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| 00:25.04 | VIad | karl_w_w: <3 |
| 00:25.18 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 00:35.44 | mikma | cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/HO8Gz |
| 00:36.50 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:44.21 | VIad | to cheer you up |
| 00:44.22 | VIad | http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/12/09/ohio-man-exonerated-after-spending-27-years-in-prison-for-a-murder-he-didnt-commit/ |
| 00:52.53 | plaw | vote now to help choose the next+1 release name for OpenWRT! https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2015-April/032358.html |
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| 01:06.05 | VIad | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/revoke-scientologys-tax-exempt-status |
| 01:06.37 | VIad | scientology is tax excempt? I guess I should make a religion, it's profitable! |
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| 02:05.21 | karl_w_w | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions/popular/0/2/0/ some of this page is a really sad reflection on the american populace |
| 02:07.37 | Primer | Some of them make sense |
| 02:08.06 | Primer | But I guess the fact that they make sense is the sad part |
| 02:08.20 | Primer | Like "Pardon Edward Snowden" |
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| 02:37.33 | Kesava | https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/prohibit-any-laws-mandating-force-and-requirement-vaccinations-any-kind |
| 02:37.37 | Kesava | a list of idiots! |
| 02:42.06 | jleclanche | Kesava: there's more efficient ways to get lists of idiots |
| 02:42.15 | jleclanche | facebook.com allows you to search and filter for them. |
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| 03:06.57 | VIad | "This includes forcing children to be vaccinated to attend public schools, activities, and daycare centers." |
| 03:07.07 | VIad | fuck I want my kid to be the pleague bearer |
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| 03:22.44 | pompy | dolby: Blue over red on Monday! ;) |
| 03:27.56 | dolby | Nope, on Wisconsin! Go Bucky!!! ;) |
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| 03:40.16 | Corv | Does anyone know, or know where to find documentation on, how movable frames reselect their attachment point when they stop moving? |
| 03:41.08 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/Qkm6im4.png znf |
| 03:43.56 | kullervo | that's... actually interesting |
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| 04:10.14 | jleclanche | snow in april \o/ |
| 04:10.17 | jleclanche | i like this country |
| 04:11.04 | Primer | Which country? |
| 04:12.28 | mckenziemc | Isle of jleclanche |
| 04:12.37 | jleclanche | sweden |
| 04:14.10 | Ycarene | They're predicting possible snow in monday for us. |
| 04:15.43 | mckenziemc | pronoun or country |
| 04:16.46 | karl_w_w | amateurnoun |
| 04:20.04 | mckenziemc | spares karl_w_w and instead stabs Torhal a bit with a large swordfish. |
| 04:28.33 | Torhal | makes mckenziemc realize that none of this is real, and mckenziemc is actually in a vegetative state. |
| 04:28.55 | Fisker | Herr Torhal |
| 04:29.06 | Torhal | Frau Fisker |
| 04:29.40 | Torhal | I meant "friend" |
| 04:29.42 | Torhal | Sorry! |
| 04:29.44 | Fisker | That's Fräulein to you Torhal |
| 04:29.49 | Torhal | Damn it. |
| 04:33.38 | mckenziemc | moving my mouse made the other computer reboot :( |
| 04:33.44 | mckenziemc | (it was active on the KVM) |
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| 05:07.57 | Shirik | hey compsci people... can someone explain to me why SAT is NP-complete? Specifically, why is it easily verifiable? Like I totally get the true case (give me the values for the variables and I can check to see if it's true) but if you say something is unsatisfiable, how do you verify that? |
| 05:08.49 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 05:08.56 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 05:09.02 | Fisker | i like you |
| 05:09.25 | Shirik | everyone likes me |
| 05:10.45 | Fisker | Not if I told everybody you were the boogeyman |
| 05:29.15 | karl_w_w | Shirik loves to boogey |
| 05:29.25 | karl_w_w | that wouldn't be news to anyone |
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| 05:42.43 | Iriel | Shirik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook%E2%80%93Levin_theorem |
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| 05:48.05 | Shirik | aw iriel left :( |
| 05:48.27 | Fisker | I miss iriel |
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| 06:17.15 | Torhal | What if I tell people you're bøhmand, Fisker? |
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| 07:06.57 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/16858256314 |
| 07:07.02 | bluspacecow | possible yes or no ? |
| 07:08.51 | phelps | sure its possible, wouldn't be too hard either |
| 07:09.14 | phelps | I've actually done a decent amount of work for this already, haha |
| 07:12.34 | phelps | bluspacecow, do you want an addon for that ? |
| 07:13.04 | bluspacecow | Not really no just wanted someone to post if it were |
| 07:13.12 | bluspacecow | you wanna do so :P |
| 07:14.05 | phelps | http://i.imgur.com/uLDQy6c.png |
| 07:14.08 | phelps | is what I've got now |
| 07:14.13 | phelps | but it seems something broke :/ |
| 07:14.36 | phelps | it only gets 3 items ... dafuq |
| 07:14.40 | bluspacecow | does the person you inspect have to be running it ? |
| 07:14.45 | phelps | no |
| 07:15.05 | bluspacecow | does it only get 3 items on everyone you inspect ? |
| 07:15.22 | phelps | lol idk why its broken |
| 07:15.26 | phelps | it gets all items when its not |
| 07:15.39 | phelps | doesn't save gems or enchants, but that doesn't matter much anymore |
| 07:15.40 | bluspacecow | slap it with a rubber chicken! |
| 07:15.58 | phelps | i guess I can put it on wowinterface |
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| 07:20.41 | bluspacecow | are you just cycling through the gear slots or are you stepping through some form of linked list? |
| 07:21.07 | phelps | using LibItemUpgradeInfo, however it works |
| 07:21.16 | phelps | it gets a item link from a slot # |
| 07:21.18 | bluspacecow | just wondering if after the third item of gear what your using to get the next gets a nill reference or something |
| 07:30.11 | Arrowmaster | RAWR! |
| 07:30.14 | Arrowmaster | i love my life |
| 07:30.53 | bluspacecow | y? |
| 07:31.54 | Arrowmaster | spent the day with friends and did fun stuff |
| 07:47.18 | Corv | I suppose there's no way to induce the fullscreen blur from being drunk via addon. |
| 07:47.23 | bluspacecow | yay choas and debauchery with friends! |
| 07:47.28 | bluspacecow | chaos rather |
| 07:48.05 | bluspacecow | @Crov if thereâs a Cvar for it you could flip that then restart the gfx something |
| 07:48.14 | bluspacecow | gfx system rather |
| 07:48.39 | bluspacecow | wait. not sure if gfxrestartâs still a thing |
| 07:48.52 | Corv | Seems that just enables the possibility of *having* that effect while drunk. |
| 07:48.57 | Corv | Not the effect itself. |
| 07:49.08 | bluspacecow | youâld need to trigger a reload |
| 07:49.13 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:50.47 | bluspacecow | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/fullscreengloweliminator |
| 07:51.07 | Corv | I think we're failing to communicate. |
| 07:51.30 | bluspacecow | you want to do it while not drunk ? |
| 07:51.32 | Corv | The cvars are already set, and my character isn't drunk, and I want to force the "drunk" effect anyways, and I don't think that's possible. |
| 07:56.12 | Arrowmaster | bluspacecow: i dont think you know how accurate that statement was |
| 07:57.27 | Corv | Hrm. Okay. Alternate idea had. Testing will wait until after work tomorr- today. Later! |
| 07:58.03 | phelps | lol bluspacecow, I had no intentions of ever working on this ever again ever |
| 07:58.50 | bluspacecow | that bad huh :P |
| 07:59.12 | phelps | yeah |
| 07:59.15 | phelps | but I'm fixing it |
| 08:06.26 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/v8rrnP4 |
| 08:08.26 | karl_w_w | somebody recommend a recent typical action blockbuster movie that I haven't seen |
| 08:08.32 | bluspacecow | Paddington |
| 08:09.28 | karl_w_w | need one that was released in 3D |
| 08:10.14 | karl_w_w | damn me, I've apparently seen them all |
| 08:11.31 | Mr_Rabies | have you seen dredd? |
| 08:11.40 | Mr_Rabies | it's like, the best movie for 3D stuff |
| 08:14.43 | karl_w_w | yeah i have |
| 08:16.36 | phelps | bluspacecow, i think this is good enough http://i.imgur.com/QnwQu56.png |
| 08:17.03 | phelps | idk how to get slot ID -> locale name |
| 08:17.14 | phelps | other than a static table |
| 08:17.18 | karl_w_w | I'll try journey to the center of the earth, that's meant to be decent |
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| 08:30.15 | Mr_Rabies | you could try rewatching dredd instead |
| 08:30.18 | Mr_Rabies | :v |
| 08:30.43 | Kalroth | or moon |
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| 08:34.42 | Cairenn | "I am the law!" |
| 08:38.47 | Fisker | sends Cairenn to prison |
| 08:38.57 | Fisker | :( |
| 08:39.03 | Cairenn | *pouts* |
| 08:40.15 | Fisker | Maybe the prisoner transport will crash and you escape to prove your innocence |
| 08:40.30 | Cairenn | possible |
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| 08:49.22 | foxlit | Shirik: your question is weird. |
| 08:49.51 | karl_w_w | Hey Fisker, what I want from you is a hard-target search of every gas station, residence, warehouse, farmhouse, henhouse, outhouse and doghouse in that area. |
| 08:50.18 | Fisker | no! |
| 08:50.36 | foxlit | if you could easily verify that an arbitrary CNF formula is unsatisfiable, NP would be P. |
| 08:51.04 | Fisker | goes to save Cairenn's life in the desert |
| 08:51.20 | Cairenn | lol |
| 08:52.32 | foxlit | so maybe you meant to ask "how do we know SAT is in NP if you can't verify unsatisfiable instanes in polynomial time?", in which case the answer is "NP doesn't require us to do that." |
| 08:53.40 | foxlit | on the other hand, if you wanted to ask "how do we know SAT is NP-Complete?", abd everything that followed was just confusion, Iriel's link answers that. |
| 08:56.28 | plaw | suspect Cairenn will like this... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CB0GkUvW8AASUno.jpg |
| 08:56.57 | Cairenn | heh |
| 08:59.37 | Fisker | lewd |
| 09:00.31 | bluspacecow | hard on collider ? |
| 09:00.42 | phelps | lol |
| 09:02.06 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 09:06.52 | bluspacecow | hay |
| 09:07.08 | bluspacecow | ~d3alery |
| 09:07.15 | bluspacecow | ~d3alert |
| 09:07.15 | purl | http://us.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-us (US) or http://eu.launcher.battle.net/service/d3/alert/en-gb (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 09:07.18 | bluspacecow | ~fiskeralert |
| 09:09.11 | Sintacks | I made $20/hr tonight and last night. o.o holy shit |
| 09:09.23 | Sintacks | my old record was 15.80 |
| 09:09.44 | bluspacecow | doing what ? |
| 09:11.41 | Sintacks | pizza delivery |
| 09:12.18 | foxlit | bluspacecow: this is where you pretend you're playing cah and suggest the worst possible alternative. |
| 09:12.18 | nevcairiel | do you get paid for number of pizzas delivered or what |
| 09:12.33 | Sintacks | I get $2 a delivery, but that's for gas and shit. |
| 09:12.53 | Sintacks | i get my adjusted hourly from hourly+tips/time |
| 09:13.22 | bluspacecow | so if you deliver the pizzas from a tricycle you get paid crap ? |
| 09:13.23 | nevcairiel | i wonder if the tips ever reach the driver if i pay online including the tip |
| 09:13.28 | bluspacecow | what about if your on a unicycle ? |
| 09:13.41 | nevcairiel | i just dont have cash around =p |
| 09:14.09 | Sintacks | the driver gets the tips if you pay via card online (if you are talking about the big three) [i don't work for the big 3, but i know that] |
| 09:14.25 | Sintacks | but they don't get the whole delivery fee. |
| 09:14.39 | Sintacks | at least my local papa johns doesn't. the fee is $2.50. they get $1.5 |
| 09:14.44 | nevcairiel | i'm probably talking about an entirely different country |
| 09:14.51 | Sintacks | WELL FUCK YOUR PIZZA |
| 09:14.54 | Sintacks | i mean |
| 09:14.56 | Sintacks | hi |
| 09:14.59 | bluspacecow | that would be painful |
| 09:15.04 | Sintacks | idk |
| 09:15.07 | Sintacks | depends how fresh it is |
| 09:15.09 | nevcairiel | obviously you let it cool |
| 09:15.12 | foxlit | wouldn't it be basically fraud if they didn't? |
| 09:15.18 | Sintacks | if i'm delivering it to you, it's still going to be hot. |
| 09:15.19 | karl_w_w | minimum wage in aus is $18.70/hour :P |
| 09:15.28 | bluspacecow | which country are you speaking of nevcairiel |
| 09:15.33 | karl_w_w | sure you have to reduce that by a fifth for currency conversion, but still |
| 09:15.40 | Sintacks | yeah, but your 18.70 is equiv to my 8 |
| 09:15.41 | nevcairiel | foxlit: dunno, it never specifies who i'm tipping, i might be tipping the cook |
| 09:16.14 | Sintacks | i ordered papa johns when i was at work once and had it deliveried. |
| 09:16.16 | Sintacks | it was funny |
| 09:16.17 | karl_w_w | equivalent to your $14.27 Sintacks |
| 09:16.25 | nevcairiel | designating tip before its actually delivered feels weird anyway, if it arrives way late and kinda cold, i might not tip the guy =p |
| 09:16.32 | Sintacks | we were already closed and i was hungery and wasn't going to get out of there soon enough to get food. |
| 09:16.50 | Sintacks | nevcairiel, normally if it's late and cold, it's not the driver's fault. |
| 09:17.06 | karl_w_w | but he still doesnt get tipped |
| 09:17.15 | karl_w_w | which is why your tipping culture is ridiculous |
| 09:17.36 | nevcairiel | tipping is stupid anyway, why would i pay him more just for doing his job |
| 09:17.40 | Sintacks | tipping a waiter in a restaurant is stupid. yes. just pay them what they should make. |
| 09:17.41 | nevcairiel | i dont get tips for doing my job |
| 09:18.00 | Sintacks | there is nothing wrong with tipping a driver. we make min wage or better already so a tip is just for fast/friendly service. |
| 09:18.01 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 09:18.12 | Sintacks | and because you're a lazy fatass and won't pick up your own food. |
| 09:18.13 | bluspacecow | so i canât stuff $20s down your pants nevcairiel ? |
| 09:18.45 | Sintacks | i've always tipped drivers. |
| 09:18.47 | nevcairiel | if as you say most of the time it doesnt even depend on the driver how fast your food arrives, and we interact with them for like 10 seconds, how am i supposed to determine if its fast and friendly service on the drivers part? |
| 09:19.10 | Sintacks | and i tip waitstaff depending on how well they perform. if i'm sitting here without a refill for 10 minutes you ain't getting shi.t |
| 09:19.11 | nevcairiel | I can determine how friendly a waiter is |
| 09:19.11 | karl_w_w | if there were no lazy fatasses you'd be getting tipped 0 Sintacks |
| 09:19.16 | bluspacecow | work tiems :( |
| 09:19.19 | karl_w_w | because your job wouldnt exist |
| 09:19.53 | Sintacks | i also wouldn't have put 17k miles on my car since oct either. =p |
| 09:26.45 | karl_w_w | ahh garrison resources |
| 09:26.52 | karl_w_w | the source of all draenic dust |
| 09:27.07 | nevcairiel | i use them to buy fish for stat foods these days |
| 09:27.11 | foxlit | I thought that was salvage crates |
| 09:27.35 | karl_w_w | salvage crates don't get you that much |
| 09:27.55 | nevcairiel | i got rid of my salvage yard, only useless crap in there and annoying to do all the time |
| 09:28.04 | karl_w_w | compared to trading in resources for hundreds at a time |
| 09:28.42 | g0urra | wow, the final fantasy style sure has changed https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/final-fantasy-record-keeper!/id933684732?mt=8 |
| 09:28.53 | karl_w_w | I wish i could turn off this crap bag highlight thing |
| 09:29.02 | karl_w_w | it's meant to be really good g0urra |
| 09:29.16 | g0urra | you didn't click the link, did you |
| 09:29.35 | karl_w_w | ha |
| 09:29.44 | karl_w_w | the real one is meant to be really good g0urra |
| 09:29.55 | g0urra | yeah |
| 09:32.02 | karl_w_w | http://www.pcgamer.com/gta-5-preload-begins-april-7/ |
| 09:32.06 | karl_w_w | my adsl is ready |
| 09:32.25 | Mr_Rabies | >preordering for pc |
| 09:32.26 | Mr_Rabies | good luck! |
| 09:33.03 | karl_w_w | first time I've preordered something in memory |
| 09:33.22 | karl_w_w | I preordered something ~15 years ago, but i don't remember what |
| 09:33.24 | Mr_Rabies | there's roughly a 50% chance of wasting your $60! |
| 09:33.35 | Mr_Rabies | also did they ever get rid of the microtransactions on a $60 game? |
| 09:34.00 | karl_w_w | depends on the game |
| 09:34.16 | Mr_Rabies | talking GTAV specifically |
| 09:34.20 | karl_w_w | and on what you call a microtransaction |
| 09:34.26 | karl_w_w | I don't think it has any? |
| 09:34.40 | phelps | you can buy money in GTAV but thats it |
| 09:34.48 | Fisker | nobody with preloads preordered anything Mr_Rabies |
| 09:34.54 | Neffi | touches Semlar's butt |
| 09:35.07 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't the multiplayer stuff also waste an absolute ton of money? |
| 09:35.12 | Mr_Rabies | or did they fix that? |
| 09:35.27 | Mr_Rabies | they kept making the multiplayer more and more costly to promote the microtransactions last i saw |
| 09:35.37 | karl_w_w | the multiplayer is free |
| 09:35.40 | karl_w_w | well |
| 09:35.43 | karl_w_w | included in the game |
| 09:35.46 | phelps | yeah, multiplayer is where you can use the money |
| 09:36.03 | phelps | the shark cards only put money into your online account afaik |
| 09:36.06 | Mr_Rabies | i mean |
| 09:36.18 | Fisker | Don't know why people are knocking preorders that much |
| 09:36.20 | Mr_Rabies | everything in the multiplayer kept getting worse cash rewards and things kept costing more to replace, etc |
| 09:36.30 | phelps | and yeah, you can blow through 1m quite fast and thats over $20 |
| 09:36.35 | Mr_Rabies | preorders and microtransactions are a blight on the industry |
| 09:36.47 | Mr_Rabies | i'll get GTAV when it's like $20 on a steam sale, probably |
| 09:36.47 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 09:37.08 | phelps | $1.25m = $19.99 |
| 09:37.20 | phelps | some cars cost over that |
| 09:37.22 | karl_w_w | preorders generally are the worst idea in existence |
| 09:37.38 | Mr_Rabies | unless there's a prerelease demo, and even then |
| 09:37.46 | karl_w_w | you end up with what we have now, most triple A titles are shit |
| 09:37.47 | Mr_Rabies | not a great idea |
| 09:38.01 | Fisker | how karl_w_w ? |
| 09:38.11 | phelps | why don't they do it kickstarter style, they don't charge until release but it lets them know how many people are ready to buy it |
| 09:38.24 | Fisker | that's not how kickstarter works phelps |
| 09:38.27 | karl_w_w | because that's the same thing |
| 09:38.33 | Fisker | It is however how preordering works |
| 09:38.40 | phelps | but thats how people USE Kickstarter most of the time |
| 09:38.45 | Mr_Rabies | most AAA titles are barely-finished hallway simulators with multi-million dollar marketing budgets, microtransactions to try to get the cost over $100, and are rarely worth more than about $10-20 |
| 09:38.51 | karl_w_w | if people have already bought the game, the game can be shit |
| 09:38.56 | karl_w_w | and sold purely on marketing |
| 09:39.10 | Fisker | I haven't recalled a single kickstarter that had the release of the product occur just after funding completed |
| 09:39.16 | Fisker | That's not preordering karl_w_w |
| 09:39.21 | Mr_Rabies | kickstarter pulls funds immediately IIRC |
| 09:39.26 | Fisker | nope Mr_Rabies |
| 09:39.31 | phelps | right after its funded |
| 09:39.33 | Mr_Rabies | well yeah |
| 09:39.35 | Mr_Rabies | that's what i meant |
| 09:39.44 | Mr_Rabies | indiegogo has more options but yeah |
| 09:39.54 | phelps | and 99% of kickstarters are "preorders" no matter how you want to try and get around that |
| 09:39.59 | phelps | you pre-pre-order |
| 09:40.03 | Mr_Rabies | indiegogo has an even worse rep than kickstarter |
| 09:40.26 | Mr_Rabies | i kickstarted Wakfu Blu-Rays, it's been on netflix for subscribers for like 6 months now |
| 09:40.31 | Mr_Rabies | and i still don't hae my Blu-Rays |
| 09:40.59 | Mr_Rabies | still love having a real copy of it though, so long as they don't royally fuck up production somehow |
| 09:41.06 | karl_w_w | kickstarter is not the future, that's for sure |
| 09:41.30 | Mr_Rabies | they did totally destroy the dub but i mostly listen to stuff in the original language |
| 09:41.31 | phelps | oh yeah |
| 09:41.35 | Mr_Rabies | with few exceptions |
| 09:41.36 | phelps | how is supertrooper 2 doing |
| 09:41.52 | Mr_Rabies | probably 300% or more of its funding price |
| 09:41.53 | Mr_Rabies | lets see |
| 09:41.53 | phelps | https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/super-troopers-2 |
| 09:41.58 | karl_w_w | early access is just as bad |
| 09:42.07 | Mr_Rabies | 167% |
| 09:42.14 | phelps | but thats of 2m |
| 09:42.18 | karl_w_w | unless you're happy to buy the game as it is when you buy it |
| 09:42.20 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i only buy very early access in very specific circumstances |
| 09:42.37 | phelps | I've only ever pre-ordered WoW |
| 09:42.52 | karl_w_w | paying for early access based on what they say they want it to be is a mug's game |
| 09:43.06 | Mr_Rabies | 1) priced at less than $10 2) proven to be updating regularly 3) developer has released -something- in the past |
| 09:43.09 | Mr_Rabies | at least 2 of those |
| 09:43.11 | Mr_Rabies | if not all 3 |
| 09:43.47 | Mr_Rabies | i got Rust early and while i enjoyed it |
| 09:43.52 | Mr_Rabies | it's still far from a game like a year after |
| 09:43.57 | karl_w_w | -or- if the game is good enough and you don't expect it to get any better |
| 09:44.03 | phelps | someone got me Rust, it was terriblew |
| 09:44.05 | Mr_Rabies | i did get it for like $15 or something, though |
| 09:44.20 | Mr_Rabies | the trick to rust is to just kill everyone who sounds under about 30 on sight |
| 09:44.21 | phelps | all you could do was glue boards together and place fences |
| 09:44.23 | Mr_Rabies | and be nice to everyone else |
| 09:44.24 | karl_w_w | I don't see why anyone would enjoy rust |
| 09:44.27 | karl_w_w | or daisy |
| 09:44.32 | Mr_Rabies | rust is a lot of fun |
| 09:44.34 | Mr_Rabies | it's very tense |
| 09:44.37 | Mr_Rabies | it's buggy as hell |
| 09:44.46 | phelps | im guessing its more than a board placing sim now ? |
| 09:44.47 | Mr_Rabies | but it's really fun and a game with genuine fear elements |
| 09:44.53 | Mr_Rabies | it's always been way more than that |
| 09:45.01 | Mr_Rabies | have you never been held up at gunpoint in rust? |
| 09:45.05 | Mr_Rabies | or gunned down for your rock? |
| 09:45.09 | phelps | nope, guns didn't exist |
| 09:45.15 | Mr_Rabies | you must have played like |
| 09:45.18 | phelps | all you could do was place boards, no joke |
| 09:45.19 | Mr_Rabies | really, really really early |
| 09:45.21 | Mr_Rabies | like |
| 09:45.23 | Mr_Rabies | insanely so |
| 09:45.39 | phelps | no crafting, no ui, no health |
| 09:45.45 | phelps | no nothing, just boards |
| 09:45.47 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think i knew the game didn't have guns and i got it very shortly after steam sales started |
| 09:45.53 | Mr_Rabies | did you get it pre-open steam sales? |
| 09:45.55 | phelps | and 1 X type fence |
| 09:46.03 | phelps | idk, a friend gave me a rust key |
| 09:46.09 | Mr_Rabies | i mean |
| 09:46.11 | phelps | like 3 years ago |
| 09:46.14 | phelps | 2 or 3 years ago |
| 09:46.15 | Mr_Rabies | you don't get guns very easily |
| 09:46.24 | Mr_Rabies | they're tough to acquire early on |
| 09:46.31 | phelps | nah, we where playing on his server with commands |
| 09:46.33 | Mr_Rabies | especially if you don't have a group of friends to help fend off bandits |
| 09:46.46 | phelps | there was no way to get items |
| 09:46.58 | Mr_Rabies | that must have been like way before it was on steam at all |
| 09:47.14 | phelps | you could spawn some structural stuff |
| 09:47.30 | phelps | no I take that back, they had some guns but they did no damage |
| 09:47.33 | Mr_Rabies | crafting guns is a pretty big undertaking |
| 09:47.37 | phelps | and had no sound |
| 09:47.53 | phelps | let me see |
| 09:47.55 | Mr_Rabies | but usually after the first gun you can use your brain to get the second gun secondhand |
| 09:47.56 | Mr_Rabies | : |
| 09:47.57 | Mr_Rabies | :p |
| 09:48.01 | Mr_Rabies | but now they like |
| 09:48.07 | karl_w_w | and then somebody shoots you and it didn't matter :P |
| 09:48.11 | Mr_Rabies | remade it from scratch on a new unity engine and it's crazy |
| 09:48.27 | Mr_Rabies | it's still far from being a complete game but it's fun |
| 09:48.28 | phelps | 1/27/2014 was when I added the game to steam |
| 09:48.39 | phelps | but I played it well before that |
| 09:48.54 | Mr_Rabies | how do you see that date? |
| 09:49.15 | phelps | on the game page http://i.imgur.com/TXzfD1R.png |
| 09:49.29 | Mr_Rabies | ohh |
| 09:49.34 | Mr_Rabies | i have it installed so i don't see that |
| 09:49.35 | Mr_Rabies | :< |
| 09:49.45 | karl_w_w | yeah it says when you last played it |
| 09:49.46 | phelps | but I didn't buy it, was a gift key |
| 09:50.03 | Mr_Rabies | did it have zombies? |
| 09:50.08 | phelps | no |
| 09:50.09 | Mr_Rabies | i bought it right after they removed the zombies |
| 09:50.15 | Mr_Rabies | because Day Z clone |
| 09:50.20 | phelps | it really had nothing tbh |
| 09:50.31 | phelps | crafting didn't exist, thats for sure |
| 09:50.36 | Mr_Rabies | looks like zombies were removed feb 6 |
| 09:50.40 | Mr_Rabies | 2014 |
| 09:50.44 | Mr_Rabies | i bought it just after that |
| 09:50.46 | Mr_Rabies | maybe a week later |
| 09:50.58 | phelps | i remember that because of how stupid I thought it was, you couldn't even call it a "game" |
| 09:51.09 | phelps | and he was so excited about it... |
| 09:51.25 | karl_w_w | https://store.steampowered.com/account/store_transactions Mr_Rabies |
| 09:52.00 | Mr_Rabies | feb 14 |
| 09:52.03 | Mr_Rabies | 2014 |
| 09:52.11 | Mr_Rabies | is when i got it |
| 09:52.15 | phelps | it must have been added in jan then |
| 09:52.34 | phelps | I'll download it |
| 09:52.53 | Mr_Rabies | it's very different now from even when i clocked in my 200+ hours |
| 09:53.00 | Mr_Rabies | there's a big patch coming like next week |
| 09:53.05 | phelps | i hope steam can saturate my dl |
| 09:53.09 | Mr_Rabies | probably worth just waiting on that unless you have fast interwebs |
| 09:53.21 | Mr_Rabies | also the system requirements are a bit nuts right now |
| 09:53.27 | karl_w_w | it sounds like starbound is finally reaching some kind of maturity |
| 09:53.36 | karl_w_w | shame nobody cares anymore |
| 09:53.40 | Mr_Rabies | space engineers was totally worth it, but i did get it on a steam sale |
| 09:53.47 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 09:53.51 | Mr_Rabies | it updates every thursday, more or less |
| 09:53.54 | karl_w_w | that's my most updated game |
| 09:54.02 | phelps | http://i.imgur.com/wjbY4Ie.png |
| 09:54.07 | Mr_Rabies | and the updates are typically pretty substantial |
| 09:54.09 | phelps | steam dl is fast! |
| 09:54.13 | Mr_Rabies | man |
| 09:54.16 | Mr_Rabies | gief, phelps |
| 09:54.17 | Mr_Rabies | :< |
| 09:54.28 | Mr_Rabies | i pay $52 a month for 6 Mbit |
| 09:54.35 | Mr_Rabies | MegaBIT |
| 09:54.54 | karl_w_w | me too Mr_Rabies |
| 09:55.00 | karl_w_w | well $55 |
| 09:55.05 | Mr_Rabies | good ol' at&t |
| 09:55.20 | karl_w_w | that includes the phone line, but I don't use the phone line for anything else |
| 09:55.26 | Mr_Rabies | lol what is that icon on your steam up top phelps |
| 09:55.37 | Mr_Rabies | to the left of the invites thing |
| 09:55.42 | phelps | i have no fkin clue and its annoying |
| 09:55.44 | karl_w_w | it's his hentai collection |
| 09:55.48 | Mr_Rabies | oh, this is just for DSL |
| 09:55.51 | phelps | no its family protection |
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| 09:55.57 | phelps | but idk how it got on or how to turn it off |
| 09:55.59 | Mr_Rabies | the phones are like $30 ontop of that |
| 09:56.00 | phelps | http://i.imgur.com/xErE6T2.png |
| 09:56.06 | phelps | peaked at 12.6MB/s |
| 09:56.08 | Mr_Rabies | jesus |
| 09:56.17 | Mr_Rabies | can i live in your attic |
| 09:56.26 | Mr_Rabies | i probably won't bring any rodents with me |
| 09:56.40 | phelps | a squirl lives up there already |
| 09:56.48 | phelps | squirrel |
| 09:56.51 | phelps | squirrrrrrel |
| 09:57.14 | phelps | "Play Old Version" |
| 09:57.17 | phelps | was an option |
| 09:57.34 | karl_w_w | it's parental controls phelps |
| 09:57.41 | karl_w_w | my google fu is strong |
| 09:57.41 | phelps | how to turn off |
| 09:57.46 | karl_w_w | shrugs |
| 09:58.11 | Mr_Rabies | old version is the pre-remake version, phelps |
| 09:58.28 | phelps | so when I played it, it got 200+ fps |
| 09:58.31 | Mr_Rabies | it basically doesn't get updates anymore but is a more complete game, despite having fewer options in general |
| 09:58.32 | phelps | thats not the case now ? |
| 09:58.43 | Mr_Rabies | nah, they rebuilt it from the ground up, it looks great now |
| 09:58.54 | karl_w_w | settings -> family -> manage family view? |
| 09:59.28 | phelps | oh wow |
| 09:59.31 | Mr_Rabies | classic rust looks like this: http://cloud-4.steamusercontent.com/ugc/530637837916539607/3F6EC5A717F0FA3DCA85EAE1E46ECDF25DD635CF/ |
| 09:59.34 | phelps | yeah, this is not the game I played |
| 09:59.38 | phelps | not even close |
| 10:00.08 | Mr_Rabies | new rust looks like this http://cloud-2.steamusercontent.com/ugc/34115347329100653/2040386941B0FE42F8F42F4F05DEC852A87B25DB/ |
| 10:00.16 | Mr_Rabies | but uh |
| 10:00.19 | Mr_Rabies | that guy's moving lol |
| 10:00.19 | Mr_Rabies | dangit |
| 10:00.42 | karl_w_w | in before phelps was thinking of another game |
| 10:01.58 | Mr_Rabies | it's entirely possible his friend got it in the pre-steam release lottery |
| 10:02.28 | Mr_Rabies | they had a lottery with x key per y hours/minutes that slowly got more frequent until the official steam release |
| 10:02.43 | Mr_Rabies | and the price was a bid war up to $20 or something i think |
| 10:05.09 | phelps | it crashed |
| 10:05.17 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 10:05.44 | phelps | all 2 fps |
| 10:05.49 | Mr_Rabies | it's definitely still early access but i've yet to have the new version get very unstable |
| 10:05.58 | Mr_Rabies | protip press f2 ingame to access the video options |
| 10:06.11 | Mr_Rabies | like, in the game world |
| 10:07.03 | phelps | how much ram does it want, jesus |
| 10:07.29 | phelps | 6GB of ram... ok |
| 10:08.04 | Mr_Rabies | i'm still rocking 6GB |
| 10:08.11 | Mr_Rabies | i should probably upgrade but ehhhh |
| 10:08.59 | karl_w_w | can you even buy sticks less than 4gb now? :P |
| 10:11.09 | phelps | I need more ram :( |
| 10:11.11 | phelps | http://i.imgur.com/VTzrQv7.png |
| 10:12.40 | karl_w_w | ram is the only thing I don't need more of |
| 10:13.28 | karl_w_w | which is nice because I generally don't have to worry that I need to close shit if a game isn't performing well |
| 10:15.12 | Mr_Rabies | i've got 3x 2GB from way, way back when the i7 was new |
| 10:15.19 | Mr_Rabies | triple channel dawg |
| 10:16.53 | Mr_Rabies | of PC3-8500 :/ |
| 10:17.11 | Mr_Rabies | back before the i7s were unlocked at the last second |
| 10:17.34 | Mr_Rabies | mine was technically supposed to only support PC3-8500 but last second they were like "use everything!" |
| 10:17.45 | phelps | this is a business HP with a stupid i7 that only works on this mobo, slow sata, only 1 pci slot |
| 10:17.54 | phelps | 2 ram DIMMS |
| 10:17.56 | phelps | :( |
| 10:18.16 | Mr_Rabies | mine has uh |
| 10:18.17 | Mr_Rabies | 6 slots |
| 10:18.18 | phelps | and a GTX 650 TI |
| 10:18.40 | Mr_Rabies | http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-188-039-18.jpg |
| 10:18.54 | phelps | GTX 650 TI Boost |
| 10:19.05 | Mr_Rabies | i had a GTX 260 |
| 10:19.19 | Mr_Rabies | my friend gave me his old GTX 780 superclocked a few weeks ago |
| 10:19.22 | Mr_Rabies | D: |
| 10:20.28 | karl_w_w | I was foolish and/or hasty and got an i5 3470 1-2 months before refresh came out |
| 10:20.47 | karl_w_w | same story with my gpu |
| 10:21.13 | phelps | this is exactly what I have http://www.overstock.com/8361367/product.html |
| 10:21.38 | phelps | but it was $300 at the time and gotten with bitcoins |
| 10:21.48 | karl_w_w | prebuilts |
| 10:21.52 | karl_w_w | facepalms |
| 10:22.03 | phelps | core i7 for $300 tho |
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| 10:22.35 | phelps | and then a few weeks later newegg started taking bitcoin :( |
| 10:22.41 | Mr_Rabies | i got mine like, right when they lost |
| 10:22.43 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 10:22.45 | Mr_Rabies | dropped |
| 10:23.00 | Mr_Rabies | blah, when the i7s first released |
| 10:23.09 | Mr_Rabies | so the cpus were weirdly super cheap |
| 10:23.22 | phelps | btc was over $1k when I got that, so now its an even more amazing deal |
| 10:24.07 | Mr_Rabies | oh i guess not |
| 10:24.12 | Mr_Rabies | CPU was $300, board was $300 |
| 10:24.31 | zenzelezz | $300 board? o_O |
| 10:24.38 | phelps | I'll build a haswell-e system soon |
| 10:24.47 | Mr_Rabies | board's still kicking 6 years later :p |
| 10:24.58 | Mr_Rabies | that was about the cheapest you could get i7 boards for at the time |
| 10:25.18 | zenzelezz | was the i7 on a new socket or something? |
| 10:25.20 | Mr_Rabies | they were all super crazy SLI boards and stuff |
| 10:25.22 | Mr_Rabies | yup |
| 10:25.28 | zenzelezz | aha, makes sense then |
| 10:25.36 | Mr_Rabies | it was right when the lga 1366 launched |
| 10:25.37 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188039 |
| 10:27.15 | zenzelezz | I haven't been sticking to any single motherboard manufacturer for some time now |
| 10:27.37 | zenzelezz | think I use an Asus now; but whatever brand it is, I'll probably buy a different brand next time. The onboard mic port was busted |
| 10:27.52 | phelps | I'll pick a haswell-e build that is know to work with hackintosh I think |
| 10:28.14 | Mr_Rabies | i'll never use asus boards |
| 10:28.32 | Mr_Rabies | saw way too many asus boards with the same issues |
| 10:28.33 | phelps | honsetly, using cloud9 for web dev, maybe I don't need OS X |
| 10:28.52 | Mr_Rabies | massive ram compatibility issues, components randomly breaking after a year or less |
| 10:29.04 | zenzelezz | next time I build a new system, I'll have to actually do some reading on motherboard brands |
| 10:29.15 | zenzelezz | last time I was comfortable with a single brand was when Epox was still kicking |
| 10:29.29 | Mr_Rabies | it's been a while since i've looked, the computer shop closed so i stopped really caring |
| 10:29.32 | Mr_Rabies | man, i miss old epox |
| 10:29.35 | Mr_Rabies | back in the uh |
| 10:29.41 | Mr_Rabies | gosh what was that board |
| 10:30.34 | Mr_Rabies | they had one board that was so insanely solid |
| 10:30.49 | Mr_Rabies | back in the athlon xp/amd64 days |
| 10:31.08 | Mr_Rabies | when amd was a viable option (though in hindsight intel pcs lasted a LOT longer) |
| 10:31.45 | zenzelezz | aye |
| 10:32.48 | Mr_Rabies | that was when i built my first pc |
| 10:32.56 | Mr_Rabies | it lasted a good 5 years, then i bought my i7 |
| 10:33.05 | Mr_Rabies | and i've had it for over 6 :v |
| 10:33.21 | Mr_Rabies | probably time for me to replace my PSU at the least |
| 10:33.27 | Mr_Rabies | 5 years is about the limit |
| 10:33.28 | zenzelezz | think the first computer I built was when the Riva TNT was a thing |
| 10:33.48 | Mr_Rabies | i bought a TNT2 back in the day, but i put it in my old Dell pc |
| 10:33.54 | Mr_Rabies | i worked on my own, but didn't build it |
| 10:34.08 | Mr_Rabies | later got a Geforce 4 4600 in it, that thing was baller |
| 10:34.26 | Mr_Rabies | then i knocked a capacitor off it it trying to remove it to replace the heatsink |
| 10:34.31 | Mr_Rabies | strangely still worked |
| 10:34.40 | zenzelezz | the Geforce was such a revolution when it was released |
| 10:34.50 | nevcairiel | that happened to me once on some old graphics card, didnt work anymore though : ( |
| 10:35.07 | zenzelezz | bought a Radeon 9800 Pro when it was brand new; lasted me a very long time |
| 10:35.17 | zenzelezz | granted it wasn't top notch for the last couple, it was still decent enough |
| 10:36.38 | Mr_Rabies | 9800 pro was a boss back in the day |
| 10:36.50 | Mr_Rabies | probably the last truly great ati card |
| 10:38.01 | zenzelezz | I wonder to what degree being bought out by AMD helped (or worsened) things for Radeon |
| 10:38.08 | zenzelezz | they were already struggling |
| 10:38.24 | nevcairiel | they still are |
| 10:38.33 | nevcairiel | and now there are rumors that Samsung might buy AMD as a whole |
| 10:38.43 | zenzelezz | oh man |
| 10:39.25 | Mr_Rabies | all it did was basically curse AMD too |
| 10:39.45 | Mr_Rabies | amd's peak was basiaclly right before buying ATi |
| 10:39.59 | nevcairiel | AMD lost the CPU market a long time ago, and their share of the GPU market is shrinking too |
| 10:40.03 | zenzelezz | I remember this article; was quite a good read: http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/04/amd-on-ropes-from-the-top-of-the-mountain-to-the-deepest-valleys/ |
| 10:40.22 | Mr_Rabies | as much as i love samsung components they make the intel-nvidia collusion look good |
| 10:40.50 | nevcairiel | AMD only ever managed to rise because the P4 was so bad |
| 10:41.11 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 10:41.21 | Mr_Rabies | the P4 was great, just not a good deal |
| 10:41.37 | Mr_Rabies | the 3.0+ Ghz ones with hyperthreading lasted well into 2010 or so and worked fine |
| 10:41.39 | nevcairiel | it had reliability problems from day 1, not to mention heat and power consumption |
| 10:41.42 | zenzelezz | AMD won some publicity by beating Intel to 1 GHz (but the quality of it is arguable) |
| 10:42.03 | Mr_Rabies | the problem was the p4 ran such a huge gamut |
| 10:42.12 | Mr_Rabies | the low-end P4s were barely above celeron |
| 10:42.59 | Mr_Rabies | thing was, the athlon xp's were way better bang for the buck regularly |
| 10:43.06 | Mr_Rabies | however, they were basically icarus in cpu form |
| 10:43.17 | Mr_Rabies | and typically bogged down by nightmare chipsets |
| 10:43.22 | nevcairiel | NetBurst was just a dead-end for Intel, and it took them a while to get to the Core architecture to regain their footing, in that time AMD pushed ahead .. but ever since Core, Intel dominated |
| 10:43.26 | Mr_Rabies | remember the nightmare that was the via chipset? |
| 10:44.00 | Mr_Rabies | amd's really big jump was amd64 |
| 10:44.07 | Mr_Rabies | intel still had the p4s with hyperthreading then |
| 10:44.15 | Mr_Rabies | and the high end ones could compete, but only barely |
| 10:44.21 | Mr_Rabies | and were a LOT more expensive |
| 10:44.55 | Mr_Rabies | nforce saved amd, i think |
| 10:44.57 | nevcairiel | Probably didnt help that with Core Intel started the tick-tock system, which was a much more aggressive development cycle than they had before |
| 10:45.26 | Mr_Rabies | nforce drivers finally fixed the nightmare that were amd chipsets, and then amd bought their competition in the video card market :p |
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| 10:45.52 | Mr_Rabies | intel's basically coasting easy now |
| 10:46.07 | Mr_Rabies | the jumps since my 6 year old cpu are fairly minor, all told |
| 10:46.25 | Mr_Rabies | maybe 25-30% increase in practice |
| 10:46.29 | nevcairiel | Intel has been focusing on power efficiency and whatnot for the last couple years because they are just way ahead in performance already |
| 10:46.32 | Mr_Rabies | on paper considerably more |
| 10:47.07 | Mr_Rabies | kind of depressing that we basically hit another power cap, but this one being artificial |
| 10:47.12 | nevcairiel | and thats not really a bad thing, their x86 tablet CPUs are quite powerful little buggers |
| 10:47.24 | Mr_Rabies | people want smaller, lighter, cooler pcs, not faster ones |
| 10:47.39 | Mr_Rabies | which will help intel in the long run |
| 10:47.50 | Fisker | I want both |
| 10:48.03 | Mr_Rabies | but seeing the race just basically stop because AMD's been crawling on broken legs for like a decade |
| 10:48.03 | nevcairiel | for gaming, at this time we dont really need much more CPU power though, its the GPUs that still need to grow for 4K gaming and such |
| 10:48.22 | Mr_Rabies | direct3d 12 is supposed to be a really, really big deal |
| 10:48.33 | Mr_Rabies | for GPUs |
| 10:48.34 | phelps | they have to make sure the heat of next nm stage procs can be handled |
| 10:48.35 | Mr_Rabies | a total game-changer |
| 10:48.36 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 10:48.37 | nevcairiel | if the games use it properly, sure |
| 10:48.37 | bluspacecow | wat |
| 10:49.06 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 10:49.24 | bluspacecow | it's windows 10 only and you need an SM5.0 GPU to make it work don't you ? |
| 10:49.25 | nevcairiel | but luckily all GPUs from like the last 4 years will support DX12 |
| 10:49.37 | bluspacecow | i see. |
| 10:49.51 | nevcairiel | for nvidia its fermi onwards, so 400 and up |
| 10:50.22 | nevcairiel | for AMD its all GCN cards, 7000/200 and up |
| 10:51.18 | Fisker | some of it anyway |
| 10:51.25 | nevcairiel | the important parts |
| 10:51.38 | Mr_Rabies | it is a blog, but http://www.anandtech.com/show/8962/the-directx-12-performance-preview-amd-nvidia-star-swarm/5 |
| 10:51.53 | Fisker | I wish UPS would support my monitor fetish |
| 10:52.08 | nevcairiel | Intel supports DX12 on Haswell and newer, not like anyone cares about iGPU :P |
| 10:53.04 | Mr_Rabies | seeing existing hardware get that big of a boost in some situations is promising |
| 10:53.19 | Mr_Rabies | new hardware might be a total pardigm shift |
| 10:53.27 | bluspacecow | i could be wrong on the windows 10 only thing. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/directx/archive/2014/10/01/directx-12-and-windows-10.aspx Tells me it comes with Windows 10 not that it's exclusive to Windows 10 |
| 10:53.36 | nevcairiel | its win10 only |
| 10:53.41 | bluspacecow | oh ? |
| 10:53.43 | nevcairiel | it requires WDDM 2.0, which is only Windows 10 |
| 10:53.44 | bluspacecow | ok :) |
| 10:53.59 | Mr_Rabies | as much as i hate windows 8 and wil likely dislike 10, a free upgrade ain't too shabby |
| 10:54.06 | nevcairiel | but win10 is a free upgrade from any windows 7, 8 or 8.1 |
| 10:54.57 | nevcairiel | even illegal copies of windows are supposed to get a free win10 upgrade |
| 10:55.22 | Fisker | nope |
| 10:55.22 | Mr_Rabies | i really hope people stop using apple as an example on how to do things |
| 10:55.53 | Mr_Rabies | i'm afraid it might actually kill microsoft if they don't pull out of the nosedive :( |
| 10:55.58 | Fisker | Tell them to get back to you if it turns out the Windows after Windows 10 isn't free on Surface Pro |
| 10:56.23 | nevcairiel | Fisker: technically yes, you can upgrade an illegal windows to windows 10, but its still illegal afterwards, they dont give you a license :p |
| 10:56.29 | Fisker | Yes |
| 10:56.35 | Mr_Rabies | tying almost everything new in the OS to a single account is a nightmare |
| 10:56.36 | Fisker | Which is the same as windows 8 -> windows 1 |
| 10:56.37 | Fisker | er |
| 10:56.38 | Fisker | 8.1 |
| 10:56.44 | Mr_Rabies | especially a damned hotmail account |
| 10:57.12 | Mr_Rabies | i like microsoft but they've felt especially misguided since vista |
| 10:57.19 | nevcairiel | you dont need to use a hotmail account |
| 10:57.26 | nevcairiel | you can reg any mail as your MS account |
| 10:57.47 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but it's essentially a hotmail account |
| 10:57.47 | Fisker | Don't even need a MS account either, at least not with 8 or 8.1 |
| 10:57.50 | nevcairiel | .. or you can just use a local account |
| 10:57.55 | bluspacecow | *attempts to log into wowpedia* |
| 10:58.02 | bluspacecow | *attempts to log into Curse* |
| 10:58.06 | bluspacecow | *can't remember password* |
| 10:58.10 | bluspacecow | *keyboard cats* |
| 10:58.22 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, but you miss a lot if you use a local account |
| 10:58.43 | Mr_Rabies | even some OS updates are delivered through the store, which requires a MS account |
| 10:58.43 | nevcairiel | like what? |
| 10:58.49 | Fisker | Because they're logically dependent on it |
| 10:58.51 | Mr_Rabies | that's really why they're giving out Win10 for free |
| 10:59.10 | nevcairiel | you cant complain that you dont get settings sync through skydrive if you refuse to sign up for skydrive :p |
| 10:59.14 | Mr_Rabies | to get as many people in the ms -ecosystem- |
| 10:59.18 | nevcairiel | or onedrive or how its called now |
| 10:59.20 | Mr_Rabies | nah but like |
| 10:59.29 | Mr_Rabies | you can't get 8.1 without a ms account |
| 10:59.38 | Mr_Rabies | on a pc running 8 |
| 10:59.41 | Fisker | As I recall the store can be signed into without converting your local account to an online one |
| 11:00.03 | nevcairiel | Mr_Rabies: they offer a downloader tool independet of the store |
| 11:00.16 | Mr_Rabies | they didn't when i checked before, that must be newer :o |
| 11:00.26 | Mr_Rabies | if they've permanently reversed that, i'm happy |
| 11:00.33 | Mr_Rabies | i don't like app stores, really |
| 11:00.39 | nevcairiel | the tool is somewhat new |
| 11:01.07 | nevcairiel | http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media |
| 11:01.22 | Mr_Rabies | steam gets an exception to an extent because valve's pretty legit so far and it's also OS-agnostic to some degree |
| 11:01.51 | Mr_Rabies | if you swap to linux or OSX you don't have to rebuy stuff in 99% of cases |
| 11:02.05 | nevcairiel | except that many games flat out dont work :p |
| 11:02.22 | Mr_Rabies | well yeah but if they do |
| 11:02.30 | Mr_Rabies | almost all of them can be used cross-platform |
| 11:02.36 | Mr_Rabies | but like |
| 11:02.47 | Mr_Rabies | if i swap my iphone to an android phone, i've gotta rebuy stuff |
| 11:03.00 | Mr_Rabies | and again if i swap that one for another OS |
| 11:03.17 | Mr_Rabies | we're still so, so far until digital licensing makes any kind of sense |
| 11:03.49 | Mr_Rabies | it's so very anti-consumer right now that it's still usually easier to just pirate many things |
| 11:04.25 | Mr_Rabies | if i could pirate photoshop i totally would, but instead i just get angry at GIMP for being terrible everytime i fire it up |
| 11:05.18 | Mr_Rabies | if i used it professionally i might use creative cloud but the fact that at any point they could revoke my photoshop access is a bit terrifying |
| 11:07.18 | Mr_Rabies | i'd love to just be able to buy like, CS6 for like $100 or something sane but because it's technically a professional tool its nutso :( |
| 11:08.22 | foxlit | a lot of your problems seem to come down to "I don't want to pay as much" |
| 11:08.39 | Mr_Rabies | i mean yeah, that's a big deal |
| 11:09.16 | Mr_Rabies | value is important and failing to yield to consumer demand basically means the consumer will get it for free instead |
| 11:09.47 | Mr_Rabies | creative cloud sounds like a good deal but it's already had weird downtime issues, etc |
| 11:10.20 | Mr_Rabies | the only reason i haven't pirated photoshop yet is because it's like, the most common thing to have a malware payload attached other than pirated oses and pirated antivirus software |
| 11:10.58 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather pay for it and get it legit, but their pricing model makes no sense to me |
| 11:11.12 | Mr_Rabies | so instead i'm currently trying to do without it |
| 11:12.02 | Mr_Rabies | if i was making money with photoshop it'd be one thing, but since it's mostly used for making dank memes and random stuff for my guild website, i'm trying to do without |
| 11:14.01 | phelps | Mr_Rabies, https://kickass.to/usearch/ChingLiu/ |
| 11:14.06 | phelps | his releases are clean |
| 11:15.00 | Mr_Rabies | may try to get my friend with a vpn to grab that for me :v |
| 11:15.22 | phelps | I can snatch it on a vps and give you a http link if you want |
| 11:16.10 | Mr_Rabies | not a big deal |
| 11:16.35 | Mr_Rabies | i don't really want to resort to having someone random pirate stuff for me lol :v |
| 11:16.40 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 11:16.51 | Mr_Rabies | "random" being someone i don't know irl :p |
| 11:17.25 | Mr_Rabies | i may just grab it from him via sneakernet next time i get a chance |
| 11:18.20 | Sintacks | my car has 17,200 miles on it. i've only spent $130 in gas on it.. (about 1100 of the 17k miles) |
| 11:18.24 | Sintacks | that's pretty awesome |
| 11:18.38 | Sintacks | the rest is paid by work |
| 11:19.15 | Mr_Rabies | i need a new vehicle so bad |
| 11:19.20 | Mr_Rabies | 8 mpg ;_____________; |
| 11:19.27 | Mr_Rabies | 8-10 depending on things |
| 11:20.09 | Mr_Rabies | i live about 30 minutes from anything so driving is usually $5-10 before i've even done anything |
| 11:20.52 | Mr_Rabies | i was spending $100 a week on gas at one point, driving 5 days a week |
| 11:21.24 | Mr_Rabies | basically only to and from work each day |
| 11:22.23 | phelps | Honda SH150i 95mpg+ |
| 11:22.46 | phelps | $3 lasts over 100 miles |
| 11:23.03 | Mr_Rabies | by chance have you been watching the flash, phelps |
| 11:23.22 | phelps | I started but haven't seen past ep 6 or so |
| 11:23.30 | Mr_Rabies | there's a certain device a certain someone used in the latest episode, i want to use it on you so i get your sweet internet and car |
| 11:23.49 | phelps | car, lol |
| 11:23.57 | Mr_Rabies | (it's basically some kind of mind/body swapper/stealer or something |
| 11:23.59 | phelps | much much less than a car |
| 11:24.05 | Mr_Rabies | oh |
| 11:24.09 | Mr_Rabies | a motorcycle |
| 11:24.11 | phelps | yeah, I should watch some again |
| 11:24.16 | Mr_Rabies | well just be an organ donor i might get to anyway |
| 11:24.23 | Mr_Rabies | :v |
| 11:24.29 | phelps | donorcycle |
| 11:24.38 | phelps | DL ius 92% |
| 11:25.13 | Mr_Rabies | i love the idea of motorcycles, bikes, etc but i don't even like driving around other drivers when i'm encased in a metal frame with a metal body ontop of that |
| 11:25.46 | Mr_Rabies | seems just needlessly reckless to me |
| 11:26.26 | phelps | I'm blind in my left eye, driving a car is even worse for me |
| 11:26.50 | phelps | since I can't really look to my left, I have to turn my whole body |
| 11:26.55 | Mr_Rabies | i wish somehow we could have a seperate road system entirely for bicycles and to a lesser extent motorcycles (on their own, not the bike one) |
| 11:27.37 | Mr_Rabies | because as an idea they're great but in practice just don't really work in a world where cars exist and are on the same road system |
| 11:28.08 | phelps | well, my state allows lane splitting, so I can drive between lanes legally |
| 11:28.45 | Mr_Rabies | phew |
| 11:28.46 | Mr_Rabies | no thanks |
| 11:28.55 | Mr_Rabies | that's even more dangerous |
| 11:29.13 | Mr_Rabies | you've got far more trust in the other motorists than i ever will have |
| 11:29.27 | phelps | or I'm just stupid |
| 11:34.08 | karl_w_w | Mr_Rabies, katproxy.com? |
| 11:35.02 | bluspacecow | meow meow ? |
| 11:35.13 | Mr_Rabies | i proxy'd a cat once |
| 11:35.13 | karl_w_w | me oww |
| 11:35.16 | Mr_Rabies | got a corgi out of the deal |
| 11:35.18 | Mr_Rabies | worth it |
| 11:35.25 | phelps | karl_w_w, nah, its the anti-piracy companies that watch DLs and record IPs |
| 11:35.32 | phelps | then send out C&Ds |
| 11:35.42 | karl_w_w | which mean diddly |
| 11:35.56 | phelps | most smaller ISPs will honor them |
| 11:36.05 | phelps | my does 3 letters then no service for 6 months |
| 11:36.11 | phelps | SuddenLink |
| 11:36.26 | Mr_Rabies | suddenly internet, it came outta nowhere |
| 11:36.41 | phelps | only huge ISPs like comcast or timewarner ignore those |
| 11:37.15 | Mr_Rabies | comcast definitely doesn't ignore them |
| 11:37.20 | Mr_Rabies | they pass the anger onto yoooooooooou |
| 11:37.30 | phelps | but will they cut your service ? |
| 11:37.36 | Mr_Rabies | think so, yeah |
| 11:37.45 | phelps | yeah, so it def. does matter for a lot of people |
| 11:37.55 | karl_w_w | http://torrentfreak.com/cox-refuses-to-reveal-financials-in-promiment-piracy-case-150327/ on the subject |
| 11:38.16 | phelps | when my server was cut off it was Cox, but has since changed to SuddenLink |
| 11:38.23 | phelps | and I'm 2/3 with SuddenLink |
| 11:38.45 | phelps | *service |
| 11:38.50 | Mr_Rabies | in the US that's a mess because most places outside of large cities only have one 1 ISP choice |
| 11:38.58 | phelps | < |
| 11:39.22 | Mr_Rabies | i've never gotten one, but i mostly download unlicensed anime |
| 11:39.26 | phelps | I can't even get DSL here |
| 11:39.35 | Mr_Rabies | stuff that'll never ever get licensed, generally |
| 11:39.40 | phelps | music, movies and shows I have private trackers |
| 11:39.45 | karl_w_w | the best way to download anime is irc |
| 11:39.46 | Mr_Rabies | still better than japan |
| 11:39.47 | karl_w_w | by far |
| 11:39.52 | phelps | nothing for software or games |
| 11:39.56 | Mr_Rabies | they get thrown into jail for sharing shows on p2p |
| 11:39.57 | Mr_Rabies | :v |
| 11:40.19 | Mr_Rabies | honestly i use nyaa, karl_w_w |
| 11:40.23 | phelps | Laravel or Symfony ? |
| 11:40.24 | karl_w_w | but dont tell everyone cos if they find out it wont be the best anymore :P |
| 11:40.28 | Mr_Rabies | irc is better but DCC is kind of a mess |
| 11:40.49 | karl_w_w | hexchat is pretty flawless in my experience |
| 11:41.09 | phelps | I want a really good web client :| |
| 11:41.16 | Mr_Rabies | i'm running through a bouncer so i think dcc is basically just dead |
| 11:41.20 | Mr_Rabies | for me |
| 11:41.25 | Mr_Rabies | but that's fine, nyaa works well |
| 11:41.41 | phelps | how about that Limewire, I hear its the best |
| 11:41.47 | karl_w_w | i wonder if you could get dcc to go direct |
| 11:42.03 | phelps | http://wiki.znc.in/Dcc |
| 11:42.06 | Mr_Rabies | i think this bouncer might have dcc passthrough |
| 11:42.10 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, it's znc |
| 11:42.12 | phelps | doesn't look like it |
| 11:42.12 | Mr_Rabies | but :effort: |
| 11:42.17 | Mr_Rabies | i like torrents |
| 11:42.18 | phelps | to and from znc ? |
| 11:42.28 | karl_w_w | i hate torrents :P |
| 11:42.52 | phelps | from security pov, they're the worst |
| 11:42.52 | Mr_Rabies | if i'm watching a current show i just add the rss feed to utorrent and i'm good to go |
| 11:43.13 | phelps | utorrent from 5 years ago ? |
| 11:43.19 | phelps | BitTorrent killed utorrent |
| 11:43.25 | phelps | its so trash now :( |
| 11:43.34 | Mr_Rabies | i use 3.3.1 with a lot of features removed |
| 11:43.46 | phelps | its pretty much adware at this point |
| 11:43.48 | Mr_Rabies | you can clean it up to 2.x level with the 3.x level feature improvements |
| 11:44.01 | karl_w_w | ah it's pretty much adware, that old one |
| 11:44.05 | Mr_Rabies | only if you let it do the offer stuff |
| 11:44.07 | karl_w_w | utorrent is fine |
| 11:44.21 | Mr_Rabies | i've disabled the offers, comments, ratings, etc |
| 11:44.37 | phelps | I get plastered with ads and it asks me to install toolbars, fuck right off |
| 11:44.41 | Mr_Rabies | i just couldn't find anything that uses all the features of utorrent that i use |
| 11:44.44 | karl_w_w | it's only a problem if you close your eyes and click yes, yes, ok, i agree etc when installing it |
| 11:44.53 | Mr_Rabies | i just tell it "nope" and it doesn't install them |
| 11:45.05 | phelps | the fact its even an option makes it shady and I don't like that |
| 11:45.14 | Mr_Rabies | (and nod32 strips them out from even being downloaded) |
| 11:45.17 | karl_w_w | they have staff to pay |
| 11:45.29 | karl_w_w | that's not shady |
| 11:45.38 | phelps | then what the fk was the whole utorrent web stuff |
| 11:45.44 | phelps | that people paid for |
| 11:45.58 | Mr_Rabies | unfortunately that's the nature of free software, as long as it's easy enough to decline it's fine |
| 11:46.12 | karl_w_w | you're a poet Mr_Rabies! |
| 11:46.39 | phelps | yeah, they offer utorrent pro, why all the adware still |
| 11:47.08 | Mr_Rabies | probably because only the mentally unfit subscribe to utorrent pro |
| 11:47.09 | phelps | nope, I'll stick to Transmission |
| 11:47.33 | Maldivia | utorrent was great... now it's the biggest piece of trash... |
| 11:47.41 | phelps | thank you Maldivia |
| 11:47.47 | Mr_Rabies | transmission is so bad that i'd rather dodge an ad minefield than run it |
| 11:47.54 | karl_w_w | ^ |
| 11:48.06 | phelps | works great for me, low memory usage and its fast |
| 11:48.11 | karl_w_w | I've switched to qbittorrent from utorrent and it's almost identical |
| 11:48.13 | phelps | web interface is pretty nice as well |
| 11:48.25 | Mr_Rabies | no rss support, last time i checked you couldn't even select multiple torrents and act on them at once |
| 11:48.33 | Mr_Rabies | also it's ugly as sin :v |
| 11:49.12 | Mr_Rabies | qbittorrent seems somewhat promising |
| 11:49.19 | Mr_Rabies | i need to look into its rss stuff |
| 11:49.34 | phelps | I use this http://tvshowsapp.com/ |
| 11:49.38 | nevcairiel | I use Transmission-Daemon through the web interface exclusively, works perfectly for me, including multi select |
| 11:49.51 | phelps | Transmission watches a folder it downloads the torrent to |
| 11:50.29 | Mr_Rabies | if i was you i'd probably look into usenet stuff but it's still kind of a labyrinth |
| 11:50.36 | Mr_Rabies | and software is right out |
| 11:50.44 | phelps | I tried usenet and it was a total waste of $30 |
| 11:50.48 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/2YXyvbf.png Mr_Rabies |
| 11:50.51 | Maldivia | the mac client of utorrent is still ok though |
| 11:51.20 | phelps | there are no good windows clients imo |
| 11:51.32 | karl_w_w | utorrent is good |
| 11:51.34 | phelps | I just want transmission to work on windows as well as it does on osx |
| 11:51.43 | karl_w_w | it's the only one that does everything and doesnt run like shit |
| 11:52.09 | Mr_Rabies | utorrent works great for me but you do have to tweak a lot, and i haven't installed anything past 3.3.1 |
| 11:52.19 | nevcairiel | I don't care for the transmission GUI, its just so much easier to run it in daemon on my Linux server box and control it through web |
| 11:52.19 | Mr_Rabies | since one of my trackers only allows up to that :x |
| 11:52.35 | karl_w_w | only things missing from qbittorrent are the option to not put things in a subfolder, and seperate pause & stop functions |
| 11:52.46 | nevcairiel | In fact, I wouldn't want any desktop GUI torrent client anymore |
| 11:52.57 | Mr_Rabies | frankly i don't really know what the difference between pause and stop are for utorrent |
| 11:53.01 | Mr_Rabies | i've never quite gottent hat |
| 11:53.06 | phelps | the fk is this... http://i.imgur.com/XX6pkc4.jpg |
| 11:53.07 | karl_w_w | pause keeps the torrent live |
| 11:53.09 | phelps | that isn't utorrent :| |
| 11:53.16 | karl_w_w | so you don't lose peers |
| 11:53.30 | phelps | http://i.imgur.com/R3rkEdy.png look at that |
| 11:53.31 | phelps | what is that |
| 11:53.32 | karl_w_w | but it keeps the file open on your hard drive |
| 11:53.49 | Mr_Rabies | mine basically looks like this http://screenshots.en.sftcdn.net/en/scrn/43000/43961/utorrent-utorrent-06-700x510.jpg |
| 11:53.57 | Mr_Rabies | though |
| 11:54.07 | nevcairiel | It just stops data transfer,but doesn't terminate anything else |
| 11:54.07 | Mr_Rabies | the whole left thing is disabled |
| 11:54.09 | bluspacecow | @phelps dat russian bride butt |
| 11:54.42 | phelps | yeah, this just enforced my opinion on utorrent, its even worse now than it was last time |
| 11:54.48 | karl_w_w | yeah, qbittorrent doesnt have what utorrent calls pause |
| 11:54.54 | karl_w_w | you press pause and it stops |
| 11:55.55 | phelps | holy shit, I get splash screens for utorrent pro |
| 11:56.17 | Maldivia | and what's with the facebook and twitter stuff ? |
| 11:56.47 | phelps | its adware, its adware with a sliver of what utorrent used to be |
| 11:57.15 | Maldivia | do people really want their torrent client to post "I just finished downloading XXX in 10 minutes using uTorrent" posts on their facebook/twitter? |
| 11:57.26 | karl_w_w | so because there are ads on it, which can be turned off, the rest of utorrent's functionality is diminished? |
| 11:59.44 | phelps | and how do I disable ads |
| 11:59.44 | nebula169 | i still use 2.2.1 |
| 11:59.47 | phelps | I see no UI option |
| 12:00.02 | nebula169 | it's in settings, can turn off all of the nagging stuff |
| 12:00.43 | bluspacecow | but-but-but |
| 12:00.46 | bluspacecow | dat ass tho phelps |
| 12:00.48 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 12:01.15 | phelps | now its badly photoshoped tits |
| 12:01.16 | phelps | http://i.imgur.com/nezPICE.png |
| 12:01.23 | phelps | damn |
| 12:01.30 | phelps | it must have refreshed ads right as I took the ss |
| 12:01.42 | phelps | well, they used the warp tool, it was pretty funny |
| 12:01.44 | karl_w_w | bleach confirmed titty show |
| 12:01.53 | nebula169 | erm, it's in advanced* |
| 12:02.37 | phelps | http://i.imgur.com/egNgBGo.png |
| 12:02.48 | phelps | YEAH THATS TOTALLY NOT SHADY |
| 12:03.02 | nebula169 | shady? it's how it's always been |
| 12:03.07 | phelps | autoexec ? |
| 12:03.11 | nebula169 | since they first added ads |
| 12:03.22 | phelps | pff.. its trash |
| 12:03.45 | karl_w_w | yeah, I don't approve of their variable names either |
| 12:04.14 | phelps | its there because auto running something from offers was an idea or actually happened at some point |
| 12:04.23 | phelps | it just lets you know how low they'll stoop |
| 12:04.46 | nebula169 | lol. |
| 12:05.20 | phelps | idk how anyone could be ok with that |
| 12:05.25 | karl_w_w | how is something supposed to appear on your screen without there being some code execution? |
| 12:09.48 | phelps | I don't want it running any external software without me explicitly asking it to |
| 12:09.59 | phelps | and it has a url and autoexec config var for it |
| 12:10.40 | karl_w_w | well, firstly you're jumping to conclusions |
| 12:10.52 | karl_w_w | and secondly, it doesn't make any difference even if it is doing that |
| 12:11.12 | karl_w_w | it's not like it's open source, you don't what any of its code is doing external or not |
| 12:13.03 | phelps | its content_offer, which is also what all the other ads are under |
| 12:13.47 | phelps | offers = ads, ads.content_offer_autoexec |
| 12:13.56 | phelps | honestly, you know what thats for |
| 12:15.18 | phelps | nah, I just can't do that, I got the ads off, still wants me to upgrade to pro every 3 min |
| 12:15.36 | phelps | its dead to me now |
| 12:16.29 | phelps | so many web frameworks have content in routes... why |
| 12:16.49 | phelps | sails.js, content in routes :| |
| 12:36.19 | bluspacecow | .... |
| 12:36.25 | bluspacecow | IRC still going ! |
| 12:36.35 | karl_w_w | IRC never ends |
| 12:36.39 | bluspacecow | (work lieky block IRC webchat) |
| 12:36.43 | karl_w_w | until freenode gets DDOSed |
| 12:36.55 | bluspacecow | lol DDOS |
| 12:38.21 | bluspacecow | https://html5test.com/ |
| 12:38.31 | bluspacecow | IE10 = 113 xd |
| 12:38.37 | bluspacecow | XD |
| 12:39.00 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 12:39.03 | bluspacecow | IE9 sorry |
| 12:40.15 | phelps | http://weather.phelps.io/ |
| 12:40.19 | phelps | FINALLY! |
| 12:46.30 | bluspacecow | Does not do NZ |
| 12:53.18 | nevcairiel | No one does NZ |
| 12:55.51 | bluspacecow | lol |
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| 12:56.39 | p3lim | phelps: why are you even using utorrent? |
| 12:56.57 | phelps | im not, i just wanted to make sure that it was still shit, and it is |
| 12:57.08 | phelps | I use utorrent on a osx server, and use the web UI from there |
| 12:57.10 | p3lim | was there ever doubt? |
| 12:57.15 | phelps | it downloads to a NAS |
| 12:57.26 | phelps | well, its just gotten worse, which is what I was wondering |
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| 13:25.43 | fewyn | i use deluge |
| 13:25.54 | fewyn | much better torrent client imo |
| 13:31.41 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow, pale moon = 412 |
| 13:32.06 | karl_w_w | i wonder what i have turned off |
| 14:29.04 | karl_w_w | so I removed this person from my steam friends, but he's still there |
| 14:29.23 | karl_w_w | ah, cos I had to unblock him |
| 14:29.39 | zenzelezz | ,03 |
| 14:29.48 | zenzelezz | oops |
| 14:30.08 | karl_w_w | I bet! |
| 14:42.09 | zenzelezz | there should be prison sentences for making long cut-scenes/conversations before combats where you can't save in-between |
| 14:42.16 | zenzelezz | "here's 10 minutes of chat, now die and repeat" |
| 14:56.46 | Semlar | no, neffi |
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| 15:03.02 | d[karl]b | I thought they'd learnt not to do that zenzelezz |
| 15:11.47 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: apparently Pillars of Eternity didn't |
| 15:11.52 | zenzelezz | hopefully it was only a single occurence |
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| 15:39.34 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/cPLmaSj.gif |
| 15:47.03 | karl_w_w | man youtube is being super useless today |
| 15:47.22 | karl_w_w | it'll take 5 minutes for a video to start playing, then it'll only load the first minute |
| 15:47.42 | karl_w_w | I guess it's some CDN problem |
| 15:54.59 | karl_w_w | or it's the wiretap interfering with my tcp sessions |
| 16:07.37 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: either CDN or regional; I've been watching stuff for eight ours without a hitch |
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| 17:46.25 | fewyn | man holiday meals always smell so good... kitchen is making the whole house smell delicious |
| 18:33.48 | Constie | Tip: You can also accomplish this on regular days by baking bread. |
| 18:38.56 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: lol, silly kitty |
| 18:39.50 | fewyn | Constie: surprise, i am baking bread :D |
| 18:40.05 | fewyn | along with a ham in the slow cooker (with brown sugar and pineapple juice) |
| 18:40.08 | fewyn | deviled eggs |
| 18:40.11 | fewyn | and mashed taters |
| 18:44.44 | bluspacecow | (!) |
| 18:44.49 | bluspacecow | guess what! |
| 18:44.59 | bluspacecow | WORK IS OVER! |
| 18:45.07 | bluspacecow | I GETS TO GO HOME ! |
| 18:49.58 | fewyn | huh i got into the legacy of the void beta? |
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| 18:51.38 | Semlar | yes? |
| 18:52.18 | fewyn | i didn't even know it was in beta |
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| 20:16.11 | znf | yay EU died |
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| 22:56.37 | d[karl]b | "God made everything in a week and itscalled creation notrevolution for example if you get a wood you can create something with it like a toy but revolution or evolution when you put a wood on a table and not touch it nothing happens unlike creation like what god did" |
| 23:01.51 | MiRai | d[karl]b: Say no more, I'm sold. |
| 23:02.02 | MiRai | Who can I begin donating my money to to support that? |
| 23:13.46 | Arrowmaster | oh thats bad, google added an all inboxes view to the gmail app, i must stay away from that |
| 23:22.42 | Mr_Rabies | ai just have one inbox |
| 23:28.30 | Arrowmaster | i have 5 different gmail accounts on my phone |
| 23:29.08 | Arrowmaster | and a 6th i cant add due to the auth system the edu set up on it |
| 23:29.50 | Arrowmaster | and just saw a new option in the gmail app to merge the view of all my inboxes into one, big nope there |
| 23:30.09 | Arrowmaster | my stuff is separated for reasons |
| 23:52.43 | Shirik | pro tip: If you make an installer with a 25GB optional component, how about waiting until after they've actually picked that option before you refuse to continue saying you don't have enough HDD space ._. |
| 23:54.34 | pompy | install-breaking bug? |
| 23:55.01 | Shirik | yup. I want to install a 1GB application. I can't because I don't have the 26GB I would need if I installed all optional components along with it. |
| 23:55.12 | rid_ | :( |
| 23:58.58 | kd3 | whee back in civilization |
| 23:59.26 | kd3 | nice seeing most of the 50-ish direct descendants and in-laws of my grandfather, but now I've got so much crap to catch up on |
| 23:59.37 | kd3 | thankfully I broke my curse of major wow news breaking while I'm on vacation |
