| 00:04.41 | zenzelezz | I would say "back in the day the cap was much lower", but IIRC so were the number of quests you'd have at a time |
| 00:05.29 | tz | hmmmm |
| 00:06.15 | tz | using embedded textures inside custom weakauras functions causes the textbox to put a green box in :s |
| 00:06.28 | tz | like, the codes you'd normally use inside a text string |
| 00:06.46 | tz | ....easier if I screenshot |
| 00:09.33 | nevcairiel | just escape it properly |
| 00:09.49 | nevcairiel | the game converts all occurances of that text into icons |
| 00:10.09 | nevcairiel | so make sure its only a icon string in display, not in the code |
| 00:11.38 | tz | http://i.imgur.com/EkrJx9m.jpg = code, http://i.imgur.com/zNdpug7.jpg = options |
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| 00:12.13 | tz | the editbox is parsing the icons even though it shouldn't |
| 00:12.29 | nevcairiel | like i said, the game does that |
| 00:13.06 | tz | mmmmm |
| 00:13.08 | nevcairiel | just use \124T or w hat the | escape code was if you dont want that |
| 00:13.21 | foxlit | bug report against the addon |
| 00:14.32 | foxlit | (should escape this nonsense for you since it throws it into the textbox) |
| 00:15.01 | nevcairiel | maybe he wanted the icon to be shown there?!? :D |
| 00:16.17 | tz | I suppose it doesn't REALLY matter, seems like quite an exceptional case |
| 00:16.24 | tz | \124 does indeed work |
| 00:16.25 | nevcairiel | should probably blame blizzard for doing it in editboxes i guess |
| 00:16.40 | foxlit | but you want escape sequences to work in editboxes. |
| 00:17.53 | nevcairiel | escaping is problematic as you need to unescape when saving the content of the box again, which means you also need to hope the user didnt input the escape sequence manually and expected it to stay like this |
| 00:18.10 | foxlit | but it automatically escapes anything you enter? |
| 00:18.41 | nevcairiel | then how would he ever get something in there that needs escaping by the addon |
| 00:20.05 | foxlit | good question. inconsistent handling of two different edit boxes? |
| 00:20.14 | tz | clearly the second one works fine |
| 00:21.14 | nevcairiel | the second one uses the fancy indent and highlight library, maybe that messes with it |
| 00:45.30 | tz | Stanzilla: I've gone ahead and made another weakauras patch which should address the env table external visibility issue we were talking about yesterday, as well as getting the "%c" custom text functions supported - I'd missed them previously |
| 00:48.27 | nevcairiel | does that patch mean different auras cannot share data anymore? because i can totally see that breaking stuff |
| 00:48.49 | tz | no change to existing functionality - it just adds a specific table which is only available to that aura |
| 00:49.02 | nevcairiel | that seems somewhat pointless |
| 00:49.16 | tz | well it's more for handling duplication of auras so that they don't collide |
| 00:50.04 | tz | it also adds an on-init function which can populate stuff before any custom function is executed |
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| 01:59.49 | Simca | is there an event that is thrown before logout and before reloadUI? I have a timer that runs 30 seconds after ENCOUNTER_END, but if the player exits the game or reloads before it runs... |
| 01:59.52 | Simca | that would screw up my data |
| 02:01.26 | plaw | http://ourobengr.com/2015/01/useless-gate-memeware/ |
| 02:06.04 | Neffi | Simca: PLAYER_LOGOUT, PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD |
| 02:06.29 | Simca | do you know which is fired when and in what order? |
| 02:06.33 | Neffi | I suspect PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD fires for other reasons, so you should use PLAYER_LOGOUT |
| 02:07.13 | Neffi | Both will fire before the Lua state is closed (logout, exit, reload, etc). PLAYER_LOGOUT should fire last |
| 02:07.18 | Neffi | you should use LOGOUT for this |
| 02:07.54 | Simca | alright. i need to make like 30-40 API calls in an event handler response to PLAYER_LOGOUT then, hopefully that is enough time |
| 02:08.07 | Neffi | "Sent when the player logs out or the UI is reloaded, just before SavedVariables are saved" |
| 02:08.09 | Simca | they should be fast calls, no waiting on server or anything, purely local data |
| 02:08.31 | Neffi | why would it matter? |
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| 02:08.49 | Neffi | you have control of the thread while your function is active. the Lua state isn't going to close early on you |
| 02:09.11 | Simca | okay good; i assumed as much but wasn't sure |
| 02:13.32 | Neffi | jesus christ http://i.imgur.com/3e88WV0.gif |
| 02:14.24 | tz | lolwut |
| 02:15.37 | Shirik | so that's not quite as crazy as it looks |
| 02:15.47 | Shirik | but it is amusing |
| 02:16.03 | tz | the ears make it |
| 02:16.05 | Neffi | I think you mean we're all fucked, the dark lord has come |
| 02:16.30 | tz | I think it's backwards though |
| 02:16.48 | tz | the left ear looks like it defies gravity during the rotation |
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| 03:19.57 | Kowh | FWIW I installed Pawn and it's working fine for me, and I've got way too many addons installed. Curse Client says 85. |
| 03:23.08 | kd3 | oh geez. turned one of my monitors to portrait mode. should've done this years ago |
| 03:24.27 | Simca | and got a new monitor stand for it I guess? |
| 03:25.04 | nebula169 | at work i stole a bunch of old 24" dell monitors and rotated them portrait to flank my main screen, love the extra vertical space |
| 03:25.12 | kd3 | actually the one that it shipped with rotates. only now just realized when I nudged it with enough force by accident. >.> |
| 03:34.40 | Primer | I bought 2 27" to flank my existing (billed as) 27" (it's actually 25.5", 1920x1200). Pic of it here: http://ceregatti.org/monitors.jpg |
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| 03:39.15 | Jamash | so guys |
| 03:39.16 | Jamash | GUYS |
| 03:39.26 | kd3 | hm? |
| 03:39.37 | Jamash | I went to a lot of trouble to sort out when to use effective spell ids and when to use global/base spellids |
| 03:39.58 | Thunder_Child | Sounds like a personal problem. |
| 03:40.08 | Jamash | Jab uses the effective ID |
| 03:40.13 | Jamash | Flying Serpent Kick uses the global ID |
| 03:40.18 | Jamash | http://www.asianbite.com/photos/jackie-chan/jackie-chan-images_14807.jpg |
| 03:42.28 | Simca | Jamash: effective ID? global ID? whatcha talkin' about willis |
| 03:44.01 | Gethe | jab previously had different names/descriptions based on the weapon you held |
| 03:44.12 | Gethe | in MoP beta |
| 03:46.00 | Simca | neat, one of my ambiguously-named courses this semester (Computer Organization 1) turned out to be basically "how to assembly 101", which is something I don't know much about |
| 03:46.38 | Gethe | nice |
| 03:47.31 | Jamash | gimme a minute, I'm having trouble sorting out what info the WoW API is giving me from the info my addon is deriving from it |
| 03:48.28 | Kowh | What CPU? I did a course on 68000 asm, quite liked its asm. Got a brief intro to x86 asm as well, 'eff that shit. :D |
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| 03:50.19 | kd3 | blah, m68k assembly |
| 03:50.27 | kd3 | thinks back to his ti-89 in highschool and groans |
| 03:51.10 | Simca | MIPS stuff apparently |
| 03:51.22 | Jamash | ok so if I call GetSpellBookItemInfo() on Jab as a Windwalker, I get "SPELL", 100780 |
| 03:51.49 | Jamash | But if I call GetSpellLink() I get blah blah spell:108557 |
| 03:53.00 | Jamash | This is because Jab is a mighty morphin' power spell that changes spellIDs |
| 03:53.24 | Simca | there are a few of those; the api doesn't support them at all really |
| 03:53.56 | Simca | command demon changes its spell ID every time you change demons iirc |
| 03:54.52 | Kowh | At least WoW exposes IDs. Wildstar only exposed instance IDs. So utterly useless. |
| 03:55.45 | Jamash | If I call GetActionInfo() on an action slot with Jab in it, I get 108557 |
| 03:55.56 | Jamash | this is why I need to know both |
| 03:56.13 | Simca | GetSpellBookItemInfo is a pretty old function i think |
| 03:56.14 | Jamash | since the entire point of my addon is comparing the spellbook with the action bars |
| 03:56.26 | Simca | i wonder if any others give that result |
| 03:56.30 | Jamash | Every function *except* GetSpellLink returns the base ID |
| 03:56.42 | Jamash | I have to parse the link in order to get what I need |
| 03:59.57 | Jamash | but now I'm finding that at some point, I'm not sure when, during UI loading, Flying Serpent Kick has global ID 101545 and effective ID 115057, then later on both are 101545 |
| 04:00.38 | Jamash | it looks like my problem is due to a stale id lookup cache |
| 04:00.48 | Jamash | now I get to figure out when to invalidate that cache |
| 04:00.51 | Jamash | lucky me |
| 04:03.56 | Gethe | 115057 is the land spell while your moving |
| 04:04.29 | Jamash | arghhhhhhhhh |
| 04:04.53 | Jamash | thank you though, that explains it |
| 04:06.18 | Jamash | Yep, that's when it happens. |
| 04:08.42 | Gethe | for jab 108557 is used when you have a staff. to get the base ID you need a fist weapon |
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| 04:09.52 | Gethe | there is a different id for each weapon type |
| 04:19.13 | Jamash | so now I both update the cache if the two are different *and* erase the old cache entry if they are now the same |
| 04:19.25 | Jamash | that might fix it |
| 04:21.51 | Jamash | so that fixes a bug that wasn't causing any visible issues, but I still don't know why it's not finding Jab correctly :/ |
| 04:23.06 | Gethe | Jamash: [22:08:33] <Gethe> for jab 108557 is used when you have a staff. to get the base ID you need a fist weapon |
| 04:23.21 | Jamash | that doesn't matter |
| 04:23.26 | Gethe | oh? |
| 04:24.28 | Simca | 100780 is the real spell. |
| 04:24.35 | Simca | everything else is just a weapon variant: http://www.wowdb.com/search?search=Jab#t1:uncategorized-spells |
| 04:24.42 | Simca | you want to put 100780 on their bars |
| 04:24.46 | Jamash | Yeah, I'm comparing the action bar and the spellbook, they change in sync, so whichever one the GetSpellLink says it is right now is the one that GetActionInfo returns |
| 04:25.29 | Jamash | which is why I had to go through this rigmarole in the first place |
| 04:26.30 | Jamash | I have a staff equipped, so GetActionInfo(73) returns "spell", 108557, "spell" |
| 04:26.56 | Jamash | There's probably a bug in my code somewhere |
| 04:28.49 | Simca | well your statements earlier are inconsistent with your statements now; i didn't want to point it out but if you're looking for a bug, maybe |
| 04:29.03 | Simca | <Jamash> ok so if I call GetSpellBookItemInfo() on Jab as a Windwalker, I get "SPELL", 100780 |
| 04:29.03 | Simca | <Jamash> But if I call GetSpellLink() I get blah blah spell:108557 |
| 04:29.03 | Simca | <Jamash> If I call GetActionInfo() on an action slot with Jab in it, I get 108557 |
| 04:29.17 | Simca | <Jamash> Every function *except* GetSpellLink returns the base ID |
| 04:29.47 | Simca | that's clearly not true, in that case, GetActionInfo() and GetSpellLink() returned the same thing. It was GetSpellBookItemInfo() that was different |
| 04:31.06 | Jamash | Yeah I had a bug, my specid <--> globalid cache was stale |
| 04:31.43 | Jamash | wait what |
| 04:32.14 | Jamash | no that's right, GetActionInfo() and GetSpellLink() match up, GetSpellBookItemInfo() differs |
| 04:32.20 | Simca | your three examples contradict your conclusion |
| 04:32.21 | Simca | yeah |
| 04:32.34 | Jamash | I should clarify, every *spellbook* function except GetSpellLink returns the global id |
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| 04:32.47 | Jamash | GetActionInfo is not a spellbook function :P |
| 04:32.51 | Simca | ah i see |
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| 04:36.29 | Jamash | UPDATE: There was never a bug. I changed Bartender4 from using action bar 1 all the time to using bar 7 for Stance of the Fierce Tiger and bar 8 for Stance of the Sturdy Ox because blizzard keeps putting abilities on them whether I like it or not, and I left some stuff on bar 1 (which should be empty) |
| 04:37.17 | Jamash | in other news, I hate the action bar and spellbook |
| 04:46.27 | Thunder_Child | I'm sure it hates you too. |
| 05:16.57 | Kowh | Ah, that brief period after switching characters in which my questlog isn't tainted. :/ |
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| 09:54.04 | Neffi | So yalb is a Lua bot. He supports every version of Lua since 3.2 (incl 5.3), LuaJIT, C, Python, bc calculator. He's externally sandboxed so the full standard lib is still included, and you can even do limited I/O (read from /dev). |
| 09:54.16 | Neffi | % = 'you interface him like this' |
| 09:54.16 | yalb | Neffi: you interface him like this |
| 09:54.22 | Neffi | %list |
| 09:54.22 | yalb | Neffi: List of sandboxes: Lua: %5.1 %5.3 %3.2 %5.0 %4.0 %5.2 (% = %lua = %5.1) Misc: %golflua %c %py %luajit %bc %LUA |
| 09:54.48 | Neffi | If you want to do something with a long input, he takes pastebin links. For long outputs, double up the % and he will redirect the output to a pastebin |
| 09:55.00 | Neffi | see: http://lua-users.org/wiki/YetAnotherLuaBot |
| 09:55.18 | Neffi | If you've got questions, you can ask me, or you can ask in #lua where he originated and his author is active |
| 09:56.01 | mniip | pastebin links are limited to a few pastebins, excluding github gist because that requires https |
| 09:56.11 | mniip | if you know of an unlisted pastebin contact me and I'll add it |
| 09:56.17 | mikma | why in the bloody hell does my GameTooltip mod show other players as myself |
| 09:56.44 | Neffi | strange. what mod? |
| 09:56.53 | mniip | oh also ignore %LUA, that's out #lua inside meme |
| 09:57.07 | Neffi | or play with it. it's quite insane. |
| 09:57.34 | mikma | https://github.com/MikkoMajuri/miniTip/blob/master/miniTip.lua |
| 09:57.46 | mikma | this only happens when i mouseover members in raidframes/grid2 |
| 09:59.20 | Neffi | hmm. I can't account for that from a quick glance |
| 09:59.34 | Neffi | but this isn't very friendly `GameTooltip:HookScript("OnUpdate", updateTooltip)` ;) |
| 09:59.37 | mniip | Neffi, btw you can also read /usr/include and a few files form /lib |
| 09:59.48 | Neffi | ah, nice to know |
| 10:00.42 | mniip | % =pp(io.open"/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6":read(64)) |
| 10:00.42 | yalb | mniip: "\127ELF\002\001\001\003\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\003\000>\000\001\000\000\000\128U\000\000\000\000\000\000@\000\000\000\000\000\000\0000\"\016\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000@\0008\000\t\000@\000\030\000\029\000" |
| 10:00.50 | mikma | neffi: i can't figure out another way of updating the tooltip with the latest info available (target, etc) |
| 10:01.23 | Neffi | mikma: treat it like a unit frame |
| 10:01.44 | Neffi | that might involve treating mouseover as a whacky unit and firing update events on a timer |
| 10:02.03 | Neffi | I actually had built my own tooltip mod as a proof-of-concept via my unit frame addon, and it worked very well |
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| 10:04.08 | mikma | neffi: ewww, that requires tons of recoding |
| 10:04.25 | Neffi | yeah you can't really fit elegant/efficient stuff within the space of a gist |
| 10:05.12 | Neffi | well, I'll be back in a few. i'll take another look at your code then to try and figure this out |
| 10:05.42 | mikma | what i understood, the GameTooltip:HookScript("OnTooltipSetUnit", updateTooltip) should do the trick, but no |
| 10:19.55 | Neffi | I think I may have solved it, mikma |
| 10:20.31 | Neffi | theoretically when your cursor is over a unit frame, the mouseover unit should be == uf:GetAttribute('unit'); but that might be invalidated for some reason. maybe grid is doing clever attribute fuckery. |
| 10:21.04 | Neffi | the proper way to do this if you want to be lazy and hook :OnTooltipSetUnit() would be to use the unitid passed to the function |
| 10:21.15 | Neffi | don't assume the gametooltip is populated with the mouseover unit |
| 10:22.06 | Neffi | with this approach, ideally, on OnTooltipSetUnit, you set the internal `unit` property, then :Show() yourself, and your OnUpdate handles the updating, so you can be lazy but still get realtime stuff |
| 10:23.05 | Neffi | but the issue is, GameTooltip may be populated differently at any time without a subsequent :Hide(). if code calls :SetUnit('player') followed by :SetAura(whatever), your custom tooltip will be showing the wrong contents, because they didn't call a subsequent :Hide() to invoke your clear-tooltip routines |
| 10:23.54 | Trucidare | By any chance, does toc sometimes ignore load order? |
| 10:24.01 | Neffi | On one side of the coin it's easier to not have to redecorate the GameTooltip object and just create your own separate object, but on the other side it's kind of a bitch and you're best off just using GameTooltip |
| 10:24.11 | Neffi | Trucidare: what do you mean by load order? |
| 10:24.17 | Neffi | what's your actual problem? |
| 10:25.07 | Trucidare | Nothing really, I just noticed I got a list of files on my toc, and I'm pretty sure the xml seems to be loading first |
| 10:25.45 | Neffi | mikma: consider that your custom tooltip will basically not work most of the time for custom contents. eg, code populates the tooltip itself. or they're populating it with something other than a unit |
| 10:26.07 | Trucidare | I placed <Script file=""> on top of the xml to avoid this, and it works fine now though |
| 10:26.15 | Neffi | pastebin your toc |
| 10:26.26 | Neffi | the files should be loaded in top-to-bottom order, afaik |
| 10:26.35 | Trucidare | yeah |
| 10:26.53 | Trucidare | I placed the ones that were supposed to be loaded first on top of my xml instead and it works fine now |
| 10:27.03 | Neffi | <Include> and <Script> are parsed immediately. that is, an <Include> or <Script> anywhere in an XML file should cause it to be loaded at that point, before the rest of the XML file |
| 10:27.19 | Neffi | at least, I'm like 80% sure of that part |
| 10:27.58 | Trucidare | yeah, my XML relied on addon variables in another lua file, so I put the <script> tags on top of the xml |
| 10:28.12 | Trucidare | but putting those files on top of my toc didn't seem to work |
| 10:28.31 | Trucidare | it's working now, I was just curious |
| 10:40.57 | mikma | neffi: bleh. i'm again || that close to abandon this horrible addon :D |
| 10:42.11 | Trucidare | Meh, nevermind. My debugger was giving me silent errors |
| 10:42.24 | mikma | neffi: remember, this same thing happens with the blizz builtin raid/partyframes. when i mouseover myself and mouseover the char next to my unitframe i can see my name and raceicon |
| 10:43.50 | Trucidare | How does one use an addons savedvariables inside an XML with <OnLoad>/<OnValueChanged> scripts? It's coming up as nil. I currently run my events on the ADDON_LOADED event in lua |
| 10:44.32 | Semlar | you know GameTooltip has a GetUnit method right |
| 10:44.41 | nevcairiel | ADDON_LOADED should have the SVs available already |
| 10:44.59 | nevcairiel | OnLoad scripts wouldn't, as they run way too early |
| 10:45.07 | Trucidare | Yeah, that's my problem |
| 10:45.54 | Trucidare | You're not able to load an xml file on addon_loaded, right? |
| 10:46.01 | nevcairiel | no. |
| 10:46.56 | nevcairiel | you could make the frame a template and instantiate it from Lua in addon_loaded, but that sounds like a bad design made worse :D |
| 10:47.19 | Semlar | don't put lua in your xml? |
| 10:57.14 | mikma | trucidare: is there any particular reason for this .xml? |
| 10:57.36 | Trucidare | Nah, no reason |
| 10:58.35 | Trucidare | Just wondered if I could use savedvariables on <OnLoaded>, because at the moment I'm just assigning them on the ADDON_LOADED event |
| 10:59.40 | Mr_Rabies | Semlar, did you ever get pawn working? |
| 11:00.28 | karl_w_w | pawn has always worked for Semlar |
| 11:08.10 | karl_w_w | 6% of players bothered with southshore v tarren mill |
| 11:08.21 | karl_w_w | dev time worth investing |
| 11:08.48 | nevcairiel | i wonder how much time that really took, its not like it was a zone they needed to build |
| 11:08.49 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think many players even really knew it existed |
| 11:09.01 | Mr_Rabies | and yeah that, too |
| 11:09.29 | Mr_Rabies | basically just clip it out, setup spawn rules and throw a couple bg-style spirit healers in |
| 11:09.37 | Mr_Rabies | one person could probably do it in a day or two |
| 11:12.25 | Mr_Rabies | no new models, just basically get it setup as a bg, scale up guard npcs, create fogzone to keep people from wandering too far |
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| 11:36.19 | Neffi | % local f=assert(io.open('foo','w')); f:write('the bot now has sandboxed I/O access'); |
| 11:36.20 | yalb | Neffi: |
| 11:36.29 | Neffi | % f=io.open('foo','r'); print(f:read('*a')); print('and it's cross-session') |
| 11:36.29 | yalb | Neffi: sandbox:1: ')' expected near 's' |
| 11:36.36 | Neffi | % f=io.open('foo','r'); print(f:read('*a')); print('and it\'s cross-session') |
| 11:36.36 | yalb | Neffi: the bot now has sandboxed I/O access; and it's cross-session |
| 11:36.42 | Neffi | %cleanup |
| 11:36.42 | yalb | Neffi: Done |
| 11:36.50 | Neffi | to wipe the directory. it's size-limited |
| 11:37.18 | Neffi | if you manage to break the sandbox, please notify mniip |
| 11:38.03 | mniip | (per Neffi's request) |
| 11:38.29 | Neffi | :D |
| 11:38.49 | mniip | (I'm not usually taking requests) |
| 11:40.16 | mniip | % f=io.open('foo','w')while assert(f:write((" "):rep(1024)))do end |
| 11:40.17 | yalb | mniip: sandbox:1: No space left on device; stack traceback:; [C]: in function 'assert'; sandbox:1: in main chunk |
| 11:41.35 | mniip | % =io.open('foo'):seek"end" |
| 11:41.35 | yalb | mniip: 55915520 |
| 11:41.42 | mniip | %cleanup |
| 11:41.42 | yalb | mniip: Done |
| 11:42.11 | mniip | 64 mib minux ext3 overhead |
| 11:42.16 | mniip | mius |
| 11:42.17 | mniip | minux |
| 11:42.20 | mniip | xD |
| 11:42.21 | mniip | inus* |
| 11:42.25 | mniip | man I can't spell |
| 11:42.34 | mniip | m i n u s |
| 11:42.59 | Neffi | not ext4? :P |
| 11:43.09 | mniip | too much bloat |
| 11:43.29 | mikma | why are we coding in the irc? |
| 11:43.49 | Neffi | so we can test things, demonstrate things when asked or to help new coders, etc |
| 11:44.08 | mikma | so, demonstrate |
| 11:44.13 | Neffi | same reason we always had lua_bot (even though he likes to vanish for weeks at a time), only this bot's better |
| 11:44.40 | mniip | weeks? wasn't he gone since 2013 until a few weeks ago |
| 11:44.50 | Neffi | has it been that long? maybe |
| 11:45.04 | mikma | doesn't purl have some sort of seen scriot |
| 11:45.21 | Neffi | ~seen lua_bot |
| 11:45.23 | purl | lua_bot <~lua_bot@li37-84.members.linode.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 159d 10h 20m 28s ago, saying: 'UnitAura: Returns information about buffs/debuffs on a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitAura)'. |
| 11:45.37 | Neffi | lua_bot_'s here now, but luckily he butchered his name |
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| 11:48.28 | mikma | so i was bored. and ordered myself a keychain universal tv remove control |
| 11:48.35 | mniip | oh yeah yalb also has %? but that only includes lua docs |
| 11:48.45 | mniip | nothing related to wow whatsoever |
| 11:50.01 | Neffi | mikma: program it to your neighbor's TV ;) |
| 11:50.02 | tz | is it 5.2? shouldn't we have a 5.1 in here? |
| 11:50.09 | mikma | neffi: doable :D |
| 11:50.10 | Neffi | 5.1 default I think |
| 11:50.16 | tz | ok |
| 11:50.19 | Neffi | % = _VERSION |
| 11:50.19 | yalb | Neffi: Lua 5.1 |
| 11:50.22 | Neffi | %? math.sin |
| 11:50.22 | yalb | Neffi: http://lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-math.sin |
| 11:50.27 | tz | cool cool |
| 11:51.05 | mniip | %?5.2 lua_close |
| 11:51.05 | yalb | mniip: http://lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#lua_close |
| 11:51.25 | Neffi | mniip tends to think of everything <_< |
| 11:51.54 | mniip | also tz, yalb supports a wide variety of lua versions |
| 11:52.00 | tz | like what I should have for dinner tomorrow?! |
| 11:52.00 | mikma | neffi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdkXXCUpUCk |
| 11:52.14 | mniip | the only reason it doesn't include 2.0 and 1.0 is because I couldn't compile those in a sandboxey way |
| 11:52.49 | tz | fair enough |
| 11:52.51 | tz | bed time! |
| 11:52.54 | tz | night folks |
| 11:55.41 | Neffi | I could mess with so many people, mikma |
| 11:56.04 | Neffi | go into a sports bar and start changing channels, turning off TVs |
| 11:56.27 | mikma | neffi: why do you think i bought that, huh? it was 3.96e (that includes postal) |
| 11:56.41 | Neffi | hehe |
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| 13:39.26 | Neffi | psa: don't drink monster, it will bring about the end times http://youtu.be/bntfUA6TmLs |
| 13:44.14 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrfliY6ylOI |
| 13:44.28 | mikma | the music is quite fitting |
| 13:46.31 | Neffi | o.o |
| 13:50.10 | mitch0 | Neffi: ...? (the monster thing) |
| 13:51.06 | Neffi | did you watch the video? |
| 13:51.25 | mitch0 | yes |
| 13:51.32 | mitch0 | that woman has issues |
| 13:51.35 | Neffi | I don't think there's anything more to say |
| 13:51.49 | Neffi | not as many issues as this guy http://youtu.be/48tdL3Assn0 |
| 13:51.58 | Neffi | "Danny DeVito is the Antichrist in "Steal My Girl"" |
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| 13:53.03 | mikma | neffi: now i want some milf 666 monster |
| 13:53.19 | Neffi | unleash the beast, mikma |
| 13:53.36 | mikma | mikma angry, now i have green penis. |
| 13:53.56 | Neffi | lol |
| 13:53.58 | mikma | whoops, nvm. it just fell of |
| 13:56.03 | mikma | neffi: talking about the GameTooltips again, I recreated the whole tooltip with lua (createframe -> textures) and it was ok, but showing it and hiding it was problematic |
| 13:56.32 | mikma | neffi: because i didn't get it to work, i abandoned the code. but i did save it |
| 13:59.09 | Neffi | what were you trying to achieve? |
| 13:59.23 | mikma | completely custom tooltip without errors... loooolz. |
| 13:59.36 | mikma | but i came into conclusion that i hate tooltips |
| 13:59.51 | Neffi | yes so did I |
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| 14:00.16 | Neffi | that's why I eventually settled on just using TipTac instead of writing my own |
| 14:00.33 | mikma | and that's the reason why i use freebtip |
| 14:00.41 | Neffi | the only thing I hate working with more in framexml than tooltips is the chat frame |
| 14:00.51 | Neffi | I will never again touch the chat frame or anything close to it with code |
| 14:00.53 | mikma | but i made a mistake and released this so i might need to either abandon it completely or fix it |
| 14:01.36 | mikma | ewwww. chatframe :I |
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| 14:07.29 | mniip | so is this what it looks like when I talk about being unable to graycolor the asynchronous coroutines at GC init step in #lua |
| 14:12.24 | Fisker | hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 14:12.42 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Fiskerboo. I found the winter that had been previously "missing" from my life. |
| 14:12.54 | mitch0 | moved to .ca? |
| 14:13.48 | Neffi | mniip: no I actually understood your GC ramblings a bit ;) |
| 14:14.27 | Neffi | you never did tell me why your threading design failed, mniip |
| 14:14.38 | Lopeppeppy | I don't live all that far from Canada, actually, only 4 hours. But I think Cairenn sent some Canada to me for a surprise new year present. :) |
| 14:14.43 | mniip | see the lua mailing list |
| 14:14.56 | mniip | a bunch of stuff was wronger than wrong |
| 14:14.57 | Neffi | I tend to avoid it. Got a link to the thread? |
| 14:15.22 | mniip | http://lua.2524044.n2.nabble.com/PATCH-Proposal-asynchronous-coroutines-and-multithreading-td7664892.html |
| 14:15.34 | Neffi | cool stuff. reading now |
| 14:18.09 | mniip | I'm still kind of wondering what would happen if I place a mutex on every GCObject |
| 14:19.25 | mniip | but that requires completely reading and understanding 2 most awful files ever |
| 14:19.29 | mniip | lgc.c and ltable.c |
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| 14:45.06 | karl_w_w | http://jalopnik.com/this-is-the-video-cnn-will-play-when-the-world-ends-1677511538 |
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| 14:59.14 | Ayrshire | Is there a favoured way to add stuff to Blizz tooltips, i.e. if I use LibExtraTip will I later regret it? |
| 15:02.24 | Neffi | The normal API works |
| 15:03.05 | Neffi | :AddLine(), AddDoubleLine(), etc. You can also check out LibQTip |
| 15:03.31 | Neffi | iirc LibExtraTip adds info via a separate tooltip attached underneath the normal tooltip -- see Auctionator's tooltip data |
| 15:03.46 | Neffi | LibQTip, afaik, exposes an alternative to GameTooltip that's more powerful |
| 15:04.10 | Neffi | GameTooltip along with the normal API is fine for most use cases. It really depends on what you're looking to do |
| 15:04.23 | mikma | ayrshire: well basicly, GameTooltip:AddLine("my text"); GameTooltip:Show() .. that's it |
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| 15:05.03 | Ayrshire | I want to add a line to the tooltip for some mobs |
| 15:05.25 | nevcairiel | then your best bet is to not use any lib and just hook into the existing tooltip and add the lines there |
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| 15:06.07 | Ayrshire | Okay, thanks. |
| 15:06.33 | Neffi | yes. the libs are for much more advanced things, like adding a large wealth of information with advanced formatting, multi-column, etc |
| 15:07.08 | Ayrshire | I'm use to Wildstar's api, where the libs are for packaging all the workarounds you need. :D |
| 15:08.25 | mikma | ayrshire: you can also do it like i said, without libs ^^ |
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| 15:12.28 | mikma | ayrshire: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14430-DeathNote.html <- i made that ages ago, don't know does it still work |
| 15:14.17 | Ressy | whoa |
| 15:14.25 | Ressy | re-enabling the wow anniversary for another week. |
| 15:14.54 | nevcairiel | why do people care about that so much |
| 15:15.02 | mikma | minipet |
| 15:15.05 | Ressy | ^ |
| 15:15.16 | Ressy | 5 times I did MC, 5 times I got the damned crown of power & nothing else |
| 15:15.44 | nevcairiel | the head piece is guaranteed, so dont be too surprised you get it :p |
| 15:16.22 | Ressy | I'd rather nothing than seeing that every time tbh. |
| 15:16.57 | Neffi | this always messes me up |
| 15:17.15 | Neffi | Google claims to get its weather data from weather.com, but always shows markedly different information |
| 15:17.31 | Neffi | like snow not stopping until 8 pm vs snow stopping at 11 am |
| 15:18.10 | Maldivia | timezone? EST vs PST? |
| 15:18.28 | nevcairiel | 8pm and 11am are quite distant, even with timezones |
| 15:18.32 | Neffi | EST |
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| 15:18.57 | Maldivia | ohh, read pm both places :) |
| 15:19.10 | Neffi | I'm searching the same zip code. Google claims it's getting the same data as weather.com is giving me, but always grossly overestimates precip. information, and is usually quite different than what weather.com says all around |
| 15:19.27 | Neffi | so either it's lying about getting the data from weather.com or some weird stuff is going on |
| 15:19.33 | Ayrshire | Yeah, I want Tiny, but it's painful to run MC over and over to get it. |
| 15:20.18 | Ayrshire | Each run takes so much time |
| 15:20.40 | Maldivia | Neffi: or perhaps the data weather.com sells to google is older ? |
| 15:20.55 | Ayrshire | At least it's mostly runs with fellow farmers, so it's less of a clusterfuck than when it was new. |
| 15:20.59 | Neffi | I assumed it was a publicly available feed. I hadn't taken that into account. |
| 15:23.14 | Neffi | Meh I left feedback. Google has had a trend of poor weather data pretty much since it started offering the weather data. At least for my area. Hopefully it'll improve. |
| 15:23.37 | nevcairiel | weather data is poor no matter its source, its part of the concept |
| 15:24.20 | Neffi | I understand the drawbacks and uncertainty involved. Google's data just tends to be particularly far off the mark. |
| 15:24.38 | Neffi | weather.com usually lines up about as well as you can expect out of a forecast |
| 15:35.06 | kullervo | Ayrshire: would be faster I guess if you went there with say... 4 tanks of your own guild |
| 15:37.39 | Ayrshire | If you hated your tanks I guess. :D |
| 15:38.39 | Ayrshire | "Hi, come help do boring but tricky content for 2-3 hours, for likely no reward!" |
| 15:39.32 | Ayrshire | Well, s/tricky/unforgiving/ |
| 15:43.57 | Shirik | headline: Doomed AirAsia flight lacked all the required permits |
| 15:44.06 | Shirik | Text: ...even though it did not have all the required permits from regulators to fly that day... |
| 15:44.16 | Shirik | f you do not know the difference between these two statements YOU SHOULD NOT BE WRITING NEWS ARTICLES |
| 15:46.07 | foxlit | page views > your opinion, Shirik. |
| 15:46.14 | pompy | This mission doe |
| 15:46.22 | pompy | gunna be delayed for an eternity |
| 15:46.23 | pompy | http://new.livestream.com/spacex/events/3665355/statuses/73057589 |
| 15:47.27 | Shirik | you think you have it bad |
| 15:47.47 | Shirik | think about the people that had to get up for this launch, sit there for hours, and then do it all for nothing |
| 15:47.58 | Shirik | I've been on that side of the fence. It's not fun. |
| 15:48.01 | pompy | yup |
| 15:48.02 | pompy | >< |
| 15:48.12 | Torhal | mistakes pompy for a doe, and sends a buck after him. |
| 15:48.20 | pompy | ~lart Torhal |
| 15:48.20 | purl | nabs the moon and broadsides Torhal with the sea of tranquility |
| 15:48.24 | pompy | lol |
| 15:48.44 | pompy | Space related, i like it purl |
| 15:49.02 | pompy | :O |
| 15:49.36 | pompy | Shirik: and they had a 90% favorable weather condition too. |
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| 16:11.52 | Neffi | good job, Creative |
| 16:12.04 | Neffi | the included bracket is too big. how does this get past QA? |
| 16:13.06 | nevcairiel | creative doesnt do QA |
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| 16:14.40 | Neffi | I see that |
| 16:15.21 | Neffi | good thing it's only a stabilizing bracket |
| 16:39.57 | pompy | http://mashable.com/2015/01/06/game-of-thrones-imax/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link |
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| 17:52.43 | jleclanche | Is "times" in a mathematical context plural or singular? as in, "Those three times less than normal are odd" or "That three times less than normal is odd"? |
| 17:53.27 | karl_w_w | it depends on the context jleclanche, and that example sentence makes no sense so I can't tell you :P |
| 17:54.23 | jleclanche | meh |
| 17:55.09 | foxlit | it's not a noun. |
| 17:56.13 | foxlit | and therefore shouldn't be acting as the subject of a sentence. |
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| 18:17.56 | Ayrshire | "Three times less than normal is odd" is plausible with context |
| 18:20.53 | Simca | it is a sentence fragment though, not a sentence |
| 18:23.14 | Ayrshire | Yeah. Plausible in casual conversation in response to something. |
| 18:24.04 | Ayrshire | There's an implied subject |
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| 18:26.47 | foxlit | Ayrshire: if you insert enough implicit plumbing to salvage that trainwreck, the original question goes away because you'll then have a proper subject for subject/verb agreement. |
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| 18:27.47 | Ayrshire | Make it all implicit, say nothing. :D |
| 18:28.22 | Ayrshire | Or better, wiggle your eyebrows to make it implicitly explicit. |
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| 18:47.55 | Neffi | Made a whole $10 today. yeeaaaahhh |
| 18:55.15 | Torhal | Neffi: WAT |
| 19:00.45 | Neffi | I know, ballin' |
| 19:00.49 | Neffi | dolla dolla bills yall |
| 19:02.23 | Unkle | Neffi makin' money, see? Neffi gettin' honeys, see? |
| 19:05.20 | Ressy | I don't think so. |
| 19:05.33 | Ressy | Hai Unkle! :D |
| 19:05.46 | Neffi | no it's true. i might some purchase some honey with this money I have |
| 19:06.38 | Unkle | Hi Ressy. Did you discover the culprit in the Case of the Nefarious Dryer Opener? |
| 19:06.44 | Torhal | Wow, Ressy. Did you just put Neffi down? |
| 19:06.57 | Torhal | Poor Neffi. |
| 19:06.57 | Ressy | Unkle: No. |
| 19:07.11 | Neffi | Ressy is mean D: |
| 19:07.15 | Neffi | makeded me cries |
| 19:07.18 | Ressy | :( |
| 19:07.41 | Ressy | waiting on my money from Curse. Curse says fulfilled, paypal says "no money for you!" |
| 19:07.55 | Unkle | Paypal are fuckers. |
| 19:08.20 | Ressy | last time I checked out, I had the money 4 days before it popped up as fulfilled. |
| 19:09.16 | Ressy | I need that money to pay off my credit card.. I had to order new computer parts earlier than expected due to my motherboard dying. |
| 19:09.23 | Ressy | it all went on my credit card, which is very unhappy |
| 19:09.45 | Fisker | :< |
| 19:10.32 | Unkle | I like to be all cash and carry. Usually this means I delay large purchases because I have to pile up the cash first. |
| 19:11.11 | Ressy | Thats what I was planning.. And then my motherboard dying sorta threw that plan out the window. |
| 19:11.55 | Ressy | I haven't turned my computer off since December 24th.. When I got home and turned it on, and fought with it for 3 hours just to boot. |
| 19:12.09 | Fisker | Meanie |
| 19:12.20 | Fisker | Fighting with your computer |
| 19:12.35 | Ressy | no.. its mean to me.. wiped out my oc.. so I'm stuck atm at 2.4ghz. |
| 19:12.43 | Ressy | not risking a reboot. |
| 19:13.26 | Disco | is there a function to get the power cost of a spell? |
| 19:13.31 | Disco | i can't find it on wowprogramming |
| 19:14.27 | pompy | Ressy: so it's not really dead? |
| 19:14.51 | Ressy | its failing. |
| 19:15.10 | pompy | what board you replacing it with? |
| 19:15.39 | Ressy | I was replacing everything anyways in 6 months, so I'm upgrading from a Q6600, to an i5 4790k |
| 19:15.57 | Ressy | blech |
| 19:15.58 | Ressy | i7 |
| 19:16.02 | Ressy | my fingers today |
| 19:16.53 | Fisker | Q6600 Ressy |
| 19:16.57 | Fisker | Classic |
| 19:17.07 | Ressy | yup |
| 19:17.13 | Ressy | was oc'd to 3.0 |
| 19:17.20 | Ressy | but, no oc atm cuz its just not happy |
| 19:18.56 | Ressy | was gonna get the i5 4670k, but the i7 was just so on sale.... :) |
| 19:19.16 | Fisker | Nice |
| 19:19.33 | Ressy | was like $100 off or something silly like that. |
| 19:20.22 | Fisker | That's a lot |
| 19:20.39 | Ressy | everything ordered dec 31, still waiting on trackign info.. Figured the board's still limping along, I don't need to spend $100 in overnight shipping, when I need to wait 5-6 days for the cpu cooler to even come in before it'll ship. |
| 19:24.01 | pompy | sends remote shutdown command to Ressy's computer |
| 19:26.58 | Ressy | http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/F8bqVn |
| 19:28.24 | pompy | 760W, didnt know they have them in an odd number too |
| 19:28.39 | Ressy | I've got a 720 right now... |
| 19:29.00 | Fisker | That number is even |
| 19:29.18 | pompy | you know what i mean Fisker |
| 19:29.27 | Ressy | but its from like 8 yrs ago.. one of the earlier full modular psus |
| 19:29.50 | Fisker | I guess |
| 19:29.53 | Ressy | really hard plastic sleeves on the cables. to bend'em requires a hair dryer.. totally shitty |
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| 19:37.55 | nebula169 | sounds awesome from a channeling standpoint |
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| 19:44.14 | fewyn | i failed a 90% highmaul raid mission :( |
| 19:44.52 | Ressy | Sweet. Curse cash is in paypal now. |
| 19:45.17 | VIad | http://imgur.com/6IFLWgl |
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| 20:09.27 | zenzelezz | well hello there miss peppy |
| 20:09.56 | Cairenn | smoogles Lopeppeppy |
| 20:10.09 | Cairenn | Sorry about sending the crappy weather down |
| 20:15.28 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, zenzelezz! Long time no snorgle! |
| 20:15.59 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, you're totally forgiven, your cup brimmeth over with winter this time of year. Have you seen "Galavant", a total hoot! |
| 20:16.06 | zenzelezz | indeed. Been hectic at work for a while |
| 20:16.25 | Cairenn | Haven't seen it, nope. Good, is it? |
| 20:16.34 | zenzelezz | sister in law got me this for christmas though, quite a good read: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Guys-Can-Cat-Ladies-Too/dp/141970690X/ref=sr_1_1 |
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| 20:16.48 | Lopeppeppy | Black Adder, the Musical. |
| 20:17.39 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, I highly recommend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHXBL6bzAR4 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsl_auoGuy4 - Engineers Guide to Cats. |
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| 20:20.23 | Unkle | Cats are good with a little ginger and lots of simmering. |
| 20:21.14 | Lopeppeppy | Unkle, you are a bad, bad man. |
| 20:28.04 | Ressy | no hes not :( |
| 20:28.33 | Ressy | hes a very nice man! |
| 20:29.24 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't say he wasn't nice. |
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| 20:31.58 | Ayrshire | Of course men can be crazy cat ladies too. http://www.wowhead.com/achievement=8397 comes in both genders. |
| 20:32.48 | Torhal | Being a man with 11 cats, Ayrshire, I must agree. |
| 20:33.13 | Ayrshire | One is enough for me. :D |
| 20:33.23 | Torhal | Had two in August. |
| 20:33.35 | Torhal | Found an emaciated stray outside the house. She had 4 kittens in my garage. |
| 20:33.41 | Torhal | Just had 4 more. |
| 20:33.43 | Torhal | Yay. |
| 20:33.43 | A-KO|phone | Nice |
| 20:33.47 | A-KO|phone | I love cats |
| 20:35.23 | Ayrshire | In fact, mine is washing my hair right now. |
| 20:36.13 | Unkle | Ressy, Lopeppeppy is right. I'm a terrible, evil, wicked, bad, bad man. |
| 20:36.27 | Unkle | Leroy Brown got nothing on me. |
| 20:36.36 | Lopeppeppy | And I totally still love him, junkyard dog side and all. |
| 20:37.02 | Lopeppeppy | 4 more kittens? Spay that pretty kitty! |
| 20:37.22 | Ressy | o.O |
| 20:37.51 | Ressy | can't convince me of that Unkle |
| 20:37.56 | Unkle | Learning an irc-like /command driven chat interface for work. And a two new authoring tools. My brain feels full. |
| 20:38.35 | Torhal | Unkle: OS2/Warp, man. |
| 20:38.35 | Unkle | Ressy: I was on my best behavior at BlizzCon. |
| 20:38.40 | Unkle | Torhal: I will CUT you. |
| 20:38.49 | Torhal | You mean you were missing for most of the after-con activities. |
| 20:39.17 | Unkle | Torhal: I was visiting friends who live in LA and I was exhausted. |
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| 20:39.31 | Torhal | Or somehow managing to fall asleep on my couch with the extra high arms. |
| 20:39.41 | Ressy | waayyyy too much drinking. >.< |
| 20:40.02 | Unkle | Torhal: cf: Exhausted. |
| 20:40.18 | Torhal | :/ |
| 20:41.11 | Unkle | I bought BlizzCon tix and made all my plans when things were going well. Then 2 months before, my previous employer and I parted ways. By the time BlizzCon rolled around I was stressing pretty hard. |
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| 20:42.37 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 20:42.38 | Lopeppeppy | Someday I will come back to california! It will be epic! |
| 20:43.15 | Unkle | Yes. You must visit. |
| 20:43.32 | Lopeppeppy | It would be visiting LA for a work conference, so I think that's still way too far away from you. :( |
| 20:43.44 | Fisker | http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/01/06/blue-maestro-introduces-pacif-bluetooth-enabled-smart-pacifier-pre-orders-going-40/ |
| 20:44.17 | Fisker | You should get into h hearthstone so you can go to blizzcon Lopeppeppy |
| 20:44.43 | Lopeppeppy | ... That's just... I can't even, a bluetooth thermometer. |
| 20:46.08 | Ressy | have you seen the price of digital thermometers? they're usually $80-90. Pacifier one with features sounds good.. if your child is that young anyways |
| 20:47.52 | A-KO|toilet | Lol |
| 20:48.32 | Neffi | ~framexml |
| 20:48.32 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml. ExportInterfaceFiles art in the console |
| 20:51.32 | Fisker | maybe Lopeppeppy |
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| 21:01.38 | kullervo | hrhmh there are no addons or anything at all to track the amount of purified stagger |
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| 21:13.47 | Primer | foxlit: Can you not detect the amount of XP in the bonus section? |
| 21:14.06 | Primer | foxlit: I mean, when sorting by follower experience...the bonus XP isn't included |
| 21:16.11 | foxlit | that seems unlikely. |
| 21:18.19 | Primer | It's what's happening |
| 21:18.43 | foxlit | hm? |
| 21:18.52 | Primer | I always have to scroll down and look for missions with lots of bonus XP and pick those first |
| 21:19.18 | foxlit | screenshot something? |
| 21:19.25 | Semlar | are you sure, because master plan calculates the diminished experience |
| 21:19.29 | Primer | Too late, I already sent them out |
| 21:19.51 | Semlar | and probably factors in the success chance |
| 21:19.57 | Primer | Not sure what you mean by "diminished experience" |
| 21:20.02 | Primer | They were all 100% |
| 21:20.29 | Semlar | if your follower is even one level under the mission it gets a lot less experience |
| 21:20.31 | Primer | Top mission, when sorted by "follower experience", would have yielded about 2.5k total |
| 21:20.57 | Primer | About 5 missions down was one with 12k bonus experience |
| 21:21.10 | Primer | I sent 2 100s and a 98 on that |
| 21:21.17 | Semlar | the addon shows how much a follower will get when you hover over it in the mission screen |
| 21:21.46 | Primer | So you're saying the 98 will not get 12k for that one? |
| 21:21.52 | Primer | plus whatever else was the base |
| 21:21.58 | Semlar | a 98 on a level 100 mission will get almost no experience |
| 21:22.03 | Primer | wtf |
| 21:22.09 | Primer | That makes no sense |
| 21:22.10 | Ayrshire | 10% or somesuch |
| 21:22.25 | Semlar | if it's 1 level under the mission it gets HALF the experience |
| 21:22.27 | Ayrshire | It's so you have to level them up |
| 21:22.42 | Primer | And they expect people without the addon to know this? |
| 21:22.57 | Semlar | you're just supposed to know, apparently |
| 21:22.59 | Ayrshire | If their level is orange that's the 50%, red is 10% |
| 21:23.02 | Unkle | It's not clear even in the base ui. Still needs work. |
| 21:23.09 | foxlit | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/12808391015 |
| 21:23.09 | Primer | And people with the addon to eventually figure it out by talking on IRC? |
| 21:23.23 | Unkle | I had to read WoWWiki and WoWHead to wrap my head around it. |
| 21:23.35 | Semlar | no, if you have the addon and hover over the followers it shows exactly how much experience they'll get |
| 21:24.02 | Semlar | there's a bar for base and a bar for bonus |
| 21:24.05 | Ayrshire | I figured out early on that orange and red levels were bad, just didn't know by how much until I looked it up. |
| 21:24.32 | Unkle | Yeah, Ayrshire. |
| 21:25.02 | Ayrshire | Was way more aggressive than I had thought |
| 21:26.08 | Semlar | it used to be that followers 3 levels under a mission would get zero experience |
| 21:26.19 | Unkle | Still, it doesn't take all that long before the followers are all leveled up. my roster of 25 actives on my main are all maxxed out level-wise and now just await gear upgrades. |
| 21:26.21 | Semlar | they hotfixed that to be 10% |
| 21:26.48 | Ayrshire | I still throw followers at the 10% on occasion. A 3 man 100 with a giant bonus is still worth it with two 100s and a low level. |
| 21:27.14 | Semlar | i just do whatever master plan tells me |
| 21:27.24 | Ayrshire | Pretty much. :D |
| 21:28.05 | Ayrshire | foxlit: You should slip in a mission to send gold to foxlit, and sort it to the top of the list. ;) |
| 21:29.22 | Semlar | if that's what master plan thinks is best.. |
| 21:30.00 | Ayrshire | Maybe for apr 1. And call the mission "Jump off a bridge" or somesuch. |
| 21:30.47 | Torhal | Software doesn't think, Semlar. |
| 21:30.55 | Torhal | Oh, wait - Shirik is AI. |
| 21:31.14 | Fisker | Shirik is a person |
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| 21:45.30 | Jamash | AIs can be people |
| 21:46.19 | karl_w_w | anybody can be people if they put their minds to it |
| 21:46.37 | foxlit | gr, I should hit 100 on this alt |
| 21:46.50 | foxlit | inventory is filled with garrison tokens that require level 100 to activate. |
| 21:47.35 | Jamash | inorite |
| 21:47.59 | Jamash | it's as bad as being level 8* and having inventory full of timeless isle tokens |
| 21:48.44 | foxlit | somewhat annoyingly, most XP-awarding missions are low-level. |
| 21:49.02 | foxlit | so you naturally lose them as followers hit 100. |
| 21:49.13 | Jamash | solution: inn |
| 21:50.03 | Jamash | I'm working on slowly recruiting every follower with Epic Mount |
| 21:50.15 | fewyn | i do scavenger |
| 21:50.28 | Jamash | also a compelling choice |
| 21:50.53 | Jamash | High Stamina is good too |
| 21:51.09 | Jamash | the ideal of course being High Stamina *and* Epic Mount |
| 21:51.36 | fewyn | i have an inn on all my 100s |
| 21:51.37 | fewyn | so far |
| 21:51.44 | fewyn | so ~8 of them |
| 21:51.47 | Jamash | here's hoping Android 5.0.2 helps my N7 2012 wifi stop sucking |
| 21:51.55 | Jamash | jeez |
| 21:52.06 | fewyn | i'm currently unemployed |
| 21:52.09 | fewyn | still job hunting |
| 21:52.22 | Jamash | so am I and I only have four |
| 21:53.02 | Jamash | just got my pandaren monk to 60 for boosting |
| 21:53.28 | Jamash | so actually only two at 100 and two between 90 and 100 |
| 21:53.56 | Simca | i've been alternating between Death Fascination and Voodoo Zealot each week at my inn |
| 21:54.08 | Simca | picking trolls and undeads whenever possible |
| 21:54.16 | Jamash | that's cute |
| 21:54.29 | Simca | it's possibly the most effective strategy |
| 21:54.55 | fewyn | http://sig.lanjelin.com/user/fewyn |
| 21:55.10 | Simca | at least until I get rid of all the garbage alliance followers they saddle us with |
| 21:55.24 | Simca | like cromon, millhouse, leeroy, soulbinder tuulanni, etc |
| 21:55.44 | Unkle | Leroy is pretty badass during invasions. |
| 21:57.36 | Simca | and 3/5 of the bodyguards are non-horde too |
| 22:00.04 | Jamash | too bad Blook is the only follower with Combat Experience |
| 22:01.01 | Simca | yeah blook is my exception |
| 22:01.03 | Jamash | I kinda like having alliance followers doing my bidding |
| 22:01.04 | Simca | he's a hero |
| 22:01.17 | Simca | going to take pollution down to zero or something like that |
| 22:01.32 | Jamash | it's like, yeah, I'm so awesome that even the alliance knows I'm in charge |
| 22:02.09 | Jamash | fewyn: You have a problem |
| 22:02.16 | pompy | http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2282874-georgia-tech-fans-hack-uga-website-update-team-schedule-with-a-kicking |
| 22:02.17 | fewyn | Jamash =p |
| 22:02.36 | Simca | i also still have soulbinder tulanni and talonpriest ishaal for the moment. they counter group damage and magic debuff respectively, both of which are not easy to find replacements for |
| 22:02.59 | Simca | last week my inn option was between 3 followers who all had deadly minions counters, was awful |
| 22:03.25 | Semlar | i have an army of tauren because that's all the tavern gives me |
| 22:04.57 | Jamash | pompy: once again, grand juries take petty crime oh so very seriously, but not police brutality |
| 22:06.50 | pompy | indeed |
| 22:08.23 | pompy | :o small earthquake in the DFW area http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usc000tc7z#summary |
| 22:08.43 | Jamash | pompy: it's probably a publicity stunt for San Andreas |
| 22:09.18 | pompy | Probably. |
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| 22:14.18 | Jamash | also isn't this basically a remake of Superman The Movie? |
| 22:17.28 | ccox_ | only 3.5, amazed anyone noticed |
| 22:17.51 | fewyn | there's been a lot of those lately here pompy |
| 22:17.54 | fewyn | i never feel them |
| 22:17.58 | Simca | if you were staring a glass of water you would notice |
| 22:18.01 | Simca | at a* |
| 22:18.03 | fewyn | i blame fracking |
| 22:18.30 | ccox_ | interesting that the TX and OK quakes are all incredibly shallow |
| 22:18.46 | fewyn | i live in carrollton |
| 22:18.56 | ccox_ | sorry to hear that |
| 22:35.01 | Fisker | oh man karl_w_w |
| 22:35.04 | Fisker | I almost got what was coming to me |
| 22:40.37 | Simca | a swift kick? |
| 22:41.07 | mikma | to the crotch |
| 22:42.54 | Simca | foxlit: odd. I thought you fixed it so that it took XP cap into account? most of the calculations i've seen consider it, except for this one: http://i.imgur.com/jjaRER0.jpg |
| 22:43.08 | Fisker | I was playing hunter Simca |
| 22:43.25 | Fisker | Had lethal on board but I only had 2 hp |
| 22:43.28 | Fisker | so I played leeroy |
| 22:43.28 | Simca | the first option is an 87% chance of success + enough XP to push her over into epic 100. the second option is a 100% chance of success + enough XP to push her over into epic 100, which is clearly better. |
| 22:43.33 | Fisker | enemy had knife juggler |
| 22:43.35 | Fisker | :P |
| 22:43.43 | nevcairiel | Simca: that follower is a paladin, the are slow learners, need some extra xp to make sure |
| 22:43.48 | Simca | lol |
| 22:43.59 | Simca | don't hate the pallies </3 |
| 22:44.06 | Fisker | I couldn't use any of my guys so thought it had already decided on the server I was dead |
| 22:44.09 | Fisker | so almost died there |
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| 22:47.33 | foxlit | Simca: odd. reload and try again? |
| 22:48.47 | Simca | I already sent her out. the process for what I did was this: every single follower was out on mission, i completed all missions, then i looked at the active tab and that was the first mission i tried |
| 23:12.49 | zenzelezz | "Why specifically did Darth Vader choose Han Solo to test the carbonite freezing?" -- "The real reason? Harrison Ford did not sign a contract to do all of the movies, and was undecided as to whether he wanted to continue. So George Lucas put the character 'on ice' in case he did not return." |
| 23:12.51 | zenzelezz | dat pun |
| 23:17.20 | Thunder_Child | ~lart zenzelezz |
| 23:17.20 | purl | whacks zenzelezz with the cluebat |
| 23:17.30 | Thunder_Child | Also, it is not a pun. |
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| 23:28.23 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: you're entirely correct, I was too late to correct it |
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