| 00:01.25 | mckenziemc | you're wiping faster? |
| 00:02.06 | Primer | Semlar: what's the raid comp? |
| 00:02.51 | Primer | I've been running with 2 raids because my main raid, which is some times 25 people (yes, we only do heroic), has a much harder time at shit than my other raid, which is at most 13 people |
| 00:03.06 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.36 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.44 | Primer | Not surprised to see disc priest topping heals |
| 00:04.08 | Primer | we pulled it once with 11 people and 3 heals and the pally and I were sustaining over 50k HPS |
| 00:04.23 | Primer | and at the rate we were going, our mana wasn't going to last long |
| 00:08.14 | Primer | Ditch the SP, IMO |
| 00:09.46 | Semlar | yeah we're gearing them up |
| 00:10.09 | Primer | yeah, definitely looks like a carry |
| 00:10.13 | Primer | which you can't afford |
| 00:10.23 | Semlar | we don't have the dps to burst down the elementalists with them, but we also could coordinate it better |
| 00:10.53 | znf | have the SP mind control |
| 00:10.53 | znf | ... |
| 00:10.56 | znf | slaps Primer |
| 00:11.14 | Primer | That's a lose/lose |
| 00:11.14 | znf | also have the disc mind control |
| 00:11.31 | Primer | No way! The disc is carrying the healing! |
| 00:11.44 | Jamash | based on the death log you guys need more FR |
| 00:11.52 | Semlar | FIRE RESIST |
| 00:12.05 | znf | the healing is irrelevant in p1 :P |
| 00:12.14 | Semlar | you're irrelevant in p1 |
| 00:12.30 | znf | if you do it the MC way, you're done with it in 1 minute and half :P |
| 00:12.53 | Semlar | is there some way to reduce mind control breaking |
| 00:13.02 | Semlar | because they had mind control break on the engineers multiple times |
| 00:13.24 | Jamash | yeah, stack more hit |
| 00:13.32 | Jamash | god, I'm unhelpful |
| 00:13.34 | znf | don't go out of range... |
| 00:13.37 | znf | that's the only way it breaks |
| 00:13.38 | Jamash | ~lart Jamash |
| 00:13.38 | purl | smacks Jamash up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 00:13.47 | Semlar | i don't believe they moved the engineers at all |
| 00:13.57 | znf | it also ends after 30seconds... |
| 00:14.05 | Semlar | i mean it was breaking early |
| 00:14.12 | znf | user error |
| 00:14.15 | Semlar | could be |
| 00:14.34 | kd3 | wtf atlanta http://www.neighbornewspapers.com/view/full_story/26510079/article-Sandy-Springs-garbage-man-s-sentence-reduced-after-outcry?instance=all |
| 00:14.41 | znf | there's only 2 ways it can break: you run out of range (ie: you take the mob too far away from you), or it ends on time :P |
| 00:14.50 | znf | or something else kills you, but that's a different story :D |
| 00:15.27 | znf | the way we do it, with pre-stealth (spectral guise) so we run closer to the engineer on pull |
| 00:15.44 | Jamash | so there's still priest MC in raids, huh? crazy |
| 00:15.53 | Semlar | does that say he got a 30 day prison sentence for picking up trash too early |
| 00:15.54 | znf | it makes p1 trivial in this fight |
| 00:16.27 | znf | and some people claim it's mandatory in mythic, but I doubt it |
| 00:16.46 | Jamash | seems like blizz has been on a crusade to get rid of that sort of wacky mechanic |
| 00:16.58 | Semlar | yeah, i couldn't believe it was even a thing |
| 00:17.07 | znf | it's pretty cool |
| 00:17.13 | Semlar | they go way out of their way to prevent you from having to bring a specific class to a raid |
| 00:17.29 | znf | well, you don't have to bring it, but it certainly makes shit easier when you have it :P |
| 00:17.33 | Semlar | and then they have one fight in the instance that seems to be significantly easier with a shadow priest |
| 00:18.03 | Semlar | 2 shadow priests, really |
| 00:18.14 | znf | or just 2 priests |
| 00:18.15 | znf | :P |
| 00:18.24 | Jamash | it's good to have encounters that make people happy to be playing their class/spec |
| 00:18.24 | Semlar | we aren't having our healer MC |
| 00:18.35 | znf | what is he even doing in P1? wanking? |
| 00:18.39 | Semlar | healing |
| 00:19.18 | znf | judging by the performance of your paly/shaman, they can pick up the slack easy |
| 00:19.40 | Jamash | but what about all that smite dps? |
| 00:19.40 | znf | seeing that they do 50% overhealing |
| 00:19.44 | Primer | You should be showing healing meter as well, IMO, Semlar |
| 00:19.57 | Semlar | i'm not on the healing meter |
| 00:20.00 | znf | https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yz168YfDbJTHGVwX#type=healing&fight=2&start=777877&end=820227 |
| 00:20.39 | znf | our raid leader was not happy about the MC-ing thingie either |
| 00:20.45 | znf | but when he realized how much easier the fight is... |
| 00:20.58 | Semlar | that's because it really seems like something blizzard has been trying to avoid |
| 00:21.21 | Semlar | i mean i don't mind that they can make use of mind control, i just think it's weird |
| 00:21.26 | Jamash | I for one am happy to get to flex my class mechanics |
| 00:21.37 | znf | yeah, I'm happy to do something else for a change |
| 00:21.48 | Semlar | kind of like that fight in naxx |
| 00:21.54 | Jamash | ...except hunter kiting on gluth |
| 00:21.57 | Semlar | where you could mind control the guys and tank the boss |
| 00:21.58 | Primer | especially since you're at the bottom of the DPS already, right znf? |
| 00:22.10 | znf | not really |
| 00:22.15 | Jamash | for some reason all my years of kiting practice always pooped out on gluth |
| 00:22.42 | znf | Semlar, you can also MC the security guards in p2 :P |
| 00:22.48 | znf | so you can tank the elemental |
| 00:22.58 | Semlar | what does that get you |
| 00:23.10 | Semlar | more damage on the elemental? |
| 00:23.38 | znf | yes + faster getting the elemental on the primalist |
| 00:23.41 | Semlar | can you put their stupid shield on cooldown |
| 00:24.09 | znf | you get 2 abilities - one to taunt the elemental, the other is 100% damage increase on it |
| 00:24.14 | znf | damage taken |
| 00:24.27 | Semlar | it's 50% |
| 00:24.35 | Semlar | it doesn't prevent it from casting though does it |
| 00:24.47 | znf | is it? I thought it was 100 |
| 00:24.56 | znf | no, it doesn't prevent it from casting |
| 00:25.14 | znf | but it helps when whoever has the elemental is clueless or slow to stack :P |
| 00:25.41 | Semlar | how do you mop up the adds after you get the first elementalist down |
| 00:25.54 | Semlar | it seems like there are a crapton of mobs |
| 00:26.16 | Semlar | are you expected to kill them all before you start the next one |
| 00:26.44 | znf | which kind of ads? the elementals are taken care of, the security guards are dotted up and tanked by one of the tanks |
| 00:26.58 | znf | then the firecallers are cleaved down, usually |
| 00:27.30 | Semlar | there are probably 2 firecallers, 2 security guards and a handful of elementals |
| 00:27.57 | Semlar | assuming you can kill it in one shot |
| 00:28.28 | znf | you should be able to kill it in one go, like I already mentioned |
| 00:28.33 | Semlar | they're being tanked away from the elementalist so they won't be getting cleaved |
| 00:28.48 | znf | why? |
| 00:28.55 | Semlar | because of the shields |
| 00:29.04 | znf | those are the security guards |
| 00:29.11 | znf | have one tank just on security guards duty |
| 00:29.17 | znf | take them miles away |
| 00:29.40 | Semlar | so one tank is only tanking security guards |
| 00:29.48 | znf | yeah |
| 00:30.01 | znf | the other can bring everything else to the primalist |
| 00:30.06 | znf | or around that general direction |
| 00:30.24 | Semlar | do you have your guard tank help damage the elementalist you're trying to get down |
| 00:30.41 | Semlar | i guess its damage is a lot less important with more people |
| 00:31.03 | Semlar | we only had 11 people and an undergeared shadowpriest |
| 00:31.27 | znf | no, we don't have him do anything else except guards at that point |
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| 00:32.41 | znf | your Shadow Priest is using dots |
| 00:32.54 | znf | Why is he using dots outside dotweaving? |
| 00:33.12 | Semlar | don't ask me |
| 00:33.23 | Semlar | i'm a huntar |
| 00:33.31 | Thunder_Child | +d |
| 00:33.36 | znf | well, he's playing his spec wrong |
| 00:33.37 | Semlar | THE D IS SILENT |
| 00:33.48 | Thunder_Child | Not if it is done well. |
| 00:34.59 | znf | Where did you pick up this guy? |
| 00:35.03 | znf | My alt is better geared |
| 00:35.37 | znf | Have him play CoP and not AS on that fight, he doesn't have +Crit to kill a fly |
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| 01:41.53 | fewyn | joy, someone stole my wiiu |
| 01:41.59 | fewyn | just the gamepad and the console |
| 01:42.03 | kd3 | :( |
| 01:42.07 | fewyn | they left the sensor bar and and hdmi cables |
| 01:42.22 | kullervo | so this someone broke in to do that? |
| 01:42.43 | fewyn | they didn't take anything else |
| 01:42.54 | fewyn | it was downstairs last night |
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| 01:51.20 | kd3 | this threw me off for so long: Iron Taskmaster's Held to Task ability no longer plays the level up sound effect when used. |
| 01:54.11 | Semlar | as a ranged character i never got to hear this |
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| 01:55.58 | kullervo | kd3: yeah some other raid sounds shouldn't have been reused either |
| 01:56.11 | kullervo | like the first trash miniboss in HM |
| 01:58.00 | Semlar | maybe they just moved it fewyn |
| 01:58.11 | fewyn | no |
| 01:58.13 | fewyn | no one did |
| 01:58.17 | fewyn | it's not downstairs |
| 01:58.53 | fewyn | my mother wouldn't touch it |
| 01:59.05 | fewyn | and both my brothers say they didn't either |
| 01:59.33 | Semlar | maybe |
| 01:59.53 | Semlar | was it in the way |
| 02:00.08 | fewyn | no it was on the tv stand |
| 02:00.36 | Semlar | who had motive means and opportunity |
| 02:00.43 | fewyn | going to have to start locking everything in my room |
| 02:00.59 | Semlar | we must investigate.. |
| 02:01.06 | fewyn | since it's obviously not stopping people from coming into the living and taking shit |
| 02:01.23 | Semlar | how much traffic does your living room get from random people |
| 02:01.29 | fewyn | should be 0 |
| 02:01.37 | fewyn | but the locks on this apartment are shitty |
| 02:01.46 | Semlar | you think someone really just walked in and took it |
| 02:01.47 | fewyn | hopefully we're moving soon |
| 02:01.50 | fewyn | yeah |
| 02:01.56 | fewyn | i do now at least |
| 02:01.57 | Semlar | how much crime you got over there |
| 02:03.05 | pompy | ~calm Semlar |
| 02:03.05 | purl | ACTION sooths Semlar, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm Semlar down. |
| 02:03.14 | fewyn | http://www.crimemapping.com/Map.aspx?aid=af0ae2fe-10c5-4547-ad18-564ef9e6358a |
| 02:04.14 | fewyn | i just hate this entire stupid state |
| 02:05.20 | Semlar | WHAT, 0 crimes in my area in the last couple weeks? that can't be right |
| 02:05.32 | Semlar | this site must be broken |
| 02:05.59 | kd3 | or your police just aren't reporting there. I'm not seeing any in my area either |
| 02:06.08 | Neffi | Semlar: are you ok? |
| 02:06.12 | Neffi | are you ok, Semlar? |
| 02:06.24 | Neffi | you've been hit by... you've been struck by... a smooth criminal |
| 02:06.26 | Neffi | dances |
| 02:06.57 | Semlar | ah here we go |
| 02:07.00 | pompy | yeah says 0 for my area too and according to my towns police blotter, thats not the case. |
| 02:07.00 | Semlar | crimereports.com |
| 02:07.22 | Semlar | robbery, theft, assault, much better |
| 02:08.12 | Semlar | well this is disconcerting |
| 02:08.57 | fewyn | oh god the amount of registered sex offenders |
| 02:09.07 | Semlar | yeah.. |
| 02:09.23 | Semlar | well this is awkward |
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| 02:10.21 | pompy | still says 0 for my area on crimereports.com |
| 02:15.10 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.49 | mikma | http://apina.biz/128758 |
| 02:17.04 | mikma | also, nsfw because of other pictures |
| 02:17.11 | mikma | forgot about the random titties |
| 02:18.47 | Semlar | how could you forget about something like that |
| 02:19.10 | Dagmar | Their acronym makes my head hurt. |
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| 02:27.37 | mikma | semlar: when you see them all of the time, they become "neutral" to you. but to others (usa folks) it's still a sin |
| 02:27.44 | mikma | semlar: hooray eu |
| 02:33.39 | Mr_Rabies | wow, the detail point lights look really good |
| 02:34.17 | Mr_Rabies | er, environment point lighting |
| 02:34.25 | Mr_Rabies | the torches in spires of arak look amazing |
| 02:34.36 | Dagmar | mikma: You say "sin" I say "perk of the job" |
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| 02:35.32 | fatguylaughing | Is there a way to load a frame by name that was created by CreateFrame()? |
| 02:35.49 | mikma | dagmar: perk of the job to be afraid of the titties? |
| 02:35.50 | fatguylaughing | Iâve been looking on the wowprogrammin.com references for the api calls. |
| 02:36.07 | fatguylaughing | Couldnât seem to find what Iâm looking for there |
| 02:36.18 | Dagmar | mikma: No, to get to see the titties |
| 02:36.18 | fatguylaughing | Iâve got to be overlooking this thing |
| 02:41.27 | mikma | fatguylaughing: titties? |
| 02:41.47 | fatguylaughing | mikma: Yeah, they make the world go round. |
| 02:42.01 | fatguylaughing | Just thought I might be in the Frame Widget. Looking at this one now. |
| 02:42.01 | mikma | you spin me right round baby right round |
| 02:42.47 | fatguylaughing | Like a record baby right round right round |
| 02:42.51 | fatguylaughing | opps |
| 02:42.56 | fatguylaughing | s/right round/round round |
| 02:51.58 | Semlar | what do you mean load |
| 02:52.50 | Semlar | the frame is loaded when you create it |
| 02:53.40 | mckenziemc | perhaps he means :Show() |
| 02:54.49 | fatguylaughing | Iâm creating a global checklist |
| 02:55.03 | fatguylaughing | The user can add as many checkbuttons that they would like to said list |
| 02:55.38 | fatguylaughing | The creation of the checkbuttons are happening in a function. So they are only there for that moment in time (code wise) |
| 02:56.13 | fatguylaughing | When the next checkbutton is addon to the list, I would like to grab the position of the last Checkbutton that was created. |
| 02:56.19 | fatguylaughing | Using GetPoint(). |
| 02:56.50 | fatguylaughing | However, I would need to âLoadâ the frame in order to run :GetPoint() on the previous frame. |
| 02:56.59 | mckenziemc | doesn't CreateFrame have an option to name the frame as a key-value in _G? |
| 02:57.05 | Simca | yes |
| 02:57.19 | mckenziemc | but it would be cleaner just to use locals |
| 02:57.26 | Simca | also an option |
| 02:58.34 | Simca | multiple approaches work: A) create a local table and store a reference to each frame as a table entry B) use the name parameter of CreateFrame to expose the frame globally |
| 02:59.16 | fatguylaughing | https://bitbucket.org/fatguylaughing/checklist So in CheckList.lua on line 51 you can see what I was attempting |
| 02:59.26 | Simca | if a frame is created without a name and its only references are not in your scope, then you can't 'load' it |
| 02:59.35 | fatguylaughing | Indeed |
| 03:00.08 | fatguylaughing | Ok so based off of what Iâm hearing is create the frames and add them to a local Table = {} to that file in order to retrieve them. |
| 03:00.26 | fatguylaughing | This way they are stored for later use. |
| 03:00.31 | Simca | yes, that is ideal |
| 03:01.01 | fatguylaughing | Was hoping the API had a way to load a frame by name :) Still getting used to how the widgets are intended to be utilized. |
| 03:01.14 | fatguylaughing | So used to having a load function for things like this. |
| 03:01.26 | Semlar | i don't know what that means |
| 03:01.39 | fatguylaughing | OOP? |
| 03:01.43 | Semlar | load |
| 03:01.49 | Semlar | what do you mean by load a frame |
| 03:02.16 | Simca | if the frame has a name, you can just local myFrame = _G.nameOfFrame |
| 03:02.26 | Simca | a global name* |
| 03:02.30 | Semlar | or just use its name? |
| 03:02.44 | Simca | yeah, no real need to localize it generally |
| 03:03.08 | fatguylaughing | With the background I come from, when you create something it is saved somewhere based on the fact that it was saved. Whether this is a sql database or a flat file. Then you have a function for that object that will load the object you are looking for by a UUID |
| 03:03.37 | Semlar | you just want a reference to the frame? |
| 03:03.37 | Simca | every frame created is always loaded |
| 03:03.38 | fatguylaughing | So itâs save place is in _G |
| 03:03.52 | Simca | in fact there is no way to delete a frame |
| 03:05.33 | fatguylaughing | Thanks for the information Simca, Semlar and mckenziemc |
| 03:05.34 | Simca | but in your case you probably want to do the table/array approach. it's far easier when you're working with a large list of very similar objects since you can just loop over every frame you control easily |
| 03:05.48 | Semlar | you can store a reference to the frame in a table, but if you're giving them global names like MyFrame1, MyFrame2, etc. you could iterate over them with _G['MyFrame' .. i] |
| 03:07.23 | fatguylaughing | I agree with both approaches. Iâm completely rewriting what Iâm creating now, after I finish it and have a better understanding of it all. |
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| 03:17.19 | Jamash | You should think of the wow lua environment as being more like a web browser script than a standalone application |
| 03:17.52 | fatguylaughing | Jamash: That makes more sense |
| 03:17.56 | fatguylaughing | Jamash: Thanks for that. |
| 03:18.05 | Jamash | you're welcome! |
| 03:18.36 | fatguylaughing | Hopefully Iâll stop asking some of the dumb question then. Probably not though :D |
| 03:18.57 | Jamash | man if dumb questions weren't allowed there'd be nobody left in this channel |
| 03:19.07 | fatguylaughing | Well the generation works perfect thanks Simca and Semlar |
| 03:19.43 | fatguylaughing | Jamash: Yeah, I program for a living and Iâm not worried about asking the dumb question. Itâs the reason why I know so much about the software I code for. |
| 03:20.08 | fatguylaughing | Itâs always nice to get to the point where the dumb questions are every once in a while :D |
| 03:20.21 | Jamash | I'm working on getting to program for a living, currently in the admissions process for WGu |
| 03:20.24 | Jamash | *WGU |
| 03:20.50 | fatguylaughing | Jamash: Nice |
| 03:21.15 | Arrowmaster | i do crazy shit and have zero formal coding background and get confused on terminology people use all the time |
| 03:21.47 | fewyn | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1853707494/pancakebot-the-worlds-first-pancake-printer |
| 03:21.58 | kullervo | ... why |
| 03:22.05 | fatguylaughing | Arrowmaster: Doesnât help when you do have formal background because there are a lot of people that donât so you run into the terminology problem all the time. |
| 03:22.06 | fewyn | why not? |
| 03:22.20 | fatguylaughing | Arrowmaster: Itâs better to just understand Context more than Terminologyt. |
| 03:22.34 | Arrowmaster | omg only $179, i fucking need that |
| 03:22.40 | fatguylaughing | lmfao |
| 03:22.42 | fatguylaughing | Indeed |
| 03:23.31 | Arrowmaster | windows/mac only, fuck |
| 03:23.36 | fatguylaughing | no linux? |
| 03:23.47 | Semlar | you people and your fancy book learning |
| 03:28.56 | Simca | Arrowmaster: proprietary pancake drivers too hard to port to linux |
| 03:29.28 | Arrowmaster | its probably just USB so no drivers needed, just the software |
| 03:29.38 | Simca | i know i was joking |
| 03:29.45 | kullervo | EVIL and NON-FREE, FREEDOM DENYING proprietary pancake drivers |
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| 05:26.15 | Tain | Fun, I sill recognize some names. |
| 05:52.02 | mckenziemc | who are you |
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| 05:53.46 | Tain | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:54.35 | mckenziemc | ohai Cairenn |
| 05:54.46 | Cairenn | Hi mckenziemc |
| 05:54.52 | Cairenn | Tain! LTNS! |
| 05:56.08 | Tain | Hi Cairenn. :) |
| 05:56.15 | Cairenn | How the hell are ya? |
| 05:57.04 | mckenziemc | i'm great, thanks for asking |
| 05:57.06 | mckenziemc | :D |
| 05:57.11 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 05:57.27 | Tain | Doing well. Living in Dalls, have my own place. A great job. |
| 05:57.34 | Cairenn | Excellent |
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| 05:59.26 | Tain | I'm not the old guy who can shock kids I hear talking about WoW by dropping some history knowledge on them. |
| 05:59.40 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:02.54 | Tain | How things going with you? |
| 06:03.04 | Cairenn | Doing pretty well. |
| 06:04.19 | Cairenn | Same stuff, different day. ;) |
| 06:04.21 | Tain | Up in Canuckistan? |
| 06:04.30 | Cairenn | Yeah |
| 06:05.05 | Cairenn | But it looks like spring may actually be coming! It was above freezing today. We are much excite! |
| 06:05.35 | Tain | I would like to politely ask that you build a wall across the US border so the cold gets trapped up there. |
| 06:06.06 | Cairenn | Screw that! You can have our cold. We don't want it! :p |
| 06:06.34 | Cairenn | Although I appreciate that you were polite about it. |
| 06:08.23 | Tain | It's just that I tried to visit my family three times since Novermber, including my neices' 3rd burthday party and all were cnceled by wether. |
| 06:08.32 | Cairenn | Ugh |
| 06:08.45 | Cairenn | Yeah, it's been a bad one, that's for sure |
| 06:10.32 | Tain | I haven't been playing games in a bit. I spent a bit of time in Marvel Heroes which is f2p unless you actually want to play. |
| 06:10.42 | Tain | But I do think there's a fun game there. |
| 06:10.48 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:11.38 | Tain | TV, movies, sex, what have you been doin? |
| 06:11.49 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:12.03 | Cairenn | Running the sites, takes up the majority of my time. |
| 06:12.30 | Tain | Seems like it. |
| 06:13.02 | Cairenn | Well, 10 sites plus all the things that go along with them ... |
| 06:13.12 | Tain | I don't mean to pry but the last time I really talked with you thete was some ambiguity and loosely definited things around your marriage. |
| 06:13.56 | Cairenn | We're still together - although he's still in the US, so that sucks, but /shrug |
| 06:14.26 | Tain | I'm glad you're still making it work. |
| 06:14.33 | Arrowmaster | that hasnt changed in years has it |
| 06:14.40 | Cairenn | Yeah. It's hard as hell, but |
| 06:14.47 | Cairenn | Nope @ Arrowmaster |
| 06:15.36 | Cairenn | He's been down there for 13 years now - very used to it, but still hard |
| 06:17.11 | Tain | Is the addon community still going strong ? |
| 06:17.32 | Cairenn | points at there being 149 people in the channel. ;) |
| 06:17.34 | Arrowmaster | were still here |
| 06:18.00 | Tain | Yes, but are they producing, or are they just hanger's on? |
| 06:18.00 | Cairenn | Any chance you're coming back, Tain? |
| 06:18.14 | Cairenn | It's still pretty active |
| 06:18.31 | Arrowmaster | im a hanger on |
| 06:18.35 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:19.01 | Constie | I'm a hanger is on. |
| 06:19.13 | Kowh | waves. Hanger-on #5623. |
| 06:19.18 | Stanzilla | I'm on a hanger |
| 06:19.19 | Arrowmaster | i havent had an active wow account since early wrath |
| 06:19.36 | Kowh | I keep meaning to write a WoW addon, but keep playing WoW instead. :D |
| 06:19.57 | Tain | I"m not sure. I'm looking for things to get involved with to get away from drinking. |
| 06:20.03 | Arrowmaster | i keep meaning to write some WoW addons to earn some money |
| 06:20.16 | Tain | I did enjoyu learning what could and could't be done. |
| 06:20.31 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 06:20.37 | Kowh | Still coasting on my Wildstar addon for Curse premium. :D |
| 06:20.44 | Constie | There's a good buck in that racket. |
| 06:21.01 | Tain | Afterall I unnkowingly cause the UI dev team to change how they handled minimap tracking with an addon. |
| 06:21.21 | Cairenn | heh, yup, you did |
| 06:21.34 | Cairenn | a number of you caused changes over time |
| 06:21.54 | Semlar | i bet i could cause some changes |
| 06:22.14 | Semlar | is this a contest to see who can break the most things? |
| 06:22.19 | Cairenn | nope |
| 06:22.22 | Semlar | aw :( |
| 06:22.23 | Tain | I was absolutely honored to have a phone interview with the dev tem. Even if it never went anywhere. |
| 06:22.34 | Tain | Thank you for that, Cairenn. |
| 06:22.35 | Cairenn | just reminiscing |
| 06:22.37 | Arrowmaster | Kowh: i think i have permanent curse premium but the payout has gone down so low |
| 06:22.41 | Cairenn | :) |
| 06:23.26 | Kowh | If I wanted money, I probably wouldn't have made it MIT licensed. Also probably wouldn't have made it for Wildstar. :D |
| 06:25.27 | Tain | I made cookies, that has to count for something. |
| 06:25.58 | Cairenn | Indeed |
| 06:28.44 | Tain | Once I sort out my blizzard authenticator I'll see what's up. |
| 06:28.53 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 06:30.45 | Fisker | hey Cairenn |
| 06:32.13 | Tain | I did it all for the nooike, you know. |
| 06:33.06 | Cairenn | Hey Fisker |
| 06:33.09 | Cairenn | Tain: lol |
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| 07:25.22 | VIad | quite enjoying atm http://www.wowhead.com/sound=49536 |
| 07:56.43 | karl_w_w | if it's invincible how come can I hear it? |
| 07:58.42 | Neffi | ~lart karl_w_w |
| 07:58.42 | purl | cuts off karl_w_w's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 07:59.00 | Neffi | wow purl |
| 08:04.25 | Semlar | tries to calm purl down |
| 08:06.47 | Neffi | ~whalenuke Semlar |
| 08:06.48 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Semlar with his mind powers. |
| 08:06.49 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:07.00 | Shirik | do you guys ever sleep? |
| 08:07.10 | Semlar | what's that |
| 08:07.27 | Neffi | do you? |
| 08:07.32 | Semlar | is that what you do between writing addons? |
| 08:08.05 | Shirik | all I know is I woke up and you guys were talking, and now I'm going to sleep and you guys are talking |
| 08:08.21 | Semlar | we just got up at the same time as you |
| 08:08.41 | Semlar | or maybe we're just figments of your imagination |
| 08:08.45 | Neffi | very possible. i shouldve been asleep a few hours ago. going to sleep now |
| 08:08.54 | Semlar | think of me |
| 08:08.58 | Neffi | kk |
| 08:09.04 | Semlar | come up with a name for my addon |
| 08:09.13 | Neffi | what does it do? |
| 08:09.22 | Semlar | it lists out the items you own that have the same appearance |
| 08:09.47 | Semlar | so like if you have duplicates of the same appearance and you're only holding onto it for transmog you can toss the extras |
| 08:10.59 | Neffi | Gemini |
| 08:11.03 | Semlar | maybe |
| 08:11.36 | Neffi | goes to sleep |
| 08:11.41 | Shirik | how do you know you're awake? |
| 08:11.46 | Semlar | people might confuse it with the space program |
| 08:11.53 | Shirik | maybe the other world is the real one |
| 08:13.50 | Neffi | jaden smith is using shirik's computer again |
| 08:25.14 | Shirik | soooo |
| 08:25.19 | Shirik | wikimedia foundation is suing the NSA |
| 08:25.22 | Shirik | this should be fun |
| 08:25.52 | Shirik | https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/03/10/wikimedia-v-nsa/ |
| 08:37.35 | nevcairiel | as if thats going to do anything =p |
| 08:37.54 | nevcairiel | is wikipedias next fund raiser soon? guess they needed to get into the news |
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| 08:51.37 | haste | isn't there one right now? |
| 08:52.25 | nevcairiel | isnt there always? |
| 09:07.59 | Semlar | lady justice has some very tasteful pasties |
| 09:08.15 | znf | I read it as "panties" |
| 09:08.18 | haste | same |
| 09:08.28 | rid_ | same |
| 09:08.44 | Semlar | >_> |
| 09:08.51 | haste | we're dirty people :( |
| 09:09.07 | rid_ | nothing to be sad about |
| 09:25.08 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 09:25.18 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 09:25.23 | rid_ | hey Fisker |
| 09:25.49 | Fisker | hey rid_ |
| 09:25.51 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
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| 09:29.40 | rid_ | hey |
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| 13:19.19 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:27.18 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Fiskerdin. It be Twosdaze. |
| 13:33.37 | Fisker | So we're both dazed? |
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| 14:52.23 | sylvanaar | What do the little icons mean in the guild roster? They look just like the twitter icon |
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| 15:18.03 | Arrowmaster | its probably the twitter icon then? |
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| 16:10.50 | Neffi | .... wow |
| 16:10.51 | Neffi | http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/03/cutting-edge-hack-gives-super-user-status-by-exploiting-dram-weakness/ |
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| 16:48.59 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 16:49.45 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:23.09 | karl_w_w | 30 windows updates Fisker |
| 17:24.38 | karl_w_w | and not one of them has a kb article yet |
| 17:26.17 | Neffi | waits a few days to update usually. |
| 17:26.37 | Neffi | I don't wanna be one of the people who installed a bad update before it got pulled <_< |
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| 17:30.18 | karl_w_w | I'd prefer to have to get rid of a dodgy update over getting a virus on wednesday |
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| 17:35.38 | pompy | http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/jeremy-clarkson-suspended-top-gear-presenter-suspended-by-the-bbc-10098866.html |
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| 17:38.18 | karl_w_w | so it was a fracas, and not a ruckus? |
| 17:38.21 | karl_w_w | this is critical |
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| 17:48.07 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:48.11 | Fisker | I hope you win against the nsa |
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| 18:19.12 | karl_w_w | im extremely tempted to buy cities skylines and immediately try to build my city |
| 18:27.24 | karl_w_w | this guy is pretty entertaining http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmrvmGSwPnQ |
| 18:30.24 | Gethe | karl_w_w: thats what i was thinking |
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| 18:47.11 | Semlar | so all of my characters are missing |
| 18:48.54 | Ressy | o.O |
| 18:48.55 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.07 | Neffi | did you try cnnecting to the server? |
| 18:49.11 | Semlar | yes |
| 18:49.14 | Neffi | sometimes the client isn't aware of how many characters you have |
| 18:49.17 | Neffi | did you... |
| 18:49.17 | karl_w_w | that can't be good |
| 18:49.20 | Semlar | it brought up a new player box basically when i logged in |
| 18:49.21 | Neffi | try turning it off and on again? |
| 18:49.41 | karl_w_w | did you log into ptr or something? :P |
| 18:49.45 | Semlar | nope |
| 18:49.55 | Semlar | not even really possible, the bnet thing logs into my account |
| 18:50.52 | Semlar | well it thinks i'm on a starter edition so that's interesting |
| 18:51.04 | Semlar | let's try this again |
| 18:51.19 | karl_w_w | i have bnet login queue myself |
| 18:51.50 | Semlar | alright, it somehow logged me into a different version of the game |
| 18:52.02 | Semlar | CRISIS AVERTED |
| 18:52.38 | Neffi | \o/ |
| 18:52.44 | karl_w_w | this estimated wait of <1 minute is taking much more than 1 minute |
| 18:52.58 | Semlar | it's not very good with numbers |
| 18:53.15 | Semlar | i got gemini working neffi |
| 18:53.16 | Simca | Mentor trait on Harrison Jones is slightly amazing |
| 18:53.26 | Neffi | \o/ |
| 18:53.28 | Semlar | what's it do |
| 18:53.31 | Simca | follower went from level 90 to 400 xp from 99 |
| 18:53.44 | Semlar | :O |
| 18:53.48 | Simca | makes all other followers on the mission have the same effective level and itemlevel as harrison jones |
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| 18:53.58 | Semlar | interesting |
| 18:54.03 | Simca | so they don't get any EXP penalties for being low level |
| 18:54.43 | Simca | http://i.imgur.com/TinGho8.png his first mission after being recruited |
| 18:55.05 | Semlar | fo sho |
| 18:55.21 | Simca | also foxlit: Master Plan does not properly calculate XP gains with Mentor |
| 18:57.03 | Simca | Semlar: http://i.imgur.com/8fPoeLf.jpg level 98, ilvl 637 :D |
| 18:57.20 | Semlar | hax |
| 18:57.47 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.01 | karl_w_w | http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3036228 now that is a windows update I'm certain I don't need |
| 18:58.02 | Fisker | h e y Simca |
| 18:58.35 | karl_w_w | I can safely say this particular installation of windows is never going to magically transfer itself to a system with an ARM processor |
| 18:58.59 | zenzelezz | not without losing an arm and a leg |
| 18:59.25 | karl_w_w | murders zenzelezz |
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| 19:00.06 | zenzelezz | every year I get more surprised when I see halls of mirrors in games |
| 19:00.36 | karl_w_w | I don't remember ever seeing a hall of mirrors in a game |
| 19:01.32 | Fisker | 4 0 4 karl_w_w |
| 19:02.20 | karl_w_w | I am right here Fisker :( |
| 19:02.28 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noclip_mode#Visual_glitches ? |
| 19:02.47 | zenzelezz | I remember it used to be somewhat common back when games used BSP maps a lot |
| 19:05.36 | karl_w_w | don't think I've ever seen that before |
| 19:06.56 | zenzelezz | hm, looks like I inadvertently let the cycle continue at the end of ME3 |
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| 19:10.58 | karl_w_w | http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/81460-amd-freesync-enabled-driver-update-19th-march/ |
| 19:14.02 | Stanzilla | lol amd |
| 19:14.46 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/Fby4hg9.png |
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| 19:45.53 | VIad | karl_w_w: just finished a game where server disconnected all of us 3 times -_- |
| 19:46.15 | VIad | why does dota suck like this? never hear LOL or HON players complain about disconnects like that |
| 19:47.11 | zenzelezz | HoN? Is that still alive? |
| 19:48.26 | karl_w_w | not really |
| 19:51.16 | VIad | as alive as everquest is |
| 19:51.32 | VIad | and it's still alive isn't it? :p |
| 19:52.20 | zenzelezz | probably not much longer, if Daybreak keeps up |
| 19:53.46 | VIad | btw I love venomancer |
| 19:53.55 | VIad | why is he so unplayed, karl_w_w? |
| 19:55.05 | karl_w_w | no stuns, no nukes, no right click |
| 19:55.07 | karl_w_w | I wonder |
| 19:55.14 | VIad | he has a ton of slows! |
| 19:55.37 | VIad | and vision |
| 19:55.39 | VIad | so many wards |
| 19:55.47 | VIad | can push well with those |
| 19:55.54 | VIad | while scouting nearby for gankers |
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| 20:58.21 | jnwhiteh | Stanzilla: any specific issue with tomtom i can look at later this week.. maybe |
| 21:02.01 | Stanzilla | jnwhiteh: no it's just astrolabe sucking |
| 21:02.40 | Stanzilla | jnwhiteh: simca made this if you want to take a look http://www.curseforge.com/paste/11773/ |
| 21:02.46 | Stanzilla | could maybe update your version to it |
| 21:06.30 | jnwhiteh | wah no diff |
| 21:06.35 | jnwhiteh | i'll keep this up and see if i can look at it |
| 21:06.38 | jnwhiteh | things are insane here =/ |
| 21:06.39 | nevcairiel | that version doesnt really fix any of the big issues with it |
| 21:06.48 | nevcairiel | only the missing zone info |
| 21:06.59 | nevcairiel | (which is a work around for a blizzard bug) |
| 21:08.48 | g0urra | the devs for hotline miami 2 must have been high when they came up with the bear mask |
| 21:08.55 | Stanzilla | yeah the performance is still bad |
| 21:09.10 | g0urra | "here, we'll give you weapons that you can't get rid off, and you can't pick up new ones" |
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| 21:10.07 | Semlar | if you tell me what tomtom needs from astrolabe i can replace it |
| 21:10.55 | Torhal | Stanzilla: It's amazing how long it takes to load when you log out in the Garrison. |
| 21:11.10 | Stanzilla | Torhal: powered by astrolabe, yes |
| 21:11.12 | nevcairiel | i still dont suffer from that problem |
| 21:11.16 | Torhal | I didn't actually time it, but it's approaching a minute if not over. |
| 21:11.20 | nevcairiel | login in the garrison is fast |
| 21:11.27 | Semlar | good lord |
| 21:11.35 | Torhal | I log in my AH toon, and boom. |
| 21:11.58 | Stanzilla | Semlar: Tomtom uses GetNumFloors and GetMapID as far as I can see |
| 21:12.16 | Stanzilla | and GetMapInfo and |
| 21:12.18 | Stanzilla | more |
| 21:12.19 | Stanzilla | a lot |
| 21:12.29 | Semlar | okay i don't think most of that is necessary for what tomtom does |
| 21:12.46 | Torhal | I think nevcairiel should just come up with an API. |
| 21:12.53 | Torhal | And then rip that stuff out of GatherMate. |
| 21:12.54 | nevcairiel | but my laziness is winning |
| 21:12.55 | Stanzilla | yeah he is just lazy |
| 21:12.55 | Torhal | >.> |
| 21:12.56 | nevcairiel | every time |
| 21:13.03 | Stanzilla | MORE PRESSURE |
| 21:13.38 | znf | :-( |
| 21:13.44 | Semlar | the terrain ID, the floor and the global x, y coordinates should be all you need to point to anything unless you want to restrict it to a specific map and then that can be stored too |
| 21:13.44 | znf | people are just melting in this damn last phase :( |
| 21:13.45 | znf | I don't get it |
| 21:13.56 | Torhal | Because really, Astrolabe needs to go away at this point. Essamyn is obviously not interested in maintaining it, and he's been doing the same thing to Gatherer for a few years now. |
| 21:15.05 | jnwhiteh | we'll figure it out |
| 21:15.14 | jnwhiteh | i've had family priorities to attend to |
| 21:18.01 | Semlar | i can support /way <map name> x y without changing the map or storing any map data |
| 21:18.30 | Torhal | But can you support a family of 8, Semlar? |
| 21:18.37 | Semlar | no |
| 21:18.48 | Torhal | :/ |
| 21:19.10 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.29 | Semlar | it's perfect |
| 21:20.29 | karl_w_w | stupid idea award goes to: http://torrentfreak.com/movie-group-to-kill-piracy-by-not-releasing-movies-for-months-150309/ |
| 21:21.33 | Semlar | i assumed they were already doing this in america by releasing nothing worth watching |
| 21:26.19 | Semlar | i'm confused as to why they think piracy won't just start back up when they finally do release their movies |
| 21:26.31 | Semlar | how did they reach this conclusion |
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| 22:39.03 | kd3 | gah at patch tuesday. a bit over a gig? |
| 22:39.30 | Funkeh` | there's a patch? |
| 22:39.37 | kd3 | 2nd tuesday of the month |
| 22:39.42 | kd3 | not wow |
| 22:39.44 | Funkeh` | oh, windows |
| 22:42.30 | Mr_Rabies | mine's at about 200 MB |
| 22:42.43 | Mr_Rabies | but i'm running windows 7 sooo |
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| 23:01.07 | g0urra | 52.4 MB here |
| 23:02.16 | Stanzilla | depends of you have office installed or not |
| 23:02.21 | Stanzilla | I had 1,2gb too |
| 23:02.43 | Thunder_Child | I havent updated in a while so I had ~50 updates or so. |
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