| 00:28.02 | jnwhiteh | so I've come to the decision that there's no suitable android phone on the market at the moment. |
| 00:28.05 | jnwhiteh | That makes me really sad |
| 00:28.34 | jnwhiteh | The Moto X 2nd gen is the best out there. |
| 00:28.40 | kd3 | eh, I'm easy. I'm still happy with my S4 |
| 00:28.55 | jnwhiteh | You're happy with TouchWiz? |
| 00:28.57 | kd3 | maybe the S6 will be amazing and I'll upgrade, but otherwise, meh |
| 00:28.59 | jnwhiteh | How is that possible. |
| 00:29.08 | Thunder_Child | Suitable for you anyway. |
| 00:29.12 | kd3 | I'm only in the launcher when I switch apps |
| 00:29.13 | jnwhiteh | I would probably buy the Galaxy Alpha if it wasn't TouchWiz. |
| 00:29.34 | jnwhiteh | I suppose if I can replace the launcher, and replace the messaging app, etc. |
| 00:29.45 | jnwhiteh | then I could avoid it most of the time |
| 00:29.59 | kd3 | hangouts works just fine for sms+gchat |
| 00:30.09 | jnwhiteh | but it being on the device at all means I have to wait for Touchwiz to update to get updates. |
| 00:31.43 | Ressy | jnwhiteh: I love my OnePlus. |
| 00:31.59 | jnwhiteh | My Nexus 5 screen shattered again today. |
| 00:32.07 | jnwhiteh | This is the source of my angst. |
| 00:32.18 | jnwhiteh | The larger the phone, the bigger the problem and higher likelihood of that happening. |
| 00:32.33 | jnwhiteh | I don't care if I have Gorilla Glass 4 or Sapphire, the bigger the phone the more likely it's going to be to shatter. |
| 00:32.42 | jnwhiteh | even with bumpers, protectors, etc. |
| 00:32.44 | Ressy | I have the hard backing case for the OnePlus.. It overlaps the front.. So if you drop your phone, and it hits the ground face down, the impact goes through the case. |
| 00:32.56 | jnwhiteh | Yeah I should probably consider the 1+1 |
| 00:33.05 | jnwhiteh | its a cheap enough investment, I guess. |
| 00:33.08 | Ressy | I can't even count the number of times I've dropped this phone.. |
| 00:33.09 | Ressy | lol |
| 00:33.14 | Ressy | or its fallen off something |
| 00:33.20 | jnwhiteh | My n4 was perfect(ish) |
| 00:33.27 | jnwhiteh | small bumper and it lived up to most |
| 00:33.35 | jnwhiteh | the buttons are what gave way, and the screen. |
| 00:33.37 | Thunder_Child | I have a note3 and have not even scratched it. |
| 00:33.45 | jnwhiteh | I've never had an issue with phone scratching |
| 00:33.54 | Thunder_Child | I mean it has no damage at all. |
| 00:33.55 | jnwhiteh | but maybe thats just my use-case |
| 00:33.56 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 00:34.03 | jnwhiteh | GG2 is optimised for scratch protection |
| 00:34.04 | Thunder_Child | But then I always go overboard with the case |
| 00:34.10 | jnwhiteh | and the version in Nexus 5 is more brittle as a result. |
| 00:34.19 | Thunder_Child | usually the mid to high of an otter case. |
| 00:34.29 | Ressy | This is the case I got for my oneplus: https://oneplus.net/oneplus-one-clear-case |
| 00:34.30 | kd3 | eh, the only reason my phone has a crack in it is because I was doing yardwork laying retaining wall bricks and put a little too much force through my legs/hips |
| 00:35.06 | Ressy | Its not flush to the screen.. Its like 1/2 mm over the screen.. enough to take an impact.. |
| 00:35.18 | jnwhiteh | Ressy: I had that today on my phone. |
| 00:35.23 | jnwhiteh | It didn't help =) |
| 00:35.56 | Ressy | You drop it on concrete or something? lol |
| 00:36.12 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 00:36.16 | jnwhiteh | a parking lot |
| 00:36.16 | Ressy | >.< |
| 00:36.35 | Stanzilla | I have a solution |
| 00:36.40 | Stanzilla | stop dropping your phone! :) |
| 00:36.51 | Ressy | lmao.. yeah. good luck with that. |
| 00:36.54 | jnwhiteh | I'd be less likely to drop it if it wasn't so big. |
| 00:36.59 | jnwhiteh | honestly that makes a difference. |
| 00:37.04 | Ressy | it does.. |
| 00:37.15 | Ressy | I went from a LG Optimus 2x, to the Oneplus.. a lot bigger. |
| 00:37.19 | Ressy | dropping it way more. |
| 00:37.21 | Gnarfoz | I'm amazed how someone dumb enough to destroy their phone like this can make the observation that there's "no suitable phone on the market" |
| 00:37.31 | Gnarfoz | should get one made for children or something |
| 00:38.43 | jnwhiteh | fuck you? |
| 00:38.45 | Gnarfoz | also, nobody's forcing you to stick with TouchWiz if you don't like it: advantage of being the biggest in # of sales: most likely to get custom stuff for it |
| 00:38.48 | jnwhiteh | like how am I supposed to respond to that? |
| 00:38.50 | jnwhiteh | what an asshole |
| 00:39.14 | jnwhiteh | I stand by what I said: there's no stock android phone with a smaller (n4 or less) for factors that is available. |
| 00:39.17 | jnwhiteh | and there's plan to have one |
| 00:39.38 | jnwhiteh | I don't know a single person with an android phone other than the Moto X 2nd Gen that is satisfied with all aspects of their phones, and even they complain about the size. |
| 00:40.28 | Thunder_Child | I never complained about my galaxy nexus when I was using it. |
| 00:40.40 | jnwhiteh | man I loved that phone |
| 00:41.17 | Thunder_Child | Which is why I am going to makle sure to go back to core android. But I like big phones so that is not an issue for me. |
| 00:41.34 | jnwhiteh | ah that's nice |
| 00:41.40 | jnwhiteh | I should just carry a purse or bag everywhere |
| 00:41.49 | jnwhiteh | that would change my hardware likes/dislikes. |
| 00:41.52 | jnwhiteh | I think |
| 00:42.16 | Industrial | JS is getting OO so.. UML's away! http://goo.gl/36yKuU |
| 00:42.39 | Ressy | I love everything about my oneplus. Its awesome. |
| 00:43.55 | Industrial | this is id-builder. it builds and watches my dev environment. so I can make DirectoryWatcherServer be a subclass of id-server.tcp.RPCServer so now id-project uses id-server and id-server uses id-project o_O |
| 00:44.27 | Industrial | id-project already uses id-project (to build itself with itself) |
| 00:44.39 | Industrial | s/id-project/id-builder/g |
| 00:44.52 | Industrial | hugs purl |
| 00:46.36 | Simca | why does a scripting language need OO anyway |
| 00:47.12 | Industrial | because it's now swiftly becoming the #1 programming language for webservers and is the only one for web clients |
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| 00:47.38 | Industrial | it's only syntax sugar on top of the already existing prototypal OO |
| 00:47.47 | Industrial | not much unlike what you can do with Lua metatables |
| 00:47.53 | Industrial | (only its more flexible) |
| 00:48.06 | Industrial | (the Lua one) |
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| 00:50.35 | Industrial | dude I'm now doing cloud development in the cloud with Cloud9 IDE (full-stack javascript cloud app), building a build system that uses itself to build itself. |
| 00:52.06 | Stanzilla | jnwhiteh: have you looked at the compact sony xperia series? |
| 00:52.25 | jnwhiteh | Stanzilla: I haven't seen much talking about the Sony phones. Do you have positive recommendations? |
| 00:52.32 | Industrial | that it can run tests is tested by a cloud service (in js probably) |
| 00:53.03 | Stanzilla | jnwhiteh: heard lots of good stuff about them, I think Parnic bought one recently, we had a talk about smaller phones before he did |
| 00:53.05 | Industrial | I'm too meta for school since I discovered RDF. |
| 00:53.56 | Industrial | to the batcave! |
| 00:56.07 | Semlar | why do you have a batcave |
| 00:56.21 | Thunder_Child | Because he has bats. |
| 00:56.23 | Stanzilla | also looks like Gnarfoz is drunk again :D |
| 00:56.25 | jnwhiteh | Parnic: ping =) |
| 00:57.20 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: I wish |
| 00:59.14 | kd3 | oh, wow. that's an interesting failure mode. raspberry pi 2s really don't like xenon flashes... http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=99042 |
| 01:02.55 | fewyn | 90 more lunkers to go |
| 01:10.32 | tz | shame I don't have a xenon flash to test :( |
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| 01:28.57 | HerroWorlds | can anyone link that app wowinterface was making for adodns? |
| 01:29.12 | kd3 | ? |
| 01:29.27 | kd3 | the API you mean? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51835 |
| 01:29.46 | HerroWorlds | http://minion.mmoui.com/ |
| 01:30.04 | HerroWorlds | is what i ment |
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| 01:50.33 | mfernandez | Hi, I'm having a problem writing an addon. Is this the right channel to ask about it? |
| 01:51.01 | kd3 | sure. don't paste code in here, but put it on pastebin (or a similar site) and link to it |
| 01:51.06 | kd3 | what's up? |
| 01:54.07 | mfernandez | fine.. well.. basicaly I have a hud interface and I'm using a Frame with some Textures inside but sometimes I need to change what Texture will be render on top (layer depth) and I'm having difficult to find how to do this in the API doc. Someone already had this kind of problem and knows the right way to do this? |
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| 02:02.20 | Simca | mfernandez: framelevel |
| 02:02.44 | foxlit | is never the right answer. |
| 02:03.01 | Simca | it's usually just done automatically though - a texture created with its parent set to the thing below it will set its own framelevel correctly |
| 02:03.33 | Simca | if you set parenting up so that the top texture is a child of the bottom texture which is a child of the frame, you should never have an issue |
| 02:03.40 | foxlit | you're very confused, Simca. |
| 02:03.47 | Simca | probably |
| 02:04.04 | Parnic | jnwhiteh: pong |
| 02:04.06 | mfernandez | Simca, I'll try, but I'm not sure if I can change the parent layer.. |
| 02:04.11 | Simca | it works that way in xml anyway |
| 02:05.45 | znf | Simca, have you noticed that tier tokens have a bonusID of 0? |
| 02:06.04 | Simca | yeah |
| 02:06.20 | Simca | they are quest items, right? |
| 02:06.28 | znf | no |
| 02:06.32 | Simca | ah |
| 02:06.46 | Simca | they've tried about 4 different tier token systems in 6.0 |
| 02:06.48 | znf | only the essence is quest items |
| 02:06.52 | Simca | and they're using a new one in 6.1 lol |
| 02:07.03 | Simca | (right-click token to create armor piece) |
| 02:07.08 | znf | the actual token is create-item |
| 02:07.16 | Simca | ah okay |
| 02:07.18 | znf | uhm? that's how it is... |
| 02:07.26 | Simca | could just be a bug fix |
| 02:07.36 | znf | but, what I meant, it has numBonus:1 and bonusID:0 |
| 02:07.41 | znf | which is... wth? |
| 02:07.52 | Simca | technically valid i guess but weird, yeah |
| 02:08.00 | znf | yeah, I didn't expect that :D |
| 02:10.00 | znf | but honestly |
| 02:10.13 | znf | it's weird as fuck |
| 02:10.25 | znf | take for example Conqueror Chest |
| 02:10.31 | znf | Chest of the Iron Conqueror |
| 02:10.34 | znf | there's 4 items in the database |
| 02:10.37 | Simca | mfernandez: these are good reads (even if old) - http://wow.gamepedia.com/How_the_user_interface_is_rendered and http://wow.gamepedia.com/FrameLevel#What_is_the_difference_between_frameLevel_and_frameStrata.3F |
| 02:11.16 | znf | 119305 (with bonus id 0, bonus id 569 and bonus id 570, which are normal/hc/mythic) |
| 02:11.31 | znf | then there's 120227, 120212, 120242 |
| 02:11.40 | znf | hc/normal/mythic |
| 02:11.50 | Simca | like I said they tried multiple systems, I'm not sure which ended up getting used |
| 02:11.51 | znf | they ended up using the separate IDs |
| 02:11.58 | Simca | ah ok |
| 02:12.10 | znf | and all of them have numbonus:1 and bonusID:0 |
| 02:12.26 | Simca | that's actually useful info thanks (I doubt i'll get a token anytime soon) |
| 02:13.33 | Simca | looks like the encounter journal points to 119305 lol |
| 02:16.35 | Simca | foxlit: out of curiosity, what did I say that was so wrong? (wiki seems to confirm that supplying a parent at time of frame creation results in new frame at parent:GetFrameLevel() + 1 automatically) |
| 02:19.26 | Simca | it actually even suggests "a hierarchical set of parent frames" |
| 02:20.04 | znf | wth is wrong with the guild news page |
| 02:20.13 | znf | ours skips from "4 days ago" to "9 hours ago" |
| 02:20.21 | znf | also, fuck the loot spam from old raids >_< |
| 02:21.26 | foxlit | textures are not frames. |
| 02:21.31 | foxlit | textures don't have frame levels. |
| 02:21.36 | foxlit | messing with frame levels is usually a bad idea. |
| 02:21.49 | foxlit | textures can't be parented to other textures. |
| 02:23.14 | znf | Simca, hmmm, wowdb says that http://www.wowdb.com/items/119305-chest-of-the-iron-conqueror was looted 2099 times |
| 02:23.17 | znf | I'm wondering |
| 02:23.29 | znf | I'll have to check tomorow in raid again |
| 02:23.48 | foxlit | (and draw layers is what you should typically point to for texture-texture overlaps) |
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| 02:24.14 | Simca | ah okay |
| 02:25.06 | Simca | i rarely do actual UI stuff so I just assumed textures inherited from frame |
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| 02:28.22 | Simca | mfernandez: re - the above conversation: what you want then is http://wow.gamepedia.com/FrameStrata |
| 02:38.02 | mfernandez | Simca, I'm already using it... but I need more layers. I'm trying to work with Texture sublevels. I'm finishing the logic to prioritize the layers and I say if it worked ;) |
| 02:49.21 | pompy | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=259 lol |
| 03:03.30 | kd3 | oh, huh. they changed the heirlooms in the latest build. there's no pvp resilience any more |
| 03:09.57 | kd3 | but now there's no rhyme or reason why some items are sold for crusader's seals and some aren't... |
| 03:10.05 | kd3 | http://wow.gamepedia.com/Template:Vendor_heirlooms |
| 03:12.15 | Stanzilla | do the pvp heirlooms even look different? |
| 03:13.03 | kd3 | oh, hah, the vendors aren't faction-affiliated any more either |
| 03:14.07 | kd3 | yes, they still have their old models, what was the pvp cloth shoulders and the pve cloth shoulders are still different |
| 03:14.12 | kd3 | one has haste, the other has crit |
| 03:14.42 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 03:14.48 | Stanzilla | dont want to do those dailies again..pleeease |
| 03:16.24 | kd3 | you don't have to. if you've got gold to spare, you don't ever have to see the argent tournament again |
| 03:16.52 | Stanzilla | that's good |
| 03:17.33 | Stanzilla | that reminds me that I need to check if they fixed the wrong Argent Warhorse mount in the mount journal in 6.1 |
| 03:21.24 | Stanzilla | looks like they did, yay |
| 03:24.09 | Ressy | What was wrong with the warhorse mount? |
| 03:35.16 | Stanzilla | there were two in the journal |
| 03:35.23 | Stanzilla | one unobtainable |
| 03:35.57 | Stanzilla | this one http://i.imgur.com/Lq7ZGVd.png |
| 03:36.48 | Ressy | Its still in the database.. It just doesn't show up. lol |
| 03:37.20 | Stanzilla | great fix then |
| 03:37.31 | Ressy | Theres 3 mounts like that. |
| 03:37.50 | Ressy | "Swift Brown Steed" "Argent Warhorse" "Furious Ashhide Mushan" |
| 03:47.57 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 03:51.30 | mfernandez | Simca, SetDrawLayer() worked for me setting subLevel. Thank you for your help |
| 03:51.53 | Simca | (attempted help anyway) |
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| 04:12.23 | pompy | they better fix http://www.wowhead.com/quest=36700 in 6.1!! |
| 04:12.37 | pompy | how could that not have been hotfixed by now though? |
| 04:13.03 | kd3 | pompy: https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/563879687164678144 |
| 04:14.08 | pompy | well i'd hope they fix the achievement then to exclude that quest |
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| 06:21.26 | Trela | YESSSSSSSSSS. BATTLE BOTS IS BACK!~ |
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| 06:56.47 | Neffi | I doubt it |
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| 07:37.58 | pompy | http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/02/07/brian-william-nbc-news-anchor-step-aside/23045773/ |
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| 07:50.53 | Thordurin | hugs Cairenn |
| 07:51.13 | Cairenn | hugs Thordurin |
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| 08:34.35 | Simca | heh, Maldivia: http://i.imgur.com/LEzJEcQ.png 'OGL41' entry may indicate they're finally considering moving up from OpenGL 1.5 |
| 08:35.12 | Neffi | WoW it still only using OGL 1.5? |
| 08:35.38 | Neffi | (or is this something else?) |
| 08:36.35 | Simca | yeah WoW is still using OpenGL 1.5 |
| 09:20.37 | zenzelezz | pompy: looks like another launch today, granted weather holds |
| 09:21.57 | jleclanche | Simca: i thought they would eventually drop their opengl backend |
| 09:22.07 | jleclanche | Simca: it's not like anyone uses it. osx uses gll, wine uses d3d |
| 09:23.24 | zenzelezz | GLL? |
| 09:23.37 | jleclanche | some souped up opengl |
| 09:26.16 | Simca | they have to maintain their opengl-based shaders anyway since GLL uses them |
| 09:28.53 | jleclanche | Simca: i figure they might be moving gll back to a proper opengl backend? |
| 09:29.00 | jleclanche | maybe someone sane was hired |
| 09:29.22 | Simca | and I was wrong, wow uses openGL 2.1 atm actually |
| 09:29.38 | Simca | guess they never updated the directory names since all the shaders use ogl15 naming |
| 09:29.46 | Simca | (I shouldn't be surprised) |
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| 13:10.43 | jleclanche | http://sourceforge.net/p/lxde/mailman/message/33373317/ :) |
| 13:10.51 | jleclanche | mitch0: ^ |
| 13:15.51 | zenzelezz | neat |
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| 14:59.01 | Delfinus | Hey guys, i'm playing wow 1.12.1 on a private server and i'm wondering if there is working BottomScanner (or BottomFeeder) addon for 1.12.1. Can anyone help me? |
| 14:59.22 | nevcairiel | We do not support private servers here, you are on your own |
| 15:35.18 | Ressy | Anyone have Mythic or Heroic heirlooms from hellscream? And can take a screenshot of it in the heirloom panel on PTR? >.< |
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| 15:55.48 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 15:56.02 | nevcairiel | why would they be special? |
| 15:56.15 | Fisker | I think they aren't displayed if you don't have them |
| 15:56.51 | nevcairiel | no, none of hellscreams items are |
| 15:56.59 | nevcairiel | but neither are the normal-mode versions |
| 15:57.05 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 15:57.36 | Ressy | yeah.. |
| 15:57.38 | Ressy | problem is.. |
| 15:57.47 | Fisker | Can you get them anymore? |
| 15:57.49 | Ressy | unless you have one, they can't even pull them from the servers. |
| 15:57.50 | Ressy | no. |
| 15:57.52 | Ressy | retired. |
| 15:57.54 | nevcairiel | Fisker: no |
| 15:58.02 | nevcairiel | thats why they dont show, since they are unobtainable |
| 15:58.46 | Ressy | But, I should at least be able to pull item data from the servers about them. |
| 15:58.50 | Ressy | I can't seem to do that. |
| 15:59.00 | nevcairiel | http://i.imgur.com/pO1VJyc.jpg |
| 15:59.53 | nevcairiel | (also, with HBAO+ its seriously dark inside buildings now, i like) |
| 16:00.09 | Ressy | ty |
| 16:02.02 | nevcairiel | not sure what that screenshot really gives you though :d |
| 16:02.28 | Fisker | hax nevcairiel |
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| 16:09.04 | Ressy | Is it just me, or all the stats for Normal vs Heroic vs Mythic the same for the same item? |
| 16:09.14 | nevcairiel | at max level t hey are |
| 16:09.20 | nevcairiel | at 90 they start out at different levels |
| 16:09.27 | nevcairiel | just scale up differently |
| 16:09.30 | Ressy | ahh. k |
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| 16:16.39 | Ressy | Thanks nevcairiel.. Trying to figure out what to do now.. >.< |
| 16:41.09 | karl_w_w | http://www.odditycentral.com/foods/edible-architecture-the-creative-food-towers-that-destroyed-salad-bars-in-china.html |
| 16:41.51 | karl_w_w | those are people who don't know the value of time |
| 16:49.37 | nevcairiel | obviously food holds a higher value than time for those people |
| 16:53.15 | Fisker | eat lunch Ressy |
| 16:53.30 | Ressy | Just had breakfast |
| 17:10.52 | karl_w_w | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHoOrFdgYR8 shoot him again if he's not dead yet! |
| 17:11.40 | kd3 | well, at least 6.1 heirloom availability is consistently inconsistent... http://wow.gamepedia.com/Template:Vendor_heirlooms?oldid=3585580 |
| 17:14.19 | Ressy | Essentially, if its on a guild vendor, its not available at the darkmoon faire or icecrown. |
| 17:14.39 | kd3 | nah. there's no distinction between pvp and non-pvp items any more (resilience is gone) |
| 17:15.19 | kd3 | there were pvp shoulders/weapons, and those were never available on alt vendors. they're not pvp-focused any more, but they're still not available |
| 17:16.14 | kd3 | http://wow.gamepedia.com/Template:Guild_vendor_heirlooms |
| 17:16.34 | Ressy | I get that. |
| 17:16.40 | Ressy | Theres a vendor in IF/OR which has all. |
| 17:16.45 | Ressy | Theres the guild vendors which has some. |
| 17:17.08 | Ressy | Anything on guild vendor, won't be on darkmoon faire or icecrown. |
| 17:17.25 | kd3 | unless something changed since I checked last night, what's listed in 'vendor heirlooms' is all that the IF/UC vendors has for sale. no guild looms are on the 'heirloom vendors' |
| 17:17.26 | nevcairiel | kd3: resilience is gone? http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=44100/pristine-lightforge-spaulders |
| 17:17.37 | kd3 | wowhead hasn't updated |
| 17:17.49 | nevcairiel | same values on the wowpedia tooltip |
| 17:17.50 | kd3 | also, that's the old version |
| 17:18.01 | Ressy | ok.. not all. most then. |
| 17:18.10 | kd3 | http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=122373/pristine-lightforge-spaulders |
| 17:18.33 | nevcairiel | I was always slightly annoyed that there was no int plate for leveling using a holy paladin in dungeons, only the silly pvp plate |
| 17:18.42 | Ressy | Got everything sorted out in Collectinator. |
| 17:18.52 | nevcairiel | fix http://wow.gamepedia.com/Pristine_Lightforge_Spaulders then? :P |
| 17:18.55 | kd3 | I will |
| 17:19.24 | kd3 | needed to hack our templates to display all 3 versions, like on the new necks: http://wow.gamepedia.com/Eternal_Amulet_of_the_Redeemed |
| 17:20.10 | nevcairiel | stuff i upgrade dto 85 before automatically gets upgraded to 90 with the patch, right? |
| 17:20.17 | Ressy | I like how they boosted any of the 80/85 heirlooms to 90 on login |
| 17:20.22 | kd3 | hell, even unupgraded level 80 stuff is level 90 |
| 17:20.27 | nevcairiel | oh? neat |
| 17:20.35 | nevcairiel | might be worth buying a few of the guild things now then :p |
| 17:20.53 | Ressy | Definitely cheaper to buy pre-patch |
| 17:20.57 | nevcairiel | hm or not, those have always been 85 |
| 17:21.14 | nevcairiel | or do they sell the 60 variant then |
| 17:21.23 | Ressy | PTR will sell 60 variant |
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| 17:21.41 | Ressy | err, its showing vendors will sell lvl 60 variant |
| 17:21.44 | kd3 | anything sold from 6.1 on is the level 60 version |
| 17:22.42 | nevcairiel | so buying some 80 stuff now might actually save me gold |
| 17:23.45 | Stanzilla | can you even buy for gold in 6.0? |
| 17:23.56 | nevcairiel | some |
| 17:23.58 | kd3 | the guild looms |
| 17:23.58 | nevcairiel | guild stuff etc |
| 17:24.55 | Stanzilla | man I hate spending gold :< |
| 17:25.14 | nevcairiel | on second thought, how much is the upgrade item again? |
| 17:25.44 | kd3 | http://wow.gamepedia.com/Ancient_Heirloom_Armor_Casing |
| 17:26.00 | nevcairiel | hm ok still some gold saved, but barely |
| 17:26.06 | Ressy | looks like the guild vendor items are lvl 60, 500g on 6.1 |
| 17:26.20 | Ressy | live is 85, 1500g |
| 17:26.24 | nevcairiel | then http://wow.gamepedia.com/Template:Guild_vendor_heirlooms lies |
| 17:26.26 | nevcairiel | it claims 625! |
| 17:26.37 | Stanzilla | what are the lvl 85 ones translated into? |
| 17:26.40 | kd3 | eh, lemme go check. prices changed a build or two back |
| 17:26.42 | nevcairiel | 90 |
| 17:26.44 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 17:26.48 | kd3 | level 80 and 85 heirlooms are 90 (upgrade level 1/2) |
| 17:26.50 | nevcairiel | 500+1000 = 1500 |
| 17:26.53 | nevcairiel | so same thing |
| 17:27.02 | Ressy | if this is the case.. |
| 17:27.06 | nevcairiel | might be worth buying the capes |
| 17:27.09 | nevcairiel | those are only 1200 on live |
| 17:27.16 | nevcairiel | but i have all 4 of those already |
| 17:27.17 | Ressy | it'd be cheaper to buy the 60s, and doing the straight upgrade to 100 for 2000g |
| 17:27.54 | Ressy | Live 1500g (to 90) + 2000g (to 100) |
| 17:28.07 | Ressy | 6.1 500g (to 0) + 2000g (to 100) |
| 17:28.09 | nevcairiel | oh i never considered that, the 100 upgrade works from 60 immediately? |
| 17:28.14 | Ressy | might? Dunno |
| 17:28.16 | Ressy | can test |
| 17:28.17 | Ressy | heh |
| 17:28.25 | Ressy | wiill try now |
| 17:28.26 | nevcairiel | i guess so could i |
| 17:29.28 | kd3 | nope. they changed the use: lines on the upgrades. "Only works on heirlooms that scale to level 90." |
| 17:29.42 | Ressy | mkay. |
| 17:29.54 | Ressy | so no difference in cost for most guild ones |
| 17:35.02 | Ressy | The pants tho.. |
| 17:35.06 | Ressy | They're all 500g.. |
| 17:35.23 | Ressy | so you save 250g/item if you get them in 6.1 |
| 17:36.53 | kd3 | are you in a guild with 'working as a team' on the ptr? |
| 17:37.43 | Ressy | no |
| 17:38.35 | Ressy | oh.. yeah |
| 17:38.40 | Ressy | working better as a team. |
| 17:38.44 | kd3 | ya |
| 17:38.47 | Ressy | legs on ptr are 500g |
| 17:41.34 | zenzelezz | sounds cheaper to crawl then |
| 17:41.50 | Ressy | for legs: |
| 17:41.58 | Ressy | Live: 1750g (boosted to 90), +2000g (to 100) = 3750g |
| 17:41.58 | Ressy | PTR: 500g (60) + 1000g (to 90) + 2000g (to 100) = 3500g |
| 17:44.22 | Ressy | I'm hopeful that with Collections.. |
| 17:44.38 | Ressy | With this change for Heirlooms, they can easily add the Tabards now. |
| 17:47.43 | Kraps | https://www.reddit.com/r/warcraftdadjokes |
| 17:52.46 | Ressy | I wish I could tweet from PTR. :( |
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| 18:36.02 | Stanzilla | @newsycombinator A Xenon flash will cause the Raspberry Pi 2 to freeze http://t.co/ZhW9WWC7Nn |
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| 18:45.26 | Fisker | old Stanzilla |
| 18:45.27 | Fisker | :3 |
| 18:51.09 | karl_w_w | new Fisker |
| 18:52.47 | Semlar | flashes stanzilla |
| 19:19.35 | Neffi | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
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| 20:23.23 | zenzelezz | I get so amused by the idiots who think they know how World of Tanks mechanics work. "mdf pass 10 sec you see my tank wtf fk bot sheter" (this because I killed him after he was no longer spotted... because for three shots he didn't move from the same spot) |
| 20:23.40 | zenzelezz | never seen "cheater" spelled that way |
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| 20:38.40 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.13 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 20:41.41 | foxlit | (and it's probably true) |
| 20:44.21 | znf | 2147593 is close to what kind of integer limit? |
| 20:44.45 | Neffi | um, a very small limit? |
| 20:46.15 | nevcairiel | its factor 1000 from int_max :p |
| 20:46.18 | Neffi | the gold limit used to be 214,748 because it was counted in copper, not gold, so the actual limit was 2147483647 |
| 20:46.41 | Neffi | it's still counted it copper but I guess they switched to a bigger int type |
| 20:46.55 | znf | when running on Windows 8.1 (64bit), but with the 32bit client, when the OS reaches that uptime (in seconds) all "aura counters" stop working |
| 20:47.04 | nevcairiel | it probably counts in ms |
| 20:47.05 | znf | that includes the swirly thingie on action bars |
| 20:47.10 | Neffi | what nevcairiel just said |
| 20:47.11 | Neffi | beat me to it! |
| 20:47.17 | znf | mkay, 64bit now, stuff works |
| 20:47.35 | znf | but now in raid Shadowed UnitFrames broke their range finder |
| 20:47.35 | znf | great |
| 20:47.45 | Neffi | afaik you're not supposed to use the uptime ticker to keep track of time! |
| 20:47.53 | Shadowed | you're not |
| 20:47.57 | Neffi | it's not guaranteed to not be an arbitrary value, or to not roll over |
| 20:48.06 | nevcairiel | actually you can, but you should use the 64-bit tick timer |
| 20:51.24 | znf | but, fun bug |
| 20:55.20 | [TOM_RUS] | that bug has been in game for years |
| 20:55.33 | znf | only found it a month ago or something like that |
| 20:55.40 | znf | happened to be running the 32bit client for some reasons |
| 20:56.01 | znf | a few days ago I switched back to 32bit to see if I can reproduce it |
| 20:56.30 | [TOM_RUS] | happens all the time for me when system reaches 24 days uptime |
| 20:56.40 | [TOM_RUS] | action bar cooldowns - gone |
| 20:56.57 | nevcairiel | just use the 64-bit client |
| 20:57.35 | znf | I am, it's just weird |
| 20:59.07 | nevcairiel | its not weird, its a common problem =p |
| 20:59.41 | zenzelezz | zomg Win95 lulz (what was that, 59 days? 54?) |
| 21:00.06 | zenzelezz | 49.7, of course... |
| 21:14.34 | karl_w_w | I'm sure Fisker's heard this one before http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8Bc7eRTdWY |
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| 22:59.04 | zenzelezz | not sure if it's my computers somehow, but SpaceX's streams always stutter and hang so bad... thankfully NASA provides their own, stable one |
| 22:59.09 | Seerah | is there any reason why a pairs() loop would stop/exit out after the first key/value pair? |
| 23:00.15 | Semlar | if there's only one entry |
| 23:00.24 | Seerah | :/ |
| 23:00.27 | Semlar | >_> |
| 23:01.18 | zenzelezz | paste the code? |
| 23:01.23 | Seerah | There's not. It traverses all the way through except when I want it (to add lines to the tooltip in an OnEnter |
| 23:02.05 | Semlar | how do you know it's not iterating over everything |
| 23:02.20 | Seerah | it's a little messy still and I keep changing things to debug, but http://pastebin.com/NtpUMqTc |
| 23:02.29 | kd3 | speaking of, the spacex launch is happening now [ http://spacex.com/webcast or http://www.nasa.gov/nasatv ] |
| 23:02.32 | Seerah | because it's not printing anything after one iteration with a debug statement |
| 23:04.03 | zenzelezz | which of the two pairs() is it? |
| 23:04.09 | zenzelezz | 34 or 41 |
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| 23:04.33 | Seerah | sorry, 41 |
| 23:04.37 | Seerah | figured it out. |
| 23:04.45 | zenzelezz | kd3: the only thing I hate about NASA's stream is how the dude always seems to love to talk over the radio chatter |
| 23:04.48 | Semlar | was there only one entry |
| 23:04.55 | Seerah | had to leave out the buildings that don't do work orders. it was the value of false that stopped it |
| 23:05.18 | Semlar | what |
| 23:05.39 | Seerah | yep. switching line 19 to line 20 is what made it work |
| 23:05.47 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure you can store false as a value in a table |
| 23:05.51 | Seerah | yeah |
| 23:06.13 | Seerah | it printed fine to chat when iterating manually |
| 23:06.25 | Seerah | line 34 had no issues |
| 23:06.33 | kd3 | hm, the nasa stream is 30s ahead of the spacex one |
| 23:06.37 | Seerah | but as soon as I tried to add lines to the tooltip with it, it buggered out |
| 23:07.26 | Seerah | actually, I take that back. It quit working even with out the :AddLine call - it would fail with just a print statement. but it was in the GR.OnTooltipShow function nonetheless |
| 23:07.46 | Seerah | I have no idea. Fought with it for an hour and it's something stupid that shouldn't even have any effect |
| 23:07.58 | zenzelezz | kd3: in my experience, SpaceX's own stream tends to be... of questionable quality |
| 23:09.17 | Gnarfoz | Livestream.com junk :D |
| 23:09.17 | kd3 | bah, an abort |
| 23:10.13 | zenzelezz | will have to see again tomorrow I guess |
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| 23:45.25 | fewyn | took me about 2 hours to farm 5 lunkers |
| 23:45.28 | fewyn | this is going to take awhile |
| 23:45.44 | fewyn | i got 2 fire ammonite ones in under 10 minutes now tho |
