| 00:09.53 | Arrowmaster | got vpn working on my new company laptop and i get into the internal wiki and under the NOCs section of the wiki i find all this useful information and then at the bottom of the main page is a link to a donut schedule and scanned chinese takeout menus |
| 00:11.39 | Shirik | The difference between soccer and baseball is that in soccer they call this a good player, and in baseball you get ejected: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyNZGm4gVH8 |
| 00:12.56 | nevcairiel | pretending to get hurt doesnt make good players in any sport |
| 00:24.56 | Stanzilla | I hate the fact that it's ok in soccer |
| 00:25.41 | Stanzilla | it has to be really really really obvious to give you a yellow card |
| 00:39.21 | Shirik | wtf |
| 00:39.23 | Shirik | he was in here too? |
| 00:39.27 | Shirik | why |
| 00:39.38 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 00:40.07 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b-o *!*@*static.reverse.softlayer.com Shirik] by Shirik |
| 00:41.09 | Mr_Rabies | do what |
| 01:16.54 | WrathTECH | Apparently the guild check bug in my addon I have been trying to fix was just the fact my update timer was broken. -_- |
| 01:23.42 | Gnarfoz | who's "he", and why are you banning all of Softlayer oO |
| 01:26.43 | Simca | Stanzilla: it baffles me when they update live's cdnconfig to ptr's latest cdnconfig. it does absolutely nothing except cause the battle.net to show an update progress bar, download the new config, realize it can't do anything because there isn't a build config, and then remove the update bar |
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| 01:28.09 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 01:28.11 | Stanzilla | and email spam |
| 01:29.02 | Simca | they only make this mistake with WoW for some reason |
| 01:29.07 | Simca | and it only started a couple weeks ago |
| 01:29.34 | Stanzilla | heroes looked weird too |
| 01:29.42 | Stanzilla | but I forgot what the build number before today was |
| 01:29.48 | Simca | 35360 |
| 01:30.04 | Simca | it's a minor update to fix some bugs |
| 01:30.20 | Stanzilla | no I meant before |
| 01:30.39 | Simca | it was 35360 before today. |
| 01:30.51 | Simca | it is 35529 now |
| 01:31.00 | Stanzilla | ah |
| 01:31.03 | Stanzilla | ok so I just cant read |
| 01:31.14 | Stanzilla | I read that was 35329 and thought it was the current one |
| 01:31.20 | Stanzilla | and was confused as to why they switched that around |
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| 02:18.51 | WrathTECH | Well, how detailed do you have to get creating a new addon? fml |
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| 02:28.17 | WrathTECH | So I am trying to resubmit for approval and keep getting a 404 |
| 02:28.51 | Semlar | torhal |
| 02:29.01 | Torhal | Hmm? |
| 02:29.40 | Semlar | WrathTECH: what website are you using |
| 02:29.46 | WrathTECH | CurseForge |
| 02:30.06 | Torhal | o.O |
| 02:30.17 | Torhal | Shouldn't be getting a 404... |
| 02:30.23 | WrathTECH | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.24 | Torhal | Unless you typo'd the URL. |
| 02:30.41 | WrathTECH | No typo, using the provided links on the project management page. |
| 02:31.36 | Torhal | That's...weird...considering 404 is Not Found. |
| 02:31.48 | WrathTECH | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/platter/resubmit-for-approval/ is the link it's sending me to |
| 02:32.08 | Torhal | And you're still getting a 404? |
| 02:32.12 | WrathTECH | Yes |
| 02:32.25 | WrathTECH | I can modify the description no problem |
| 02:32.27 | Torhal | I get this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/f1g8hlcff4ixdk2/Screenshot%202015-05-18%2021.32.21.png?dl=0 |
| 02:32.58 | WrathTECH | Maybe it's a firefox addon conflict then. |
| 02:33.10 | Semlar | well that would be alarming |
| 02:33.35 | WrathTECH | I have several addons that block social networking, etc. |
| 02:34.02 | Semlar | sure, but it shouldn't be redirecting somewhere else |
| 02:34.29 | WrathTECH | It's not redirecting, I can assure you that. |
| 02:34.40 | WrathTECH | If anything, my addons remove redirects like on Google. |
| 02:34.43 | Semlar | well if you're getting a 404 it is because the page exists |
| 02:35.08 | Stanzilla | start firefox in save mode and try again |
| 02:35.10 | WrathTECH | All addons disabled still getting a 404. |
| 02:35.21 | Semlar | screenshot? |
| 02:37.25 | Dagmar | Wait... wat? |
| 02:37.36 | Dagmar | Getting a 404 because the page _exists_? |
| 02:37.38 | WrathTECH | Safe Mode, still 404'd |
| 02:37.41 | Dagmar | Do you work for imgur? |
| 02:38.05 | WrathTECH | Rofl, no |
| 02:38.49 | WrathTECH | Guess, next, try IE11... |
| 02:40.04 | Dagmar | I got an insane error message from them earlier trying to create a linked G+ account |
| 02:40.24 | Dagmar | For a minute there it looked like the apostrophe in my name was the problem causing the malfunction. |
| 02:40.40 | Dagmar | I was about to post a screenshot of the event back to Imgur titled "Blood in the water" |
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| 02:42.02 | WrathTECH | Think im installing linux tomorrow : / |
| 02:42.15 | Stanzilla | that will fix the site for sure |
| 02:42.21 | WrathTECH | lol |
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| 02:43.43 | WrathTECH | Got it resubmitted, was just an issue with Firefox |
| 02:44.13 | Torhal | Figured. That codepath hasn't changed in YEARS. |
| 02:44.40 | WrathTECH | Who knows. I've been debating on moving away from Firefox |
| 02:44.45 | Torhal | And it's a singlly-hosted site, so the 404 wouldn't be a network error. |
| 02:44.58 | Torhal | singly* |
| 02:45.30 | WrathTECH | Was almost starting to think it was my freeDNS servers. |
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| 02:45.39 | WrathTECH | But, back in a few minutes, Thank you guys |
| 02:46.04 | Torhal | Ok. Time to pass the hell out. I hope. |
| 02:46.11 | Semlar | well it's not a problem with firefox |
| 02:48.50 | WrathTECH | Night Torhal. |
| 02:49.03 | WrathTECH | Semlar: What OS you running |
| 02:49.10 | Semlar | windows 7 |
| 02:49.23 | WrathTECH | Kk, prolly just a configuration error in my FF then. |
| 02:49.31 | phelps | WrathTECH, not Chrome |
| 02:49.41 | phelps | I'm thinking of moving back to Firefox |
| 02:49.43 | WrathTECH | No, I tried Chrome... hated it. |
| 02:49.55 | phelps | Chrome uses 6+GB of ram sometimes |
| 02:50.03 | phelps | its like it has no limits |
| 02:50.22 | phelps | I even switch from ABP to uBlock |
| 02:50.38 | WrathTECH | Hah, I |
| 02:50.41 | WrathTECH | love ABP |
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| 03:00.05 | Mr_Rabies | geez, my chrome doesn't get nearly that bad |
| 03:00.09 | Mr_Rabies | what it did do at one point, though |
| 03:00.13 | Mr_Rabies | was make a 51GB log file |
| 03:00.36 | Mr_Rabies | fired up windirstat |
| 03:00.38 | Mr_Rabies | went WAT |
| 03:01.59 | pompy | ~wowalert |
| 03:01.59 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 03:02.22 | pompy | guess they are posting it last minute |
| 03:02.26 | pompy | or doing nothing. |
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| 03:18.09 | Arrowmaster | whos mooninaut again? |
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| 03:42.27 | Kraps | http://www.wired.com/2015/05/warcraft-orgrim-reveal-exclusive/ |
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| 03:59.11 | A-KO | Arrowmaster |
| 04:06.47 | WrathTECH | Woo, cow level on my hardcore toon. |
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| 04:32.58 | karl_w_w | cities skylines patchthis week, here come the tunnels |
| 04:33.08 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/SKgCjgk.png |
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| 04:34.33 | Dagmar | celebrates |
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| 05:24.04 | WrathTECH | Wasn't there a way to set the cursor while over a frame to an external file? SetCursor("Path\\To\\Blp\\cursor") isn't working for me |
| 05:25.18 | Semlar | only textures in the client |
| 05:25.58 | WrathTECH | Well that sucks. Is there a 100% transparent texture with-in the game then? |
| 05:32.36 | Semlar | i doubt it |
| 05:49.28 | WrathTECH | Meh, thanks anyways... change of mind. |
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| 06:39.20 | WrathTECH | http://pastebin.com/195dFagX |
| 06:39.34 | WrathTECH | Can't figure out why this won't play the sound files |
| 06:40.10 | Semlar | again, it's because you don't have quotes around your horde and alliance strings |
| 06:40.43 | Semlar | you even have them in the comment |
| 06:43.06 | WrathTECH | Ahh dang it. ROFL |
| 06:43.49 | WrathTECH | Now... I feel like Dumass |
| 06:43.57 | WrathTECH | Pun might be intended |
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| 06:50.52 | WrathTECH | o.O Isn't the PLAYER_LOGIN event only supposed to play on the first login, and not a reload ui or port load screen? |
| 06:53.07 | WrathTECH | Nvm |
| 06:58.40 | karl_w_w | HAHAHAHA https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/596720613433147392 |
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| 07:54.43 | VIad | how can I see what she was responding to, karl_w_w? |
| 08:14.47 | karl_w_w | you can't the account was suspecded |
| 08:14.51 | karl_w_w | suspended |
| 08:15.54 | Fisker | Why is it suspended_ |
| 08:15.56 | Fisker | ? |
| 08:16.26 | karl_w_w | @jk_rowling @Matthew_Ireson Fuck off you Labour CUNT. All you lefties are finished in this country, especially you JK bitchface. |
| 08:21.56 | Kalroth | rude |
| 08:38.30 | WrathTECH | Why wont blizz make Shannox soloable... rageface is so annoying when you can't just burst Shannox down fast enough |
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| 08:41.50 | nevcairiel | just kill rageface |
| 08:42.22 | WrathTECH | Can't kill him fast eough either. |
| 08:42.37 | WrathTECH | THis is 25H btw. |
| 08:43.44 | nevcairiel | if you are a pet class send it on rageface, obviously, if you are not, turn off heroic for that one fight 0p |
| 08:44.26 | WrathTECH | Disabling heroic difficulty, makes it so you cannot kill Ragnaros. Im mount farming |
| 08:44.37 | nevcairiel | sucks to be you |
| 08:44.58 | WrathTECH | Yup. |
| 08:50.19 | Mr_Rabies | what class, WrathTECH :O |
| 08:50.38 | WrathTECH | Fury Warrior. 654 ilvl |
| 08:51.19 | Mr_Rabies | do you have anything that lets you attack/attacks on your behalf even if you're stunned/incapacitated? if not there are a few trinkets that -should- work |
| 08:52.04 | nevcairiel | WrathTECH: skill bloodbath, it can break the rage |
| 08:52.53 | WrathTECH | Ill have to check that out in a bit. playing D3 atm |
| 09:28.38 | WrathTECH | How long does it take Curse.com to update your project after you've uploaded a file or edited your page on CurseForge.com |
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| 10:30.40 | karl_w_w | usually it's pretty much instantaneous WrathTECH |
| 10:31.13 | WrathTECH | I figured, it seems my Curse.com is bugged out... put a ticket in so we will see. Thanks for the reply though |
| 10:36.43 | Simca | if you aren't committing to a repository, you have to wait for the upload to be approved before it will show up for anyone besides you on curseforge and before it will be synced to curse.com |
| 10:37.12 | Simca | the status of the file will show up as 'awaiting approval' or something like that |
| 10:37.31 | WrathTECH | Yup, file got approved a few years ago |
| 10:37.35 | WrathTECH | err.. hours |
| 10:49.15 | [TOM_RUS] | WrathTECH, ragnaros mount drops on any difficulty, so... |
| 10:49.32 | WrathTECH | Yes, it does. |
| 10:49.55 | WrathTECH | From what I hear, 25H has best chance, unless 10H has the same chance |
| 10:50.52 | [TOM_RUS] | same chance on all difficulties |
| 10:51.36 | WrathTECH | About what I was expecting, Thanks. |
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| 11:47.52 | karl_w_w | seen this VIad? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrs9nMXVoKM |
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| 12:38.01 | nevcairiel | thats pretty good |
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| 12:51.43 | Kalroth | Fisker, have you ordered your https://www.google.com/get/cardboard/ |
| 12:56.48 | Fisker | I have one |
| 12:56.52 | Kalroth | oh |
| 12:56.55 | Kalroth | is it any good |
| 12:57.29 | Fisker | Sure |
| 13:02.04 | Kalroth | oh |
| 13:09.29 | znf | Am I the only one sensing the irony here? |
| 13:09.30 | znf | http://www.nwradu.ro/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/renault_zoe_02.jpg |
| 13:09.45 | znf | Renault Zoe, "zero emissions", 100% electric car; yet we demo the car and charge it with a diesel generator? |
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| 13:29.54 | Gnarfoz | the car still has zero emissions of its own, but clearly, any electric car has to ultimately get its energy from somewhere |
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| 13:30.15 | Gnarfoz | in most cases, that's probably not as green as you'd like ^^ |
| 13:30.19 | Gnarfoz | ...for now |
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| 14:26.26 | karl_w_w | cities skylines patch is out |
| 14:26.26 | karl_w_w | https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/content-update-1-1-0-is-live-on-retail.856707/ |
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| 14:26.26 | sb | ctrl+f -> "traffic" - no results :| |
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| 14:26.29 | karl_w_w | what would there need to be about traffic |
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| 14:30.33 | sb | now blowing up for me :| |
| 14:32.50 | karl_w_w | exploding traffic? yeah that would be pretty cool |
| 14:34.06 | Industrial | With power comes responsibility. With responsibility comes more meetings. Don't forget to put the cover memo on the TPS reports. |
| 14:34.26 | Industrial | Also, hi. |
| 14:40.45 | Amarande | Industrial: the staples! the staples! |
| 14:40.51 | Amarande | you need to use staples on TPS reports! (and ONLY on TPS reports!) |
| 14:41.27 | Amarande | hah, traffic often makes me wish certain aspects of WoW physics worked in the real world |
| 14:41.43 | Amarande | as in, both teleportation *and* the fact that people and mounts in WoW aren't solid :) |
| 14:42.05 | Amarande | wait, I need to say "people, gnomes, and mounts" |
| 14:42.10 | Amarande | gnomes don't count as people, after all :) |
| 14:48.18 | Industrial | they may count as mounts? |
| 14:48.32 | Industrial | or footballs |
| 14:48.33 | Industrial | :D |
| 14:50.24 | Amarande | :D |
| 14:54.25 | karl_w_w | oh boy, this map I just started on has no water flow |
| 15:17.21 | Industrial | comBUStion? |
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| 15:25.39 | VIad | checking it out now, karl_w_w |
| 15:26.32 | VIad | won't ever pass the workshop greenlight moderation sadly :P |
| 15:49.22 | nevcairiel | of course not, copy right et al |
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| 15:53.09 | Amarande | don't shade your eyes, just plagiarise! :D (but remember to always call it research!) |
| 15:53.13 | Amarande | ahhh, good ol' Tom Lehrer |
| 15:53.16 | Amarande | just as relevant now as ever |
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| 16:16.15 | Ackis | I'm disappointed |
| 16:16.30 | Ackis | I played 3ish hours of the Witcher 3 last night and I didn't get to bang anyone |
| 16:17.05 | Amarande | Ackis: yeah from what I hear of the Witcher (I've got 1 and 2 on steam but haven't played them yet) that sounds odd |
| 16:17.17 | Amarande | wonder if it going so mainstream is causing it to get bowdlerised :( |
| 16:17.30 | Ackis | dunno =/ |
| 16:17.41 | Ackis | my standard for playing games like that is to "BANG ALL THE PEOPLE" |
| 16:25.03 | pompy | :O |
| 16:25.18 | Ackis | it's why I try to make NPC chars named Torhal and pompy |
| 16:26.21 | pompy | ! |
| 16:34.25 | Amarande | Ackis: so, how many times has Torhal died of dysentery? :) |
| 16:35.19 | Ackis | none - usually it's anal bleeding |
| 16:35.22 | Ackis | *snickers* |
| 16:35.29 | Ackis | he's gonna have fun when he reads that one |
| 16:48.13 | pompy | https://twitter.com/j_smedley/status/600367466200477696 lols |
| 16:49.28 | Amarande | and someone actually asks if they're account bans or IP bans |
| 16:49.32 | Amarande | everything's account bans these days :P |
| 16:49.46 | Amarande | IP bans are becoming practically unviable, and will remain so until IPv6 becomes standard on the internet |
| 16:49.52 | Torhal | defenestrates Ackis after igniting him. |
| 16:49.56 | Amarande | (at which point we'll probably start seeing them be standard again, I suppose) |
| 16:50.51 | Amarande | newegg, this is a friggin VGA cable and audio minijack stereo cable |
| 16:51.01 | Amarande | the heck did it need to be in a giant box with giant-bubble padding for? LOL |
| 16:51.14 | nevcairiel | IPv6 has privacy extensions which make IP-based bans totally pointless, unless you know their subnet and just ban that entire thing, but it could/would hit anyone using that connection, not just one person |
| 16:51.49 | Ressy | Aww.. Should I feel special Ackis that you haven't added me to the list of NPCs to maim? |
| 16:51.54 | Amarande | nevcairiel: ah, I presumed that because IPv6 pretty much entails an actual usable one to one connection between a machine and an address, IP bans would be entirely pointful |
| 16:52.03 | Ackis | Ressy: it's cuz you're female |
| 16:52.16 | Ressy | no female NPCs? |
| 16:52.31 | Amarande | just wildcard ban all IPs that end with the MAC of the offender's PC, and unless he knows how to spoof MACs he'll have to buy a new NIC or computer to play again ... that's a pretty big deterrent |
| 16:52.31 | nevcairiel | IPv6 privacy extensions ensure that you don't keep the same v6 address all the time, to avoid tracking |
| 16:52.58 | phelps | would you care if a host gave you a /80 over a /64 ? |
| 16:53.26 | nevcairiel | yes, that destroy stateless autoconfiguration |
| 16:53.30 | nevcairiel | +s |
| 16:53.41 | phelps | hetzner only gives 1 /64 :| |
| 16:53.42 | Amarande | I'm surprised /64 is even standard, you'd think /72 or even /76 would be |
| 16:53.48 | phelps | so I can only assign /80's to my VMs |
| 16:53.51 | nevcairiel | there is a reason /64 is the standard |
| 16:53.58 | nevcairiel | well |
| 16:54.07 | nevcairiel | technically /64 is the smallest subnet you should ever use |
| 16:54.09 | Amarande | after all, who (unless you're a service provider) needs more than 16 or 256 subnets :) |
| 16:54.15 | nevcairiel | many ISPs assign bigger subnets, like /56 |
| 16:54.32 | phelps | I need a /56 so I can give /64's |
| 16:54.36 | Amarande | (I'm trying to extend IPv4 logic to IPv6 and that probably doesn't actually work does it?) |
| 16:54.49 | Torhal | Ressy: Ackis only wants to bang guys, apparently. |
| 16:54.50 | phelps | idk Amarande, its how I use it |
| 16:54.54 | Ressy | snickers |
| 16:54.59 | Amarande | since I'm basically thinking, okay /80 is baseline, since the last 48 are supposed to be the MAC |
| 16:55.01 | phelps | I have a trillion IPv6 addresses and only use 2 of them |
| 16:55.13 | Ressy | I think Ackis might need to have a special talk with his wife then. |
| 16:55.15 | nevcairiel | various IPv6 techs rely on a subnet not being smaller than a /64, so something may blow up if you do that |
| 16:55.23 | Amarande | so /64 is practically giving someone a chunk larger than the whole IPv4 internet :) |
| 16:55.43 | phelps | its comical when you really think about it |
| 16:56.06 | phelps | a friend an I did the math one day for fun, there are more IPv6 addresses than atoms in the world |
| 16:56.19 | phelps | you could assign each atom an IPv6 address and you wouldn't run out |
| 16:56.48 | Amarande | probably more than atoms on every planet in the solar system |
| 16:56.52 | Amarande | unless I'm miscalculating there |
| 16:57.00 | phelps | no, you're right |
| 16:57.02 | Torhal | I remember around '99 everyone was freaking out that we'd soon be out of IPv4 addresses. Now that it's actually happening, people are basically shrugging and saying "Someone will figure something out." |
| 16:57.04 | Torhal | headdesks. |
| 16:57.11 | phelps | earth hardly touches the address space |
| 16:57.13 | Amarande | (keeping in mind that the vast majority of the atoms in the solar system are in the sun) |
| 16:57.24 | phelps | space |
| 16:57.25 | phelps | heh |
| 16:58.01 | Amarande | Torhal: and all we've really seen so far at the consumer level is half hearted attempts by ISPs to roll out 6rd |
| 16:58.03 | phelps | we even tried to find out what subnet you'd need to address a single persons atoms but I've forggoten now |
| 16:58.49 | phelps | wolfram alpha actually might be able to do that from plain english, brb |
| 16:58.50 | Amarande | which a lot of us don't even dare use because there's no firewall security on a lot of consumer tier routers for ipv6, even if they have full-monty networking support for ipv6 (which a fair number actually do) |
| 16:59.40 | Amarande | I guess they figure "people can just use nat" :( |
| 16:59.56 | Amarande | of course, on the flipside, given how many people rely on NAT as security ... |
| 17:00.11 | Ressy | Amarande: My ISP is doing ipv6 for DSL users who opt in. Its not possible yet on cable, but Bell's got things set up for ipv6, so Teksavvy can do ipv6 on dsl. |
| 17:00.12 | nevcairiel | in any case, the reason that /64 is the smallest subnet is that stateless auto-configuration uses the EUI-64 for identification, which is a 64-bit number (as the name suggests), its a slightly extended form of the old MAC |
| 17:00.31 | Amarande | (and sadly, not always by choice I imagine, because I wouldn't be surprised if quite a lot of device makers assume their stuff will be behind a NAT and thus don't give much thought to the security implications if they're exposed to the internet ...) |
| 17:00.39 | nevcairiel | and my router blocks incoming v6 traffic just fine :d |
| 17:01.18 | Ackis | :P |
| 17:01.25 | Amarande | Ressy: pity DSL is basically already obsolete though :( |
| 17:01.31 | Ressy | o.O |
| 17:01.36 | Ressy | Says who? |
| 17:01.44 | Amarande | Ressy: at least by the new US FCC standards, now something like 20-25 Mbps is considered minimum to be officially "broadband" |
| 17:01.47 | Amarande | up from the old spec of 4 Mbps |
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| 17:01.53 | Ressy | Can get 50/10 easily on vdsl2 here. |
| 17:02.03 | Amarande | which basically means only cable, FiOS, LTE, and enterprise connections in most cases |
| 17:02.09 | Ressy | o.O |
| 17:02.10 | Amarande | ah, Canada's got better DSL than us (why am I not surprised heh) |
| 17:02.19 | Ressy | Thats what wholesale will do. |
| 17:02.30 | Ressy | Our highest cable speed was 10mbps. |
| 17:02.33 | Ressy | and dsl was 6mbps |
| 17:02.37 | Ressy | til wholesale. |
| 17:02.37 | Amarande | I wonder why Wheeler bumped it up ... maybe to help net neutrality go down corporate throats easier? heh |
| 17:02.46 | Ressy | Now its 50/10 on vdsl2, 250/20 on cable |
| 17:03.06 | Ressy | not counting fiber.. which is varied, but not required to be provided to wholesalers |
| 17:03.12 | Amarande | since pretty much it means in exchange for net neutrality here in the States, now most ISPs really do have a monopoly, because their usual competitor was DSL which "doesn't count" anymore in most towns |
| 17:03.32 | nevcairiel | we have 100/40 on VDSL2 and 100/12 or so on cable, not sure if cable has any better offers in some areas |
| 17:03.48 | Ressy | Funny: I live 1 km away from my work. At my building at home, I can get 50/10 on vdsl2 due to the dslam in the basement. |
| 17:03.54 | Amarande | AT&T Uverse for instance only gives 45Mbps down *tops* |
| 17:04.00 | Amarande | and that's assuming you live in an area with optimal DSL performance, ofc |
| 17:04.06 | Ressy | Here at work.. fed from same CO, no dslam. 6/.8 max |
| 17:04.20 | Amarande | their standard advertised packages on the main internet service shopping page are 3Mbps and 6Mbps ROFL |
| 17:04.30 | nevcairiel | VDSL relies heavily on being close to the DSLAM .. i could throw a stone at it from my window |
| 17:04.52 | phelps | I couldn't even get DSL at my house, so only 1 option if you don't count satellite |
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| 17:05.06 | phelps | and satellite is $100+ for 10/5 with a 5GB cap |
| 17:05.11 | phelps | yes really, 5GB cap |
| 17:05.26 | Amarande | yeah, which basically means that in most areas it's either cable or LTE cell |
| 17:05.34 | Amarande | and for LTE cell the caps are too small for high speeds to be useful, and can even make high speeds detrimental |
| 17:05.39 | phelps | no LTE there either |
| 17:05.41 | Ressy | nevcairiel: A bunch of us are mapping vdsl2 cabinets.. Bell's using different onces. |
| 17:05.50 | phelps | you get something my phone calls -o- |
| 17:05.56 | Ressy | err, ones. 1 type which is great, 1 type which is totally screwed, and can't provide full speeds |
| 17:05.57 | phelps | O network |
| 17:06.03 | Amarande | heh I remember when AT&T rolled out 150 GB/month caps with overage charges for DSL, Netflix users were actually advising people to DOWNGRADE to the lowest tolerable speed |
| 17:06.25 | Amarande | (because netflix adjusts its picture quality based on bandwidth, so higher bandwidth basically means that it will devour your allowance that much faster ...) |
| 17:07.05 | phelps | my 100/25 has a 400GB cap |
| 17:07.09 | Amarande | otoh cable companies can be even worse, as oftentimes they still issue TOS disciplinaries instead of overages :| |
| 17:07.11 | phelps | I could use that in 12 hours |
| 17:07.21 | Amarande | using too much isn't something they welcome as "hey, we can charge more for their usage!" |
| 17:07.35 | Amarande | they consider it instead "YOU CAD YOU ARE INTERFERING WITH OUR OTHER CUSTOMERS CUT IT BACK NOW OR BE BANNED FOR SIX MONTHS" |
| 17:07.44 | phelps | Suddenlink has caps and honors the DMCAs from torrent crawlers |
| 17:07.58 | phelps | this is how I know I have no other internet options |
| 17:08.17 | phelps | I paid my neighbour for wifi for 6 months |
| 17:08.25 | Amarande | phelps: got banned? heh |
| 17:08.29 | phelps | yeah |
| 17:08.47 | Amarande | at first it seems odd that they'd do that, but I suspect I get another good reason why |
| 17:09.03 | Amarande | one, there's the whole they want you watching TV (and buying extra channels/PPV for more movies!) not using Netflix bit |
| 17:09.13 | Amarande | two, it's because of how it dovetails with cable company contracts |
| 17:09.24 | phelps | I didn't pay for TV and never have, never will |
| 17:09.29 | Amarande | see, if you get banned ... you automatically get your internet removed from the service package (they don't make you PAY for it while you're banned ofc) |
| 17:09.37 | Amarande | except, with the terms of triple play plans ... |
| 17:09.57 | phelps | hell, they even prorated a refund for the rest of the month |
| 17:10.01 | Amarande | that means you've ALSO just violated your triple play terms, which means they can hit you with the fee for that, as well as making up all the losses by jacking up your TV price because you no longer have a triple play discount :) |
| 17:10.10 | Amarande | which probably means they *love* banning people, heh |
| 17:10.23 | phelps | they just do it so they don't fight huge media in court |
| 17:10.32 | phelps | they can't afford it like say, comcast or tw can |
| 17:10.44 | Amarande | even comcast and charter have bans policies from what I've read |
| 17:10.54 | Amarande | (though comcast may have shifted to overages in some markets at least) |
| 17:11.13 | Amarande | not sure about time warner, wouldn't be surprised if they do |
| 17:11.22 | phelps | I've gotten around all that using a server + plex |
| 17:11.30 | Amarande | after all, time warner barely manages to provide cable connectivity to its customers as it is, let alone able to handle high usage :P |
| 17:12.06 | phelps | I'm happy I've got DOCSIS3 now |
| 17:12.07 | Amarande | I remember reading about the comcast/TWC merger proposal and people were all doom and gloom about duopolies |
| 17:12.21 | Amarande | meanwhile I was noting "well hey at least the TWC folks get a half decent cable company if that happens" LOL |
| 17:12.27 | Amarande | not that I've ever used TWC but they're pretty legendarily bad |
| 17:12.38 | Amarande | I think they invested too much into AOL instead of infrastructure :P |
| 17:12.45 | phelps | Suddenlink here used to be Cox |
| 17:12.50 | phelps | not sure why all that happened |
| 17:12.53 | Ressy | Our ISPs here relied on throttling. |
| 17:13.17 | Ressy | Once we got rid of that due to complaints to CRTC (Canada's version of FCC), they had no choice but to invest in infrastructure |
| 17:13.41 | Ressy | they went from $8 mil/yr in upgrades one year, to over 100 the next |
| 17:14.10 | Ressy | was hilarious seeing that on the balance sheets, knowing I helped cause it. >:) |
| 17:14.39 | Amarande | phelps, your cable company takes PLEX for payments? dang, maybe I should play EVE :) |
| 17:15.01 | Torhal | Amarande: Plex is a media streamer. |
| 17:17.08 | phelps | lol |
| 17:27.33 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
| 17:27.46 | Torhal | hey Fisker |
| 17:27.51 | Torhal | Will it Hot Pocket? |
| 17:28.21 | Fisker | nope |
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| 17:41.39 | d[karl]b | https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3055323 |
| 17:41.45 | d[karl]b | so much detail! |
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| 19:59.01 | g0urra | wow. that's one way to try impress the press. http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/001022.html |
| 20:02.22 | Mr_Rabies | influence* |
| 20:02.26 | Amarande | g0urra: the lake pictures make you think a morbol will show up any moment :) |
| 20:02.53 | Amarande | ugh morbols, they were what made me go from controller to keyboard/mouse ultimately |
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| 20:05.43 | g0urra | Mr_Rabies: thanks, went for impress in lack of a better word |
| 20:12.46 | Mr_Rabies | it actually makes me think less of square/enix, if that was possible :v |
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| 21:10.30 | Amarande | yay, VGA cable works |
| 21:10.39 | Amarande | now to let my eyes adjust to the old-skool analog look ... :) |
| 21:11.30 | Dagmar | If you can that easily see the difference, you really need to stop scavenging VGA cables from the bargain bin |
| 21:11.54 | Amarande | Dagmar: this resolution never behaved at all on HDMI, so there isn't really a reference point :S |
| 21:12.13 | Amarande | (though yeah, this is a bargain basement $4 cable from Newegg. heh) |
| 21:13.48 | Amarande | on HDMI, any attempt to get 1366x768 gave an off-centre image with the right hand scrollbar-sized bit of screen just plain *lost*, or else overscanned horridly |
| 21:13.56 | Amarande | apparently this TV only takes well to computer input through VGA |
| 21:14.30 | Simca | new DB2 in this build called CreatureDisplayInfoTrn |
| 21:15.07 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/1MzL08s.png guess away |
| 21:25.18 | Dagmar | Yeah that still baffles the crap out of me. I mainly think it's a configuration problem, but I've fed inputs of both types and only with a bad cable have I ever seen any signal loss over a VGA connection. |
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| 22:19.27 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:31.33 | Icicle | I have a little post it note I keep by my monitors that says "Always assume Human Error First" |
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| 22:31.49 | nevcairiel | but whos? foxlit's or the users? |
| 22:31.49 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:31.58 | Icicle | clever reply, +1 |
| 22:32.12 | Icicle | obviously the users ;) |
| 22:32.15 | Icicle | never foxlit |
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| 22:33.56 | Icicle | been awhile since I used Master-Plan, but I dont know this redudant list feature |
| 22:34.03 | Icicle | redundant* |
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| 22:36.07 | WrathTECH | Nice, I figured this would happen. Was going to make a WoW token sync price graph... seems a couple people have done that already. |
| 22:36.28 | nevcairiel | weeks ago |
| 22:36.57 | WrathTECH | lol. I haven't looked on any addon sites for close to a month. Been busy programming my own. |
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| 22:57.59 | Kowh | The redundant list is nice. Used it to prune my list way too many times. The cap of 20(25) followers is silly (you're already capped by available missions) and requires needless maintenance of your follower list every time you pick up another one. |
| 23:00.21 | Kowh | https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/pronunciation/american-english/parmesan-cheese <-- Well, that's certainly a distinctive way to pronounce Parmesan. |
| 23:01.05 | Icicle | looking at the guy who reported the features UI... dudes got other problems than Redundant followers |
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