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| 00:06.43 | Amarande | mckenziemc: hah, these days, if your mouse doesn't have so many buttons as to resemble a reverse golf ball, people will say it's not a real gaming mouse :) |
| 00:07.24 | mckenziemc | whacks Amarande with a golf club. |
| 00:09.42 | mckenziemc | five underscores now Thordurin____? |
| 00:09.56 | mckenziemc | err, Thordurin_____ >.> |
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| 01:22.43 | kullervo | I wonder if there's an addon to auto hide cape when mounted |
| 01:29.01 | mckenziemc | Outfitter |
| 01:29.24 | mckenziemc | :) |
| 01:33.01 | kullervo | seems to do quite a bit of other things too |
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| 01:48.05 | fewyn | so i left the house today not expecting to get a tattoo and i ended up getting one ¯\_(ã)_/¯ https://twitter.com/fewyn/status/630866639601463296 |
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| 01:57.01 | mckenziemc | why didn't you get Torhal's face? |
| 02:00.00 | Torhal | installs Windows 10 on mckenziemc's cerebral cortex. |
| 02:00.12 | mckenziemc | evades. |
| 02:02.37 | Thordurin_____ | What did he have installed before? |
| 02:02.45 | fewyn | ms dos probably |
| 02:05.23 | mckenziemc | Sentience OS version ____ |
| 02:12.05 | fewyn | https://abc.xyz/ |
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| 02:15.07 | mckenziemc | questions fewyn's intent. |
| 02:15.49 | Thordurin | new Google parent company |
| 02:18.09 | mckenziemc | questions Thordurin's tail-less existence |
| 02:18.52 | Thordurin | don't have to have a tail to be awesome. |
| 02:19.32 | Thordurin | Get a hug from Cairenn = you're awesome |
| 02:19.46 | Cairenn | lol |
| 02:19.50 | Cairenn | hugs everyone |
| 02:19.53 | mckenziemc | but i can't grab you by the tail if you don't have one |
| 02:20.23 | Thordurin | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTqXEQ2l-Y |
| 02:20.36 | Thordurin | Why would you want to grab me sir? :( |
| 02:21.31 | mckenziemc | who wouldn't |
| 02:22.24 | znf | I should stop browsing facebook at 5am |
| 02:22.31 | znf | I tend to click on shoe ads |
| 02:22.39 | mckenziemc | fortunately it's 7 PM |
| 02:23.01 | Thordurin | yes because PST is the best timezone |
| 02:23.10 | znf | and I tend to buy shoes |
| 02:23.18 | znf | and 5am it's a perfect time to have your keyboard battery run out |
| 02:23.21 | znf | >_< |
| 02:24.31 | mckenziemc | it's 6 PM PST Thordurin :) |
| 02:25.16 | Thordurin | uh |
| 02:25.41 | Thordurin | I haz 7:25 |
| 02:25.52 | mckenziemc | you also haz PDT |
| 02:26.28 | Thordurin | fair enough |
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| 03:08.14 | kullervo | so uh, I re: capes when mounted, I just made a weak aura to hide it |
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| 03:10.57 | Guest35733 | Why |
| 03:11.33 | kullervo | because the model clips into mounts and looks bad |
| 03:11.36 | kullervo | especially on the ravens |
| 03:12.05 | Guest76303 | I can't connect, I can't identify, Freenode just hates me |
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| 03:13.17 | Guest99514 | stab stab stab |
| 03:13.19 | Guest99514 | stabs Nickserv again |
| 03:15.31 | mckenziemc | o.O |
| 03:15.51 | Guest99514 | I think I've fixed everything except that I have no idea what my password is lol |
| 03:16.02 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 03:16.25 | mckenziemc | casts Revive in Guest99514's general direction |
| 03:18.35 | mckenziemc | just call yourself TheRealShirik and all will be solved |
| 03:18.42 | Guest99514 | I like |
| 03:18.51 | Guest99514 | I can't even think of any other passwords I've had in the past 10 years |
| 03:18.58 | Guest99514 | I don't use passwords |
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| 03:19.55 | mckenziemc | freenode or email |
| 03:20.24 | Guest99514 | freenode is one of the only things where I'm required to use a password |
| 03:20.27 | mckenziemc | you can message nickserv for a password reset |
| 03:20.35 | Guest99514 | I tried |
| 03:20.41 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 03:20.42 | Guest99514 | it would appear it's on an ancient email address |
| 03:20.50 | mckenziemc | gg |
| 03:35.05 | Fisker | trips, falls and hugs Cairenn |
| 03:35.19 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 03:38.54 | Guest99514 | freenode has confirmed for me that there is no password attempt limit |
| 03:39.11 | Guest99514 | so far I have tried 29 passwords |
| 03:43.29 | ccox | figures this is just the Anti-Shirik fishing for password ideas to break into Shirikâs super secret document stash |
| 03:49.23 | Guest99514 | I do not understand what password I could have missed |
| 03:50.21 | Fisker | hey Guest99514 |
| 03:50.32 | Guest99514 | hey Fisker |
| 03:50.49 | mckenziemc | ShirikLikesMLPonies ? |
| 03:51.04 | Guest99514 | I have so many people trying to get me to become a judge for that TCG |
| 03:51.05 | Guest99514 | omg |
| 03:51.20 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 03:51.23 | Fisker | can confirm it's Shirik |
| 03:51.30 | Fisker | Blizzcon Guest99514 ? |
| 03:51.38 | Guest99514 | probably no blizzcon :< |
| 03:52.06 | Fisker | Can confirm Guest99514 is a fraud |
| 03:53.40 | mckenziemc | so Fisker |
| 03:53.43 | mckenziemc | my rest is gone |
| 03:53.46 | mckenziemc | arrests Fisker. |
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| 04:00.50 | Guest99514 | well that at least worked |
| 04:00.59 | Guest99514 | so I know nickserv isn't pissed at me |
| 04:01.12 | Kraps | ~ping |
| 04:01.12 | purl | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss |
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| 04:15.36 | Guest49047 | I am now proceeding to write a program to find my password |
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| 04:21.08 | Guest49047 | omfg |
| 04:21.09 | Guest49047 | I found it |
| 04:21.14 | Guest49047 | holy shit that was way too hard |
| 04:22.11 | Guest49047 | [21:21:02] [NickServ] 123 failed logins since last login. |
| 04:22.13 | Guest49047 | lmao |
| 04:23.06 | Mr_Rabies | lmao |
| 04:23.15 | Mr_Rabies | did you just brute force it? |
| 04:25.14 | mckenziemc | so what was it :) |
| 04:26.09 | Mr_Rabies | hunter2 |
| 04:26.37 | mckenziemc | probably pa$$w0rd |
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| 05:02.24 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 05:07.40 | mckenziemc | what's the syntax to make a castsequence reset after a certain number of seconds? |
| 05:08.06 | kd3 | http://wow.gamepedia.com/Castsequence |
| 05:08.19 | Neffi | resets mckenziemc. |
| 05:11.24 | Torhal | sets Neffi's catssequence. |
| 05:11.33 | Neffi | :3 |
| 05:11.44 | Neffi | sequences Torhal's cats. |
| 05:11.51 | Torhal | :O |
| 05:13.19 | Neffi | you made iriel leave! |
| 05:15.50 | Torhal | NO U |
| 05:17.45 | Neffi | :( |
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| 06:29.31 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 06:29.38 | Shirik | did you see that impostor? |
| 06:33.11 | mckenziemc | at least he could spell right |
| 06:33.55 | mckenziemc | composts Shirik. |
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| 06:38.50 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 06:38.50 | Fisker | yep |
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| 06:51.25 | mckenziemc | bluipodspaceimpostercow? |
| 06:53.32 | bluspacecow | lolwat |
| 06:55.13 | mckenziemc | exactly what a bluipodspaceimpostercow would say |
| 06:57.15 | bluspacecow | its a conspiricy ! |
| 07:15.29 | mckenziemc | conspires with Shirik to imprison bluspacecow until the real one shows up to identify this imposter. |
| 07:15.42 | bluspacecow | :( |
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| 07:50.23 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/Ntnweep |
| 07:51.30 | mckenziemc | knits karl_w_w until he weeps. |
| 07:51.59 | karl_w_w | so you're in to knitting? |
| 07:52.15 | mckenziemc | no but that only makes it better |
| 07:53.30 | mckenziemc | or worse, depending on which perspective we're talking about |
| 07:58.58 | bluspacecow | mmmmmmmm |
| 07:59.02 | bluspacecow | best fried chicken |
| 07:59.37 | mckenziemc | not as good as deep fat fried space cow |
| 08:06.02 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 08:08.15 | mckenziemc | wow... |
| 08:08.41 | mckenziemc | https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pusilin+wowpedia&t=ffab "Did you mean palin wikipedia?" |
| 08:09.07 | mckenziemc | maybe that will turn your frown upside down, bluspacecow |
| 08:09.18 | bluspacecow | http://i.imgur.com/Apmkzm7.gifv |
| 08:10.20 | bluspacecow | wow you fail duck duck broke |
| 08:17.57 | nebula169 | i wish wowpedia had better seo, never get results from it |
| 08:25.26 | mckenziemc | i usually add wowpedia to my query and still don't get the right results from it... |
| 08:25.44 | mckenziemc | don't know if ddg is to blame |
| 08:25.59 | nevcairiel | nah, its just how search engines work |
| 08:26.12 | nevcairiel | if you copy an existing page and host it on a different domain, its just not ranked high at all |
| 08:26.19 | nevcairiel | which is what happened with wowwiki and wowpedia |
| 08:26.40 | mckenziemc | well, they do pull from wikia's sites for featured results (duckduckgo) |
| 08:26.44 | nevcairiel | and they dont seem to be trying to SEO to improve it, either |
| 08:32.02 | mckenziemc | what would that entail, nevcairiel? |
| 08:33.17 | nevcairiel | dont ask me, I'm no SEO expert |
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| 08:35.12 | mckenziemc | seems to me SEO is a syncophant "necessary evil" but i don't know enough to make an informed opinion |
| 08:47.53 | Mr_Rabies | argh |
| 08:48.05 | Mr_Rabies | i so wish the reset was monday morning instead of tuesday morning |
| 08:48.32 | Mr_Rabies | monday's such a wasted day unless you also raid sunday |
| 08:48.46 | Mr_Rabies | which no one really does |
| 08:48.58 | mckenziemc | resets Mr_Rabies |
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| 08:58.06 | karl_w_w | http://www.gamescom-cologne.com/gamescom/for-exhibitors/registration/gamescom-award/index.php |
| 08:58.16 | karl_w_w | apparently the best strategy game is a puzzle platformer |
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| 08:59.47 | mckenziemc | it's all part of the plan karl_w_w |
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| 10:21.10 | foxlit | mckenziemc: https:/â/âduckduckgo.com/â?âq=âpusilin+wowpedia&ât=âffab "Did you mean palin wikipedia?" |
| 10:21.25 | foxlit | you typed the relevant query term |
| 10:21.57 | foxlit | typoed; autocorrect, I thought I turned you off |
| 10:25.29 | karl_w_w | this tech support is so bad that i think it might be a bot |
| 10:27.20 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.20 | karl_w_w | Karl: firefox says unable to connect |
| 10:27.20 | karl_w_w | Karl: chrome says err_connection_refused |
| 10:27.23 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:29.19 | karl_w_w | i feel like i am guiding him through tech support |
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| 12:15.51 | nebula169 | he has a script and he's gonna follow it |
| 12:16.38 | nevcairiel | some tech support people just dont bother to act intelligent, they just click through their script |
| 12:16.40 | nevcairiel | some might be new |
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| 12:26.21 | Dagmar | ...or Indian. |
| 12:27.01 | Dagmar | If it's text window you're looking at, it's generally either someone with an accent so thick they are unintelligible, or it's "bot-assisted" chat |
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| 12:52.19 | karl_w_w | 2 hours with tech support, they can't fix it, 15 minutes on my own and I fix it |
| 12:52.23 | karl_w_w | what a world |
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| 13:06.06 | Gnarfoz | are you new to this |
| 13:07.08 | karl_w_w | probably |
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| 14:18.44 | Jamash | is it impossible to log in to wow when bnet is offline, even if the wow servers are up? |
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| 14:35.04 | Jamash | Nvm, changing my password fixed it. Odd. |
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| 14:57.00 | Jamash | dammit, my debug code caused an infinite loop when the event I was trying to track occurred :| |
| 14:57.32 | Decode_ | How can I hide the Blizzard Default ActionBar? The MainMenuBar:Hide() resets after each reload. |
| 15:01.32 | nebula169 | well everything is going to reset on reload, so you're going to need to call hide everytime |
| 15:04.45 | znf | is this website working for you? https://care.siriusxm.com/preownedvehiclestrial_view.action |
| 15:04.57 | karl_w_w | negative |
| 15:11.16 | Kalroth | znf: man, that's a kinky website |
| 15:11.24 | znf | is it? :o |
| 15:11.27 | Kalroth | oh wait, that's my own tab, it was already open |
| 15:11.28 | znf | it's only satellite radio! |
| 15:11.28 | Kalroth | nm |
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| 15:35.39 | fewyn | sigh my internet has been going in and out since 10pm last night |
| 15:35.43 | fewyn | mostly out |
| 15:36.15 | Amarande | comcast? |
| 15:36.24 | fewyn | TWC |
| 15:36.28 | Amarande | ouch. |
| 15:36.36 | fewyn | it came back up at 2am it looks like then went down about an hour later |
| 15:36.41 | fewyn | just came back up again |
| 15:36.47 | fewyn | we have a tech coming out later today |
| 15:36.47 | Amarande | yeah from what I hear about TWC I'm not sure why people were complaining about the idea of comcast buying them |
| 15:36.54 | fewyn | but i think it was a neighborhood wide outage |
| 15:36.57 | Amarande | because it sounds like comcast would actually be an upgrade over what you get with time warner :P |
| 15:37.11 | karl_w_w | have you tried swearing at it fewyn? |
| 15:37.15 | fewyn | many times |
| 15:37.24 | Amarande | although if that had gone through then there would have been the big charter/comcast customer swap and then I'd be on comcast |
| 15:37.39 | fewyn | it doesn't help i didn't sleep well last night, wasn't expecting my new tattoo to keep me awake with the paaaaain |
| 15:37.40 | Amarande | which would mean I'd be stuck having to use a crappy comcast mouter instead of my nice surfboard and d-link |
| 15:37.54 | Dagmar | Yes, because a buttfuck with a left-handed threading is always preferable to a buttfuck with a right-handed threading. |
| 15:38.06 | fewyn | eh TWC isn't too bad |
| 15:38.09 | Amarande | fewyn: with great vanity comes great suffering :) |
| 15:38.12 | fewyn | they always send a tech out next day for me |
| 15:38.16 | fewyn | i don't have data caps |
| 15:38.24 | fewyn | only downside is the max speed here is 50mbps |
| 15:38.28 | Dagmar | ...you can use Surfboard 6xxx series with Comcast as far as I know |
| 15:38.29 | fewyn | for any service |
| 15:38.51 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 15:38.54 | Amarande | Dagmar: huh. one day during the comcast/TWC buyout talks months I had a customer at work who worked for comcast |
| 15:39.00 | Amarande | he said if it'd gone through I would have had to get comcast's CPE |
| 15:39.08 | karl_w_w | I would kill for a downside like that |
| 15:39.18 | Amarande | fewyn: well, I only get 20Mbps here |
| 15:39.18 | fewyn | i had 100mbps in dallas |
| 15:39.24 | fewyn | before i had to move back to columbus |
| 15:39.27 | Dagmar | Amarande: I'm a Comcast customer. It's not required. You _can_ own your own connecting equipment. |
| 15:39.32 | karl_w_w | I'm on state of the hard 7 mbps |
| 15:39.38 | Amarande | but that's because my d-link router is weaksauce, despite having a nice featureset :( |
| 15:39.38 | fewyn | rip karl |
| 15:39.45 | Dagmar | Of course, you must frequently check your bill because they have trouble keeping track of things like that |
| 15:39.56 | Dagmar | They tried to charge me rental fees for my own modem five times last year. |
| 15:39.58 | karl_w_w | I didn't deliberately type hard, I guess that's freud for you |
| 15:40.02 | fewyn | i have an asus rt-n16 |
| 15:40.04 | fewyn | i love it |
| 15:40.20 | Dagmar | I had to remind them that I'm not to be trifled with in such a way |
| 15:40.23 | fewyn | i put tomato on it |
| 15:40.37 | Amarande | heh Dagmar you're probably on a list somewhere now :) |
| 15:40.48 | karl_w_w | my router has a carrot on it |
| 15:41.07 | Amarande | do your airport boarding passes regularly go all snake-like and hiSSSS at you nowadays? :) |
| 15:41.40 | Dagmar | Amarande: Yes, a list of people to not fuck with |
| 15:42.20 | Dagmar | Amarande: A few years back they tried to push out a firmware update to disable the admin interface on my cablemodem. |
| 15:42.42 | Dagmar | Amarande: I helpfully pointed out that this would represent a violation of USC 18 Section 1030. |
| 15:42.44 | fewyn | they tried doing that to me in florida on the modem i owned |
| 15:43.06 | fewyn | i had bought a modem because theirs kept frying or something |
| 15:43.12 | fewyn | i think they kept giving me used modems |
| 15:43.20 | fewyn | i would go through a modem like every 3 months |
| 15:43.21 | Dagmar | Amarande: In other words, they had no legal right to assume administrative control over the equipment that I control because I went to the trouble of being certain to _own it myself_ |
| 15:43.45 | fewyn | i forget what i did to make it stop but i did |
| 15:43.46 | Amarande | heh I didn't even know my cable modem ever had an administrative interface to begin with |
| 15:44.03 | fewyn | 192.168.0.100 is it on some services |
| 15:44.13 | fewyn | or like mine is 192.168.0.1 |
| 15:44.17 | Amarande | it's got a bunch of screens I can access through a web interface that tell me about status and recent events, but apart from "reboot the modem" and "factory reset" there don't seem to be any actual options to control it |
| 15:44.21 | Dagmar | Mine does. It's a really _shitty_ one that I can't poll automatically because there's a memory leak that actually locks up the cablemodem in about a day and a half but it's there |
| 15:44.37 | Amarande | did it actually used to have user-controllable features in it before I connected it to the ISP? |
| 15:44.58 | Dagmar | By design it supports SNMP |
| 15:45.16 | Dagmar | Their firmware normally turned off everything but the web interface |
| 15:45.36 | Dagmar | ...when they turned off the web interface I felt that was going a bit too far. |
| 15:46.36 | Amarande | wow, comcast doesn't even let you check the web interface? |
| 15:46.45 | Dagmar | The deal is that if they don't push me into a position where I have to do anything especially fancy, then I won't tell _everyone else in Nashville_ how to do it |
| 15:47.09 | Dagmar | Amarande: They _tried_. I pushed back. Made it clear they were violating Federal Law. They blinked first. |
| 15:47.11 | Amarande | huh. I'm pretty sure charter even actually explicitly asks you to look at the web interface to read stuff to them in some cases of particularly difficult diagnosis |
| 15:47.30 | Amarande | I'm pretty sure that's how I even knew it existed in the first place |
| 15:47.58 | Dagmar | Yeah being that their "support" involves complete fucking morons reading from cue cards and a week turnaround for a visit for some idiot to tell me my modem is broken (meanwhile, the repeatert equipment that was the actual problem has been repaired and replaced)... |
| 15:48.23 | Dagmar | If I don't have at least a simple status interface on my end of the connection, I won't be their customer |
| 15:48.24 | Amarande | heh, charter's support has its warts too |
| 15:48.45 | Dagmar | Seriously. Every damn time the tech found out I owned the modem, their story was that my modem was defective. |
| 15:48.45 | Amarande | mostly the fact of first having to go through the robot (it seems to have been somewhat hardened against "mash zero" now *sigh*) |
| 15:49.04 | Dagmar | I sent some undereducated bitches _packing_ with their tails between their legs on that |
| 15:49.05 | Amarande | then you have to be on hold for roughly the total length of the Paleozoic Era |
| 15:49.35 | Amarande | then they care more about whether you know your parents' social security numbers or the secret code on the mailed bill than about your problem |
| 15:49.53 | Amarande | (since naturally *they* own the account, but *you're* the only one tech savvy enough to actually explain what's going on in a useful manner) |
| 15:50.17 | Dagmar | One guy got the full 120dbA treatment of "GET OUT" |
| 15:50.22 | Amarande | then you have to go through a bunch of annoying steps involving basically taking apart your entire network setup as part of "problem determination" |
| 15:50.40 | Dagmar | Jesus holy christ they should warn them to not try to blind me with alphabet soup |
| 15:50.41 | Amarande | (sometimes even if you already knew, perhaps while sitting on hold for the aeon, that you're going to need to check that and did so) |
| 15:50.54 | Dagmar | Dude started talking about a virus in my firewall |
| 15:50.57 | Dagmar | LOL |
| 15:51.17 | Dagmar | He was _sure_ of it, too. |
| 15:51.38 | Amarande | I'm not even sure what they do if all your devices are wifi-only (my ethernet cables are all packed away for moving), since then you *can't* "bypass the router" as instructed |
| 15:51.53 | Dagmar | I'm sitting there thinking at the time, "I bet this motherfucker doesn't even realize that machine has a SCSI drive which has a _write-protect jumper_" |
| 15:52.37 | Dagmar | I've never lied to any of my customers for any reason, and I expect the same from companies I deal with |
| 15:52.46 | Amarande | There's a reason why if there's a total cable outage I normally ask to talk to the television support department *instead* of the internet one |
| 15:52.59 | Amarande | the TV support department is considerably less baldness-inducing to deal with |
| 15:53.02 | Dagmar | I just look at the clock |
| 15:53.17 | Dagmar | If it started within 5-6 minutes around the top of the hour, it's a planned downtime. |
| 15:53.28 | Amarande | plus, at least until about a couple months ago, I was on AT&T and *didn't have unlimited minutes* |
| 15:53.39 | Amarande | that's my cell minutes you're eating up when you're putting me on hold, bastards |
| 15:54.10 | Dagmar | Nowadays when i actually call Comcast, it's because the thing has been down for 8 hours or more |
| 15:54.17 | Dagmar | ...which doesn't happen often. |
| 15:54.39 | Dagmar | Until then, ringing them up is a complete waste of time. |
| 15:54.55 | Amarande | fewyn, wonder if that's part of why ISPs disable it on some modems? |
| 15:55.03 | Amarande | there are also some routers that use 192.168.0.1 by default, like D-Link |
| 15:55.05 | Dagmar | Now that they've gone to the trouble of talking so many people into running an AP for them as well, it's even more trivial to detect problems |
| 15:55.14 | Amarande | they probably don't want an interface IP conflict and people complaining stuff's broken, I s'pose |
| 15:55.26 | Dagmar | Many ISPs disable it because of idiot customers who look at all those numbers and think they k.now something |
| 15:55.59 | Dagmar | Most routers use 192.169.0.1 or more commonly 192.169.100.1 (because of the first group) |
| 15:56.06 | Dagmar | er 168 on both counts |
| 15:56.21 | Amarande | Mind you, ready wi-fi access is going to be a practical necessity in the future, so perhaps getting an AP network going might be important :S |
| 15:56.57 | Amarande | Especially if Microsoft doesn't fix their shit regarding "metered connections" and their forced Windows Update and insane Big Brother/telemetry crap on W10 |
| 15:57.03 | Dagmar | I have enough 802.11 saturation here |
| 15:57.21 | Amarande | it's practically going to make cellular connections for anything larger than a phone worthless due to data usage fears |
| 15:57.37 | Amarande | hell, one hopes they got it working right on phones at least, or Nadella's going to have another egg in his face |
| 15:57.48 | Amarande | "these windows phones suck, you can only ever seem to get EDGE on them" |
| 15:58.13 | Dagmar | It beats connecting to broken 4G towers |
| 15:58.13 | Amarande | (translation: win10's various bandwidth eaters gobbled up all their fast internet plan in the first day and now they only have slow internet for the rest of the month, repeat each month ..." |
| 15:58.41 | Amarande | seriously microsoft. you're supposed to make this shit opt-in |
| 15:58.58 | Amarande | this is going to make every one of the inevitable refresh/reset cycles in windows be even more beer-necessitating |
| 15:59.12 | Dagmar | You opted in when you scrolled through all that legalese and clicked the "YES, DO ME HARD BABY" button |
| 15:59.39 | Amarande | in addition to lovely sub-events such as "wait for every single update since windows came out to download and install, at Windows Update's inexplicably slow pace" |
| 15:59.49 | Amarande | and "reconfiggle all your stuff to taste" and "reinstall all your desktop apps" |
| 16:00.02 | Dagmar | The only thing I like about the Win10 thing is that it might put some heat on cable operators to back off with their demented quota |
| 16:00.07 | Amarande | now there will be "go back through forty pages of control panels and set all the data mining features back to 'off'" |
| 16:00.42 | Dagmar | ...or at least increase it to a more reasonable figure. They need to get over their fascination with trying to stop "cord-cutting" |
| 16:01.44 | Amarande | heh, probably also their fear that the whole shared bandwidth model will fall through as applications get more bw hungry |
| 16:01.49 | Amarande | trouble with that is that fear might be legitimate |
| 16:01.57 | Amarande | after all, shared bandwidth is sold at a tiny fraction of dedicated |
| 16:02.01 | Dagmar | Maybe they should upgrade some shit then |
| 16:02.09 | Amarande | they want to what, sell gigabit connections for something like a few hundred bucks a month? |
| 16:02.22 | Dagmar | All I care about right now is that THERE'S GOOGLE FIBER GOING INTO THE GROUND HERE |
| 16:02.26 | Amarande | but if people are actually USING gigabit transfers addictively, then they get less and less able to make it shared |
| 16:02.44 | Amarande | and dedicated gigabit is ... well ... let's just say I looked at verizon's pricing once for dedicated links and a 622Mbps was something like $100k a month |
| 16:02.50 | Amarande | (maybe I'll get one if I hit the powerball? heh) |
| 16:03.58 | Amarande | I wonder how scared they're getting of the current game consoles and AAA games of the generation in general |
| 16:04.16 | Amarande | like, next gen at this rate it'll be 100GB+ for a game |
| 16:04.26 | Dagmar | THey're not scared. They're perfectly willing to charge those people $10 per Gb over quota |
| 16:04.41 | Amarande | unless this is the saving clause, in a way |
| 16:05.02 | Amarande | eventually, digital distribution will stop being viable for AAA titles, which will result in a resurgence of physical stores and the jobs that come therefrom |
| 16:05.14 | Dagmar | lol |
| 16:05.19 | Dagmar | ...provided you pre-order. |
| 16:05.38 | Amarande | oh yes, and don't forget to get the latest Madden 4K Edition with that :) |
| 16:06.03 | Amarande | I have no idea why they try so specifically to promote Madden |
| 16:06.10 | Dagmar | EA. |
| 16:06.11 | Amarande | I suck at console football |
| 16:06.23 | Amarande | promote the latest Dragon Age or something like that to me instead, GameStop :p |
| 16:06.32 | Dagmar | They manage to sell people the same game, marginally improved, year after year. |
| 16:06.37 | Amarande | or maybe you can try to sell me the big Old Republic points card |
| 16:06.40 | Amarande | but forget about Madden heh |
| 16:06.42 | Dagmar | So naturally they want more people who will blindly do that. |
| 16:07.08 | Amarande | hah "manage to" |
| 16:07.16 | Amarande | it's more like "prod addicted people kicking and screaming" |
| 16:07.31 | Amarande | given that they make sure to regularly shut down the old year's servers not too long after the new one is out |
| 16:07.42 | Dagmar | If EA were smart, they'd take a whack at buying Nintendo |
| 16:07.56 | Amarande | as opposed to some other properties of theirs like ... heck, they still keep Ultima Online going |
| 16:08.13 | Amarande | soon enough UO will be old enough to buy an ale at the Blue Boar |
| 16:08.35 | Dagmar | I hear they're planning on selling that off to NCSoft. |
| 16:08.47 | Amarande | ouch, poor Ultima fans |
| 16:08.54 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 16:08.57 | Amarande | NCSoft, kings of "let's shut down the servers" even more than EA :P |
| 16:09.05 | Amarande | although they do keep GW1 going |
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| 16:09.49 | Dagmar | I have a couple of friends who still exhibit Tourettes-like symptoms at the mention of NCSoft because of City of Heroes |
| 16:10.05 | Amarande | I occasionally considered trying City of Heroes but never got into it |
| 16:10.12 | Jamash | EA can't afford Nintendo |
| 16:10.27 | Amarande | of MMO shutdowns I know of, Aeria/Atlus are probably the ones that make me saddest |
| 16:10.34 | Jamash | Dagmar: Same. I have some friends who were hardcore CoH fans. |
| 16:10.37 | Neffi | is City of Heroes still live? |
| 16:10.44 | Amarande | they ended the English-language edition of Shin Megami Tensei: IMAGINE, which I would have liked to get back into at some point |
| 16:10.51 | Neffi | Man I played that before I started playing WoW way back when |
| 16:10.54 | Jamash | Neffi: NCSoft put a stake through its heart and buried under a crossroads at midnight. |
| 16:11.05 | Neffi | Jamash: probably for the best. It was kinda bad. |
| 16:11.18 | Neffi | but I was like 13 or 14 |
| 16:11.19 | Amarande | now it's only available in Japanese, and while I'm willing enough to try to work my way through Japanese for, say, Shin Megami Tensei I and II on famicom |
| 16:11.28 | Dagmar | Neffi: They shut down CoH while it was _still making money_ |
| 16:11.31 | Amarande | I'm not sure trying to play a real-time MMO in a foreign language is really that good of an idea |
| 16:11.31 | Dagmar | Go figure. |
| 16:11.52 | Jamash | Neffi: Not to hear my friends talk about it. I thought it was "meh" but I wasn't anywhere nearly as much into the character creator as they were |
| 16:11.55 | Neffi | Dagmar: Maybe they felt the game had gone sour and decided they wanted to see it die with some dignity or something? |
| 16:12.01 | Amarande | TBH, I suspect 64-bit Windows was the main killing factor for IMAGINE :( |
| 16:12.13 | Jamash | Neffi: They wanted to shut down the infrastructure to focus on other, worse games. |
| 16:12.30 | Dagmar | Neffi: It was more a matter of they felt it was not enough money, so they could piss people off with bigger, more poorly made titles. |
| 16:12.33 | Neffi | NCsoft.. I know that name. Dont they do Guild Wars? |
| 16:12.36 | Amarande | And Western computers I'm pretty sure went to 64-bit a lot more often than Asian computers (probably because Asia stuck with XP for so long) |
| 16:13.09 | Amarande | Jamash: plus the gaming environment couldn't afford to see Nintendo mangled that way |
| 16:13.13 | Amarande | Nintendo is kind of important |
| 16:13.31 | Amarande | since, well, I'm not even 100% sure Sony wants to stay in the traditional console market at all |
| 16:13.53 | Neffi | ...Sony, the maker of the biggest console? |
| 16:13.58 | Amarande | Neffi: sometimes it looks more like they want to focus on that streaming video service so you just buy a controller and a sony blu-ray player or smart tv and play the games online through playstation now |
| 16:14.35 | Jamash | Amarande: Probably, but nobody cares so it's not going to happen. |
| 16:14.36 | Dagmar | Amarande: That keeps them from having to actually sell you a console to play the games they don't actually sell you |
| 16:14.37 | Amarande | if they do that and Nintendo flops like a neglected Magikarp, that leaves Microsoft in total control of BOTH PC *AND* consoles in the home |
| 16:15.07 | Jamash | Amarande: Steam Machines, iOS/Android and Nintendo handhelds. |
| 16:15.08 | Amarande | and who knows if they'd ever be able to be pried *out* of that control, given that then they just have to conveniently patent various essential modern game elements (probably as "enhanced DirectX experiences") |
| 16:15.25 | Neffi | Dagmar: They probably make money facilitating the online service even if their profit margins on the consoles are not that high, which is why I'm not really buying all this ludicrous speculation that they want out |
| 16:15.31 | Neffi | They're insanely popular |
| 16:15.46 | Jamash | Amarande: The Supreme Court has been knocking down overbroad and illegitimate patents of late, I think the current "let's patent ideas" phase is winding down |
| 16:15.49 | Amarande | since after all, "experience" in Microsoft's case seems to almost always be intended to be seen as OMG AWESOME |
| 16:16.05 | Amarande | even if it's quite an experience in the sense that, say, falling downstairs with twenty-four cans of root beer is quite an experience |
| 16:16.46 | Jamash | The current thinking about Nintendo's next platform is that it will unify handheld and TV gaming, possibly with a docking station or HDMI dongle of some sort |
| 16:17.13 | Amarande | me, I'll be turning pretty much all of those data mining features in 10 off right off the bat, except *maybe* for cortana depending on whether I think it's actually useful |
| 16:17.32 | Amarande | that's assuming that more skulduggery doesn't come out, in which case I may very well just want to wait for Windows Server 2016 Essentials so I have that much control over my PC |
| 16:17.46 | Jamash | Thus increasing the size of the potential customer base for any given game and decreasing development costs |
| 16:17.55 | Amarande | Jamash, didn't they already try to do that kind of thing with the screens on the Wii U controllers? |
| 16:17.59 | Amarande | from what I hear Wii U didn't do so good |
| 16:18.18 | Jamash | Amarande: OK, but imagine if you could play the *exact same games* on WiiU and 3DS |
| 16:18.36 | Amarande | about the only reason to buy it was that due to Gamespy related shutdown crap, only the 3DS and WiiU have internet capability anymore |
| 16:18.46 | Jamash | That would have (and should have) been wildly successful |
| 16:18.56 | Jamash | if Nintendo had been smart enough to make it happen |
| 16:19.06 | Amarande | Jamash: this is giving me the sads, mostly because Sony didn't really do it well either |
| 16:19.26 | Amarande | and I fairly often wish that the PS3 would be able to play *all* the digital games on the PSN Store instead of needing to get a PSP or Vita to play some of them |
| 16:19.44 | Amarande | I traded in my PSP a while ago, although that had mainly to do with the lousy battery life and the fact that it didn't support WPA2 AES |
| 16:20.03 | Amarande | so yay, console that was becoming almost entirely online based + inability to go online with it ftl |
| 16:20.53 | Amarande | but even without that, you kinda get the worst of both worlds with the psp |
| 16:21.11 | Amarande | because of the short battery life, if you're playing anything lengthy, like RPGs |
| 16:21.42 | Amarande | it means you get stuck with the tiny portable screen, but you also get stuck with being tethered to a power outlet so you don't even really get much of the benefit of portable either |
| 16:22.06 | Amarande | compare on the other hand the DS Lite (which I did keep), where online isn't all that important and you get 15-20 hours play time on one charge |
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| 16:25.47 | Jamash | Amarande: So imagine a device the form factor of the 3DS that you can wirelessly pair with a Chromecast-style HDMI dongle to play on your TV. Or instead of just a streaming dongle, a docking cradle with a more powerful GPU. |
| 16:27.01 | Jamash | Basically the Nvidia Shield but with Mario |
| 16:27.46 | Amarande | Yeah, that would be nifty. As would a Sony version, so I can at least play Persona 2 Innocent Sin on a full size screen, if I'm going to be forced to stay near my power outlet and such the whole time anyway because battery life :P |
| 16:27.56 | Amarande | and yeah, the battery life was the last straw |
| 16:28.19 | Amarande | one year when I went to DragonCon I took my PSP and Final Fantasy II with me onto the bus to the airport |
| 16:28.39 | Amarande | I figured they'd be enough entertainment to last me till I got to the hotel |
| 16:28.55 | Amarande | ... there I was with an hour to go before boarding still and the PSP blinked out its last with "battery low!" |
| 16:29.00 | Jamash | another way to think about it is, what if instead of the wacky tablet controller, the 3DS *was* the WiiU controller |
| 16:29.16 | Amarande | that would be neat. didn't they do that once with the GBA and the GameCube? |
| 16:29.26 | Jamash | We don't talk about Crystal Chronicles |
| 16:29.29 | Jamash | but yes |
| 16:29.29 | Amarande | ... then again, the trouble is they did that once with the GBA and the GameCube ... |
| 16:29.35 | Jamash | that was wired though |
| 16:29.40 | Jamash | not exactly convenient |
| 16:29.58 | Jamash | wireless makes everything better |
| 16:30.09 | Jamash | ...except E3 stage demos, heyooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 17:05.40 | fewyn | i really like Edge i just wish it had extensions already |
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| 17:07.20 | Semlar | foxlit: you should replace blizzard's ship death message with one that actually has the ship's link in it |
| 17:08.25 | mckenziemc | kills Semlar, then links his loot. |
| 17:10.06 | Semlar | i tried to hook GarrisonShipyardMissionComplete.AnimBoatDeath but evidently there's some convoluted local reference to it and i don't want to trace that to whatever file it leads to |
| 17:12.15 | Neffi | Semlar! |
| 17:12.21 | Semlar | neffi |
| 17:12.29 | Neffi | Semlar, name my external hard drive |
| 17:12.33 | Semlar | bender |
| 17:12.56 | Neffi | that doesn't work because I use character names for hostnames |
| 17:13.11 | Semlar | jupiter |
| 17:13.19 | Neffi | that works. thx |
| 17:13.39 | nevcairiel | because jupiter is no character name |
| 17:14.08 | Neffi | why do you have to ruin the fun nevcairiel |
| 17:15.02 | Jamash | nevcairiel: bad movie is bad |
| 17:16.11 | nevcairiel | it wasnt that terrible |
| 17:25.11 | Jamash | it was atrocious |
| 17:31.23 | zenzelezz | so I get home, turn on my monitors, and I have task manager open on the main monitor |
| 17:31.33 | zenzelezz | I'm sure I did it before going to bed to remind myself of something |
| 17:31.37 | zenzelezz | but god only knows what |
| 17:31.47 | Semlar | kill dash nine |
| 17:31.54 | Semlar | self.currentMission.failedEncounter = random(1, #self.animInfo) :| |
| 17:32.04 | zenzelezz | "kill dash nine" sounds like a boy band |
| 17:35.40 | foxlit | I'm enjoying the hots matchmaker |
| 17:35.50 | Jamash | nevcairiel: in the words of Beefy, "It was a preposterous film. It was asinine. It was...other big words for bad." |
| 17:35.57 | foxlit | nova-zeratul-abathur vs abathur-zeratul |
| 17:36.14 | Jamash | foxlit: heroes of the heart of the stworm |
| 17:36.35 | zenzelezz | of swords |
| 17:37.53 | fewyn | i know not a lot of you are sports fans but this is fucking hillarious |
| 17:37.54 | fewyn | https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/3gm6dh/geno_smith_got_sucker_punched_in_locker_room_this/ |
| 17:37.56 | Jamash | Semlar: GarrisonShipyardMissionComplete.animationControl[10] is boat death |
| 17:38.24 | Semlar | yeah, i just figured out i can get a list of who died from the GARRISON_MISSION_COMPLETE_RESPONSE event |
| 17:38.42 | Semlar | what i don't know is whether i can get a link to the followerID after it's dead |
| 17:38.52 | Semlar | so i may just need to keep a list of what ships you have |
| 17:39.06 | Jamash | Semlar: are the links valid after they die? |
| 17:39.18 | Semlar | links contain all of the data regardless of whether you even have the ship |
| 17:39.31 | Semlar | you can send your links to other players |
| 17:39.32 | Jamash | I am thiiiiiiiiiis close to having a working solution to unplacing blizzard's autoplaced abilities on levelup |
| 17:39.45 | Jamash | a frequent request for Learning Aid |
| 17:40.42 | Semlar | couldn't you just unregister SPELL_PUSHED_TO_ACTIONBAR from something |
| 17:41.06 | Jamash | No. SPELL_PUSHED_TO_ACTIONBAR fires before the spell actually hits the actionbar. |
| 17:41.36 | Jamash | I'm working on figuring out what actually puts it there |
| 17:42.04 | Semlar | IconIntroTracker:UnregisterEvent('SPELL_PUSHED_TO_ACTIONBAR') |
| 17:42.27 | Jamash | that's just the animation bro |
| 17:42.54 | Semlar | really? |
| 17:43.49 | mckenziemc | PickupSemlar(); ClearCursor() |
| 17:44.17 | Jamash | I'm using AdvancedEventTrace (great addon btw, was thinking of writing it then I found someone already had) to figure out the call sequence |
| 17:44.40 | Semlar | i'm gonna go figure out a sandwich |
| 17:45.27 | mckenziemc | you might also want to figure out how to avoid garbage collection |
| 17:46.02 | Torhal | _G["Neffi"] = Semlar |
| 17:46.04 | Torhal | mckenziemc: ^ |
| 17:46.17 | mckenziemc | now both are nil Torhal |
| 17:46.20 | mckenziemc | good job |
| 17:46.24 | Torhal | Oh, snap! |
| 17:46.42 | Kalroth | ./mourn Semlar |
| 17:46.56 | Kalroth | alas, we hardly knew he |
| 17:48.05 | Jamash | ACTIONBAR_SHOWGRID and ACTIONBAR_HIDEGRID fire so it seems something is picking up the spell and dropping it, but I hooked PickupSpell and PickupSpellBookItem and got nothing |
| 17:49.13 | mckenziemc | i've noticed the ability sometimes briefly shows on the actionbar *before* the animation |
| 17:50.05 | mckenziemc | could you hook whatever method is used to set the button ability and check the stack with debugstack ? |
| 17:50.24 | foxlit | C does it. |
| 17:50.29 | foxlit | mystery solved |
| 17:50.31 | foxlit | ? |
| 17:53.26 | mckenziemc | traces foxlit's daily existence back to an instance of Bed, and deletes it. |
| 17:56.34 | Semlar | i was using that |
| 17:56.48 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 18:01.38 | Jamash | mckenziemc: trying |
| 18:07.22 | Jamash | dammit I keep not getting the event notification code right and wasting levelups |
| 18:07.47 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 18:08.07 | mckenziemc | you using normal alts or temporary new characters? |
| 18:09.04 | Jamash | ...this would be going faster if I was wearing my heirlooms |
| 18:09.20 | Jamash | mckenziemc: alts < level 10 |
| 18:09.40 | mckenziemc | i ran out of those :D |
| 18:12.24 | Jamash | pfft |
| 18:12.36 | foxlit | Jamash runs a slaughter-mill. |
| 18:12.44 | foxlit | upon reaching level 10, alts are... disposed of. |
| 18:12.48 | mckenziemc | o.O |
| 18:14.55 | Jamash | I still have plenty of low level alts |
| 18:15.30 | Jamash | I only play four or five characters with any regularity |
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| 18:16.27 | Jamash | my 100s are warlock, priest, death knight and monk; my former main (hunter) lagging behind at 87 |
| 18:17.25 | Jamash | Will WoW kick trial accounts if the realm is full? |
| 18:17.53 | nevcairiel | no |
| 18:19.09 | Jamash | just a glitch then |
| 18:19.25 | nevcairiel | unless its a new thing they do |
| 18:19.39 | nevcairiel | but it would seem like a bad way to get trials to buy the game |
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| 18:21.49 | fewyn | when did they change [Marked Flawless Battle-Stone] to not to delevel pets? |
| 18:22.25 | nevcairiel | 6.1 |
| 18:22.38 | fewyn | that's a nice change |
| 18:22.57 | fewyn | i never saw the reason to delevel pets for it |
| 18:23.31 | mckenziemc | levels fewyn's home |
| 18:24.40 | fewyn | http://www.warcraftpets.com/collection/Fewyn/ |
| 18:25.11 | nevcairiel | the de-level was kinda annoying if you converted a 25 pet, as those 2 levels are kinda annoying to get back |
| 18:25.23 | nevcairiel | but i have so many of the other leveling stones that I would just use them to grant them agian |
| 18:26.15 | fewyn | yeah |
| 18:26.29 | fewyn | i just was finishing up putting together my celestial tournament teams |
| 18:26.37 | nevcairiel | i cba to do any pet stuff in WoD without flying though |
| 18:27.58 | Jamash | chauffer mount + sea turtle makes doing sen'jin isles a lot less painful |
| 18:28.11 | Jamash | er, echo isles, w/e |
| 18:28.12 | Stanzilla | I have 710 unique pets, fewyn |
| 18:28.16 | Stanzilla | \o/ |
| 18:28.36 | nevcairiel | did you venture through the world and caught every single wild pet that exists? |
| 18:28.53 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 18:28.54 | nevcairiel | its something i always wanted to do, but i was too lazy |
| 18:29.06 | nevcairiel | ... and i would be so OCD to want to catch them in rare, so it would take ages |
| 18:29.10 | Stanzilla | missing 3 news ones from 6.2 though |
| 18:29.25 | Jamash | Stanzilla: are you the very best? |
| 18:29.30 | Stanzilla | Jamash: probably not |
| 18:29.41 | Stanzilla | they added pets that only spawn once per zone |
| 18:29.49 | Stanzilla | so annoying to hunt those down |
| 18:29.51 | Jamash | Stanzilla: like no one ever was? |
| 18:29.59 | nevcairiel | I would only do it for the collecting, I'm not actually into the battling that much |
| 18:30.08 | Stanzilla | same |
| 18:30.15 | Stanzilla | I just do some of the achievements |
| 18:30.19 | Stanzilla | but that's it |
| 18:30.36 | fewyn | i'm missing some newer pets |
| 18:30.42 | fewyn | but at one point i went and caught like everything |
| 18:30.53 | fewyn | missing some from the new raiding with leashes too |
| 18:30.54 | Stanzilla | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/zirkel-des-cenarius/Arc%C3%A1dia/pet#status=not-collected |
| 18:30.56 | nevcairiel | i do the daily occasionally, and usually just with my default pet team, if my team cant be the daily guy, i just give up because i cba |
| 18:30.56 | Stanzilla | missing 22 |
| 18:31.07 | nevcairiel | cant beat* |
| 18:31.36 | nevcairiel | i think the only one i cant really beat is the mini patchwork though, i dont have a hard-hitter in my team |
| 18:31.49 | Jamash | Stanzilla: Once per zone meaning only one up at a time? |
| 18:31.58 | Stanzilla | Jamash: ye |
| 18:32.07 | nevcairiel | yea some pets are intentionally very rare |
| 18:32.11 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: no howl bomb? |
| 18:32.25 | Amarande | Yeah, even leveling in Pokemon seems to be less tedious than leveling WoW battle pets :( |
| 18:32.27 | Stanzilla | that is super easy to get, both are on the AH |
| 18:32.35 | Stanzilla | pandaren water spirit and chrominus |
| 18:32.42 | nevcairiel | i thought valkyr |
| 18:32.48 | Stanzilla | that is mega howl bomb |
| 18:32.54 | nevcairiel | i have valkyr though |
| 18:32.58 | Stanzilla | well then |
| 18:33.02 | Stanzilla | other two are easy |
| 18:33.13 | Stanzilla | and you can really beat most of the dudes with howl bomb |
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| 18:33.25 | nevcairiel | i can just wear the others down without much trouble |
| 18:33.39 | nevcairiel | just stitches with his "need hit over 500" doesnt work with my wearing-down team =p |
| 18:34.33 | nevcairiel | the pet thing should allow you to save several teams |
| 18:34.38 | nevcairiel | i'm sure there is an addon for that.. |
| 18:34.40 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 18:34.43 | Stanzilla | petbattleteams |
| 18:34.50 | Stanzilla | that is so mandatory for me :D |
| 18:34.59 | nevcairiel | well i just use the same team all the time! |
| 18:35.04 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 18:35.08 | nevcairiel | what do i have .. a rabbit, a frog and a moth |
| 18:35.09 | Stanzilla | I have a team for every trainer |
| 18:35.27 | nevcairiel | they work on most things |
| 18:35.36 | Stanzilla | my howl bomb team is called FuckShitUp |
| 18:35.51 | nevcairiel | i should level a bunch more pets |
| 18:35.55 | nevcairiel | and resume doing the trainers |
| 18:36.05 | Stanzilla | and there is one team where Ican do every single legendary tanaan pet |
| 18:36.12 | Stanzilla | *with |
| 18:36.23 | Stanzilla | http://vgy.me/zldzig.png |
| 18:36.35 | Stanzilla | how bomb the first one, then survive till the buff wears off |
| 18:37.15 | nevcairiel | lets see what level my valkyr actually is |
| 18:37.19 | nevcairiel | my chrominus is still 1 i think |
| 18:37.32 | mckenziemc | is there a recommended way to level battle pets, both before and after having one at 25 |
| 18:37.49 | mckenziemc | my highest is 10 or so :) |
| 18:37.52 | Stanzilla | well you can do every trainer with only 2 pets in the team |
| 18:37.57 | Stanzilla | so you can have one carried all the time |
| 18:38.06 | Stanzilla | and that's how you do it after you have a few 25s |
| 18:38.10 | Stanzilla | before that it's just grind I guess |
| 18:38.18 | nevcairiel | oh chrominius is actually 25 |
| 18:38.20 | nevcairiel | i think i boosted him |
| 18:38.30 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I think my (ex- :() guildmate has you beat: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackmoore/Nyari/pet#status=not-collected she's wowkemon nerd extraordinaire :| |
| 18:38.52 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yeah having every collectors edition helps |
| 18:38.58 | Stanzilla | those are the most I am missing |
| 18:39.16 | nevcairiel | pandaran water spirit be expensive on ah :( |
| 18:39.17 | Gnarfoz | her sister was (is? I dunno) a GM, so she had upgrade codes for those |
| 18:39.24 | Stanzilla | hax |
| 18:40.02 | Stanzilla | I'd pay good gold for some collections editions :( |
| 18:40.07 | nevcairiel | does it matter which trainer i level on, higher ones be better etc? |
| 18:40.30 | Gnarfoz | neat, she made it back into the top 20 |
| 18:41.05 | Stanzilla | I think the xp varies dunno though |
| 18:41.10 | Stanzilla | I always use only two in wod |
| 18:41.17 | Stanzilla | shadowmoon ashle or so |
| 18:41.28 | Stanzilla | and the one below auchindoun |
| 18:44.14 | Jamash | nevcairiel: If you're not using PetBattleTeams, you're missing out |
| 18:45.25 | Jamash | I'm so goddamn smart. I couldn't figure out why PickupAction was getting called, but not PlaceAction. It's because I'm using Bartender4 and it has its own function for that. |
| 18:46.55 | nevcairiel | yay, I beat Jamash |
| 18:47.10 | Jamash | :F |
| 18:48.13 | nevcairiel | but yeah thats all handled through secure magic in bartender |
| 18:49.34 | Jamash | nevcairiel: you would be the perfect person to ask, then: what function or method should I hook to figure out the exact moment an action is assigned to an action slot? |
| 18:50.52 | nevcairiel | dont think you can do that |
| 18:52.24 | Jamash | :| |
| 18:53.07 | Simca | <nevcairiel> i think the only one i cant really beat is the mini patchwork though, i dont have a hard-hitter in my team |
| 18:53.11 | nevcairiel | PickupAction might work, i think it uses that to "pickup" an empty action button and place the cursor content in its place |
| 18:53.14 | Simca | Red Cricket obliterates it btw |
| 18:53.37 | Simca | power stat is so high it does over 500 damage with its basic attack |
| 18:53.46 | Simca | so everything hits |
| 18:53.47 | nevcairiel | like i said, i'm just too lazy to figure out multiple teams =P |
| 18:54.45 | Jamash | PickupAction happens when I pick up an action from a bar, and PlaceAction when I drop it, but I think the adding of spells to bars on levelup is being done from mysterious C code |
| 18:55.43 | nevcairiel | oh yeah, thats not something an addon does |
| 18:55.54 | nevcairiel | there is an animation though |
| 18:55.59 | nevcairiel | could see what it fires on |
| 18:57.14 | Jamash | already did |
| 18:57.21 | Jamash | the spell isn't on the bar yet when the animation starts |
| 18:57.41 | nevcairiel | the end of animation event might trigger the placement though |
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| 19:01.18 | Jamash | wtf is SetBarSlotFromIntro |
| 19:02.31 | Jamash | Usage: SetBarSlotFromIntro(slot) |
| 19:02.33 | Jamash | THANKS BLIZZARD |
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| 19:02.53 | Jamash | well, that's a likely culprit |
| 19:03.03 | Jamash | I'll hook it |
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| 19:39.42 | Simca | lol, great outfitter bug |
| 19:39.45 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/V7HPN0y.jpg |
| 19:40.11 | Simca | guess they didn't expect the tooltip for an item's use effect to be miles long |
| 19:40.25 | Simca | the text* |
| 19:41.03 | Semlar | there's a word wrap option when setting the tooltip |
| 19:55.57 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/chLcwFc.png |
| 19:55.59 | karl_w_w | yeesh |
| 19:56.33 | g0urra | damn chinese trying to take my hotmail account |
| 20:12.32 | nevcairiel | just let em |
| 20:12.36 | nevcairiel | its hotmail, not a big loss |
| 20:19.59 | Ressy | oh wow.. |
| 20:20.17 | Ressy | Just noticed lots of attempts to log into my hotmail. |
| 20:20.56 | Ressy | Someone's been using AWS to try logging into my account. o.O |
| 20:25.06 | foxlit | teehee, /cast [+moving][indoors] Roll; [flyable] {{mount:air}}; {{mount:ground}} |
| 20:31.29 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/ti7uRHK1 |
| 20:32.04 | nevcairiel | how can you hijack cast without breaking it forever |
| 20:33.24 | foxlit | hijack things before they get that far. |
| 20:34.32 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.09 | nevcairiel | whereever you enter the execution path, wouldnt you taint the chat or macro handler, or wherever it is you go in? |
| 20:38.07 | foxlit | right. The non-evil version of this doesn't run in combat. |
| 20:40.03 | foxlit | (most of the logic is in the RE, so everything but the external functions runs securely; outside of lockdown, the tainted evaluation result for those conditionals can be passed back without causing an issue) |
| 20:43.14 | foxlit | the non-evil use cases are things like merging buttons with similar effects out of combat: cast-time mounts and instant mobility abilities, hearthstone fallbacks on different cooldowns, mage food summoning/consumption, etc. |
| 20:43.53 | foxlit | not sure if I'm missing anything obviously useful beyond [moving] [have:item] and [ready:spell/item]. |
| 20:55.51 | mckenziemc | [Torhal:dead] ? |
| 21:04.02 | Torhal | bans mckenziemc's account. |
| 21:05.02 | mckenziemc | Can't do that while dead. |
| 21:05.30 | foxlit | [range:], probably |
| 21:09.28 | Kraps | in d3, if i choose to upgrade gem, will i lose the keystone? |
| 21:11.18 | nevcairiel | yes |
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| 21:11.32 | mckenziemc | you will lose the game too |
| 21:12.09 | Kraps | rip |
| 21:13.17 | nevcairiel | in patch 2.3 all this changes though |
| 21:13.48 | Kraps | how |
| 21:14.04 | nevcairiel | you always get to upgrade the gem when you finish a grift |
| 21:14.09 | nevcairiel | no stone upgrades |
| 21:14.29 | nevcairiel | instead you can open any abitrary grift level with the stone that you completed before (+1) |
| 21:15.11 | Kraps | wow |
| 21:15.15 | nevcairiel | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/19842936/patch-230-preview-adventure-mode-8-4-2015 (scroll to "Rifting it Forward") |
| 21:15.50 | Kraps | well i just reached 70 2 days ago so this is new to me |
| 21:16.22 | Kraps | in hardcore |
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| 21:44.07 | fewyn | http://store.steampowered.com/app/380600/ |
| 21:49.27 | kullervo | if I can solo random dungeons as dps, why are the other 4 players there if not to make it faster by allowing bigger pulls? |
| 21:51.44 | mckenziemc | automates the death of kullervo. |
| 21:51.59 | mckenziemc | better than soloing! |
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| 21:53.51 | kullervo | yes that's exactly what happens |
| 21:54.00 | kullervo | I place some trust in the group to deal damage or at least tank one of the mobs |
| 21:54.03 | kullervo | no |
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| 22:15.07 | Ressy | Hey foxlit, did you add "The Awakener" to the ships for Masterplan? |
| 22:16.38 | foxlit | there's nothing to add, really. |
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