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| 00:41.19 | Cairenn | Don't forget to sign up for the BC dinner if you want to go this year. |
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| 03:16.04 | Fisker | tired |
| 03:16.07 | Fisker | hug Cairenn |
| 03:16.15 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 03:16.25 | Fisker | :) |
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| 05:49.49 | Shirik | On Tuesday, North Korea warned the United States and its allies that it is ready to use nuclear weapons "at any time" and is expected to launch a new satellite using a long-range rocket sometime in the coming weeks. |
| 05:49.56 | Shirik | I'm amused by that second part |
| 05:50.05 | Shirik | are they aware that we launch new satellites on like a weekly basis? |
| 05:53.26 | Dagmar | ...or that we don't define "satellite" as "box wrapped in tinfoil hanging from a baloon" |
| 06:08.38 | Shirik | kd3: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Mendezes_Cousins&diff=prev&oldid=681589539 |
| 06:08.41 | Shirik | Dagmar: lol |
| 06:09.40 | Dagmar | They have trouble getting their long-range rockets to even land in deep water |
| 06:09.56 | Dagmar | I've no idea how they expect to hit US targets, or deal with what the rest of the world would do to them for even trying |
| 06:10.15 | Dagmar | Even China would roll right over them for that |
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| 06:46.12 | mckenziemc | Males [western black widow] are known to show preference for mating with well-fed females over starved ones, taking cues from the females' webs. |
| 06:46.14 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 06:46.50 | mckenziemc | but it does say two sentences before that cannibalism is rare in the western type :< |
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| 07:38.44 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 07:51.49 | NuSuey | :/ |
| 07:52.00 | NuSuey | hey |
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| 08:03.28 | NuSuey | so, I asked about this a long time ago, but what would be the easiest way how to get the cinematics IDs (for example 14 being the wrathgate cinematic) after each patch/content update is released? anyone who could give me a hand with this |
| 08:04.58 | nevcairiel | find the dbc file its in, parse it |
| 08:07.35 | NuSuey | any more info about that nevcairiel? guess I'll google more, but if anyone can give me more info I'll be more than happy |
| 08:08.35 | Stanzilla | can also look at bigwigs/littlewigs code for the feature that skips them |
| 08:10.21 | Gnarfoz | that feature requires manual updating as well, so it doesn't really get him what he's after |
| 08:10.23 | NuSuey | but the skipping part is easy.. I don't think he provides the ID lists there |
| 08:11.32 | Gnarfoz | NuSuey: foxlit's LuaCASC is probably state of the art, https://www.townlong-yak.com/casc/ |
| 08:11.37 | NuSuey | I have a list of IDs till 6.0 but after that I haven't updated it.. but the list came from the awesome people of #wowuidev and I don't want to ask for help but instead to do this all alone |
| 08:18.10 | NuSuey | guess I'll google some more.. thanks for the tips |
| 08:50.40 | Gnarfoz | hm? |
| 08:50.58 | Gnarfoz | do you need anything else besides what I linked? |
| 08:51.52 | nevcairiel | foxlit even had some online dbc parser somewhere |
| 08:51.54 | nevcairiel | i forgot the link |
| 08:57.21 | nevcairiel | found it https://www.townlong-yak.com/wdbc/#f:JournalTier.dbc |
| 08:57.29 | nevcairiel | just need to figure out which dbc to open |
| 08:59.33 | nevcairiel | maybe this https://www.townlong-yak.com/wdbc/#f:Movie.dbc |
| 09:02.52 | Gnarfoz | happy denormalizing |
| 09:07.23 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/tLxTIJv |
| 09:09.26 | Fisker | science damn you mikma |
| 09:09.43 | Fisker | confers with his lawyer and hugs Cairenn |
| 09:09.51 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 09:10.11 | Fisker | I've prepared a statement |
| 09:10.22 | Fisker | Cairenn did in no shape or form coerce me into hugging her |
| 09:11.36 | Gnarfoz | I allege she did, by being most awesome |
| 09:24.47 | Fisker | preposterous! |
| 09:24.59 | Fisker | blushes and flees the courtroom |
| 09:42.01 | NuSuey | nevcairiel: oh what is that site :O |
| 09:43.16 | NuSuey | nevcairiel: yup thats exactly the IDs I wanted.. <3 love you |
| 09:46.14 | NuSuey | I will remember this great deed nevcairiel.. |
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| 09:47.20 | karl_w_w | well, my ram keeps passing tests and it's worrying me more each time |
| 09:48.14 | karl_w_w | with all 4 sticks in I can't boot at the ram's advertised speed without blue screening |
| 09:49.23 | karl_w_w | but each stick on its own passes a prime95 test, and now it looks like each slot tested on its own is fine as well |
| 09:51.03 | karl_w_w | i guess i'll try 2 sticks with them in dual channel, if that passes I'm out of ideas |
| 09:52.24 | NuSuey | weird :o |
| 09:53.42 | karl_w_w | shrugs and shuts down |
| 09:56.21 | NuSuey | but that brings me back to my sad admission.. I only have 4gb of ram in my PC :X ouch |
| 09:58.16 | nevcairiel | i should upgrade to 64, jsut because i can |
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| 09:58.38 | karl_w_w | looking good with 2 sticks |
| 09:58.58 | karl_w_w | maybe I'll put all 4 in and it'll just work magically |
| 09:59.01 | karl_w_w | Kappa |
| 09:59.22 | Fisker | I should as well nevcairiel |
| 09:59.28 | Fisker | But I didn't know they had 16GB modules yet :< |
| 09:59.50 | nevcairiel | i could do that without 16gb modules |
| 10:00.04 | nevcairiel | just need to fill the 4 free slots |
| 10:01.30 | nevcairiel | but i would have to dismantle the CPU cooler to access them, so 32gb has to be enough! |
| 10:02.10 | karl_w_w | fingers crossed for inexplicably working ram |
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| 10:07.44 | karl_w_w | instantaneous rounding error with 4 sticks in |
| 10:08.12 | karl_w_w | the memory controller is on the CPU right? maybe the CPU is dodgy |
| 10:10.24 | nevcairiel | depends on your CPU |
| 10:10.31 | nevcairiel | but most newer ones have it integrated yes |
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| 10:15.21 | karl_w_w | the one thing I didn't expect was how much faster windows starts with 16 GB vs 8 GB |
| 10:48.08 | Gnarfoz | also many mainboards and/or CPUs require lower frequencies at full load |
| 10:48.32 | Gnarfoz | i.e. just because you bought 4 2133 MHz modules doesn't mean you can actually run them that way |
| 10:49.14 | Gnarfoz | (not to mention that Intel's DRAM controllers support only far lower frequencies than you can buy DRAM modules for) |
| 10:51.21 | karl_w_w | well the board supports up to 3600, the ram i have is 2666 |
| 10:52.56 | karl_w_w | and the chip is an i5-6600k |
| 10:59.07 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: as long as they actually have a Intel XMP profile, they should just run like they are meant to |
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| 11:31.33 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: not sure where you got that number from, your CPU supports up to 2133 (DDR4) or 1600 (DDR3) http://ark.intel.com/products/88191/ |
| 11:32.13 | karl_w_w | http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z170%20Extreme4/?cat=Specifications |
| 11:32.29 | Gnarfoz | the controller is in the CPU as you previously said |
| 11:32.31 | karl_w_w | I haven't heard a single report of Skylakes not supporting overclocked ram |
| 11:33.17 | Gnarfoz | yeah, all of those frequencies are marked (OC). so you're having stability problems while overclocking |
| 11:35.03 | karl_w_w | all DDR4 ram above 2133 is overclocked |
| 11:35.15 | Gnarfoz | exactly |
| 11:35.39 | karl_w_w | if overclocking ram doesnt work I'd be very surprised |
| 11:35.41 | Gnarfoz | (well, until someone starts offering a controller that officially supports it) |
| 11:36.14 | Gnarfoz | what can I say? you're operating outside of spec and are having issues, there's nothing to fix besides trying again with parts that have wider tolerances :( |
| 11:36.16 | karl_w_w | considering there would be thousands of people all over the internet asking why their ram sold at X speed is not working |
| 11:36.19 | Gnarfoz | at least that's the obvious issue to me |
| 11:37.21 | karl_w_w | considering XMP is an intel feature |
| 11:37.26 | Gnarfoz | many of those people probably never bothered to manually set the frequency to what they want, instead going with defaults (that are most likely not above what the memory controller can do) |
| 11:37.37 | Gnarfoz | that feature only specifies a set of data |
| 11:37.48 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't mean "hurr durr anything that supports XMP will work" |
| 11:38.19 | karl_w_w | nor am i manually setting a frequency |
| 11:38.21 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I don't have anything more constructive to offer, so good luck :| |
| 11:39.39 | Gnarfoz | the vendor does specify a frequency the CPU is not guaranteed to be able to work with in the XMP data, so, yeah, by proxy, you are :D |
| 11:40.05 | Gnarfoz | have you tried running it at lower frequency, but all modules in? |
| 11:40.16 | Gnarfoz | vs. testing with various amounts of modules |
| 11:41.01 | karl_w_w | yes it works at 2133 |
| 11:42.10 | karl_w_w | and if intel doesnt support xmp i would consider this page false advertising http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/extreme-memory-profile-xmp.html |
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| 12:21.06 | Gnarfoz | you seem to be confused about what XMP *is* and what it guarantees |
| 12:22.01 | NuSuey | btw, any good domain name registerars? been using dynadot.com so far.. was wondering if there is something better :) |
| 12:23.04 | Kalroth | i use joker.com but never used anything else, so can't really compare |
| 12:25.54 | Gnarfoz | I heard gandi.net recommended a bunch of times, but I personally use www.dd24.net (and Hetzner for one other) |
| 12:27.52 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: to elucidate on that (I had food fingers and will have them again in a minute, nom nom): even that page says (see footnote) that they don't guarantee anything out of spec. XMP is just a specification for a /profile/ of data, because before that, there was just "put something n the SPD chip... maybe" with different "somethings" depending on DIMM manufacturer |
| 12:28.46 | Gnarfoz | buying memory modules with XMP only guarantees that there's an easy way to pick the settings the manufacturer says you should use... not that they're going to be compatible with your CPU/mobo |
| 12:30.01 | Gnarfoz | oh and I guess I also use Internetworx (inwx) now as a registrar |
| 12:59.11 | Dagmar | It keeps one of my boards from picking stupid speeds by default |
| 12:59.32 | Dagmar | Half the time I feel like I'm whacking new boards with a rolled up paper saying "No! 1866 damnit!" |
| 13:00.53 | Dagmar | Hilariously, one of my motherboards is supposed to be overclocker-friendly... picks a _slower_ speed for my RAM by default than the max according to the spec. |
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| 14:28.37 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/pRAPctYX |
| 14:28.52 | foxlit | almost certainly the wrong numbers. |
| 14:34.16 | Gnarfoz | iLib for 299$ |
| 14:35.15 | foxlit | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/ilib/ |
| 14:35.53 | Gnarfoz | "force on" = "focus on"? |
| 14:36.40 | foxlit | who knows. |
| 14:36.57 | Gnarfoz | the author, possibly, but we can't be sure |
| 14:38.19 | foxlit | local _G = getfenv(0) |
| 14:38.26 | foxlit | well, that's always a good sign. |
| 14:38.40 | nevcairiel | maybe its just very old? |
| 14:39.39 | foxlit | this was LibDialog; we can ask Torhal. |
| 14:40.31 | nevcairiel | maybe someone stole his G |
| 14:40.46 | foxlit | (some of those 0s are unrealistic, so I'm slowly tracking down what gives) |
| 14:41.19 | foxlit | in this case, _G.assert(LibStub, MAJOR .. " requires LibStub") |
| 14:41.48 | foxlit | or hm, maybe not. |
| 14:50.08 | foxlit | it was local _G = getfenv(0) local LibStub = _G.LibStub LibStub:NewLibrary() :( |
| 14:50.46 | nevcairiel | tripple indirection is screwing you over eh? |
| 14:52.08 | foxlit | mm, I don't actually have proper constant propagation/control flow logic. |
| 14:52.46 | foxlit | so it goes "okay, this _G is possibly the global namespace", "but this LibStub thing indexes a table, so who knows what happens" |
| 14:53.09 | foxlit | if it just went _G.LibStub:NewLibrary(), it would've been fine. |
| 14:55.05 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 14:55.10 | Fisker | sometimes hey nevcairiel |
| 14:55.10 | foxlit | hey Fisker. |
| 14:55.23 | mckenziemc | redirects Fisker's output to /dev/null |
| 14:55.26 | foxlit | you know what you should do, Fisker. |
| 14:55.27 | Fisker | Are you going to land of the free and the home of the brave foxlit ? |
| 14:55.33 | Fisker | What should I do? |
| 14:56.38 | foxlit | the same thing you did last time around, obviously :) |
| 14:56.40 | Ackis | hey Torhal - I have someone I'm going to send your way - they just sent me a steam message: "can u give me the stuff i used your referral before" |
| 14:57.06 | mckenziemc | ~smackis |
| 14:57.06 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
| 14:59.24 | foxlit | Fisker: which is to say you should sign me up for free food. |
| 14:59.38 | VIad | is it me, or is it when there is a draenor mythic dungeon week, then the naval chest doesn't appear? |
| 15:00.07 | nevcairiel | Dunno, mine should be up on the weekend sometime |
| 15:00.10 | nevcairiel | I think |
| 15:01.52 | VIad | it was exactly 7 days for me |
| 15:01.56 | VIad | each tuesday |
| 15:02.04 | VIad | but last week i didnt do it until wednesday |
| 15:02.09 | VIad | so I expected it to appear this wednesday too |
| 15:02.27 | VIad | like literally the last weeks have been really accurate, each tuesday around 20pm :p |
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| 15:26.56 | nevcairiel | They are only every 2 weeks |
| 15:31.49 | VIad | ah alright |
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| 15:32.01 | VIad | then next wednesday :D |
| 15:32.21 | VIad | though at this point its like 1% chance I get an upgrade |
| 15:32.30 | VIad | 1/howevermanyitemsyoucanget |
| 15:32.41 | VIad | the sword, and I dont know if it even can drop from a bag |
| 15:32.46 | VIad | archimonde |
| 15:33.10 | nevcairiel | No weapons, sets or class trinkets in the bag |
| 15:33.24 | VIad | great |
| 15:33.44 | VIad | at least knowing its obscolete content I dont have to camp out for it anymore :D |
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| 16:15.25 | Fisker | You're late |
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| 18:13.04 | Kraps | not enough |
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| 18:28.32 | Kraps | this worked http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/tidy-plates/forum/help/83097-problem-with-patch-6-2-2/#p4 |
| 18:35.36 | foxlit | dammit, that ticket tracker |
| 18:36.50 | foxlit | it's like 2 solid pages of "halp this does not work in 6.2.2!" |
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| 18:52.02 | Kesava | #lol |
| 18:56.20 | Semlar | edits foxlit.lua |
| 18:56.59 | Semlar | refactors as foxlit.xml |
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| 18:58.11 | kd3 | hm. quassel at home doesn't want to connect to freenode, but I get on no problems at work? |
| 18:58.56 | Semlar | different routes |
| 18:59.39 | Semlar | maybe a firewall |
| 18:59.55 | foxlit | or a series of tubes, Semlar? |
| 19:00.14 | Semlar | yeah maybe one of the tubes sprung a leak |
| 19:00.21 | Semlar | or got clogged up |
| 19:34.04 | foxlit | local LibStub = assert(LibStub, "LibStub is required.") -- hate. |
| 19:36.12 | foxlit | I mean, you could just crash on the next line as you attempt to use that variable, and the end result would be the same. |
| 19:49.48 | nevcairiel | but no fancy message! |
| 19:50.03 | nevcairiel | its just a sanity check anyway |
| 19:50.44 | foxlit | but now I have to know what "assert" is and does. |
| 19:51.47 | foxlit | attempt to call local 'LibStub' (a nil value) is pretty fancy, too :P |
| 19:53.15 | foxlit | and heaven help me if you also have local assert = _G.assert, or worse, if you're me, and have local function assert(...) in that scope. |
| 20:41.58 | mckenziemc | assert(is_sane(foxlit), "foxlit is not sane") |
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| 21:18.28 | zenzelezz | Android Studio really loves to generate deep directory structures |
| 21:18.43 | Trela | Java, Java does. |
| 21:21.16 | zenzelezz | hm, I suppose that could be it... I've never really used java before |
| 21:21.51 | zenzelezz | particularly unfortunate when your colleagues love to use VeryLongAndAwfullyElaborateYetOftenInaccuratelyNamesClasses.java |
| 21:22.05 | zenzelezz | *Named |
| 21:23.35 | Trela | Yep and for some reason because it is Java will use "Very/Long/And/Awfully/Elaborate/Yet/Often/Inaccurately/Names/Classes/VeryLongAndAwfullyElaborateYetOftenInaccuratelyNamesClasses.java" as the folder strucutre. |
| 21:23.39 | Trela | *structure. |
| 21:24.10 | zenzelezz | "because fuck you, that's why" springs to mind |
| 21:25.38 | Trela | Most of the time those folders will only contain the next folder and nothing else. :| |
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| 22:11.26 | Shirik | not sure if this was a wallop or not but just in case |
| 22:11.27 | Shirik | [02:43:49] [mquin] [Global Notice] On or around Friday, October 2nd we will be cleaning up the services database. Now's a good time to ensure you identify to services when connecting. Check out http://blog.freenode.net/2015/09/services-database-purge/ for more. |
| 22:16.41 | zenzelezz | expire separately, so I'd have to identify for my aliases too? |
| 22:16.46 | zenzelezz | cheers for the heads up |
| 22:20.41 | Primer | wtf, I never id to services |
| 22:20.44 | Primer | I hate that shit |
| 22:21.22 | Primer | or do I? |
| 22:26.06 | kd3 | you're authed |
| 22:27.39 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Trela: http://projects.haykranen.nl/java/ |
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| 22:31.03 | zenzelezz | Shirik: lol |
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| 22:55.39 | Shirik | Microsoft made a linux distribution |
| 22:55.46 | Shirik | not particularly surprising, but definitely interesting |
| 23:02.30 | kd3 | huh, didn't even notice the topic was updated for the community dinner |
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| 23:15.52 | Unkle | Quite the rogue's gallery of miscreants. |
| 23:23.50 | foxlit | sneaks up and moves the apostrophe while no one is looking. |
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| 23:35.13 | kullervo | "why's my fps so low, what did I break" |
| 23:35.21 | kullervo | turns out fraps was on >_> |
| 23:45.46 | foxlit | popquiz: C_Timer.After(0, func) <-- does func get called during the current frame, or during the next frame? |