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| 01:09.29 | tem|laptop | anyone have any recommendations for an irc client on mac? |
| 01:09.37 | tem|laptop | this one is... adequate at best |
| 01:09.51 | Kowh | I like xchat azure |
| 01:11.17 | Semlar | hacks, simca |
| 01:11.17 | Trucidare | Is xchat still a thing? |
| 01:11.33 | Trucidare | I thought hexchat replaced it |
| 01:11.38 | kd3 | well, the original source is gpl, but mainline I don't think has gotten updated in years |
| 01:11.41 | Kowh | Not really, outside of azure. The HexChat fork is the only one active. |
| 01:11.55 | Simca | xchat repo is dead as it gets |
| 01:12.26 | Kowh | Azure's another fork, really. |
| 01:16.58 | Trucidare | Are value steps on sliders bugged at the moment? |
| 01:18.10 | Simca | I don't think so, not any more than usual |
| 01:19.05 | Trucidare | Weird. I have to now round my slider to the decimal point I want my value step to be |
| 01:20.03 | Simca | yeah i think that's always been that way |
| 01:20.09 | tem|laptop | is GetItemIcon broken for items with different icons on the same base id? |
| 01:20.22 | Simca | almost certainly |
| 01:20.40 | tem|laptop | it looks like no matter what I pass to it, I get the "base" item's icon |
| 01:20.58 | tem|laptop | e.g. if I give it a mythic item's link, I get back the normal icon |
| 01:21.11 | Simca | yeah; it looks like it only handles itemID properly |
| 01:21.13 | Trucidare | Hmm I never seemed to need that before WoD |
| 01:21.37 | Semlar | so how does it display the icon for it in your bag |
| 01:21.56 | Simca | likely GetItemInfo for the item_link |
| 01:22.01 | Trucidare | GetItemInfo will work |
| 01:22.05 | tem|laptop | possibly |
| 01:22.08 | Semlar | problem solved forever |
| 01:22.21 | tem|laptop | but GetItemInfo used to not work for all items |
| 01:22.26 | tem|laptop | there's a reason for GetItemIcon |
| 01:22.31 | tem|laptop | and I can't remember what it was |
| 01:22.35 | tem|laptop | it may not be needed anymore |
| 01:22.37 | Semlar | well it clearly doesn't work |
| 01:22.47 | Trucidare | It's a lot more compact I guess |
| 01:23.03 | Semlar | so i'd go with the one that you aren't sure whether it works over the one you know doesn't work |
| 01:23.05 | tem|laptop | a reason that has nothing to do with compactness |
| 01:23.07 | Simca | GetItemInfo needs the item's item-sparse entry; GetItemIcon does not |
| 01:23.24 | Simca | if you have never seen the item, GetItemInfo will have to contact the server |
| 01:23.33 | tem|laptop | that's it |
| 01:23.35 | tem|laptop | that's the reason |
| 01:23.51 | tem|laptop | GetItemInfo returns nil for an item you haven't seen yet |
| 01:23.52 | Trucidare | Oh, so it works on if you have it cached |
| 01:24.12 | Semlar | since when was there a function that didn't require you to request information about the item from the server |
| 01:24.21 | tem|laptop | since a long long time |
| 01:24.22 | Simca | the first GetItemInfo call will request it to be cached, if it returns nil, set a 1 sec timer to look again |
| 01:24.29 | Semlar | how does GetItemIcon know what the texture is supposed to be |
| 01:24.42 | tem|laptop | all item icons are in the client |
| 01:24.43 | Simca | ItemAppearance and ItemModifiedAppearance |
| 01:25.20 | Simca | for some reason, blizzard writes a certain redundant amount of data to Item.db2 for all items, even item IDs that don't resolve to anything |
| 01:25.38 | Simca | so you can pull up category information on items that don't really exist |
| 01:25.42 | tem|laptop | is there an event for when an item's info is cached? |
| 01:25.45 | Simca | yes |
| 01:25.46 | Semlar | yes |
| 01:25.58 | Trucidare | GET_ITEM_INFO_RECEIVED |
| 01:26.10 | tem|laptop | hm |
| 01:26.33 | tem|laptop | I think I'll display the icon from GetItemIcon if GetItemInfo returns nil |
| 01:26.42 | tem|laptop | and then update on that event |
| 01:27.02 | tem|laptop | maybe with the icon desaturated or a loading anim over it |
| 01:27.23 | Trucidare | The event doesn't seem to have any arguements so I don't see much use for it either |
| 01:27.26 | Semlar | so the function can take an item link but ignores everything except the item id? |
| 01:27.33 | tem|laptop | probably |
| 01:27.46 | Simca | seems that way, semlar |
| 01:28.11 | tem|laptop | is there good docs somewhere on what the additional properties mean? |
| 01:28.23 | Semlar | how are the mythic item textures stored in the client then |
| 01:28.34 | tem|laptop | no idea! |
| 01:28.47 | tem|laptop | probably the same as the others, but GetItemIcon just takes the first it finds |
| 01:28.50 | tem|laptop | or something similar |
| 01:28.58 | Simca | third (iirc) column in ItemModifiedAppearance is a bonusqualifierID |
| 01:28.59 | Trucidare | Additional properties as in the enhancements to the item? |
| 01:29.11 | tem|laptop | yeah |
| 01:29.26 | tem|laptop | item:id:other:other:other:other:lotsofothers...:more:more |
| 01:29.26 | Simca | some bonusIDs set that qualifier, like the Mythic and Heroic ones |
| 01:29.30 | Semlar | i don't suppose their texture path is just a modified version of the normal path |
| 01:29.30 | tem|laptop | right |
| 01:29.37 | tem|laptop | but is there docs on that somewhere |
| 01:29.42 | tem|laptop | are there* |
| 01:29.49 | Trucidare | Back in WoTLK I was modifying the item strings. I couldn't personally find any docs anywhere though |
| 01:29.54 | Semlar | i wasn't aware that mythic gear even looked different |
| 01:30.08 | Simca | Semlar: usually but there's no requirement, it hooks up to a FileDataID in ItemAppearance.db2 |
| 01:30.09 | Trucidare | I could modify them to get item strings like [Shadowmourne of the Monkey] and link it in trade |
| 01:30.09 | tem|laptop | the mythic gear is an "upgraded" visual appearance |
| 01:30.15 | tem|laptop | and different icons |
| 01:30.23 | Simca | it could be 123imafile.png |
| 01:31.14 | Semlar | wowhead seems to just display the same icon for all 3 versions of the item |
| 01:31.33 | Simca | it doesn't vary for every item |
| 01:31.44 | Simca | find a tier armor item, like chest armor |
| 01:31.49 | Simca | for warriors or something |
| 01:31.57 | Simca | it will change color as it changes difficulty |
| 01:32.16 | Simca | because the different difficulties have different colors, blizzard is nice and changes the icon to show the right color |
| 01:32.52 | tem|laptop | if you visit the item's page, it has the correct icon |
| 01:32.53 | Semlar | they all seem to have the same icon on wowhead |
| 01:33.03 | tem|laptop | but in the search results, it uses the same icon as the normal and heroic |
| 01:33.03 | tem|laptop | weird |
| 01:33.12 | Semlar | http://www.wowhead.com/item=115582&bonus=0 ? |
| 01:33.44 | Simca | http://www.wowdb.com/items/113648-legplates-of-fractured-crystal?bonusIDs=567 vs http://www.wowdb.com/items/113648-legplates-of-fractured-crystal?bonusIDs=566 |
| 01:33.50 | tem|laptop | Ihttp://www.wowhead.com/item=113600&bonus=567 |
| 01:33.53 | tem|laptop | er |
| 01:33.54 | tem|laptop | http://www.wowhead.com/item=113600&bonus=567 |
| 01:34.22 | Semlar | i see |
| 01:34.49 | Semlar | inv_plate_raiddeathknight_o_01helm -> inv_plate_raiddeathknightmythic_o_01helm |
| 01:35.02 | Simca | yeah |
| 01:35.12 | Simca | and they'll throw in color words in that spot sometimes |
| 01:35.13 | Semlar | the only difference is the word mythic, but i don't know how reliable that would be |
| 01:35.23 | Simca | it is reliable for the mythic sets |
| 01:35.47 | Simca | but let's just say they speel rel gud sometimes, especially with colors |
| 01:35.51 | Semlar | and you can't really check whether a texture exists very easily |
| 01:36.04 | Simca | and i had to write a ridiculous amount of bruteforce patterns to find them all |
| 01:36.18 | Simca | over 300+ color combinations |
| 01:36.22 | Semlar | ^_^ |
| 01:36.26 | Simca | because zul'jin is a color |
| 01:36.27 | Simca | clearly |
| 01:36.31 | Simca | so is 'aliance' |
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| 01:46.28 | tem|laptop | Simca: what did you do that research for? |
| 01:46.37 | Semlar | hacks |
| 01:46.43 | tem|laptop | clearly |
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| 02:16.32 | Simca | news |
| 02:17.03 | Simca | blizzard is slow to update FileData.dbc, so bruteforcing texture names is a way to beat the crowd to new textures that would otherwise be nameless |
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| 03:27.43 | tz | why oh why does ner'zhul's room always make me crit error >_< |
| 03:29.18 | Ressy | probably a texture. |
| 03:39.12 | jleclanche | Iriel: dedicated to you: https://pay.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/2r4bau/what_commonlytold_fact_is_incorrect/cnceuei?context=3 |
| 03:41.35 | Iriel | jleclanche: Hm, should I be flattered or offended that you say that? |
| 03:41.39 | jleclanche | :) |
| 03:45.54 | Fisker | Mmm unstable portal blingtron that gives you doomhammer |
| 04:11.25 | Arrowmaster | jleclanche: why are you still using pay.reddit.com? |
| 04:11.35 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: because https everywhere hasnt been updated |
| 04:12.05 | Arrowmaster | you know you can disable it in https everywhere |
| 04:12.46 | Arrowmaster | then just enable it in your account |
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| 05:22.44 | tz | we need to start a petition to go and kill lug'dol instead of his countless thugs |
| 05:24.08 | Ressy | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=36220 |
| 05:36.05 | tz | ooooooo |
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| 07:16.14 | karl_w_w | level 3 trading post is worse than level 2 |
| 07:16.21 | karl_w_w | cos it has no back entrance |
| 07:25.42 | karl_w_w | half life 3 confirmed http://gfycat.com/LiveMinorFrenchbulldog |
| 07:34.03 | jleclanche | https://pay.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2r5580/okay_i_think_i_found_the_most_aggravating/ |
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| 08:10.16 | Trucidare | Did you guys ever make a character name that was part of the spam filter before WoD? |
| 08:17.18 | Trucidare | Cause for the longest time, you were able to make characters with names that were part of the spam filter. When anyone said it, they couldn't see the chat nor could anyone else |
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| 08:28.31 | Simca | spam filter and character name prevention had different lists |
| 08:28.36 | Simca | so that's probably why |
| 08:28.56 | Simca | might have been a few weird cases in one and not the other |
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| 09:44.06 | nebula169 | foxlit: should add elemental rune missions to "Missions of Interest", replacing Abrogator Stones http://www.wowhead.com/missions?filter=cr=4;crs=3;crv=75 |
| 09:51.01 | nebula169 | ah, there's already a ticket for it, my bad |
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| 10:55.17 | Shirik | awkward: The AirAsia flight that crashed did not have permission to fly the route it was flying |
| 11:14.01 | jaxdahl | knowingly? |
| 11:14.38 | jaxdahl | oh, as a matter of scheduling. |
| 11:14.56 | jaxdahl | thought you meant air corridor |
| 11:30.35 | Industrial | Is void storage account wide? Can I put an awesome looking staff in there and transmog to that on every character? |
| 11:30.43 | Industrial | (with a staff) |
| 11:42.23 | nevcairiel | no |
| 11:42.27 | nevcairiel | its per character |
| 11:44.04 | Trucidare | Is it possible to return what a frame inherits? |
| 12:09.38 | Neffi | Trucidare: I don't believe so, no, unless you were able to check at the time of creation and it was created via CreateFrame() from Lua (by hooking that function and checking the parameter) |
| 12:12.32 | Neffi | which would look like: hooksecurefunc('CreateFrame', function(ftype, fname, fparent, inherits) --[[ `inherits` is a list of templates it inherits from, as a string ]] end) |
| 12:21.28 | Trucidare | Oh right, thanks |
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| 13:08.42 | VIad | http://imgur.com/gvEtg26 |
| 13:14.04 | Neffi | I wish I hadn't seen that |
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| 13:33.36 | karl_w_w | holy fuck |
| 13:33.53 | karl_w_w | i have been completely unable to get my glasses clean the past couple of days |
| 13:51.11 | Industrial | Hi so |
| 13:51.18 | Industrial | http://i.imgur.com/CRk5bHy.jpg |
| 13:51.44 | Industrial | Hats the ugly red bar behind the real hp bar? |
| 13:54.01 | Industrial | the "real" one ticking the hp is aloft, the addon I'm trying to configure |
| 13:54.22 | Industrial | there seems to be a 100% red 50% high bar along the length of the background of the healhbar of which I have no idea what it is |
| 14:01.36 | Maldivia | aggro? |
| 14:01.57 | nebula169 | wow, aloft still works? |
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| 14:17.10 | Stanzilla | probably up to fanupdate4 now |
| 14:20.10 | Industrial | shrug, is there a better alternative? |
| 14:20.58 | nebula169 | think kui and tidyplates are what most people use |
| 14:21.37 | nebula169 | i used aloft way back in the day, but when it was no longer being maintained moved to tidyplates/threatplates |
| 14:29.32 | Stanzilla | kui > Ã |
| 14:29.34 | Stanzilla | * |
| 14:35.04 | Industrial | k |
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| 15:03.59 | zenzelezz | "Nordic languages and grammar compared" - https://twitter.com/villepeltola/status/550577491551989760/photo/1 |
| 15:07.07 | haste | seems about right |
| 15:13.29 | mikma | heh |
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| 16:45.16 | karl_w_w | http://i.4cdn.org/b/1420303403880.webm :D |
| 16:53.43 | Neffi | o.o |
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| 18:29.09 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/oc92wCQ |
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| 18:43.05 | zenzelezz | mikma: lol |
| 18:43.06 | karl_w_w | why does steam refuse to automatically download updates? |
| 18:48.52 | fewyn | did you turn auto updates off? |
| 18:54.57 | Fisker | I'll probably lose karl_w_w |
| 18:55.07 | Fisker | but turn 5 al'akir, turn 6 maly, turn 7 antonidas |
| 18:57.15 | karl_w_w | no fewyn |
| 18:57.18 | karl_w_w | yes Fisker |
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| 19:38.32 | Fisker | I'm a jerk karl_w_w |
| 19:38.47 | karl_w_w | yes Fisker |
| 19:38.58 | Fisker | faked a priest into thinking I had duplicate |
| 19:39.08 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/7bHooLe.jpg <-get rekt |
| 19:55.24 | VIad | impressive http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/651549-WowCardioRaid-post-mortem-analysis-tool-%28beta26%29 |
| 20:08.09 | zenzelezz | I was thinking of making something similar a few years back, but not as fancy. More of a replay thing |
| 20:10.56 | karl_w_w | "Mac & cheese w/ bone marrow & spec" what is spec? |
| 20:13.59 | Semlar | warcraftlogs already has a replay mode |
| 20:14.40 | zenzelezz | that never stopped anybody |
| 20:15.06 | zenzelezz | almost every project I think of is just for fun or challenge; not because I think anyone else would need (or want) it \o/ |
| 20:16.41 | Fisker | yeah sure karl_w_w |
| 20:16.53 | Fisker | When I get the fucking gahrzilla when he plays knife juggler |
| 20:16.57 | Fisker | Then knife juggler |
| 20:17.02 | Fisker | then 2 minions |
| 20:17.09 | Fisker | 5 knife juggles, lets all put them in your face |
| 20:19.24 | karl_w_w | you sound elated |
| 20:19.51 | Fisker | yep |
| 20:19.56 | Fisker | had one knife hit I would've won the gam |
| 20:19.58 | Fisker | game |
| 20:20.00 | Fisker | unless he had taunt up |
| 20:24.39 | Fisker | haha rekt paladin |
| 20:27.20 | plaw | sweeet https://github.com/mmozeiko/aes-finder |
| 20:28.24 | Fisker | I thought was a whole different kind of finder |
| 20:28.43 | plaw | you would |
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| 20:42.16 | Shadowed | btw foxlit www.wowhead.com/item=115510 more missions of interest for masterplan |
| 20:43.12 | Shadowed | oh someone posted a ticket for it already |
| 20:43.13 | Shadowed | sweet |
| 20:48.20 | Semlar | 900 more things to loot |
| 20:48.34 | karl_w_w | so guys, the most important question: |
| 20:48.41 | karl_w_w | what's the best cake? |
| 20:48.44 | Semlar | pie |
| 20:50.18 | karl_w_w | pie isn't cake |
| 20:50.31 | Semlar | that's what's so great about it |
| 20:51.02 | Semlar | i guess if you have to settle for cake, black forest cake is acceptable |
| 20:53.08 | karl_w_w | crazy individual |
| 20:57.17 | Thunder_Child | Cheesecake |
| 20:57.49 | Thunder_Child | Ice cream comes in second I suppose. |
| 20:59.30 | Fisker | yes rng yeeeeeeeees |
| 20:59.40 | Fisker | deathwing from a sylvanas stolen unstable portaled sneed's |
| 20:59.56 | Semlar | what does that have to do with cake |
| 21:00.42 | karl_w_w | Fisker doesn't like cake |
| 21:00.54 | Fisker | nope |
| 21:06.08 | Thunder_Child | Maybe rng is a cake from whatever backwards place Fisker comes from. |
| 21:28.12 | Neffi | <karl_w_w> pie isn't cake <- I posit that pie is a clade of cake |
| 21:28.25 | Neffi | or is it the other way around? Bah! |
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| 21:36.33 | tz | ugh, 8:30am and 30°C |
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| 21:41.15 | Fisker | :< karl_w_w |
| 21:41.19 | Fisker | no punishment for hunters |
| 21:41.38 | Fisker | got a damn king krush from webspinner and decided to not put me at 2hp when I had no heals |
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| 22:01.42 | Fisker | oh god no |
| 22:01.53 | Fisker | I was so glad for getting a 5 mana kt that I silenced a Dark iron dwarf |
| 22:04.43 | Fisker | basically the best card to ever get if your opponent has no hard removal :< |
| 22:29.11 | Industrial | LFG grind is killing me 20-30min timers |
| 22:30.59 | VIad | karl_w_w: party hard http://imgur.com/gvEtg26 |
| 22:52.34 | foxlit | http://www.curseforge.com/media/attachments/54/503/example.png << but that's hard... :( |
| 22:53.34 | VIad | ought to be a way to scan missions from the dbc and figure out what traits are actually used, frequence, i.e. how important is is to recruit a follower to counter certain ability and how many, e.g. |
| 22:54.45 | Industrial | How do I tell my guardian to stop attacking? go passive? |
| 22:54.58 | VIad | Industrial: just RIP and resummon him after an hour |
| 22:55.01 | VIad | all hope is lost |
| 22:55.03 | foxlit | your guardian does whatever it pleases. |
| 22:55.23 | Industrial | (stupid boomkin random aoe :P) |
| 22:55.36 | VIad | my favorite is when I do the pit and my guy wants to tank the elites hitting him for twice his health |
| 22:55.44 | VIad | he is a healer btw |
| 22:55.52 | VIad | should have a stance bar imo |
| 22:56.58 | Industrial | well if everybody gets a pet, where is hunter/lock/mage ? |
| 22:57.20 | VIad | talk to him |
| 22:57.22 | VIad | and tell him |
| 22:57.32 | VIad | "I want you to passively heal me" :p |
| 23:00.25 | VIad | btw, LOL http://imgur.com/gallery/zss9yFq |
| 23:01.04 | foxlit | whose talk show is that? |
| 23:01.41 | foxlit | (i.e. who is the guy on the right?) |
| 23:01.52 | VIad | I think it's the show host. |
| 23:02.24 | VIad | tbh not sure... |
| 23:02.39 | VIad | only watch the daily show with john stewart |
| 23:02.45 | foxlit | contemplates rephrasing as "Who is the show host?" but that's just going to end up with "I think it's the guy on the right?" |
| 23:02.54 | VIad | :D |
| 23:03.25 | VIad | US got like 10 talk shows per channel or something |
| 23:04.21 | Fisker | my brain foxlit |
| 23:04.23 | Fisker | it's brain freezing |
| 23:04.32 | foxlit | your brain is on hearthstone, Fisker. |
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| 23:22.37 | Shirik | so someone has decided wikidata should become the pokedex anyone can edit https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P1685 |
| 23:23.47 | Fisker | What's wrong with that? |
| 23:23.58 | Shirik | nothing |
| 23:27.21 | Fisker | You wanna fight about it? |
| 23:33.15 | Shirik | I like you Fisker |
| 23:33.28 | Fisker | I like you too Shirik |
| 23:33.45 | Fisker | But we never got to meet at blizzcon |
| 23:39.24 | *** join/#wowuidev Silencer (~Silencer@93-87-243-142.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 23:39.33 | Silencer | Hello |
| 23:39.48 | Silencer | Is it possible to make macro using alt modifier with mouseover ? |
| 23:40.08 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 23:40.52 | Stanzilla | cast [@mouseover,mod:alt] [] datspell |
| 23:41.00 | Silencer | thank you |
| 23:41.18 | Stanzilla | probably want ",exists" in there, too |
| 23:50.37 | fewyn | i wish people who posted 1 stacks of herbs would die... in a fire |
| 23:55.27 | Trucidare | What's the maximum amount of auctions you can run anyways? |
