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| 00:30.12 | Amarande | hmm, has everyone already leveled their hunters to 100 or something? heh |
| 00:30.41 | Amarande | when I spot rare pets while leveling I usually put a call out in /1 to let hunters know (since I'm on a pally and can't tame them anyways), but I don't think I've seen anyone show up :S |
| 00:31.45 | bshelden | Don't they just ding 100 after the tutorial? |
| 00:31.56 | bshelden | Or am I imagining it to be faster than it was? |
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| 00:33.57 | Amarande | bshelden: hah |
| 00:34.02 | Amarande | it's not that quick, even now |
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| 00:34.16 | Amarande | actually, leveling seems to have been slowed down a bit compared to the last time I leveled a character |
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| 00:34.33 | bshelden | mmm? I didn't really feel that way, though my impression is completely tainted by heirlooms |
| 00:34.38 | bshelden | I haven't had to level 'raw' since WotLK |
| 00:34.55 | Amarande | I'm pretty much staying on level with the zones I'm leveling in so far, unlike the last time I leveled a character without armour heirlooms where I seemed to keep overleveling zones anyway |
| 00:35.11 | bshelden | I was doing two zones in three. |
| 00:35.22 | bshelden | And if I queued, I could just straight up skip them |
| 00:35.25 | Amarande | (I have a 2H sword loom but I don't have any plate looms to level pally or warrior with) |
| 00:35.37 | bshelden | Paladin in a full set of looms save the fishing ring |
| 00:36.10 | bshelden | Perhaps it would have slowed down sometime after 50. I stopped there as I was only leveling her to get my loremaster. |
| 00:36.18 | Amarande | I think the last time I got a couple levels ahead of things may have been Hillsbrad and then the fact that there's so little to do in Arathi evened it out |
| 00:36.51 | Amarande | I actually still haven't finished Loremaster, and if I do things on level, I'll actually need to level at least one more character to finish it heh |
| 00:37.08 | Amarande | (because the two zones I still need are both the same level range ... so each toon will only do one of them) |
| 00:37.18 | bshelden | Lets see... I was all over the place. Teldrassil, Darkshore, skipped Ashenvale. Stonetalon, cape of stranglethorn, feralas (I outleveled it before entering but needed it). |
| 00:37.34 | Amarande | Un'Goro and Swamp of Sorrows, specifically |
| 00:37.49 | bshelden | She was my "only three zones left" toon |
| 00:38.07 | Amarande | Heh, this pally may not even set foot in Kalimdor till almost 85 |
| 00:38.20 | Amarande | (wait, do you have to go back to Orgrimmar to trigger Vashj'ir ... might be 80, then) |
| 00:38.48 | Amarande | Speaking of leveling zones wonder if they ever fixed the broken Stonetalon progression for Alliance |
| 00:39.01 | Amarande | It suddenly broke in 5.1 for reasons unknown and that's the last time I looked |
| 00:39.14 | Amarande | as in, even though it is an upper 20s zone you could not progress the chain until 60 |
| 00:40.04 | bshelden | I was able to level through there, so I suspect so |
| 00:40.54 | Amarande | in 5.1, the problem was ... well ... what's the easiest way to put it |
| 00:41.07 | Amarande | there's this Horde siegey type vehicle in southern Ashenvale with a ginormous bomb on top of it |
| 00:41.26 | Amarande | the bomb is a quest giver, and without its quest, you cannot progress the chain properly (you will get the first few Stonetalon quests and then it will just peter out) |
| 00:41.56 | Amarande | however, in 5.1 (in 5.0 it was fine) they somehow changed the vehicle model so you could not climb up high enough to clicky on the bomb to start the quest anymore |
| 00:42.04 | Amarande | so you had to wait till 60 to access it |
| 00:45.51 | Amarande | wow some of these leveling 'upgrades' are even downgrades at times ... I'm guessing the stat squish upset the balance |
| 00:48.14 | bshelden | I had no problem talking to the bomb as I recall, so they must have fixed it at some point. |
| 00:50.41 | Amarande | ah, good. :) |
| 00:51.11 | bshelden | Of course, that was in 6.1. So they can easily break it again :P |
| 00:51.13 | Amarande | TBH, I'm still not entirely sure why they managed to break it in the first place, unless that Horde siege vehicle model is used somewhere else as well and the change was based on that other instance |
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| 00:53.20 | bshelden | That'd be my guess. They tweaked the generic 'bomb' model used somewhere and didn't realize it affected the thing in STM |
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| 01:12.27 | Thordurin | To all going for BlizzCon tickets..... |
| 01:12.28 | Thordurin | http://www.quickmeme.com/img/fb/fb0b2527c77639a084af136144dff6eab5d6b53f314198a1fb6283c263e06a31.jpg |
| 01:12.50 | Thordurin | hugs Cairenn |
| 01:13.05 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:13.12 | Cairenn | hugs Thordurin |
| 01:13.16 | Thordurin | hell, I am too |
| 01:13.29 | Thordurin | hi :D |
| 01:13.49 | Amarande | hmm, and apparently, leveling professions (other than maybe gathering for some quick cash) before 90 is not particularly useful now? |
| 01:17.28 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.28 | Amarande | Thordurin: yeah, I think if I ever go to BlizzCon I'll be doing it through the virtual ticket :) |
| 01:21.11 | Thordurin | virtual hugs with Cairenn are a poor substitute for the real thing |
| 01:21.16 | Thordurin | Trust me, I know |
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| 01:21.59 | Thordurin | I come here year round for hugs, but face-to-face is much better |
| 01:22.01 | Cairenn | :) |
| 01:22.23 | kd3 | looking forward to it, for my 8th time |
| 01:22.39 | Amarande | well, given my budget these days, I'd have to win the lottery twice to get to go, anyway |
| 01:22.47 | Amarande | once to afford to go, then once to actually manage to get to go, LOL |
| 01:23.01 | Thordurin | yeah, the only reason I get to go is my tax return |
| 01:23.20 | kd3 | tax refunds are interest free loans to the government |
| 01:23.35 | Amarande | plus next year's tax refund will be tiny and then I may never be seeing a tax refund again at all |
| 01:23.39 | Thordurin | we all pay it back somehow |
| 01:23.42 | Amarande | friggin "Affordable" Care Act |
| 01:23.50 | Amarande | I'm not entirely sure what it's meant to make affordable to who, frankly :| |
| 01:24.08 | kd3 | well, decent insurance for me, for one |
| 01:24.10 | kd3 | shrugs |
| 01:24.37 | Amarande | kd3: I'm guessing either you get it through work or your state has better plans than Connecticut does |
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| 01:24.54 | kd3 | nope. I'm a 1099 contractor. I get it from healthcare.gov |
| 01:25.15 | kd3 | georgia doesn't run it's own marketplace, so it's all federal for me |
| 01:25.17 | Amarande | The "plans" Connecticut's exchange offers seem to more or less be $2,500+ annual donations to the insurance kitty that give you basically nothing |
| 01:28.17 | Amarande | the cheapest plan is something like 225-230 bucks a month for a $6000 deductible (which means it basically doesn't insure you at all in any practical sense) |
| 01:28.45 | Thordurin | hated ACA since Day 1, I hope I never ever have to deal with it |
| 01:28.56 | Amarande | you do, when you do your tax return :( |
| 01:29.19 | Thordurin | well yeah, that was inevitable for everyone |
| 01:29.34 | kd3 | wow, conn is rough. after the subsidy I'm paying like $100/mo on a $500 deductible |
| 01:29.34 | Thordurin | with the political shift happening next year, maybe.... |
| 01:29.36 | kd3 | yay silver plans |
| 01:29.39 | Thordurin | who knows what'll happen |
| 01:29.53 | Amarande | And given where my income lands, I basically get to drop $225+ a month into the insurance kitty or just pay the tax penalty, guess which is cheaper :P |
| 01:30.01 | Amarande | kd3: part of the thing is I can't seem to get a subsidy |
| 01:30.08 | Dagmar | Tax penalty FTW! |
| 01:30.18 | kd3 | hell, even without the subsidy it's only like $250/mo anyway |
| 01:30.46 | Amarande | my income is so close to the Medicaid threshold that for some reason CT sees me as qualifying for HUSKY-D Medicaid even though when I get my W-2 I definitely don't |
| 01:30.47 | kd3 | cost of living is so cheap here. I'm going to miss that when I move to san fran |
| 01:31.03 | Amarande | which means it will not let me claim a subsidy, so I either take the tax penalty or pay full price :| |
| 01:31.06 | Thordurin | san fran ow |
| 01:31.34 | Thordurin | I couldnt live there |
| 01:31.38 | Thordurin | outside of there, syre |
| 01:31.40 | Thordurin | sure* |
| 01:31.41 | Amarande | And given how crap a bronze plan is, seeing that if you're reduced to getting a bronze plan you probably don't HAVE $6000 in cash to spare in a year for a medical bill anyway ... |
| 01:31.52 | Amarande | kd3: ouch San Fran, why would you put yourself through that torture |
| 01:32.03 | kd3 | ~5x the salary of what I'm getting now? |
| 01:32.04 | Dagmar | Becuase there's a lot of chicks there |
| 01:32.09 | Amarande | I've read some news articles about San Fran and it suggests that unless you're rich, it sucks |
| 01:32.12 | Thordurin | career opportunity? |
| 01:32.24 | kd3 | and I won't be living out in the boondocks where the only chicks are inbred |
| 01:32.32 | Thordurin | ! |
| 01:32.52 | Thunder_Child | Well, at least you can hang out with Iriel. |
| 01:32.54 | kd3 | though thankfully I'm not in bama or mississippi... |
| 01:33.08 | Ressy | snickers |
| 01:33.09 | Amarande | particularly the cost of housing is ridiculous, and according to some articles if the landlord wants to get rid of you they apparently can basically just turn the thumbscrews and jack your rent up to $10,000 a month until you give up and go :P |
| 01:33.18 | Ressy | Nothing wrong with the northern part of alabama. :P |
| 01:33.28 | Thordurin | for men? or women? |
| 01:33.43 | kd3 | all of bama is banjo country to those of us in georgia |
| 01:34.04 | kd3 | du-na-nah-na-nah-na-nah-na-naaaah |
| 01:34.09 | Xuerian | Ding-dingadinging-ding-dinga-dingding-ding-dingadingding-ding |
| 01:34.24 | kd3 | >.> |
| 01:34.43 | Xuerian | was making a Fluffier quote |
| 01:35.05 | Amarande | hell, even Jeffrey's Toys apparently got thrown out on the curb in favour of, according to the articles, an incoming restaurant, that's how bad SF is getting |
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| 01:35.32 | Xuerian | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbzcbk7pKco |
| 01:35.53 | Dagmar | "thrown out" is probably not a very apt phrase for that |
| 01:36.09 | Amarande | Dagmar: pretty much the landlord raised the rent to $40k a month |
| 01:36.21 | Dagmar | Hopefully the restaurant can manage to pull that in |
| 01:36.25 | Amarande | Dagmar: in SF, according to articles I'm reading about the city, that's the general way they make people pack up and go |
| 01:36.51 | Amarande | they use whatever exploits they can (if there's any rules to exploit holes in, anyway) in the rent rules to jack the rent up to unaffordable levels specifically to force a departure |
| 01:36.58 | Dagmar | Yeah, well... they can't demand 40k/month to get someone to leave and then _reduce_ it for the next tenants |
| 01:37.20 | Amarande | Then meanwhile you have this rich bastard on Disqus going on about how it's all just and such and that the rich deserve such power :| |
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| 01:37.36 | Dagmar | So find him and beat his face in |
| 01:38.19 | Amarande | Actually, I'm not sure how well the restaurant will do, because since these news articles came out about Jeffrey's there's apparently an increasing tide of hate against the landlord so people are wanting the next business there to fail epically just to teach the landlord a lesson |
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| 01:40.59 | kd3 | 19 minutes to blizzcon tickets round 1 |
| 01:41.14 | kd3 | I'm planning on getting 4, one's reserved already, 2 left |
| 01:41.15 | Dagmar | Holy shit |
| 01:41.28 | Dagmar | begins hastily nailing storm shutters over his internets |
| 01:42.13 | Amarande | kd3: good luck and may the odds be ever in your favour |
| 01:43.41 | Amarande | aaaanyway, let's put it this way, San Fran seems like it'd be a totally rad place to visit, but I'm not sure how anyone not in the 1% manages to afford to live even reasonably comfortably there :S |
| 01:44.08 | Amarande | pretty much the same feeling I get about Manhattan when I go there, heh ... great to visit, no way I could ever afford an apartment there though :P |
| 01:47.32 | pompy1 | "The default number of tickets is set to 1, not 0.........You have 8 minutes to complete the purchasing process." |
| 01:51.21 | Cairenn | offs - the page logged me out and no matter what I do it won't let me stay logged in now |
| 01:51.25 | Amarande | pompy1: hey, at least they're that kind |
| 01:51.42 | Amarande | I still remember the chaos that was getting a room for Dragon Con a few years ago |
| 01:51.57 | kd3 | ya, having the same issue cairenn |
| 01:52.08 | Amarande | Apparently, the Marriott/Passkey system did *NOT* hold ANYTHING in reserve until you finished entering all the details down to CC and all |
| 01:52.11 | Cairenn | growls, stupid page |
| 01:52.42 | Ressy | Cairenn, you apparently don't need to be logged in. |
| 01:52.47 | Amarande | People could literally, especially as things wound down later (in all 20 minutes it took to sell out) in the booking period, have rooms booked out from under them because someone else was faster with their typing |
| 01:53.01 | Cairenn | hmmm, well, we'll see, I guess |
| 01:54.24 | Seerah | if I press login, it takes me to the home page, all logged in. as soon as I go back to the blizzcon page it still says "login". so.... :) |
| 01:54.30 | Ressy | yup |
| 01:54.38 | kd3 | https://twitter.com/eventbritehelp/status/588520510054658048 |
| 01:54.41 | Thordurin | same here |
| 01:54.43 | Thordurin | dafuq |
| 01:54.47 | Cairenn | yup, here too |
| 01:55.02 | kd3 | it's happening to everyone. eventbrite says (^) that we're still logged in |
| 01:55.49 | Amarande | server couldn't handle the load, perhaps? |
| 01:56.28 | Amarande | come to think of it, that very same year that I booked for D*Con (at the Marriott), a couple weeks later when the Hyatt came up for bookings, it took several hours to sell out, largely because the Passkey server crashed under the weight of thousands of eager Con goers |
| 01:56.34 | Thordurin | Blizzcon is not in the search function either |
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| 01:56.56 | Ressy | http://blizz.ly/1MueS10 |
| 01:57.10 | Thordurin | yeah got tha tone |
| 01:57.17 | Thordurin | tried to get to it from main page |
| 01:57.17 | Dagmar | Keep in mind those are the people who decided it was a good idea to have customers "sign" their purchases by having them _draw_ their signatures with a mouse |
| 01:57.27 | Dagmar | A high-performance operation they are not. |
| 01:57.44 | Dagmar | I drew flowers, penises... even a dickbutt. |
| 01:57.59 | Dagmar | I kept *hoping* someone would ask me to verify my signature when I picked up my tickets. :) |
| 01:59.39 | Amarande | Dagmar: hah, do they think everyone's booking on mobile devices with touchscreens or something? :) |
| 02:00.14 | Dagmar | No, they're just not very smart. |
| 02:00.22 | Dagmar | That sort of thing is pure PHB bullshit. |
| 02:00.27 | pompy1 | lol |
| 02:00.31 | Dagmar | Sounds good to an idiot, _worthless_ in practice. |
| 02:00.34 | pompy1 | BS teh default quantity was 0 |
| 02:00.47 | Cairenn | and ... in line in the waiting room |
| 02:00.55 | Seerah | me, too :D |
| 02:00.57 | Ressy | same |
| 02:01.03 | kd3 | alright. 3 different browsers in the waiting room |
| 02:01.09 | Thordurin | me dso |
| 02:01.10 | Thordurin | dos |
| 02:01.19 | Amarande | Dagmar: hah, and never mind these computerised signatures never come out right anyway |
| 02:01.21 | pompy1 | https://twitter.com/eventbritehelp/status/463405291070320641 |
| 02:01.26 | pompy1 | they lied! |
| 02:01.31 | Amarande | like the ones you use at retail establishments with your credit card, it doesn't even resemble your signature :P |
| 02:01.58 | Seerah | pompy1: they did! it was set to 0 |
| 02:02.00 | Dagmar | Well, those can come close |
| 02:02.08 | Seerah | we're getting 4, just in case anyone needs one |
| 02:02.11 | Ressy | was set to 1 for me. o.O |
| 02:02.13 | Dagmar | A _mouse_, going through a _flash applet_ no less, standds just about zero chance |
| 02:02.21 | kd3 | was set to 0 on all of my browsers |
| 02:02.44 | g0urra | woo, I got the tix |
| 02:02.45 | Cairenn | I am trying for 4, because I know of at least one person in here who can't even try for it tonight due to work |
| 02:02.46 | Seerah | (I had to use the dropdown either way...) |
| 02:02.53 | Cairenn | g0urra: grats |
| 02:02.55 | g0urra | ty |
| 02:03.09 | pompy1 | nice i got the ticket too |
| 02:03.21 | Cairenn | god |
| 02:03.24 | Cairenn | good* |
| 02:03.33 | Seerah | I'm still in line, adn I thought I was pretty fast :/ |
| 02:03.44 | Cairenn | same =/ |
| 02:03.51 | Seerah | then again, it took forever for the waiting screen to load |
| 02:04.15 | |Jelly| | Yup |
| 02:04.45 | Cairenn | have a feeling I'm not going to be successful, since I'm still in the room =/ |
| 02:05.18 | |Jelly| | same |
| 02:05.22 | kd3 | me too |
| 02:05.25 | Amarande | Cairenn: know that feeling, that was one of the reasons I stopped going to Dragon Con |
| 02:05.37 | pompy1 | wallet was in the car.. pheww, had to run! :o |
| 02:05.37 | Seerah | I'm busy on Saturday, and Wayne isn't as fast as me :/ |
| 02:05.48 | Ressy | waiting room has started booting people |
| 02:06.11 | Amarande | besides it being too expensive, for 2013 the Marriott rooms opened at 9AM on a Wednesday ... which is a day I always work 9-somewhere between 3 and 4:30, and I don't have the ability to use the Internet for nonbusiness purposes during work :| |
| 02:06.31 | Seerah | damnit |
| 02:06.38 | Amarande | And seeing that they sell out in about 20 minutes, waiting for lunch wouldn't have worked either |
| 02:06.57 | Cairenn | well crap |
| 02:06.58 | Thordurin | GOT MINE W000000000000T |
| 02:07.07 | Cairenn | Thordurin: yay! |
| 02:07.13 | Seerah | I wonder if it's because I panicked and clicked submit 3-4 times because there was no indication that it took until I noticed the little spinny thing in the tab... |
| 02:07.44 | Ressy | congrats! |
| 02:07.48 | Dagmar | Incredible design. |
| 02:08.06 | Seerah | genius ;) |
| 02:08.08 | Dagmar | Didn't we figure out to block user interaction immediately following the submit button being pushed like... 10 years ago? |
| 02:08.19 | Dagmar | It's even a bloody part of jquery now |
| 02:08.35 | Cairenn | well, looks like i am trying again on Saturday |
| 02:09.16 | Seerah | grats to those that got some :) |
| 02:09.23 | Seerah | I'mma gonna go cry now |
| 02:09.31 | Cairenn | ditto |
| 02:09.54 | pompy1 | "You're going to BlizzCon® - November 6-7, 2015!" |
| 02:09.56 | g0urra | whistles and waves 2 tickets |
| 02:10.16 | kd3 | I'm still in the waiting room somehow |
| 02:10.24 | Seerah | kd3: lol |
| 02:10.26 | Cairenn | If anyone has extras, I know of at least one person who needs - Iriel |
| 02:10.34 | Amarande | Dagmar: heh, you'd think credit card companies would even get pissed at companies for stuff like that |
| 02:10.42 | Cairenn | hey, if you are, kd3, you may actually be getting in |
| 02:10.44 | Amarande | like, after they get 40 bazillion chargebacks due to double charges |
| 02:11.10 | Amarande | I suppose in the case of Blizzcon tickets you'd better just take your extra tickets if that happens ... I'd hate to think of what would happen to your Battle.net account if you chargebacked a Blizzard charge :P LOL |
| 02:12.01 | kd3 | if you got booted, refresh and try again |
| 02:12.03 | kd3 | it's showing tickets |
| 02:12.08 | Cairenn | ! |
| 02:12.12 | Ressy | which just tosses you into the waiting room again |
| 02:12.21 | Ressy | right? |
| 02:12.32 | kd3 | dunno, still waiting on a response from the server |
| 02:12.33 | kd3 | yup |
| 02:12.47 | Cairenn | not on my screen, kd3 |
| 02:13.17 | kd3 | seeing lots of tweets about it. did it in my fourth browser just now |
| 02:13.30 | Seerah | not on my screen either |
| 02:14.09 | g0urra | Seerah and Cairenn I've got 2 tickets probably |
| 02:14.22 | Cairenn | I actually had 3 show up again, only to be gone again |
| 02:14.33 | Cairenn | so spamming refresh |
| 02:14.47 | Amarande | Yeah, this sounds exactly like Dragon*Con rooms :P |
| 02:14.52 | Cairenn | g0urra: well, Seerah needs, and I know Iriel needs |
| 02:15.05 | Seerah | I need two, but I'll have hubby try on Saturday |
| 02:15.14 | g0urra | oh |
| 02:15.28 | Cairenn | do you not need both, g0urra? |
| 02:15.31 | kd3 | I'm going to try on Saturday too. just got booted from all of my queues |
| 02:15.33 | Amarande | Except there is no "trying again on Saturday" for Dragon*Con rooms, LOL |
| 02:15.45 | Cairenn | If not, there are definitely folks in here |
| 02:15.46 | g0urra | I bought 4 and I've got 2 spare |
| 02:15.51 | Cairenn | !! |
| 02:16.04 | Amarande | Hell, with the Marriott, you couldn't even hope for someone to cancel ... not unless you wanted to pay $350 a night or so |
| 02:18.03 | Amarande | Blizzard, you need a bigger hotel :) |
| 02:18.33 | Amarande | Heck, just rent out Yankee Stadium or something ... not like the Yankees will be using it by November :D |
| 02:18.45 | Amarande | Not that I can go to BlizzCon even if I got my hands on a ticket this year ... I have a wedding to be at that weekend |
| 02:18.45 | Xinhuan | i'm undecided if i want to go this year, heh |
| 02:18.56 | Thunder_Child | Actually, and outdoor blizzcon would be interesting. |
| 02:19.09 | Thunder_Child | an* |
| 02:19.16 | |Jelly| | I was just able to get one. One down, three to go. lol |
| 02:19.23 | Amarande | Hell, with luck, the Yankees won't be using Yankee Stadium by October, let alone November. |
| 02:19.28 | Amarande | (Why yes, can you tell I'm a Sox fan? :) |
| 02:21.01 | Amarande | (Also, if it was in New York, I would totally be able to go easily. Well, not this year, but normally. :) |
| 02:21.04 | Cairenn | aaaand now firefox has decided to hang on me |
| 02:21.27 | FireFox | hangs |
| 02:21.41 | Amarande | sadly, it seems like MMOs are virtually entirely a California thing ... I think the only major one that's based on the East Coast is LOTRO (and I suppose DDO since that's Turbine too) |
| 02:22.22 | Amarande | which is the other trouble come to think of it, any time I take a trip all the way out West it's awkward to plan the trip home |
| 02:22.53 | Xinhuan | Unavailable |
| 02:22.54 | Xinhuan | haha |
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| 02:23.57 | Amarande | I take the bus between NYC and Connecticut, the last bus home leaves at 8PM, and for a trip to Pacific time it's a 9 hour trip home counting time change |
| 02:24.37 | Amarande | think the last time I went out that far west I had to basically just accept I was going to be sitting sleepily in Port Authority for several hours |
| 02:31.53 | Dagmar | Well, at least you aren't flying United. |
| 02:31.57 | Fisker | hey Cairenn |
| 02:33.03 | Amarande | Yeah, I've heard United is pretty crap lately |
| 02:33.08 | Amarande | I usually fly either Southwest or Delta these days |
| 02:33.56 | Amarande | though most of the time alas it tends to degenerate to 'whatever airline is cheapest on Kayak' |
| 02:34.06 | Amarande | with how expensive airfares are now :( |
| 02:34.12 | Xinhuan | flown both - United seats are soooooooooo bad, especially if you're sitting in it for 22 hours |
| 02:34.47 | Amarande | Xinhuan: I think it depends more on the plane model than on the airline, actually |
| 02:35.05 | Xinhuan | there is only 1 or 2 plane models for international flights or something |
| 02:35.11 | Amarande | 757s seem more comfy than Airbuses which seem more comfy than most other Boeings |
| 02:35.12 | Xinhuan | so that is almost irrelevant |
| 02:35.21 | Amarande | and CRJ's are "fuck you" no matter what airline you're stuck flying in one on :P |
| 02:35.34 | Dagmar | Oh I don't worry about the planes so much as I worry about the _lying_ gate agents |
| 02:35.53 | Dagmar | I got sent from SFO back to BNA once, on the _last_ flight out, changing planes in IAD. |
| 02:36.02 | Dagmar | That gate agent got fired at least. |
| 02:36.13 | Xinhuan | what happened? |
| 02:36.23 | Dagmar | I spent the damn night in IAD. |
| 02:36.34 | Amarande | I forget, is that Dulles or Dallas? |
| 02:37.06 | Dagmar | ...because not only was the flight i was on predictably late getting to IAD, they'd cancelled the connecting flight |
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| 02:37.27 | Amarande | Mind you, I'm pretty sure I don't know what either of those is like ... if I remember right, every time I've got a layover in Washington it's always been DCA |
| 02:37.30 | Dagmar | You're absolutely forbidden to put someone on an itinerary with a change of planes stopover less than 20 minutes. |
| 02:37.37 | Dagmar | This itin had a layover of 15 minutes. |
| 02:37.42 | Amarande | OUCH |
| 02:37.51 | Amarande | that's ... literally impossible to make, even if you could teleport |
| 02:38.00 | Dagmar | So basically, that gate agent fucked me over deliberately. They knew it, I know it. |
| 02:38.00 | Amarande | because I'm pretty sure the rule is the doors have to close 15 minutes before departure ... |
| 02:38.20 | Ressy | I had a layover of 2 1/2 hrs once.. Turned into me running to the gate for the next flight, barely making it. |
| 02:38.25 | Dagmar | Hell I've done a 15 minute change of planes in DFW, but that's because I have no qualms about pretending to be OJ Simpson |
| 02:38.37 | Dagmar | Running indoors? Zero fucks given. |
| 02:38.39 | Amarande | I groan now when I see a layover that's any less than 45-50 minutes |
| 02:38.54 | Amarande | Because I'm going to break that time down pretty accurately as follows |
| 02:39.00 | Ressy | They let us off the original plane on the tarmac outside, and pointed us to the door to the terminal |
| 02:39.04 | Amarande | 15 minutes off the top because you must be at boarding 15 minutes before departure or you're out |
| 02:39.13 | Ressy | Ran from my feet hitting tarmac to the gate |
| 02:39.16 | Xinhuan | you could pick an alternative flight usually though? |
| 02:39.32 | Xinhuan | at booking time |
| 02:39.54 | Dagmar | If they mess you up by being late for your connecting flight, you'll get "priority standby" for the next available |
| 02:39.58 | Amarande | So that's down to 30-35 minutes already ... Now take another 10-15 minutes off that for actually GETTING INSIDE, because invariably if you're in Economy you get stuck behind some giant family that all insist on deplaning as a group and they've packed a carryon in the overheads for every kid :P |
| 02:40.38 | Amarande | So you're down to 15-20 minutes or so to make it across the entire damn airport ... during which you usually desperately have to pee and therefore can't run, nor do you have time to stop for the bathroom so you have to hold it till the next flight's at cruise altitude ... |
| 02:40.51 | Amarande | (Murphy's Law is that you will invariably get the urge just as the FASTEN BELTS light goes on for the final time, of course.) |
| 02:40.56 | Dagmar | Protip: If you _know_ you're going to be dealing with that and you're still in flight, be _very_ nice to the stewardperson because they can generally actually get your seating confirmed on the next flight while you're still in the air. |
| 02:41.01 | Ressy | Dagmar:Next flight for me was 2 days time. >.> |
| 02:41.06 | Arrowmaster | i manage to stop and get something to eat during 45minute layovers |
| 02:41.32 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: in my experience usually that 15-20 minutes is for making it across three or four concourses' worth of ATL :P |
| 02:41.38 | Dagmar | Hacker's Law says if you can't hold it for another three hours, you're not trying. |
| 02:41.46 | Amarande | Like I said, not even time to stop to hit the men's room |
| 02:42.01 | Amarande | Not unless you want to be a cad and not wash your hands, anyway :P |
| 02:43.16 | Amarande | I'm glad I check my luggage every trip, I can't imagine trying to do it with a heavy carryon in tow |
| 02:43.37 | Dagmar | I ship the important shit Fed-EX or UPS |
| 02:43.39 | Amarande | though checking my luggage leads to additional costs ... and other additional costs ... *sniff* my poor suitcase, I barely knew ye |
| 02:44.15 | Amarande | Dagmar, doesn't that depend on making absolutely sure you're at and checked-in to your lodging when it arrives, otherwise you're not there to sign for it and will have to spend half your day going out into the city to find the depot? |
| 02:44.50 | Amarande | I just bought this suitcase last spring, and it's already no longer travel-worthy. Friggin rigours of travel. :( |
| 02:45.02 | Dagmar | Amarande: Not when you've already talked to the hotel and they're aware your package will be arriving for you, and you've guaranteed your reservation |
| 02:45.07 | Amarande | I guess I'm going to have to find the money to go with Zero Halliburton or the such next time :S |
| 02:45.26 | Amarande | I'm reading that even Samsonites don't hold up to the stresses reliably lately |
| 02:45.28 | Dagmar | I've gotten hotels to sign for my laptop before |
| 02:45.50 | Amarande | otoh ... $400+ for a suitcase if I go with Zero Halliburton. *sigh* |
| 02:46.15 | Dagmar | You could always just go real cheap and consider them to be disposable |
| 02:46.30 | kullervo | Lantresor of the Blade says: My blade is yours, Sparine. I will fight by your side until the end of my days. |
| 02:46.33 | Dagmar | I prefer to use a suitcase large enough to store a body in when I travel |
| 02:46.38 | kullervo | poor guy will spend the rest of his days in a mine :( |
| 02:46.59 | Dagmar | ...it virtually guarantees that someone will be there at the terminal to take your bag to X-ray for you. :) |
| 02:47.16 | Torhal | That reminds me - I haven't even logged in to do my Garrison Monkey bit in over a week. |
| 02:47.27 | Torhal | Guess I finally said "Fuck this runaround." |
| 02:47.40 | Dagmar | They watch for people toting "suspiciously heavy" suitcases, and generally have a sense of humor about it when they take the bag you were huffing and chuffing with and realize it's only about half full. Heh |
| 02:47.44 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
| 02:48.03 | Torhal | hey Fisker |
| 02:48.04 | Torhal | Fartkontrol? |
| 02:48.13 | Fisker | daily yes |
| 02:48.56 | Dagmar | The last three times I pulled that, the suitcase was definitely loaded for bear on the way back |
| 02:49.15 | Dagmar | I averaged about $400-600 expenditure on vinyls when I'd go to SF. |
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| 02:50.14 | Arrowmaster | on the way home from blizzcon my suitcase was something like 2 lbs over the limit so i had to stuff more shit in my carryon |
| 02:51.04 | Xinhuan | were you carrying solid gold in your luggage or something |
| 02:51.07 | Dagmar | I took the girl I'm dating to the airport for a trip recently |
| 02:51.26 | Dagmar | SHe thought I was being silly when I made a big show of lifting her "heavy" to-be-checked bag out of the car. |
| 02:51.27 | Dagmar | :) |
| 02:51.33 | Dagmar | I was like, "Wait and see" |
| 02:51.51 | Dagmar | We didn't even have to cross the loading zone with it. |
| 02:51.53 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: cards against humanity box is heavy, plus the scotch |
| 02:52.06 | Xinhuan | heh.. scotch |
| 02:52.24 | Xinhuan | you probably could have bought that separately after arriving at the destination! |
| 02:52.31 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:52.47 | Dagmar | There's other little games you can play to mess with them |
| 02:52.58 | Dagmar | Like, packing your bags like you're playing tetris. |
| 02:53.03 | Arrowmaster | that was a 2013 only release |
| 02:53.17 | Dagmar | Then tend to only lightly manhandle things which look like they'll be a hell of a mess to put back |
| 02:53.55 | Arrowmaster | the other half of that bottle didnt last the rest of the month once i got home, one night at a club and it was gone |
| 02:55.28 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: my usual routine for cons is to pack a duffel in the bottom of my suitcase on the way out |
| 02:55.45 | Amarande | then I put usually the dirty laundry in the duffel and so make room for con loot in the suitcase, and carry the duffel on |
| 02:56.50 | Amarande | as for the fate of my most recent suitcase ... well, basically, first when I got back from Atlanta I found the wheeling handle or whatever you call it wouldn't extend |
| 02:56.55 | Arrowmaster | i had my laptop bag with me, only allowed one carryon |
| 02:57.10 | Amarande | discovered the struts or whatever the hell you're supposed to call the extender bars for the handle were jammed due to getting bent during transit |
| 02:57.26 | Amarande | the Delta lady at LaGuardia tried to help me fix it but we couldn't manage it :( |
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| 04:45.31 | WrathTECH | I cannot for the life of me get a loop timer to work properly. It's suppose to act like a colon on a digital clock. Show text for a second, then hide it for a second.. in a continuous loop. |
| 04:45.33 | WrathTECH | http://pastebin.com/m0s0LFYf |
| 04:47.00 | WrathTECH | Currently, it's flickering like every 100ms |
| 04:57.00 | Dagmar | Are you expecting that to only be called once a second? |
| 04:57.14 | WrathTECH | Yes. |
| 04:57.41 | Dagmar | I wasn't aware WoW's UI only called _anything_ once per second without being told that explicitly. |
| 04:58.32 | WrathTECH | Guess I just figured it did. Just came across UpdateInterval |
| 04:58.57 | Dagmar | Do epochseconds % 2 instead of just changing total |
| 05:00.21 | Dagmar | Hmm... No easy way to get at epochseconds |
| 05:02.32 | WrathTECH | I guess if anything, I will try to get UpdateInterval to work, unless there is easier alternative? |
| 05:02.41 | WrathTECH | Other then epochseconds |
| 05:02.57 | Dagmar | Ah t = os.date('*t') then os.time(t) % 2 |
| 05:03.14 | Dagmar | ...but from your description that thing is being called very rapidly |
| 05:03.33 | WrathTECH | It's almost like a strobe light currently. |
| 05:03.35 | WrathTECH | lol |
| 05:03.49 | Dagmar | At least if you use the modulus 2 of seconds to get 1 and 0 alternating it'll look right for now |
| 05:04.22 | Dagmar | Sounds like it's being called for each and every screen update |
| 05:04.23 | WrathTECH | Where should I be inserting that snippet? Start of the Lua file? |
| 05:04.35 | Dagmar | No, replace bits of what you pastebinned |
| 05:05.00 | WrathTECH | Sorry, I hate being a newbie. : / |
| 05:06.06 | Amarande | oh, now I know why I don't quite recognise these particular quests |
| 05:06.12 | Thordurin | hugs Cairenn |
| 05:06.14 | Amarande | I've never done this zone post cata as horde before ... *blink* |
| 05:06.24 | Cairenn | hugs Thordurin |
| 05:06.32 | Thordurin | you'll get the real thing on Nov |
| 05:06.34 | Thordurin | oh yes |
| 05:06.47 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:06.53 | Amarande | so, do we have a name for the next expansion pack yet, if Blizz wants to up the pace? |
| 05:08.23 | Dagmar | WrathTECH: http://pastebin.com/PdviyQRw <-- This may or may not work. My head's too full of java right now to be certain |
| 05:08.34 | Dagmar | Probably an extra end in there. Heh |
| 05:08.50 | WrathTECH | Haha. Oh, you must be having an entertaining night then. xD |
| 05:09.29 | Dagmar | Well, I'm getting results at least |
| 05:09.36 | WrathTECH | Best way to do it. |
| 05:10.06 | WrathTECH | Okay so from what I am seeing I was on the right track, except for I didn't have the OnUpdate timer properly set.. in a sense? |
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| 05:10.59 | Dagmar | I'm guessing you tied that to screen updates? |
| 05:11.10 | WrathTECH | Didn't tie to anything :S |
| 05:11.35 | Dagmar | WrathTECH http://www.wowwiki.com/Using_OnUpdate_correctly |
| 05:11.50 | Dagmar | Nah, it's being called exactly every screen refresh. heh |
| 05:12.14 | Dagmar | At least with lua you don't have to worry about some crazed garbage collector randomly destroying your instance values |
| 05:12.14 | WrathTECH | That's the page I was looking at to gire out the timing. |
| 05:12.23 | WrathTECH | syntax error in "s" at line 23: |
| 05:12.23 | WrathTECH | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.26 | Dagmar | "The game engine will call your OnUpdate function once each frame." |
| 05:13.05 | WrathTECH | Unfortunately, I don't understand os.time and modulus : / |
| 05:13.18 | Dagmar | Modulus is easy. It's just a word not everyone knows. |
| 05:13.21 | Dagmar | It's the _remainder_ |
| 05:14.04 | WrathTECH | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.09 | Dagmar | Take an odd number, divide it by two, you have a remainder of 1 |
| 05:14.31 | Dagmar | Delete the extra 'end' statement |
| 05:14.43 | WrathTECH | DOh, you did mention something about that. |
| 05:15.03 | WrathTECH | Nope, still throwing an error. |
| 05:15.17 | Dagmar | This is literally a second-cousin to the problem I just finished fixing in my android project |
| 05:15.31 | WrathTECH | Rofl |
| 05:15.36 | Dagmar | Well, we probably can't call os.time within WoW lua or something evil like that |
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| 05:16.14 | WrathTECH | I've seen it in several addons before |
| 05:16.55 | Dagmar | They may be Apparently you can just use time(). |
| 05:17.04 | Arrowmaster | thats just an alias wow made |
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| 05:19.00 | Dagmar | Perhaps this way then http://pastebin.com/dY57GWpU |
| 05:19.45 | WrathTECH | Same error still. |
| 05:20.25 | WrathTECH | Well, I'll keep poking at it, see if I can somehow get it working. I don't like taking other's time for stuff like this. |
| 05:20.27 | Semlar | = should be == |
| 05:20.30 | Arrowmaster | what error |
| 05:20.30 | Semlar | what are you even doing |
| 05:20.55 | Arrowmaster | if modulus == 1 then |
| 05:20.56 | WrathTECH | syntax error in "s" at line X: |
| 05:20.57 | WrathTECH | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:21.01 | Arrowmaster | change it to that |
| 05:21.10 | Semlar | the error like tells you exactly what to look at |
| 05:21.26 | Dagmar | Ah the lua docs I'm looking at make it look like you can use single equals marks |
| 05:21.30 | WrathTECH | Yes, I know, I've been able to find them and fix them |
| 05:21.49 | WrathTECH | Yes, that fixed it. Thank you so much. |
| 05:22.08 | Dagmar | I suppose that's a bit worse than android documentation gotchas |
| 05:22.11 | WrathTECH | I've only been toying with that snippet for 3 days now. |
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| 05:22.31 | Dagmar | Drink more caffiene |
| 05:22.39 | Dagmar | About a month ago I didn't know any java |
| 05:22.41 | WrathTECH | Lol. I know, right? lol |
| 05:22.58 | Semlar | i would not write this like that if you want something to happen every second |
| 05:23.02 | WrathTECH | Honestly I only know HTML/CSS, and a little bit of batch file scripting. |
| 05:23.31 | WrathTECH | Semlar: It's basically doing what a digital clock does with the colon. |
| 05:23.41 | WrathTECH | Show for one second, hide for one second. |
| 05:23.49 | Dagmar | WrathTECH: More a matter of look at the bottom of http://wow.gamepedia.com/Using_OnUpdate_correctly |
| 05:24.31 | Dagmar | Tying the change to the modulus 2 of seconds will make it be in the right phase all the time, but you don't necessarily have to push an update to the screen every time onUpdate is called, dig? |
| 05:24.33 | WrathTECH | Dagmar: I did take a look at that one. Just wasn't sure what to make of it. |
| 05:24.46 | WrathTECH | Yup yup! |
| 05:25.00 | Dagmar | Well, the bit where it says "Insert your own OnUpdate code here"... |
| 05:25.24 | WrathTECH | Well, that's the easy part. Everything else was like, wut? |
| 05:25.32 | Semlar | it would be faster to define a variable outside the onupdate function that you add "elapsed" to instead of calling time() |
| 05:25.58 | WrathTECH | That's what I originally had Semlr. It was updating ~ every 100ms |
| 05:26.08 | WrathTECH | Kind of had a strobe light effect. |
| 05:26.16 | Dagmar | If you set MyAddon_UpdateInterval to say, 1.0, you can stick the little if-then-else in there |
| 05:26.27 | Dagmar | WrathTECH: What's your FPS? |
| 05:26.40 | WrathTECH | 60 w/ V-Suync enabled |
| 05:26.44 | Semlar | you didn't have it written correctly |
| 05:26.48 | WrathTECH | *V-sync |
| 05:27.02 | Dagmar | So it wasn't updating every 100ms, it was updating 60 or 30 times a second |
| 05:27.20 | WrathTECH | Yeah, kinda hard to count when things are blinking so fast xD |
| 05:27.45 | Semlar | in the example you pasted earlier you don't add elapsed to "total" |
| 05:27.56 | Semlar | to just flip it from 1 to 0 every frame |
| 05:28.01 | Dagmar | So the point of that MyAddon_OnUpdate variation there is to make it so that if at least X amount of time hasn't passed since the last time it was called, it just skips the payload |
| 05:28.11 | WrathTECH | I did have elapsed. Then I changed it to total = total +1 |
| 05:29.12 | WrathTECH | AFK for a few minutes folks. Need a quick break. |
| 05:30.20 | Semlar | should just be something like this http://pastebin.com/iFK53Gn0 |
| 05:31.31 | Dagmar | I wondered if you could stack operations inside the if |
| 05:33.12 | WrathTECH | Semlar: That's virtually what I had... guess the only issue is I didn't know about the % |
| 05:33.24 | Semlar | well it's not what you had pasted |
| 05:33.34 | WrathTECH | No no, that's before what I pasted. |
| 05:33.45 | Semlar | or just this http://pastebin.com/bwfHciXG |
| 05:34.29 | WrathTECH | Well, I do know the less code the lighter the AddOn |
| 05:34.56 | WrathTECH | Really shouldn't matter with this though, It doesn't have a huge database or anything. |
| 05:37.46 | WrathTECH | Wishing I started off with a much more basic AddOn... trying to learn too much at once. |
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| 05:46.12 | Neffi | wait what |
| 05:47.54 | Neffi | % = 2.0001 % 2 -- Semlar |
| 05:47.54 | yalb | Neffi: 0.00010000000000021 |
| 05:48.00 | Neffi | your code won't work |
| 05:48.11 | Semlar | http://i.imgur.com/DPeOnvh.jpg here neffi |
| 05:48.14 | Neffi | has a pretty small chance of ever printing anything |
| 05:48.34 | Neffi | Semlar: this gif is broken |
| 05:48.40 | Neffi | I'm not seeing a death animation |
| 05:48.44 | Neffi | it's just, like, standing still |
| 05:48.51 | Semlar | it's not a gif |
| 05:49.03 | Neffi | don't talk crazy |
| 05:49.12 | Semlar | it has jpg right in the name |
| 05:49.26 | Neffi | are you sure? http://i.imgur.com/DPeOnvh.gif |
| 05:49.35 | Semlar | your gif is broken |
| 05:49.43 | Neffi | no its fine |
| 05:52.24 | Semlar | anyway just do (total - total % 1) % 2 |
| 05:52.40 | Semlar | much easier to read |
| 05:52.46 | Neffi | def |
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| 06:03.58 | WrathTECH | Who all is the main npc's this expansion? Khadgar, Blackhand, and who else? |
| 06:07.42 | Mini_Dragon | Yrel |
| 06:08.43 | WrathTECH | Thank you, completely forgot about her. |
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| 06:23.25 | Dagmar | really? Heh |
| 06:23.43 | Dagmar | On my third toon I realized, "I am this NPCs 'idiot escort npc' |
| 06:24.36 | Dagmar | She's just trying to get her quest done and has to wait on us and just hope we don't do anything reckless and stupid. |
| 06:32.29 | Dagmar | I figure if they're letting me maintain an army, run a village, and pick fights with epic villains, that must mean she's kind of a big deal |
| 06:44.49 | WrathTECH | Rofl. The 6 toons I've leveled to 100 so far, were more or less, push to get quests done, and don't even think of lore. |
| 06:46.09 | WrathTECH | Well this sucks. I can't get WoW Model Viewer to force anti-aliasing now. : / |
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| 11:25.34 | foxlit | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/17084068296#1 |
| 11:26.14 | foxlit | ffs, it's still bugged 5 months after the expansion launch. |
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| 14:44.54 | Thunder_Child | ~ping |
| 14:44.54 | purl | ~pong |
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| 14:58.29 | Lopeppeppy | I am not allowed to do the murders while the sun is up. I am not allowed to do the murders while the sun is up. |
| 15:01.35 | |Jelly| | I'll allow it. |
| 15:13.28 | Torhal | That's awfully nice of you, |Jelly|, to sacrifice yourself for Lopeppeppy's sanity. |
| 15:13.45 | Lopeppeppy | You got the bail money? These monkeys are driving me crazy today. |
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| 15:18.55 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster: I'm pretty sure you did the UrlCopy for prat - the one it has now. Is there an updated version somewhere like chatter? |
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| 15:37.37 | phelps | http://wowtoken.phelps.io/ |
| 15:37.53 | phelps | got a better data source method now, added the true sell time |
| 15:38.11 | phelps | still wish there was a way to do it without the wow client :( using all my rams |
| 15:39.31 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: no but you can update the tld list in it |
| 15:42.57 | sylvanaar | How many new tlds are there, there seem to be so many now |
| 15:43.44 | nevcairiel | there is new tlds every day now |
| 15:47.56 | sylvanaar | Idk if i could put a full list in there lol |
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| 15:54.10 | Thunder_Child | "There were 224863 failed login attempts since the last successful login." That was about 40 days worth. |
| 15:54.30 | Maldivia | who, what, where? |
| 15:54.39 | Thunder_Child | My server. |
| 15:57.01 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
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| 16:15.26 | g0urra | Hasselhoff made a new song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTidn2dBYbY |
| 16:16.19 | Elkano | Hasselhoff... blocked in Germany... does not compute... ;) |
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| 16:41.43 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: the link to the full list is in the comments above the list thats in there now |
| 16:41.47 | kd3 | gotta love poorly-written spambots... someone tried (but failed) to create the "article" òå¾âæâºÂ´Ã¥Â¥Â½Ã§Å¡âæŽâåèËâ¡Ã©Ë接建è¨ÂæÅÃ¥â¹â¢Ã§Å¡â幫åŠ|
| 16:41.59 | nevcairiel | encoding is hard |
| 16:42.15 | Arrowmaster | id be easier if everybody would just realize how great utf8 is |
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| 17:08.21 | Stanzilla | not even every text editor/crappe html generator tool defaults to utf8 |
| 17:08.27 | Stanzilla | that would be good enough already |
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| 17:17.34 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:19.05 | foxlit | (and Lua binaries for windows that already include the required modules) |
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| 17:46.36 | Amarande | hrm. are rich thorium veins bugged or is the RNG just being *that* odd? |
| 17:48.53 | Amarande | had about 215 mining going into Swamp of Sorrows. just reached Blasted Lands. Mined every Rich and Small Thorium Vein I encountered along the way (that that cursed Alliance hunter didn't take, anyway :P) |
| 17:49.29 | Amarande | Every small vein (tooltip shows as "Mining 200" with a yellow profession colour) gave a skill up. NONE of the rich veins (listed as "Mining 215" in orange) gave any. |
| 17:49.44 | Amarande | I thought the rich veins were a higher skill level ... Loot was normal, only the skill ups seem odd |
| 17:57.03 | Amarande | dang. apparently they're bugged. *shrug* odd. |
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| 18:31.05 | kullervo | Thunder_Child: whoa that's... a lot, are you using some tarpit or time ban solution? |
| 18:31.38 | Thunder_Child | kullervo: I thought I was but it didn't seem to be running. |
| 18:31.50 | Torhal | New Star Wars teaser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngElkyQ6Rhs |
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| 19:06.31 | zenzelezz | so today at work, instead of normal background music... I listened to Schiphol air traffic control... |
| 19:07.41 | Thunder_Child | That's not 'abnormal' music. |
| 19:08.12 | zenzelezz | hm, there is truth to that |
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| 19:32.23 | karl_w_w | okay, so that was the end of that episode of arrow :o |
| 19:34.17 | Fisker | Okay, so what was the start is that episode of arrow |
| 19:34.52 | karl_w_w | okay, so that was Fisker |
| 19:38.28 | Fisker | Was it? |
| 19:43.00 | fewyn | http://www.twitch.tv/oldspice |
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| 20:06.10 | karl_w_w | FailFish, fewyn |
| 20:06.18 | fewyn | yes? |
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| 20:18.23 | Arrowmaster | Unkle, Torhal: so envious of this guy right now https://i.imgur.com/eppJYAH.jpg |
| 20:19.04 | kullervo | well damn |
| 20:19.34 | Unkle | Damn |
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| 20:20.02 | Arrowmaster | comparison of them all https://www.reddit.com/r/Scotch/comments/32rgx0/laphroaig_tasting/cqdxtoo |
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| 21:11.16 | Torhal | Good lord, Arrowmaster. |
| 21:26.25 | VIad | classy http://ss.bool.no/capture_1429219564.png |
| 21:29.26 | Maldivia | I would call it ballsy |
| 21:37.04 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Maldivia |
| 21:37.04 | purl | follow's Maldivia with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
| 21:39.36 | Maldivia | what... :D |
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| 22:02.09 | jleclanche | anyone on EU HS who wants to be spectated? :p |
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| 22:19.30 | karl_w_w | okay this is great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei7pz6axpxg |
| 22:19.59 | karl_w_w | good luck jleclanche, I spectated somebody for an hour and he didn't get that win :P |
| 22:29.59 | kd3 | huh, wow. the button got down to 26s seven times |
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| 22:35.01 | Torhal | kd3: Did you do the math to determine if Illuminati confirmed? :D |
| 22:35.11 | kd3 | lol |
| 22:36.36 | Shirik | maybe not illuminati but definitely hl3 |
| 22:39.04 | znf | kd3, I completely forgot : |
| 22:39.06 | znf | :o |
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| 23:25.43 | Simca | so happy for Devotion Aura buff |
| 23:26.37 | kd3 | hm. raid testing already |
| 23:29.45 | Gethe | new xml attribute: mixin |
| 23:29.47 | Amarande | yeah, apparently they want to move us onto the next expansion by Q1 2016 according to rumour, though nobody seems to even know what the xpac is about yet |
| 23:30.01 | Amarande | I'm still wondering how an expansion a year is going to work with the holiday events, though |
| 23:30.23 | kd3 | most holiday events have 0 content that requires max level |
| 23:30.35 | kd3 | it's trivial to scale a single boss encounter |
| 23:30.46 | Amarande | presumably if we get an annual expansion it would need to be about the same time every year or people would complain about cut length ones |
| 23:31.31 | kd3 | ugh, another garrison resource? |
| 23:31.32 | kd3 | grrs |
| 23:32.49 | Amarande | kd3: we'd still rather not have any of them end up being like Pandaria release Brewfest every year, where you had to take vacation from work for launch or pull a bunch of all nighters to level quick enough :) |
| 23:33.27 | kd3 | they've shifted holiday dates around for expansion launches before |
| 23:33.31 | kd3 | they'll do it again if they have to |
| 23:36.36 | Amarande | or else make the release cycle around Noblegarden/Children's Week time, I don't believe either of those require max level (wait, CW has PvP stuff doesn't it ... wait actually that's all battlegrounds so doesn't matter the level cap) |
| 23:36.47 | Amarande | and leaves plenty of lead time for leveling up prior to Midsummer when the next one is |
| 23:40.53 | Mr_Rabies | tbh they should just revamp the holiday dungeon events as scenarios and implement scaling |
| 23:42.01 | Amarande | yeah, scaling dungeons would be awesome |
| 23:42.21 | Mr_Rabies | let even lowbies queue up for em cause why not, have a bag with gear based on level in it |
| 23:42.42 | foxlit | what will you do when your healer only knows "Heal"? |
| 23:42.47 | Mr_Rabies | almost all of them have had drops since level 60 was a thing |
| 23:43.05 | Mr_Rabies | since it's a scenario, probably be okay :p |
| 23:43.47 | foxlit | ah, you mean tune-them-into-oblivion. |
| 23:43.58 | kd3 | not like they're not jokes anyway |
| 23:44.05 | kd3 | s/anyway/already/ |
| 23:44.54 | Mr_Rabies | http://gfycat.com/DefiantFocusedIbadanmalimbe |
| 23:45.16 | Amarande | I actually can't think of any major MMO besides WoW where max level bosses are even a significant part of any holiday celebrations |
| 23:45.34 | Amarande | actually, the holiday events as they stand are very often kind of trying to be two things at once and failing horridly at it as a result |
| 23:45.51 | Amarande | e.g., it's been the general belief that holiday events are designed as a thing for more casual players |
| 23:46.16 | Amarande | ... yet then you have several holidays with achievements requiring city raids, which basically mean you need to be hardcore arena PvPers to be geared enough to have a shot at |
| 23:47.01 | Amarande | (seeing that Blizz basically decided to put most of the better PvP gear behind arena/RBG, and for a long time it was solely arena) |
| 23:48.25 | Amarande | At least they did away with the silly system where higher rating got you access to materially better gear :) |
| 23:48.44 | Amarande | to me that never quite made sense, I suppose it does on the "reward for skill" angle but on the other hand it's basically a *reverse* handicap system |
| 23:50.01 | Amarande | (And yet meanwhile when I'm on other MMOs I will regularly see benighted players who think it would be great to add in superior gear for higher rated players :P ... go figure) |
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| 23:59.12 | kullervo | that was confusing |
| 23:59.19 | kullervo | I pulled Oondasta solo after gliding there |
| 23:59.34 | kullervo | then some random x-realm hunters ported in and blew up the boss |
