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| 00:18.55 | Simca | kd3: I like how several people are like "clearly they're just walking to work", when the initial premise is that the industrial setup is on one island and the residential setup is on another island. |
| 00:19.09 | kd3 | ya |
| 00:19.24 | Semlar | so they're just swimming to work |
| 00:20.39 | Simca | haha |
| 00:23.22 | phelps | migrant workers ? |
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| 02:46.15 | Thordurin_ | hugs Cairenn |
| 02:52.13 | Semlar | znf: is there a trick to getting knocked up properly on blackhand |
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| 02:53.42 | Thunder_Child | Semlar: Put out. |
| 02:53.55 | Thunder_Child | Actually, that tends to work anywhere. |
| 02:55.34 | mckenziemc | ~fiskerslap Thunder_Child |
| 02:55.35 | purl | ACTION slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with Fisker. |
| 02:57.44 | Simca | ~fiskerslap mckenziemc |
| 02:57.44 | purl | ACTION slaps mckenziemc around a bit with Fisker. |
| 02:57.57 | Simca | best emote ever |
| 02:58.01 | mckenziemc | D: |
| 02:58.29 | Simca | ~fiskerslap Fisker |
| 02:58.29 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker around a bit with Fisker. |
| 02:58.48 | Simca | what now Fisker |
| 02:59.01 | kullervo | Semlar: PHRASING |
| 02:59.08 | Semlar | knocks kullervo up |
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| 03:01.14 | Torhal | TIL Semlar is an unabashed pervert. |
| 03:04.19 | kullervo | Semlar: srsly though which phase |
| 03:05.54 | Semlar | 2 |
| 03:06.21 | kullervo | mark the tank |
| 03:06.46 | Semlar | well i'm not going up but the person who is going up said he was next to the other people and didn't go up |
| 03:07.00 | kullervo | class? |
| 03:08.10 | Semlar | warrior |
| 03:08.20 | kullervo | hmh.. Then it's probably just about standing too far |
| 03:13.19 | Parnic | is there a quick way to get to my garrison on the ptr from a pre-made character? |
| 03:13.44 | kullervo | Semlar: I think the ability won't throw players properly if their hitbox is outside the circle |
| 03:19.06 | Semlar | hmm |
| 03:19.24 | kullervo | Semlar: also don't trust the player if they say they were standing on top of everyone else |
| 03:19.30 | Semlar | >_> |
| 03:19.38 | kullervo | I'm serious, people suck at that |
| 03:20.13 | kullervo | http://i.imgur.com/QaRtbl8.gifv |
| 03:23.30 | Arrowmaster | i just found a $322 hat online, i wish i could afford to spend that kinda money on a hat because its awesome |
| 03:23.56 | kullervo | link |
| 03:24.24 | Arrowmaster | http://www.jaminleather.com/SteamPunk-Skull-and-Spike-Top-Hat-P3424.aspx |
| 03:25.17 | kullervo | Arrowmaster: that's so stupid to spend $300 on |
| 03:25.38 | Arrowmaster | if it was cheaper i might like to get it |
| 03:26.33 | Arrowmaster | http://www.jaminleather.com/Leather-Curl-Rim-Fedora-Italian-Guito-Hat-P543.aspx |
| 03:27.10 | Arrowmaster | that i might get |
| 03:27.20 | Arrowmaster | http://www.jaminleather.com/Black-Short-Rim-Fedora-Hat-P2877.aspx |
| 03:27.21 | kullervo | are you a stripper? |
| 03:27.30 | Iriel | kullervo: you beat me to it |
| 03:27.46 | Arrowmaster | i actually already have that last one i linked, it was a gift and dont know where it came from |
| 03:28.42 | Arrowmaster | i did attend a party friday night wearing my leather hat, sleeveless leather vest, and black kilt |
| 03:28.50 | Arrowmaster | not a stripper though |
| 03:29.14 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: do you have to say that for tax purposes? |
| 03:29.21 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:31.01 | Iriel | âIâm not a strtipper, iâm a compensated attendee with disrobing obligations" |
| 03:31.34 | Arrowmaster | no i had to pay the entrance fee just like everybody else |
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| 03:38.48 | Thunder_Child | Just not with cash. |
| 03:40.05 | Thunder_Child | Although I could see Cairenn shopping at the website. |
| 03:41.12 | Cairenn | ... |
| 03:42.14 | Thordurin_ | hugs Cairenn |
| 03:42.30 | Cairenn | hugs Thordurin |
| 03:43.59 | Thunder_Child | Oh please Cairenn. You once linked boots that were a 'sobbing man licking your boots' away from being owned by a dominatrix. |
| 03:44.18 | Cairenn | *chuckles* |
| 03:44.47 | Cairenn | <== |
| 03:44.57 | Thunder_Child | Yea, and imo the site fits. |
| 03:45.00 | Cairenn | boot slut, what can I say? |
| 03:45.09 | Thunder_Child | Uh, not boot slut? |
| 03:45.22 | Thunder_Child | Boot aficionado! |
| 03:45.26 | Cairenn | hhe |
| 03:45.31 | Cairenn | heh* |
| 03:45.52 | Cairenn | Man, trying to get used to this new keyboard is challenging |
| 03:45.55 | Thordurin_ | what channel am I in..... >.> |
| 03:46.05 | Thunder_Child | Perhaphs even boot connoisseur. |
| 03:46.11 | Thunder_Child | Thordurin_: If you have to ask.... |
| 03:47.10 | Iriel | Cairenn: did someone replace your keyboard with an octopus or something? |
| 03:47.26 | p3lim | Just woke up, and apparently Arrowmaster is a stripper with a leather fetish, and Cairenn declares her fetish for boots |
| 03:47.31 | p3lim | Just another day I suppose |
| 03:47.38 | Cairenn | You might say that ... https://www.trulyergonomic.com/store/100-keys-in-60-space--truly-ergonomic-me... |
| 03:48.28 | Iriel | p3lim: I think you mean âconfirmsâ and not âdeclares' |
| 03:48.43 | Iriel | Cairenn: thatâs just wierd |
| 03:49.00 | Thunder_Child | A few people at work have that keyboard. It's....interesting to use. |
| 03:49.10 | Cairenn | I've been having some serious problems with my right shoulder, so trying a keyboard that moves my mouse significantly to the left |
| 03:49.51 | p3lim | Cairenn: I've got the same issue, although I made my own keyboard instead :p |
| 03:49.57 | Cairenn | I'm hitting the enter key instead of the space bar quite frequently |
| 03:50.33 | Arrowmaster | p3lim: ergodox? |
| 03:50.37 | Cairenn | But I've also only had it for 2 days so far |
| 03:50.52 | p3lim | Arrowmaster: Nah, just a custom 60% layout |
| 03:51.46 | Cairenn | I can customize this a lot too, if I find I need to, but I don't want to mess around with it much yet, until I decide for sure I'm keeping it |
| 03:51.55 | p3lim | Here's the layout (and two different layers) http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/layouts/be0ddba1dd02211a642ace5f4a390134 |
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| 03:52.26 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: cool as the ergodex is, I couldmât imagine making a full-time use keyboard with it |
| 03:52.28 | Arrowmaster | i dont understand why those are becoming so popular now, i couldnt stand not having a full size keyboard |
| 03:52.56 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt even buy a laptop without a 10key numberpad |
| 03:53.13 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: see comments about shoulder pain and trying to move the mouse closer to center |
| 03:53.48 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: no i fully understand the ergonomic keyboards, looking into one of those myself when im not using a laptop again |
| 03:54.12 | Arrowmaster | i meant these small sized no ergo keyboards |
| 03:54.22 | Cairenn | ah |
| 03:54.24 | p3lim | What I don't understand is the "ortholinear" keyboards: http://www.atomickeyboard.com/ |
| 03:55.21 | Arrowmaster | and the http://planckkeyboard.com/ |
| 03:56.20 | Arrowmaster | ive seen people posting the planck on /r/mechanicalkeyboards and i just dont get it |
| 03:56.39 | p3lim | I could possibly understand it as a macro-only keypad as an addition for videoeditors or something, but not as a main board |
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| 03:59.21 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/rollermouse-free2 Might also work as well. Surprisingly easy to use. |
| 03:59.55 | Cairenn | I think that if I were to go back to a non-ergo keyboard, I might look into something like the Jasper freeBOARD Keyboard. And if I decide I just can't get used to this one, I'll probably end up going to the MS Sculpt |
| 04:00.16 | Cairenn | Yeah, Ive looked at those, they're funky |
| 04:02.37 | Cairenn | Unless I have absolutely no other choice, though, I highly doubt I'll ever go back to a 'straight' keyboard again (regardless of the mouse-type device I'm using. |
| 04:03.35 | Cairenn | I've been using the Logitech or MS 'natural/wave' type keyboards for years and years now and I much prefer them. |
| 04:04.27 | Cairenn | If I keep this one, I do see myself picking up a stand-alone keypad though. |
| 04:04.52 | Mr_Rabies | i use a $12 logitech keyboard i think |
| 04:05.13 | Semlar | kullervo: what determines which side people get knocked onto |
| 04:05.17 | p3lim | I think I've spent around $200 in building this one :p |
| 04:05.33 | Semlar | the side of the room the boss is on or direction he's facing or what |
| 04:06.39 | kullervo | Semlar, the smash targets the ground under the tank and knocks the tank away from the boss and the others away from the tank |
| 04:07.01 | kullervo | how has your raid not found this out already |
| 04:08.49 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Did you see that CAH episode of Tabletop? |
| 04:08.57 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:09.13 | Arrowmaster | hilarious |
| 04:15.21 | Fisker | mean Simca |
| 04:15.22 | Fisker | mean |
| 04:15.25 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
| 04:15.41 | Simca | ~fiskerslap Fisker |
| 04:15.41 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker around a bit with Fisker. |
| 04:15.50 | Fisker | trips and hugs Cairenn |
| 04:16.06 | Cairenn | hugs Fisker |
| 04:17.53 | Torhal | hey Fisker |
| 04:17.57 | Fisker | hey |
| 04:17.57 | Torhal | Maple syrup? |
| 04:18.00 | Fisker | nope |
| 04:18.14 | Fisker | tastes like tree |
| 04:18.35 | Torhal | Rude. |
| 04:19.55 | Cairenn | Maple syrup is the yummy! |
| 04:33.44 | p3lim | Don't think I've ever tasted that |
| 04:43.54 | Fisker | It's pretty sticky |
| 04:58.37 | Fisker | It's work time |
| 04:58.45 | Fisker | No Cairenn noooo |
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| 04:59.02 | Cairenn | ? |
| 04:59.17 | Fisker | Nothing :P |
| 04:59.31 | Cairenn | k |
| 05:00.04 | Fisker | Going to work now :( |
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| 05:57.33 | phelps | is it possible to set the model of a model PlayerModel frame to an object ID instead of the object file name |
| 05:59.22 | phelps | I tried SetCreature and SetModel but neither of those worked |
| 06:13.56 | Cairenn | Parnic: ping? |
| 06:25.11 | Fisker | picks up a pong bat |
| 06:56.03 | karl_w_w | pongs with Fisker |
| 07:10.28 | Semlar | phelps: don't know what you mean by object id |
| 07:10.51 | Semlar | like for chests and crates and things? |
| 07:10.54 | phelps | Semlar, instead of the location of the m2 file, the objects ID |
| 07:10.59 | Semlar | objects |
| 07:11.01 | phelps | so I don't have to figure out the m2 |
| 07:11.05 | Semlar | you can't |
| 07:11.11 | phelps | game objects, like mailboxes or fires |
| 07:11.12 | Semlar | there is no api for that |
| 07:11.17 | phelps | bummer |
| 07:12.53 | Simca | there is no API in the entire game that uses object ID I think |
| 07:13.19 | Semlar | you can get the id of an object you're looting out of through its GUID |
| 07:13.22 | Semlar | but that's about it |
| 07:13.24 | Simca | You can't even call a tooltip for an object - the game populates GameTooltip from C code when you mouseover an object |
| 07:13.49 | p3lim | Couldn't you set a tooltip by guid? |
| 07:13.53 | Semlar | nope |
| 07:13.54 | Simca | nope |
| 07:14.03 | p3lim | Huh, thought you could |
| 07:14.04 | Semlar | that only works if you can link something |
| 07:14.10 | Semlar | and you can't link an object |
| 07:14.13 | Simca | there is no :Set property for objects |
| 07:14.17 | Simca | for GameTooltip |
| 07:14.26 | Semlar | well that doesn't matter since you can use SetHyperlink |
| 07:14.36 | Semlar | (if they had links) |
| 07:14.38 | Simca | well if you could link it |
| 07:15.19 | Semlar | it's annoying that you can't |
| 07:15.43 | Semlar | but not all that surprising |
| 07:16.11 | Semlar | if the objects you're interested in have display IDs you can show them in a model frame though |
| 07:16.13 | phelps | it'd be cool if I could show a model of objects related to quests |
| 07:16.37 | phelps | Semlar, I tried that and it didn't work either |
| 07:16.51 | p3lim | You potentially could, using a database |
| 07:17.01 | Semlar | you'd have to export all the things |
| 07:17.19 | Semlar | where are you getting the object id anyway |
| 07:17.25 | Simca | yeah, hardcode a list of questID:objectpath |
| 07:17.40 | Simca | it' |
| 07:17.43 | Simca | s not even that hard |
| 07:17.46 | Semlar | you'd have to do that regardless to associate the quest id with the objects |
| 07:18.11 | Simca | well, I guess it is hard given that there are no public WDB readers and you need one of those to get the data in question |
| 07:18.13 | Semlar | i tried to do almost this exact thing for all the treasures around WoD |
| 07:18.14 | p3lim | By the way Simca, is there a list that specifically has information about an item's disenchantability? |
| 07:18.23 | Simca | but I could write one if you needed one |
| 07:19.19 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:19.44 | Simca | p3lim: hmm... I don't recall. ItemDisenchantLoot lists the rules that govern what you'll get from disenchanting (i.e. armor pieces in a certain ilvl range of a certain quality will result in X) |
| 07:20.06 | p3lim | Simca: Yeah, I've already got that from you actually :p |
| 07:20.25 | p3lim | But there are a lot of items that are within those rules that are not disenchantable |
| 07:20.26 | phelps | Semlar, I'm getting them from the wowhead model viewer js link |
| 07:20.46 | phelps | ModelViewer.show({ type: 2, typeId: 32349, displayId: 1947 }) |
| 07:20.50 | Simca | p3lim: yeah, my first guess is that it is a flag in item-sparse |
| 07:21.09 | Semlar | well the displayID is right there yeah? |
| 07:21.23 | phelps | yeah but I'd have to do that manually |
| 07:21.28 | Semlar | or does it not work because it's an object |
| 07:21.35 | phelps | it doesn't work using that ID |
| 07:21.42 | Semlar | you tried SetDisplayInfo with that? |
| 07:21.52 | phelps | no |
| 07:22.02 | Semlar | well that's the function that uses the display id |
| 07:22.28 | Simca | p3lim: can you give me 2 examples of items that can't be disenchanted? |
| 07:22.38 | p3lim | Simca: sure, give me a second |
| 07:22.44 | Simca | but are armor/weapons within the right ranges |
| 07:24.01 | p3lim | Simca: http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=qu=2:3:4;sl=16:5:8:11:10:1:23:7:21:2:22:13:15:14:3:12:17:6:9;cr=8;crs=2;crv=0 |
| 07:24.33 | phelps | Semlar, that displays stuff but not the object I want, guess those aren't display IDs that match in game |
| 07:24.47 | Semlar | didn't think so |
| 07:25.10 | Simca | it would surprise me 0% if wowhead wasn't naming that variable right |
| 07:25.26 | Semlar | they probably just use the same variable with the different model types |
| 07:25.59 | Simca | that could be GameObjectArtKitID or any number of things |
| 07:28.39 | p3lim | Simca: Or if you'd prefer wowdb: http://www.wowdb.com/items?filter-disenchantable=0&filter-quality=28&filter-slot=2359278 |
| 07:29.39 | Simca | looks like it could be &24576 in Flags2 of item-sparse.db2 |
| 07:30.29 | p3lim | I have no idea how to read those files though |
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| 07:31.12 | Simca | hmm, actually 24576 isn't a power of 2 |
| 07:32.20 | Simca | ah ok, it's &16384 |
| 07:38.51 | Simca | i can give you a list in a minute |
| 07:39.12 | karl_w_w | so i just found out that in android 5.x if you swipe down with 2 fingers the 2nd drawer opens straight away |
| 07:39.16 | karl_w_w | so much time wasted |
| 07:40.39 | p3lim | karl_w_w: In my ROM if I swipe from the right hand of the top I will also get the 2nd drawer |
| 07:42.19 | p3lim | Although it's still 4.4 |
| 07:43.55 | p3lim | Simca: thanks, but I really need to find out how I can get those lists myself, can't keep asking you for these things forever :p |
| 07:45.36 | plaw | so apparently if you go to donate to Ted Cruz's website, it doesn't use https. But if you force https, it uses a certificate that as well as working for ted cruz's website, ALSO works for nigerian-prince.com |
| 07:45.51 | plaw | lol security wtf even is |
| 07:46.17 | Simca | why is that a github page? |
| 07:47.25 | p3lim | Simca: http://p3lim.net/test |
| 07:47.43 | p3lim | Same reason, it's pointing to GitHub pages, but the repo/branch doesn't exist |
| 07:48.52 | karl_w_w | I just noticed there are 6 set pieces this tier |
| 07:53.07 | karl_w_w | which means next tier we can have 2 piece of this tier and 4 of the next |
| 07:53.22 | karl_w_w | ah, which is why all the 2 piece bonuses are shit |
| 07:53.26 | karl_w_w | now it all makes sense |
| 08:02.57 | Simca | wait the actual tier has 6 pieces too? |
| 08:03.00 | Simca | not just LFR tier? |
| 08:04.19 | karl_w_w | just lfr |
| 08:10.29 | Simca | Nope, it's not Bit 15 in Flags 2 (though I have no fucking clue what else that one could be) |
| 08:11.35 | Simca | I think/hope it is Bit 16 in Flags1 |
| 08:23.43 | Simca | p3lim: uploading my item-sparse.xlsx spreadsheet with all of the bit flags laid out. that way if you ever want to sort by something like this again, you can do it yourself |
| 08:24.23 | Simca | it's 93 MB, so 9 minutes to upload, lol |
| 08:26.09 | karl_w_w | jnwhiteh, when my raid group changes during combat my clique right click binding is overwritten with the unit menu |
| 08:26.16 | karl_w_w | is the frame's fault? |
| 08:49.25 | Industrial | k so |
| 08:49.28 | Industrial | if you call your software "Uncrustify" I won't be as interested. |
| 08:54.34 | p3lim | Simca: That list has equippable items only in it? |
| 08:54.56 | Simca | no, it has everything ever |
| 08:55.18 | p3lim | Every item in the game? |
| 08:56.23 | Simca | presumably they only set the 'can't disenchant bit' for equippable items, so you can just filter the spreadsheet by the first 'B16' column being 'T' (true) and you should get the list you currently want |
| 08:56.35 | Simca | here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/yot0jk4ov7tizz7/Item-Sparse-Flags.zip |
| 08:57.04 | p3lim | I was just thinking about using it for other things as well if it contains every item in the game s'all |
| 08:57.36 | Simca | yeah that is the point of giving you the whole spreadsheet, it has a lot of uses |
| 08:57.44 | Simca | though, I don't know what most of the bit flags mean |
| 08:58.35 | p3lim | Hrm, I don't have the tools to read this.. |
| 08:58.59 | Simca | any spreadsheet program |
| 08:59.33 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/bceYvRs.png my current knowledge of bit flags in item-sparse |
| 08:59.51 | Semlar | sticks a flag in simca |
| 09:00.00 | Semlar | i claim dis |
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| 09:07.04 | p3lim | Nice, Microsoft has a standalone excel viewer program |
| 09:08.28 | Simca | LibreOffice and OpenOffice are also free alternatives to MSOffice which have their own spreadsheet programs |
| 09:08.43 | Simca | they are pretty large downloads though |
| 09:09.52 | p3lim | Alright this program is even more useless than Google Docs |
| 09:14.16 | Simca | that is impressive |
| 09:15.08 | haste | how is google docs useless :P ? |
| 09:15.13 | p3lim | It can search, but not do any sort of exporting or even something as simple as sorting by column |
| 09:15.54 | p3lim | haste: It's not an installed application, which means I have to upload anything to view it |
| 09:17.54 | p3lim | Wow, LibreOffice crashed while opening that file |
| 09:19.49 | Simca | haste: spreadsheet size capped at 20 MB, crashes constantly, no filters, no custom code execution without google's approval via writing a plugin for the entire world, awful conditional formatting, - I can go on. |
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| 09:20.15 | haste | as a "casual" user it works quite nicely at least |
| 09:20.20 | Simca | that said, it is easily the best cloud-based solution |
| 09:20.33 | p3lim | I'll agree on that |
| 09:20.56 | p3lim | Used it exclusively when taking courses to finish my diploma |
| 09:24.45 | Stanzilla | Simca: I had an error last night with your version of astro, could have been from tomtom's usage though |
| 09:25.09 | Stanzilla | I could even pastebin it, if EU didnt have a login queue atm wtf |
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| 09:35.58 | Stanzilla | haha okay, Simca here goes nothing http://pastebin.com/Tb3WarM0 |
| 09:36.10 | Stanzilla | I'm in ironforge |
| 09:38.17 | p3lim | So while openoffice hasn't crashed yet, it still has not fully loaded the file after about 15 minutes |
| 09:38.25 | p3lim | currently using 1.5gb of memory tho |
| 09:38.37 | Stanzilla | great software |
| 09:38.55 | nevcairiel | best software eu |
| 09:39.47 | karl_w_w | google docs can sort by column |
| 09:40.18 | karl_w_w | hell, there's one in the topic that does it automatically :P |
| 09:40.37 | p3lim | good luck opening a 90+mb spreadsheet in google docs |
| 09:41.42 | foxlit | why do you even have a 90mb spreadsheet? |
| 09:42.00 | p3lim | Simca made it for me, has lots of stuff inside it |
| 09:42.10 | nevcairiel | because Simca exported item-sparse into it |
| 09:42.49 | p3lim | aaand there it crashed after peaking 2gb of ram :p |
| 09:42.59 | nevcairiel | just get proper office |
| 09:44.14 | foxlit | or stop using spreadsheets for silly things :) |
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| 09:49.27 | foxlit | (should really just parse the db2/adb directly to get the pieces that you want) |
| 09:49.47 | nevcairiel | he wanted it nicely sortable and filtertable |
| 09:49.51 | nevcairiel | filterable* |
| 09:50.31 | p3lim | If I knew how to do that foxlit I would |
| 09:50.34 | foxlit | surely that is what scrpting languages are made for. |
| 09:50.38 | Industrial | Stick it in a trazillion (yeah) node hadoop cluster |
| 09:51.14 | foxlit | p3lim: http://www.townlong-yak.com/casc/#api-dbc |
| 09:53.05 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/UatssAhD |
| 09:58.50 | p3lim | Ohh, thanks |
| 09:58.55 | Stanzilla | time to make a 90mb pastebin :D |
| 10:00.27 | Semlar | tries to calm stanzilla down |
| 10:08.31 | Simca | foxlit: item-sparse is over google docs 20 mb limit in its native format, and removing columns doesn't significantly help unless you remove massive swaths of them |
| 10:10.00 | Simca | foxlit: also, item-sparse has 3x 32-bit flag fields, which is 96 columns if you want to sort and filter by the bits. |
| 10:10.08 | Simca | (he needs to) |
| 10:10.28 | Simca | also, also |
| 10:10.34 | Simca | spreadsheets are for everything. |
| 10:10.36 | Simca | ever. |
| 10:12.21 | Semlar | spreadsheets are what separates us from the animals |
| 10:12.28 | Simca | Semlar understands |
| 10:13.13 | Simca | "...and on the seventh day, God gave us Spreadsheets" - Chapter 1, the Book of Simca |
| 10:13.36 | Semlar | and it was good |
| 10:13.47 | p3lim | So, say I want to use LuaCASC to print out every row that has the first 16bit flag to a list containing itemID and the item name |
| 10:13.52 | p3lim | from item-sparse that is |
| 10:14.10 | p3lim | Because automating this would be amazing |
| 10:14.43 | Simca | it certainly doesn't support bit flags. you're better off trying to dump the first X columns of all rows and then checking the 16th bit of the first flags column afterwards |
| 10:16.17 | foxlit | p3lim: dump a few rows, figure out which columns store the information you're interested in. |
| 10:16.33 | foxlit | write an isBitSet(integer, bit) function. |
| 10:16.51 | foxlit | iterate over all rows, check your bit, print whatever you want |
| 10:17.50 | Simca | foxlit: do you number where ID column is 0 or ID column is 1? |
| 10:20.03 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/9f5CWDf - awesome |
| 10:21.01 | Simca | well, either way, p3lim: Flags1 is column 2 in item-sparse.db2 if index is column 0 and column 3 if index is column 1 |
| 10:21.19 | foxlit | generally, I don't number anything. If your format string specifiies a table, entries start at index 1. |
| 10:21.34 | Simca | k, then column 3 |
| 10:29.08 | p3lim | I need to start with understanding this tool first I think |
| 10:29.33 | p3lim | I don't even know what files I can pass to handle:readFile() |
| 10:32.19 | Simca | this list is a couple months old but this is the list of game database files: http://pastebin.com/pJQVfUqU |
| 10:32.35 | Simca | DBFilesClient\item-sparse.db2 is the one you want right now |
| 10:32.57 | p3lim | How can I get a list of those files myself for example? |
| 10:33.42 | Simca | open wow.exe in your text editor of choice, CTRL+F "DBFilesClient" probably lol |
| 10:34.29 | Simca | yeah |
| 10:34.34 | foxlit | $ strings -n 12 /Applications/World\ of\ Warcraft/World\ of\ Warcraft.app/Contents/MacOS/World\ of\ Warcraft | grep -i dbfilesclient |
| 10:36.04 | foxlit | or eventually handle:readFile("Wow-64.exe"):gmatch("DBFilesClient\\%Z+"), but that requires a more recent luacasc. |
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| 10:39.55 | VIad | we talking about reading the dbc? :) |
| 10:57.58 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 10:58.25 | nevcairiel | we talking about finding which dbcs exist |
| 11:07.16 | p3lim | Hrm, still no clue how to use this right, been playing with print-dbc, I don't really know what I'm looking at |
| 11:07.19 | p3lim | The output that is |
| 11:16.11 | foxlit | so what is the output? |
| 11:26.39 | p3lim | Well the output is what I'd expect, but I don't know how to extract the parts I want |
| 11:28.17 | mikma | cairenn: https://youtu.be/WoJAXtoVxRc - guess what! it's not porn! wooo |
| 11:29.00 | p3lim | I'm after the itemID (which looks to be column 1), the item name (column 71) and what was under a column labelled "B16" in the spreadsheet Simca sent me |
| 11:29.26 | Semlar | bingo! |
| 11:29.37 | p3lim | And also possibly filtering more things |
| 11:30.11 | mikma | you sank my battleship |
| 11:33.21 | mikma | http://i.imgur.com/0dEvW6p.jpg |
| 11:33.24 | mikma | looks like a nice GUI |
| 11:34.43 | Semlar | looks like a programmer's GUI |
| 11:38.15 | Industrial | Sled Angle. |
| 11:38.21 | Industrial | gotta get yur sled angles right. |
| 11:38.59 | Industrial | I like how some of the buttons tell you to push it. |
| 11:39.53 | Simca | p3lim: B16 is the 16th bit of the number in column 3 |
| 11:54.53 | foxlit | so t[1] is item id, t[3] is your flags bitfield represented as a signed 32-bit little-endian int, and t[71] is the item name |
| 12:23.26 | p3lim | Sorry, I have no idea how to work with bits like that |
| 12:24.11 | Torhal | p3lim: http://wow.gamepedia.com/Lua_functions#Bit_Functions |
| 12:26.17 | p3lim | Torhal: I'm aware that there are ways of working with bits, but I don't know how to use them |
| 12:26.27 | Torhal | :O |
| 12:27.36 | karl_w_w | yeah, I don't know how to tuck either |
| 12:28.49 | foxlit | it's a very learnable skill. |
| 12:29.12 | foxlit | just binary numbers, really. |
| 12:29.52 | foxlit | instead of using 10 digits (cue every base is base 10 joke), you're only allowed to use two: 1 and 0. |
| 12:30.26 | foxlit | natural integers can then be represented as 1, 10, 11, 100, 101, 110, 111, etc |
| 12:31.30 | p3lim | I know what binary is :p |
| 12:31.52 | foxlit | given a sequence of bits, i.e. 0b1010111, you can interpret it as an integer: 2^0 + 2^1 + 2^2 + 2^4 + 2^6 = 87 |
| 12:32.44 | foxlit | similarly, you can answer questions like |
| 12:33.08 | foxlit | "is the least significant bit in 88 set (1) or cleared (0)?" |
| 12:33.44 | foxlit | by e.g. translating 88 = 2^3 + 2^4 + 2^6 = 0b1011000 |
| 12:34.01 | foxlit | and noticing the 0 at the end of that, |
| 12:34.36 | foxlit | answering "cleared" |
| 12:35.31 | foxlit | You can also use modulo arithmetic: to test if the k'th least significant bit of X is set, compute X modulo 2^(k+1) and check that the result is at least 2^k. |
| 12:36.11 | foxlit | finally, if you have bitlib functions, you can just check bit.band(X, 2^k) > 0. |
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| 12:52.00 | foxlit | (2^k) is a poor man's (1 << k), i.e. a single 1 bit followed by k zeroes. |
| 12:54.57 | mitch0 | There are 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand binary, and those who don't. |
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| 13:01.57 | karl_w_w | there are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand ternary, those who don't, and those who have never seen it before |
| 13:03.53 | mikma | i don't get it |
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| 13:20.17 | karl_w_w | znf, http://imgur.com/a/AdNU7 |
| 13:21.03 | znf | Lol |
| 13:24.14 | rid_ | lol |
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| 13:35.28 | Industrial | So I heard you like intersections http://lusipurr.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Open-Transport-Tycoon-Crazy-Trains-Screenshot.jpg |
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| 13:43.32 | znf | I could never figure out the train signals in OTTD |
| 13:45.29 | Industrial | I got the hang of it after a while but I usually get bored when/after I get my business booming |
| 13:46.15 | Industrial | I'm like "yay monies. More monies. MOOOOOAAAR wait why aren't I spending this time making real monies?". |
| 13:46.31 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:47.19 | Lopeppeppy | Bonjour, delicious marshmallow entities. |
| 13:48.32 | Industrial | ( ^ _ ^ ) |
| 13:52.06 | mikma | industrial: YO YO YO DAWG I HERD YOU LIKE INTERSECTIONS! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=616_1426435652 |
| 14:00.01 | karl_w_w | hey mikma, I heard you like intersections http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0nb1g3xXP4 |
| 14:02.47 | foxlit | heh, it's 6.1 and they're still reusing the tol barad icon for ashran teleports |
| 14:03.43 | mikma | karl_w_w: WHEEEEE |
| 14:05.11 | karl_w_w | the ladbroke grove crash was worse but I can't find a good video on that :P |
| 14:06.57 | mikma | that was interesting crash |
| 14:07.12 | mikma | the coach bent like macaroni |
| 14:24.51 | mikma | karl_w_w: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy8Yt-P614w |
| 14:25.13 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 14:44.23 | karl_w_w | I just signed up to a website and literally 5 minutes later got an email saying "you haven't been active for quite some time" |
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| 14:49.52 | p3lim | meh, fuck it |
| 14:50.24 | p3lim | good luck getting Lua 5.2 AND BitOp on Windows |
| 14:50.49 | Arrowmaster | hmm i think facebook changed something, im not able to expand more comments, probably ublock doing it |
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| 14:52.53 | foxlit | "p3lim: good luck getting Lua 5.2 AND BitOp on Windows" << reading comprehension is sorely lacking |
| 14:53.58 | foxlit | "Lua 5.2 or Lua BitOp" "On Windows, you may use this Lua 5.2 binary..." |
| 14:54.41 | p3lim | What are you talking about? |
| 14:55.50 | foxlit | inferred context based on previous conersation; what were /you/ talking about when you said "fuck it"? |
| 14:56.36 | p3lim | I'm trying to get BOTH Lua 5.2 and BitOp on Windows, just not going to happen |
| 14:56.52 | foxlit | why would you need that? |
| 14:57.04 | p3lim | So I could use bit.* methods |
| 14:57.29 | foxlit | 5.2 includes its own bit.* |
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| 15:03.40 | p3lim | foxlit: not in any of the binaries of 5.2 I could find for Windows |
| 15:09.10 | foxlit | its just called bit32 instead of bit |
| 15:10.54 | foxlit | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#6.7 |
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| 15:31.44 | kd3 | whee, breaking computer vision is fun: http://news.cornell.edu/stories/2015/03/images-fool-computer-vision-raise-security-concerns |
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| 16:13.35 | VIad | Simca: nice excel sheet you got there |
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| 16:16.07 | karl_w_w | this is how the computers learn to take over, kd3 |
| 16:16.55 | VIad | fun fact, 2007+ use zip as container and if you extract your 90mb sheet, it becomes 842mb :3 |
| 16:18.43 | mikma | semlar: oh yeah, navi works just fine now, thanks babe |
| 16:30.35 | p3lim | Simca: Flags2 bit 14 = not available to players |
| 16:31.14 | Maldivia | VIad: you didn't know it was a zip file? |
| 16:31.35 | VIad | I did |
| 16:32.02 | VIad | did you? :p |
| 16:32.39 | Maldivia | :D |
| 16:33.38 | VIad | also since a zip, means you need like 850mb to just open the file :D |
| 16:33.49 | VIad | or ram, if it loads it into the ram |
| 16:33.59 | VIad | havent really cared enough to check how excel loads big files |
| 16:38.18 | Arrowmaster | you want to know whats even scarier, ive seen excel 07 files over 1.5 gigs in size |
| 16:38.25 | Arrowmaster | that was size on disk |
| 16:38.46 | VIad | :D |
| 16:38.49 | VIad | enable tracking changes |
| 16:54.06 | p3lim | foxlit: column 3 in item-sparse.db2 is flags1, but which colums are the other two flags? |
| 16:55.40 | p3lim | nvm, found out |
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| 17:46.08 | p3lim | heh, 14.57% of all items has special text on them |
| 17:49.16 | Primer | Simca: What's the verdict? https://github.com/jnwhiteh/astrolabe remains unchanged |
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| 17:49.54 | Simca | you should read the pull request |
| 17:50.00 | Primer | I have |
| 17:50.04 | Simca | but at this point, it's done. it just is up to jnwhiteh to merge |
| 17:50.08 | Simca | probably today |
| 17:50.17 | Primer | oh, seems there are updates |
| 17:50.28 | Primer | lots of discussion... |
| 17:50.30 | Primer | reads |
| 17:51.35 | Fisker | I'll merge you Simca |
| 17:51.37 | Primer | lovely |
| 17:59.52 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSKatciX3hA |
| 17:59.55 | Arrowmaster | followed by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYpKc6SSwT0 |
| 18:03.16 | Constie | Followed by: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkUVToIfrKg |
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| 18:22.02 | Primer | bah, I'm 4 elemental runes short |
| 18:22.43 | nevcairiel | but its monday, new id tomorrow, so all is fine? |
| 18:23.01 | Primer | I was hoping to have my new ring for tonight's raid |
| 18:23.24 | nevcairiel | we didnt kill blackhand yet, because we were too lazy to do it on normal, and on HC we didnt get there yet, so we'll do it lfr this week to finish it |
| 18:23.33 | nevcairiel | which matches the timing for me having enough runes perfectly |
| 18:24.32 | Primer | well, I've done all the bosses, albeit having done Blackhand on normal |
| 18:25.02 | Primer | Pondering running a bunch of rush orders to see if I can get 4 |
| 18:25.12 | Primer | I'm mostly garrison resource capped on this toon anyhow |
| 18:25.25 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 18:25.28 | nevcairiel | might work |
| 18:25.51 | nevcairiel | i'm capped on all my 100's |
| 18:25.55 | nevcairiel | (which are only 3) |
| 18:25.58 | Ayrshire | Man, I'm only at two tablets. Late to the party. :D |
| 18:26.13 | nevcairiel | i'm at 2 + 240 or so |
| 18:26.22 | Ayrshire | I periodically shove the resources into the trading post |
| 18:26.57 | Ayrshire | Throw them at the traders or the AH |
| 18:27.17 | nevcairiel | yeah i buy draenic dust occasionally to keep my ench building humming |
| 18:27.29 | nevcairiel | i could probably buy much more and sell on the AH |
| 18:27.30 | nevcairiel | but shrug |
| 18:27.39 | Primer | I have like 10 stacks of dust on my enchanter |
| 18:27.44 | Primer | all from DEing pvp shit though |
| 18:27.50 | Primer | from the gladiator's sanctum |
| 18:27.51 | nevcairiel | i spent like 9k the day 6.1 hit on re-roll items for followers |
| 18:28.00 | nevcairiel | like 1.5 weeks later, capped again |
| 18:28.33 | Ayrshire | On my server none of the crafting mats are worth putting on the AH, it was one of the meats that gave the most gold. |
| 18:28.53 | nevcairiel | it used to be dust here, no idea if it changed |
| 18:30.51 | Ayrshire | Did Blackhand on normal, but of course it was before I got the quest. |
| 18:31.09 | Ayrshire | And we're currently butting our heads against furnace in heroic |
| 18:31.31 | nevcairiel | we're on maidens now, although they should go down next raid, furnace after |
| 18:31.33 | Ayrshire | So I'm glad LFR is finally opening up |
| 18:31.52 | nevcairiel | but we dont do normal just f or killing things, so we never progressed to blackhand there |
| 18:33.13 | Primer | Furnace is fucked up |
| 18:33.17 | Primer | heroic furnace, that is |
| 18:33.32 | Ayrshire | Maidens is more of a group dance, furnace is messy. |
| 18:33.43 | Primer | spent several nights wiping only to one shot it in a pug |
| 18:34.24 | Ayrshire | Problem we're having is the adds end up overwhelming the tanks at some point |
| 18:34.29 | Primer | yup |
| 18:34.36 | Primer | How many people? |
| 18:34.41 | Ayrshire | Usually while trying to get the elementalists down |
| 18:34.42 | Primer | We've tried it with as few as 11 |
| 18:34.52 | Ayrshire | 16-ish |
| 18:35.00 | Primer | The side with Feldspar is the side that gets fucked |
| 18:35.04 | Ayrshire | Yup |
| 18:35.14 | Primer | The other side only has 4 people and we're fine |
| 18:35.24 | Primer | me (disc), tank, 2 DPS |
| 18:35.50 | Ayrshire | If we could keep them stacked, I could probably handle all the dps on the light side myself. |
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| 18:36.04 | Ayrshire | Elemental aoe is crazy this xpac |
| 18:36.39 | Primer | Well, I get to wipe on it again tonight |
| 18:37.01 | Ayrshire | If I'm on the light side I tend to get 10 secs or of do nothing after the first group |
| 18:37.11 | Ayrshire | Usually run over and throw a little dps on Feldspar |
| 18:37.34 | Ayrshire | Not that it makes any difference, but feels better than doing nothing. |
| 18:37.55 | Ayrshire | *or so |
| 18:38.51 | Ayrshire | Thursday's our last night each week, so likely won't get to furnace again until wed |
| 18:39.30 | Ayrshire | Start fresh on Tues, get to furnace sometime wed, spend thursday finally getting it down, is my guess. |
| 18:40.12 | Ayrshire | Assuming it's not a gear/dps issue. Certainly seems like we could use more, but remains to be seen if it's absolutely required. |
| 18:41.16 | Ayrshire | E.g. being able to burn all the elementalists in one cycle would help a lot, but we can only seem to manage that with one of them with cooldowns. |
| 18:41.47 | Ayrshire | And doing that means the adds get even more unruly |
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| 18:42.40 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: ROFL! |
| 18:43.23 | Cairenn | mikma: cute! |
| 18:52.13 | Primer | Ayrshire: we're all like 685ish |
| 18:52.34 | Primer | and we still struggle with it, but it seems it has more to do with people not being as good as they should be |
| 18:52.34 | Ayrshire | Ah, that's a bit higher than we are |
| 18:52.46 | Ayrshire | I think we're 675 ish |
| 18:53.48 | Ayrshire | Yeah, furnace is punishing if everyone isn't on top of things |
| 18:54.31 | Ayrshire | Maidens is pretty regular, learn the patterns and you're good. |
| 18:54.50 | nevcairiel | the only annoying part of maidens is the piercing shot in the ship phase |
| 18:54.54 | Ayrshire | Furnace has the adds making everything slighly different each time |
| 18:54.59 | nevcairiel | always kills someone |
| 18:55.03 | Ayrshire | We bop |
| 18:55.11 | Ayrshire | It's not even worth trying to soak |
| 18:55.20 | Ayrshire | Either we bop, or we let them die |
| 18:55.25 | nevcairiel | bop works? |
| 18:55.27 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 18:55.29 | Ayrshire | Yep |
| 18:55.42 | nevcairiel | gotta bring that up next time |
| 18:55.56 | Ayrshire | We just have the person call out for bop if they don't have a mitigation |
| 18:56.05 | Ayrshire | E.g. hunters can handle it by themselves |
| 18:56.08 | nevcairiel | we have a pally tank and heal usually, and the cooldown of it is low enough that we should be able to get everyone |
| 18:56.27 | Ayrshire | 2 is on the border, yeah |
| 18:56.41 | nevcairiel | sometimes a ret too |
| 18:56.46 | Ayrshire | We had 3 and it went very well |
| 18:57.04 | Ayrshire | But we also had say, 1/3 of the raid able to mitigate |
| 18:57.21 | nevcairiel | that number of classes that can do that seems low |
| 18:57.27 | nevcairiel | mages, hunters, ...? |
| 18:57.45 | nevcairiel | maybe spriests with dispersion? |
| 18:57.54 | Ayrshire | Not sure offhand. I know hunter play dead works, mage ice block |
| 18:58.05 | Ayrshire | We just have people call out if they can handle it |
| 18:58.13 | Ayrshire | Haven't paid attention to which classes |
| 18:58.30 | nevcairiel | i should read up on that again, if we can negate that source of misery, the fight hsould be much more relaxed |
| 19:00.20 | Stanzilla | almost everything works |
| 19:00.28 | Stanzilla | and if you have a paladin, he has 2 charges of bop anyway |
| 19:00.44 | Primer | I spec into spectral guise to mitigate piercing shot on maidens |
| 19:00.52 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 19:00.55 | Primer | hunters and feign, mages invis, etc. |
| 19:01.01 | Primer | s/and/can/ |
| 19:01.10 | Primer | Thank you, Guest58745 |
| 19:02.40 | Ayrshire | The turret phase was our bugbear for awhile |
| 19:03.08 | Ayrshire | But mostly just a matter of practice |
| 19:03.29 | Ayrshire | A targeting macro for the turrets helps too |
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| 19:04.28 | Stanzilla | it's the big thing that shoots fireballs at you |
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| 19:04.42 | Ayrshire | Get people into the habit of moving to the far side from the turret, ranged always switching ASAP, and doding fireballs all the while. |
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| 19:04.47 | Ayrshire | *dodging |
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| 19:05.15 | Ayrshire | We kept having people eat fireballs, and if you're a little slow on getting turrets down they pile up and compound the fireball issue. |
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| 19:05.30 | Ayrshire | But now we can oneshot maidens |
| 19:06.16 | Ayrshire | Very much a dance type fight. Once the moves are learned, relatively easy to repeat them. |
| 19:06.43 | Ayrshire | At least, from the platform side. I haven't actually done boat yet. |
| 19:06.51 | Ayrshire | But we seem to have that down. |
| 19:08.40 | Ayrshire | I also recommend driving home spreading the axe |
| 19:08.40 | Primer | I do boat |
| 19:08.54 | Ayrshire | We seemed to get complacent with it, as you can eat it early on |
| 19:09.05 | Primer | it's no big deal...as long as DPS doesn't range you on the puddle phase...or fucking box you in like they did once |
| 19:09.16 | Ayrshire | But its still a bit hit, and later in the fight it easily kills if you don't spread. |
| 19:09.28 | Ayrshire | *big |
| 19:10.50 | Ayrshire | And "spread" doesn't mean "run to the edge", at least not only. Always seemed like when I had axe someone would run the same direction as me 1/2 the time. :D |
| 19:12.58 | mikma | Message: integer overflow attempting to store -1.#IND |
| 19:13.00 | mikma | wheeee? |
| 19:14.09 | Ayrshire | Obviously it's just MAXINT, coerce it and call it a day. ;) |
| 19:17.03 | mikma | semlar: http://hastebin.com/iloqovupud.lua <- any ideas how to remove this error? :P |
| 19:17.27 | mikma | semlar: it takes R G B and tries to convert it into hex |
| 19:17.40 | mikma | semlar: apparently G is wonky? |
| 19:18.28 | p3lim | apparently G is NaN |
| 19:18.53 | p3lim | see if you're dividing by zero somewhere |
| 19:21.07 | p3lim | actually, that would only happen on infinite (1.#INF) |
| 19:21.37 | Neffi | 0/0 generates a nan |
| 19:21.50 | Neffi | 1/0 generates an inf |
| 19:22.01 | Neffi | well, at least in Rio 5.2 |
| 19:22.05 | mikma | http://hastebin.com/yepigolaci.lua |
| 19:22.11 | mikma | i added the checks in, didn't matter |
| 19:23.21 | Neffi | maybe percent is already nan |
| 19:23.28 | Neffi | show us the codepath previous to this |
| 19:24.09 | Neffi | or test it by adding this at the top: assert(percent ~= percent, "percent was already nan") |
| 19:24.21 | Neffi | or, actually, do both |
| 19:33.12 | mikma | neffi: https://github.com/MikkoMajuri/miniHUD/blob/master/miniHUD.lua lines 5-9 |
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| 19:34.31 | Neffi | mikma: local percent = UnitHealth("playerpet")/UnitHealthMax("playerpet") |
| 19:34.39 | Neffi | this would result in nan if both calls returned 0 |
| 19:34.40 | mikma | neffi: ... ooooh |
| 19:34.47 | Neffi | the easy fix is, guard inside colorify |
| 19:34.54 | Neffi | at the top: if percent ~= percent then percent = 0 end |
| 19:34.58 | Neffi | to treat nan as 0 |
| 19:36.03 | Neffi | this is how I do this within my own code: https://gist.github.com/9214509cf3d9a1a9b2a6 |
| 19:36.40 | foxlit | don't be clever, Neffi. |
| 19:36.51 | Neffi | It's for precisely this same circumstance, foxlit |
| 19:36.53 | foxlit | 0/0 == 0/0 in winWoW. |
| 19:36.54 | Neffi | it's a helper for dumb UI code |
| 19:37.05 | Neffi | umm, what? |
| 19:37.12 | Neffi | I'm p sure that violates IEEE754 |
| 19:37.36 | Neffi | checking for nan with equality is never clever. it's the canonical way, because the spec mandates it |
| 19:37.43 | Neffi | s/never/not/ |
| 19:37.49 | foxlit | winWoW doesn't care what you think :) |
| 19:37.55 | Neffi | then winWoW is terrible |
| 19:38.19 | Neffi | If this is really the case it's sad |
| 19:38.43 | Neffi | becuase it probably means some stupid intern has taken over UI development and went, to the effect of "wtf why doesn't nan == nan? lemme fix this" |
| 19:39.03 | foxlit | it's been this way for ages. |
| 19:39.13 | Neffi | it wasn't this way in late MoP |
| 19:39.46 | foxlit | reasonably sure it was. |
| 19:40.03 | Neffi | and I'm pretty sure I fixed a bug in my code by checking for nan using ~= |
| 19:40.05 | foxlit | see also: you can use NaN as a table key in winWoW. |
| 19:40.14 | Neffi | ugh |
| 19:40.21 | Neffi | who the hell is running things there now? |
| 19:40.44 | Xinhuan | dude, it isn't any slower or worse to check if the denominator is 0 using the exact same == operator :) |
| 19:40.48 | Neffi | This means at some point they wrote broken code that produced a NaN, didn't know why it didnt work, and patched Lua to circumvent the bug |
| 19:41.28 | Neffi | Xinhuan: yes, that's fine. My gripe is that WoW's Lua is no longer IEEE754 compliant |
| 19:41.30 | Xinhuan | or ~= in your case |
| 19:42.25 | Xinhuan | why would an intern only patch it on winWoW and any other version of WoW? |
| 19:42.30 | Xinhuan | and not* |
| 19:42.43 | Neffi | I don't know |
| 19:42.47 | Xinhuan | you don't even make sense lol |
| 19:42.58 | Neffi | shrugs |
| 19:43.28 | foxlit | this probably started when non-release builds started throwing division-by-zero errors instead of returning inf/nan. |
| 19:45.05 | Stanzilla | I was about to mention that |
| 19:46.24 | karl_w_w | http://pocketmonster.kotaku.com/twitch-plays-pokemon-somehow-caught-them-all-1693136930 |
| 19:49.26 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=554_1427122292 |
| 19:51.58 | fewyn | http://blog.twitch.tv/2015/03/important-notice-about-your-twitch-account/ |
| 20:00.22 | Primer | I blame Amazon |
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| 20:10.57 | foxlit | suppose an array of 3n elements contains n triples, and I wanted to sort it in-place lexicographically. |
| 20:12.01 | foxlit | i.e. sort({4,2,1, 1,3,5, 2,9,1}) == {1,3,5, 2,9,1, 4,2,1} |
| 20:12.15 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: Do you ever wonder if you are spending a bit to much time on addons? |
| 20:15.08 | Primer | too* |
| 20:16.06 | karl_w_w | http://imgur.com/lM5A4 |
| 20:16.36 | Thunder_Child | s/to/too/ |
| 20:17.19 | foxlit | no. |
| 20:24.48 | Cidan | if you have a passion, you kinda just... do it I suppose |
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| 20:56.25 | fewyn | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AsoSnOmhvU |
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| 21:01.32 | zenzelezz | https://twitter.com/warpzonetweets/status/580088970329083904 - for those who need a refresher on GoT characters |
| 21:05.31 | Arrowmaster | they just used the same image from a few years ago |
| 21:07.09 | zenzelezz | my memory hardly got months back, so it's new to me |
| 21:07.13 | zenzelezz | *go |
| 21:07.30 | zenzelezz | or *goes or something... too tired |
| 21:13.52 | foxlit | grumble, patching the encoding table is slower than redownloading it for me :( |
| 21:14.51 | zenzelezz | encoding table? |
| 21:16.03 | foxlit | some 50mb thing. |
| 21:16.58 | foxlit | comparatively, the patch is 500kb. |
| 21:19.27 | karl_w_w | yes but your time patching it is free to them |
| 21:22.36 | foxlit | in this case, it's my code and my time. |
| 21:24.17 | foxlit | http://pastebin.com/eGgQUrmx << there, it's only mildly insane. |
| 21:25.08 | nevcairiel | your code is mildly insane because you live of two letter variables |
| 21:29.22 | foxlit | I thought it was because it was doing binary addition of strings. |
| 21:29.43 | foxlit | in a language with immutable strings. |
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| 21:40.26 | Stanzilla | Guest60243: ping |
| 21:41.04 | nevcairiel | is that purl |
| 21:41.07 | Thunder_Child | No |
| 21:41.14 | Thunder_Child | purl is 58745 |
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| 21:41.57 | Stanzilla | that is TOM_RUS |
| 21:42.01 | nevcairiel | poor purl, still in identity crysis |
| 21:58.31 | Guest60243 | Stanzilla, sup |
| 22:02.23 | Stanzilla | Guest18878: in DraenorTreasures, can you change "requires Lumber Mill" to "requires Lumber Yard"? :o |
| 22:02.54 | Stanzilla | I only remembered when levelling this toon that I was confused by that, at first I thought you need the garrison building for it |
| 22:03.13 | nevcairiel | nothing can help your confusion |
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| 22:06.26 | mckenziemc | uses Confusion against nevcairiel |
| 22:06.37 | nevcairiel | Immune! |
| 22:07.28 | mckenziemc | you're clearly confused |
| 22:12.54 | foxlit | psst, proofread my change notes? http://pastebin.com/YVqh7p8z |
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| 22:13.32 | foxlit | (also for things that just seem confusing) |
| 22:32.23 | mikma | https://youtu.be/yYPCe372meM eyecandyyyyyyyyh! |
| 22:33.02 | mikma | shirik: you might like it, it has two steps from hell -music ;) |
| 22:35.42 | Stanzilla | oh that was the wrong guest |
| 22:35.47 | mikma | znf: http://imgur.com/gallery/v567L |
| 22:35.49 | Constie | foxlit: "outside the for" on line 5, "returnng" on line 17. |
| 22:35.56 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/AG8Z3iq.png get destroyed, enlightened. 73000 square kilometres. |
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| 22:36.04 | Stanzilla | Guest60243: in DraenorTreasures, can you change "requires Lumber Mill" to "requires Lumber Yard"? :o I only remembered when levelling this toon that I was confused by that, at first I thought you need the garrison building for it |
| 22:36.15 | Constie | And should it be "Encoded table chunks", maybe? i dunno lol |
| 22:37.36 | mikma | karl_w_w: choo choo, http://imgur.com/gallery/CqzW7wA |
| 22:39.30 | foxlit | Constie: thanks; encoding is a name in this context. |
| 22:39.43 | karl_w_w | not a big train :( |
| 22:40.54 | mikma | you want a big one, huh |
| 22:42.05 | mikma | karl_w_w: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaMMuyn3X9I |
| 22:54.44 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.05 | foxlit | let me know if it works/blows up in your face? |
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| 23:19.53 | mckenziemc | townlong yak? o.O |
| 23:20.46 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.45 | mckenziemc | oh, my pi arrived today \o/ |
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| 23:31.26 | mckenziemc | can they boot to an external hard drive? i neglected to order a microSD card but i have a hard drive adapter around |
| 23:48.35 | fewyn | and another 100 is done |
| 23:50.55 | Stanzilla | fewyn: your 13th or so? |
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| 23:51.54 | fewyn | 19 Stanzilla |
| 23:52.13 | kullervo | 19 what? |
| 23:52.38 | kullervo | if you say legendary quest rings, I'll have to recommend you some other hobbies |
| 23:52.43 | Stanzilla | lvl 100 toons |
| 23:52.50 | Stanzilla | not bad fewyn |
| 23:53.02 | Stanzilla | I'm at 9 atm |
| 23:53.07 | kullervo | oh right the levels go to 100 as well |
| 23:53.15 | Stanzilla | 2 at the 715 ring, 4 at the 690 ring |
| 23:53.17 | Stanzilla | :o |
| 23:53.29 | fewyn | https://www.wowthing.org/u/fewyn/ |
| 23:53.49 | Stanzilla | creative names :D |
| 23:53.55 | kullervo | I'm basically like... "nuuuuuuu" when it comes to doing anything at all on alts |
| 23:53.56 | fewyn | it's anomyzed |
| 23:54.03 | Stanzilla | ah ok |
| 23:54.17 | kullervo | gearing up my dk atm though, since I have to solo imperial vizier to spite a guildie |
| 23:54.27 | fewyn | going to work on my shaman next i think |
| 23:54.28 | kullervo | yes this is a good reason to do something |
| 23:54.32 | fewyn | well... horde shaman |
| 23:54.50 | fewyn | http://i.imgur.com/082CTlV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/TAylMCO.jpg |
