| 00:00.11 | kullervo | someone in the group had 45d earlier before we opted to realmhop a bit |
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| 00:17.37 | Amarande | kullervo: wow |
| 00:17.59 | Amarande | That seals it, I don't think I've ever seen anything in WoW be as thoroughly rejected by the playerbase than Ashran :) |
| 00:18.20 | Amarande | not even Tol Barad and its broken "defender can pretty much win 100% of the time" design |
| 00:18.24 | Amarande | not even Oculus |
| 00:18.33 | Amarande | not even heroic Shattered Halls |
| 00:18.43 | Amarande | not even Alterac Valley during the "Alliance boycott" stage in late BC |
| 00:18.51 | Amarande | hell, not even level 60 dungeons post BC |
| 00:19.46 | Amarande | what was Blizzard thinking with Ashran anyway, heh |
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| 02:00.00 | kd3 | whee |
| 02:03.03 | Semlar | foxlit: how do you handle the fact that deleting and recreating the macro removes it from their bar |
| 02:04.04 | Semlar | i guess you could fill every macro slot rather than delete anything |
| 02:04.24 | Semlar | and just change what their button does on a per-character basis |
| 02:06.32 | Semlar | although when they disable your addon they're left with 120 placeholder macros |
| 02:11.00 | Semlar | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/simple-macro/ what the heck |
| 02:11.59 | Torhal | Semlar: ? |
| 02:12.11 | Semlar | every time i start working on something someone else does it |
| 02:12.17 | Torhal | So do it better. |
| 02:12.23 | Torhal | I've done that on occasion. |
| 02:12.32 | Semlar | well, it's just similar to what i've been thinking about |
| 02:12.36 | Torhal | And seriously WTF, 15 hours ago? |
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| 02:15.29 | pompy | whats wrong with 15 hours ago? |
| 02:15.39 | kd3 | it still exists? |
| 02:18.44 | Torhal | pompy: Semlar just started talking about writing something of its ilk earlier today. |
| 02:19.12 | Torhal | And lo and behold - 15 hours ago, such a project was created. |
| 02:19.23 | Semlar | see, i'm like a reverse psychic |
| 02:20.06 | Semlar | except i've been trying to figure out how to do what i want without using the macro system for a while |
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| 03:03.47 | znf | Does anyoen have a server on hetzner? |
| 03:04.42 | znf | Or, if you have a VPS/Dedicated Server, can you traceroute 43.243.108.70 ? |
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| 03:17.50 | Amarande | Hetzner seems to be in rather low repute nowadays ... I wouldn't rent a server there |
| 03:18.09 | Amarande | check the blog entry on http://www.efnet.org/ towards the bottom :S |
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| 03:41.53 | phelps | Amarande, idk |
| 03:41.59 | phelps | my hetzner box is fine |
| 03:43.33 | phelps | znf, I have 2 dedis |
| 03:43.46 | phelps | they're both missing some hops |
| 03:43.56 | phelps | one resolves, one doesn't |
| 03:44.57 | phelps | znf, https://gist.github.com/benphelps/afcb3ec8ff1d09192f2a |
| 03:45.13 | phelps | file names are the DC the nodes are in |
| 04:17.18 | karl_w_w | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3077507/Everything-think-know-diets-wrong.html |
| 04:19.13 | Shirik | uhhh |
| 04:19.29 | Shirik | your first problem was reading the daily mail |
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| 04:33.05 | Amarande | I thought at first you guys might be affected by the DNSChanger blocks, but that's Hostinger, not Hetzner |
| 04:33.58 | Shirik | I'll just leave this here for all you 3D/C# people https://jobs-insitu.icims.com/jobs/2490/software-engineer-3---.net-developer/job |
| 04:36.58 | karl_w_w | that's what I thought Shirik but this article seems to be good |
| 04:37.46 | Shirik | I can write you a good-looking article about how someone has cured cancer. Would you like that? |
| 04:38.23 | Shirik | the article was good for the first paragraph, and then it instantly jumped into the "let's start talking about things that haven't been the subject of studies" and "buy my book!" |
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| 04:45.07 | Mr_Rabies | modern_journalism.txt |
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| 05:08.07 | Shirik | youtube just blew my mind |
| 05:08.17 | Shirik | it showed me an ad where I didn't realize I was watching an ad until the end |
| 05:14.02 | phelps | Amarande, i lied a little bit |
| 05:14.15 | phelps | one of my hetzner server bidding boxes has awful IO |
| 05:14.34 | phelps | in RAID 0 it gets 30MB/s |
| 05:14.43 | phelps | and on another box with the same CPU, 300MB/s |
| 05:15.19 | phelps | really bad consumer grade disks |
| 05:15.28 | phelps | vs. awesome server grade ones |
| 05:16.14 | plaw | uh that looked like a real wow gold token 30 day free spam email from blizz. someone's getting desperate |
| 05:17.26 | phelps | I had to get an email just for WoW, either sites get hacked or they sell the email list, but my other email got spam |
| 05:17.46 | phelps | and theres only one way they knew about my email and wow |
| 05:18.20 | phelps | im happy that the wow only email has only gotten emails from blizzard |
| 05:18.44 | Fisker | tired |
| 05:18.49 | Fisker | smash |
| 05:18.59 | Fisker | also hug Cairenn |
| 05:19.08 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
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| 05:22.21 | bluspacecow | ~wowalert |
| 05:22.21 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 05:22.24 | bluspacecow | ~d3alert |
| 05:22.24 | purl | http://us.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-us (US) or http://eu.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-gb (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 05:22.28 | bluspacecow | ~Fiskeralert |
| 05:22.31 | Arrowmaster | http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/04/23/when-i-have-to-explain-the-different-jobs-in-it/ |
| 05:22.32 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 05:26.37 | phelps | full stack developer :( |
| 05:26.48 | phelps | thats what I call myself, its true |
| 05:27.30 | Dagmar | I finally just added those words to my resume |
| 05:27.57 | Dagmar | I got tired of dealing with web and database people who it turned out knew less about WTF they were doing than I did. |
| 05:29.00 | Dagmar | When i'm the guy who spends 5 minutes googling a stack trace only to tell the developer "You need to supply a keyring to make an SSL connection" and they're supposed to know what they're doing, something is deeply wrong. |
| 05:29.04 | WrathTECH | Anybody else playing D3, seemingly getting really good rng for once? |
| 05:30.50 | bluspacecow | nope |
| 05:31.01 | bluspacecow | reading my work email⦠WTF is an Email Meeting ? |
| 05:31.04 | WrathTECH | Oh and btw, sorry if i've been a bit grumpy lately. been a pretty shitty week. |
| 05:31.25 | bluspacecow | weâll be sure to defenstrate you later. |
| 05:31.29 | bluspacecow | *evil grin* |
| 05:31.32 | phelps | bluspacecow, daily video standup meetings at 7am |
| 05:31.40 | bluspacecow | wat |
| 05:31.44 | phelps | I'll take email meetings over that |
| 05:32.08 | bluspacecow | âmorning!â âplease excuse the morning boner Im still in bedâ |
| 05:32.20 | phelps | I actually quit that job and they haven't found another dev |
| 05:32.30 | phelps | http://insidegood.com/ |
| 05:32.38 | bluspacecow | anyone ½ competent or anyone at all ? |
| 05:32.51 | phelps | not fun people to work with, and they only paid $15/hr |
| 05:33.00 | bluspacecow | they sound like a porn site |
| 05:33.06 | phelps | lol |
| 05:33.16 | phelps | never thought about that before |
| 05:33.17 | Dagmar | $15/hour? Fuck that |
| 05:33.36 | bluspacecow | hmmmm |
| 05:33.39 | phelps | Dagmar, then they had the nuts to ask for me to take less, after I moved to their fucking city |
| 05:33.40 | bluspacecow | $15 USD ? |
| 05:33.50 | phelps | yeah, $15 USD |
| 05:33.56 | bluspacecow | wat.com |
| 05:34.11 | phelps | movied to CO to work with them, moved back 3 months later |
| 05:34.17 | Dagmar | You can make that delivering pizzas in a good neighborhood |
| 05:34.51 | phelps | they paid it all to their designer, from my understanding, he was getting close to $50/hr |
| 05:34.56 | phelps | and I spliced the fucking PSDs |
| 05:35.28 | phelps | oh man, im getting angry just thinking about it |
| 05:35.40 | phelps | agile development sure does waste a lot of damn time |
| 05:36.12 | phelps | I spent more time inside Pivotal Tracker than I did writing code |
| 05:36.36 | phelps | they wanted ME to write the scope of works as well |
| 05:36.47 | phelps | its not my project, why would I write the scope of work |
| 05:37.07 | Dagmar | Tell me... in your scrum meetings or whatever, how many people were actually involved in developing code? |
| 05:37.16 | phelps | < |
| 05:37.24 | Dagmar | Yeah, that was a bullshit job |
| 05:37.26 | phelps | yep |
| 05:37.41 | phelps | meetings, so just me and the 2 "founders" |
| 05:37.56 | Dagmar | Those meetings are for actual developers to keep in sync, but I frequently see the process abused as a way for middle-managers to waste a bunch of fucking time micro-managing coders |
| 05:38.00 | phelps | husband/wife |
| 05:38.15 | phelps | thats EXACTLY what it was |
| 05:38.29 | phelps | I spent more time talking and writing about what I was going to do or had done, than actually doing it |
| 05:38.40 | Dagmar | Agile is _worthless_ (and often downright counter-productive) unless there are multiple teams of people actually doing work |
| 05:38.50 | phelps | at least they paid me for the wasted time, i still disliked wasting time |
| 05:39.26 | phelps | I could have done what took a week in about 5 hours |
| 05:39.54 | phelps | but the whole agile shit and meetings and standups and reports and flow charts |
| 05:40.25 | bluspacecow | hmmm\ |
| 05:40.28 | bluspacecow | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/acp |
| 05:40.34 | bluspacecow | MIT License - what means ? |
| 05:41.54 | phelps | "Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions: |
| 05:41.54 | phelps | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:42.11 | bluspacecow | wiki says it not copyleft |
| 05:42.26 | bluspacecow | does that mean wow matrix can upload it to their servers with no breach of the license ? |
| 05:42.32 | Dagmar | I prefer the Bastard Public Licence, personally |
| 05:42.55 | phelps | WTFPL is my fav |
| 05:43.05 | phelps | unless I have good reason to think someone might try to sell it |
| 05:43.22 | phelps | http://www.wtfpl.net/ |
| 05:44.02 | phelps | bluspacecow, yeah, they can upload and share it |
| 05:44.10 | phelps | as long as the MIT license file is with it |
| 05:44.16 | bluspacecow | but it says âNoâ to Copyleft |
| 05:44.26 | bluspacecow | they can still do it ? |
| 05:44.49 | phelps | "publish, distribute" |
| 05:44.56 | phelps | it grants permission to do so |
| 05:45.23 | phelps | they could sell it if they wanted, and it'd still be ok |
| 05:45.52 | phelps | as long as the license is kept with it, haha |
| 05:46.09 | phelps | MIT License pretty much lets you do whatever you want as long as the license is left with it |
| 05:48.41 | phelps | does WoWMatrix take away from the curse profit share stuff |
| 05:48.47 | phelps | that'd piss me off if it did |
| 05:49.06 | phelps | I like getting Curse premium for free :D |
| 05:56.49 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17345875452?page=2#28 |
| 05:56.52 | bluspacecow | *giggle* |
| 05:57.14 | bluspacecow | anyone wanna go through https://www.wowmatrix.com/addons and see just how many donât have permission ? |
| 05:57.16 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 05:57.24 | bluspacecow | players can still upload addons |
| 05:57.29 | bluspacecow | WTF.jpg |
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| 06:10.26 | WrathTECH | -Dozes off, gets attacked, gets a heartattack |
| 06:14.38 | bluspacecow | http://nerdist.com/a-homemade-tardis-console-room-because-why-not/ |
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| 06:21.11 | Kowh | MIT doesn't count as copyleft because it's *less restrictive*. Doesn't force people to share the code in turn. |
| 06:24.38 | Kowh | Main difference on the ground is with commercial re-use. Use GPL if you think companies won't turn around and share their improvements without being forced, MIT if you want to leave it up them whether or not they contribute patches. |
| 06:25.35 | Kowh | For addons though, not sure it makes any difference |
| 06:26.14 | Kowh | Derivative commercial works are already a non-issue due to the game being all rights reserved. |
| 06:26.54 | bluspacecow | but addons arenât deritive works. |
| 06:27.09 | Kowh | No, I'm talking about the environment in which they operate. |
| 06:27.17 | bluspacecow | ah |
| 06:27.19 | Kowh | They're useless by themselves |
| 06:27.45 | Kowh | And no one is going to resell WoW + addons without getting sued into oblivion |
| 06:28.31 | Kowh | Someone could try to sell addons, but is likely just trying to rip you off, and thus unlikely to make any useful code changes. |
| 06:29.21 | Kowh | And I don't recall, but I think Blizz prohibits selling addons? |
| 06:29.45 | Kowh | In which case there wouldn't be any legit commercial derivatives anyways. |
| 06:31.40 | Kowh | For general programming I prefer MIT, increases the ease of adoption and becomes a sort of submarine patch source. |
| 06:32.49 | Kowh | If you're a programmer thinking of using and improving a library or something and it's GPL, any code would have to be published, which means you generally have to run it by legal and such and they often say no, not worth the hassle. |
| 06:33.17 | Kowh | Nothing against people who like GPL, it's just more of a principled stand. |
| 06:33.20 | WrathTECH | Yes, Blizard no longer let you pay for addons, the big debate was ove Carbonite, |
| 06:33.55 | Kowh | MIT means they can just start using it, and then later when they've been using it for awhile they start to feel a little guilty and feel like contributing something back, you get patches. |
| 06:34.38 | Kowh | So the per-user patch rate goes down, but the usage is likely more widespread so I feel you're more likely to get patches overall. |
| 06:36.04 | WrathTECH | DO they even allow you to obfuscate your addon programming now? Incase you prorammed something bad that might effect their gamelay? |
| 06:36.22 | Kowh | I don't think so. |
| 06:36.26 | Mr_Rabies | nope, obfuscated code isn't allowed |
| 06:36.28 | WrathTECH | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:36.29 | Mr_Rabies | as far as i understand |
| 06:36.41 | Mr_Rabies | that was done at the same time as putting the kibosh on paid addons iirc |
| 06:36.54 | WrathTECH | I know Carbonite did, why the got away with actually "Selling" their product |
| 06:37.16 | Kowh | Lots of opensource licenses out there, but mostly they are variations on the MIT/BSD style license and the GPL style license. |
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| 06:38.38 | WrathTECH | That is for sure. i've used Creative COmmons a lot with random projects. |
| 06:39.17 | Kowh | CC is more for non-code stuff like art. |
| 06:39.28 | Kowh | It was born out of making a copyleft style license for photos and such |
| 06:39.40 | WrathTECH | Very true, but when you thinkink about it, there is a lot of graphics design in addon programming |
| 06:40.03 | Mr_Rabies | it was basically just like "Dear Carbonite, http://media.tumblr.com/0220b755cafd529277974f91e623e0b0/tumblr_inline_mvnrw7LOOa1qig1e2.gif " |
| 06:40.05 | WrathTECH | Not hardcore or anything, but you def need a bit of knowledge |
| 06:40.14 | Kowh | CC has gotten popular enough it's come full circle and they've been trying to make it more code friendly |
| 06:40.20 | WrathTECH | Mr_Rabies! LOl |
| 06:40.58 | Mr_Rabies | he's saying "not in my house" just to make it even better |
| 06:43.20 | WrathTECH | Then out of curiosity, what licensing do most people use for WoW addons? |
| 06:45.09 | Kowh | http://choosealicense.com/licenses/ |
| 06:45.17 | bluspacecow | LOL https://www.wowmatrix.com/addon-authors |
| 06:45.24 | Kowh | All Rights Reserved is the default, so probably that. |
| 06:45.24 | bluspacecow | âAuthor Login Areaâ |
| 06:45.28 | bluspacecow | you should of had that. |
| 06:45.34 | bluspacecow | back in 2007 |
| 06:45.41 | bluspacecow | 8 freaking years ago assholes |
| 06:45.52 | WrathTECH | lol |
| 06:46.00 | WrathTECH | Thank you for the link Blu |
| 06:46.39 | bluspacecow | iâm sorry but to quote phanx â You don't get to steal my car and drive it around town, then return it when I call the cops, then steal it again because you forgot which cars you'd already joyridden, then return it again when I call your mom, and then expect us to be friends.â |
| 06:46.42 | WrathTECH | Ty also, Kowj |
| 06:46.52 | WrathTECH | ffs.. meds kcking in : / |
| 06:47.08 | Kowh | With addons the biggest danger I think is abandonment, so any OS license is best. |
| 06:47.29 | Kowh | Make it so that people can fork it at will and keep it going |
| 06:47.44 | phelps | wowmatrix still has ads doesn't it ? |
| 06:47.45 | WrathTECH | I just don't want people taking my idea that not saying who started the projects, |
| 06:48.02 | bluspacecow | they dont |
| 06:48.16 | WrathTECH | Why I never mentioned what my addon actually is. lol |
| 06:48.20 | bluspacecow | they has links up the top but they arenât OMG DOWNLOAD THIS GUIDE MEOW |
| 06:48.23 | phelps | does it still place its files everywhere ? |
| 06:48.26 | Kowh | Any of the OS licenses still require attribution |
| 06:48.32 | bluspacecow | define everywhere |
| 06:48.38 | bluspacecow | I have it running now |
| 06:48.41 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 06:48.41 | phelps | in ever addon folder |
| 06:48.48 | phelps | matrix related files |
| 06:48.52 | bluspacecow | after updating it prompts you to donate to your favourite addons |
| 06:48.57 | WrathTECH | Eh. i've been dealing a lot with Paronia lately. Doc thinks its Schizophreniea |
| 06:49.10 | phelps | some bad weed |
| 06:49.28 | bluspacecow | WowMatrix.dat in every addon folder |
| 06:49.40 | phelps | yeah, can't do that |
| 06:49.45 | WrathTECH | It tasted good tho, Phelps xD |
| 06:49.56 | WrathTECH | Doesnt Curse do that also? |
| 06:50.02 | phelps | nah |
| 06:50.27 | WrathTECH | Must have removed it some time agao then. Used to have temp files from curseclient |
| 06:50.37 | Kowh | Curse is Windows style, central registry. Matrix sounds Mac style, stuff with each app. |
| 06:50.59 | WrathTECH | brb |
| 06:51.01 | phelps | DOT DS GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY ZIPS |
| 06:51.21 | bluspacecow | has a back end in ~/Library/Application Support/Acreon/WowMatrix |
| 06:51.26 | Kowh | That's just crappy zipping programs without default excludes. |
| 06:51.29 | bluspacecow | with Archives and stuff lol |
| 06:52.30 | phelps | Kowh, I don't know of an archiving program I'd use on OS X tbh |
| 06:52.32 | bluspacecow | and a wmweb.bundle and wmzip.bundle in libraries |
| 06:52.40 | phelps | The Unarchiver but it only uncompresses |
| 06:53.12 | bluspacecow | appears to be a âMach-O universal binary with 2 architectures: [i386: Mach-O i386 bundle] [ppc: Mach-O ppc bundle]â |
| 06:53.15 | bluspacecow | lol PPC |
| 06:53.36 | phelps | should drop that since wow doesn't run on ppc anymore |
| 06:53.55 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 06:54.03 | Kowh | Heh, I don't either. I'm a command line junkie. I just use the default unix ones. |
| 06:54.06 | bluspacecow | they still donât have any author tools tho |
| 06:54.10 | bluspacecow | no author login |
| 06:54.19 | bluspacecow | no way of uploading / managing builds |
| 06:54.22 | bluspacecow | no comments on addons |
| 06:54.27 | bluspacecow | no ticket system for bugs |
| 06:54.39 | bluspacecow | I expect weâll see those in the next |
| 06:54.48 | bluspacecow | 153 years |
| 06:59.46 | WrathTECH | Some one want to install and setup my 4 3TB raid array for me? |
| 07:00.56 | WrathTECH | I can't dcide if I just use raid0 for speed, or 1+0, or 5 : / |
| 07:25.32 | bluspacecow | Iâm looking for a bash command string |
| 07:25.47 | bluspacecow | I want to compare the contents of two folder trees |
| 07:26.10 | bluspacecow | but i want it to compare the sub folders too |
| 07:29.13 | bluspacecow | diff -rq works yet the man page doesnât have anything for -r or -q |
| 07:29.20 | bluspacecow | LOL Yosemite. U so crazy |
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| 08:01.09 | Gnarfoz | WrathTECH: go with raid 0, because you certainly don't need that and because you probably want to quadruple your chance of data loss \o/ |
| 08:05.01 | Gnarfoz | znf: https://haste.sbuehl.com/emicehehiturepododitabodovuxah.txt |
| 08:05.27 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: Your man pages suck. Mine list those, but I just type `diff -urN` out of long habit |
| 08:05.45 | phelps | aww Wrath |
| 08:05.54 | phelps | RAID0 for that SSD speed on normal HDDs |
| 08:07.53 | Dagmar | RAID 1+0 would be faster |
| 08:09.21 | Dagmar | One of my boxes is just loaded with various somewhat "abominative" RAID like that |
| 08:10.28 | Dagmar | I've got a couple of 1.5Gb drives striped, 4 250Gb drives in RAID 5, and four other drives in JBOD mode |
| 08:10.54 | Dagmar | Not a single fuckin' one hot-dwapapble either. :) |
| 08:10.56 | Gnarfoz | 2+2 raid 1+0 is unlikely to be faster than 4-disk raid 0 on the same disks |
| 08:10.58 | Gnarfoz | but... |
| 08:11.00 | Gnarfoz | well. |
| 08:11.08 | Gnarfoz | no sane person would do raid 0 there \o/ |
| 08:11.25 | Dagmar | One would hope |
| 08:11.35 | Gnarfoz | all hope is lost :( |
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| 09:42.39 | phelps | so what exactly do sites gain when they get gobbled up by curse |
| 09:42.48 | phelps | $$$ ? |
| 09:43.54 | Trela | Eh, "depends". |
| 09:44.19 | Trela | I know that Curse has bought some sites before because they would have died to hosting costs otherwise. |
