| 00:00.06 | Stanzilla | I know, I was just making sure I do not forget later! |
| 00:00.11 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 00:04.43 | mikma | ssateneth: yes he is, also a dick |
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| 00:16.07 | Fisker | Hey haste |
| 00:16.59 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 00:17.10 | Fisker | I want to sleep |
| 00:17.21 | haste | then go to sleep |
| 00:17.47 | Fisker | Can't |
| 00:19.14 | Fisker | Egon 2015 never forget |
| 00:19.35 | Fisker | Somebody's vacation house fell into the ocean |
| 00:19.37 | tlund | Fisker: worst over in .dk yet? |
| 00:19.45 | Fisker | idk |
| 00:20.04 | Fisker | I'm not sure if there's anything left worth saving |
| 00:20.20 | Fisker | RIP that vacation house |
| 00:34.09 | zenzelezz | Egon? |
| 00:35.27 | Fisker | Name of the storm |
| 00:35.36 | zenzelezz | oh |
| 00:35.40 | zenzelezz | I think they called it Nina here |
| 00:36.39 | Fisker | Kinky |
| 00:39.04 | Torhal | Cairenn doesn't have birthdays. She has yearly parties. |
| 00:39.09 | Cairenn | heh |
| 00:39.32 | Fisker | She was born Torhal stop lying :< |
| 00:39.45 | Torhal | Why so mean, Fisker? |
| 00:40.11 | Fisker | engages fisticuffs |
| 00:41.43 | Kowh | Born fully formed from the forhead of a narwhal? |
| 00:42.01 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 00:52.16 | Torhal | Zeus is not a narwhal, Kowh. |
| 00:52.45 | Kowh | He's whatever animal he wants to have sex with |
| 00:52.50 | Torhal | ... |
| 00:52.56 | Torhal | slowly backs away. |
| 00:53.19 | Fisker | joins Torhal in the backawaytorium |
| 00:53.28 | Kowh | https://gs1.wac.edgecastcdn.net/8019B6/data.tumblr.com/4680ce14aa7333b67684f620f8889663/tumblr_mikuk9yr6S1qlt9mlo1_500.jpg |
| 00:55.02 | harl | yea |
| 00:55.18 | harl | well, hail Zeus then, yes? |
| 00:57.11 | foxlit | racial traits are annoying :( |
| 00:58.14 | harl | lol |
| 00:59.20 | foxlit | let's say I tally the number of each trait in the party, so I could tell you that you have 2 Ally of Argus followers in the party, 1 Humanist, and 1 Canine Companion; also, the party consists of a Human and a Draenei |
| 00:59.33 | foxlit | it is now super-inconvinient to actually figure out which of those things activate. |
| 01:01.11 | foxlit | (or if the party consists of two Draenei and a Human) |
| 01:03.17 | harl | communicate |
| 01:03.28 | harl | yes, it's still inconvenient |
| 01:04.02 | harl | but it often as well works |
| 01:05.06 | harl | also, addons might help |
| 01:05.22 | foxlit | go home, harl, you're drunk. |
| 01:05.32 | kd3 | here we go, one winged angel time |
| 01:05.44 | harl | i'm at home and never drunk |
| 01:09.06 | Thunder_Child | That puts you into the minority. |
| 01:16.29 | jleclanche | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/13611763/%5Bapril-fools%5D-hitting-on-the-selection-of-a-name-4-1-2014 man I hadn't seen this before |
| 01:17.08 | Fisker | haha herald of the stars |
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| 01:24.47 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.03 | jleclanche | Fisker: the gold quote: With recent successful titles Heart of the Swarm, Heroes of the Storm, and Hearth (of the) Stone, we took notice of playersâ absolute love for this particular string of letters. |
| 01:25.21 | Fisker | lol |
| 01:28.23 | kd3 | TASbot round two up next. this'll be interesting if it was anywhere near as cool as pokemon plays twitch earlier in the week |
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| 02:43.55 | Ssateneth | master plan dev in here? |
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| 02:44.55 | Neffi | Ask your question and if somebody is capable of providing the answer (be them the author or not), they will do so |
| 02:47.10 | nebula169 | (or post a ticket) |
| 02:47.25 | Torhal | Overwatch trademark denied: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=968750 |
| 02:47.45 | nebula169 | yea, i bet blizz is pissed at the guy that provisionally approved it |
| 02:48.40 | Torhal | That's something that should have been done AFTER approval. |
| 02:49.50 | Ressy | oh my.... |
| 02:49.57 | Ressy | someone really dropped the ball at Blizzard |
| 02:50.28 | Simca | meh |
| 02:50.39 | Simca | this is a problem they can literally just throw money at |
| 02:51.01 | Torhal | But it's money they shouldn't have had to, with due dilligence. |
| 02:51.10 | Simca | yeah |
| 02:51.33 | Iriel | Im not sure what dilligence they needed |
| 02:51.44 | Iriel | the trademark office initially said they didnât think itâd infringe/cause confusion |
| 02:51.48 | Iriel | and then they changed their minds |
| 02:52.02 | Torhal | Hmm, didn't notice that part. |
| 02:52.26 | nebula169 | no, they said there was something pending that could cause blizzard'd application to be refused instead of suspending it there |
| 02:53.16 | nebula169 | s/said/sent a note/ |
| 02:53.29 | Iriel | Ah, I see - Would be intereswting to see what their original responde had said. |
| 02:53.46 | Ssateneth | i guess i'll just make a ticket. i asked the same question here 3 times, no response |
| 02:55.17 | Torhal | Ssateneth: If you'd ping foxlit directly, he may actually respond. |
| 03:11.51 | Thunder_Child | Or he will say "make a ticket" |
| 03:12.01 | Thunder_Child | Which would be the proper course of action. |
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| 03:18.56 | Semlar | what was the question |
| 03:19.43 | Thunder_Child | How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood. |
| 03:20.04 | Ssateneth | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/master-plan/tickets/226-list-possible-abilities-for-reroll/ |
| 03:24.19 | foxlit | >12 hours ago: foxlit: Ssateneth: I kind of want to see the possible ability rerolls for a follower in case i want to reroll for a certain counter << last I looked, I couldn't find an obvious binding between follower spec and available abilities |
| 03:25.12 | Ssateneth | its right on wowhead |
| 03:25.28 | foxlit | and how does wowhead know? :) |
| 03:25.40 | Ssateneth | datamined maybe? i dunno o.o |
| 03:28.03 | Ssateneth | but it would be a good starting point, and if something doesnt jive with it (maybe a mage can get invisibility for wild aggression), slap it in as a bugfix. |
| 03:28.10 | foxlit | hopefully datamined, which means that what I'm asking for is really "from where" |
| 03:28.27 | foxlit | I don't particularly want to have to transcribe wowhead to update things. |
| 03:28.51 | Ssateneth | i mean isnt a lot of stuff for addons trial and error? or am i wrong? |
| 03:29.26 | Ssateneth | well then, gotta find wowhead's irc then and ask there, i dunno |
| 03:29.32 | Semlar | either there's an api function that gives us the available class traits or there isn't |
| 03:29.49 | kullervo | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:30.28 | kullervo | Ssateneth: fewyn may be active with ~16h delay on hilight, but he's not responsible anymore but knows people who are |
| 03:30.43 | foxlit | http://www.curseforge.com/media/images/80/533/missions-of-interest.jpg << see if you can guess which highmaul mission my alt actually got. |
| 03:30.55 | Ressy | lol |
| 03:30.56 | Semlar | is it the 90% one |
| 03:31.17 | foxlit | yep. |
| 03:31.18 | fewyn | i no longer work for zam so im not in #wowhead |
| 03:31.34 | kullervo | I thought you were o.O |
| 03:31.35 | fewyn | y u ping me kullevro |
| 03:31.42 | kullervo | I'm not exactly sober over here |
| 03:31.48 | fewyn | laid off in oct |
| 03:32.12 | Ssateneth | wowhead is a business? o.o |
| 03:32.17 | Torhal | ZAM is |
| 03:32.21 | Torhal | And they own WoWHead. |
| 03:32.21 | Ssateneth | i thought it was a community driven thing |
| 03:32.31 | kullervo | good one |
| 03:32.41 | Torhal | No, someone has to pay for bandwidth, hosting, site overhauls. |
| 03:33.50 | Neffi | really? I was under the impress the internet was magic, and money appeared out of thin air as soon as you did something kinda cool on it |
| 03:34.14 | Torhal | sends Neffi off to the COBOL mines. |
| 03:34.42 | Neffi | oh god no |
| 03:40.11 | Semlar | i'll save you neffi |
| 03:40.35 | kd3 | if you're not watching AGDQ, they're going to run the first three dungeons of Ocarina of Time blindfolded in a few minutes... http://gamesdonequick.com |
| 03:46.32 | kd3 | scratch that, he's running the whole game up until he gets the ocarina blindfolded |
| 03:49.48 | Neffi | thefuck |
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| 03:52.42 | Stanzilla | foxlit: can you maybe the mission you currently have in the missions of interest tab |
| 03:52.59 | Stanzilla | that would be cool |
| 03:53.55 | Thunder_Child | Did you forget a word Stanzilla? |
| 03:54.44 | tz | chuckles |
| 03:55.46 | Stanzilla | OH |
| 03:55.48 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 03:56.02 | Stanzilla | foxlit: can you maybe HIGHLIGHT the mission you currently have in the missions of interest tab |
| 03:56.03 | Stanzilla | there |
| 03:56.04 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 04:01.10 | foxlit | it's a little inconvinient to get a list of available missions at that point, and my choice of highlights is somewhat limited. |
| 04:01.48 | foxlit | garrison api is all a little "okay, spawn a bazillion tables for me" when all you want is a single boolean return value. |
| 04:02.10 | Stanzilla | instead of the "last completed:" you could show "up for:" and maybe a small highlight texture? |
| 04:03.55 | Stanzilla | text would be enough for me though :p |
| 04:04.20 | Stanzilla | I just have a hard time tabbing between the tabs and remembering which mission is mine |
| 04:04.41 | foxlit | for highmaul, you can note the double threat or its absence |
| 04:05.27 | foxlit | but yeah, it's inconvinient. new version is somewhat worse for swiching between tabs; the frameskip is annoying. |
| 04:05.41 | Stanzilla | okay, want me to make a ticket? |
| 04:05.57 | foxlit | sure. Maybe include the texture you're thinking of. |
| 04:06.56 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 04:08.47 | tz | ahh cool, you put success percentage on the missions of interest tab |
| 04:09.00 | tz | 100% for all bar one, which has 95% |
| 04:09.01 | tz | winrar |
| 04:11.27 | foxlit | the percentages are mine, so whether they correspond to reality or not is up for debate. |
| 04:12.45 | Stanzilla | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/master-plan/tickets/227-highlight-active-missions-on-moi-tab/ |
| 04:12.57 | Stanzilla | just had an idea while writing it, can just dim all the missions that are currently not active |
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| 05:00.18 | karl_w_w | that's odd |
| 05:00.57 | karl_w_w | some letters I can't remember where they are on the keyboard if I try to remember |
| 05:01.15 | karl_w_w | but if I'm typing them in a word I just automatically press them without thinking about it |
| 05:02.30 | kd3 | muscle memory |
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| 06:12.35 | dolby | Happy Birthday Cairenn :D |
| 06:12.46 | Cairenn | Thanks dolby :) |
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| 06:38.30 | MysticalOS | foxlit, you change logic a bit on recommended followers? the update actually changed a few teams |
| 06:45.51 | Torhal | Cairenn: Still not old enough to hit the bars, eh? |
| 06:45.58 | Cairenn | Torhal: lol |
| 06:53.07 | Simca | MysticalOS: if you're talking about the missions of interest tab, it accounts for traits now |
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| 07:45.38 | karl_w_w | i scratched the back of my head and the nerve on the outside of my left arm went all zappy |
| 07:46.39 | karl_w_w | that must be what people mean when they say "press my buttons" :P |
| 07:49.44 | Dagmar | ...either that or it's really time to trim your nails. |
| 07:53.26 | karl_w_w | that's not it, i didn't even scratch with my nails :P |
| 07:53.33 | karl_w_w | just sort of rubbed my hair |
| 07:53.43 | karl_w_w | anyway, http://beauty-places.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Kalmar-Castle-wallpaper.jpg = http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TMcg14sxAGs/VK6om6lSN5I/AAAAAAAABcs/_1B-DfcVLlE/s0/ets2_scandinavia_kalmar_007.jpg |
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| 08:42.39 | karl_w_w | god damn you Max http://bits.wikimedia.org/en.wikipedia.org/load.php |
| 09:07.45 | Trela | Fucking Mediawiki. |
| 09:26.36 | karl_w_w | http://forum.xentax.com/donate_stripe.php the cheek |
| 10:01.31 | jleclanche | haha Fisker are you here? |
| 10:02.19 | Stanzilla | hey jerome |
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| 10:04.23 | Fisker | Yes jleclanche |
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| 11:17.35 | Industrial | Too much cover/englishversiononethousandsevenhundredschfiftyschfive |
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| 11:18.03 | Industrial | Can aynone find the original "Lacus Clyne - Fields of Hope" (voiced by Tanaka Rie) ? |
| 11:18.09 | Industrial | (in Japanese) |
| 11:18.44 | Mr_Rabies | i refuse to assist with anything gundam seed related |
| 11:18.44 | Mr_Rabies | :v |
| 11:18.54 | Industrial | gundam seed destiny? :D |
| 11:19.04 | Mr_Rabies | even less so |
| 11:19.07 | Industrial | xD |
| 11:19.45 | Mr_Rabies | have you watched any of the new gundam show |
| 11:19.53 | Mr_Rabies | it's so good :D |
| 11:20.08 | Mr_Rabies | Gundam: Reconguista in G, that is |
| 11:20.16 | Industrial | Yeah some of it, 3 eps. |
| 11:20.34 | Mr_Rabies | it's from the original creator of the franchise |
| 11:20.39 | Mr_Rabies | i love his stuff so much |
| 11:20.44 | Industrial | I've began watching all of Naruto Shippuuden cause I never saw it (only the original series) and I think I just need to have seen it :) |
| 11:21.16 | Mr_Rabies | to me, gundam seed is taking tomino's creation and twisting it into some kind of horrible monster, hence my dislike |
| 11:21.24 | Mr_Rabies | the only AU gundam show that i like is G Gundam |
| 11:21.44 | Industrial | I personally loved seed and destiny and X after war most |
| 11:21.54 | Industrial | oh, and Wing cause I saw that on dutch tv when I was a little kid |
| 11:22.04 | Mr_Rabies | you should watch G Gundam sometime |
| 11:22.14 | Mr_Rabies | the netherlands gundam will inspire you |
| 11:22.39 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.toplessrobot.com/gf13-066no.jpg |
| 11:22.45 | Industrial | o_O |
| 11:22.54 | Industrial | lolwat haha nice |
| 11:23.17 | Mr_Rabies | it has a stealth mode: http://www.collectiondx.com/gallery2/gallery/d/650912-3/IMG_2899.JPG |
| 11:23.31 | Mr_Rabies | G Gundam is basically like |
| 11:23.57 | Mr_Rabies | instead of war, humanity has decided to settle conflicts with Gundam martial arts tournaments instead |
| 11:24.01 | Mr_Rabies | but that's not really what it's about at all |
| 11:24.44 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:24.47 | Industrial | hahaha xD |
| 11:25.10 | Industrial | wow I need to go watch that series, thanks! |
| 11:25.54 | Mr_Rabies | it's about brotherhood, friendship forged through strength, and also this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAizwLfZbUA |
| 11:26.05 | Mr_Rabies | (the dub is pretty awful but i'm too lazy to find the japanese version) |
| 11:26.18 | Mr_Rabies | oh |
| 11:26.34 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AwV3o0nAYk |
| 11:27.24 | jleclanche | so the rares on isle of thunder no longer spawn? |
| 11:27.35 | nevcairiel | why wouldnt they |
| 11:27.48 | jleclanche | I havent seen 99% of them since WoD |
| 11:27.57 | jleclanche | impossible to get a new key |
| 11:28.00 | jleclanche | ive checked regularly |
| 11:28.41 | Stanzilla | they removed that scenario anyway |
| 11:28.50 | jleclanche | ive just done it 15 times |
| 11:28.54 | nebula169 | nah, keys don't drop anymore |
| 11:28.58 | jleclanche | ah |
| 11:29.02 | nebula169 | scenario is still there to use up old ones |
| 11:29.30 | jleclanche | kinda sucks, it was one of the most fun bits of content of mop |
| 11:29.40 | Stanzilla | or that |
| 11:29.40 | jleclanche | actually screw that kinda, this really blows |
| 11:30.07 | Stanzilla | best was that sonic rolling daily on the wall |
| 11:31.53 | nevcairiel | they removed it because it would be too trivial to farm it for gold and stuff now |
| 11:33.15 | Mr_Rabies | neo france's gundam rose will soothe your rage jleclanche http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/gundam/images/6/60/GF13-009NF_Gundam_Rose_Front.png |
| 11:33.33 | Mr_Rabies | it's on a weekly timegate, i don' really see how |
| 11:33.38 | Mr_Rabies | the payout wasn't -that- good |
| 11:34.01 | Mr_Rabies | probably bots exploiting something or another and it was easier to just disable it than bother fixing them |
| 11:36.27 | Mr_Rabies | weird though, there are achieves for that place, are they all FoS now? |
| 11:36.31 | nevcairiel | huh, it wasnt gated weekly |
| 11:36.51 | Mr_Rabies | the trove of the thunder king? was that not weekly? |
| 11:36.56 | Mr_Rabies | it's been too long, lol |
| 11:37.42 | nevcairiel | as far as i remember, you could do it as often as you had keys |
| 11:38.03 | Mr_Rabies | i thought you could only get one key a week |
| 11:38.11 | Mr_Rabies | except the first week, where things were buggy as hell |
| 11:38.17 | Mr_Rabies | maybe not |
| 11:38.20 | nevcairiel | you could loot one from a mob, but there are other sources |
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| 12:10.41 | halp | Hello yall. I'm seeking help with LoseControl addon, the frame shows up for 1 second then disappears. Anybody knows why is this happening? |
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| 12:20.50 | mikma | halp: sounds like it's broken |
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| 13:11.23 | karl_w_w | Debugging 101: finding out if it's broken |
| 13:25.19 | karl_w_w | anyone here speak russian? |
| 13:42.38 | Stanzilla | Guest60243 does |
| 13:43.11 | halp | mikma: wow thanks man :D |
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| 14:09.02 | jleclanche | karl_w_w: to an extent, sup |
| 14:09.18 | karl_w_w | i got past it thanks |
| 14:09.27 | jleclanche | fine |
| 14:09.32 | jleclanche | didn't want to help you anyway |
| 14:09.47 | karl_w_w | I had to go full cyka and register on a russian forum using google translate |
| 14:10.07 | nevcairiel | sounds like a fun thing to spend an afternoon on |
| 14:11.52 | Fisker | I once killed a guy using a russian forum |
| 14:11.58 | Fisker | don't tell tekkub though |
| 14:28.52 | jleclanche | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.57 | jleclanche | Fisker: https://mediacru.sh/Q/QH-R1sRpgtip.png |
| 14:29.18 | Fisker | ptr? |
| 14:29.21 | jleclanche | nope. |
| 14:29.32 | Fisker | That's bad |
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| 14:45.01 | Simca | jleclanche: ahhhh, i just read why the haunted memento was the #1 spawn |
| 14:45.08 | jleclanche | Simca: yes? |
| 14:45.22 | Simca | when you are on a flying mount, it spawns behind you, falls out of range, and then respawns again |
| 14:45.24 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: happy birthday! |
| 14:45.27 | Simca | it does that continuously |
| 14:45.30 | jleclanche | <sigh> |
| 14:45.51 | Buttmancer | did that continously.. |
| 14:45.53 | Buttmancer | no longer.. |
| 14:45.57 | Buttmancer | rip haunted memento |
| 14:45.59 | jleclanche | happy new personal year Cairenn |
| 14:46.18 | Simca | personal year, awesome |
| 14:46.48 | jleclanche | Simca: "instead of fixing that, we shall nerf it!" |
| 14:47.38 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 14:47.39 | Fisker | RIP |
| 14:47.48 | Fisker | It's almost worse than swirly ball |
| 14:48.44 | jleclanche | I really think the wow design team doesn't get it, in many ways |
| 14:49.27 | jleclanche | "those people have had enough fun now" |
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| 15:02.11 | karl_w_w | say no to fun |
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| 15:17.08 | jleclanche | Simca: did you see http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/13611763/%5Bapril-fools%5D-hitting-on-the-selection-of-a-name-4-1-2014 ? |
| 15:17.24 | Simca | yes, good stuff |
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| 15:20.21 | Industrial | thats interesting.. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info23272-HonorGold.html |
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| 15:25.52 | Simca | C# references multidimensional arrays using commas? |
| 15:25.57 | Simca | fuckin' weird |
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| 16:09.22 | Industrial | Besides Enhancement Shaman, what other class has a cooldown priority based rotation? |
| 16:11.06 | Simca | every melee spec ever |
| 16:11.11 | Simca | Ret for sure |
| 16:11.15 | Industrial | right |
| 16:12.02 | Industrial | Cat/Bear druid? :D |
| 16:12.46 | Simca | Bear is, but there's rage to consider, so it is less |
| 16:13.01 | Simca | Cat is actually heavily DoT focused, unless that has changed recently |
| 16:13.27 | Simca | so i mean there's definitely priority based rotation there but it is based also on enemy debuffs from you |
| 16:13.43 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/dQYncXe |
| 16:13.46 | Simca | for Ret it doesn't matter about your enemy just your cooldowns |
| 16:14.14 | Industrial | Same for Enh, just some procs in between |
| 16:56.40 | jleclanche | foxlit: in the missions of interest tab, is master plan able to propose a better team from your inactive followers if you can't reach 100% as is? |
| 17:04.14 | foxlit | jleclanche: "Switching to the Missions of interest tab while holding ALT allows suggested groups to include inactive followers." |
| 17:04.38 | jleclanche | ah |
| 17:04.40 | jleclanche | neat |
| 17:33.28 | foxlit | could someone with http://www.wowhead.com/follower=154/magister-serena-magister-krelas check if they activate Humanist / Elvenkind for Alliance/Horde respectively? |
| 17:34.45 | Simca | they were hotfixed, right? |
| 17:35.20 | foxlit | Maybe; I don't actually keep up with hotfixes. |
| 17:35.44 | Simca | they were listed in the hotfixes. |
| 17:35.50 | foxlit | hm, december 3rd. |
| 17:36.05 | Simca | so race IS in a db2 then |
| 17:36.23 | Simca | you can just load the adb and find the hotfixed values |
| 17:38.54 | foxlit | the who now? :) |
| 17:40.53 | Simca | Cache\ADB\enUS\GarrFollower.adb |
| 17:41.03 | Simca | or whatever db2 name you pulled this from.adb |
| 17:41.40 | Simca | garrfollower is the only one that has been hotfixed actually |
| 17:41.41 | Simca | so yeah |
| 17:41.47 | Simca | the rest are 50 bytes (header only) |
| 17:43.21 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.10 | Simca | blizzard loves to write the same adb data every time you see it |
| 17:44.21 | Simca | because reading files before you write is hard |
| 17:44.30 | Simca | so just ignore duplicate lines |
| 17:44.59 | Simca | well, the line with the lowest ID is the real one basicallly |
| 17:45.36 | Simca | since that's how WoW would read it - it'd read the lines in sequence, dropping the first ones and replacing them for the later ones if the IDs matched |
| 17:45.38 | foxlit | hm, it doesn't guess the string column correctly, which is kind of meh. |
| 17:46.12 | Simca | adbs report the wrong number of columns |
| 17:46.13 | Simca | btw |
| 17:46.25 | Simca | so if your parser relies on header data being correct you will have to 'fix' it |
| 17:47.00 | foxlit | in this particular case things look okay. |
| 17:49.29 | Simca | ah ok |
| 17:49.48 | Simca | well a piece of incorrect header info is still my guess as to why your parser wouldn't be reading the string section properly |
| 17:50.06 | Fisker | Â |
| 17:58.10 | foxlit | Okay, no, that was self-inflicted. |
| 17:58.32 | foxlit | I don't like it when string columns contain the same string by referring to different places in the string block. |
| 17:59.07 | foxlit | So it's looking at those rows and thinking "Hey, there's no way they just encoded the same thing 7 times over, this must not be a string" |
| 18:00.16 | Simca | lol |
| 18:00.36 | Simca | I have about 28 rows of it personally |
| 18:03.06 | Simca | you could probably make your parser more sane than mine and more like blizzards if you just dropped a row when you parsed a new one with an identical ID |
| 18:03.33 | Simca | that way your adb parsing would only show what is really still there - what the game would see when reading it, and you shouldn't have that issue with the strings since there would be no dupe rows |
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| 18:05.24 | foxlit | I think the current behaviour is an okay balance; it's up to whatever is consuming the output to figure out what to do with the rows anyway. |
| 18:06.25 | foxlit | The nasty workaround is to insist that (offset, string) is unique of just (string), which is probably okay. |
| 18:07.11 | foxlit | [so really just (; maybe that breaks elsewhere.] |
| 18:07.15 | foxlit | ^offset) |
| 18:10.21 | Simca | we had a looooot of issues with assumptions involving strings in specific db2s |
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| 18:31.31 | foxlit | heh, carried by a druid in flight form. |
| 18:31.49 | foxlit | while being a druid. Rubbing it in, clearly. |
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| 18:37.27 | Neffi | <foxlit> heh, carried by a druid in flight form. <- you can do that now? or a bug? |
| 18:37.38 | foxlit | scripted quest sequence |
| 18:37.43 | Neffi | ah, ok |
| 18:38.09 | Neffi | I wish they allowed that, even if it required you to obtain one of the other 2P flying mounts first |
| 18:38.24 | Neffi | or otherwise unlock it in some special way |
| 18:40.01 | Buttmancer | giving a vendor gold |
| 18:40.05 | Buttmancer | sounds special enough to me |
| 18:40.48 | Neffi | people might view that as an unfair advantage to druids, unless it applied equally to all flying mounts |
| 18:41.11 | Neffi | ideally, the solution would fairly target all classes |
| 18:41.13 | Buttmancer | druids already get instant flight |
| 18:41.23 | Neffi | aye. their flight form is already enough of an advantage. |
| 18:41.37 | Buttmancer | how would 2p instant flight be a major advantage |
| 18:42.13 | Neffi | an easily-accessible 2P mount that only one class could get, while all other classes had to jump through hoops to obtain an 2P mount (like RAF, etc) would be the advantage |
| 18:42.38 | Neffi | If you're essentially gonna give the benefit for free (gold is not a huge hurdle) then you should give it to everyone |
| 18:43.13 | Neffi | The only reason we enjoy exclusive insta-cast flying is becasue mobility is a core part of our toolset (or at least was when it was introduced) |
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| 18:44.58 | Buttmancer | you can buy 2p mounts |
| 18:45.03 | Buttmancer | make it cost the same as them |
| 18:45.03 | Buttmancer | done |
| 18:45.42 | Neffi | hmm, I did not know you could buy 2p flyers for gold now |
| 18:45.50 | Buttmancer | alchemy mount |
| 18:46.11 | Neffi | the one that's excessively rare to craft and therefore prohibitively expensive? |
| 18:46.59 | Buttmancer | its like 50k iirc |
| 18:47.23 | Simca | it always sells for under mat cost |
| 18:47.42 | Simca | people use it as a form of currency for bypassing server transfer gold cap |
| 18:53.28 | Fisker | Hehe butts |
| 18:57.25 | Buttmancer | transmitting more than 3kb of data over the addoncomms channel is an exciting adventure |
| 19:21.15 | fewyn | nitroboosts being on the same cooldown on potions is bullpoop |
| 19:22.11 | Neffi | why bring the taurens into this? |
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| 19:59.55 | foxlit | aren't they basically a fail-prone swiftness potion? |
| 20:02.34 | Simca | at this point, they're probably worse than swiftness potions, yes |
| 20:07.41 | Semlar | i noticed that they mentioned raising the healing from the potion injector tinker but i don't know if that's already in the game and just a tooltip fix or not yet implemented |
| 20:08.56 | Semlar | i don't see it on the list of hotfixes |
| 20:09.07 | Semlar | so it's probably new to 6.1 |
| 20:09.58 | Semlar | it seems like on of the less useless tinkers since it would free up having to carry around potions |
| 20:10.12 | Semlar | on/one |
| 20:37.20 | Neffi | no Semlar |
| 20:40.48 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:41.33 | Neffi | i dont know what this is Semlar |
| 20:41.50 | Semlar | it's the watch frame neffi |
| 20:43.12 | Neffi | ok Semlar |
| 20:52.10 | Neffi | oh, quite nice. when you reset your phone, Play Store will automatically begin downloading all your apps |
| 20:56.33 | zenzelezz | I hate that |
| 20:56.42 | zenzelezz | "here, let me download 100 apps without asking" |
| 21:03.27 | Neffi | yeah I could see how it could be an issue. but there is a "stop" button for the whole process. |
| 21:03.41 | Neffi | in this case I wanted to download them all, so it saved me time |
| 21:09.27 | zenzelezz | Neffi: I simply prefer when they ask before they do things, even if you can abort it |
| 21:09.37 | zenzelezz | but there's nothing wrong about it |
| 21:28.01 | Neffi | I agree, it really ought to |
| 21:28.28 | Neffi | The decision probably was "don't bombard users with prompts" but in this case it should be one of the pages on the initial setup menu |
| 21:29.50 | Semlar | bombards neffi with prompts |
| 21:30.31 | Fisker | you do get asked when you set it up |
| 21:33.43 | zenzelezz | I never did |
| 21:33.51 | Neffi | I did not get asked on Lollipop just now |
| 21:34.05 | zenzelezz | at least not with any wording that says "yo, I'll download it all" |
| 21:34.08 | Neffi | I just opened the Play Store to start downloading all the stuff again, and saw it was already all underway |
| 21:35.04 | Fisker | Not only do you get asked on lollipop but you can even control what to restore and what not to restore Neffi |
| 21:35.23 | Neffi | I did not see this stuff on this Moto G, Fisker |
| 21:35.32 | Neffi | So either it's not there, or it's definitely non-obvious |
| 21:35.54 | Fisker | Motorola could have removed it |
| 21:36.04 | Fisker | But I doubt it |
| 21:37.32 | Neffi | As do I. Because it's pretty much 100% stock, with minimal bloatware atop it. |
| 21:37.36 | Mr_Rabies | is there really no way to save apps to microsd anymore in android without root access? |
| 21:37.48 | Fisker | I would also assume the agreement doesn't allow removing it |
| 21:37.59 | Neffi | I think there is.... but I don't have a microSD card in here to test |
| 21:38.23 | Mr_Rabies | supposedly it got removed in jelly bean |
| 21:38.30 | Fisker | It did |
| 21:38.59 | Fisker | Google does not wish apps to be on removable storage as it stands today |
| 21:40.41 | Mr_Rabies | i just dont understand that |
| 21:40.47 | Fisker | http://phandroid.com/2014/10/18/hands-on-android-5-0-lollipop-new-apps-and-features-video/ |
| 21:40.55 | Mr_Rabies | i mean i do |
| 21:40.59 | Mr_Rabies | it's an apple-style cash grab |
| 21:41.06 | Fisker | Not really |
| 21:41.22 | Mr_Rabies | forced obsolescence and all that |
| 21:42.12 | Fisker | Google can't enforce filesystem level permissions on it and they don't want to have users have trouble for switching SD cards and what not |
| 21:43.31 | Mr_Rabies | they just want people to buy new devices more often |
| 21:44.33 | Mr_Rabies | they're just making it less and less interesting to use android over iOS |
| 21:44.37 | Fisker | Any arguments to support your position? |
| 21:45.45 | Mr_Rabies | https://www.google.com/finance?cid=304466804484872 |
| 21:46.46 | Fisker | So no |
| 21:47.30 | Mr_Rabies | it's just a growing trend of tech companies following apple's business model |
| 21:48.21 | kd3 | not entirely sure how 'can't put apps on your sd card' -> 'planned obsolescence' |
| 21:48.50 | Fisker | Mr_Rabies wants something to be mad at, so let him |
| 21:49.07 | Mr_Rabies | because literally everyone i know with a phone has had to buy a new one because they ran out of space |
| 21:49.55 | Fisker | If you wanted an actual argument for planned obsolescence then he could've used the lifetime of android updates |
| 21:49.58 | Mr_Rabies | keep the onboard storage low on the affordable models, and either get money out of people by upselling the higher storage models or making them buy another phone sooner |
| 21:50.19 | Mr_Rabies | and make expandable storage nonviable |
| 21:50.23 | Fisker | But I guess the issue with that is that it doesn't fit his paranoia chronologically |
| 21:50.38 | Mr_Rabies | i mean yeah that's definitely part of it too |
| 21:51.32 | Fisker | It's cause and effect not effect and cause Mr_Rabies |
| 21:51.52 | Mr_Rabies | do what |
| 21:53.19 | Mr_Rabies | for me, the ideal phone would have internal storage for the OS and everything else would run off of external storage, removable batteries, standard parts, etc |
| 21:54.14 | Mr_Rabies | i know microsd is probably too slow to run everything else off of but we need to be working on faster external storage as well |
| 21:54.55 | Neffi | Mr_Rabies: I don't think Google gives two shits about you buying devices more often. But they might care about you being pidgeonholed into using cloud storage more often, which they graciously offer. |
| 21:55.46 | Mr_Rabies | are they not getting cash for each android device sold? |
| 21:56.01 | Fisker | No |
| 21:56.08 | Neffi | Probably. But by and large their income as from ads, and by extension data collection. |
| 21:57.22 | Mr_Rabies | i dunno then |
| 21:57.31 | Mr_Rabies | i don't know why they require that level of control over the OS then |
| 21:57.53 | kd3 | rights providers going 'zomg users stealing our shit' |
| 21:58.00 | Mr_Rabies | really the big issue is that no one is including microSD since android barely supports it nowadays |
| 21:58.36 | Fisker | What level of control Mr_Rabies ? |
| 21:58.57 | Mr_Rabies | if i could get a device with removable storage and a removable battery and still use microsd as i saw fit as long as i rooted it i'd be okay |
| 21:58.59 | Neffi | I wouldn't call it a matter of exercising control, but rather a matter of doing what they think is best, whether or not 100% of users agree |
| 21:59.15 | Mr_Rabies | but there aren't any devices newer than like 3 years with microsd storage are there? |
| 21:59.23 | Fisker | OEMs are perfectly allowed to enable SD support |
| 22:00.05 | kd3 | a galaxy s5 has an sd card... my s4 (within that 3-year window) does too |
| 22:00.43 | Fisker | I think even the note 3 has built-in app2sd support |
| 22:02.05 | Mr_Rabies | can you write apps to microSD after rooting it? i imagine so |
| 22:02.14 | Mr_Rabies | not sure about running them, but hopefully? |
| 22:03.07 | Fisker | Maybe with an app you would otherwise need OS-level support |
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| 22:18.04 | Neffi | fuck google drive yo |
| 22:36.41 | znf | Is someone from UK willing to buy me a spotify gift-card for 1 month? I'll paypal you the money :-/ |
| 22:38.57 | kullervo | ... why don't you buy yourself the one month with paypal? |
| 22:39.27 | znf | because it doesn't accept payments from Romania |
| 22:39.44 | znf | neither Paypal accounts tagged as Romanian or Romanian visa cards :-| |
| 22:42.01 | fewyn | https://www.wowthing.org/ |
| 22:42.04 | fewyn | this is pretty cool |
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| 22:44.39 | karl_w_w | http://www.ebay.com/itm/Factory-sealed-1987-Nintendo-NES-Stadium-Events-VGA-85-NM-/111567662630 |
| 22:44.47 | xyphoid | shame they have to use an addon, evething (the eve equivalent) is amazing |
| 22:44.58 | kullervo | wasn't that 120k not long ago? |
| 23:12.19 | karl_w_w | is elite: dangerous good? |
| 23:13.01 | fewyn | supposedly |
| 23:13.09 | fewyn | it's a space game which is cool |
| 23:14.52 | Fisker | That's about it |
| 23:15.25 | fewyn | tbqh i haven't paid attention to it |
| 23:15.29 | fewyn | i'm more into star citizen |
| 23:15.31 | fewyn | which i backed |
| 23:15.35 | zenzelezz | I enjoy it so far, but there's not an awful lot to do yet |
| 23:16.59 | zenzelezz | Star Citizen sounds fun, when it's released in 2030 or so |
| 23:17.30 | fewyn | hey |
| 23:17.34 | fewyn | we can dogfight |
| 23:17.39 | fewyn | and i think fps is coming soon? |
| 23:17.43 | fewyn | also you can race |
| 23:19.02 | Fisker | You can't do space game stuff tough |
| 23:19.05 | Fisker | Though* |
| 23:19.23 | fewyn | that's part of the persistant world which is i think beta for late this year |
| 23:20.11 | zenzelezz | "late this year" sounds so bad shortly after new year |
| 23:20.30 | zenzelezz | but yeah, it will be interesting to see how SC evolves |
| 23:20.39 | fewyn | it's evolving |
| 23:20.41 | fewyn | kinda slow |
| 23:20.47 | fewyn | but they are piecing things out as they are ready |
| 23:20.49 | fewyn | which is nice |
| 23:21.24 | zenzelezz | I don't actually follow it, so I know this is mostly wrong, but I get the impression that what they're mostly doing is selling future ships for real money right now :-D |
| 23:21.43 | fewyn | yeah they have let people continue to back the game post-kickstarter |
| 23:21.48 | Fisker | That seems accurate |
| 23:21.53 | fewyn | you can't buy all the ships right now |
| 23:22.01 | fewyn | like i have a freelancer and an aurora |
| 23:22.11 | fewyn | that i got during the initial funding |
| 23:22.30 | zenzelezz | last time I heard a figure, they had received more in crowd funding that many "normal" games spend |
| 23:22.37 | zenzelezz | *than |
| 23:22.48 | fewyn | i can go and fly my aurora right now in dogfighting mode |
| 23:22.52 | nevcairiel | still not even close to the budget of AAA titles though |
| 23:23.11 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: true |
| 23:23.27 | fewyn | http://www.pcgameshardware.de/screenshots/1280x1024/2014/10/star_citizen_roadmap-pcgh.jpeg |
| 23:23.32 | fewyn | there's the current roadmap in order |
| 23:23.52 | fewyn | arena commander 2.0 is dogfighting but with crewed ships |
| 23:24.05 | fewyn | like the freelancer is supposed to be crewed by several people |
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