| 00:13.40 | foxlit | are follower group XP buffs multiplicative? |
| 00:25.06 | Simca_ | foxlit: I can test but I think they're additive |
| 00:25.35 | foxlit | if you've got the followers for it, I'd also like to know their relationship with single-follower xp buffs |
| 00:29.28 | Simca_ | additive - 1500 with none, 1950 with one, 2400 with two. |
| 00:29.36 | Simca_ | don't have any single follower xp buffs unfortunately |
| 00:29.39 | foxlit | bah, more code :( |
| 00:38.15 | Simca_ | foxlit: there is an XP bonus if your success rate is over 100% too |
| 00:38.28 | foxlit | but that's a static additive thing and is returned by the API. |
| 00:40.44 | Simca_ | it looks like that bit is neither additive or multiplicative with xp buffs btw |
| 00:40.53 | Simca_ | it is added to the xp amount after all other calculations |
| 00:41.26 | foxlit | urgh. Do you keep completion data somewhere? :) |
| 00:41.56 | Simca_ | a spreadsheet, but it doesn't track xp |
| 00:42.36 | foxlit | but to know that it's not multiplied by buffs, you'd have to track xp? |
| 00:43.34 | Simca_ | well i'm looking at the blizzard calculations here for this mission whose success rate is 108.33% with a 1.35x xp buff multiplier and 1500 base XP and blizzard says the result is 2075 XP |
| 00:45.07 | Simca_ | using an additive multiplier would be 1.4333x and that is too high. using a multiplicative multiplier would be 1.46x and that is too high |
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| 00:46.02 | foxlit | how do they communicate the 2075 xp? I have no xp buff followers, and I'm too lazy to look at more framexml :( |
| 00:46.10 | Henk_ | Hi, I am just starting out and I cant figure out how to add padding to a backdrop, only inset but I want a black border on my status bar. |
| 00:48.09 | Simca_ | http://i.imgur.com/FGAJKqF.jpg |
| 00:48.20 | Simca_ | actually i have no idea how they get this 2075 number lol |
| 00:48.27 | Simca_ | the lowest i can manage is 2125 |
| 00:48.35 | foxlit | and if you unslot everything, you get 1500 there? |
| 00:48.39 | Simca_ | yep |
| 00:48.57 | foxlit | so this is like mission base xp + mission bonus xp |
| 00:49.24 | Simca_ | yeah the number in parentheses is the bonus xp i guess |
| 00:49.40 | foxlit | so 1500*1.35 + 50 for some reason. |
| 00:50.31 | foxlit | which means I only need to do this to actual bonus XP rewards. |
| 00:51.13 | Simca_ | yeah and i'm not sure that >100% bonus XP multipliers would apply to success rewards |
| 00:51.26 | Simca_ | the follower buff one definitely does though |
| 00:55.43 | Simca_ | if i replace followers so there is no xp buff and the success rate is the same |
| 00:55.49 | Simca_ | it is 1625 |
| 00:56.17 | Simca_ | as far as I can tell, it must be bugged then. an xp buff shouldn't decrease the amount gained from the success rate bonus |
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| 01:20.53 | Henk_ | I want a border on my status bar but I cant figure out how, I use wow programming as reference and this is what I have http://a.pomf.se/fixljl.txt |
| 01:23.43 | foxlit | Henk_: your background texture has a size, but no anchors, so the client doesn't draw it -- it doesn't know *where*. |
| 01:24.04 | Henk_ | foxlit: I thought SetAllPoints did that |
| 01:24.22 | foxlit | okay, yes, it does. |
| 01:24.49 | Henk_ | foxlit: http://i.imgur.com/TwXrtiY.png this is how it looks |
| 01:25.12 | Henk_ | its suppose to be 5px extra on each side |
| 01:25.27 | Henk_ | or I dont reall know |
| 01:25.45 | Henk_ | but with SetSize that sounds logical |
| 01:25.53 | foxlit | you can't combine explicit sizes and SetAllPoints |
| 01:26.24 | foxlit | the former says "I must be 260x25 units", the latter says "Make sure my topleft corner is the same as my parent's topleft, and my bottomright as my parent's bottomright" |
| 01:26.35 | foxlit | setallpoints wins, your background texture is exactly as large as the status bar. |
| 01:28.32 | Henk_ | SetPoint("CENTER", 0, 0); works thanks |
| 01:28.49 | Henk_ | how is it relative to UIParent or the statusbar? |
| 01:31.18 | Simca_ | i think that when given without a parent argument, SetPoint defaults to using the object's parent |
| 01:31.40 | Simca_ | so it depends if you defined its parent as the status bar or left it blank, in which case it'd go to UIParent |
| 01:32.33 | Henk_ | ok thanks, one more quick, should I set backdrop on texture or status bar? is it ok with both |
| 01:35.27 | Fisker | I'm happy foxlit |
| 01:35.44 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/tarren-mill/Fiskerdin/advanced |
| 01:36.29 | nebula169 | fancy |
| 01:38.26 | kd3 | amused by the guild name |
| 01:39.01 | znf | Simca_, I think it's possible to not get the reward fom missions |
| 01:39.06 | Fisker | guild perks were nice back in the day kd3 |
| 01:40.01 | znf | Simca_, why my addon, I clicked rapidly trough the missions |
| 01:40.09 | znf | Simca_, one of them didn't release the followers |
| 01:40.20 | fewyn | i want have group back |
| 01:40.24 | znf | Simca_, so I reopened the UI, the mission showed up as complete, but no rewrd |
| 01:40.43 | znf | Simca_, I did /run MissionBonusRoll(), and I got the reward |
| 01:41.13 | Simca_ | proves my theory that that the followers would still be locked. |
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| 01:41.16 | Simca_ | at least |
| 01:41.59 | Sharparam | bodyguard health detection is pretty reliable, the only thing it doesn't do is detect the passive health regen out of combat |
| 01:42.07 | Sharparam | it's a problem when the bodyguard has a dot and takes damage OOC |
| 01:42.32 | Sharparam | detects it taking damage, but not healing back up |
| 01:43.12 | znf | Simca_, next time I do that, i'll try clicking finished/next on the "bugged" mission to see if it's actually releasing them or not |
| 01:44.46 | Amarande | bah, Gilgamesh is full once again |
| 01:44.57 | Amarande | apparently I have to be up at like 3 in the morning if I want to make a character there LOL |
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| 01:46.47 | znf | Simca_, ok. They're locked. |
| 01:46.57 | znf | thing is, it's not rolling the bonus :D |
| 01:48.22 | znf | I'll need to figure how to fix that in someway |
| 01:48.42 | foxlit | If you disable your addon while the mission is in that state, does the default UI complete it properly? |
| 01:48.55 | znf | a reloadui is enough |
| 01:53.59 | znf | so, wtf |
| 01:54.02 | znf | someone just got http://www.wowhead.com/item=119461&bonus=0 |
| 01:54.04 | znf | epic 640 |
| 01:54.05 | znf | ?! |
| 01:55.27 | Simca_ | epic 630 |
| 01:55.38 | Simca_ | but yeah that's a lucky roll |
| 01:56.00 | znf | Simca_, he got 640 |
| 01:56.12 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/v21VJRV.png |
| 01:56.19 | znf | bonusID 576 |
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| 02:06.33 | Amarande | heh, so basically WoD top end gear is following a Diablo-esque random loot luck system then? |
| 02:07.12 | Dashkal | hybrid. Many of the stats fixed, some extras from a smaller pool randomly added. |
| 02:07.48 | Dashkal | IIRC the extras are just higher ilvl, tertiery stats (like speed), and a gem socket. |
| 02:08.02 | Amarande | yeah, I did hear that JC basically got gutted for this xpack |
| 02:08.34 | Dashkal | In my opinion, profs in general got gutted. Not at all happy with how they came out. |
| 02:08.39 | Amarande | Presumably the "higher ilvl" perk is the one that you basically always want |
| 02:09.02 | Dashkal | The gem as well. Few slots, but a decent chunk of stat in the gem. |
| 02:09.17 | Dashkal | Strictly secondary though. (Crit, Haste, etc) |
| 02:09.43 | Amarande | yeah, profs are basically another reason to play ffxiv now :) |
| 02:09.54 | Amarande | there the crafting professions are actually full fledged job classes with levels and all |
| 02:10.00 | Dashkal | I'm keeping up. They're just not an interesting part of the game this time around. |
| 02:10.21 | Amarande | yeah, it's weird that they'd gut them so much |
| 02:10.35 | Amarande | removing the special perk bonuses is one thing, but removing much of their regular usefulness too :| |
| 02:11.02 | Dashkal | I think what bugs me most is they're all simple, and all /exactly the same/. Do daily for special mat, do daily for recipe. Fill work orders. Choose recipe once in awhile and every few days you can make a purp. |
| 02:11.11 | Dashkal | Ignore the blues you can make, total waste of the special mat. |
| 02:11.49 | Dashkal | Once you have the purp, upgrade it to the level you want it, and reroll stats until idea. |
| 02:11.52 | Dashkal | ideal* |
| 02:12.06 | Dashkal | I wish I was kidding. That's literally every crafting profession. |
| 02:12.24 | znf | Amarande, there's "bonusID"s for items |
| 02:12.37 | Amarande | Dashkal: sounds almost more like a Diablo game than WoW |
| 02:12.58 | znf | those bonusIDs can do stuff like - upgrade item to epic/rare; grant extra tertiary stats (speed, leech, avoidance); warforged (+6ilvl); socket; |
| 02:13.07 | Dashkal | Well, ish. Like I said, there's lots of direct control as well. Primary stats are fixed. For drops, secondary stats are fixed. |
| 02:13.16 | Amarande | ahhh, the days when we used to go through a veritable dragon's hoard of perfect gems trying to reroll them grand charms :) |
| 02:13.29 | znf | crafted items are random secondary stats |
| 02:13.37 | Dashkal | The 'reroll' bit I mention is just a thing you craft and apply to the item. |
| 02:13.53 | Dashkal | And that applies ONLY to crafted items. |
| 02:13.59 | znf | yup |
| 02:14.10 | Amarande | mind you what they really should be doing is adding in a second special mat you use alongside this stuff, which would cost gold |
| 02:14.11 | znf | you also don't get to chose what you reroll |
| 02:14.19 | znf | they did... :P |
| 02:14.26 | znf | it's savage blood, and it's tradeable :D |
| 02:14.33 | Amarande | ah, that's what the point of the system is probably, then |
| 02:14.56 | Amarande | to start absorbing gold en masse from the system in a way that doesn't piss people off :) |
| 02:15.30 | znf | well, it doesn't cost gold to get it from vendors |
| 02:15.32 | znf | it's other mats |
| 02:15.51 | Dashkal | Yeah, savage isn't a gold sink. The garrison itself is the gold sink. |
| 02:16.02 | Dashkal | Savage is sourced from the barn and from primal aspects. |
| 02:16.03 | znf | *but* gold is now used in a lot of places as a currency |
| 02:16.13 | Amarande | and WoW was definitely in dire need of a gold sink |
| 02:16.16 | Dashkal | (think you work for, or bonus drop on any trade mat) |
| 02:16.22 | znf | it's pretty much a replacement for valor points now |
| 02:16.41 | Amarande | Occurs to me, the reason most other MMOs avoid having so much gold around is because most MMOs put a much heavier emphasis on having to use vendors |
| 02:16.54 | Simca_ | <znf> http://i.imgur.com/v21VJRV.png |
| 02:16.54 | Simca_ | <znf> bonusID 576 |
| 02:16.55 | Simca_ | sigh |
| 02:17.00 | Amarande | whereas WoW practically ignored gold as a currency for several expansion packs |
| 02:17.02 | Simca_ | according to blizzard's api that isn't possible. |
| 02:17.12 | znf | Simca_, that's what I thought :-/ |
| 02:17.18 | znf | he linked 640, and I was like, what, how? :-| |
| 02:19.28 | znf | bah, how do I get the item link numbers thingie? |
| 02:19.34 | znf | I did /dump print("item link") |
| 02:19.37 | znf | but that sounds stupid |
| 02:21.05 | Simca_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:21.19 | Mr_Rabies | there's no way to visit my main's garrison on an alt is there? |
| 02:21.34 | Simca_ | znf: http://www.wowdb.com/items/119461-skullthumper-of-trials?bonusIDs=576 |
| 02:21.46 | znf | Ah |
| 02:21.52 | Simca_ | (wowdb doesn't forcibly stop you from entering IDs manually in the url) |
| 02:21.54 | znf | I tried doing it on wowhead, and it didn't work :D |
| 02:22.12 | Simca_ | yeah that's because it is hardcoded to follow only what it knows and redirect you if you stray outside those ids |
| 02:22.31 | znf | good guy wowdb |
| 02:30.46 | Sharparam | hm |
| 02:30.53 | Sharparam | the packager isn't packaging my library :P |
| 02:32.30 | Sharparam | packager log is empty: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libbodyguard-1-0/repositories/mainline/packager/ |
| 02:32.54 | znf | http://www.wowace.com/packager/ |
| 02:33.07 | znf | Pending commits - Git: /wow/libbodyguard-1-0/mainline |
| 02:33.08 | znf | :) |
| 02:33.24 | Sharparam | :o |
| 02:34.25 | znf | but yeah, dwutilities broke the packager :P |
| 02:34.46 | Sharparam | wtb multi-threaded packager :3 |
| 02:36.44 | znf | Anyone has a Trading Post? |
| 02:36.50 | znf | What does it take for resources? |
| 02:38.53 | znf | Sharparam, there, it went trough |
| 02:39.39 | Sharparam | woo |
| 02:40.41 | Sharparam | or did it |
| 02:41.48 | znf | <Repo> libbodyguard-1-0: Fuskare01 v1.0.0-beta * 4231bed /: [new tag] Decently usable |
| 02:42.06 | znf | foxlit, sort by mission time, please? |
| 02:42.46 | foxlit | it's on a list somewhere |
| 02:43.59 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:54.10 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1417229547.png |
| 02:59.05 | Simca_ | foxlit: that doesn't take a long time to process? |
| 02:59.14 | Simca_ | to calculate success for every combination for every mission? |
| 02:59.27 | Simca_ | with 25 followers and 15 missions even? |
| 03:00.38 | foxlit | it |
| 03:00.41 | foxlit | 's livable. |
| 03:01.45 | Simca_ | also won't the size of that dropdown list get unwieldly if you have a lot of idle followers? |
| 03:03.13 | foxlit | it's top 3, so no. |
| 03:03.22 | Simca_ | i see |
| 03:04.16 | Simca_ | 13800 calculations per mission if you have 25 idle followers; i wonder what the performance is like in that case |
| 03:14.03 | kd3 | whee, bnet just crashed |
| 03:17.21 | kd3 | "The service is unavailable." when trying to restart the bnet app |
| 03:17.57 | Ressy | ISP's network director dropped. 67 minute wait to log into medivh now. o.O |
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| 03:20.20 | kd3 | hahaha, wow. I think I'm done for the night. http://t.co/7Jy2xJeQVs |
| 03:20.40 | znf | foxlit, so you're making GMM useless? |
| 03:21.07 | nebula169 | kd3: apparently you can open wow directly and login |
| 03:21.27 | Ressy | kd3: It drops really quickly. |
| 03:21.30 | Ressy | I'm sitting at 5 mins now |
| 03:21.57 | kd3 | eh, it's an excuse for me to do something else |
| 03:22.11 | foxlit | znf: maybe, I don't keep track of what things do. |
| 03:22.30 | Ressy | Kd3: Bypass the launcher. *shrugs* |
| 03:24.24 | Amarande | kd3: good gods, that's worse than the security line at Atlanta airport :P |
| 03:25.08 | kd3 | unless you're flying around thanksgiving, queues are rarely bad at atlanta |
| 03:25.49 | Amarande | kd3: or Dragon Con |
| 03:27.07 | Ivnedar | I think blizz think I'm a hydra. mc drops a helm, bs makes a helm, engy makes a helm, invasions dropping helms |
| 03:27.13 | Amarande | although probably the worst queue I was in was at JFK |
| 03:27.50 | Amarande | I believe it was during a government shutdown ... wouldn't be surprised if they only considered like, *one* TSA checkpoint per terminal to actually be "essential" then ... the queue was noticeably less troublesome on the way back from same trip (the shutdown was lifted while I was away heh) |
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| 03:31.43 | Iriel | WTF A battlenet queue!? |
| 03:31.54 | kd3 | bnet crashed a few minutes back |
| 03:31.57 | Iriel | Ah |
| 03:32.02 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: You are a bad influence. |
| 03:34.00 | znf | Hmmm |
| 03:34.08 | znf | I didn't get any Mine Carts on this reset O.O |
| 03:38.52 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: did you place any $6 orders today? |
| 03:39.07 | Kemayo | Battle.net is apparently bad at coming back up. |
| 03:39.35 | znf | it's bad at getting hit by millions of peopel :P |
| 03:39.56 | Ressy | especially when it crashes again. |
| 03:40.07 | Ressy | like it did 3 mins ago |
| 03:40.36 | Iriel | So that wasnât me popping through the queue then having my own crash, it was bnet falling over a second time? |
| 03:40.57 | nebula169 | game world is pretty laggy, too |
| 03:43.21 | Ressy | just got dc'd |
| 03:43.43 | nebula169 | yup |
| 03:44.13 | Iriel | How dare blizzard not include an offline mode for WoW. |
| 03:44.21 | nebula169 | blame jay wilson |
| 03:46.23 | Ressy | another huge ddos. This time to Saint Louis. |
| 03:47.31 | Iriel | I guess iâll have to go make a turkey sandwich then |
| 03:48.15 | fewyn | rip in peace servers |
| 03:49.54 | Torhal | Damn it, Iriel. Now I need to make food. |
| 03:54.13 | Iriel | Torhal: Iâm just riding the leftovers train from cooking yesterday. |
| 03:54.20 | znf | I really hate the cap on Apexis Crystals :-| |
| 03:54.54 | Torhal | Yeah, I think I'll do the same. Grab some turkey, kale, and green beans. Everything else is off limits. |
| 03:55.01 | Iriel | Hm, blizzardCS just tweeted to ignore the launcher and fire up wow directly |
| 03:55.17 | Torhal | I fired up WoW and see a bunch of servers as Offline. |
| 03:55.24 | Torhal | Including mine. |
| 03:55.52 | Iriel | Mine was there, luckily |
| 03:56.42 | znf | Wonder if I should just buy a follower for 5k crystals :-/ |
| 03:57.11 | Torhal | Though its "sister" realm is online. That tells me the cross-server stuff isn't just a thinly-veiled server merge. |
| 03:57.13 | nebula169 | what the hell are you hording them for? |
| 04:00.03 | Iriel | Ugh, loot lag |
| 04:10.44 | Amarande | Who's DDoSing game servers this month and for what twisted reason this time :| |
| 04:10.55 | Amarande | It should be punishable by having their typing fingers broken, though. One knuckle at a time. |
| 04:11.16 | nebula169 | atleast they didn't wait until tuesday |
| 04:11.18 | Dagmar | Yeah. MC at >3000ms latency is safness. |
| 04:11.21 | Dagmar | er sadness |
| 04:13.35 | Iriel | âYou have been disconnected from Battle.netâ - no shit. |
| 04:14.12 | pompy | guess they havent perfected the bnet app queue system yet! |
| 04:14.28 | Iriel | And now D/Câed from WoW |
| 04:14.50 | Amarande | heh, and meanwhile youtube is still featuring best buy ads saying how I can save online on Thanksgiving and shop on Thursday at 5PM |
| 04:15.03 | Amarande | thanks, Best Buy, I can do just that ... soon as I figure out where I can rent a TARDIS |
| 04:17.55 | Stanzilla | foxlit: with .8.1 the mission UI "lags" quite a bit after submitting a mission |
| 04:18.13 | Stanzilla | as in, takes a while until the mission disappears from teh list |
| 04:20.37 | pompy | Wow, China ddos'ing the shit out of Ferguson, Mo too. |
| 04:24.29 | nebula169 | whats so special about st. louis? |
| 04:24.43 | kd3 | people upset about the ferguson decision? |
| 04:25.09 | Ressy | ferguson is outskirts of st. louis I believe? |
| 04:25.15 | kd3 | yup |
| 04:25.15 | nebula169 | ah |
| 04:25.16 | pompy | yeah |
| 04:25.29 | pompy | Seattle getting hit a lot too |
| 04:26.00 | Ressy | weird. seattle did a protest for ferguson. their mayor even came out. |
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| 04:27.14 | Iriel | My Cashjâr Seahorse is floating around in my Stables |
| 04:27.19 | Iriel | Vashjâr that is |
| 04:27.45 | kd3 | I tweeted at a garrison designer about that. apparently they decided it was a non-issue |
| 04:27.56 | Iriel | Itâs sort of cute |
| 04:27.57 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: What did I do now? |
| 04:28.44 | Iriel | âThank you for shopping at Newegg! |
| 04:28.45 | Iriel | We're delighted we had what you were looking for!â |
| 04:29.18 | Dashkal | We were watching a guildmate's pandaren kite. It was so cute when it went to eat some hay. |
| 04:29.31 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: Do I see 4K in your future? |
| 04:29.43 | Thunder_Child | Also, that was a pun :( |
| 04:29.59 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: *I* might see 4K in my future, your future is already there 8-) |
| 04:32.20 | znf | foxlit, where do you have the data for "pending"?! |
| 04:32.21 | pompy | they just confirmed it was a ddoss.. says in the wowalert |
| 04:32.39 | znf | I see you tagged missions as 36 hours, 24 hours etc. |
| 04:32.40 | kd3 | ~wowalert |
| 04:32.41 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: Returns empty content unless there is an active alert] |
| 04:34.01 | kd3 | good news, foxlit: https://twitter.com/TheCrafticus/status/538536358046744577 |
| 04:34.57 | znf | makes you wonder why they didn't implement that by default :P |
| 04:36.24 | Simca_ | some aspects are non-intuitive and blizzard tries to make everything very intuitive (even if they don't always succeed) |
| 04:37.36 | Stanzilla | foxlit: all good with .2 though :p |
| 04:39.49 | pompy | heh https://twitter.com/michelemorrow/status/538538101225041920 |
| 04:52.34 | Shirik | chat room was talking about all the things they didn't like about the star wars trailer |
| 04:52.49 | Shirik | I responded with "I was disappointed that Picard was not in the trailer. Are they just going to leave the storyline about how he's supposed to get back from the Delta quadrant unfinished?" |
| 04:52.59 | Shirik | I don't believe I have enough popcorn to finish sitting through the results |
| 04:53.09 | Simca_ | oh god |
| 04:53.12 | Simca_ | lol. |
| 04:53.27 | Simca_ | you're a terrible person |
| 04:54.00 | nebula169 | where is the instance portal for grim rail? |
| 04:59.30 | Amarande | Soooo ... should we have a Constitutional amendment to exempt DDoS attacks from the rule prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment? :) |
| 05:10.28 | kullervo | accidentally I tell you about all the things I hate |
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| 05:10.42 | kullervo | you smile, mention something that you like, how'd you have a happy life if you did the things you like |
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| 05:21.31 | DJJeff | so I know who is behind the DDoS attack on battle net how do I report it? |
| 05:23.09 | DJJeff | oh would probley need to contact their ISP @ AT&T |
| 05:23.42 | DJJeff | 13,000 ms latency is pretty bad |
| 05:26.36 | pompy | I'm sure they know about it DJJeff. lol |
| 05:27.17 | DJJeff | they do seem to get alot of DDoS |
| 05:27.24 | DJJeff | several just this year |
| 05:27.46 | Mr_Rabies | how do you know who's behind it O_o |
| 05:27.48 | DJJeff | they did just launch a new x-pac |
| 05:28.00 | Amarande | FFXIV was hit a bit over a week ago, and they haven't even just launched a new xpac |
| 05:28.03 | Amarande | someone hates game servers for some reason |
| 05:28.21 | DJJeff | because I have witnessed some large scale botnets |
| 05:28.34 | DJJeff | that are targeting both battle net and steam |
| 05:28.51 | DJJeff | that originate on chinese servers |
| 05:28.54 | Amarande | heh. maybe we do need forced sterility for the whole population like this one guy on reddit quipped :P |
| 05:28.56 | Amarande | http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/2mrbd1/ffxiv_is_under_a_ddos_attack/cm6ukpu |
| 05:29.02 | Ressy | http://internetpulse.net/ |
| 05:29.12 | Amarande | since, well, kids keep doing this stuff, and there are always more kids, unfortunately :( |
| 05:30.04 | DJJeff | http://www.digitalattackmap.com/ |
| 05:30.15 | Amarande | btw, how do sites like digitalattackmap and ipviking track attacks in real time so they can display them on a world map? that seems like it'd be difficult to do at an overview level like that |
| 05:30.37 | Amarande | that seems more like the kind of impossibly high tech you see in James Bond movies |
| 05:32.08 | Shirik | I have been outtrolled :( |
| 05:32.13 | Shirik | "Just wait, @Matt (Kimina) , they need one more star wars movie, then they can merge the storyline with the new time-line of trek, then joss whedon will direct the final edged storyline with Firefly" |
| 05:32.31 | Shirik | that is the scariest thing I have ever heard |
| 05:34.32 | Shirik | also DJJeff I generally prefer http://map.ipviking.com/ but to be fair they track different things |
| 05:35.14 | Amarande | Shirik: heh speaking of star wars, I had a comment for that picture that's been out lately with the lightsaber with the hilt guard made of lightsaber |
| 05:35.23 | Amarande | it took a form of an exchange, basically |
| 05:36.14 | Amarande | "Dad, why aren't there any Jedi around anymore?" "Well son, you see, sometime between Long Long Ago and now, the Jedi and Sith kept making their lightsabers more and more elaborate, until they were basically swinging around the laser cutter patterns from Resident Evil all the time ... most of them managed to cut themselves to pieces and the knowledge was lost. :(" |
| 05:40.32 | Mr_Rabies | the best non-standard lightsaber is count dooku's, one of the only neat things from the prequels |
| 05:42.53 | Mr_Rabies | darth sidious as an idea was really cool too, but he was woefully misused in the actual movie |
| 05:43.02 | Mr_Rabies | way better in the clone wars animated shorts |
| 05:43.23 | Mr_Rabies | er |
| 05:43.23 | Mr_Rabies | wait |
| 05:43.49 | Mr_Rabies | not darth sidious, general grevious |
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| 06:08.44 | karl_w_w | is now a good time to be building new PCs, or are there new generations of things coming soon? |
| 06:08.55 | karl_w_w | maybe chaud_ knows |
| 06:10.12 | chaud_ | nothing major coming until middle of next year |
| 06:10.35 | chaud_ | black friday sales this year are pretty awful |
| 06:11.09 | karl_w_w | thanks |
| 06:12.59 | Xuerian | Amarande: Generally by being involved somewhere in protecting against the attacks. A third party filter for example, that the user has allowed to collect anon attack statistics |
| 06:13.13 | Xuerian | (Since that's what ipviking sells) |
| 06:13.17 | kullervo | karl_w_w: intel rumored to release new thing before the end of the year |
| 06:13.41 | kullervo | karl_w_w: new open tech whateverthefuck sync screens expected in january |
| 06:14.16 | karl_w_w | g-sync? thought that was already out |
| 06:14.40 | Xuerian | g-sync is nvidia's proprietary version |
| 06:14.54 | Xuerian | Display specs already basically had it but no one used it iirc |
| 06:17.57 | Simca_ | there were a very tiny handful of monitors that supported it |
| 06:18.15 | karl_w_w | I'll support you if you're not careful |
| 06:18.23 | Simca_ | um |
| 06:18.25 | Simca_ | ok |
| 06:18.38 | Simca_ | where do i sign up |
| 06:19.03 | kullervo | not even a handful |
| 06:19.33 | kullervo | there's a finnish word refering to an amount that can be picked up with two or three fingers but I can't think of a translation |
| 06:19.51 | Simca_ | a pinch? |
| 06:20.09 | Simca_ | i.e. a pinch of salt |
| 06:21.28 | kullervo | yes |
| 06:22.00 | Simca_ | but yeah there were like 2 monitors that were compatible with nvidia's version and a few others that could work with fiddling that they didn't support |
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| 06:39.14 | g0urra | grr.. I don't get why norse took off the locations on the icons |
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| 06:40.26 | znf | weee ashran http://i.imgur.com/SZEa0Ye.jpg |
| 07:32.04 | Torhal | So, yeah...time to jettison Garrison Mission Manager; Master Plan does what it does. |
| 07:34.04 | Fisker | what does it do again? |
| 07:34.11 | Fisker | oh |
| 07:34.12 | Fisker | oooooooooooooh |
| 07:34.14 | Fisker | I'm dumb |
| 07:34.22 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 07:34.31 | Fisker | lol |
| 07:34.35 | Fisker | I thought that was masterplan |
| 07:34.39 | Fisker | coughs |
| 07:35.19 | Fisker | Time to seppuku |
| 07:35.50 | Torhal | Make sure you use rebar, Fisker. |
| 07:35.55 | Torhal | Be creative! |
| 07:36.54 | Fisker | Doesn't matter had ilevel 645 epic |
| 07:38.30 | karl_w_w | i love it when i garrison hearth and it doesnt work |
| 07:38.35 | karl_w_w | highlight of my day |
| 07:40.00 | nevcairiel | that hasn't happened to me for a long time now |
| 07:41.08 | Fisker | I've had some shitty luck, but can't complain about yesterday |
| 07:41.20 | Fisker | boe epic from trash and ilevel 645 weapon from missions |
| 07:41.35 | Fisker | Didn't give me the best roll, but hey at least it had haste on it |
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| 08:01.53 | Fisker | Does the scavenger bonus stack? |
| 08:02.00 | Fisker | I'm having wet dreams |
| 08:04.16 | Stanzilla | yes it does |
| 08:07.04 | Fisker | oh boy |
| 08:07.43 | Fisker | That's going to come in handy if I ever get any garrison resources missions again |
| 08:07.48 | Fisker | or missions in general |
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| 09:15.14 | g0urra | HOLY SHIT |
| 09:15.22 | g0urra | sweden is completely bombarding saint louis |
| 09:17.19 | g0urra | http://puu.sh/d9S88/bcc0ded2b9.jpg |
| 09:19.02 | g0urra | http://puu.sh/d9SbB/2c5598fa5e.jpg |
| 09:19.43 | karl_w_w | typical swedes |
| 09:20.23 | nevcairiel | looks more like china is bombarding the US |
| 09:21.01 | nevcairiel | also, france, apparently |
| 09:21.13 | g0urra | I didn't manage to screencap sweden's attack |
| 09:22.02 | g0urra | http://puu.sh/d9Sil/dafa95eb34.jpg |
| 09:22.49 | g0urra | http://puu.sh/d9SjV/f2eb10a027.jpg |
| 09:23.48 | g0urra | http://puu.sh/d9Sma/afba2e9764.jpg |
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| 11:38.29 | VIad | foxlit: I am curious about that mission follower assignment thing you mentioned - about assigning to multiple locations? :p |
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| 11:46.27 | nebula169 | in master plan, whats the Pending: x/xx hours text indicating? |
| 11:50.15 | mikma | it's possible that it's there for */xx hours, and you have seen the quest for x/** hours ;) |
| 12:00.53 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:05.39 | mikma | semlar: slowclap it out |
| 12:05.47 | Semlar | :( |
| 12:06.29 | Semlar | i immediately tried to use my glider and it was like ha no you can't use that during a boss fight |
| 12:08.41 | mikma | you just love that chubby hunter, don't you |
| 12:08.52 | nebula169 | can't glider in combat anymore :( |
| 12:08.53 | Semlar | he's not very aerodynamic |
| 12:09.15 | mikma | i love my priest.. he's a gnome priest called Buttblux |
| 12:09.54 | Semlar | those spikes are evidently just for decoration since i fell straight through one |
| 12:11.33 | mikma | semlar: http://pbrd.co/15KgL9J |
| 12:12.04 | Semlar | keep your feet on the ground |
| 12:12.41 | mikma | like my homer? :P |
| 12:12.53 | mikma | i always forget to remove it... :D |
| 12:14.52 | Semlar | he's a bit slobbery |
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| 12:24.10 | Sharparam | hm |
| 12:24.30 | Sharparam | where is the documenter supposed to place the luadoc stuff, i specified "API" in the .docmeta |
| 12:26.08 | Sharparam | the documenter status page says it processed libbodyguard-1-0 |
| 12:32.27 | Torhal | Sharparam: Documenter is flaky as all hell. |
| 12:32.35 | Sharparam | :/ |
| 12:43.17 | karl_w_w | stuck at 633 ilvl -_- |
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| 13:00.09 | karl_w_w | how do these crafted things that say stage 1/2/3 of 3 work? |
| 13:01.09 | nebula169 | you craft it and get 640 armor or a 630 weapon, you craft an upgrade item that you can use on that to get stage 2, craft another item to upgrade to stage 3 |
| 13:03.09 | karl_w_w | seems needlessly complicated |
| 13:05.43 | nebula169 | and takes a shit tonne of mats :\ 100/150/200 of the trade's soulbound mat |
| 13:06.43 | karl_w_w | it seems they just dont want people doing LFR |
| 13:09.23 | nebula169 | whats the ilvl needed for lfr? |
| 13:10.16 | karl_w_w | 635 |
| 13:11.13 | nebula169 | its not that hard to get 640, epic ring + a few pieces of crafted / cm daily / apexis gear |
| 13:12.00 | karl_w_w | apexis gear is 630 until you upgrade it |
| 13:12.14 | nebula169 | sorry, *upgraded apexis gear |
| 13:12.16 | karl_w_w | it costs like 15000 crystals to get the second stage of that |
| 13:12.23 | nebula169 | 11500 |
| 13:12.30 | karl_w_w | plus the first stage |
| 13:12.33 | nebula169 | so 16500 total |
| 13:12.42 | nebula169 | and thats 645 |
| 13:13.02 | karl_w_w | that's at least a week away |
| 13:15.58 | Semlar | i don't even have a 640 average item level and i have quite a lot of CM gear |
| 13:16.23 | Semlar | i don't know what you mean by "not that hard" to get 640 |
| 13:17.24 | nebula169 | find, its not that hard to get 636 |
| 13:17.27 | nebula169 | :p |
| 13:18.03 | nebula169 | fine* |
| 13:18.11 | karl_w_w | yes it is |
| 13:18.22 | Semlar | the majority of decent players are going to be in heroic gear |
| 13:18.35 | nebula169 | three pieces of 640, full heroic, and the ring is 636 |
| 13:19.02 | Semlar | full heroic takes luck because i have literally seen a single heroic trinket drop |
| 13:19.15 | Semlar | and it sucked |
| 13:19.55 | karl_w_w | the ring is 680, and full heroic is "that hard" |
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| 13:21.36 | karl_w_w | I've been damn lucky to get as close as I am |
| 13:24.59 | karl_w_w | oh good and my garrison hearth failed again |
| 13:25.03 | Semlar | yep |
| 13:25.14 | Semlar | time to play the waiting game |
| 13:26.11 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.04 | Semlar | it doesn't help that my 615 trinket is better than my 630 trinket because they broke the itemization |
| 13:28.26 | Semlar | in fact i have a level 600 trinket with more agility than the heroic one |
| 13:29.42 | VIad | tomtom "/way Nagrand 50 50" :3333 |
| 13:35.43 | karl_w_w | i hate stormshield |
| 13:36.10 | Semlar | interrupt it |
| 13:36.16 | karl_w_w | the place |
| 13:36.20 | karl_w_w | it's so disorganised |
| 13:36.20 | Semlar | i see |
| 13:36.28 | karl_w_w | this is meant to be a faction capital? |
| 13:36.54 | karl_w_w | let's just dump NPCs in random places and call it a hub |
| 13:36.56 | karl_w_w | job done |
| 13:38.01 | Semlar | they're in little themed areas in warspear |
| 13:38.26 | Semlar | not that it makes it any easier to navigate |
| 13:41.01 | VIad | btw the joke about /way Nagrand is there are two and it picks the TBC one :p |
| 13:42.22 | karl_w_w | it wasn't a funny joke |
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| 13:57.40 | VIad | maybe we need a special rule like Nagrand2 is the WOD one :3 |
| 14:01.17 | mikma | hmmmmm |
| 14:01.35 | mikma | for some reason InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory doesn't open to the exact optionsframe |
| 14:02.01 | mikma | i need to call it twice :P |
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| 14:02.25 | karl_w_w | I think it's always been like that |
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| 14:05.08 | mikma | http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/bugs/6 |
| 14:05.12 | mikma | yeah, true that karl_w_w |
| 14:07.00 | Constie | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw_2rigYVCo |
| 14:07.06 | Constie | Inn quest rewards are pretty nice sometimes. |
| 14:08.30 | mikma | ain't that engineer item |
| 14:10.02 | Constie | http://www.wowhead.com/item=119093 |
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| 14:24.58 | Fisker | https://twitter.com/ABC/status/538603532199284736 Cairenn |
| 14:25.10 | Fisker | Might want to get more than a mask the next time you get on a plane |
| 14:38.29 | Dagmar | Barbecue sauce. |
| 14:40.32 | jnwhiteh | *yawn* |
| 14:40.35 | jnwhiteh | back in Swedeland |
| 14:40.40 | mikma | like it? |
| 14:44.12 | Fisker | hi jnwhiteh |
| 14:57.28 | mikma | jnwhiteh: how many kilos did you gain weight while visiting the family? :D |
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| 15:09.11 | zenzelezz | that moment when you realize one of your followers in Dragon Age has been running around without a weapon |
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| 15:16.20 | fewyn | getting abrogator stones from work order is hot |
| 15:16.44 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.23 | Fisker | :O |
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| 15:26.04 | karl_w_w | if you're dual weilding does the ilvl calc take both weapons into account or just the best one? |
| 15:26.26 | Simca_ | i think it always takes both slots into account |
| 15:26.35 | Simca_ | just if you're wielding one 2h weapon, it counts it twice |
| 15:26.58 | karl_w_w | jnwhiteh, other tomtom settings are getting remembered, only the arrow location resets |
| 15:27.03 | Fisker | it should do that with dps as well Simca_ |
| 15:27.44 | karl_w_w | also what VIad said; /way nagrand x, y defaults to the outland nagrand instead of draenor |
| 15:28.17 | VIad | not his fault since both zones same name :p |
| 15:30.56 | karl_w_w | it works for shadowmoon valley :P |
| 15:31.43 | Simca_ | he renamed the old SMV to Shadowmoon Valley (Outland) I think |
| 15:31.49 | Simca_ | probably just forgot about nagrand |
| 15:36.01 | Fisker | maybe he renamed the new Nagrand to Nagrand (Draenor) |
| 15:36.48 | karl_w_w | [23:36:42] Could not find any matches for zone Nagrand (Draenor). |
| 15:37.10 | karl_w_w | any US alliance want to do H iron docks? |
| 15:37.22 | Fisker | Not sure why you thought that was a serious suggestion |
| 15:37.35 | Fisker | boo no salvage |
| 15:38.07 | karl_w_w | because I love and idolize you Fisker |
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| 16:28.45 | jleclanche | foxlit: http://dpaste.com/3QZCZA8 |
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| 16:42.30 | Stanzilla | hey jerome |
| 16:54.48 | Stanzilla | foxlit: did I mention masterplan lagging a lot after submitting a mission? |
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| 17:01.30 | zenzelezz | http://gizmodo.com/led-streetlights-will-change-hollywood-and-make-every-c-1514840416 |
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| 17:12.08 | foxlit | jleclanche: Thanks; that's a bit odd - do you recall if it happens at any particular time, eg just after mission start or completion? |
| 17:12.42 | foxlit | Stanzilla: and then I think you said that it didn't anymore. |
| 17:13.00 | Stanzilla | oh yeah |
| 17:13.07 | Stanzilla | maybe that was on another toon |
| 17:13.28 | Simca_ | you said it was in 0.8.1 and it wasn't in 0.8.2 |
| 17:13.31 | Simca_ | iirc |
| 17:13.42 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 17:13.44 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: its probably a simple bug, i'll see if i can reproduce sometime later tonight |
| 17:13.46 | Stanzilla | it doesnt happen all the time |
| 17:14.22 | Simca_ | i ocassionally get some lua errors from the blizzard UI but I haven't noticed any impact |
| 17:14.51 | foxlit | Which isn't too inspiring, as .2 and .1 don't contain significant changes. |
| 17:15.09 | Stanzilla | yeah it's not related to any of those changes |
| 17:15.33 | Stanzilla | it just happens sometimes that it's like 1 to 1.5s for a mission to disappear from the list after I submitted it |
| 17:16.00 | foxlit | No frame rate dip, though? |
| 17:16.28 | jleclanche | foxlit: just after mission completion iirc |
| 17:16.31 | Stanzilla | didn't look at that |
| 17:16.45 | jleclanche | foxlit: only seen it once. |
| 17:17.36 | Simca_ | ROFL |
| 17:17.41 | Simca_ | i love it, foxlit. |
| 17:18.29 | Stanzilla | yeah. fps drop, too |
| 17:18.43 | Xuerian | Simca_: o.O |
| 17:18.52 | Simca_ | http://i.imgur.com/9dO1t3X.png i was going to do this, as usual |
| 17:19.01 | Simca_ | but Master Plan figured out that this is a better configuration than the one i was using: http://i.imgur.com/ngvvchI.png |
| 17:19.15 | Simca_ | you know, because it is so obvious to send level 97 goblins on ilvl 615 missions |
| 17:20.04 | Simca_ | the racial bonus is worth twice as much as the presence of a follower, so it compensates for the loss of the follower in that slot and then some |
| 17:20.07 | Xuerian | haha |
| 17:22.36 | Simca_ | btw: there was no experience calculation for that mission |
| 17:22.43 | Simca_ | but the goblin will get 195 XP |
| 17:24.58 | VIad | Simca_: that isnt master planner is it? |
| 17:25.04 | Simca_ | yeah it is. |
| 17:25.09 | VIad | looks different |
| 17:25.11 | VIad | the eye on the top |
| 17:25.20 | VIad | pending label |
| 17:25.27 | Simca_ | new features |
| 17:25.32 | VIad | I see |
| 17:25.56 | VIad | maybe we should create a matrix to add weights to what trait, racial, e.g. is better combined than others |
| 17:25.58 | Simca_ | pending tracks number of hours before the mission goes away, eye is a dropdown for optimal follower parties |
| 17:26.03 | VIad | to improve the calculation of who to send |
| 17:26.14 | VIad | i.e. perhaps not the proper setup but if chances are higher why not? :p |
| 17:26.38 | VIad | like if you have 3 followers where a<->b benefit each other and a c that benefits from either one of them, racial bonuses will go berserk |
| 17:27.44 | VIad | we have a definitive set of variables and we could make some logic to calculate setups - sounds like a neat idea :p |
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| 17:29.06 | Simca_ | foxlit is doing that through brute force and it surprisingly seems to work ok |
| 17:29.21 | Simca_ | didn't notice any frame rate drops |
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| 17:35.08 | Simca_ | makes me think that the extra bruteforce required to deal with the follower positioning of multiple missions wouldn't be that bad |
| 17:35.29 | Simca_ | though 12800 calculations is a lot different from the million or more you'd need to do that |
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| 17:55.27 | VIad | would be nice to perhaps check what missions you wish to do like |
| 17:55.30 | VIad | "fastest possible" |
| 17:55.47 | VIad | or "find a setup where these missions (select them) can be completed overall below # hours" |
| 17:55.50 | VIad | stuff like that |
| 17:55.56 | VIad | since some traits affect time and such |
| 17:55.59 | Simca_ | actually, it wouldn't be that bad now that i'm thinking about it |
| 17:56.59 | Simca_ | with 25 followers and 20 available missions (nearly impossible), it's 25*24*23 * 20*19*18 to cover the vast majority of situations |
| 17:57.08 | Fisker | Cairenn http://i.imgur.com/FLHRTNv.gif |
| 17:57.47 | VIad | dat cat :D |
| 17:58.21 | Simca_ | well, that's 94.4 million calculations actually, i guess. |
| 17:59.09 | Fisker | cloud computing Simca_ |
| 17:59.28 | Simca_ | you could probably get away with 25*24*23 * 20 |
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| 17:59.53 | Simca_ | just assume each mission is the most important and do the math for those |
| 18:05.03 | Simca_ | actually i'm thinking about that all wrong. calculations for best success for a mission and calculations for best success for all missions would be additive, not multiplicative. you'd store those calculations, so you'd only be dealing with a table with follower IDs relating to desired result (be that XP or gold or whatever) |
| 18:05.15 | Shadowed | There's still no way of getting a list of every frame right |
| 18:05.22 | Shadowed | since CreateFrame doesn't have to be parented |
| 18:07.01 | Iriel | EnumerateFrames ? |
| 18:07.06 | Shadowed | aha! |
| 18:07.09 | Shadowed | I knew there was something |
| 18:07.21 | Shadowed | I thought we had a way of getting events on all frames |
| 18:07.24 | Shadowed | but that must be what I was thinking |
| 18:07.39 | Torhal | Shirik: Is this the proper way to handle in-flight emergencies? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUx3h63Xbpk&feature=share |
| 18:07.43 | Iriel | Itâs pretty effective. |
| 18:07.49 | Iriel | At finding everything. |
| 18:09.04 | Shadowed | thanks Iriel |
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| 18:35.46 | VIad | thanks Thunder_Child |
| 18:35.52 | VIad | Torhal* |
| 18:35.52 | VIad | :P |
| 18:36.41 | Simca_ | Torhal_Child |
| 18:36.58 | Torhal | :P |
| 18:37.01 | Thunder_Child | Both of you need a timeout. |
| 18:37.07 | Simca_ | lolol |
| 18:37.16 | VIad | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/rollhistory/images/1-example/ :D |
| 18:37.34 | VIad | simple yet so handy! couldn't find anything else simple like that so I made it :p |
| 18:38.35 | mikma | http://eroakirkosta.fi/static/ek-tilastot/vuodet.png :D |
| 18:38.49 | mikma | (resigning from church) |
| 18:40.51 | Maldivia | what happened in 2010? |
| 18:40.55 | mikma | the spike in 2010 was the "gay-evening" hosted in the telly |
| 18:41.06 | mikma | there was this anti-gay spokeswoman bashing gays |
| 18:41.17 | mikma | and people got extremely pissed off because it and that was the result |
| 18:41.27 | Maldivia | nice |
| 18:41.59 | mikma | this years spice started yesterday after the vote about legalizing gay marriages got passed and forwarded |
| 18:42.19 | mikma | some bishop said that it's a good thing the vote passed and he is happy for the rainbow people |
| 18:42.44 | mikma | so conservative people got pissed off about that and started to resign from the church |
| 18:42.59 | mikma | spice=spike |
| 18:43.27 | mikma | people are idiots, but they do vote with their wallets |
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| 18:43.38 | mikma | because the churchtax is pretty horrible in finland |
| 18:43.55 | Maldivia | how high? |
| 18:44.06 | mikma | depends where you live |
| 18:44.34 | Maldivia | I know in Denmark, church-tax is between about 0.4%-1.5% |
| 18:44.47 | mikma | where i live, and depending how much people earn, it's 1,5% |
| 18:45.16 | mikma | person earning 24000e / year would have 278,83e as churchtax |
| 18:46.28 | mikma | oh, and also depends in which church you belong into |
| 18:46.54 | mikma | http://eroakirkosta.fi/static/data/vero2012.txt |
| 18:47.06 | mikma | (evl-% is the most common) |
| 18:47.37 | mikma | 1.0-2.0% apparently |
| 18:48.03 | Maldivia | apparently, the average is 0.89% in Denmark |
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| 18:52.07 | Simca_ | sigh |
| 18:52.18 | Simca_ | finally got the last piece of the mission success equation in place |
| 18:52.23 | mikma | GAH! Curse admins need to wake up and approve my addons, god damnit. |
| 18:52.59 | Simca_ | it was the bit that increases success when your follower is overleveled for the mission |
| 18:53.08 | Simca_ | instead of being like all the other multipliers |
| 18:53.16 | Simca_ | this one is applied ONLY to the value of the follower's presence |
| 18:54.39 | Maldivia | well, that makes sense |
| 18:54.56 | Gnarfoz | pretty sure Stanzilla is awake, mikma! |
| 18:55.42 | mikma | stanzilla: .. you bastard! |
| 18:56.56 | Simca_ | Maldivia: not a lot of it |
| 18:57.07 | Simca_ | the multiplier for being underleveled is applied to everything |
| 18:57.17 | Simca_ | so it is the one for being underitemleveled |
| 18:57.25 | Simca_ | so is* |
| 19:00.13 | Maldivia | hmm, ok |
| 19:01.16 | Xuerian | VIad: XLoot Group does that, but it doesn't store it anywhere. |
| 19:02.18 | Xuerian | mostly because /loot exists. |
| 19:02.34 | VIad | I know Xuerian - but I just wanted to minimally change the regular roll frame as it was the only feature I used in that module :D |
| 19:03.02 | VIad | of course. it's just enough to see who picked what as you are deciding imo. |
| 19:03.32 | Xuerian | useful if you can tolerate the default roll frames |
| 19:03.41 | VIad | of course! |
| 19:03.53 | Simca_ | it's just a frame with a couple of buttons, pretty easy to tolerate |
| 19:04.05 | Simca_ | also /loot is fairly useless if you have more than 5 people |
| 19:04.40 | Simca_ | so you got a download from me! |
| 19:05.30 | Torhal | mikma: Erm, it's been approved for quite awhile now. |
| 19:05.45 | foxlit | znf: garrison api doesn't provide an updated mission list until a server roundtrip. |
| 19:06.08 | Torhal | [11:55:36] <Repo>[WoW] New addon: Stamp - http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/stamp/ |
| 19:06.08 | Torhal | [12:52:23] <mikma>GAH! Curse admins need to wake up and approve my addons, god damnit. |
| 19:06.11 | Torhal | :P |
| 19:06.48 | Torhal | Though you might want to set the release type to Release - it's currently Planning. |
| 19:07.30 | foxlit | which seems to be roughly 150ms around here. Blizzard_GarrisonUI is a bit silly and performs multiple "updates" on everything with the old data, which is eating some milliseconds doing nothing. |
| 19:08.55 | znf | foxlit, actually I asked something else - how did you get the "Pending" data for missions - ie: when they expire |
| 19:09.05 | foxlit | Stanzilla: (not znf) if you can replicate significant lag reliably, screenshot an /eventtrace around the time you complete a mission, would be an interesting thing to crosscheck. |
| 19:09.24 | znf | foxlit, or is it a guesswork? :) |
| 19:10.31 | Simca_ | there is a db2 field with time data that i didn't know of |
| 19:10.40 | foxlit | it's an educated guess. |
| 19:10.42 | Simca_ | well i mean i marked it as unknown in my personal copy |
| 19:11.29 | Simca_ | my initial guess was cooldown times, but it could be availability times |
| 19:15.52 | Simca_ | foxlit: clicking the complete mission button is doing nothing |
| 19:16.07 | Simca_ | any debug info i could collect to help replicate it before i close it or do it manually? |
| 19:16.25 | foxlit | when you say doing nothing... |
| 19:16.46 | Simca_ | the button indents as clicked and after i release it, literally nothing changes visibly |
| 19:16.51 | Simca_ | http://i.imgur.com/zrlrwbX.jpg |
| 19:17.13 | foxlit | okay, sec |
| 19:19.07 | foxlit | is it making any noise as you click it? |
| 19:19.33 | foxlit | after checking that, hit the "x" on the Garrison Mission Report dialog, then click the Active Missions tab. |
| 19:19.56 | znf | foxlit, am I correct to say that you don't start tracking the mission as soon as it becomes available? |
| 19:20.17 | znf | ie: if I never went to the actual mission table |
| 19:20.43 | znf | (but I was able to see the mission in the Garrison Report) |
| 19:20.53 | foxlit | garrison report counts. |
| 19:20.57 | Simca_ | he probably tracks it in the world, it wouldn't make sense otherwise. the game sends continuous mission updates because it needs them for the minimap. |
| 19:21.20 | foxlit | you still need to open it, though. LoD drawback. |
| 19:21.29 | znf | Hmmm. Well, this is weird then, I had some missions for a few hours, but the counter is still 0/XX |
| 19:22.02 | Simca_ | also, i had to exit it to up my sound volume, and another mission completed while it was closed. when i reopened it, it momentairly had both missions on the list, then it flickered for a second and became this |
| 19:22.10 | znf | but I'm still very curious as to how you guessed the missions times :D |
| 19:22.28 | Simca_ | http://i.imgur.com/ws6sqsh.jpg |
| 19:22.32 | znf | ie: what makes this be 16 hours only? http://i.imgur.com/nnOI0Ow.png |
| 19:22.58 | foxlit | I think you should check back in 6 hours. For science. |
| 19:23.11 | znf | will do :P |
| 19:23.20 | znf | I don't plan on doing that mission anyway |
| 19:23.45 | znf | (I mean, really, lvl93, 10 hours? fuck that) |
| 19:24.09 | Simca_ | yeah those are terrible |
| 19:24.37 | nevcairiel | i usually throw two epic mounts in those for leveling |
| 19:24.43 | mikma | two? |
| 19:24.47 | mikma | that cuts it to 2h? |
| 19:25.01 | nevcairiel | 2.5 i guess |
| 19:25.07 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.20 | Gnarfoz | yeah, waiting on my epic mount guys to come back home |
| 19:25.24 | Simca_ | ha, so you are using col 8 of garrmission then |
| 19:25.25 | Gnarfoz | 10 h mission ftl |
| 19:26.47 | Simca_ | i figured out those IDs after the name column are playerConditionIDs |
| 19:27.24 | Simca_ | I think they act as quests and are triggered when leveling when you complete a specific mission |
| 19:27.50 | Simca_ | like when you start at level 90, you -always- get the mission to inspect the crash site |
| 19:27.53 | Simca_ | then you get 2 others |
| 19:27.56 | Simca_ | then more and then more |
| 19:28.22 | Simca_ | there is a tree of 'mandatory missions' and i believe they're structured with those playerConditionIDs |
| 19:29.39 | Simca_ | a recording addon could probably figure out the structure by watching for new missions to appear after each mission is marked complete |
| 19:29.46 | Maldivia | 10h missions are great when you're going to bed :) |
| 19:29.59 | mikma | aye |
| 19:30.12 | Simca_ | i always sleep for 6-8h and am pissed when i can't send followers out in the morning then :< |
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| 19:34.03 | Gnarfoz | win-win solution: sleep more |
| 19:34.25 | mikma | simca_: my solution: put the missions on, sleep for 6h and work for 8h+ and then come and see the result |
| 19:35.01 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/Hkai5aU.png |
| 19:35.08 | znf | rather |
| 19:35.23 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/rRnNeXW.png |
| 19:35.54 | znf | does it make sense to show the total XP gained? instead of the per follower |
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| 19:39.16 | znf | foxlit, personal oppinion, your button takes an extra click to do stuff :D |
| 19:39.26 | foxlit | znf: try hovering over it |
| 19:39.56 | znf | oh |
| 19:39.58 | znf | that takes a while :D |
| 19:40.10 | znf | like, 3 seconds? |
| 19:40.21 | Simca_ | yeah, 3 |
| 19:40.54 | kd3 | ooh, life v taeja in game 4 right now |
| 19:40.55 | znf | personally I'd like to have them inline there somehow, makes it easier to view them at a glance and requires no extra clicks/time hovering :P |
| 19:41.27 | Simca_ | i don't know how you could do that without altering the default UI |
| 19:42.17 | Simca_ | i think decreasing the hover time to 1-1.5 seconds is enough |
| 19:57.49 | Simca_ | i wanted to see if these level 3 mine guards were actually doing anything, since my mine is still full of goren |
| 19:57.58 | Simca_ | so i followed one from spawn |
| 19:58.01 | foxlit | it's 1+something seconds, but it doesn't really matter -- clicking takes less time. |
| 19:58.25 | Simca_ | he eventually patrolled into a goren, where he fought it and lost badly and died. |
| 19:58.45 | znf | Simca_, http://i.imgur.com/KKwrGmm.png |
| 19:58.54 | Simca_ | goren had 40% hp left when he died and went back to full instantly, presumably ready to slaughter the next guard dumb enough to patrol there |
| 19:59.00 | znf | like that? |
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| 19:59.09 | znf | 3 buttons instead of the eye? |
| 19:59.25 | Simca_ | maybe. if the zone names don't get too long |
| 19:59.37 | znf | right now I don't think there's any zone that has a long name |
| 19:59.56 | Simca_ | Northrend Academy of Dance i think is the longest |
| 20:00.24 | znf | I was thinking Upper Blackrock Spire |
| 20:00.43 | Simca_ | Shadowmoon Burial Grounds is longer than that |
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| 20:06.26 | foxlit | There may be more than 3 groups in the future. |
| 20:12.26 | foxlit | [at the moment, the hover logic is there just to be cute when people say "But it's an extra click!"] |
| 20:15.29 | Mr_Rabies | hmm |
| 20:15.53 | Mr_Rabies | do the followers with +% to xp gained apply that bonus to bonus xp too or just base xp? |
| 20:17.20 | fewyn | electric blankets are neat |
| 20:22.16 | znf | Mr_Rabies, yes |
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| 20:28.43 | Mr_Rabies | do invasion quests stay up indefinitely if you don't tend to them? |
| 20:28.54 | Mr_Rabies | kinda want to wait for some friends to be online before i start mine |
| 20:29.30 | Shirik | Torhal: definitely; the little gas masks that pop out are actually evaporated vodka |
| 20:39.37 | Xuerian | Mr_Rabies: 12-36 hours afaik |
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| 20:57.45 | Maldivia | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpfWrh1scZU -- so much better than the original :D |
| 20:59.12 | mikma | So... my addon is approved in curseforge. how do i get it into curse now? |
| 20:59.51 | kd3 | there should be a 'publish to curse' button iirc |
| 21:00.01 | kd3 | once it's on beta/release stage |
| 21:00.03 | Simca_ | torhal told you the issue earlier when you asked |
| 21:00.10 | Simca_ | it's listed as being in the planning stage |
| 21:00.12 | Simca_ | change that |
| 21:00.13 | Torhal | I think mikma is just on drugs: |
| 21:00.24 | Torhal | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/stamp |
| 21:00.31 | Torhal | And no, I didn't do anything to put it there. |
| 21:00.38 | mikma | hmmmmmmmh? |
| 21:00.44 | Torhal | Though the release type still says "Planning" so it won't show in searches. |
| 21:00.54 | mikma | yeah i just changed those |
| 21:01.08 | mikma | they weren't visible because of that incorrect "planning" ? |
| 21:01.13 | Torhal | Yes. |
| 21:01.16 | Gnarfoz | that's what he said earlier |
| 21:01.24 | mikma | that's what he said |
| 21:01.35 | mikma | sneaky fucker that dropdownbox |
| 21:01.48 | Gnarfoz | (and I think those kind of states also put a big red warning on your project's page that it's not going to be syndicated to curse.com) |
| 21:02.01 | Gnarfoz | (at least that's true for some other situations, not sure about this one) |
| 21:02.08 | Simca_ | (it is true for this one) |
| 21:02.19 | mikma | only big red warning i got was that the addon needs to be approved |
| 21:02.24 | mikma | and it was gone when it was |
| 21:03.02 | Simca_ | i think it's only on the settings page itself; if was marked as experimental it would be on the main page as a warning too |
| 21:03.41 | Gnarfoz | right, that's the one I was thinking of |
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| 21:04.45 | Mr_Rabies | weird |
| 21:04.57 | Mr_Rabies | my altoholic suddenly suggesting a release version from october |
| 21:05.32 | Mr_Rabies | er well curse client is |
| 21:07.49 | mikma | eh... Your garrison is under attack! but where? :P |
| 21:16.11 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: do you play wow with ipv6? |
| 21:16.15 | jleclanche | does anyone here actually? |
| 21:16.17 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:16.21 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz too |
| 21:16.23 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: have you noticed any lag? |
| 21:16.25 | JTF195 | i wish :( |
| 21:16.33 | jleclanche | like, very regular latency spikes every 20-30 sec |
| 21:16.34 | nevcairiel | no, works fine |
| 21:16.36 | jleclanche | k |
| 21:16.56 | nevcairiel | in fact, when wow has serious login problems for everyon else, you can usually breeze just by them using ipv6 xD |
| 21:17.37 | JTF195 | i want ipv6 :( |
| 21:20.11 | Gnarfoz | no problems here either, besides my ISP sometimes simply not allocating me new v6 subnets |
| 21:23.19 | karl_w_w | my ISP still has no v6 support |
| 21:23.31 | kd3 | wtf is forGG doing? |
| 21:26.17 | JTF195 | i have Verizon FiOS and still no IPv6 either |
| 21:26.34 | karl_w_w | nobody cares about SC2 :D |
| 21:28.10 | JTF195 | i'm even paying extra for the business tier with a static IP, and still no v6 |
| 21:28.22 | karl_w_w | 270k watching CS (cheating controversy hype), 81k watching dota, 44k watching sc2 |
| 21:34.04 | jleclanche | does anyone know of an api that would let an addon measure latency to the server, but that isn't the latency info the game menu shows? |
| 21:34.15 | jleclanche | eg something that would send a request and immediately expect an event |
| 21:34.45 | jleclanche | and preferable something that can be measured several times a second |
| 21:37.47 | karl_w_w | maybe some channel events |
| 21:38.00 | karl_w_w | chat channels I mean |
| 21:38.37 | karl_w_w | so if you join a channel I'd expect something to fire maybe CHANNEL_FLAGS_UPDATED |
| 21:38.58 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: would it be hard to make the garrison frame movable? :o |
| 21:39.51 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: I don't see why it would be. However, I also don't see any particular benefits. |
| 21:40.08 | Gnarfoz | it's in the way! :( |
| 21:40.13 | foxlit | of what? |
| 21:40.16 | Gnarfoz | of everything! :D |
| 21:40.21 | foxlit | then why is it open? |
| 21:40.43 | Gnarfoz | because :( |
| 21:41.10 | Gnarfoz | seriously, though, I'm using both yours and CompactMissions, and it's annoying :D |
| 21:41.38 | Gnarfoz | I bet I could more or less simply do it myself, it's probably just :SetMovable(true) and that's all? |
| 21:42.01 | foxlit | I'm not sure it has a title region, but yes. |
| 21:43.35 | karl_w_w | jnwhiteh, or changing role and waiting for ROLE_CHANGED_INFORM |
| 21:44.33 | foxlit | can probably throw something like moveanything at it. Still think "everything" is a sucky answer; maybe "chat", but that's really the only thing of interest you could be interacting with at the same time. |
| 21:45.16 | Simca_ | well in this case he said it was CompactMissions' UI, which is a separate frame from the Garrison frame |
| 21:45.30 | karl_w_w | WORLD_MAP_UPDATE last one I can think of |
| 21:47.12 | Gnarfoz | besides my actual example, I find it unnecessary to make something not movable for no particular reason (but that's obviously on Blizz, not on you ^^) |
| 21:47.49 | Gnarfoz | who to upgrade? :o need more ilvl on my followers! |
| 21:48.02 | Gnarfoz | are there missions with ilvl 645 requirement? |
| 21:48.03 | foxlit | they really don't want panel-managed frames to overlap |
| 21:48.18 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure what that means |
| 21:48.48 | Gnarfoz | the ones like character frame, spell book, that push each other to the side? |
| 21:48.52 | foxlit | yes. |
| 21:49.06 | Gnarfoz | and the garrison one is too big for that, mhm |
| 21:49.10 | foxlit | the old quest log, gossip frames, trade skill UI, dungeon/pvp finders, etc. |
| 21:50.07 | Gnarfoz | didn't MoveAnything have serious taint problems at some point? I know I used FluidFrames for the longest time, but it hasn't been fixed for 6.0, yet |
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| 21:51.29 | foxlit | should not be possible, really. |
| 21:51.46 | karl_w_w | well overachiever makes the achievement frame moveable and it doesn't cause problems |
| 21:52.04 | Gnarfoz | not specifically related to moving these kinds of frames |
| 21:53.06 | Amarande | so, did the script kiddies finally move on? |
| 21:54.36 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 21:54.55 | Gnarfoz | :EnableMouse(true) and :SetMovable(true) are not enough? :\ |
| 21:55.10 | plaw | android nethack update woohoo |
| 21:55.45 | Amarande | plaw: has nethack even gotten an update in general in aeons? I'd think an Android version would be basically one-and-done |
| 21:56.24 | plaw | Amarande: there was a post a week or two ago by the dev team saying that a certain game 'update' getting around was very fake |
| 21:56.33 | plaw | which leads one to believe it's still being worked on |
| 21:57.07 | karl_w_w | what do you call a place with no laws |
| 21:57.12 | Amarande | like, I thought it had basically been 3.4.3 for like forever now |
| 21:57.27 | karl_w_w | like in a film when society breaks down cos of some catastrophe |
| 21:57.33 | Amarande | karl: you call it either absolute chaos or utopia, depending as to the natures of its inhabitants |
| 21:57.33 | plaw | apparently the android port is tricky because of (a) platform updates (b) few people play it (c) out of (b), fewer are technically literate enough to give useful feedback |
| 21:57.44 | Amarande | but I think the word you mean is 'anarchy' |
| 21:57.52 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: anarchy...? :D |
| 21:58.13 | karl_w_w | no anarchy is one of the aspects of it |
| 21:58.21 | karl_w_w | its the opposite of utopia |
| 21:59.19 | Amarande | Dystopia |
| 21:59.31 | karl_w_w | yeah! |
| 21:59.39 | jleclanche | so my realm (bloodhoof) merged with khadgar |
| 21:59.53 | jleclanche | the neat thing about that |
| 21:59.54 | kd3 | what pet name has /2 given it? |
| 21:59.56 | jleclanche | i now have 22 character slots |
| 21:59.59 | kd3 | khadhoof? bloodgar? |
| 22:00.02 | Amarande | although actually, dystopias are rarely anarchic it seems |
| 22:00.11 | Amarande | one of the usual characteristics of dystopias actually tends to be totalitarianism |
| 22:00.30 | jleclanche | isn't this fucking awesome tho |
| 22:00.55 | Gnarfoz | do I have to remove the frame from some kind of list first? |
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| 22:06.10 | Gnarfoz | woah I'm almost not dumb! |
| 22:06.37 | Gnarfoz | setting scripts for OnMouseDown and OnMouseUp to StartMoving() and StopMovingOrSizing() totally works |
| 22:09.53 | nevcairiel | almost |
| 22:10.21 | Amarande | karl: keep in mind that things like 1984 and Hunger Games are considered dystopian as well |
| 22:12.41 | Gnarfoz | need to stay realistic |
| 22:20.04 | plaw | lol jleclanche |
| 22:20.47 | jleclanche | plaw: i invited my alt, with the same name as me, in my guild |
| 22:21.01 | plaw | excellent |
| 22:21.02 | jleclanche | plaw: it's super weird. I'm now Adys-Bloodhoof when i speak in gchat and there's an Adys-Khadgar |
| 22:21.14 | jleclanche | i bet Cairne is taken |
| 22:21.15 | jleclanche | :( |
| 22:21.27 | nevcairiel | its probably blacklisted if not taken |
| 22:21.29 | plaw | reserved |
| 22:21.45 | plaw | could probably go for one of those whack utf spellings maybe |
| 22:21.46 | nevcairiel | but yeah, it starts doing the name thing when its no longer unique |
| 22:21.58 | nevcairiel | can get reported and forced to change |
| 22:22.02 | jleclanche | yeah cairne is blacklisted |
| 22:22.19 | jleclanche | "you already have the maximum number of characters allowed on this account" |
| 22:22.19 | jleclanche | die |
| 22:22.34 | Kalroth | pls buy another |
| 22:22.41 | plaw | ahahahaha |
| 22:22.45 | nevcairiel | 50 chars? :d |
| 22:22.47 | jleclanche | yes |
| 22:22.48 | Simca_ | lololol |
| 22:23.13 | Amarande | wow, I thought the whole Name-Server thing was designed to AVOID making people change names |
| 22:23.22 | Amarande | now they're starting to force names to be unique per cluster? |
| 22:23.26 | jleclanche | what? no |
| 22:23.27 | Simca_ | no |
| 22:23.35 | jleclanche | they're giving me a -Bloodhoof suffix |
| 22:23.44 | Amarande | Ah, heh |
| 22:24.00 | Amarande | c'mon now, that fad ran its course during Wrath :p |
| 22:24.09 | jleclanche | what fad |
| 22:24.17 | Amarande | lore character naming |
| 22:24.39 | Simca_ | so many arthas dks |
| 22:24.40 | Amarande | Wrath of the Lich King, Or: How we learned just how many accents may be used with the letter "A" |
| 22:24.42 | Amarande | heh |
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| 22:25.13 | jleclanche | that was a lame fad |
| 22:25.39 | jleclanche | and it didnt die in wrath, it died in vanilla beta with légolass |
| 22:25.52 | jleclanche | being called Cairne-Bloodhoof is pretty awesome. |
| 22:26.13 | jleclanche | also, cairne is blacklisted but illidan isn't |
| 22:27.03 | Amarande | huh. wonder if it's because Illidan wasn't an NPC yet in Vanilla? |
| 22:27.17 | Gnarfoz | you're such a fad |
| 22:27.29 | Amarande | it's something like, if it's the name of an in game character it's blacklisted, right? |
| 22:27.31 | jleclanche | sometimes i think you wonder the wrong stuff Amarande |
| 22:28.09 | Amarande | jleclanche: also remember that Gnarfoz has me on ignore, so he's not seeing the full conversation :P |
| 22:29.17 | jleclanche | yeah, you know what, that's a really good thing to remind me |
| 22:34.49 | Amarande | yeah, it's a major reason I don't use ignore. it makes conversations look strange and it easy to take other people's comments out of context |
| 22:35.00 | Amarande | so I pretty much only use it on bots :p |
| 22:38.24 | fewyn | nestle tollhouse cookies kinda suck |
| 22:40.28 | Amarande | yeah, I'm not particularly fond of Nestle products lately |
| 22:40.40 | Amarande | I buy the occasional Tombstone or Stouffer's meal but that's about it |
| 22:50.32 | Amarande | DiGiornos are decent but they cost as much as a pizzeria pizza now around here heh |
| 22:50.49 | plaw | ah, the android nethack update fixing a few bugs but introduces lollipop compatibility |
| 23:03.57 | Gnarfoz | check back later for more missions!!11 >_> |
| 23:04.05 | Amarande | fewyn, is Gilgamesh ever not full at any time that isn't 3 in the morning btw? :( |
| 23:04.07 | Gnarfoz | Leorajh is missing 173 XP for epicness |
| 23:04.51 | Amarande | and now I can't roll on eu-shiva either, that's full too ... next update's not for another two hours |
| 23:04.59 | Amarande | hah, I've had times where the game will leave me like, single digit XP short of leveling |
| 23:05.12 | Amarande | oh right, you have me on ignore |
| 23:07.15 | Ressy | foxlit: My guild's pretty much made Master Plan a required addon now. lol |
| 23:10.08 | kd3 | life's made pulled out of the hole, it's 3-2, game 6 on now: http://twitch.tv/dreamhacksc2 |
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| 23:12.25 | Gnarfoz | thanks for linking context |
| 23:12.46 | kd3 | s/made pulled out/pulled it out/ |
| 23:12.55 | Simca_ | kd3: so tempting to watch instead of doing work lol |
| 23:16.54 | Amarande | rofl. someone in another channel just thought Dalaran was a night elf beginner area |
| 23:24.30 | fewyn | Amarande nope |
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| 23:28.22 | Torhal | Ressy: Wait, what? |
| 23:29.45 | *** join/#wowuidev alestane (~nevin@c-71-232-236-233.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:29.47 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v alestane] by ChanServ |
| 23:30.09 | Ressy | Torhal: Yeah.. |
| 23:30.15 | Ressy | everyone's raving about it. |
| 23:30.17 | Torhal | I'm confused. |
| 23:30.27 | Torhal | Why would that be a guild requirement? |
| 23:30.29 | Iriel | Is Master Plan on wowinterface - minion couldnât find it yesterday? |
| 23:30.45 | Ressy | Torhal: unofficial. |
| 23:30.59 | Torhal | http://wow.joystiq.com/2014/11/29/master-plan-addon-makes-mission-and-follower-management-a-breeze/ |
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| 23:33.46 | mikma | torhal: don't boost his ego! |
| 23:33.56 | mikma | torhal: he'll be soon so powerful that he can't be stopped |
| 23:34.50 | Torhal | :O |
| 23:34.58 | Gnarfoz | isn't he already |
| 23:40.42 | Gnarfoz | why is there two pvp items with identical stats, for each chest/hands/feet/legs/head, one of them part of the pvp set and one not? oO |
| 23:43.21 | mikma | for the lulz |
| 23:43.37 | Gnarfoz | never mind, one is class-specific |
| 23:55.57 | foxlit | there's a cap on follower item levels, right? |
| 23:57.53 | fewyn | 650 |
| 23:57.54 | fewyn | iirc |
