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| 00:24.58 | Simca_ | haha wow, foxlit, I found the bug |
| 00:25.01 | Dagmar | Finally got a mission that I can see ilvl values with |
| 00:25.20 | Simca_ | excellent |
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| 00:25.59 | Dagmar | 90% with Kimzee (615), 86% with Lantressor (615) |
| 00:26.26 | Dagmar | Sorry, Kimzee is 651 |
| 00:26.29 | Dagmar | Small typo there |
| 00:26.43 | Simca_ | can you try it with them alone? |
| 00:26.55 | Simca_ | and the other slots empty |
| 00:27.14 | Simca_ | (and I assume they both have no active traits or abilities) |
| 00:27.15 | Dagmar | 33% and 37% |
| 00:27.21 | Simca_ | kk |
| 00:27.26 | Dagmar | Yeah those are the only relevant ablilties they have |
| 00:27.46 | Simca_ | 'those?' |
| 00:28.10 | Dagmar | Danger Zones, each |
| 00:28.17 | Simca_ | gotcha |
| 00:28.25 | Simca_ | is the mission a standard 3-follower 3-mechanic mission? |
| 00:28.36 | Dagmar | I can only get to 90% because Qiana is jsut 603 |
| 00:28.57 | Dagmar | It's a 3-follower 8-hour 615 mission |
| 00:29.28 | Dagmar | Qiana alone, 6% chance |
| 00:29.57 | Dagmar | The mission is Return to Sender, she has Wild Aggression covered |
| 00:30.20 | Simca_ | excellent, tyvm |
| 00:30.49 | Simca_ | my calculations show that if there was no cap to the 'overitemleveled' bonus, Kimzee should have a 44% chance of success |
| 00:31.06 | Simca_ | with a 15 overitemlevel cap, it comes out to 37.5% |
| 00:31.14 | Simca_ | so that is that |
| 00:31.49 | Simca_ | Also, foxlit: the bug is with Advanced Training. It says it provides 35% XP to all followers. It doesn't. It gives 30% XP. |
| 00:33.11 | Shadowed | Simca_ it's actually very fast to bruteforce it yourself |
| 00:33.24 | Shadowed | you can do it in something like 100ms at most and that's without any fancy filtering |
| 00:33.29 | Shadowed | the harder part is that I'm super super lazy |
| 00:33.36 | Shadowed | and writing a full follower replacement mod is a lot of effort |
| 00:34.49 | Simca_ | bruteforcing the follower combinations to get XP/gold/item rewards, sure |
| 00:35.16 | Simca_ | it seems like it'd be longer than 100ms when you tried to optimize XP amongst all possible mission combinations |
| 00:35.32 | Shadowed | eh |
| 00:35.48 | Shadowed | yes, but that's a lot more suboptimal I think overall when you get farther in |
| 00:35.52 | Shadowed | which you can do it in like a week |
| 00:36.25 | Shadowed | at this point I'm only looking at 2-3 missions that I care about and if you have an optimizer for each one, you can do it pretty quickly yourself |
| 00:36.26 | xyphoid | there's also the whole thing that a lot of the time you don't care about the actual reward - so you're maximising salvage |
| 00:36.28 | Shadowed | it'd be more useful for leveling |
| 00:36.31 | Shadowed | yea |
| 00:37.00 | Simca_ | master plan already bruteforces individual missions pretty optimally; it'd be a bruteforce-all-missions addon that is not yet available (not practically anyway - i'm not counting GMM) |
| 00:37.21 | xyphoid | do we know yet if there's more chance of salvage from harder / longer missions? |
| 00:37.28 | Shadowed | yea, that's why I don't care Simca_ :P |
| 00:37.37 | Simca_ | no; but it's unlikely, xyphoid. |
| 00:37.43 | Shadowed | since I can do it fast enough myself with 1-3 missions |
| 00:38.01 | Shadowed | and I'd rather play WoW |
| 00:38.05 | xyphoid | i was thinking about optimising and you'd need multiple modes - level particular followers, flag this follower as do-not-level, which mission rewards i care about |
| 00:38.13 | Shadowed | yea |
| 00:38.18 | Shadowed | it's doable, it's just not very useful |
| 00:38.21 | Shadowed | (for me) |
| 00:38.47 | Simca_ | once you have the bruteforcing system in place, changing which reward it goes after (an item, xp, salvage, gold, etc) is easy. |
| 00:39.47 | Simca_ | i might try to do something basic as an extension of MasterPlan |
| 00:39.59 | xyphoid | right now my main decisions are how to spend upgrade items |
| 00:40.53 | Simca_ | highmaul missions are the end goal, and they require 6 abilities out of 3 followers. That means your only chance for getting 100% on those mission is to have a ton of epic ilvl 645 followers with varied ability sets and good racial synergy |
| 00:41.20 | Simca_ | (since it is unlikely you will have exactly the 3 right epic followers' ability sets, you need the racial synergy to make up for the missed mechanic) |
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| 00:42.50 | Stanzilla | Shadowed: I heard SUF uses "MONOCHROME" instead of "MONOCHROMEOUTLINE" and crashes wow because of that |
| 00:44.05 | fewyn | trying to find a christmas tree topper i actually like is hard |
| 00:44.45 | Shadowed | oh I think Iremember that being reported like |
| 00:44.47 | Shadowed | a year ago |
| 00:44.48 | Shadowed | and never fixing it |
| 00:44.49 | Shadowed | mmm |
| 00:45.17 | Semlar | all of my epic followers counter swarms |
| 00:45.41 | Semlar | now i just need a mission with nothing but swarms |
| 00:48.12 | Neffi | swarms Semlar's followers |
| 00:48.25 | Semlar | dies |
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| 01:28.20 | Mr_Rabies | argh i really hope they add some way for the UI to know when one realm's connected to another |
| 01:28.52 | Mr_Rabies | i moved my bank alt to a char on a realm connected to ours and it's kind of a nightmare |
| 01:29.18 | Mr_Rabies | can't see my scanned auction prices with auctionator, altoholic just refuses to link them even though it supposedly supports connected realms |
| 01:29.44 | Mr_Rabies | er my personal storage guild bank moved to a char on a connected realm |
| 01:30.18 | plaw | http://imgur.com/a/kbOh0 (via karl_w_w but prob still old for this #) |
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| 01:39.12 | Amarande | yeah they really should have just merged realms |
| 01:39.16 | Amarande | except, that whole name thing. :( |
| 01:39.32 | Amarande | but then, couldn't they just merge them and use timestamps to enforce the names, just like with nicks on irc |
| 01:39.42 | Amarande | whichever character's newer, congrats, you gotta change your name heh |
| 01:40.12 | plaw | I can already see all the crying from people about the lvl 10 barely used toons causing 100's to name change |
| 01:40.16 | Ivnedar | I guess that's one way to sabotage your subscriber base :) |
| 01:40.33 | Amarande | heh, the main thing I've seen bandied about is that they don't do that because name change is a paid service and they don't want to lose potential voluntary namechange fees |
| 01:40.44 | Semlar | a better solution would be to just use the battle tags |
| 01:40.51 | Semlar | like diablo did |
| 01:40.57 | Amarande | (also commonly bandied about as to why enforcement of character name policy is so lax unless someone specifically reports someone or it is an out and out obscene name) |
| 01:40.57 | plaw | wish could change battle tag again |
| 01:41.09 | Ivnedar | are battle tags exposed without friending someone in wow? |
| 01:41.24 | Semlar | i don't think so |
| 01:42.06 | Ivnedar | so moving to battle tags would remove that layer on anonymity |
| 01:42.14 | Semlar | good |
| 01:42.14 | Ivnedar | may be good, could also be bad :) |
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| 01:43.12 | Amarande | yeah character names are fairly opaque and help against things like cyber stalkers |
| 01:43.38 | Amarande | I was reading the ffxiv forums earlier, and apparently one thing lamented is that ffxiv lodestone (= armory) pages are tied to the character's internal numeric ID |
| 01:43.52 | Semlar | oh no, someone might cyberstalk me |
| 01:43.55 | Amarande | as opposed to WoW Armory where it is AFAIK based on the character's actual name |
| 01:44.00 | Amarande | Semlar: it's more what happens if someone GETS stalked |
| 01:44.13 | Amarande | if WoW Armory works like I think it does, if you change your character name there's no pingback left behind |
| 01:44.36 | Amarande | since FFXIV Lodestone uses character numeric ID, if you try changing your char name then your stalker can just pick up the new name through the armory |
| 01:44.57 | Shirik | detecting what the new name has already been proven to be relatively easy |
| 01:45.06 | Semlar | exactly what are they going to do to you |
| 01:45.25 | Shirik | it turns out that new characters with decked out gear don't tend to just randomly show up on a server |
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| 01:45.39 | Semlar | with the same number of achievement points |
| 01:45.49 | Amarande | Semlar: well let's put it this way ... gold farmer spam is annoying enough, let alone someone actively going out of their way to harass someone |
| 01:46.03 | Semlar | ignore them? |
| 01:46.10 | Semlar | how is this a real problem |
| 01:46.37 | Amarande | well, in the FFXIV case on the boards, apparently the offender was also harassing the victim's FC (guild) |
| 01:46.57 | Semlar | you could also just report them and blizzard will ban them |
| 01:47.15 | Amarande | but yeah, on the other hand, the permanent unique ID is more convenient |
| 01:47.38 | Amarande | and it would deal with ... well, to some degree |
| 01:47.47 | Amarande | I'm not sure, how badly are addons confused if you have more than one unit with the same name in the raid? |
| 01:48.24 | Semlar | it would be more of a problem with the underlying infrastructure relying on character names |
| 01:48.30 | Amarande | (which is I suppose what you could get if everything was internally battletag based like D3, so no name uniqueness rules at all) |
| 01:48.58 | Dagmar | There's already enough victims of Stupid Name Syndrome |
| 01:50.37 | Semlar | i kind of want a stalker just so i can write an addon to fuck with them |
| 01:51.18 | Ivnedar | convince other addon authors to add in special code if the player's character name matches your stalker |
| 01:51.25 | Semlar | the problem with someone trying to stalk me is that i would find out where they lived |
| 01:51.31 | Ivnedar | start messing with their head from all directions |
| 01:53.04 | plaw | tackle hugs Wobin |
| 01:54.25 | Ivnedar | hrrm, that's a nasty idea for an addon. scan people as they go by, pulling back their achievement list, store that and start joining up alts to each other, build up an account/alt database |
| 01:54.53 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure warcraft logs already does that |
| 01:55.31 | Semlar | with the armory |
| 01:55.42 | Semlar | and they track when people transfer servers |
| 01:56.07 | xyphoid | wowprogress does that don't they? |
| 01:56.14 | Semlar | whatever, one of those |
| 01:56.28 | fewyn | wowprogress does iirc |
| 01:56.36 | fewyn | there's another site too |
| 01:56.39 | fewyn | i can't remember tho |
| 01:56.52 | Ivnedar | *nod* |
| 01:57.04 | fewyn | http://www.wowprogress.com/character/us/velen/Fewyn yeah that shows most of my alts |
| 01:57.13 | Semlar | i'm sure askmrrobot also does it behind the scenes |
| 01:58.30 | xyphoid | i still haven't logged into any of my alts post-WoD so mne doesn't have any - it will be interesting to see how long it takes to update |
| 01:58.33 | xyphoid | i'll try that tonight |
| 01:59.54 | Semlar | wowprogress thinks my hunter is level 128 |
| 02:00.05 | Ivnedar | heh, my wowprogress has me in ilvl 338 stuff |
| 02:00.11 | Ivnedar | lvl 90 |
| 02:00.38 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:01.34 | Ivnedar | what're the next few expansions like? |
| 02:01.39 | Ivnedar | since you're from the future :) |
| 02:02.11 | Semlar | they expanded garrisons to have entire planets we can construct |
| 02:02.29 | Semlar | and we can actually hire other players as followers |
| 02:02.44 | Ivnedar | Using alts as followers would be cool |
| 02:02.52 | Ivnedar | or at least see them wandering around in your garrison |
| 02:03.02 | Semlar | and we can design our own instances |
| 02:03.10 | Ivnedar | Account wide garrison, alts hang out there |
| 02:04.54 | Thunder_Child | I thought about that. It would only work if you could build all of the prof buildings. |
| 02:05.20 | Mr_Rabies | recruit alt as bodyguard, level up alt |
| 02:05.28 | Mr_Rabies | the self-co-op game has begun |
| 02:05.42 | Ivnedar | yup, go on a 10 man flex raid with your alt army |
| 02:06.17 | Thunder_Child | Fall in love with alt. Make love to self. Have little altlings. |
| 02:07.25 | plaw | you mean ... rp in goldshire with alt |
| 02:07.27 | Mr_Rabies | venture into the deep regions of space and form an alt colony |
| 02:07.37 | Mr_Rabies | destroy the earth with your death ray |
| 02:08.06 | Mr_Rabies | using the souls of your alts to power it, naturally |
| 02:08.38 | Ivnedar | eventually after many alt generations, your very being has become so corrupted, you become demonic, discover time travel and head for draenor to offer the orcs a gift |
| 02:27.59 | Amarande | heh, pity though ... I don't think WoW characters can have children |
| 02:28.12 | Ivnedar | they come in 2 expansions from now |
| 02:28.13 | Amarande | keep in mind, they're not solid ... this kind of makes certain activities difficult :) |
| 02:28.16 | kd3 | Ok, WTF. queued with a full group. wound up in a half-done burial grounds. Seriously confused here. |
| 02:28.20 | Ivnedar | Semlar has seen the future |
| 02:28.23 | kd3 | Our fifth didn't make it in the instance, we got a random. Never seen this before. |
| 02:28.37 | Semlar | i am the oracle |
| 02:29.09 | Ivnedar | did the 5th time out accepting the instance? |
| 02:29.20 | Semlar | he wasn't in the queue |
| 02:29.40 | Semlar | did he join after you were already in it? |
| 02:29.48 | kd3 | we didn't queue until we had a full party |
| 02:30.14 | Semlar | did you get a roll check for him and everything? |
| 02:30.17 | Semlar | role |
| 02:30.19 | kd3 | ya |
| 02:30.52 | Semlar | i wonder if he declined the enter instance dialog, but i'm pretty sure that stops your entire group |
| 02:31.24 | Semlar | i think i had this happen once to me but i don't remember what caused it |
| 02:33.21 | Semlar | are you sure he set his role in response to the queue and not just from joining the group |
| 02:33.36 | Semlar | because i'm almost positive when it happened to me they had queued and i didn't get the dialog |
| 02:33.39 | phelps | how are the lines on the flight path window drawn ? |
| 02:34.06 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:34.58 | Semlar | DrawRouteLine |
| 02:35.12 | phelps | hmmmm |
| 02:35.31 | Semlar | i use the same function to make outlines on my map |
| 02:35.34 | phelps | so pretty much how its done by other people |
| 02:35.41 | phelps | Routes addon, etc |
| 02:36.09 | Semlar | i don't know, i assume it's magic |
| 02:36.13 | phelps | almost the exact same function, i think routes adds some sanity checks for SetTexCoord |
| 02:36.14 | kd3 | he did set his role in the queue prompt |
| 02:37.21 | Semlar | does deepholm have flight paths |
| 02:37.43 | phelps | i don't remember any |
| 02:37.58 | Semlar | all the flight maps are continents right? |
| 02:38.05 | kd3 | deepholm does not have fps |
| 02:38.10 | kd3 | all flight maps are continents, yes |
| 02:38.19 | kd3 | "flight", including the vashj'ir ones |
| 02:38.24 | Semlar | i'm making an addon to replace the stupid flight frame |
| 02:38.56 | Semlar | to use your world map instead |
| 02:38.59 | Ivnedar | can you get camera facing while out of combat? |
| 02:39.03 | Semlar | no |
| 02:39.29 | Semlar | you can get the character facing |
| 02:40.35 | Ivnedar | I was wondering if it would be possible to decorate the screen while on a flight |
| 02:40.40 | Ivnedar | fly through rings, etc |
| 02:40.55 | Ivnedar | but without camera facing it wouldn't work |
| 02:40.57 | znf | foxlit, in OPie; is there any chance you could add the Ashran items to the default quest ring? |
| 02:41.05 | znf | or can I do it without modifying the code? |
| 02:41.05 | Semlar | well you can but only if the camera is fixed behind the character |
| 02:42.58 | Neffi | you can't get the player/taxi's 3D model to occlude your drawings though |
| 02:43.05 | Neffi | so you cannot make it look like you're flying through a ring |
| 02:43.45 | Semlar | you could draw a fake character model on top of yours but it would be super hard to get right |
| 02:44.01 | Semlar | actually |
| 02:44.02 | Neffi | s/super hard/impossible and this is a terrible idea/ |
| 02:44.05 | Semlar | you can HIDE your character model |
| 02:44.10 | Neffi | wat |
| 02:44.12 | Semlar | i found a cvar for it |
| 02:44.15 | Semlar | it makes you invisible |
| 02:44.20 | Semlar | i don't know what it's for |
| 02:44.21 | Neffi | what even |
| 02:44.36 | Neffi | what a time to be alive |
| 02:44.45 | Semlar | and i don't remember what it was called |
| 02:44.48 | Ivnedar | even better, hide your character, replace it with some random other model, place that above the ring until passing through it then behind |
| 02:45.27 | Ivnedar | and I agree, this is a terrible idea |
| 02:45.37 | Semlar | replace it with a sonic model |
| 02:45.44 | Ivnedar | tis what I was thinking ;) |
| 02:45.47 | Neffi | why tho |
| 02:45.48 | Ivnedar | or mario kart |
| 02:46.02 | Ivnedar | play the sonic ring sound every time you pass through one |
| 02:46.24 | Semlar | i want an addon that makes rings burst out of you every time you die |
| 02:46.37 | Stanzilla | tmorph |
| 02:46.39 | Semlar | this is totally doable |
| 02:46.42 | Ivnedar | communicate with other players' copies of it |
| 02:46.49 | Ivnedar | so the coins can be picked up by other people |
| 02:47.06 | Ivnedar | someone dies, everyone runs over to grab their coins |
| 02:47.11 | Ivnedar | start off an encounter with a fixed amount |
| 02:47.16 | Ivnedar | whoever has the most at the end "wins" |
| 02:47.26 | Ivnedar | totally derail raiding guilds :) |
| 02:47.28 | Neffi | kills Semlar and steals all his rings |
| 02:47.32 | Semlar | dies |
| 02:48.06 | Shirik | someone fix my computer |
| 02:48.12 | Semlar | have you tried turning it off and on again |
| 02:48.22 | Ivnedar | you'd be torn between wanting to be close to "that player" that dies every encounter, and not wanting to be where they are because they're standing in bad |
| 02:51.47 | Amarande | but, but, fire gives you a haste buff! one of our old raid leaders told us that! |
| 02:51.52 | Amarande | (he was joking of course, heh) |
| 02:52.32 | Ivnedar | we had a pair of warriors, one always stood in fire, one always stood in cleave |
| 02:52.53 | Amarande | other fun lies to spread among the raid: glowing patches spawned by the boss are floor markers, they're where you're supposed to stand |
| 02:53.04 | Amarande | wow, now that's just bad |
| 02:53.06 | Amarande | warrior standing in fire |
| 02:53.26 | Ivnedar | pretty sure they couldn't see it, colour or something |
| 02:53.55 | Amarande | one of the few positive aspects of being melee is supposed to be that because you're probably standing right next to the boss, which means you're probably standing right next to the tank, who probably knows where he should be standing and not be standing, which probably means the boss isn't standing in anything that you shouldn't stand in either, which PROBABLY means you shouldn't have to worry about that ... |
| 02:54.24 | Amarande | although, how low does the % get when you use that many "probablys"? |
| 02:54.27 | Amarande | heh |
| 02:55.02 | Amarande | actually, laptop players are a big nemesis of raids for that reason |
| 02:55.26 | Amarande | if you have to use the lowest graphics settings, some stuff doesn't get rendered, and apparently below a certain point that includes fire :| |
| 02:56.01 | Amarande | still, if you're melee, it would seem that most of the time if you're standing in fire that would mean the tank's probably in it too, since you're both right next to the boss |
| 02:56.16 | Amarande | at least assuming you're not fighting something gigantissimo like that bug from HoF (Garalon, right?) |
| 02:57.29 | Amarande | and generally speaking people who can't stop standing in fire are only grudgingly at best admitted as dps players, let alone main tank LOL |
| 02:58.26 | znf | Anyone noticed in the last few days in the mine that carts kind of gone extinct? |
| 02:58.52 | kd3 | they don't seem to be as common as they used to |
| 02:59.09 | Simca_ | i don't know about extinct but they do seem less common |
| 02:59.24 | Simca_ | felt like i used to get nearly 10, now it's like 5-6 |
| 02:59.25 | znf | I had 2 yesterday |
| 02:59.26 | znf | ...2! |
| 02:59.32 | znf | at this reset, 0 |
| 02:59.36 | znf | so did guildies :-| |
| 03:00.03 | Simca_ | they did say they were going to look into nerfing the mine/herb garden if needed |
| 03:01.05 | znf | I really don't understand the point of this mission http://i.imgur.com/NmTUk7m.png |
| 03:01.13 | znf | like, bro, 3 expansions ago! |
| 03:01.20 | Semlar | to buy a mount |
| 03:01.46 | Simca_ | usually you have to kill 80 players in nagrand to get that mount |
| 03:01.52 | Simca_ | do you know how empty nagrand is |
| 03:01.57 | Simca_ | it is hard. |
| 03:01.58 | fewyn | oh shit |
| 03:02.03 | fewyn | that's a real mission? |
| 03:02.06 | Simca_ | yep |
| 03:02.08 | kd3 | yup |
| 03:02.09 | fewyn | god where was this mission ayear ago |
| 03:02.20 | fewyn | where were missions a year ago :( |
| 03:04.36 | znf | I really thought that it was some sort of glitch on the beta when I saw this the first time |
| 03:04.47 | znf | never thought it was going to make it into release :D |
| 03:06.28 | Amarande | fewyn: well, even old (or rather, future) Nagrand has a similar reward |
| 03:06.28 | znf | They *really* buffed the invasion chance |
| 03:06.46 | Amarande | the Halaa mount stuff ... which is also pretty much hopeless to get, because you need the "kill players" tokens |
| 03:06.46 | znf | now everyone is getting them when doing the daily |
| 03:06.52 | fewyn | my entire guild got one today |
| 03:06.56 | znf | yup |
| 03:06.57 | fewyn | after we did the pit |
| 03:07.11 | fewyn | i ended up with a 645 dagger |
| 03:07.14 | kd3 | the 1000 one has been the pit for like 4 straight days on my realm |
| 03:07.15 | fewyn | which made me happy |
| 03:07.16 | Amarande | but hey, get the mount now, I suppose :S |
| 03:07.27 | Amarande | it'll probably be mostly impossible if you don't get it when the expansion is new :( |
| 03:07.36 | kd3 | easy to do solo, getting kinda annoyed at doing the same thing over and over though |
| 03:07.39 | fewyn | Amarande: nah to get all those you needed to kill a couple hundred players at halaa |
| 03:07.40 | Amarande | because PvP seems to follow a very strict regimen of "can't catch up" :( |
| 03:07.44 | fewyn | it's just long and annoying |
| 03:07.54 | znf | kd3, huh? |
| 03:08.02 | znf | kd3, they're not realm specific |
| 03:08.09 | znf | they're the same on all servers |
| 03:08.12 | Amarande | eventually you have the people who got to max level out of the gate and got arena/conquest gear on the double |
| 03:08.21 | Amarande | and people who can't catch up because in order to catch up they basically have to beat said people |
| 03:08.31 | Amarande | which with the gearist nature of PvP in WoW just isn't going to happen ... this isn't Diablo 2 LOL |
| 03:08.32 | znf | kd3, only reason you might get the same selection is if you picked up the quest straight when it reset |
| 03:08.45 | znf | kd3, it seems that the quest resets at 3, but it changes at like 3:05 :D |
| 03:08.48 | znf | or something like that |
| 03:08.58 | znf | So if you go fast, you can get the same one |
| 03:08.59 | znf | Same with CMs |
| 03:09.00 | kd3 | I've been picking it up after noon each day |
| 03:09.09 | Amarande | I wonder if that's one of the big reasons MOBAs have been eating so strongly into the MMO playerbase |
| 03:09.10 | kd3 | so, well past reset time |
| 03:09.19 | znf | They're the same across realms |
| 03:09.29 | fewyn | all dailies are same on all realms i think |
| 03:09.30 | fewyn | yeah |
| 03:09.37 | Amarande | because with MOBAs you can jump in pretty much whenever and stand a chance, once you get over the initial learning curve |
| 03:09.42 | kd3 | so it's been the pit every day for ~4 days now for you too? |
| 03:09.45 | Amarande | with WoW, unless you got in at the beginning of the current expack you're probably boned |
| 03:10.08 | Semlar | can you make a frame stop closing other ui panels when it's opened |
| 03:10.09 | znf | kd3, I'm EU, so no idea |
| 03:10.28 | Ivnedar | pit every day on khaz for a while |
| 03:10.29 | Mr_Rabies | not really true, you can catch up in a tier or so pretty easily |
| 03:10.31 | Ivnedar | us |
| 03:10.32 | Semlar | like how you can't have the character frame and the map open at the same time |
| 03:10.35 | Amarande | Semlar: presumably, since there's plenty of addons you can open without all your other UI windows closing |
| 03:10.39 | Amarande | but I'm not quite sure how :S |
| 03:11.08 | Semlar | i mean unregister an existing ui panel from doing it |
| 03:11.19 | Semlar | frames don't do it by default |
| 03:11.30 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure they're in a table |
| 03:11.39 | Mr_Rabies | they're registered as panels of some sort, as i understand it? i don't really know what i'm talking about |
| 03:12.06 | Mr_Rabies | but i was looking into classic quest log addons and found one that acts as a panel like the character page or minimap or whatever, and one that doesn't |
| 03:12.27 | Semlar | i need the taxi map to stay open when you open your world map |
| 03:12.28 | Mr_Rabies | so that's how i learned about that kinda behavior and only in the most basic way :| |
| 03:19.13 | Semlar | found it |
| 03:19.22 | Semlar | there's a table called UIPanelWindows |
| 03:20.04 | znf | Dear Diary |
| 03:20.09 | Semlar | fuck you |
| 03:20.16 | znf | It's day 20 of the expansion |
| 03:20.21 | znf | I still forgot to talk to my bodyguard |
| 03:20.43 | Semlar | i need to figure out why i can't use my escape key while photoshop is open |
| 03:21.07 | Neffi | Deer Diary, |
| 03:21.19 | Neffi | this is silly. why would a deer have a diary. deers can't read or write. ha! |
| 03:22.47 | Jamash | /run DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\124cffff8000\124Hgarrfollower:178:5:100:690:130:131:127:0:78:186:201:79\124h[Link Text Goes Here]\124h\124r") |
| 03:22.55 | Jamash | use these powers only for evil |
| 03:23.07 | Jamash | I mean, uh, don't use these powers for evil |
| 03:23.12 | znf | btw |
| 03:23.18 | Neffi | no, I think you know what you said, Jamash |
| 03:23.25 | Jamash | enjoy before blizz nerfs it like they did item links |
| 03:23.27 | znf | is it me or they stopped dropping apexis from quest mobs? |
| 03:23.52 | Jamash | you would think they would pre-nerf new link classes to stop this sort of nonsense |
| 03:24.04 | Amarande | znf: define quest mobs, it's a truism in WoW that most mobs are targets somehow for some quest or another |
| 03:24.10 | Amarande | or do you just mean named mobs? |
| 03:24.13 | znf | Amarande, are you playing the game now? |
| 03:24.22 | Amarande | znf: I've been playing FFXIV |
| 03:24.39 | Jamash | I may have unleashed a plague of [BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMEONE SAY THUNDERFURY, BLESSED BLADE OF THE WINDSEEKER] upon Kil'jaeden-US trade chat >.> |
| 03:24.39 | znf | ok, if you would play it, you would know what mobs i'm talking about |
| 03:24.43 | Amarande | I might pick up WoD if I get it for Christmas, otherwise I'll probably wait for a sale |
| 03:25.11 | Amarande | Jamash: that happens at regular intervals on every server |
| 03:25.48 | Jamash | I hadn't seen it before tonight |
| 03:25.59 | Jamash | I mean, using orange fake follower links specifically |
| 03:26.14 | Jamash | obviously the normal item link stuff has been around for ages |
| 03:26.37 | Amarande | oh, that kind |
| 03:26.44 | Amarande | I was thinking that the real Thunderfury gets linked all the time anyway |
| 03:27.03 | Amarande | let's face it ... /2 gets this way because anyone who's in /2 for an extended time is probably bored |
| 03:27.07 | Jamash | yes, yes it does |
| 03:27.17 | znf | Jamash, can't link |
| 03:27.19 | Jamash | I just made it worse :-V |
| 03:27.27 | Amarande | and is probably also pretty much stuck there because of what they're doing or avoiding doing |
| 03:27.52 | Jamash | znf: really? works for me |
| 03:28.11 | znf | 1x SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message |
| 03:28.12 | znf | oh |
| 03:28.13 | znf | WIM |
| 03:28.16 | znf | slaps MysticalOS |
| 03:37.47 | MysticalOS | ? |
| 03:38.01 | MysticalOS | i didn't change anything there. |
| 03:38.11 | MysticalOS | you broke it! |
| 03:38.14 | Ivnedar | Is WIM stopping znf from doing naughty things? |
| 03:38.47 | znf | Ivnedar, yes |
| 03:38.50 | znf | MysticalOS, it's been broken for a while |
| 03:38.54 | znf | someone needs to write a replacement |
| 03:39.51 | Amarande | heh, this is fun ... http://i.imgur.com/IMPYm8f.png :) |
| 03:40.05 | Amarande | should make a card for WoW, too |
| 03:41.17 | Amarande | although I've probably been guilty myself in the past of a couple, particularly "intentionally misspelled knockoff" and "ar'bitrary apos'trophe" |
| 03:42.59 | Jamash | For FFXIV shouldn't every square be "Catgirl with a lewd name"? |
| 03:44.51 | Jamash | I'm certainly not innocent of all of those, given that I have characters named "Morke" (Orc), "Stirenjalavv" (Priest) and "Lun-Chi" (pandaren monk, I swear I didn't know about the NPC of the same name) |
| 03:45.59 | Jamash | but most of mine are lame puns, not references |
| 03:49.25 | Amarande | I think that was FFXI that had the cat girls wasn't it? |
| 03:53.11 | Simca_ | Jamash: my trade chat is infested with it less than 30 minutes after your irc message |
| 03:53.15 | Simca_ | so i'm holding you responsible |
| 03:53.41 | Simca_ | the link text for this one is: http://i.imgur.com/XFILNzx.png |
| 03:54.33 | Simca_ | it's the same follower for the link you made, isn't it? |
| 03:55.47 | MysticalOS | i don't get that error, does it happen when used with another chat mod? wim + prat always seem bad |
| 03:58.22 | znf | MysticalOS, I'm using bcm + wim |
| 04:01.38 | fewyn | replaced my barracks with a war mill on my horde main |
| 04:01.46 | fewyn | ~yay~ |
| 04:21.38 | kd3 | oh gods, the fake follower spam has taken over my realm's /2 |
| 04:22.05 | Semlar | that's what you get for joining trade |
| 04:24.00 | Torhal | trades Semlar for a new follower. |
| 04:24.28 | Semlar | i'm gonna light you up sweetcheeks |
| 04:24.35 | Torhal | :/ |
| 04:25.10 | Amarande | kd3: hey, at least it's something fun that you can read |
| 04:25.14 | Amarande | not like on, say, Illidan's /2 |
| 04:25.47 | Amarande | where half the chatter is in Chinese and all I can seem to make out of it is that it looks like some sort of LFM requests for raid PUGs because I can tell by linked achievements/instances and numbers |
| 04:26.08 | Amarande | or at least it was last time I was on Illidan, I suppose it will be that way again on Tuesday when raids open |
| 04:26.43 | Amarande | (and it bugs me, but that's more because Prat never seems to handle Chinese characters elegantly :() |
| 04:27.01 | MysticalOS | ????????? |
| 04:27.20 | Amarande | like, they tend not to follow the same font settings &c. as the rest of the chat window so it looks all bollixed by comparison |
| 04:27.55 | kd3 | because the font itself is different |
| 04:40.58 | Torhal | ...why is someone asking for non-wow Lua help on WoWI? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=301454#post301454 |
| 04:41.05 | Torhal | headdesks. |
| 04:46.35 | tz | hmmm, is UnitPosition() supposed to return different x/y coords compared to GetPlayerMapPosition()+calculation zone data, or have I screwed up a calculation somewhere? |
| 04:46.36 | nebula169 | someone using corona |
| 04:47.05 | Simca_ | Torhal: you should see the MMO-Champion Contact Us forms. |
| 04:47.22 | Torhal | Ugh |
| 04:47.27 | Simca_ | people have submitted that form thinking we are everything from a banking site to an ice cream store |
| 04:47.32 | Semlar | you screwed up the calculation somewhere tz |
| 04:47.39 | Simca_ | it is astounding |
| 04:47.43 | Torhal | Our customer service gets tickets complaining that the AddOns on SolidIce aren't up to date. |
| 04:47.47 | tz | is not surprised |
| 04:51.21 | Amarande | Simca_: you mean like people going "Dear MMO Champion, can I withdraw $14.99 of your money so I don't have to pay for my MMO this month myself?" :D |
| 04:51.37 | Amarande | (That one must have been popular with TESO ... </lowblow>) |
| 04:51.42 | Simca_ | no i mean like somebody providing all of their bank account information and asking to make a withdrawl |
| 04:57.13 | Amarande | *shakes head* |
| 04:57.32 | Amarande | and yet they manage to boot a computer and, presumably, install and play an MMO |
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| 05:10.13 | Fisker | oh boy Simca_ |
| 05:10.19 | Fisker | A 2-follower garrison resources mission |
| 05:10.23 | Fisker | my scavengers are frothing |
| 05:10.25 | Simca_ | yeaaaaah |
| 05:10.46 | Fisker | 500 resources if I succeed :P |
| 05:10.47 | Simca_ | the fact that that stacks is what is unbalancing garrison resources somewhat lol |
| 05:10.56 | Simca_ | because there are 3-follower versions at ilvl 630 |
| 05:11.05 | Fisker | oh my |
| 05:11.15 | Fisker | sign me up |
| 05:12.22 | tz | I have two 630 resource missions with 175 GR each |
| 05:12.28 | tz | no scavenger followers >_< |
| 05:14.37 | Simca_ | dude |
| 05:14.47 | Simca_ | get an inn right now, upgrade it to level 2 |
| 05:14.54 | Simca_ | use the headhunter to get a scavenger |
| 05:15.07 | Simca_ | then it resets tuesday (like in 24 hours) and then do it again |
| 05:16.23 | tz | already got level 2, needed to get deadly minions and magic debuff before anything else |
| 05:21.21 | Simca_ | anyone know why sometimes you can complete bonus objectives at the level 100 areas that give you 800 crystals WITHOUT having the daily? |
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| 05:32.02 | xyphoid | neat i just got an abrogator stone from a mine work order |
| 05:32.05 | xyphoid | no follower assigned |
| 05:32.12 | nebula169 | yea, it happens |
| 05:33.48 | Mr_Rabies | got one from an engie one |
| 05:33.56 | Mr_Rabies | also got my bonus roll seal from my bunker :v |
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| 05:45.56 | tz | grrr, why can't /dump do things alphabetically |
| 05:48.10 | Mr_Rabies | it's a dump, not an organized arrangement! |
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| 06:04.54 | Neffi | no Semlar |
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| 06:05.29 | Semlar | :( |
| 06:05.47 | Neffi | oh now I feel bad |
| 06:05.51 | Neffi | ok, Semlar, yes |
| 06:05.58 | Semlar | :) |
| 06:25.13 | Torhal | Damn it, Neffi - making Semlar feel bad was a bonus objective. |
| 06:29.51 | Gethe | mah XP!! D: |
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| 06:34.42 | Neffi | releases the Jabberwock on Torhal |
| 06:35.04 | Torhal | vorpal blades it. |
| 06:35.49 | Neffi | you win |
| 06:35.55 | Neffi | :D |
| 06:36.11 | Neffi | I wonder where the hell my nice copies of those books went. I really wanna read 'em again. |
| 06:37.35 | Neffi | Semlar probably stole 'em |
| 06:42.24 | Semlar | :( |
| 06:48.28 | nebula169 | IEEU fires when you get/release your bodyguard does the default ui give you a boss frame for it? |
| 06:49.48 | nevcairiel | no |
| 06:49.55 | nevcairiel | although that would be nice |
| 06:50.09 | nebula169 | yea, i always focus mine so i know where the fuck it ran off to |
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| 07:13.25 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/tonyarnold/status/539239506906320896 |
| 07:13.27 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 07:15.22 | Fisker | throws bluspacecow into space |
| 07:15.34 | bluspacecow | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 07:21.20 | bluspacecow | https://twitter.com/teilweise/status/539208445027971073 |
| 07:21.38 | bluspacecow | lady programmer pwns guy |
| 07:22.30 | znf | ...anyone has a pandaren follower?! |
| 07:22.51 | bluspacecow | not I ddday-yo |
| 07:23.02 | bluspacecow | *daddy-yo |
| 07:23.18 | znf | do they actually exist?! |
| 07:23.33 | nevcairiel | over the Inn at the very least |
| 07:23.39 | znf | wonders what good is "Brew Aficionado" |
| 07:23.49 | bluspacecow | *pokes wowhead with a /follower URL* |
| 07:24.53 | znf | http://www.wowhead.com/follower=440.2/xen-barleystrike |
| 07:25.01 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/follower=298.1/fen-cinderpaw |
| 07:25.14 | znf | http://www.wowhead.com/follower=451.2/nuan-skydream |
| 07:25.59 | znf | what a useless trait :-/ |
| 07:26.02 | znf | I have 2 goblins with it :( |
| 07:26.16 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/follower=193.1/tormmok#screenshots:id=418224 |
| 07:26.31 | znf | oh wait |
| 07:26.33 | nevcairiel | tormmok is not a panda :p |
| 07:26.34 | znf | I have _4_ of them |
| 07:26.36 | nevcairiel | he is an ogre |
| 07:26.37 | znf | bluspacecow, that's an ogre |
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| 07:26.43 | bluspacecow | but hes panda shaped :( |
| 07:26.55 | nevcairiel | i have zero pandas |
| 07:27.05 | bluspacecow | oh wait |
| 07:27.12 | bluspacecow | no panda furs. orgre boobies |
| 07:27.16 | znf | I mean I have 4 followers with the panda trait :-| |
| 07:27.33 | nevcairiel | i have 2 |
| 07:27.59 | znf | I don't suppose I can search for a panda with the inn... |
| 07:28.08 | nevcairiel | i think you can |
| 07:28.27 | znf | thought it was trait and ability? |
| 07:28.34 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/follower=119.1 |
| 07:29.24 | bluspacecow | too bad thereâs not a race = panda filter on wowheadâs follower list. Iâm having to go through and look at portraits in their listing. |
| 07:31.50 | znf | well, you can stop :P |
| 07:31.54 | znf | there are panda followers |
| 07:31.56 | znf | but only at the inn |
| 07:31.57 | znf | got it |
| 07:33.20 | Fisker | Barracks need to like double the amount of followers you can have active |
| 07:33.44 | bluspacecow | but i found 10 moah |
| 07:33.45 | bluspacecow | odd |
| 07:33.48 | nevcairiel | with the low number of missions you seem to get once you are done leveling your followers, 25 seems plenty |
| 07:33.52 | bluspacecow | does alliance not get epic followers ? |
| 07:33.54 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 07:33.59 | Fisker | they need to up the amount of missions too |
| 07:33.59 | Fisker | :P |
| 07:34.25 | Fisker | and give us the exp share item from pokemans |
| 07:34.54 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/follower=282.1/trapper-huong#screenshots:id=429865 |
| 07:34.57 | bluspacecow | canât tell if panda |
| 07:34.59 | Fisker | lets see if I get 500 garrison resources in half an hour |
| 07:35.18 | nevcairiel | bluspacecow: he has paws |
| 07:35.22 | bluspacecow | *mails fisker 500* |
| 07:35.45 | Fisker | no bluspacecow |
| 07:35.58 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 07:36.01 | bluspacecow | meany |
| 07:36.05 | Fisker | nope |
| 07:36.10 | znf | something keeps breaking my f* tab key |
| 07:36.19 | znf | when I join ashran |
| 07:36.21 | Ivnedar | if you send more than one resource tripler, does it stack? |
| 07:36.22 | znf | I can't tab-target anymore |
| 07:36.24 | znf | Ivnedar, yes |
| 07:36.37 | Fisker | only the base amount though |
| 07:36.39 | Ivnedar | there ya go then, go on a 120 resource mission with 3 of those |
| 07:37.03 | znf | yes, it's additive |
| 07:37.06 | Fisker | so a 100 resource mission with 2 followers nets you 500, not 1200 :P |
| 07:37.14 | znf | that's still a lot :D |
| 07:37.17 | Fisker | Yep |
| 07:38.13 | Ivnedar | you only wanted 500 :) |
| 07:38.56 | Fisker | I want 1200 so I can upgrade my barracks |
| 07:41.12 | znf | I kind of reached the point where I don't need many resources :D |
| 07:43.02 | sb | then get a trading post and convert them into something useful :D |
| 07:43.32 | sb | also you need 6 * 20 for warmill / day!? |
| 07:48.10 | nevcairiel | doesnt your cache alone produce enough for the warmill? |
| 07:48.32 | sb | uhm |
| 07:48.48 | sb | 6 / hour, so its 24 / WO |
| 07:48.49 | sb | and you need 20 |
| 07:48.51 | sb | right... :D |
| 07:49.09 | nevcairiel | i also just fill up the trading post when it wants ore, since i swim in ore |
| 07:52.02 | sb | yup |
| 07:54.29 | bluspacecow | when do garrison mine/herb garden nodes respawn ? |
| 07:54.49 | sb | daily reset |
| 07:55.16 | bluspacecow | what times that ? |
| 07:55.22 | sb | i think 4 am |
| 07:55.26 | nevcairiel | 3am |
| 07:55.30 | bluspacecow | server? or PST ? |
| 07:55.34 | sb | oh, right, i have no idea if my reset code works :o |
| 07:55.43 | sb | we only have one timezone in germany!!11 :D |
| 07:55.44 | nevcairiel | who knows, american servers are weird |
| 07:55.56 | sb | so no idea :/ |
| 07:56.30 | Fisker | I believe all non-oceanic resets according to PST |
| 07:56.34 | Fisker | dunno about oceanic |
| 07:56.37 | bluspacecow | nevcairiel: what server you on ? |
| 07:56.39 | Fisker | move to aussie already |
| 07:56.53 | Ivnedar | oceanics are 3am sydney time |
| 07:56.56 | sb | bluspacecow: try /dump _G.GetQuestResetTime() + time() |
| 07:57.27 | bluspacecow | 1417431601 |
| 07:57.28 | Ivnedar | for dailies/garden/mine |
| 07:57.32 | sb | errr |
| 07:57.32 | sb | wait |
| 07:57.33 | Ivnedar | and 10pm for profession cooldowns |
| 07:57.36 | sb | only _G.GetQuestResetTime() :D |
| 07:57.38 | bluspacecow | im on Muradin btw |
| 07:57.40 | sb | next reset in seconds |
| 07:58.24 | bluspacecow | 10936 |
| 07:58.38 | Ivnedar | 28938 :D |
| 07:58.45 | sb | so in 3 hours :D |
| 07:59.54 | Ivnedar | ahh, so oceanic profession cooldowns line up with us reset? |
| 08:00.05 | bluspacecow | not on an oceanic realm |
| 08:00.43 | bluspacecow | i mean im not on an oceanic realm rather |
| 08:01.13 | Ivnedar | Your daily reset lines up with my profession reset |
| 08:01.56 | Fisker | soon the happening will begin |
| 08:02.00 | Fisker | and Blizzard will shit on my RNG |
| 08:02.13 | Fisker | "Oh so you have a 75% chance, well let me ruin that for you" |
| 08:03.05 | Ivnedar | "We've decided to force everyone's rng to a bell curve. If you've been on good run so far, sucks to be you" |
| 08:07.44 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/WNCCifz.png |
| 08:07.45 | Fisker | yeeeeeeeeees |
| 08:08.01 | Ivnedar | score! :D |
| 08:17.12 | karl_w_w | I don't know about you guys but I find the garrison a very lonely place |
| 08:20.26 | bluspacecow | *invades karl_w_wâs garrison* |
| 08:21.34 | karl_w_w | thanks bluspacecow, I knew I could rely on you <3 |
| 08:28.46 | karl_w_w | http://www.newegg.com/amdredzone <- their message: buy AMD products from us and you too can enter uncanny valley |
| 08:29.26 | Fisker | I hate that site karl_w_w |
| 08:29.42 | Fisker | "Hey look at how better our APU's are than Intel's up to 400%" |
| 08:30.01 | Fisker | "Oh and here are the CPU's you actually want to buy, we won't be posting any stats of those, because you know they don't matter" |
| 08:34.38 | karl_w_w | I don't really know what you're complaining about, but it's entertaining nonetheless :D |
| 08:35.25 | Fisker | the graph |
| 08:35.46 | Fisker | They're trying to sell their desktop cpu's on the merits of their apu's |
| 08:36.10 | Primer | Isn't that the convenience store clerk in the Simpsons? |
| 08:36.23 | Fisker | it can be |
| 08:37.26 | karl_w_w | yes Fisker, companies try to sell their products based on their biggest competitive advantage |
| 08:37.45 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (~stolenleg@unaffiliated/stolenlegacy) |
| 08:38.41 | Fisker | Yeah, that's not what they're doing though |
| 08:38.55 | Fisker | They're selling Product B by showing how good Product A is |
| 08:39.42 | Fisker | Companies do that as well, but it's still dumb |
| 08:44.41 | karl_w_w | i wish i knew what addon was tainting the quest tracker |
| 08:52.09 | Semlar | all of them |
| 08:53.01 | karl_w_w | well one of them makes it sometimes impossible to use quest items |
| 09:04.21 | znf | nice, Blizzard https://gfycat.com/RipeKeenIrishwaterspaniel |
| 09:05.12 | nevcairiel | quite likely one of your addons broke something :P |
| 09:05.28 | znf | doubt it |
| 09:05.38 | znf | it happens when I check the combat log |
| 09:05.41 | znf | and only in ashran |
| 09:05.56 | mikma | in town or in the wild |
| 09:06.05 | znf | in the pvp area, so I guess in the wild? :P |
| 09:06.07 | znf | not warspear |
| 09:07.43 | znf | I think the biggest change to this expansion is... the fact that you can move raid groups in combat :D |
| 09:21.41 | Maldivia | And just so you all remember, today is World AIDS Day -- http://www.who.int/campaigns/aids-day/2014/en/ |
| 09:22.07 | Semlar | i don't know what to do with this information |
| 09:22.19 | mikma | start spreading |
| 09:22.47 | Xuerian | snrk |
| 09:23.37 | karl_w_w | I don't think AIDS is something to be celebrated to be honest |
| 09:28.12 | Maldivia | shouldn't be celebrated, but information and awareness is important, as well as resources to fight it, and that is why there is a world aids day, to keep people aware that HIV still exists, and while it's not a death-sentence anymore thanks to the medical breakthroughs done in the last 25 years, there is still a way to go |
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| 09:51.39 | Semlar | WARNING: Your Big Wigs is over 120 revisions out of date!! |
| 09:51.53 | Semlar | good |
| 09:55.07 | Gnarfoz | FiskerBarracks need to like double the amount of followers you can have active <-- I concur |
| 09:56.02 | Fisker | good |
| 09:57.09 | Gnarfoz | let's make tomorrow "world increase follower limit day" |
| 09:57.15 | Gnarfoz | you can pick the colour of our ribbon |
| 09:59.08 | sb | Semlar: speaking of "out of date", can i has updated vignette tracker please? :( |
| 09:59.09 | karl_w_w | I afked and drowned to death |
| 09:59.14 | karl_w_w | at the surface of a lake |
| 09:59.25 | karl_w_w | I guess your characters lose consciousness when you afk |
| 09:59.51 | Constie | Should've been Undead. |
| 09:59.53 | Gnarfoz | in reality, it was you who lost consciousness |
| 10:00.37 | Semlar | no updates! |
| 10:06.58 | Constie | 99/100 pieces of salvage opened and the last three missions didn't give any. I'm so mad. |
| 10:23.46 | Mr_Rabies | 2mad |
| 10:23.58 | Mr_Rabies | who runs altoholic here? trying to remember how to have it link connected realms properly |
| 10:27.14 | karl_w_w | i just won a 33% mission chance -_- |
| 10:30.18 | karl_w_w | oh my gosh the new steamy romance novel comes with illustration! |
| 10:31.38 | Mr_Rabies | all of them have them now |
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| 10:34.15 | Mr_Rabies | the new one's is hilarious though |
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| 10:52.51 | znf | So, who said that Counter Spell / Powerful Spell has a lower contribution to the mission than other abilities/counter? |
| 10:53.47 | Gnarfoz | someone insane? |
| 10:54.22 | Maldivia | karl_w_w: well, you had a 1 in 3 chance to win it :) |
| 10:54.31 | Maldivia | karl_w_w: I lost a 99% yesteday though :/ |
| 10:54.44 | Mr_Rabies | i lost a 98% for a 645 neck |
| 10:54.47 | Mr_Rabies | feels bad man :( |
| 10:55.10 | Gnarfoz | .jpg |
| 10:55.35 | znf | Mr_Rabies, now you scared me... |
| 10:55.39 | znf | I have this mission at 98%... |
| 10:55.40 | znf | erm |
| 10:55.41 | znf | 80% |
| 10:55.43 | znf | for 645 weapon |
| 10:55.46 | Gnarfoz | got my 3rd 645 piece from missions now, I'm fine :D |
| 10:56.18 | Fisker | I did it at less znf :P |
| 10:56.23 | Fisker | also fu Gnarfoz :( |
| 10:56.25 | Fisker | I want that |
| 10:57.51 | Mr_Rabies | 80% to pass is still 1:5 chance to fail |
| 11:06.15 | Mr_Rabies | just had to go in and delete a bunch of saved variables stuff manually for postal since i couldn't figure out how to delete alts from other servers that don't exist anymore, etc, lets see how that went :v |
| 11:07.14 | Mr_Rabies | manually messing around with saved variables is new to me, but thank goodness for notepad++ |
| 11:09.24 | znf | Semlar, you think I can get more than 80% if I gets the cows level to 630? http://i.imgur.com/OduSAc9.png |
| 11:10.34 | Semlar | maybe, i upgraded a 607 to a 615 and it made a huge difference in the success chance for a 615 mission |
| 11:10.50 | znf | I have 80% if I go with 3 follower 630 but no taunt |
| 11:12.06 | Semlar | i don't really know how it's calculated |
| 11:12.49 | Semlar | i assume the success chance would go over 80 if you get 80 without a counter and you raise your counter to the right level |
| 11:13.22 | znf | I also have the totemist perk |
| 11:14.09 | Gnarfoz | semlar: ilvl works just like level |
| 11:14.26 | Gnarfoz | so, no surprise that bringing a follower up to the minimum required for a mission helps out bigtime :D |
| 11:19.17 | znf | really annoying, I want ilvl stuff, I haven't got any all morning :D |
| 11:22.05 | sb | so the mission rewards |
| 11:22.14 | sb | are they based on player or follower ilvl? |
| 11:22.33 | sb | (player items) |
| 11:22.52 | znf | follower |
| 11:22.57 | znf | or, rather, mission ilvl |
| 11:23.06 | sb | so if you have 630 followers you get higher mission ilvl and better rewards |
| 11:23.16 | sb | and i guess there are breakpoints for this |
| 11:23.32 | znf | you have 615 followers -> 615 max mission |
| 11:23.38 | znf | 630 followers -> 630 max missions |
| 11:23.41 | nevcairiel | the missions always reward for one tier higher than they are, so a 630 mission yields 645 gear |
| 11:23.42 | znf | 645+ -> 645 missions |
| 11:23.47 | znf | that too |
| 11:23.57 | sb | okay |
| 11:24.22 | nevcairiel | i got my first 645 epic mission yesterday, and its for a slot where i already have 640 CM |
| 11:24.23 | nevcairiel | so meh! |
| 11:24.45 | znf | I got weapon :-S |
| 11:24.50 | znf | so I really want to do it 100% :D |
| 11:24.54 | znf | also have CM in it, but... |
| 11:25.36 | nevcairiel | i can probably do it 100% once my guys are back from missions |
| 11:26.09 | nevcairiel | got one more follower to epic this morning as well |
| 11:38.07 | Gnarfoz | I'm ready to push across the 645 boundary, but Blizz seems to have nerfed the item upgrade drop rate (or I'm just unlucky) |
| 11:38.41 | Gnarfoz | got several ~640 epic guys ready to go... perhaps I should push them a bit closer to the edge first, though, 644 or so ^^ |
| 11:38.52 | Gnarfoz | no point in unlocking 645 missions with just one follower at that ilvl |
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| 11:40.42 | mikma | foxlit: 7x MasterPlan\GarrisonMissions.lua:727: attempt to compare nil with number -> so, i did a wormhole from garrison to pandaria and that happened |
| 11:41.14 | Gnarfoz | you... broek it? |
| 11:41.50 | mikma | awwww yisssss |
| 11:41.57 | mikma | motherfucking masterplan |
| 11:44.42 | Gnarfoz | Masterplan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho9pnG3OCPs |
| 11:47.49 | sb | ugh, its dec. already |
| 11:48.04 | Alram | starts playing christmas songs |
| 11:48.29 | mikma | falalalal la. |
| 11:53.01 | Arrowmaster | farararar ra. |
| 11:57.01 | Gnarfoz | sb: yep, scary |
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| 12:14.08 | Ssateneth | I don't suppose anyone knows of an addon that monitors and measures what addons are producing a lot of network traffic and how much? |
| 12:14.24 | Ssateneth | I get DC'd a LOT in raids and found the more addons I disable, the less I'm DC'd |
| 12:19.06 | mikma | well tbh, addon's don't do that much network traffic, it's been prevented |
| 12:24.00 | Gnarfoz | there's addons like that, though |
| 12:24.14 | Gnarfoz | (but I can't recall a specific name atm) |
| 12:25.11 | tz | carbonite used to be problematic in that respect |
| 12:25.21 | tz | not really to the point of saturating network links or anything |
| 12:25.39 | tz | but the data transfer was orders of magnitude higher than any other addon I ever saw |
| 12:25.42 | Gnarfoz | I doubt it's because of the network traffic, tho |
| 12:25.50 | tz | same |
| 12:36.01 | mikma | but blizz did prevent that |
| 12:36.17 | mikma | it's like x messages/minute now |
| 12:51.40 | Ssateneth | Hmm, wonder why I get disconnected often then... |
| 12:52.01 | Ssateneth | It happened rarely in normal SoO (after 6.0) |
| 12:52.13 | Ssateneth | But it happpened a TON more in MC when the raid had 40 people |
| 12:53.12 | Ssateneth | Gnarfoz if you figure out an addon message profiling addon, let me know. |
| 12:54.20 | karl_w_w | this is some sci-fi shit, right? "Up to 30% of people have a second spleen (called an accessory spleen). These are usually very small, but may grow and function when the main spleen is removed. Rarely, a piece of the spleen may break off with trauma, such as after a car accident. If the spleen is removed, this piece can grow and function." |
| 13:05.28 | Gnarfoz | ssateneth: http://www.wowace.com/addons/spamalyzer/ by Torhal is probably what you want, also, http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/snoop |
| 13:05.56 | Fisker | I want Torhal to analyze my spam |
| 13:07.01 | znf | I'm bored https://gfycat.com/EdibleRawAmazondolphin |
| 13:07.01 | znf | :D |
| 13:08.31 | rid_ | :) |
| 13:10.15 | Ssateneth | Gnarfoz thanks, i'll see what I can do :) |
| 13:11.09 | Ssateneth | Also getting disconnected when doing a GetAll for auctions. z_z |
| 13:11.36 | Fisker | starts picking up speed |
| 13:11.39 | Gnarfoz | remove the addon that is doing too much processing |
| 13:11.42 | Gnarfoz | or get a faster CPU |
| 13:12.56 | Fisker | reaches speeds up to mach 1 |
| 13:14.02 | Ssateneth | I have an i7-5960X, it doesn't get faster than that! D: |
| 13:14.38 | Fisker | reaches the speed of light |
| 13:16.23 | Fisker | dives in for a FTL-tackle |
| 13:16.29 | Ssateneth | that escalated quickly |
| 13:16.39 | Fisker | Wait for it |
| 13:19.15 | Gnarfoz | i7-4790K disagrees |
| 13:19.27 | Gnarfoz | but yeah, yours also should be fast enough ;p |
| 13:29.31 | Gnarfoz | I like https://mediacru.sh/Sq6gogdNbtqZ |
| 13:30.33 | Fisker | very nice |
| 13:37.35 | mikma | holy butthurt that's nice |
| 13:38.45 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/item=69863#comments |
| 13:39.02 | mikma | that's awesome, you can wear a stack of 20 of those necklaces :D |
| 13:39.17 | mikma | BLING BLING |
| 13:41.45 | VIad | foxlit: the garrison thing for followers would be nice in the innkeeper frame for picking a new follower |
| 13:41.59 | VIad | i.e. some math to say "this one is worth it based on stuff you don't already have" or something |
| 13:45.57 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y78crvRirAI |
| 13:46.44 | mikma | [15:46:27] Your skill in Fishing has increased to 666. |
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| 14:06.47 | mikma | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1246820613/blood-sport-the-ultimate-in-immersive-gaming?ref=category |
| 14:06.54 | mikma | oh my ... lawl. retards. |
| 14:07.27 | mikma | that would really ... suck... for beginners |
| 14:07.30 | mikma | they would literally die |
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| 14:27.39 | Industrial | They should invent that stabyouinthefaceovertheinternet machine |
| 14:27.42 | Industrial | and give it to me |
| 14:30.29 | mikma | that would just mean you would stab yourself to the face over and over and over again |
| 14:36.05 | bluspacecow | ..... |
| 14:36.13 | bluspacecow | one of my followers is a subtly rogue |
| 14:36.16 | bluspacecow | with a giant axe |
| 14:36.21 | bluspacecow | oh the irony! |
| 14:36.39 | nevcairiel | is he also a tauren? |
| 14:36.51 | bluspacecow | human female |
| 14:36.54 | bluspacecow | shelly hamby |
| 14:37.00 | Industrial | rustling taurens in the dark :P |
| 14:37.09 | Industrial | with axes. |
| 14:37.15 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.57 | Industrial | ticklish |
| 14:39.28 | bluspacecow | oh goody! my auctions are selling |
| 14:39.43 | bluspacecow | 5/435 sold so far |
| 14:39.48 | nevcairiel | foxlit: masterplan offers me two choices with identical success and identical followers in them for this mission, that doesn't seem proper |
| 14:44.39 | Thunder_Child | Does the level of the follower matter when assigning them to a building? |
| 14:44.45 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 14:45.01 | Thunder_Child | Is there a calculated number? |
| 14:45.14 | Thunder_Child | ie. how much do I lose out from 99 to 100. |
| 14:45.27 | nevcairiel | higher levels have a higher influence on the work order bonus, ie. for profession buildings, only a level 100 follower will yield 2 items with every work order |
| 14:45.29 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 14:45.52 | Thunder_Child | Obviously I lose out on an item. |
| 14:46.02 | mikma | bluspacecow: nothing says more than a huge axe in the back |
| 14:46.27 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.29 | Arrowmaster | haha just had a good laugh with one of my recruiters talking about if i could pass a hair follicle drug test |
| 14:48.06 | Thunder_Child | Depends on which drug. |
| 14:48.16 | nevcairiel | foxlit: also, http://pastebin.com/YAKV5g6M |
| 14:48.20 | Arrowmaster | the only questionable one |
| 14:48.30 | Arrowmaster | thats legal in some states |
| 14:48.42 | Thunder_Child | I think you mean illegal supstance. |
| 14:48.46 | Thunder_Child | substance* |
| 14:48.51 | bluspacecow | Honest Jim come through for me :P |
| 14:49.16 | bluspacecow | Inactive Apexis guardian = yes please |
| 14:49.27 | Arrowmaster | he asked how long my hair was |
| 14:49.41 | bluspacecow | Torhal he asked âare you jesus?â |
| 14:49.54 | nevcairiel | they should finally restore the GR drop from honest jim, and jus ban everyone that exploits him |
| 14:50.05 | bluspacecow | GR drop ? |
| 14:50.24 | Arrowmaster | i havent seen her in a few months but a girl at a club i used to goto kept calling me jesus |
| 14:50.44 | nevcairiel | he used to sell a box with GR in it, but people found out how to exploit him and reset his cooldown, so blizzard had to remove it |
| 14:51.10 | Arrowmaster | if they didnt cancel the halloween party i thought about basing my costume on one of her fantasies |
| 14:51.20 | bluspacecow | GR ? |
| 14:51.46 | nevcairiel | garrision resources |
| 14:51.46 | bluspacecow | great rectangle! people are awed by its power ! |
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| 14:52.11 | mikma | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQj48BZ2VQc |
| 14:52.27 | mikma | military trainings happening at my hometown |
| 15:13.13 | Dagmar | heh. PA noticed |
| 15:13.31 | Gnarfoz | anyone good with corosync? |
| 15:14.23 | karl_w_w | wowhead likes to ensure it's heard http://i.imgur.com/5yq0qOy.png |
| 15:18.13 | Dagmar | heh |
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| 15:34.06 | Dagmar | John J. Keeshan needs to fuck off already. |
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| 15:48.52 | jleclanche | Shadowed: is it possible to have SUF frames not go over the raid "drawer" on the left? |
| 15:50.15 | karl_w_w | wall climbing makes you DC often |
| 15:56.37 | foxlit | nevcairiel: it really doesn't. Are they under separate headers or something? |
| 15:56.50 | nevcairiel | foxlit: headers? |
| 15:57.34 | foxlit | screenshot, basically. |
| 15:59.17 | foxlit | (the non-clickable things that separate multiple group types; it's conceivable that group completion might offer you the same choice as the premades) |
| 16:05.09 | nevcairiel | i think i started the missions now, will have a look out for the next time |
| 16:06.14 | foxlit | "error on login" tickets are annoying given that the addon is LoD. |
| 16:06.43 | foxlit | "how to reproduce? 1. Log in." << yeah, that'll totally work. |
| 16:09.50 | nevcairiel | i also get the number with nil sometimes else, just now i ported into a leaders garrision for an invasion, and the error comes up |
| 16:11.10 | foxlit | yeah, I'm basically only complaining that someone somewhere is doing LoadAddOn("Blizzard_GarrisonUI") |
| 16:11.15 | Dagmar | It occurs to me that Moroes quest text is actually talkign about the players. |
| 16:11.20 | Dagmar | I almost feel bad about that. |
| 16:12.31 | foxlit | basically, client flushes mission data during an instance transition, then fires a gazillion events to give it back piece-wise. |
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| 16:36.16 | karl_w_w | god dammit |
| 16:36.53 | karl_w_w | i got a warforged item ilvl 636 to replace a 630 and i thought that might be enough to push me over from 634 to 635 average |
| 16:36.55 | karl_w_w | but no |
| 16:37.10 | karl_w_w | such short-lived hope |
| 16:46.58 | Dagmar | Damn they really took the afternoon off when it came to trinkets |
| 16:48.30 | karl_w_w | they were probably busy playing hearthstone and overwatch |
| 16:49.14 | Dagmar | Could be. I just got around to seeing where I needed to flog to get rid of my green trinket and wow. Two raids, a dodgy zone drop from UBRS, and three from follower missions |
| 16:49.41 | Dagmar | Two raids which I believe aren't available until Tuesday even |
| 16:50.28 | Dagmar | I'm glad I made sure I had 100% success rate on that follower mission |
| 17:03.30 | foxlit | well, that's a first. queued for lfr as tank/damage, got damage. |
| 17:05.14 | bluspacecow | Getting this : http://pastebin.com/BekUFBDs on zoning and also when garrison quests complete toasts come up. Masteplan version 0.10 |
| 17:06.35 | karl_w_w | stop trying to compare something to nothing then, bluspacecow |
| 17:06.58 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 17:07.01 | bluspacecow | BRB |
| 17:16.02 | g0urra | http://puu.sh/dcR1v/f8d10240cc.jpg |
| 17:19.19 | foxlit | bluspacecow: yes; it's cosmetic. |
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| 17:23.42 | A-KO|tablet | So how do the armor set previews work on mmo-champion for tier sets? O.o |
| 17:23.47 | A-KO|tablet | there's LFR, Normal, Heroic, Mythic... |
| 17:23.51 | A-KO|tablet | are LFR and Normal sharing a look? |
| 17:25.47 | nevcairiel | no |
| 17:26.01 | nevcairiel | LFR has its own |
| 17:38.52 | Ssateneth | LFR has its own models, normal and heroic have their own models, and mythic gets their own model |
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| 17:41.25 | Stanzilla | mythic just gets it's own color |
| 17:41.26 | Stanzilla | not model |
| 17:41.50 | Simca_ | no, they have unique models too |
| 17:41.53 | nevcairiel | as long as normal and heroic share the same color, its always annoying to get a full set for transmog when its all mixed up |
| 17:41.57 | Simca_ | at least for helmet, shoulders, and belt |
| 17:42.11 | Stanzilla | looked the same on their preview |
| 17:42.13 | Simca_ | nevcairiel: they don't :< |
| 17:42.26 | Simca_ | look at DK tier Stanzilla, that's a good example |
| 17:42.33 | jnwhiteh | Semlar: is there an easy way to get the players corpse location without having to iterate various zoom levels>? |
| 17:42.40 | Stanzilla | https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_folder_media/5MTL07CXZVMR1416506455536.jpg |
| 17:42.43 | Simca_ | normal/heroic looks goofy as hell, mythic is beyond badass |
| 17:42.51 | Stanzilla | left is mythic? |
| 17:43.02 | Simca_ | yes |
| 17:43.04 | Stanzilla | ok I never noticed |
| 17:43.05 | nevcairiel | the mythic head looks terrible |
| 17:43.21 | Simca_ | i like it; it's very unique |
| 17:43.23 | Ressy | uhh... So if a Blizzard GM messages you.. don't automatically believe its a Blizzard rep. |
| 17:43.26 | Ressy | https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2nxz00/psa_in_game_exploit_has_been_discovered_that_lets/ |
| 17:43.39 | nevcairiel | dont actually believe what you read on reddit either |
| 17:44.05 | Simca_ | it's an extension of what people discovered last night about follower links |
| 17:44.33 | Ressy | They were making follower links Thunderfury 2 days ago. |
| 17:45.02 | Simca_ | recently* then |
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| 17:45.21 | Simca_ | tldr follower link text parsing is SO BAD that it actually will parse icon strings. |
| 17:45.36 | Fisker | good |
| 17:46.02 | Fisker | maybe they'll hire competent UI folks again? :P |
| 17:46.28 | Ssateneth | Ressy I cant see the picture |
| 17:46.32 | Ssateneth | can you link the picture? |
| 17:46.41 | Fisker | It's just a whisper with the GM icon |
| 17:46.48 | Ssateneth | Ah never mind |
| 17:46.56 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/WvNptgA.png |
| 17:47.49 | Stanzilla | elite account aquired |
| 17:48.43 | Stanzilla | or actually person with elite account |
| 17:49.00 | Stanzilla | Simca_ probably already knows how it works and I'm wasting my time |
| 17:49.12 | Alram | its pretty easy to spot |
| 17:49.22 | Alram | im not sure its actually faking people into believing it |
| 17:49.32 | Stanzilla | well |
| 17:49.36 | Stanzilla | details then, Alram |
| 17:49.45 | Alram | im not going to share details on an exploit Stanzilla |
| 17:49.51 | Stanzilla | =( |
| 17:49.51 | Fisker | blizz icons are before the name? |
| 17:49.52 | Alram | that is a bad irc in a public irc channel |
| 17:50.02 | mikma | jnwhiteh: it's quite funny how basicly *everyone* asks semlar about maps :D |
| 17:50.23 | Simca_ | Stanzilla: somebody with an elite account said 'follower links'; that was enough for me to figure out they're parsing icon strings, and that's really all i wanted to know about it |
| 17:50.40 | jleclanche | a 630 ilvl mission which gives 15k xp |
| 17:50.43 | jleclanche | so fucking useless |
| 17:53.36 | mikma | g0urra: lolz! |
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| 17:56.23 | Stanzilla | looks fixed anyway |
| 17:56.24 | Stanzilla | just tried it |
| 17:57.09 | Ssateneth | lmao |
| 17:57.12 | Stanzilla | x SendChatMessage(): Invalid escape code in chat message |
| 17:57.27 | VIad | you can skip so much with the http://www.wowhead.com/item=119093 |
| 17:57.32 | mikma | stanzilla: seems like it was fixed 15mins~ ago |
| 17:57.38 | Constie | Best item. |
| 17:57.41 | Ssateneth | Someone just posted in trade chat [{BlizzIcon} Your account will be suspended in 5 minutes. Please log into battle.net.] |
| 17:57.50 | Stanzilla | mikma: oh, did they post about it? |
| 17:57.53 | Alram | that might just be the format its copy pasted in Stanzilla |
| 17:57.55 | Alram | also https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2nxz00/psa_in_game_exploit_has_been_discovered_that_lets/cmi0voi?context=3 |
| 17:58.00 | Constie | You can use it while already in the air, too, like after using the Draenor engineering wormhole. |
| 17:58.53 | VIad | you can edit the follower links |
| 17:58.56 | VIad | their name isn't checked |
| 17:58.58 | Stanzilla | not anymore |
| 17:59.02 | Stanzilla | try it |
| 17:59.04 | VIad | fine but |
| 17:59.06 | VIad | you could |
| 17:59.08 | VIad | for a while :p |
| 17:59.10 | VIad | since beta |
| 17:59.24 | VIad | only way to fix a bug is to make everyone use it THEN they fix it within 1 day |
| 17:59.42 | bluspacecow | except for the mac |
| 17:59.53 | bluspacecow | where theyâre so short staffed bugs dont fixed for months ! |
| 18:00.13 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1417456811.png |
| 18:00.18 | mikma | stanzilla: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2nxz00/psa_in_game_exploit_has_been_discovered_that_lets/cmi0voi |
| 18:00.28 | mikma | stanzilla: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/2nxz00/psa_in_game_exploit_has_been_discovered_that_lets/cmi10xr |
| 18:01.36 | bluspacecow | hmmmm |
| 18:01.41 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 18:01.43 | Stanzilla | looks fixed |
| 18:01.51 | bluspacecow | i might of mentioned it on a couple of Skype groups some Blizzard employees are on |
| 18:02.10 | Stanzilla | VIad: hmm |
| 18:02.21 | bluspacecow | but then again Araxom is their social media guy |
| 18:02.30 | bluspacecow | so he would of seen it anyway just be browsing reddit |
| 18:02.31 | VIad | maybe they just gsub away the blizzard icon texture :p |
| 18:02.59 | Stanzilla | maybe it's my chat addon :p |
| 18:03.54 | Stanzilla | always errors for me |
| 18:04.33 | VIad | xD |
| 18:04.33 | VIad | try |
| 18:04.35 | Stanzilla | ok was chatthrottlelib |
| 18:04.37 | VIad | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.00 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 18:06.10 | Stanzilla | time to warn the guild |
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| 18:14.31 | Shirik | I am going to create a worm that uploads itself automatically to any host that sends you a zip file whose contents are smaller than the zip |
| 18:14.41 | Shirik | this happens way too frequently |
| 18:14.42 | foxlit | jleclanche: a 630 ilvl mission which gives 15k xp << trade you for a 640 ilvl mission that gives 100g. |
| 18:14.51 | jleclanche | hah |
| 18:14.51 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:44.15 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 18:44.23 | jnwhiteh | should I play my monk or my druid? |
| 18:49.09 | Gnarfoz | people are now posting follower links with stuff like the item preview Durotar background texture embedded, filling up entire chat windows :D |
| 18:49.32 | Simca_ | rofl |
| 18:49.35 | mikma | jnwhiteh: monk is fun, but now for long. druid is ... druid |
| 18:49.48 | mikma | jnwhiteh: not* |
| 18:50.28 | Dagmar | Hm... Might have found a bug with MasterPlan |
| 18:50.30 | mikma | jnwhiteh: the tanking is so.. odd with monk |
| 18:51.05 | Dagmar | mikma: The word thta comes to mind for me is "spamtacular" |
| 18:51.28 | mikma | dagmar: yes, exactly |
| 18:53.46 | jnwhiteh | heh yeah |
| 18:53.49 | jnwhiteh | I do love my druid |
| 18:53.56 | jnwhiteh | and I can save the boost for another char, I guess |
| 18:55.40 | Dagmar | Ahh... Semlar++. The bug I was seeing is apparently not present in 0.9, now that I've updated. |
| 18:56.46 | mikma | jnwhiteh: well it's supereasy to level the monk if you pick up tanking |
| 18:56.53 | mikma | jnwhiteh: it's instant queue after another |
| 19:00.11 | Dagmar | I thought healer LFG was fast until I tried a bit of that with my tank |
| 19:00.21 | Dagmar | There's not even time to get out a cigarette |
| 19:01.46 | Thunder_Child | s/cigarette/cancer stick/ |
| 19:04.15 | mikma | dagmar: wife and i grouped as tank/healer... it's like queue -> BOING! |
| 19:04.44 | Thunder_Child | Well that was a dirty comment in my mind. |
| 19:05.00 | Dagmar | There's definitely no time for _that_ while queueing as a tank/healer duo |
| 19:05.29 | Thunder_Child | It's not called a quickie for nothing. |
| 19:05.45 | karl_w_w | is there an unmentioned quest or something you get for making stables level 3? |
| 19:05.45 | Dagmar | There's "quickie" and there's "things you should talk to a doctor about" |
| 19:06.01 | karl_w_w | some reason not to just demolish it at level 2 |
| 19:06.16 | Thunder_Child | It's not 'premature', it's just not 'mature' either. |
| 19:06.30 | Dagmar | I look _forward_ to demolishing it now that I'm sick to death of mount training quests. |
| 19:09.23 | Fisker | FTL-hugtackles Lopeppeppy |
| 19:10.19 | Lopeppeppy | Bonjour! |
| 19:13.22 | mikma | hey, we can talk about sex if you like, it's not a big deal for finns to talk about :D |
| 19:15.20 | Lopeppeppy | Some Uhmurricans don't think it's hard to talk about either! Huzzah for progress. |
| 19:15.43 | mikma | ok, lets. i think sex is fun |
| 19:18.34 | Lopeppeppy | It's like the Green Eggs and Ham book. |
| 19:19.18 | Lopeppeppy | If you don't like green eggs and ham, you don't have to have any, anywhere, any time. If you DO like green eggs and ham, you should have it all, everywhere, all the time. |
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| 19:29.07 | foxlit | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/master-plan/tickets/68 << let's play: "what does this person actually want?" |
| 19:29.28 | karl_w_w | I have never had green eggs but I am highly suspicious of eggs in the colour of green |
| 19:30.19 | karl_w_w | probably the count of how many followers counter certain mechanics foxlit |
| 19:30.34 | karl_w_w | he wants them to only count active followers instead of inactive as well |
| 19:30.40 | Simca_ | foxlit: dunno if you saw my message but i figured out the bug with XP calculation. the tooltip for advanced training is a lie and it only increase xp by 30% |
| 19:30.49 | Simca_ | increases* |
| 19:32.40 | foxlit | karl_w_w: interesting theory. Like this, then: http://go-hero.net/i/count.jpg ? |
| 19:33.37 | Simca_ | (foxlit is being sarcastic because not counting inactive followers is the current functionality) |
| 19:33.48 | karl_w_w | that's my guess foxlit |
| 19:33.57 | Lopeppeppy | Then do not have green anything, karl_w_w. You can choose your own flavors, it's like one of those Choose Your Own Adventure books, but in the bedroom. |
| 19:34.46 | foxlit | but that's the current behavior, and going through the work of creating a ticket for "it would be nice to add current functionality" seems unlikely. |
| 19:34.57 | plaw | foxlit: I think that person wants a pony |
| 19:36.47 | Simca_ | as unlikely as it sounds that may be the cause for the ticket - the person probably got confused because the inactive followers are listed on the tooltips of the counters |
| 19:36.55 | Simca_ | and maybe they're bad at math or didn't check it |
| 19:39.20 | karl_w_w | we'll see foxlit |
| 19:39.34 | karl_w_w | and when I sat we'll see I mean we won't because that guy will never reply |
| 19:39.41 | karl_w_w | s/sat/say/ |
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| 20:03.31 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 20:03.34 | jnwhiteh | any addons that help me choose geat |
| 20:03.35 | jnwhiteh | gear |
| 20:03.39 | jnwhiteh | i need to spec balance |
| 20:03.41 | jnwhiteh | no idea what to take |
| 20:03.48 | jnwhiteh | from whats in my bags, I mean |
| 20:04.20 | Stanzilla | askmrrobot has a best in bags feature |
| 20:06.46 | jnwhiteh | nice thanks Stanzilla |
| 20:07.01 | Stanzilla | not sure that is premium only though |
| 20:07.04 | Fisker | it is |
| 20:07.05 | Fisker | but trial |
| 20:07.07 | Stanzilla | but premium is only 1$ I think |
| 20:07.23 | Fisker | $2 a month |
| 20:07.29 | Fisker | 12 a year |
| 20:07.38 | fewyn | askmrrobot is pretty good just for the best in bags feature |
| 20:07.42 | fewyn | i use it on all my alts |
| 20:08.10 | fewyn | was more worth it when reforging was still a thing |
| 20:08.15 | fewyn | but best in bags is still useful |
| 20:10.06 | Fisker | shouldn't be that hard with stat weights |
| 20:10.16 | fewyn | yeah it's not that hard |
| 20:10.19 | fewyn | i use pawn ingame |
| 20:10.37 | fewyn | but askmrrobot just digs through all my bags and tells me what's good |
| 20:10.52 | Fisker | meh |
| 20:10.59 | Fisker | alt-mouseover your slot |
| 20:11.08 | Fisker | find item with best stat |
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| 20:34.02 | foxlit | qq at the Ancient Protectors nerf. |
| 20:34.12 | foxlit | that boss fight used to be hilarious, and now its faceroll. |
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| 20:47.39 | kullervo | hey how do I forge an item link to demonstrate to someone how items can be faked? |
| 20:50.22 | Gnarfoz | you don't |
| 20:50.56 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: is this intended? https://mediacru.sh/DVGBnx3eqxpl can I make it optimize for something else than follower xp, and if yes, how? |
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| 20:51.51 | kullervo | Gnarfoz: don't be silly, of course they can be since it only has to be "valid" which results in things like http://puu.sh/dd6WF/2fd7e8cb13.jpg |
| 20:51.54 | foxlit | yes, insofar that it considers 75g to be peanuts and thinks you should optimize for XP, and no. |
| 20:52.01 | Gnarfoz | (I realize I probably just want to wait until some appropriately equipped, not-epic followers are back in town, but imagine there not being 75 lousy gold, but maybe garrison resources there) |
| 20:52.02 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/LV0HHnG.png |
| 20:52.04 | znf | what the fuck |
| 20:52.16 | kullervo | foxlit: 75g is ridiculously low |
| 20:52.42 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: ok, so it would do something else automagically if the reward wasn't pitiful? great \o/ |
| 20:52.54 | znf | since when can you make links of textures? :D |
| 20:53.06 | Gnarfoz | since 6.0 probably, and someone noticed today-ish |
| 20:53.12 | znf | RIP Trade |
| 20:53.22 | kullervo | haha |
| 20:53.23 | foxlit | blanket bans, np. |
| 20:53.24 | Gnarfoz | enjoy your faked follower links while it lasts |
| 20:53.42 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'm reporting everyone who uses the GM logo, the others... meh |
| 20:54.01 | fewyn | the faked follower links are hillarious |
| 20:54.07 | fewyn | i've seen the handicapped symbol |
| 20:54.09 | Gnarfoz | kullervo: I was under the impression that sending not-existing itemlinks disconnects you these days |
| 20:54.10 | foxlit | but this just smells like the sort of thing you'd grep your chat logs for and exact justice in the form of 24 hour suspensions. |
| 20:54.11 | Jecah | I'm using templates to simplify my UI elements in my xml. I noticed, though, that if I have a handler for OnLoad on the template as well as the actual instantiation, the template's script doesn't get called. Is there a way around this? |
| 20:54.31 | znf | I somehow can't link any of these faked followers or images |
| 20:54.37 | kullervo | Gnarfoz: that way way way back then when the server had to have the item cached |
| 20:54.44 | Gnarfoz | probably your chat addon as before, znf |
| 20:54.47 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/2V5pfqi.png |
| 20:54.52 | znf | I have BCM and WIM |
| 20:54.58 | Gnarfoz | kullervo: no, as a protection, not because of quirkiness |
| 20:55.02 | znf | I disabled WIM, still doesn't work *shrug* |
| 20:55.11 | fewyn | it doesn't work in bnet chat |
| 20:55.13 | Gnarfoz | znf: Stanzilla had the same error earlier |
| 20:55.16 | fewyn | it works in regular whispers |
| 20:55.31 | kullervo | Gnarfoz: well the screenshot I had is "valid" but just has too many flags |
| 20:55.55 | Gnarfoz | perhaps their validation doesn't go *too* deep |
| 20:56.02 | znf | kullervo, simple |
| 20:56.08 | znf | kullervo, go to wowhead -> copy script link |
| 20:56.11 | znf | edit last few : : : |
| 20:56.37 | Jecah | Is this still a place to ask dev addon questions or is this TradeChat 2.0? |
| 20:56.45 | kullervo | ah right of course, wh produces proper links and I think it can even generate complete links with enchants etc |
| 20:56.51 | Mr_Rabies | i'm always worried i'll get hit because of tradechatforwarder for this kinda stuff, hope not :| |
| 20:57.02 | Stanzilla | Jecah: if you are offended by smalltalk, the internet might not be a good place for you :p |
| 20:57.36 | Jecah | Indeed, I'm not offended. I'm just wondering if questions can sitll be asked and answered here. |
| 20:57.36 | foxlit | hey, it's even wow dev-related smalltalk |
| 20:57.45 | foxlit | which is an improvement over some alternatives. |
| 20:57.46 | Cairenn | Yes, they can |
| 20:58.30 | foxlit | znf: though maybe it should figure out that its projected XP gain is also pitiful and go for the gold instead. |
| 20:58.34 | Jecah | Should I just repeat until someone says shut up? :) attempt #2: I'm using templates to simplify my UI elements in my xml. I noticed, though, that if I have a handler for OnLoad on the template as well as the actual instantiation, the template's script doesn't get called. Is there a way around this? |
| 20:58.43 | znf | foxlit, that wsn't for me :D |
| 20:59.01 | foxlit | znf: Gnarfoz: ^ |
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| 21:01.13 | Arrowmaster | Jecah: honestly most people dont use xml anymore and just create frames using lua commands |
| 21:01.36 | g0urra | http://puu.sh/dd8E7/f777ce5cb0.jpg |
| 21:01.50 | Arrowmaster | and templates have always been an under used feature so im not sure if many people have used them enough to have any insight |
| 21:02.07 | znf | kullervo, like /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("\124cffa335ee\124Hitem:22691:0:0:0:0:0:0:0:null:0:0:4:567:567:567:567\124h[Corrupted Ashbringer]\124h\124r"); |
| 21:02.51 | Jecah | Ok, thanks :) |
| 21:02.56 | Mesaph | Hi. Has anyone got an idea how to get all available garrison follower traits / abilities? I've checked http://wowpedia.org/World_of_Warcraft_API , but could not find anything. And i cannot simply try all numbers from 1 to ... maybe 1000 with C_Garrison.GetFollowerAbilityIsTrait or something like that, because it throws an error message if called with a wrong id .. |
| 21:04.13 | Arrowmaster | Jecah: you might have more success simplifying your code by trying to create the frames in lua instead of xml |
| 21:05.22 | Primer | oh boy, people learned how to put images in chat on Darkspear |
| 21:05.35 | znf | yup |
| 21:05.39 | znf | it spreads like wildfire :D |
| 21:06.08 | Jecah | Arrowmaster: that's my current implementation. I wanted to see what the code looked like using XML. |
| 21:06.36 | Primer | heh, and the images are links to a legendary Leeroy Jenkins |
| 21:06.38 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2014-12-01_23-06-12.png |
| 21:07.00 | Primer | with 3 abilities and 4 traits |
| 21:08.38 | foxlit | I want a 16x16 button graphic that reads as "sort" |
| 21:09.02 | kullervo | foxlit: that's a bit difficult to make legible |
| 21:09.10 | kullervo | srt diagonally could be done |
| 21:09.16 | kullervo | or two arrows |
| 21:09.17 | foxlit | maybe like a solid triangle or a series of stacked rectangles forming a pyramid shape. |
| 21:10.39 | Arrowmaster | fucking finally, took me 3 tries to get a hotel room for this weekend because the site kept returning me to the home page |
| 21:12.54 | foxlit | I think wow generally has no sortable ui elements. |
| 21:15.16 | Primer | [13:14:08] [2] [Känami]: i think someone said [Thundermotherfuckingfury, Blessed Motherfucker of the God Damn Windseeker] |
| 21:15.20 | Primer | and it was a link |
| 21:15.41 | Primer | I laughed out loudly |
| 21:16.09 | foxlit | Jecah: okay, so people are generally useless around XML. |
| 21:16.33 | foxlit | If you're specifying an OnLoad on a frame, none of the inherited ones will run. |
| 21:16.36 | Dagmar | I was under the impression the item name had to match the database before the client would show it as a link |
| 21:16.38 | Dagmar | Did that change? |
| 21:16.50 | foxlit | Your choices are to either call them from your own, or not to override the OnLoad. |
| 21:16.53 | Dagmar | 'cuz I tried something rather similar to that before |
| 21:17.03 | Primer | no, it was a link to the legendary Leeroy Jenkins follower |
| 21:17.27 | Dagmar | Hmm.... Interesting |
| 21:18.36 | Jecah | I decided that specifying a global function and passing in "self" should suffice. Something like TRB_Options_Template_OnLoad( self ); and all instantiations need to call that. It's not nice and magical like inheritance should be, but it'll get the job done |
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| 22:16.42 | Simca_ | it would be great if I could stop getting "The Night Watch" mission at level 100 |
| 22:16.45 | Simca_ | over and over |
| 22:16.47 | kd3 | no kidding |
| 22:17.09 | Simca_ | it's the only one that keeps coming up like that so i'm pretty sure it is bugged |
| 22:17.31 | Amarande | Simca_: don't worry, it's just like with those old cooking dailies back in BC and Wrath |
| 22:17.51 | Amarande | it'd give you all but one of the ones you need for the achievement, and then taunt you by giving you one of the same ones you already did over and over and over and over and over :D |
| 22:18.31 | Amarande | (is there an achievement for completing each garrison mission at least once? I'd be very surprised if there wasn't) |
| 22:19.50 | Dagmar | I suspect they intend for the inventory of missions to be open-ended |
| 22:20.09 | Dagmar | Also, I just got an achievement for some ridiculous number of follower missions completed |
| 22:20.16 | Simca_ | 500? |
| 22:20.27 | Dagmar | Yeah something like that |
| 22:20.32 | Simca_ | grats |
| 22:21.34 | Arrowmaster | kd3: i got my rightstuf order delivered today |
| 22:21.38 | Dagmar | "On A Massive Number Of Missions" heh |
| 22:21.42 | kd3 | ooh, what'd you get? |
| 22:22.34 | Arrowmaster | utena collectors editions, humanity has declined bluray, cowboy bebop manga, and oreimo manga |
| 22:22.49 | kd3 | nice |
| 22:24.12 | Arrowmaster | i hear i need to read the humanity has declined manga, its got a good twist |
| 22:24.23 | kd3 | bites his tongue |
| 22:24.31 | Arrowmaster | ive heard the twist |
| 22:27.16 | Arrowmaster | and rightstuf started a new sale..... |
| 22:29.42 | Hazal | Is there any addon which will block all these spoofed follower links? |
| 22:30.36 | Semlar | badboy probably lets you define custom filters |
| 22:30.55 | Funkeh` | I just updated badboy to remove it |
| 22:31.02 | Semlar | well there you go |
| 22:31.36 | Funkeh` | removes the images and the mina kunis links |
| 22:32.02 | Xuerian | Man, it'd really be nice to be able to start all work orders at a building with one click. |
| 22:32.14 | Semlar | i just don't join trade because it's completely useless on my server |
| 22:32.36 | Simca_ | Funkeh` is always on top of spam problems |
| 22:32.47 | Semlar | i wrote something to automatically do all my workorders whenever i talk to one of the npcs |
| 22:32.50 | Stanzilla | foxlit: http://paste2.org/HH351ZXU |
| 22:32.55 | Hazal | I use the same Semlar :D |
| 22:33.29 | Hazal | Or I have written something which does the same to be more precise |
| 22:33.41 | foxlit | Stanzilla: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/master-plan/tickets/66 |
| 22:33.44 | Semlar | it's probably not perfect since it seems to try to place the workorder after it can't do it any more because the server takes a little time to update |
| 22:34.11 | Semlar | but that doesn't seem to hurt anything so i'm not going to bother fixing it |
| 22:34.15 | Stanzilla | foxlit: okay! |
| 22:34.28 | Stanzilla | I guess it was a change of server here, too |
| 22:34.31 | Stanzilla | ran out of my garrison |
| 22:34.33 | Stanzilla | when it happened |
| 22:35.27 | Semlar | Xuerian: http://pastebin.com/vtHPhY5R this is what i'm using |
| 22:35.49 | Xuerian | Semlar: Nifty. Thanks D: |
| 22:36.26 | Gnarfoz_ | Funkeh`: thanks! |
| 22:37.00 | Semlar | it's part of a bigger addon but if you need me to add the event handler and stuff i can do that |
| 22:37.27 | Hazal | A bigger addon, I'm intrigued. |
| 22:37.46 | Semlar | i just have a general autoaccept addon i dump everything into that i'm too lazy to do myself |
| 22:38.34 | Simca_ | like Leatrix Plus/Minutiae semlar-edition then |
| 22:38.39 | Semlar | yeah probably |
| 22:39.02 | Semlar | auto-vendors stuff, skips cinematics, accepts groups, things like that |
| 22:40.02 | Semlar | fills in "delete" in those "are you sure you really want to delete this thing???" dialog boxes |
| 22:42.20 | foxlit | button:SetText("|TInterface\\Buttons\\UI-RefreshButton:16:16|t") << I wonder why this doesn't do what I want. |
| 22:42.48 | Xuerian | don't some buttons have an internal fontstring object instead now? |
| 22:42.57 | Xuerian | Well, not really internal, but |
| 22:43.23 | foxlit | "now" is relative. 2.0 or earlier? |
| 22:44.21 | foxlit | anyway, yes. |
| 22:45.11 | foxlit | but why does this matter? |
| 22:45.38 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: I'm getting the ticket #66 thing right on login, and I disabled my two other garrison addons :9 is that bad? am I bad? is it helpful? |
| 22:45.57 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: what if you disable *all* your other addons? :) |
| 22:46.05 | Gnarfoz | I can do that, too, gimme a minute |
| 22:46.32 | Gnarfoz | although I'll have to move some stuff back into place, thanks Blizzard! I mean, Obama |
| 22:46.53 | foxlit | it's going to be fixed regardless, though I wonder why you're loading garrisonui on login. |
| 22:47.21 | Gnarfoz | no error with just ACP and MasterPlan, so I guess someone is doing something bad |
| 22:48.31 | nebula169 | looks like sb's addon force loads it |
| 22:48.43 | Gnarfoz | I turned that off, though |
| 22:48.57 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:50.52 | Gnarfoz | the only references to GarrisonUI outside of sbu's Broker_Garrison (which I disabled oO) are in LibSharedMedia, but it's just textures |
| 22:51.12 | foxlit | where does the stack trace end? |
| 22:51.30 | foxlit | hm, no, that wouldn't help, it's not literally on load. |
| 22:51.42 | Gnarfoz | http://haste.sbuehl.com/jarukayule.tex |
| 22:52.21 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: also Garrison_LoadUI ? |
| 22:52.32 | Gnarfoz | I'll check |
| 22:52.51 | Gnarfoz | oh, I probably shouldn't limit myself to .lua files >_> |
| 22:55.11 | Gnarfoz | derp |
| 22:55.35 | Arrowmaster | oh noes, reddit is completely down |
| 22:55.38 | Gnarfoz | missed that one, because I installed it while sneaking in missions from the office >_> Wowhead's qr code export addon does it |
| 22:55.48 | Gnarfoz | evil zam! |
| 22:56.03 | Gnarfoz | and nobody on IRC to rage at! :( |
| 22:56.44 | fewyn | reddit is down what am i supposed to do with my life |
| 22:56.53 | Gnarfoz | no error for now! (but I left my garrison for a bit, if that's mega relevant) |
| 22:57.11 | Gnarfoz | missions. lots of missions. |
| 22:57.14 | Arrowmaster | im going out put thats not for another half hour, what will i do in the mean time |
| 22:57.22 | Gnarfoz | twitter? |
| 22:57.31 | Arrowmaster | i dont twit |
| 22:57.47 | Gnarfoz | tweet, you mean? :D |
| 22:57.47 | Gnarfoz | facebook! |
| 22:57.47 | Gnarfoz | tumblr? something! |
| 22:57.54 | Gnarfoz | http://justwarlordthings.tumblr.com/ |
| 22:59.54 | Simca_ | every single one of these links is identical in follower stats to the one jamash made in here last night |
| 22:59.59 | Simca_ | i think we should all blame him |
| 23:01.26 | Gnarfoz | I've seen several others, too; people just read OC end EPVP ^^ |
| 23:08.41 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/gorK3eQ.png |
| 23:08.42 | znf | wat |
| 23:12.10 | Gnarfoz | well, someone is unwilling. |
| 23:13.28 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: doesn't happen on login with Broker_Garrison and CompactMissions enabled. I blame WowheadGarrisonTimer |
| 23:13.52 | nebula169 | happened for me with broker_garrison, disabled and was fine |
| 23:16.44 | tlund | Can someone tell me the name of the popup that shows up when you get invited to join Ashran? |
| 23:23.37 | Gnarfoz | 16x [Big Crate of Salvage]... go! |
| 23:24.46 | Gnarfoz | nice. |
| 23:25.22 | Gnarfoz | 1 "to 630" weapon, 2 "to 615" weapons, 1 +3 weapon, one each of +3/+6/+9 armor :O |
| 23:28.04 | Dagmar | Ah... apparently some of the safeties broke with respect to what can be linked. I'm seeing some pretty bizarre stuff in /2 now |
| 23:28.26 | Gnarfoz | it's probably still all the same: follower link abuse |
| 23:29.50 | Gnarfoz | hm yeah, still got the error when I zoned, w/ Broker_Garrison + CompactMissions |
| 23:29.51 | Simca_ | yeah |
| 23:30.33 | Simca_ | Dagmar: they wrote the follower link system separately from the other game link systems and it doesn't have any of the safeguards against abuse |
| 23:30.49 | Gnarfoz | herp derp comes to mind. |
| 23:32.07 | Simca_ | they got a lot of new blood during WoD dev; it probably got tasked to somebody who wasn't familiar with the other systems and wasn't thinking about abuse |
| 23:32.14 | Dagmar | Oh dear. That _was_ ill-advised. |
| 23:32.53 | Simca_ | i don't think they can hotfix it |
| 23:33.30 | Simca_ | at least tomorrow is maintenance so they could maybe do some server-side shenanigans for now |
| 23:34.09 | Gnarfoz | they can do server-side shenaningans all the time! that's what a hotfix is :D |
| 23:34.30 | Gnarfoz | (but if it's written by someone else... why is the format just like the others? meh) |
| 23:35.24 | Simca_ | nah; their definition of a hotfix is typically just writing new stuff in db2s and pushing it out to users via Cache\LANGUAGE\Hotfix.tbl |
| 23:35.38 | Simca_ | i mean they do do server-side stuff but not as often |
| 23:35.43 | Amarande | and of course nowadays a "+3 weapon" is just a tiny little smidge of an upgrade |
| 23:35.52 | Simca_ | http://www.wowhead.com/item=12887 |
| 23:35.52 | Amarande | man, anyone remember the olden days of RPGdom where a +3 weapon was the stuff of legend? :D |
| 23:36.00 | Simca_ | also i'm very surprised that wasn't the first picture linked |
| 23:36.29 | Simca_ | i mean if i was doing these to be ridiculous, that would have been my choice of link icon |
| 23:36.53 | Amarande | just come over to Eorzea, it's nice and peaceful here :) |
| 23:37.12 | Amarande | Gilgamesh is not for you, though |
| 23:40.24 | Gnarfoz | I don't care for "their definition" :p hotfix means "fix without downtime", clearly |
| 23:41.33 | Gnarfoz | but they're not sticking to "link icons", Simca_, they're posting huge background textures ;p |
| 23:42.01 | Gnarfoz | DoS is still more attractive than simple "jokes" :C |
| 23:43.43 | znf | did foxlit push a new library to MasterPlan? |
| 23:43.56 | znf | ie: do I have to restart the game? :D |
| 23:44.11 | Gnarfoz | he's been putting HUGE BOLD notices in the changelog when that's the case. |
| 23:44.30 | znf | I just have the curse client auto-update |
| 23:44.37 | Gnarfoz | y u so bad |
| 23:44.58 | Gnarfoz | that also doesn't stop you from just reloading and seeing what happens |
| 23:45.06 | Gnarfoz | can always downgrade through CC a minute later |
| 23:45.13 | Gnarfoz | (or just restart the fucking game xD) |
| 23:45.26 | Ivnedar_ | but restarting takes almost 5 seconds these days! |
| 23:45.31 | Ivnedar_ | too long |
| 23:45.32 | znf | interrupts my work flow |
| 23:45.48 | Gnarfoz | UI reload alone takes 3 times that for me, but I run too many addons apparently |
| 23:46.10 | Gnarfoz | wtb Warmup Reloaded Redux Continued Fan Update WoD Edition |
| 23:46.25 | Gnarfoz | ...but accurate this time :( |
| 23:46.41 | nebula169 | never accurate |
| 23:50.39 | foxlit | ls -alh SavedVariables and sort by size. |
| 23:55.48 | Primer | yeah, I should clean up my WTF |
| 23:57.24 | znf | Someone needs to make an addon that surpresses that stupid looking-for-group sound |
| 23:57.45 | Primer | that is rather annoying |
| 23:58.03 | Primer | speaking of sounds...I recently had all sorts of train sounds in the game when WoD opened |
| 23:58.24 | Primer | bunch of assholes waiting by the Dark Portal...thing is, I had the sound file overrides in the correct directory |
| 23:58.35 | znf | doesn't work anymore |
| 23:58.38 | Primer | So I thought perhaps the paths to those just changed or something |
| 23:58.43 | znf | nope, noticed that in beta |
| 23:58.48 | Primer | that's unfortunate |
| 23:59.02 | znf | they either disabled that option, or they changed something and nobody has figured out yet :D |
| 23:59.12 | Primer | well, someone has a "addon" on curse that's reported to be updated for 6.0.3, but it's the zip of annoying sounds |
| 23:59.37 | znf | just because he changed the .toc, it doesn't mean much :D |
| 23:59.44 | Primer | well, there's no toc |
| 23:59.52 | znf | link |
| 23:59.59 | Primer | as it's just a zip with a directory named Sound in it |
