.20 | Semlar | rude |
| 05:46.31 | mckenziemc | Semlarude. |
| 05:46.50 | Semlar | sandstorms mckenziemc |
| 05:47.08 | mckenziemc | extrudes Semlar onto Neffi's bed. |
| 05:47.25 | Neffi | eww it's all sticky |
| 05:47.37 | mckenziemc | ): |
| 05:48.05 | Semlar | that was there when i got here |
| 05:49.23 | foxlit | LAX CBP: it's queues all the way down. |
| 05:49.54 | mckenziemc | don't forget the LAXative this time |
| 05:50.57 | foxlit | also involves a staggering amount of humans who could be replaced by static signage. |
| 05:51.24 | Semlar | you aren't supposed to objectify people foxlit |
| 05:52.09 | foxlit | class Semlar extends Person { |
| 05:52.32 | mckenziemc | replaces Semlar with a Port-A-Potty. |
| 05:52.38 | Semlar | wow rude |
| 05:52.50 | mckenziemc | more cost-effective too |
| 05:54.42 | foxlit | void releaseAddon() { throw new OperationNotSupportedException(); } |
| 05:54.45 | foxlit | } |
| 05:54.52 | Semlar | >_> |
| 05:55.57 | foxlit | *\(^o^)/* |
| 05:58.31 | Semlar | places a 3ml container of liquid in foxlit's carry-on |
| 05:59.59 | foxlit | are we metric yet? |
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| 06:02.24 | mckenziemc | it's 3 miles long, foxlit |
| 06:06.20 | Iriel | is mostly unprepared to leave for Blizzcon tomorrow, hopefully I'm more together in the morning |
| 06:12.00 | mckenziemc | isn't going and hugs Fisker since Cairenn isn't here. |
| 06:13.12 | Thordurin | I get real hugs from Cairenn is 2 days :D |
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| 07:06.44 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/z6VMV23.jpg is this better neffi |
| 07:11.20 | Neffi | so will you release this one? |
| 07:11.21 | Neffi | ;) |
| 07:12.00 | Semlar | depends on how much gets finished |
| 07:12.57 | Semlar | i need to figure out the coordinates to get it to actually follow you and scale things correctly |
| 07:19.50 | Torhal | You should never have released Neffi, Semlar. He's doing shit like coding while having a TV show in in a tiny window at the corner of his screen. Like a savage. |
| 07:20.09 | Neffi | no trust me |
| 07:20.11 | Neffi | it's cool |
| 07:20.14 | Neffi | you should try it |
| 07:20.22 | Semlar | distractions! |
| 07:21.36 | Neffi | also the window is like 12" diagnolly. that's a good size for having some cartoons on in the background |
| 07:22.30 | Torhal | Savage. |
| 07:22.38 | Neffi | D: |
| 07:23.02 | Neffi | Semlar, what should I code? |
| 07:23.24 | Torhal | Next thing you know, you'll have PornHub on during Thanksgiving dinner. |
| 07:23.47 | Neffi | of course not. it'd just be weird to have TWO porn videos on at once |
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| 14:29.17 | Arrow|work | i got vacation approval! |
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| 14:29.31 | Ressy | yay! |
| 14:29.53 | Ressy | Don't forget to add yourself to the UI dinner |
| 14:32.19 | Arrow|work | is there room or is there always room for me? |
| 14:32.34 | Arrow|work | and i need on the list for curse party |
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| 15:03.42 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 16:42.33 | Stanzilla | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/careers/posting.html?id=15000XZ SENIOR SOFTWARE ENGINEER, CLASSIC GAMES Weâre restoring them to glory, and we need your engineering talents, your passion, and your ability to get tough jobs done. |
| 16:43.20 | nevcairiel | Old, saw that on mmoc this morning! |
| 16:44.45 | fewyn | that's awesome |
| 16:44.48 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 16:44.50 | Stanzilla | missed that |
| 16:46.50 | nevcairiel | Everyone speculating what it could possibly mean |
| 16:47.39 | Stanzilla | exactly what it says |
| 16:47.40 | Stanzilla | hd remakes |
| 16:48.45 | nevcairiel | That's your speculation |
| 16:49.31 | Stanzilla | what else could it be |
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| 17:09.25 | Simca | what it says specifically is fixing errors, overflows, etc to make them work on modern systems |
| 17:09.38 | Simca | it doesn't say anything about updating graphics or gameplay |
| 17:10.48 | fewyn | yeah |
| 17:10.52 | fewyn | i'd be fine with that |
| 17:10.54 | fewyn | tbqh |
| 17:31.48 | Stanzilla | Simca: "Create conditions for experiences that look as good as they play." |
| 17:31.57 | Stanzilla | sounds like graphics to me |
| 17:31.58 | Stanzilla | but dunno |
| 17:35.19 | Iriel | Ok, i'm off to the land of Blizzcon! |
| 17:35.35 | Maldivia | Iriel: enjoy, have fun! |
| 17:36.08 | Iriel | Thanks - 400 miles of boring driving before any fun. |
| 17:37.31 | Maldivia | pick up a hitchhiker! |
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| 17:44.56 | Constie | I'm glad we're finally getting World of Blackthorne. |
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| 18:22.19 | zenzelezz | "You must restart your system before using Adobe Acrobat Reader DC"... Adobe, what on earth did you change for that to be true? (Which it usually isn't, but that's besides the point) |
| 18:35.19 | Constie | It's remarkable how bad PDF readers are. |
| 18:48.08 | meribold | Which one are you using? |
| 18:48.29 | meribold | I read about markers in mupdf today and it's not really useful at all |
| 18:48.33 | Stanzilla | lol adobe |
| 18:48.35 | Stanzilla | reader |
| 18:48.55 | Stanzilla | SumatraPDF |
| 18:50.50 | fewyn | the built in one on windows is nice |
| 18:50.55 | fewyn | at least the 8/10 one |
| 18:55.49 | winny | yeah mupdf leaves lot to desire |
| 18:55.54 | winny | but it's a nice lightweird reader |
| 18:56.02 | winny | tbh M-x docview is nice too |
| 18:58.14 | fewyn | ugh i really want to play a single player game but i don't know what |
| 18:59.19 | Stanzilla | tomb raider |
| 19:00.00 | Semlar | warcraft |
| 19:00.19 | winny | skyrim |
| 19:00.21 | winny | yw |
| 19:01.30 | fewyn | i can never get into Skyrim |
| 19:03.54 | winny | borderlands |
| 19:09.09 | Constie | I've been enjoying TIS-100 a lot. |
| 19:10.15 | meribold | winny: of course there's an M-x docview |
| 19:10.27 | meribold | winny: gonna try that now |
| 19:13.25 | meribold | to bad it doesn't work with evil-mode |
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| 19:14.20 | meribold | apparently it uses mupdf as a backend |
| 19:30.59 | winny | neat-o |
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| 19:47.21 | Gnarfoz | Foxit has served me well, even though it has gained dumb cloud features along the way |
| 19:57.50 | Simca | ^ |
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| 20:03.00 | Gnarfoz | hm, do we have someone with a batteltag of "MortalKiller" in here? |
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| 20:30.23 | Constie | That sounds like it's probably Semlar. |
| 20:30.46 | Semlar | :| |
| 20:31.02 | Semlar | there's a spreadsheet of battle tags in the topic |
| 20:31.37 | Semlar | for stalking purposes |
| 20:31.53 | zenzelezz | I bet half of you are just ||||||||| anyway |
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| 20:38.23 | Gnarfoz | Semlar: I checked that first, nobody by that name in there |
| 20:47.40 | karl_w_w | https://twitter.com/needadebitcard |
| 20:47.45 | karl_w_w | idiots everywhere |
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| 20:49.21 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: ... |
| 20:55.18 | karl_w_w | even linus did it |
| 20:56.14 | Primer | Wasn't someone here recently saying how their nvidia driver stopped working in windows 10? |
| 20:57.12 | Primer | This is now happening to me. Laptop was fine in windows 8, was able to play WoW no problem, then upgraded it to windows 10, and "The driver has stopped responding, it was restarted, etc.." |
| 21:13.10 | Primer | Oddly, only Geforce Experience causes the problem |
| 21:13.17 | Primer | I was able to play WoW just fine |
| 21:17.29 | Semlar | http://gfycat.com/ImpressiveHiddenImago here neffi |
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| 21:21.07 | Semlar | http://gfycat.com/HealthySnarlingAfricangoldencat here's zoomered out |
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| 22:08.47 | Neffi | Semlar: does it take up 200% cpu? |
| 22:08.55 | Semlar | nah |
| 22:09.06 | Neffi | awesome. release it nao? |
| 22:09.45 | Semlar | well, i found out my transformations are assuming the map is square |
| 22:09.58 | Semlar | so it's actually distorting it more than it should be |
| 22:10.57 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.14 | Neffi | that looks like that "maths" stuff foxlit is always talking about |
| 22:12.20 | Neffi | are you trying to summon c'thulhu? |
| 22:12.28 | Semlar | maybe |
| 22:12.54 | Semlar | i'm certainly not trying to do something productive |
| 22:13.12 | Neffi | oh, ok, good |
| 22:20.18 | Semlar | o wait i fixed it |
| 22:20.21 | Semlar | thanks neffi |
| 22:20.34 | Neffi | no problem, glad I could help |
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