| 00:09.38 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: Although I rather like the Note4 as compared to my Note3, I think I will go with a nexus device next time. I am not a fan of the hard coded stuff samsung puts in. |
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| 00:17.00 | makoshark1975 | im guessing no one is around |
| 00:20.04 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 00:20.07 | Mr_Rabies | ok |
| 00:20.25 | Simca | hey he waited a full minute and 13 seconds, clearly a reasonable assumption to make |
| 00:22.43 | pompy | Simca: actually 2min30sec! |
| 00:23.02 | Simca | I meant between the time he joined and the time he made the remark |
| 00:23.22 | pompy | indeed. |
| 00:41.10 | fewyn | this is odd |
| 00:41.16 | fewyn | i've locked up like 3 times |
| 00:41.22 | fewyn | while posting with tsm |
| 00:45.27 | Thunder_Child | sounds like an std. |
| 00:46.41 | fewyn | worked this time |
| 00:46.44 | fewyn | that was odd tho |
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| 01:20.56 | PREFIX| | Would it be possible to somehow make a panel/weakaura anchor to targeted mobs nameplate without too much hassle? |
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| 02:06.01 | Semlar | no |
| 02:06.29 | Semlar | there is only too much hassle when it comes to nameplates |
| 02:06.58 | fewyn | phew at least my monitors fit on my new desk |
| 02:07.09 | fewyn | hopefully this is a temporary desk because it sucks balls |
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| 02:31.15 | Primer | I'm expecting my third 27" monitor soon. This will complement my setup so that all my monitors are the same make/model |
| 02:31.23 | Primer | and my desk should be just big enough |
| 02:31.51 | fewyn | i have 3 23" monitors |
| 02:32.16 | Primer | Here's what my setup looks like right now: http://www.ceregatti.org/monitors.jpg |
| 02:32.20 | fewyn | and my video card locks up |
| 02:32.25 | fewyn | so i'm not in a good mood |
| 02:32.37 | fewyn | i can't afford to replace it now |
| 02:32.40 | Primer | the problem is that the middle monitor is billed as 27", but it's really 25.5", and its native resolution is 1920x1200 |
| 02:33.09 | fewyn | so i hope it was just a random hiccup |
| 02:33.11 | fewyn | and it not failing |
| 02:33.21 | fewyn | the card is only a bit over a year old |
| 02:34.09 | Primer | I have an nvidia 770 and I'm wondering if it can handle some games at 1920x3240 |
| 02:34.35 | Primer | like, if/when Star Citizen comes out |
| 02:34.49 | fewyn | FPS module is supposed to drop in march/april |
| 02:35.02 | fewyn | and limited PU beta by end of year |
| 02:35.10 | fewyn | like 5 systems or something like that |
| 02:35.16 | Primer | I'm not interested in the game until it's complete |
| 02:35.27 | fewyn | i'm waiting for the PU |
| 02:35.35 | fewyn | i've popped in to check dogfighting |
| 02:35.41 | fewyn | i want to check racing out in the nearish future too |
| 02:37.04 | Primer | so...I've found that renicing wow to -19 makes a substantial difference |
| 02:37.07 | Primer | but still not enough |
| 02:39.27 | Thunder_Child | Anyone know if it is possible that a linux OS is too old to ID a chip, but still report information? |
| 02:40.00 | Primer | lspci can always read the numbers |
| 02:40.25 | Primer | it's a matter of having a table that maps the numbers to names |
| 02:40.33 | Primer | but, but chip, do you mean CPU? |
| 02:40.39 | Thunder_Child | is that what boxinfo/cpuinfo pull from? |
| 02:40.55 | Primer | well, everything is ultimately a number |
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| 02:41.12 | Primer | it's bit at a known address |
| 02:41.15 | Primer | bits, even |
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| 03:25.19 | kd3 | oh wow, the human male model's walk animation on the ptr is broken. half the time they just coast through the ground |
| 03:26.26 | Dagmar | They're being extra smoove. |
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| 03:32.53 | Dagmar | People will jsut have to wait it out like everyone with a male dwarf did |
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| 03:58.23 | Simca | kd3: if curious, http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1696943-Patch-6-1-PTR-Build-19533?p=31955572&viewfull=1#post31955572 |
| 04:00.01 | kd3 | hm |
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| 04:16.18 | kd3 | whee, up to 16 music rolls |
| 04:16.47 | fewyn | i don't play with the sound on |
| 04:16.59 | Simca | kd3: how are they rewarded? |
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| 04:17.05 | kd3 | http://wow.gamepedia.com/Garrison_Jukebox#Other_rolls |
| 04:17.05 | Iriel | fewyn: Gasp! |
| 04:17.16 | fewyn | it's a bad habit from my EQ days Iriel |
| 04:17.37 | Kowh | I usually turn the music off in any xpac within a few weeks |
| 04:17.50 | Kowh | Repetitive music is repetitive |
| 04:17.54 | fewyn | ^ |
| 04:18.07 | Iriel | Wow has a decent balance of music and not for me |
| 04:18.13 | Iriel | And thereâs SO MUCH of the stuff |
| 04:18.25 | Iriel | Mind you, I dont play 7x24 |
| 04:18.38 | Simca | Faerie Dragon music roll is awesome, kd3 |
| 04:18.45 | fewyn | https://www.wowthing.org/u/fewyn/ |
| 04:18.46 | kd3 | oh Iriel , thank you, by the way. I really appreciate it |
| 04:18.50 | kd3 | simca, yup |
| 04:18.52 | Simca | people have wanted that event to have a purpose forever, i'm surprised they remembered it |
| 04:19.28 | kd3 | I want the crystalsong music. should poke muffinus |
| 04:19.30 | Iriel | kd3: 8-) Youâre welcome. |
| 04:19.34 | fewyn | wowthing is pretty awesome btw |
| 04:19.46 | fewyn | it's like altoholic except less resource intensive |
| 04:20.42 | Simca | what is that, 3 full accounts on realm 3? |
| 04:20.57 | fewyn | yeah |
| 04:21.03 | fewyn | i was triple-boxing |
| 04:21.06 | fewyn | with RAF |
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| 05:42.15 | Neffi | http://youtu.be/gOX8YbhVs-g |
| 05:42.21 | Neffi | this video has everything |
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| 06:16.05 | Neffi | http://imgur.com/gallery/yzSRi |
| 06:20.26 | Mr_Rabies | they did a pretty good job at masking them, i had no clue until i saw someone do that exact thing a while back |
| 06:28.19 | Simca | my personal crusade: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2029914278?page=1#5 |
| 06:37.18 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 06:37.56 | Mr_Rabies | they should be grey |
| 06:43.36 | Trela | Simca: ...They are grey? Mine is. |
| 06:44.13 | Simca | not librams. Librams |
| 06:44.43 | Trela | Yes, Librams. |
| 06:45.02 | Simca | http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=qu=2;na=Libram |
| 06:46.06 | Trela | I am not wrong. http://www.wowhead.com/item=28065/libram-of-wracking |
| 06:48.29 | Simca | yeah you're referring to librams, the category of items for Paladins that used to go in the ranged slot. I am referring to Librams, the quest items for the Shen'dralar in Dire Maul. |
| 06:48.48 | Simca | it is an unfortunate coincidence that the two are entirely different things\ |
| 06:48.57 | Simca | despite having the same name |
| 06:51.55 | Trela | <3 |
| 06:52.02 | Trela | Still a Libram. |
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| 09:48.35 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: happy birthday! |
| 09:48.36 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: happy birthday! |
| 09:48.45 | Gnarfoz | so happy, my irc client is sending double messages |
| 09:51.57 | karl_w_w | use a better client |
| 09:58.22 | Gnarfoz | tell that to whoever makes quassel-webserver |
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| 10:16.41 | AcidWeb | Last time i checked quassel-webserver was barely working alpha version. |
| 10:18.06 | nebula169 | it works ok now |
| 10:22.21 | Gnarfoz | maybe check again! |
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| 11:38.27 | karl_w_w | I did it guys, I found the least balanced article on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy |
| 11:52.52 | rid_ | (: |
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| 13:14.01 | Simca | karl_w_w: looks accurate to me |
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| 13:33.14 | Fisker | hugtackles into Lopeppeppy |
| 13:34.39 | karl_w_w | Simca, that article is more biased than the one on hitler |
| 13:36.16 | Simca | seems pretty accurate |
| 13:59.43 | karl_w_w | where did this thisalee crow come from? |
| 14:00.28 | karl_w_w | hotfix |
| 14:03.05 | Fisker | yes |
| 14:04.44 | nevcairiel | she was supposed to be rewarded for the primal fury quest, but apparently bugged for some |
| 14:04.56 | nevcairiel | I got her when i finished the quest last week though.. |
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| 14:18.36 | karl_w_w | will i get 14 abrogator stones this week? |
| 14:18.41 | karl_w_w | I should right |
| 14:18.54 | karl_w_w | I'm blaming nevcairiel if I don't |
| 14:19.01 | nevcairiel | imperator alone drops 6, that leaves 8 from 6 bosses ... there is a chance that you don't |
| 14:19.11 | nebula169 | if you get no clusters :( |
| 14:19.19 | nevcairiel | 2 double drops would be enough |
| 14:20.10 | karl_w_w | I have had a cluster off of um |
| 14:20.15 | nevcairiel | i would say there is a good chance to do it |
| 14:20.26 | karl_w_w | the butcher |
| 14:20.38 | karl_w_w | every single week I have done him he's given me a cluster |
| 14:28.31 | Lopeppeppy | Hola. |
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| 14:47.37 | Simca | I never got a single cluster before last week |
| 14:47.48 | Simca | I thought that clusters were hotfixed in last week until I asked around |
| 14:48.12 | Simca | I was like 'wut, how could I possibly have done this raid every week and not gotten a single one before now?' |
| 14:58.18 | Gnarfoz | you neglected your prayers to RNGsus |
| 15:16.49 | Dagmar | "RNGsus"? Oh that's _good_... |
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| 15:34.01 | karl_w_w | cluster off the first boss |
| 15:34.04 | karl_w_w | ez gaem |
| 15:34.35 | nevcairiel | and not a single drop of any others, still lost the game |
| 15:38.27 | karl_w_w | and a double off the butcher |
| 15:38.30 | karl_w_w | i am so pro |
| 15:46.52 | karl_w_w | and a double off brackenspore |
| 15:47.02 | karl_w_w | 9 off 3 bosses |
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| 15:48.11 | karl_w_w | in other news, I literally never remember to unleash life while shammy healing |
| 15:49.05 | karl_w_w | probably the easiest way to remember would be to use it for riptide on tanks |
| 15:49.26 | karl_w_w | but I often forget even to keep riptide up on tanks so I doubt I should risk trying to add a step to that |
| 15:50.12 | karl_w_w | oh unleash is pretty expensive anyway |
| 15:50.35 | Ayrshire | Heh, I never remember either. |
| 15:50.40 | karl_w_w | it's definitely not mana effecient |
| 15:50.57 | karl_w_w | and it's pretty useless as an emergency measure given it incurs GCD |
| 15:51.06 | karl_w_w | this is probably why I've forgotten to use it |
| 15:51.34 | Ayrshire | Yeah, emergency tends to go for healing tide, ascendance and/or that life distrib totem |
| 15:51.49 | karl_w_w | "forgotten" in that the only time it's useful is when you can predict a single target is going to need a big heal urgently in the near future |
| 15:52.12 | karl_w_w | but given they took greater healing wave away |
| 15:53.06 | karl_w_w | or you desperately need the 30% move speed |
| 15:53.39 | Ayrshire | I don't raid as resto, so only really heal dungeons, and if one target needs an extra boost, usually more than one does. |
| 15:54.57 | Ayrshire | I should perhaps remember to use it on that damn bridge fight though |
| 15:56.20 | Ayrshire | Nerf cast-while-moving, add dungeon with a run-to-stay-in-place mechanic. :D |
| 15:57.19 | Ayrshire | Where if you DF it, there's a non-trivial chance the dps is lacking and the bridge is covered in fire |
| 15:58.22 | Ayrshire | Although I have yet to wipe on that fight while being the healer, so I guess it's not completely horrible. |
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| 16:45.52 | VIad | karl_w_w: gamersgate things I read about from the "crowd" research was different than the wiki article |
| 16:45.59 | VIad | who is correct? |
| 16:49.29 | Dagmar | I tend to pick a side of the bridge and just take my chances. ;) |
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| 16:51.21 | VIad | since all sources are biased I chose to believe zoe was doing herself favors by abusing other people but then again I haven't really researched too much into it since it's not worth the time :P |
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| 16:54.41 | VIad | the other side is I guess poor zoe she is innocent and this is just guys being jerks? dunno |
| 17:02.22 | karl_w_w | it's pretty much irrelevent |
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| 17:03.06 | karl_w_w | gamergate is full of all sorts of different people, but even if it was just a huge hate campaign as some crazy people want to believe, the tone of that article is still way off |
| 17:18.32 | Simca | there are so many motives for being for gamergate (and equally many for being against it) that the entire thing ends up meaning almost nothing |
| 17:19.45 | karl_w_w | euro truck sim patch is out, 64 bit now |
| 17:19.57 | Simca | you could either: support more openness and journalistic integrity in the gaming media, be against the perception that gamers are misogynist, hate feminists, hate women, hate Zoe in particular, or any number of reasons |
| 17:20.20 | karl_w_w | wow Simca, stamping on my rights |
| 17:20.33 | karl_w_w | i just wanna hate anita sarkeesian |
| 17:20.38 | karl_w_w | why can't I do that? |
| 17:20.43 | Simca | see there's another reason |
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| 17:31.47 | Simca | Power of the Horde needs to be a jukebox option |
| 17:31.57 | Simca | make it happen kd3 |
| 17:39.02 | Fisker | what's a jukebox? |
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| 17:46.52 | Simca | foxlit: doing some testing with http://www.townlong-yak.com/master-plan/data/under.html |
| 17:47.13 | Simca | and in several cases, the math works out IF AND ONLY IF a racial trait is being triggered that shouldn't be |
| 17:47.39 | Simca | for example, last instance in the first mission, 96% > 86% |
| 17:48.36 | Simca | is it possible you're recording race wrong? |
| 17:49.10 | Simca | almost every single example here has 2 followers with a known race + 1 follower with an unknown race + followers with racial traits |
| 17:50.46 | Simca | it's humans |
| 17:50.54 | Simca | you aren't marking humans properly |
| 17:51.50 | Simca | look at "The Wolfmother's Pelts" - obvious case there and in the mission above and below it |
| 17:52.08 | Simca | every follower with a known race has Humanist and is paired with a follower with an unknown race |
| 17:54.03 | ccox | <-- Still confused by all the "Blizzard 2015" news that doesn't mention a single game |
| 17:55.44 | Simca | wut |
| 17:55.53 | Simca | what blizzard 2015 news |
| 17:57.31 | zenzelezz | this is kind of neat... https://twitter.com/FreeBSDHelp/status/560042826021351425/photo/1 |
| 18:11.00 | karl_w_w | this is neater http://steamcommunity.com/games/227300/announcements/detail/125307534322385477 |
| 18:13.56 | Dagmar | So... "American" Truck Simulator |
| 18:14.28 | karl_w_w | the hype for that is just bubbling under the surface in the community |
| 18:14.47 | Dagmar | How realistic is the doing bumps of coke off a hooker's leg minigame? |
| 18:14.47 | karl_w_w | for now the people are being appeased by the stream of euro truck updates |
| 18:14.59 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 18:15.09 | Dagmar | Do they have a "meth purchase gone wrong" event? |
| 18:15.25 | karl_w_w | who knows :P |
| 18:16.31 | karl_w_w | wow they are making euro coach sim as well |
| 18:17.14 | karl_w_w | these people are dedicated to their genre :P |
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| 18:24.55 | Fisker | afternoon Ressy |
| 18:25.10 | Ressy | hey |
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| 18:44.32 | pompy1 | http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/27942551/tail-of-survival-buried-cat-believed-dead-claws-back-to-life |
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| 18:50.53 | zenzelezz | "PT", is that also Pacific time? |
| 18:50.58 | karl_w_w | 83% humidity, flashes of lightning in the middle distance for a few hours now, still refuses to rain |
| 18:52.56 | zenzelezz | pompy1: SMAP launch tomorrow |
| 18:53.21 | foxlit | Simca: oh, that again. |
| 18:53.42 | foxlit | It's a very specific human. |
| 18:55.08 | nevcairiel | selena again? |
| 18:55.19 | nevcairiel | or what was her name |
| 18:55.39 | nevcairiel | serena, thats it |
| 18:56.49 | karl_w_w | PT is that teaser game for Silent Hills, zenzelezz |
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| 18:58.23 | foxlit | yes; they hotfixed that race tag, but I'm still scanning old dbcs. |
| 18:59.04 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: somehow I don't think they're planning to launch the sattelite at 8 AM Silent Hill |
| 18:59.15 | karl_w_w | why not? :P |
| 18:59.31 | foxlit | looks like I'm wrong about voidslayer as well. |
| 19:05.55 | foxlit | (problematically, I don't actually record races, so figuring them out is a little tricky. I should probably update the addon) |
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| 19:14.22 | fewyn | my brother took me to chipotle... i was thouroughly unimpressed |
| 19:16.15 | Torhal | I never understood the fanfare behind it. |
| 19:16.20 | Torhal | It's pretty meh. |
| 19:17.34 | Fisker | American food places are pretty meh |
| 19:17.34 | Fisker | :P |
| 19:19.00 | Fisker | Torhal isn't pretty meh though |
| 19:19.19 | Torhal | Definitely not pretty. |
| 19:22.26 | Neffi | applies breading to Torhal and throws him into a deep fryer. |
| 19:25.16 | Torhal | applies tabasco sauce to Neffi's fingertips whilst he sleeps. |
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| 19:40.59 | Neffi | Torhal: that sounds wonderful |
| 19:41.03 | Neffi | I love tobasco sauce |
| 19:41.15 | Unkle | Yeah, but not in your eyes. |
| 19:41.26 | Neffi | why would I stick my finger in my eye? |
| 19:41.52 | Unkle | Which you will almost certainly put your hands near while sleeping. |
| 19:42.17 | Neffi | maybe |
| 19:42.21 | Neffi | perhaps we could test this |
| 19:42.37 | Unkle | Are you volunteering? |
| 19:42.48 | Neffi | no |
| 19:42.52 | Neffi | I assume Torhal would |
| 19:44.25 | Unkle | It'd be like getting pepper sprayed. |
| 19:45.03 | Semlar | sprays neffi |
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| 19:47.05 | Neffi | Semlar: what did I tell you? if you don't stop, we'll get you neutered |
| 19:47.46 | Semlar | i'm just marking my territory |
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| 19:58.13 | Torhal | Many folks even rub their eyes upon waking. |
| 20:01.25 | Unkle | s/Many/Most |
| 20:09.52 | Fisker | I'll be coming back for you one day Torhal |
| 20:15.30 | Torhal | What did I do now, Fisker? |
| 20:15.36 | Torhal | I didn't tabasco you. |
| 20:15.41 | Fisker | Noe |
| 20:15.42 | Fisker | nope |
| 20:15.46 | Fisker | That's why I'm coming back for you |
| 20:15.52 | Torhal | Oh. |
| 20:17.07 | Fisker | I'm almost level 60 |
| 20:29.42 | Sharparam | nice |
| 20:30.12 | Sharparam | guild accidentally pulled bracken without me |
| 20:30.20 | Sharparam | i managed to climb the invisible wall onto a mushroom and jump in |
| 20:32.03 | karl_w_w | 16000 unread emails |
| 20:38.21 | Mr_Rabies | it'd be nice if i stopped getting xp missions now that i have all the followers i want to epic :< |
| 20:38.48 | nevcairiel | 95% of the missions are xp missions, you dont want an empty list :p |
| 20:39.02 | nevcairiel | besides, just run them for salvage |
| 20:40.50 | Mr_Rabies | i'm kinda tired of salvage :< |
| 20:41.11 | Mr_Rabies | i usually have 2-3 unopened stacks before i open them |
| 20:44.06 | karl_w_w | wow i didn't know that, euro truck sim 2 ships with the dev tools |
| 20:44.18 | karl_w_w | do any other games do that? |
| 20:46.27 | karl_w_w | well I guess source games do |
| 20:46.47 | nevcairiel | not necessarily "ship with", but some games offer some dev tools |
| 20:46.56 | nevcairiel | as additional downloads or whatnot |
| 20:59.46 | Mr_Rabies | every recent bethesda game has had mod tools available near or at launch |
| 21:00.07 | Mr_Rabies | DOTA 2 has an editor now |
| 21:00.26 | karl_w_w | not mod tools, they're the same editors the devs use :P |
| 21:01.55 | Fisker | level 60 time karl_w_w |
| 21:02.14 | karl_w_w | no such thing Fisker |
| 21:02.32 | Fisker | But there is |
| 21:02.34 | Fisker | And I just got it |
| 21:02.46 | Fisker | Golden dalaran mage worth it |
| 21:03.34 | karl_w_w | i only have 3 classes at 60 |
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| 21:20.37 | foxlit | Simca: I think what remains is a grab bag of crazy: http://www.townlong-yak.com/master-plan/data/under.html |
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| 21:22.19 | Fisker- | :( |
| 21:23.35 | Thunder_Child | I'm just waiting for you guys to figure out all the math for missions then have Blizz go, oh yea, we exposed the API for you, have fun. |
| 21:25.33 | foxlit | personally, I'd be waiting for "oh, we changed everything, have fun." |
| 21:27.24 | karl_w_w | that wouldn't happen foxlit |
| 21:27.36 | karl_w_w | they wouldn't tell us they changed it! |
| 21:28.27 | Thunder_Child | It would be in the patch note "We made changes to the way missions work, things should be much better now." |
| 21:28.30 | Thunder_Child | notes* |
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| 21:51.02 | Simca | foxlit: that eliminated everything except the problem children missions? |
| 21:51.13 | Simca | haha yeah |
| 21:51.16 | Simca | http://www.townlong-yak.com/master-plan/data/over.html |
| 21:51.21 | Simca | http://www.townlong-yak.com/master-plan/data/under.html |
| 21:51.23 | Simca | same 3 missions |
| 21:51.37 | Simca | those freaking missions man |
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| 21:54.37 | Simca | really, Fisker |
| 21:54.38 | Simca | really |
| 21:54.49 | Simca | you added how.i.met.your. to your domain name? |
| 21:55.46 | Fisker | That's a long time ago Simca |
| 21:56.20 | Fisker | Though I almost never leave the place :P |
| 21:58.53 | Fisker | Why? |
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| 22:00.36 | Fisker | That's some polyphasic sleep right there |
| 22:34.13 | Stanzilla | foxlit: do you have an opie build for the ptr somewhere? |
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| 22:52.50 | Simca | kd3: trying to track down the Tinkertown Music Roll - halfway through Gnomeregan with no sign so far, did 25 grime-encrusted objects for lulz too |
| 22:58.04 | Simca | every time I play this game, I feel like I only see the bugs |
| 22:59.00 | Simca | discovered 2 more in the last 30 minutes of gameplay alone: first boss in gnomeregan has rocks that are supposed to spawn during the event, except they're bugged and they spawn before the event. |
| 22:59.10 | Simca | sparklematic-wrapped boxes can sometimes contain nothing |
| 23:00.55 | Simca | i kind of wish the devs would just take a month to do a huge bugfix push and eliminate a thousand bugs or so |
| 23:02.29 | Unkle | And then people who drive subscription revenue would complain that they were wasting time that they should be spending making the next Ray D. Tear. |
| 23:08.45 | nevcairiel | no matter what they focus on, or not focus on anything and just work on everything in parallel, there will be complainers and haters for ever scenario |
| 23:09.00 | nevcairiel | every* |
| 23:09.13 | kd3 | heh, oops. fury of frostmourne only hits for 18k damage now |
| 23:09.30 | nevcairiel | "This is not a content content patch, there is only bugfixes in here, how dare they call this 6.2" |
| 23:09.34 | nevcairiel | -content |
| 23:10.44 | kd3 | ok, one more roll confirmed |
| 23:11.16 | Brainling | doesn't help that WoW is 11 year old code, that was already based on 10 year old code when it was released, and is fucking massive...I can't even imagine manging their code base |
| 23:12.03 | nevcairiel | kd3: that thing hasnt killed me for a long time now |
| 23:12.38 | nevcairiel | it almost felt like I resisted it occasionally |
| 23:20.07 | Neffi | old code is not automatically bad or unmaintainable code |
| 23:23.58 | Simca | the majority of these bugs will take <10 min of dev time each |
| 23:24.37 | Simca | I could solve a couple hundred in a month easy if i had access to their database, just by seeing the flaws in various parts of dbc/db2 data over the years |
| 23:26.23 | kullervo | wtb DS10 boost for my alt (EU), I want the save for later abuse |
| 23:26.55 | nevcairiel | Simca: you are assuming you know how it all interacts, which can be a dangerous thing |
| 23:28.16 | Simca | nevcairiel: I know enough to fix the simple bugs, and there are probably a thousand of those easy |
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| 23:29.10 | nevcairiel | Or so you assume |
| 23:29.19 | Simca | changing librams to grey quality is just a 1 cell fix per libram (8 cells total) in item-sparse |
| 23:29.36 | nevcairiel | Unless you actually know, you know nothing, you dont even know how much you dont know |
| 23:30.43 | Simca | in the case of dbcs/db2s, I actually know |
| 23:31.08 | nevcairiel | No, you don't. You have no idea what the server might want, or the internal databases, or who knows what |
| 23:31.32 | nevcairiel | All I'm saying is that you should never assume things about complex systems you know practically zero about |
| 23:32.59 | Simca | I would usually agree with you, except for the amount of time I've spent reversing this particular system (server DBs -> DBC/DB2 -> ADB/WDB) gives me confidence to say I know enough |
| 23:33.30 | nevcairiel | Unfortunately, you will probably never find out what you don't know |
| 23:39.05 | Simca | in this particular instance, what I don't know isn't of great value to me, mostly. (exception being flag meanings ;_; and the remaining unmapped db2s) |
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| 23:41.20 | Neffi | well Simca, you don't know that the server doesn't have a line of code like: if libramitem.quality != green then burn_down_everything |
| 23:41.28 | Neffi | there could be all sorts of "wtf" in any codebase |
| 23:42.34 | Simca | I am making the assumption that they don't employ rhesus monkeys, which may be an invalid assumption |
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| 23:42.53 | Neffi | it very well may be |
| 23:43.02 | Neffi | from what I've seen some of their workers are pretty hairy |
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| 23:43.57 | Simca | hah |
