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| 00:19.13 | Amarande | *boo-boo-BEEP!* The number you have dialed, w-o-w-u-i-d-e-v, is unavailable. Please leave your message after the tone ... |
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| 01:13.53 | phelps | Amarande, |
| 01:14.02 | phelps | your message was really well timed to my DC |
| 01:14.15 | phelps | http://i.imgur.com/6enRLJf.png |
| 01:14.27 | Amarande | :D |
| 01:37.06 | Primer | phelps: I recovered my raid, btw |
| 01:37.21 | phelps | oh nice |
| 01:38.35 | Primer | I setup a new site on my new AWS instance: stream.ceregatti.org but there's nothing running there right now |
| 01:39.04 | Primer | My home cameras are all fucked. Found 3 cut wires so 2 cameras and the mic aren't working |
| 01:39.13 | Primer | plus I canceled my wow account so I'm not streaming that any more |
| 01:42.30 | Amarande | cut wires? the heck did you do with them? :S |
| 01:48.27 | Primer | I suspect it was when I was moving stuff in the garage for 2 of the wires, and I suspect my dog of the third |
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| 02:32.42 | Shirik | I like my rental insurance policy |
| 02:32.46 | Shirik | "Coverage is worldwide, except for vehicles rented in Australia, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, and New Zealand.**" |
| 02:32.53 | Shirik | Apparently those countries are not part of the world |
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| 02:36.52 | Arrowmaster | i posted a funny to FB, i got somebody to resign HS after i was at 1 hp |
| 02:37.24 | Arrowmaster | and it was a mage |
| 02:38.19 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:38.23 | Shirik | how |
| 02:39.16 | Arrowmaster | https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153331158591445&set=a.10151977488856445.1073741825.573016444&type=1 |
| 02:41.25 | Arrowmaster | uploading to imgur too |
| 02:43.05 | Arrowmaster | http://imgur.com/aXDZKVw |
| 02:43.45 | Arrowmaster | i drew my only guardian of kings in the deck and played it next turn, the only heal i had |
| 02:43.51 | Arrowmaster | talk about rage quit |
| 02:45.08 | pompy | Ackis: "Regaliceratops: New Dinosaur Species Discovered in Alberta, Canada" |
| 03:04.37 | znf | Anyone happens to know an open-source/free solution to monitor websites that your network users are spending time/traffic on? |
| 03:06.30 | Dagmar | None off the top of my head |
| 03:06.48 | Dagmar | I've just always rigged something up with tcpdump on a tergeted basis when the need arose |
| 03:07.06 | Dagmar | Network-wide monitoring is a _very_ touch-and-go proposition from an HR standpoint |
| 03:07.35 | znf | which can be done only with expensive solutions... |
| 03:07.54 | znf | I like how Meraki does it :-/ |
| 03:09.09 | Dagmar | It's not touch-and-go because of the costs. it's touch-and-go because of hte legal issues |
| 03:09.25 | Dagmar | Grabbing HTTP URLs from a network flow is not very hard, when it comes down to it |
| 03:10.02 | Dagmar | Keeping managers from getting stupid and engaging in targeted monitoring or (even accidental) invasion of privacy is nasty |
| 03:10.09 | Arrowmaster | its going to depend on what hardware you have |
| 03:10.31 | Dagmar | It's considerably easier if you just build a proxy server and require all HTTP to go through it |
| 03:10.40 | znf | Sure, but what do you do with https? |
| 03:10.40 | Dagmar | *That* you can sell as a value-add to the network |
| 03:10.47 | Dagmar | Not a fuckin' thing, basically. |
| 03:11.13 | znf | other than to force client computers to go trough the proxy |
| 03:11.25 | Arrowmaster | you either do nothing with https or you force every client on your network to install your root cert and your proxy creates new certs for every domain the users goto signed with your cert |
| 03:11.33 | Dagmar | That's where it can get not only moderately expensive, but _extremely_ problematic in that you may wind up capturing data which would be of interest to evildoers who might compromise your monitoring system |
| 03:11.44 | znf | ie: limiting their web access by requiring their browser to have a proxy set |
| 03:11.51 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: also MITM'ing HTTPS is generally considered a bastard act |
| 03:12.01 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: Lenovo got lambasted pretty badly for that recently |
| 03:12.02 | Dagmar | ...and dangerous. |
| 03:12.13 | Arrowmaster | if its a company on company hardware its allowed |
| 03:12.28 | Dagmar | You'll be very, very screwed if you use a solution that involves an overriding cert |
| 03:12.36 | znf | I really like this: http://i.imgur.com/6eaWFRf.png |
| 03:12.41 | Iriel | You can still run into big trouble |
| 03:12.49 | Dagmar | Iriel++ |
| 03:12.53 | Iriel | for example, if your company has HTTPS sites for things like HR and healthcare |
| 03:12.57 | Iriel | Or for reporting compliance issues |
| 03:12.58 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 03:13.03 | Amarande | one of the bloatware apps that they were distributing with their laptops had a vulnerability allowing that |
| 03:13.06 | Iriel | You /REALLY/ dont want to be piercing security on thoe |
| 03:13.10 | znf | Small company. No HR. Heck, I bet there aren't even laws against it in our country. |
| 03:13.12 | Dagmar | This is still _not_ solid legal ground that would make it as simple as saying "but company resources!" |
| 03:13.24 | znf | But I don't want to MITM |
| 03:13.40 | Dagmar | Ther'es next to _nowhere_ that will be happy with you for compromising the privacy of medical info |
| 03:13.42 | Iriel | Is just tracking the IPâs sufficient? |
| 03:13.58 | znf | Iriel, ideally would be nice to tie it to a service |
| 03:14.01 | Dagmar | Okay, _that_ you can do with a simple web proxy without fucking with certs |
| 03:14.03 | znf | just like meraki does it |
| 03:14.11 | Dagmar | Even Apache will log the CONNECT commands used for https |
| 03:14.16 | Iriel | I mean, are you looking for âIs anyone being an idiot with our bandwidthâ or are you looking for âIs anyone watching porn during the day"? |
| 03:14.39 | znf | Iriel, more like, "is someone just spending hours on facebook instead of something else?" |
| 03:14.50 | Iriel | Walk past their desk? 8-) |
| 03:14.58 | Arrowmaster | i dont think many porn sites use https, the overhead would cut into profits |
| 03:14.59 | znf | client wants to get reports |
| 03:15.23 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: I dont know about that, they have to make sure people dont have their accounts compromised, etc. |
| 03:15.44 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: also, Mozilla is leading a charge to have *all* web sites be made https by the not too far future |
| 03:15.45 | Arrowmaster | https only for login, they arent going to be sending streaming videos over https |
| 03:16.08 | znf | thing is, I don't really want to do mitm/ca-cert :-/ |
| 03:16.40 | znf | ie: I don't want to touch client computers |
| 03:17.00 | Amarande | http URLs will still be valid to not break legacy links, but they will also be encrypted under Mozilla's new initiative |
| 03:17.29 | Arrowmaster | server would still have to support it |
| 03:21.21 | znf | So, I either recommend the client to stop dreaming about that level of detail reporting |
| 03:21.50 | znf | or, I tell him to shelve out money for something like a meraki gateway + yearly license which can do reports |
| 03:23.18 | Arrowmaster | well you could always build a device to do it |
| 03:23.39 | Arrowmaster | it depends on what hardware you already have |
| 03:23.44 | Amarande | znf: heh, yeah, that's why I always have only a partial sad when I read about loads of workers getting laid off from places |
| 03:23.57 | Amarande | on the one hand, yeah, it sucks that people are losing their jobs and it will be that much harder for people in general to find work |
| 03:24.52 | Amarande | but on the other hand ... if companies really have that many more workers than they need ... it's kind of not really sane or smart to think they have a duty to have so many workers that half their man-hours go away on facebook because they don't actually need that much work done |
| 03:25.03 | Amarande | after all, they're companies, not charities :S |
| 03:26.31 | Iriel | But would they rather have someone who is super productive but spends all day on FB, or someone who gets nothing done who never looks at social media or personal content on the web at all? |
| 03:26.36 | Iriel | Thatâs generally where it gets complicated. |
| 03:26.55 | Iriel | Iâm not saying there arenât often correlations between âslackerâ and âon FB all dayâ |
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| 03:27.25 | Amarande | yeah, that's true, especially in IT, where many say the lazy are the most productive |
| 03:28.23 | Amarande | (because the lazy IT guy is motivated, by being lazy, to script his repetitive tasks) |
| 03:28.45 | Arrowmaster | something happened at work and opendns started blocking lots of stuff it wasnt supposed to for us today, people where putting in requests to get linkedin and stackoverflow unblocked and my bosses were bitching about reddit getting blocked |
| 03:29.21 | Dagmar | Yep. They'll do that. |
| 03:29.23 | Dagmar | _Regularly_. |
| 03:29.41 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: that sounds like your company might not be doing so great in general, though LOL |
| 03:29.54 | Dagmar | If you're using OpenDNS in that capacity, you're going to want to explicitly whitelist shit in your nameserver... particularly _your local network stuff_ |
| 03:30.03 | Amarande | I mean, if the bosses are spending that much time away at reddit, and that many of the employees are that interested in keeping their linkedin up to date ... heh |
| 03:30.27 | Iriel | Linkedin is also useful if yuâre trying to hire people |
| 03:30.29 | Iriel | just sayin' |
| 03:31.13 | Arrowmaster | we seem to pay out the ass for external services. we use dyndns so much that we have to pay for query overages, you get something like 100k per month per domain and we do 5mil |
| 03:35.10 | Amarande | been a long time since I used opendns though, I quit using it in favour of google dns when they started doing NXDOMAIN tomfoolery :( |
| 03:35.25 | Amarande | like really, about half the point of *using* opendns is so that you don't have to deal with that :( |
| 03:35.39 | Dagmar | Well, when you're a customer you have a little flexibility |
| 03:36.03 | Arrowmaster | if you pay they dont do the nxdomain shit |
| 03:39.18 | Amarande | that whole nxdomain stuff should be banned anyway |
| 03:39.26 | Amarande | I mean, what's it kind of the equivalent to |
| 03:40.01 | Amarande | it's like trying to dial your old buddy Gary on the phone, say, and getting a message saying "Gary's number has been disconnected, but would you be interested in the numbers to these local pizza places?" |
| 03:40.47 | Amarande | hell I'm pretty sure even Verizon doesn't descend to that level :) |
| 03:41.12 | Dagmar | If you're a paying OpenDNS customer that's a thing you can turn off |
| 03:45.28 | Amarande | yeah, at least they offer that, and Google still doesn't mess with queries at all :) |
| 03:45.43 | Amarande | the worst is the ISP industry who have pretty much all descended to it with basically no viable opt out option |
| 03:45.50 | Amarande | (and that's even though we're all paying customers there ...) |
| 03:49.29 | Shirik | I did it without destroying my car! https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11140096_10100593622827288_6721177410745590565_n.jpg?oh=de32ddeae0eee9e0af7efb75ad4ed211&oe=55ECB2AA |
| 03:50.26 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 03:50.34 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 03:50.35 | Fisker | destroy it and get one with android auto |
| 03:50.57 | Amarande | what is that anyway, some kind of obdii scanner? |
| 03:51.04 | Amarande | the yellow screen with the weird numbers on it that is |
| 03:51.35 | Shirik | ham radio |
| 03:52.03 | Fisker | a scanner for obd2? |
| 03:52.06 | Shirik | those numbers are just the two frequencies I'm currently tuned to. The left one is a local frequency commonly used, and the right one is the national general call frequency. |
| 03:52.24 | Fisker | android auto Shirik |
| 03:52.55 | Shirik | nope Fisker |
| 03:52.59 | Fisker | yes |
| 03:53.08 | Fisker | Or I'll eliminate you |
| 03:55.23 | phelps | where in the world Shirik |
| 03:55.36 | Shirik | North central Oregon |
| 03:55.50 | phelps | if I was home I'd talk to you |
| 03:56.03 | Shirik | I don't have an HF setup right now :( |
| 03:56.19 | Fisker | I'll come install android auto for you Shirik |
| 03:56.20 | phelps | i run 11 meter CB but can talk on ham freq |
| 03:56.46 | Shirik | I do have a CB setup in my car as well, but mostly just to hear the hilarious truckers |
| 03:57.03 | Shirik | I live right on I-84 so you just hear truckers all day long trying to make their lives not completely boring |
| 03:57.09 | phelps | you can listen on channel 6 for SirMixAlot |
| 03:57.46 | phelps | his handle is Prime Minister |
| 03:58.04 | Shirik | is that who that is |
| 03:58.09 | phelps | doesn't matter where you're at, you can hear him anywhere in north america |
| 03:58.16 | Shirik | I had to take channel 6 off my scanning frequencies |
| 03:58.26 | phelps | yeah, "The Superbowl" |
| 03:58.40 | Shirik | why hasn't the FCC killed him yet? |
| 03:58.50 | phelps | no idea tbh |
| 03:58.54 | phelps | def not legal, haha |
| 03:58.56 | phelps | I can talk on it if the weather is working for me |
| 03:59.03 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~quassel@unaffiliated/kd3) |
| 03:59.06 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 03:59.36 | phelps | I have an antron 99 with a base plane 60 feet in the air |
| 03:59.38 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 03:59.44 | kd3 | something something comcast sucks |
| 03:59.52 | phelps | so I can reach both coasts from Oklahoma |
| 04:00.04 | Arrowmaster | ive come the the conclusion that verizon is worse |
| 04:00.21 | Shirik | My next antenna purchase is going to be a buddipole |
| 04:00.26 | Fisker | don't be rude to comcast kd3 |
| 04:00.35 | Arrowmaster | and i even have verizons direct lvl2 enterprise account number |
| 04:00.36 | Shirik | that should allow me to start doing some serious long-distance comms |
| 04:00.52 | Shirik | from random remote areas; since out where I live there's tons of places you just drive to in the middle of nowhere |
| 04:01.00 | Arrowmaster | night all |
| 04:01.03 | Shirik | night |
| 04:01.17 | Fisker | night Shirik |
| 04:01.25 | Shirik | not night shirik |
| 04:01.27 | Shirik | night Arrowmaster |
| 04:01.31 | Fisker | nope |
| 04:01.35 | Fisker | night Shirik |
| 04:01.44 | Fisker | carries Shirik into bed |
| 04:02.15 | phelps | Shirik, http://www.macoantennas.net/AntennaDetailedPages/M107.html |
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| 04:02.24 | phelps | I want one of those |
| 04:02.52 | Fisker | he's sleeping now phelps |
| 04:03.07 | Shirik | nope |
| 04:03.13 | Fisker | :'( |
| 04:04.08 | phelps | Shirik, I already mess up everyones TVs, soooo |
| 04:04.12 | phelps | prob should leave it alone |
| 04:04.58 | phelps | im not sure what part in desktop speakers does it, but they pickup any CB audio after 500 watts |
| 04:05.15 | phelps | and TVs around the same area |
| 04:05.28 | phelps | maybe closer to 750 for TVs |
| 04:06.44 | Dagmar | If you have people using CB at 500 watts they need to be beaten with a spiked club |
| 04:07.00 | phelps | its how you reach jamaica tho |
| 04:07.06 | phelps | how else can I talk to people in jamaica |
| 04:07.15 | Dagmar | Using shortwave? |
| 04:07.27 | Dagmar | Wait, surely you're fucking with me |
| 04:07.38 | Dagmar | If someone fired up a CB broadcast to the tune of 500 watts the FCC would shit themselves |
| 04:08.15 | kd3 | I expect a black helicopter would be at the site within minutes |
| 04:08.18 | phelps | I think they just don't care |
| 04:08.19 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 04:08.51 | Dagmar | No, dude. there's a cap of 10 watts on that and I used to pick up shit from idiot truckers using crappy "footwarmers" to the tune of 50 watts just from them driving by |
| 04:09.13 | Dagmar | 500 watts would stomp every fucking thing for 100 miles |
| 04:09.30 | Dagmar | ...and the harmonics would make the FCC send out black helicopters |
| 04:10.14 | Dagmar | Having seen them roll out vans before, I know they still care. |
| 04:10.36 | Dagmar | (The above statement does not in any way imply I was involved or even in the city at the time) |
| 04:10.39 | phelps | i run 2k watts at my base station |
| 04:10.46 | phelps | and 1k in my mobile |
| 04:11.42 | phelps | Dagmar, kd3 Shirik http://www.bbiamps.com/index.php/services/ |
| 04:12.05 | phelps | $5k gets you a 6500/7000 watts pep |
| 04:13.02 | kd3 | fireworks? |
| 04:13.03 | phelps | 6 Pill HDHD runs on 110v and outputs over 2k watts with a 80 watt drive |
| 04:13.08 | kd3 | oh, right, we won game 1 |
| 04:13.20 | Dagmar | yeah but not on US CB freqs |
| 04:14.31 | phelps | legally ? |
| 04:14.48 | Dagmar | Not if you don't want a visit from some angry paper pushers |
| 04:15.03 | Dagmar | _Especially_ if you're stationary |
| 04:15.07 | phelps | I really just think they don't care |
| 04:15.16 | phelps | I've not had any problems |
| 04:15.19 | Dagmar | They care when complaints come in |
| 04:15.38 | Dagmar | The incident I referred to above kind of tweaked their noses a bit, and they had a next-day response |
| 04:15.59 | Dagmar | It was in Atlanta, during the freaking day, right over the top of a local FM radio station |
| 04:16.12 | Dagmar | They have an office there. They were pissed about rolling vans on a Sunday |
| 04:16.38 | Dagmar | Yet another reason Atlanta tries to keep hackers as drunk as possible |
| 04:17.11 | phelps | I hardly ever go over 250 watts |
| 04:17.27 | phelps | simply because anything with a speaker in it becomes a radio |
| 04:17.34 | phelps | @ 500 watts |
| 04:17.34 | Dagmar | Well, yes. |
| 04:17.54 | Dagmar | ...and if you're not using one hell of a set of chokes, you're just an asshole |
| 04:18.24 | Dagmar | Personally, I've always been _very_ careful to not interfere with other spectrum like radio dispatch for emergency services |
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| 04:18.55 | phelps | my daily is a DX 250 |
| 04:19.00 | phelps | and I can talk to cali with it |
| 04:19.09 | phelps | from west oklahoma |
| 04:19.37 | phelps | * Texas Star DX-250 |
| 04:20.13 | Dagmar | Well, the moment your cratter interrupts something official, don't be surprised if you get a visit |
| 04:20.20 | Dagmar | s/cratter/chatter/ |
| 04:20.22 | phelps | I built a website for an amp builder and got a large 8 pill 2k watt base station linear |
| 04:20.33 | phelps | as payment |
| 04:21.03 | phelps | and I can't really use it because it just kills everything |
| 04:21.54 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 04:22.00 | Fisker | WDC is stupid |
| 04:22.56 | Shirik | you're stupid |
| 04:23.11 | phelps | Shirik, I never talk on ham channels, ham guys get really pissed off if you don't follow the standard syn-ack method they use |
| 04:23.27 | Shirik | Dagmar: totally agree with beating people using 500W CBs |
| 04:23.45 | Shirik | usually you end up splashing other frequencies because CB radios aren't meant to work at those levels |
| 04:23.47 | phelps | its mostly done on channel 6 to be fair |
| 04:23.52 | phelps | where everyone is doing the same thing |
| 04:24.04 | Dagmar | Thaty won't solve the problem of harmonics |
| 04:24.07 | phelps | far far away from 19 |
| 04:24.16 | Shirik | yeah your problem is the harmonics |
| 04:24.27 | phelps | I've never seen 6 bleed past 7 or 8 |
| 04:24.34 | Dagmar | Oh wow |
| 04:24.39 | Dagmar | see THIS is precisely why you shouldn't do this |
| 04:24.46 | Dagmar | Channel 6 is 27.025 |
| 04:24.59 | Dagmar | Harmonics are at half and double that, and so on |
| 04:25.15 | Shirik | there's an amateur band that's right up against the CB band and it very frequently gets interference |
| 04:25.34 | Dagmar | ...which without chokes, means 500W on 27.025 will be 250W on 13.5125 and 54.05 |
| 04:25.37 | Shirik | because of supercharged CB radios that are not designed to work at those power levels |
| 04:26.10 | Dagmar | ...and 125W on the eighths |
| 04:26.17 | phelps | im sure CB guys piss off ham guys all the time |
| 04:26.21 | Dagmar | ...and at some point you're basically fucking over at least one other important thing locally |
| 04:26.24 | Fisker | no Shirik :( |
| 04:26.39 | Fisker | Do you know about the cookie laws in europe? |
| 04:26.54 | Shirik | (hint: 54MHz is in the amateur band too) |
| 04:27.02 | phelps | 250 watts is audible on my desktop speakers, 500 watts they're pretty much a radio |
| 04:27.06 | Dagmar | phelps: Yes, but they're generally doing it in the 20W and 50W amounts |
| 04:27.08 | phelps | 700 anything with a speaker is a radio |
| 04:27.22 | phelps | not on channel 6 |
| 04:27.35 | phelps | this is really only on channel 6 |
| 04:27.39 | Dagmar | That's what a "footwarmer" is. It's called that because they like to use foot pedal buttons to kick on the extra amp |
| 04:28.10 | phelps | I'm afraid to use my 2k linear for more than 20 or 30 sec |
| 04:28.26 | phelps | because my neighbours hear it |
| 04:28.31 | Shirik | the whole reason ham radio ops are allowed to go up to 1500W is because they also understand how signals work, and how to avoid causing unintended interference |
| 04:28.40 | phelps | its got maybe 15 min talk time on it, in 4 years |
| 04:29.05 | Shirik | but to be honest, I'm surprised a lot of these guys haven't been fined |
| 04:29.06 | phelps | yeah, im def not educated in the field |
| 04:29.20 | Shirik | I would expect hams to have a field day finding them |
| 04:29.25 | phelps | just happen to have gotten a linear and half my family drive trucks |
| 04:29.34 | phelps | so I've been around CBs my whole life |
| 04:30.19 | Shirik | and tbh I don't think ham guys get mad if you don't follow the "syn-ack method" as you call it. They will remind you to sign off with your callsign because it's an FCC regulation, but other than that I think they only REALLY get mad when someone is on an amateur band that is not legally there. |
| 04:30.22 | Dagmar | Using it only very, very sparingly is probably the reason you haven't had neckbeards in vans crawling up your ass |
| 04:31.11 | phelps | I can't really exaggerate what it does to anything with a speaker |
| 04:31.12 | Dagmar | I let some of them around here know what I was up to and they were kind of pissed at me until I showed them just how many steps I'd taken to eliminate all possible fuckery |
| 04:31.20 | phelps | _everything_ becomes a radio |
| 04:31.22 | phelps | its freaky |
| 04:31.45 | phelps | I'd like to know why that happens |
| 04:31.54 | Dagmar | Because resonance |
| 04:31.54 | Shirik | the fcc calls that "harmful interference" :P |
| 04:31.59 | phelps | haha |
| 04:32.14 | Shirik | there's a really fun property where you can fuck over radios and TVs that are totally unrelated, too |
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| 04:32.24 | Dagmar | Have you ever seen someone fire up a tesla coil when you're trying to use wireless networks? |
| 04:32.56 | Shirik | radios and TVs have a filter on them because they expect a certain noise level to not be exceeded. Even if you're on a totally different frequency, you can so severely overdrive the antenna of that radio or TV that you overload the filter and cause interference anyway |
| 04:32.59 | Dagmar | The more common way of powering them makes a _shitton_ of broad spectrum noise that thankfully doesn't travel very far |
| 04:33.00 | Shirik | even though the frequency is totally unrelated |
| 04:33.19 | phelps | Shirik, thats exactly what happens |
| 04:33.34 | Dagmar | ...but more than about 20 seconds of it will make every access point in range basically be covering it's ears screaming "I CAN'T HEAR YOU" for awhile |
| 04:34.22 | Dagmar | We had to sort of carp at the guys bringing the Tesla coil to Phreaknic because when they used it, every AP int he hotel would shut right down |
| 04:34.29 | phelps | what would a tesla coil be measured in, for power |
| 04:34.50 | Dagmar | Metric fucktons of lightning, basically. |
| 04:34.54 | phelps | haha |
| 04:35.06 | Dagmar | It's something like 25,000 V to cross an inch of air |
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| 04:35.31 | Dagmar | A three foot arc? Thank your lucky goddamn stars that's low amp |
| 04:35.55 | phelps | thats another thing about my 2k linear, 70 amps be scarry yo |
| 04:37.21 | phelps | 80 amps, 2k watts @ 24v |
| 04:37.40 | phelps | drops to 18v on key |
| 04:38.00 | Dagmar | You should _really_ read up on this stuff, man |
| 04:38.17 | phelps | i've thought about getting a ham license |
| 04:38.30 | Dagmar | I took it as a point of pride that I was _technically_ a pirate broadcaster for several years on a large FM transmitter, but I never once broke any rules |
| 04:39.01 | phelps | I want to get a SDR |
| 04:39.10 | Dagmar | phelps: Also if you know what you're doing you can talk to Egypt and South America late at night on _much_ less power |
| 04:39.17 | phelps | no, at least online, SDRs around oklahoma |
| 04:39.41 | phelps | Dagmar, around 20 watts or something right ? |
| 04:40.05 | phelps | i know weather has a lot to do with it |
| 04:40.45 | Dagmar | Clear skies |
| 04:40.56 | Dagmar | You can literally bounce stuff off the sky |
| 04:41.04 | phelps | skip |
| 04:41.06 | phelps | or DX |
| 04:41.09 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 04:41.58 | Dagmar | I got somewhat interested in it when I started listening to an AM radio station in Chicago from Nashville |
| 04:42.05 | phelps | haha |
| 04:42.13 | phelps | there was a 50k watt AM station |
| 04:42.14 | phelps | .google |
| 04:42.26 | Dagmar | WLAC or something |
| 04:42.39 | Dagmar | ...or at least there was one here, too. |
| 04:42.47 | Dagmar | I just didn't realize AM would reach that far |
| 04:43.13 | phelps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_50_kW_AM_radio_stations_in_the_United_States |
| 04:43.18 | phelps | so there are a lot of them I guess |
| 04:43.26 | Dagmar | There was a fire once in the shared shack (literally) that it and several others used, and everyone was so surprised |
| 04:43.38 | Dagmar | ...and I'm like, with as much power as was pumping through there, how was there not a fire sooner |
| 04:43.54 | Shirik | thing is, you really don't need that much power |
| 04:43.55 | phelps | right? you'd hear the station at any point 2 metals touched |
| 04:44.12 | Shirik | you only need that much power if you want to touch every ounce of the world without doing any real work finding the people (or doing things like broadcasts) |
| 04:44.21 | phelps | KFAQ1170 kHzTulsa, Oklahoma50 kW U, DAN |
| 04:44.25 | phelps | thats 40 miles from me |
| 04:44.26 | Shirik | but ARRL consistently hands out awards for doing 1000 miles per watt |
| 04:45.23 | phelps | how hard is it to get a basic ham license |
| 04:45.28 | Dagmar | I *think* it was WLS I was listening to |
| 04:45.30 | phelps | the 50 watt limit one I think |
| 04:45.46 | Shirik | even technician license (the lowest one) is 1500W PEP |
| 04:45.53 | Shirik | the limitation is on the frequencies, not power |
| 04:46.11 | Shirik | I take that back it has a few limitations on power, but not really relevant ones |
| 04:46.32 | phelps | arrl.org is down for me |
| 04:46.44 | Shirik | the technician exam is actually pretty easy. You have to learn the core competencies, the things that will teach you to not cause harmful interference, and the FCC regulations |
| 04:46.46 | Shirik | but that's about it |
| 04:47.19 | Shirik | it's the general exam that starts getting into the things that electrical engineers really think about |
| 04:47.23 | phelps | so no morse code |
| 04:47.32 | Shirik | no level of ham license requires morse anymore |
| 04:47.57 | phelps | do you know morse code |
| 04:48.14 | phelps | eh, well enough to communicate with it |
| 04:48.25 | Dagmar | morse code hasn't been a requirement for nearly a decade, thankfully |
| 04:48.46 | Shirik | I don't know morse. I want to learn it, but not my priority right now. |
| 04:48.49 | phelps | my grandpa had his call sign, I used to know it but have forgotten |
| 04:48.53 | Shirik | I know how to send K |
| 04:49.06 | Shirik | also SOS |
| 04:49.09 | Shirik | and that's it |
| 04:49.18 | phelps | he could chat about using morse code like it was nothing |
| 04:49.58 | phelps | faster than I could even interpret a dot from a dash |
| 04:50.29 | phelps | i never really stuck with it |
| 04:50.52 | Dagmar | I had to do morse for The Secret World. |
| 04:51.04 | Dagmar | It took all of 2 minutes to find an Android app to translate it for me |
| 04:51.44 | phelps | sometimes when im scanning ham freq i wonder how many of them are automated |
| 04:51.54 | phelps | lots of morse out there tho |
| 04:52.21 | phelps | also lots of very scarry sounding shit |
| 04:52.35 | Shirik | "scary sounding shit"? |
| 04:52.39 | phelps | you can see counters in waterfall spectrums |
| 04:52.47 | phelps | so i know its some sort of computer broadcast |
| 04:53.01 | Shirik | oh yeah there's a lot of digital frequencies people use |
| 04:53.04 | Shirik | APRS is awesome |
| 04:53.05 | Dagmar | There's rather a lot of that nowadays |
| 04:53.12 | Shirik | it's like text messaging before text messaging existed |
| 04:53.29 | phelps | listen to those |
| 04:53.37 | phelps | it sounds scarry and alien |
| 04:53.45 | Shirik | I think it sounds more like a modem |
| 04:53.50 | Shirik | from back in the stone ages |
| 04:54.03 | Shirik | most packet data is just being sent at 9800bps |
| 04:54.03 | Dagmar | Some of it _is_ basically a modem |
| 04:54.15 | Shirik | 9600? |
| 04:54.16 | Shirik | whatever it is |
| 04:54.21 | phelps | http://websdr.org/ |
| 04:54.22 | Dagmar | 9600, yes |
| 04:54.36 | Dagmar | THe equipment to do that costs what, a dollar now? |
| 04:54.37 | Shirik | oh have you ever listened to SSTV? |
| 04:54.45 | Shirik | that's a fun sounding data |
| 04:54.46 | Dagmar | Only on drugs |
| 04:55.12 | Dagmar | I broadcast a little on FM as "ambient noise" |
| 04:55.18 | phelps | somewhere in these is a global pulse freq |
| 04:55.19 | Shirik | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3k6Xt30Z7g |
| 04:55.21 | Dagmar | 'cuz art. :) |
| 04:55.33 | phelps | i forget what its called |
| 04:55.38 | phelps | but its to keep time |
| 04:55.48 | Dagmar | ...even though machine-only transmissions on comsumer FM radio is strictly verboten |
| 04:55.56 | Dagmar | WWIV |
| 04:56.17 | Dagmar | There's a different standard for european time code |
| 04:57.17 | Shirik | oh here we go, here's a color one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6IXp1Y7WLg |
| 04:57.20 | Shirik | (cover your ears) |
| 04:57.43 | Shirik | phelps: is that what you were talking about? ^ |
| 04:58.19 | phelps | like wtf is this http://i.imgur.com/TobsSG9.png |
| 04:58.41 | Dagmar | Look it up by freq. Much easier |
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| 05:15.35 | phelps | Dagmar, I've def listened to some SSTV stuff |
| 05:16.12 | phelps | wish I'd know that then I prob could have found some software to decode it |
| 05:30.54 | Dagmar | The nice thing about slow scan is that it's so primitive you can record it on a cassette tape |
| 05:33.53 | Torhal | ~emulate Shirik |
| 05:33.53 | purl | I'll whine about anything |
| 05:33.56 | Torhal | :O |
| 05:34.01 | Primer | Ok, 1 camera and mic fixed |
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| 07:54.03 | Shirik | Dagmar: phelps: yeah I saw some guy record an incoming sstv transmission on his phone once, and then play it from his phone into a microphone at home to get the resulting picture |
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| 09:04.41 | WrathTECH | Ugg, I did this once, lost the code, and don't remember how I made a frame that changed color based on combat, resting states |
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| 09:21.39 | Gnarfoz | kd3: already complaining about Comcast? :D |
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| 09:23.53 | WrathTECH | Comcast is really that bad huh? I remember there used to be tons of issues with them and WoW |
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| 10:23.33 | WrathTECH | http://pastebin.com/mU9rZChi Can't get text to show for the life of me, can someone take a look, please? |
| 10:26.41 | Semlar | you have wCENTER for the anchor |
| 10:27.38 | WrathTECH | Nevermind that, it was a typo when I pasted it. It's gone now. |
| 10:29.09 | WrathTECH | http://pastebin.com/Y1NSXvw3 |
| 10:31.18 | Semlar | createfontstring shouldn't have any arguments |
| 10:32.29 | Semlar | and you need you check that your font actually exists on that path |
| 10:32.43 | Semlar | you should also know how to troubleshoot things yourself by now |
| 10:33.04 | Kalroth | just step through the code in your debugger |
| 10:33.17 | WrathTECH | Yes, I have been, but this ones been fucking iwithme real bad. |
| 10:33.41 | Semlar | also your frame isn't anchored to anything and your font string is anchored to that so it's not going to show up regardless |
| 10:35.20 | Semlar | your frame should also be a child of UIParent if you intend it to be visible |
| 10:35.50 | Semlar | otherwise ui scale isn't going to apply to it and it won't get hidden when the ui is |
| 10:39.29 | WrathTECH | Still nada, http://pastebin.com/QBjN1syq |
| 10:39.45 | Semlar | your frame still isn't anchored to anything |
| 10:39.52 | WrathTECH | The frame fading and showing works great going into an inn, just can't get that stupid text. |
| 10:41.25 | Semlar | do you understand what i mean by that |
| 10:41.29 | Semlar | your frame has no anchors |
| 10:41.44 | Semlar | you're not calling setpoint on f2 |
| 10:42.49 | Semlar | and worldframe isn't uiparent, but that's a separate issue |
| 10:44.26 | WrathTECH | f2:SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "Center") added, swapped to UIParent, can't ever remember which one to use |
| 10:44.34 | WrathTECH | And, typoed |
| 10:45.38 | Semlar | you should virtually never be using worldframe unless you have some reason to have a frame always visible and not scale |
| 10:48.54 | WrathTECH | One more try and im giving up, been on this for an hour and a half. http://pastebin.com/yXjQwQAD |
| 10:49.21 | WrathTECH | Probably be easier just to create a whole different frame and tie it to my bar. |
| 10:51.03 | Semlar | you.. you removed the anchor from the font string |
| 10:51.14 | Semlar | why would you do that |
| 10:51.25 | Semlar | i'm going to throttle you |
| 10:52.40 | Semlar | it sounds like you don't really understand what SetPoint does |
| 10:53.08 | WrathTECH | Well, it's not like I have a book here, that explains ever tiny step in Lua. |
| 10:53.21 | WrathTECH | Christ, I'm learning, give me a break here. |
| 10:53.25 | Semlar | you have a website that explains all of the methods |
| 10:53.34 | WrathTECH | I use 3 sites. |
| 10:53.58 | WrathTECH | Peace, im out for the night |
| 10:56.02 | Semlar | this is why i could never be a teacher |
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| 10:59.40 | WrathTECH | Sorry Semlar, I just don't have patience right now for crap. Still working on getting my anxiety , depression, and getting tested for ADHD |
| 11:00.37 | WrathTECH | The fatiquge I have is unbearable, making it hard to get all this Lua stuck in my head. : / |
| 11:01.39 | Semlar | sounds rough |
| 11:02.34 | WrathTECH | Yeah, it's been a year since started treatment. Been dealing with a lot of bull from our neighbors also, harassing me. It's like a reset button, I swear. |
| 11:05.02 | WrathTECH | Not to mention my Grandpa is on his death bed, so super on edge right now. |
| 11:13.09 | WrathTECH | Damn OCD. Can't get my text to fade out, fade in works well |
| 11:18.07 | WrathTECH | Have you guys ever had a FM contact you cause your doing something that looks suspicious while programming? lol |
| 11:19.42 | Mr_Rabies | FM? |
| 11:20.01 | WrathTECH | Sorry, GM |
| 11:20.11 | WrathTECH | Meds are kickingin, feeling good. lol |
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| 13:47.00 | Torhal | Semlar: Well, at least you didn't throttle him. |
| 13:47.21 | Semlar | :( |
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| 14:00.39 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: control your urges |
| 14:00.59 | Torhal | I'm so sorry, Gnarfoz. |
| 14:01.03 | Torhal | ~whalenuke Gnarfoz |
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| 14:41.06 | harl | there needs to be a larger stack size for savage feasts |
| 14:44.27 | Amarande | harl: heh, feasts are probably even more important now than ever, too |
| 14:45.05 | Amarande | ... because apart from hunting little and basically non-materially improving treasures in the world, there apparently really isn't much to do in the outside world in wod besides raid, heh |
| 14:45.28 | Amarande | not much point to solo food when you spend most of your solo time in garrison :S |
| 14:46.54 | harl | i still create the "solo food" for myself when i care for the additional stats |
| 14:47.38 | Semlar | i only use yolo food |
| 14:47.43 | harl | and there's a lot more to do than just treasure hunting |
| 14:48.57 | Amarande | Which seems to be what quite a few forum people are moving on to consolidating their complaints about ... it's not just the F word, it's all the other stuff that was removed, undelivered, or cut back in this expansion pack while meanwhile they charged us 20% more for it :S |
| 14:49.33 | Amarande | yeah, I'm glad I waited till wod was $40 on amazon it seems ... and I think I'll not be back to the game until I see some sort of reversal of this trend of less-for-more |
| 14:49.42 | harl | ok |
| 14:49.56 | harl | not sure how that's related to stack sizes |
| 14:50.07 | Amarande | harl: one more thing they didn't do for you :) |
| 14:50.26 | harl | don't speak for me |
| 14:52.40 | foxlit | harl: out of interest, which storage space did you run out of with all those feasts? |
| 14:53.51 | harl | none, i just want a larger stack size for them, because i get a lot of them from my array of barns - and people don't even buy the feasts on the auction house |
| 14:54.25 | Amarande | harl: that's probably because they're getting theirs from their array of barns, too LOL |
| 14:54.32 | harl | yes |
| 14:54.40 | harl | hece my "request" |
| 14:54.43 | harl | *hence |
| 14:54.46 | Amarande | another thing we can add to the 'things that are dying out in wod' list ... 'meaningful player economy' heh |
| 14:55.12 | Amarande | seriously, you know how many things I've had even only as far as level 84 that used to be fast sellers that now would sit for days and days and days? |
| 14:55.25 | Amarande | even leveling income staples like gold and truesilver bars don't sell anymore |
| 14:55.26 | foxlit | dunno; there's no technical reason everything couldn't stack to 2^32-1. |
| 14:56.15 | harl | of course not, it's just a few bytes either way |
| 14:56.54 | Amarande | foxlit: hah, then next thing even bags wouldn't be able to sell on AH :( |
| 14:56.56 | foxlit | which just leaves the game design one that goes something like "we want to create a tension of figuring out which items you would like to keep, rather than allowing you to store an infinity of everything" |
| 14:57.32 | harl | yes, as with every rpg |
| 14:57.37 | harl | ever since rpgs existed |
| 14:57.53 | Amarande | hm, what does sell on ah anymore ... scanty female transmogs and the few enchants you're allowed to have at max level or are good on heirloom weapons ... that seems to be about it |
| 14:58.16 | Amarande | foxlit: yeah, it was one of the main reasons that say legend of dragoon even had difficulty :) |
| 14:58.46 | Amarande | you had a like ... 32 item total inventory and not a jot stacked |
| 14:58.58 | foxlit | so increasing feast stack size for no other reason than "I have a lot of them!" seems kind of meh. |
| 14:59.00 | Amarande | against which the only bone thrown to you was that healing items were insanely powerful compared to most rpgs :) |
| 14:59.19 | foxlit | maybe if it was "My raid group needs 10000 feasts per night and they're taking up all of my bag slots" or something :P |
| 15:00.01 | Amarande | foxlit: vanilla warlocks are probably waving to you about now. :) |
| 15:00.13 | Amarande | must have sucked to be a warlock in vanilla :( |
| 15:00.39 | Amarande | you had to do all that busy work for the group compared to most everyone else, and as a reward you got the opportunity to get even less shinies than everyone else |
| 15:00.47 | Amarande | since you had to dedicate one or even two full bag slots to shards :) |
| 15:04.43 | harl | well, there's no really good reason to have 200 crystal vials or 200 light parchments in a single stack |
| 15:06.28 | Amarande | harl: sure there is |
| 15:06.31 | foxlit | those are trade skill reagents with a somewhat different usage pattern and relevancy range compared to feasts, though I suppose "good" is relative. |
| 15:06.43 | harl | yea |
| 15:06.45 | Amarande | harl: when you're leveling those professions you basically need a vial or a parchment for every craft |
| 15:07.02 | harl | i know that, i've leveled them |
| 15:07.03 | Amarande | huge stack means you can buy all you need in one swoop, convenience :) |
| 15:08.31 | Amarande | ... and dammit, why do I have to move and pay off debts :( now I'm missing legend of dragoon, but I'm not spending any money on gaming atm and the PS3 is already disconnected and ready to pack up *sigh* |
| 15:09.19 | Semlar | but why can't i hold all these feasts |
| 15:10.24 | Amarande | Semlar: state health regulations require cooked food that is not placed into refrigeration within two hours to be discarded ... :) |
| 15:10.47 | Semlar | i don't actually carry feasts because that would involve doing something for somebody else |
| 15:10.59 | Amarande | which makes me wonder, why doesn't wow food have limited duration :) |
| 15:11.22 | Amarande | you'd think food should go bad after a while, unless it's something like Graccu's mincemeat pie or something :) |
| 15:13.17 | harl | i set up feasts in almost every raid - 1964 feasts left |
| 15:15.29 | harl | the only other (non-currency) item i have more of than feasts is windwool cloth |
| 15:17.56 | foxlit | http://www.curseforge.com/media/attachments/57/496/missioncounters1.jpg |
| 15:17.59 | harl | which peaks at 7794 now |
| 15:18.00 | foxlit | well, that's... interesting. |
| 15:22.08 | harl | it is? |
| 15:22.56 | foxlit | that thing is a tooltip attached and parented to another tooltip; it has an onhide handler that hides itself. There should be no way that it can persist without its parent like that. |
| 15:26.36 | Amarande | foxlit: tooltips seem to be a tad glitchy lately |
| 15:26.37 | harl | i see.. it seems the text is not parented to the tooltip's frame then |
| 15:26.59 | Amarande | I've sometimes seen tooltips (might be that I use tiptac, not sure if it's tiptac or general bugginess with tooltips) just plain go on vacation altogether |
| 15:27.09 | Amarande | then I run the mouse over something (think it's the minimap) and they come back |
| 15:27.29 | harl | that's general bugginess |
| 15:27.48 | harl | it's probably been reported dozens of times |
| 15:29.30 | Amarande | yeah, wod really isn't blizzard's shining hour |
| 15:29.50 | Amarande | they haven't fixed that and it's been around for months, they haven't fixed the lack of zone chat in hillsbrad and that's been a thing since before wod even I think |
| 15:30.42 | Amarande | actually come to think of it the titan team might be able to be blamed for this in a way. they probably had to stop and spend a lot of time and money on training for all the folks that were brought (possibly back after years) to the wow team that would otherwise have gone to the expansion itself :( |
| 15:41.16 | Torhal | I don't like putting people on ignore, so I'm seriously considering leaving the channel so I don't have to see the dead-horse-beating and conspiracy theory nonsense. |
| 15:41.34 | Torhal | In the typical stream-of-conciousness style, no less. |
| 15:42.06 | Torhal | The fact that several people in the channel have you on ignore, and that I felt the need to say this, should tell you something. |
| 15:43.08 | Shirik | http://www.businessinsider.com/china-will-use-drones-to-hunt-for-cheaters-during-the-worlds-most-stressful-exam-2015-6?utm_content=buffer3bd11&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer |
| 15:49.08 | pompy | lol nice |
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| 16:02.51 | Stanzilla | https://community.spotify.com/t5/Spotify-Announcements/Spotify-Client-1-x-beta-for-Linux-has-been-released/m-p/1147091 |
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| 16:10.51 | bluspacecow | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkNWTDr5BPI |
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| 16:16.36 | foxlit | harl: it's inherited from GTT, so I don't think that is likely |
| 16:19.00 | foxlit | I'm probably missing something else that calls Show/Hide; destroying anchoring in OnHide will probably hide that effect. |
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| 16:21.43 | harl | i've seen tooltips remain visible when they should have been hidden, but only as a whole and never just the text |
| 16:22.00 | foxlit | that is the whole tooltip. |
| 16:23.09 | harl | this happened (and somtimes still happens) when frames were so close together, the cursor would just move to the other fame, but the tooltip wouldn't refresh and sometimes it would get stuck with the information from the 1st frame |
| 16:23.25 | harl | *frame |
| 16:23.48 | harl | that's about the only similar issue i've had with tooltips |
| 16:27.12 | karl_w_w | I know some of you will enjoy this http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-05/new-tarantula-genus-discovered-in-australias-nt/6525552 |
| 16:28.55 | harl | yay spider |
| 16:52.12 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/GeorgeTakei/status/606839147391651840 |
| 16:52.14 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 16:52.27 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.22 | phelps | obv its a naughty picture |
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| 17:13.18 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:16.37 | Iriel | karl_w_w: that article is wierd, it refers to Sophie as âMr Harrisonâ. Is that some strange australian habit? |
| 17:17.46 | Iriel | âMr Harrison is studying trapdoor spiders for her PhDâ |
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| 17:29.40 | zenzelezz | it's interesting how much more careful people become about locking their computers before leaving them after they discover that someone has changed the name of the boss on Skype |
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| 17:36.43 | karl_w_w | well it is in a way Iriel, it's the habit of the australian media to be shit at their jobs |
| 17:38.04 | Icicle | zenzelezz: I personally prefer installing a little CD tray opening bash |
| 17:38.32 | Icicle | Sauce: http://www.instructables.com/id/CD-Drive-Prank/step2/Type-in-the-code/ |
| 17:38.59 | Icicle | Did this to one of the student workers, took him a week to notice... kid wasn't bright. |
| 17:39.50 | zenzelezz | I remember taking a screenshot of someone's desktop, setting it as their background picture, and telling Windows to hide the desktop icons |
| 17:39.59 | Icicle | ah ha yah I've done that also |
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| 17:59.12 | Ackis | Okay, what's wrong with this syntax: rsync --archive --verbose --human-readable --progress --delete --itemize-changes --delete-excluded --exclude-from=/opt/backupscripts/backup-exclude /home/ /media/Pictures/ /media/Family Videos/ /backup/daily/ |
| 18:00.16 | Fisker | Well you're not escaping spaces for one |
| 18:00.23 | Shirik | zenzelezz: lol |
| 18:01.47 | Fisker | The better one is turning it upside down as well |
| 18:02.37 | Iriel | The lack of quotes around Family Videos |
| 18:02.50 | Iriel | (or, âwhat fisker said 2 minutes before meâ) |
| 18:03.42 | Ackis | Fisker, Iriel: Interesting - in the script they're quoted but when I echo the command they disappear |
| 18:03.58 | Iriel | Because the shell is what parses the quotes |
| 18:04.01 | Iriel | so echo never sees them |
| 18:04.40 | Ackis | is there a way around that? makes sense, just never thought of it |
| 18:07.22 | Iriel | Iâm not aware of any normal commands that output that way, though you could probably write one easily enough |
| 18:09.15 | Fisker | Tab complete the paths |
| 18:09.24 | Fisker | Then you're certain they're correct |
| 18:09.37 | Semlar | tab-completes Fisker |
| 18:10.04 | Ackis | Fisker: I purposely was avoiding escaping the space to make it easier to read |
| 18:10.41 | Fisker | Why? |
| 18:10.55 | Ackis | The problem I'm having though is that the /home and /media stuff aren't actually getting synced |
| 18:11.01 | Ackis | Fisker: personal preference |
| 18:11.05 | Ackis | so no real good reason |
| 18:11.19 | Iriel | Ackis: do you have any extraneous content in backup-exclude |
| 18:11.22 | Iriel | like a blank line? |
| 18:11.35 | Ackis | yes |
| 18:12.01 | Iriel | Actually I see blank lines are ignored |
| 18:12.07 | Ackis | http://pastebin.com/tC98EAUq |
| 18:12.47 | Shirik | http://www.theguardian.com/money/2015/jun/05/student-changes-name-by-deed-poll-to-avoid-220-ryanair-admin-fee |
| 18:14.01 | Iriel | I think the exclude file doesnât use the filter prefix |
| 18:15.01 | Iriel | Though I dont think that should be causing over-exclusion as much as under-exclusion |
| 18:18.15 | Iriel | Also, isnât specifying multiple source directories going to merge all of their contents together into the result? |
| 18:18.28 | Iriel | (Iâve only ever used rsync with a single src and dest, so I just dont know) |
| 18:18.33 | Ackis | no clue - that's what I'm trying to figure out |
| 18:18.52 | Ackis | right now I have it broken into 4 separate commands, I was hoping to merge them into one |
| 18:21.20 | Iriel | You need--relative for that |
| 18:22.05 | Iriel | itâll include those full directory paths |
| 18:30.24 | Dagmar | Adam West, you say? Yeah, I can see why he'd change his name _to_ that. |
| 18:30.30 | Dagmar | Now he's fuckin' BATMAN. |
| 18:34.29 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:43.26 | Fisker | I'm hungry |
| 18:52.04 | Dagmar | Semlar: Yeah, there's a reason I just drink Heineken |
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| 18:57.57 | Semlar | don't make me get my catling gun |
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| 19:00.34 | Jamash | Ogre Brüt: 50% of the time, it happens every time. |
| 19:01.34 | foxlit | 50% of the time, it doesn't ever happen. |
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| 19:08.54 | Jamash | I had it bypass a taunt and kill exactly the minion I wanted |
| 19:08.59 | Jamash | which is when I said that to myself |
| 19:09.22 | Jamash | also, random is random |
| 19:10.35 | foxlit | I just liked that language made that statement not necessarily wrong. |
| 19:11.16 | Jamash | you must put your FAITH in RNGEESUS and he will DELIVER you from LETHAL |
| 19:11.57 | foxlit | starting hand: nullifier, chromaggus, guardian. |
| 19:14.13 | foxlit | shieldbot, belcher, consort, truesilver. |
| 19:14.20 | foxlit | can't tell if this is going to end well or horribly |
| 19:21.26 | Semlar | i wonder why they changed WorldMapOverlay to a db2 file |
| 19:21.46 | Semlar | they must want to be able to update it without releasing a client patch |
| 19:23.05 | Semlar | but they rarely add anything with overlays |
| 19:23.23 | foxlit | monument to grom hellscream incoming |
| 19:44.41 | Iriel | Just 2 more segments left on TIS-100 |
| 19:44.49 | Iriel | Prime Detector and Stored Image Decoder. |
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| 19:54.05 | zenzelezz | reminds me of Carmack's tweet, https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/606829301770686466 |
| 19:54.36 | Iriel | I think part of the appeal is that itâs incredibly constrained |
| 19:59.21 | nebula169 | that's kind of neat |
| 20:05.43 | Iriel | Prime Detector done, though itâs /slow/ |
| 20:07.39 | zenzelezz | in a month they'll release the first DLC, where you have to optimize it all for ARM64 |
| 20:12.42 | Jamash | zenzelezz: naw |
| 20:12.46 | Jamash | IA-64 |
| 20:14.52 | zenzelezz | don't be silly, if they wanted to use out-of-fashion architectures they'd go with SPARC or MIPS or something :D |
| 20:17.54 | Jamash | zenzelezz: the joke is not even intel ever figured out how to optimize for it |
| 20:21.27 | zenzelezz | dang, you're right... I didn't catch that |
| 20:30.50 | foxlit | if there ever was a good candidate for an html5 game... that would be it. |
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| 20:56.30 | Iriel | And done! |
| 21:04.55 | fewyn | women's world cup starts tomorrow |
| 21:04.58 | fewyn | in canada |
| 21:05.42 | nevcairiel | of what |
| 21:07.42 | fewyn | world cup = soccer |
| 21:07.54 | nevcairiel | other sports have world cups |
| 21:08.53 | fewyn | when people normally reference the world cup it's usually assumed to be soccer |
| 21:09.06 | fewyn | but yes you're right |
| 21:09.07 | nevcairiel | without the womens prefix, maybe |
| 21:09.19 | fewyn | according to wikipedia there's also a cricket world cup |
| 21:09.21 | fewyn | and rugby |
| 21:09.33 | fewyn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Cup |
| 21:09.36 | fewyn | and a bunch of others |
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