| 00:00.50 | znf | yes it would |
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| 00:01.40 | znf | Simca_, so, write a data collection thingie :D |
| 00:02.07 | znf | I know you can do it! |
| 00:03.20 | Mr_Rabies | finally http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/virtual-piano |
| 00:03.25 | Mr_Rabies | what we've all been asking for |
| 00:05.36 | Constie | I can finally be a Bard. |
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| 00:06.41 | Constie | Could I somehow utilize some manner of deep wizardry to make that work with my physical MIDI keyboard using AutoHotkey or something? |
| 00:07.27 | Ivnedar | can you bind abilities to the keys? |
| 00:08.05 | Mr_Rabies | almost certain there's some kind of midi keyboard -> real keyboard interface of some sort |
| 00:08.17 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 00:08.22 | Mr_Rabies | midi->pc keyboard |
| 00:08.43 | Simca_ | you wouldn't even need to fake it, constie. assuming the addon supports custom binds and you have some sort of program that can intrepret it as a normal keyboard |
| 00:11.18 | Constie | ilvl 638, have mic, can play Vampire Killer during boss fights |
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| 00:16.33 | Gwythian | Can anyone recommend a good place to start for someone who has some background in Java but no Lua on getting started on programming addons for WoW? |
| 00:16.49 | kd3 | ~wowprogramming |
| 00:16.49 | purl | somebody said wowprogramming was World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 00:17.12 | kd3 | also, the documentation on sites like wowpedia (http://wowpedia.org) and blizzard's own code |
| 00:17.14 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 00:17.14 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml. ExportInterfaceFiles code in the console |
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| 00:23.56 | nebula169 | damit sb, why is your broker icon so much smaller compared to default icons z.z |
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| 00:29.50 | Torhal | nebula169: Looks the same height-wise. I'm assuming the texture has an alpha channel on the sides. |
| 00:31.08 | nebula169 | nope http://i.imgur.com/xPRVd04.jpg |
| 00:31.17 | Stanzilla | Shadowed: ping |
| 00:33.04 | Torhal | nebula169: Huh. What display are you using? Maybe Bazooka corrects it for us. |
| 00:33.13 | nebula169 | thats with the texture zoomed a bit, too |
| 00:33.26 | tz | chocolatebar has it smaller then normal too, never really noticed it until now |
| 00:33.43 | nebula169 | Torhal: its fortress |
| 00:33.56 | Stanzilla | hipster addon |
| 00:34.10 | Torhal | nebula169: This is what I see: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8m5epzo857wbv7h/Screenshot%202014-11-27%2018.33.49.png?dl=0 |
| 00:35.39 | nebula169 | its annoying because it's off center, so i can't even increase the size to make it match ;[ |
| 00:36.02 | tz | http://i.imgur.com/Ap5Yzyr.png is mine |
| 00:36.12 | tz | they're in a different segment which is why I never noticed |
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| 00:36.28 | Stanzilla | there are many broker displays but this one is mine |
| 00:39.22 | kd3 | :( Get a BoE drop, but it's 609 blue ring |
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| 00:45.15 | znf | Whoever had the brilliant idea of the water-walking mount to lose it's waterwalking ability in combat should be bitchslapped |
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| 00:50.07 | Stanzilla | agree |
| 01:16.37 | Torhal | I have 1337 Apexis Crystals, Fisker. |
| 01:16.51 | znf | I have 17603 |
| 01:41.42 | Amarande | speaking of Apexis crystals I'm guessing the ones from the future don't work in the past? |
| 01:42.34 | Amarande | znf: it's probably some sort of generic water walking code |
| 01:42.44 | Amarande | if you recall, every other water walk ability in the game is canceled on taking damage |
| 01:42.44 | znf | Amarande, doubt it |
| 01:42.49 | znf | it wasn't like that on the mount |
| 01:42.53 | znf | this is new in 6.0 |
| 01:43.14 | Amarande | yeah, probably changed to harmonise it with other water walk abilities |
| 01:45.09 | znf | in other news |
| 01:45.23 | znf | I hate websites that log you out of your session when you change IP |
| 01:45.47 | Amarande | znf: eh, not as bad as when a website glitches and you have to clear your cookies to fix it |
| 01:45.51 | Amarande | yay! you get to log back in EVERYWHERE! |
| 01:46.01 | znf | ...I just delete that cookie >_< |
| 01:48.47 | Trela | znf: Sorry. :( |
| 01:49.42 | znf | I can understand it for websites that guard some important data... say my banking account, my email etc. |
| 01:49.49 | znf | but my wowhead and/or imgur account?! >_< |
| 01:50.31 | Trela | All of Gamepedia/Wowpedia does that. I wrote it specifically to be sticky to the IP address. >_> |
| 01:51.32 | znf | What's the reason? |
| 01:51.38 | znf | You're just pissing off people who use a laptop |
| 01:51.50 | Trela | Unable to spoof a session with XSS. |
| 01:51.58 | znf | It's a gaming website :-| |
| 01:52.24 | kd3 | ...and? |
| 01:52.31 | Trela | It uses AES 512 encryption too. :| |
| 01:52.36 | znf | wowhead is the most annoying |
| 01:52.38 | znf | browse stuff |
| 01:52.41 | znf | try to upvote |
| 01:52.44 | znf | "you must be logged in" |
| 01:52.49 | znf | well, fuck you, then, no upvotes! |
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| 02:05.11 | Semlar | stop changing ips |
| 02:07.37 | Amarande | Semlar: make ipv6 universal |
| 02:19.08 | Ivnedar | oh yay, au armory is up at last |
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| 02:25.49 | Torhal | Amarande: New Apexis Crystals are currencies. Old are items. |
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| 02:55.25 | Shirik | ok I need the stupidest mac OS help ever |
| 02:55.34 | Shirik | how the hell do I view the root drive in finder? |
| 02:56.16 | Shirik | or am I not supposed to be using finder this way |
| 02:56.19 | Stanzilla | Shirik: it is hidden by default (yes) |
| 02:56.21 | Stanzilla | go to finder settings |
| 02:56.28 | Stanzilla | and enable "my mac" or whatever it is called |
| 02:56.54 | Stanzilla | then it shows up on the left side |
| 02:57.09 | Shirik | thanks |
| 02:57.10 | Shirik | got it |
| 02:57.13 | Stanzilla | np |
| 03:04.39 | Stanzilla | foxlit: http://paste2.org/K0FWNIAX |
| 03:21.48 | znf | Simca_, where's my addon? |
| 03:30.13 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/JDuG35E.png |
| 03:30.13 | znf | ?! |
| 03:30.20 | znf | I haven't been to the "mainland" in weeks |
| 03:32.39 | Stanzilla | random world drop |
| 03:34.06 | Semlar | salvage? |
| 03:38.25 | znf | oh, good point Semlar |
| 03:38.32 | znf | didn't check the bags when I opened those |
| 03:39.05 | znf | gotta be shitting me |
| 03:39.06 | znf | again UBRS |
| 03:42.53 | Semlar | i heard you like ubrs |
| 03:47.29 | Stanzilla | I do |
| 03:47.31 | Stanzilla | tanked it today |
| 03:47.33 | Stanzilla | was fun |
| 03:52.08 | Amarande | aright guys, let's do this, LEEEEEEEEROY Jenkins! |
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| 03:55.43 | Mesaph | Hi guys. I'm trying my hands at wow addon development, but i have a problem: The game just doesnt load my .lua file. Loading an .xml file works fine, but neither referencing the .lua file in the .toc nor within a <script> tag does work (the .lua file just contains message("test"); , so i'm pretty sure it does not run) |
| 03:56.01 | Mesaph | Anyone got any ideas? |
| 03:59.10 | kd3 | if your addon is called MyAddon, in the /path/to/wow/Interface/AddOns/MyAddon folder, make sure the .toc file is called "MyAddon.toc" and that it's referring to files that existed before the wow client got started |
| 03:59.39 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/AddOn_programming_introduction |
| 03:59.43 | Mesaph | ah ... well the last part could actually be the problem :) |
| 04:00.14 | kd3 | you can modify files all you want, but to add new files, you must completely exit and restart the client |
| 04:01.56 | Mesaph | Well ... nope. It still does not load the file. |
| 04:02.17 | Mesaph | The .toc file is named correctly - I have an xml file in there that works perfectly fine |
| 04:02.35 | kd3 | check wow/logs/FrameXML.log for anything with your addon name in it |
| 04:04.07 | Mesaph | Ah. "Error loading Interface\AddOns\MyAddon\MyAddon.lua" .. is there any way to get a more detailed error message? |
| 04:04.43 | kd3 | not really. check for missing parentheses, brackets, or quotes somewhere |
| 04:06.06 | Iriel | if you have command line lua installed then you can have it try and parse the file |
| 04:06.22 | Iriel | luac -p whatever.lua |
| 04:06.28 | Mesaph | Oh well. Nevermind. I'm just a complete idiot who cannot type a filename correctly ... |
| 04:06.57 | kd3 | oh, right. if it was having trouble parsing, you'd get a line number in the error message |
| 04:07.23 | Mesaph | thanks anyway. Maybe I shouldn't do this stuff at 5am ... |
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| 04:31.56 | Mesaph | So ... i want to hook into the function GarrisonLandingPageTab_OnClick(). If I run GarrisonLandingPageTab_OnClick() via /run, it executes my version of it. however, the predefined buttons with <OnClick function="GarrisonLandingPageTab_OnClick"/> do not use my version. Any idea on that? (And i checked the spelling, this time ..) |
| 04:32.02 | znf | I'll give a cookie to whoever makes the currency tab list sortable |
| 04:32.12 | znf | because whoever thought of placing WoD stuff at the bottom should be slapped |
| 04:33.15 | kd3 | Mesaph, consider seeing how other garrison-affecting addons handle it, like Master Plan? http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/master-plan |
| 04:33.36 | Mesaph | kk thx, will do. |
| 04:33.50 | Dagmar | znf: Agreed |
| 04:34.58 | znf | or at least remember the collapses... |
| 04:41.26 | Amarande | I read that as "collapsars" ... I think I've been reading too many astronomy pages lately |
| 04:51.39 | Xuerian | Quasars are scary stuff. |
| 04:54.26 | Fisker | good Torhal |
| 05:00.55 | karl_w_w | hey Fisker |
| 05:01.00 | karl_w_w | taste the rainbow |
| 05:01.45 | karl_w_w | which I believe means oral sex in the LGBT community |
| 05:03.26 | Dagmar | Lots of things mean oral sex in that community. |
| 05:03.37 | Dagmar | ...and the rest generally means anal sex. |
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| 05:17.39 | Sargeras | Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate it! |
| 05:18.10 | Thordurin | hugs Cairenn |
| 05:18.41 | Torhal | gives Thordurin a Miss Piggy plush. |
| 05:18.49 | Thordurin | See Torhal |
| 05:18.53 | Thordurin | I do exist |
| 05:19.04 | Torhal | On some levels, it would appear so! |
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| 05:53.34 | Shadowed | Stanzilla hmmm? |
| 06:01.57 | karl_w_w | Good things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle. |
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| 06:36.16 | znf | wth did foxlit do |
| 06:36.24 | znf | MasterPlan is throwing out errors |
| 06:36.55 | nebula169 | did you restart wow? |
| 06:37.08 | znf | yeah |
| 06:38.09 | Simca_ | znf: it works fine for me |
| 06:38.16 | Simca_ | and cute checkbox |
| 06:38.33 | znf | huh, what checkbox |
| 06:38.34 | znf | damn it |
| 06:38.40 | znf | I completed the missions already |
| 06:38.53 | Simca_ | it's in the lower-left |
| 06:39.03 | Simca_ | of mission completion summary screen |
| 06:39.12 | znf | I alt-clicked by default :( |
| 06:40.45 | znf | ok, I'm getting this: http://www.curseforge.com/paste/ |
| 06:40.48 | znf | yes, 74x |
| 06:41.17 | nebula169 | an empty form? that seems pretty serious |
| 06:41.18 | Simca_ | you linked the paste page |
| 06:41.40 | znf | damn it |
| 06:41.51 | znf | Seriously, the order of preview/paste... |
| 06:41.52 | znf | geez |
| 06:41.59 | znf | http://www.curseforge.com/paste/11074/ |
| 06:44.18 | znf | ok, I can reproduce it every time |
| 06:44.26 | znf | go to command table thingie, open the follower list, scroll |
| 06:44.52 | nebula169 | ah, once you hit an inactive |
| 06:45.48 | nebula169 | or rather, uncollected |
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| 07:14.45 | karl_w_w | i open the missions ui and my fps drops to less than 1 |
| 07:15.22 | karl_w_w | because a year wasn't long enough for blizzard to muster a polished product |
| 07:19.23 | Neffi_ | go to sleep Semlar |
| 07:29.25 | znf | Heh. |
| 07:29.27 | znf | Fun times as a caster |
| 07:29.36 | znf | A guildie (dps, boomkin) crafted a ring |
| 07:29.38 | znf | he got +spirit on it :D |
| 07:30.39 | nebula169 | i rerolled a chest 12 times :( |
| 07:30.51 | nebula169 | never got the shit i wanted |
| 07:35.20 | znf | yeah, I was kind of lucky with my crafts |
| 07:35.22 | znf | except the gloves |
| 07:35.26 | znf | which I re-rolled |
| 07:35.28 | znf | and got the same stats |
| 07:38.35 | Fisker | Do you only get like salvage from lost missions? |
| 07:38.42 | Fisker | It's like I never get any salvage anymore ;_; |
| 07:40.53 | znf | rng! |
| 07:48.08 | Mr_Rabies | yeah you do fisker |
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| 08:18.38 | karl_w_w | im weird |
| 08:19.15 | karl_w_w | sometimes I'll rewatch average or crappy things instead of one of the many good things I'm planning to watch |
| 08:20.01 | nevcairiel | znf: considering salvage 3 supposedly boosts your chances to get crates .. i'm not feeling that |
| 08:20.39 | znf | nevcairiel, yup, that's what all my guildies feel |
| 08:20.43 | karl_w_w | yeah i havent got more crates since going from 2 to 3 |
| 08:21.06 | znf | the opposite, yes |
| 08:21.09 | znf | less crates :D |
| 08:21.13 | karl_w_w | 1 to 2 definitely made a difference |
| 08:21.21 | znf | true |
| 08:21.29 | znf | and I had so much follower gear in there |
| 08:21.31 | znf | now... nothing |
| 08:22.07 | nevcairiel | the chances of gear didnt change, its still about 30% of all boxes |
| 08:22.09 | karl_w_w | so far I haven't got more or less of anything, except that the crates now have crappy greens in them |
| 08:22.23 | znf | yeah, but it feels less because I get less crates |
| 08:22.34 | znf | nevcairiel, another guildie stopped getting many missions, too |
| 08:22.40 | znf | like, sitting 3 in progress, 0 available |
| 08:22.48 | znf | he mentioned he has all followers to 100 |
| 08:22.52 | karl_w_w | that one is weird |
| 08:23.04 | karl_w_w | im getting so few level 100 missions |
| 08:23.17 | znf | not weird |
| 08:23.23 | nevcairiel | i get loads and loads of leveling missions now, i activated a benched 92 and my inn recruit, so 2 below 100, like 9 leveling missions this morning, 2 at 100 (one 600, one 615) |
| 08:23.24 | znf | there's longer ones showing up |
| 08:27.45 | nevcairiel | and those 100 missions for 615 gear are annoying :p |
| 08:27.54 | nevcairiel | player gear, not follower gear |
| 08:29.03 | znf | indeed |
| 08:33.06 | znf | huh |
| 08:33.19 | znf | follower needed 76 XP |
| 08:33.25 | znf | mission was complete, said success |
| 08:33.30 | znf | follower still needs 76 XP |
| 08:33.33 | pompy | [03:29:44] [2] [Guaton-Gar]: careful with some addons guys |
| 08:33.34 | pompy | [03:30:08] [2] [Guaton-Gar]: spyware |
| 08:33.34 | pompy | [03:30:20] [2] [Guaton-Gar]: among other malicious things |
| 08:33.35 | pompy | lol |
| 08:33.36 | znf | how the f* does that happen |
| 08:33.48 | znf | I can't possibly break the XP gain with my addon |
| 08:34.55 | znf | Simca_, even if the mission fails, you still get the base xp, right? |
| 08:35.08 | Mr_Rabies | sometimes XP gets sent to your mailbox if your bags are full |
| 08:35.08 | Simca_ | yes |
| 08:35.10 | Mr_Rabies | yes, XP |
| 08:35.23 | Simca_ | oh yeah they could mean literal XP |
| 08:35.36 | Simca_ | there is an item 'XP' that grants you character XP when it enters your bags |
| 08:35.45 | znf | I'm talking follower XP |
| 08:35.48 | znf | from a mission |
| 08:36.00 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/BgHVpyQ.jpg |
| 08:36.14 | Mr_Rabies | oh |
| 08:36.17 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, duh |
| 08:36.18 | znf | not char XP, I don't care about that |
| 08:36.20 | Mr_Rabies | i have no clue |
| 08:36.29 | znf | So, base-xp is a given |
| 08:36.36 | Mr_Rabies | win or lose, you get base xp, yeah |
| 08:37.40 | znf | Simca_, ok, what could cause the follower to NOT get the basexp? |
| 08:37.59 | znf | C_Garrison.CanOpenMissionChest() returned true |
| 08:38.18 | nevcairiel | you always get the base xp |
| 08:38.24 | Simca_ | if it was over two levels lower than the mission |
| 08:38.27 | Simca_ | that's the only case i can think of |
| 08:38.37 | nevcairiel | even then he gets 10% |
| 08:38.38 | Fisker | get that to happen like 500 times |
| 08:38.38 | Fisker | then level to 100 |
| 08:38.50 | Mr_Rabies | they still get 10% |
| 08:39.03 | Mr_Rabies | derp |
| 08:39.03 | Simca_ | ah, nice, didn't know that |
| 08:39.08 | Mr_Rabies | i read gud |
| 08:39.33 | Simca_ | i only knew about 50% if within 2 levels under and 130% if one follower is 100+epic |
| 08:39.59 | Mr_Rabies | oh is that how the bonus base xp works? |
| 08:40.11 | Mr_Rabies | i thought it was a formula based on how far over 100% you were making it go |
| 08:40.23 | Simca_ | yeah, that part is probably |
| 08:40.33 | Simca_ | this is a calculation applied after mission success that i noticed |
| 08:41.05 | znf | ok, I need to fix that output to text function I stole from you |
| 08:41.08 | znf | I still get an error about "m" |
| 08:41.16 | Simca_ | weird |
| 08:41.52 | znf | I know |
| 08:42.07 | znf | ok, so GARRISON_MISSION_COMPLETE_RESPONSE arg3 is success, right? |
| 08:42.13 | znf | arg1 is missionID? |
| 08:42.14 | Simca_ | yes |
| 08:42.17 | Simca_ | yep |
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| 08:42.34 | znf | and wth is requestCompleted arg2? |
| 08:42.51 | Simca_ | if it is ever false, it means the server failed to process your request |
| 08:42.56 | Simca_ | and you need to do it again |
| 08:43.20 | Simca_ | (the server can still fail and not tell you with an event) |
| 08:44.12 | Simca_ | jeeze come on WoW |
| 08:44.17 | Simca_ | I'm at 99/100 crates and just sitting here |
| 08:44.24 | Simca_ | and mission after mission has come in without a crate |
| 08:44.32 | Simca_ | on mission 6 so far with no crate. |
| 08:44.47 | Simca_ | rage. |
| 08:44.53 | Mr_Rabies | let me just say that the rank 3 crates rain old greens on me like crazy |
| 08:45.06 | Mr_Rabies | i could run my own rp server at this rate |
| 08:45.27 | znf | Oh. |
| 08:45.39 | znf | Mr_Rabies, I got a BoE epic... from Cataclysm |
| 08:45.44 | znf | yes, cataclysm boe epic |
| 08:45.51 | znf | I was like, "oh shit, epic" |
| 08:45.54 | znf | then... :-| |
| 08:45.55 | Simca_ | yeah on the PTR, I got Destiny |
| 08:45.56 | Mr_Rabies | hey, may be worth something |
| 08:46.01 | Simca_ | err beta realm |
| 08:46.17 | Simca_ | http://www.wowhead.com/item=647 |
| 08:47.35 | znf | so, when did you say that I should load PreloadMissionData ? |
| 08:47.38 | znf | run |
| 08:47.45 | Simca_ | before you start completing missions |
| 08:47.51 | znf | so when the UI is loaded? |
| 08:48.00 | Fisker | I feel your pain Simca_ |
| 08:48.05 | Simca_ | yeah, that should be fine. |
| 08:49.07 | Simca_ | and i'll do your mission timer addon soonish znf; it should be pretty simple in theory |
| 08:50.05 | znf | GARRISON_MISSION_BONUS_ROLL_COMPLETE has only 2 arguments? missionID and requestCompleted? |
| 08:50.31 | znf | and GARRISON_MISSION_BONUS_ROLL_COMPLETE happens only when the mission is a success, right? |
| 08:50.46 | nebula169 | it happens after you request it |
| 08:51.33 | Simca_ | yeah |
| 08:51.38 | nebula169 | with C_Garrison.MissionBonusRoll |
| 08:51.41 | Simca_ | exactly |
| 08:52.52 | znf | oki doki |
| 08:53.33 | znf | hmmm |
| 08:53.34 | znf | GARRISON_MISSION_BONUS_ROLL_COMPLETE(missionID, success) |
| 08:53.45 | znf | then local m = missionID |
| 08:54.03 | znf | then you do m.success = true in my case |
| 08:55.42 | znf | 1x Breeze\Breeze-@project-version@.lua:99: attempt to index local 'm' (a number value) |
| 08:56.32 | nebula169 | .. |
| 08:58.07 | znf | nebula169, that's Simca_'s function! :D |
| 08:58.22 | znf | which I somehow failed to implement |
| 08:58.42 | nebula169 | you set a var to a number then tried to set a key value on it as if it were a table |
| 08:59.10 | znf | well, I'm failing here, actually: http://i.imgur.com/OOFWPnu.png |
| 08:59.38 | znf | or, rather, I'm not running PreloadMissionData() where I should be |
| 09:03.58 | karl_w_w | whats the point of these stupid 615 ilvl missions that reward gold |
| 09:04.11 | karl_w_w | who's gonna jump through hoops for 75g? pointless |
| 09:04.40 | nevcairiel | i do them all |
| 09:05.27 | karl_w_w | because you have to? |
| 09:05.43 | nevcairiel | because my dudes are otherwise bored |
| 09:05.50 | znf | MORE CRATES |
| 09:05.52 | znf | ^^ |
| 09:06.03 | karl_w_w | well yeah i do them all for crates |
| 09:06.12 | karl_w_w | and so they get replaced |
| 09:06.37 | znf | why do I have to escape |c as \124 when I do /run in game but not when I print something from another place? :-/ |
| 09:06.53 | karl_w_w | well nearly all of them, im not doing this 3 follower 10 hour level 95 one |
| 09:07.36 | nevcairiel | i usually send my two epic mount guys on those 3 person low lvl missions, together with one that needs leveling xp |
| 09:07.53 | znf | one of my epic mounts also has bonus XP |
| 09:07.55 | znf | which is awesome! :D |
| 09:08.05 | nevcairiel | or i save them up for doing late at night when i'm going to sleep |
| 09:08.06 | nebula169 | because, because the game escapes things weird when you're typing it |
| 09:08.10 | Fisker | What do I do with my dance book |
| 09:08.11 | nebula169 | erm znf, * |
| 09:08.21 | znf | btw, someone mentioned once that you get the % from trait also applied to bonusXP |
| 09:08.26 | znf | was anyone able to confirm it? |
| 09:08.30 | nevcairiel | you do |
| 09:08.33 | Simca_ | yeah it is |
| 09:08.50 | znf | hmm, I'll pay more attention, then, it certainly felt like I didn't :-/ |
| 09:09.25 | Simca_ | on the 10k missions i take one level 100 epic with extra training trait |
| 09:09.32 | Simca_ | and two people i want to upgrade |
| 09:09.42 | nebula169 | yar |
| 09:09.43 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/2Dv88uW.png |
| 09:09.48 | nevcairiel | i'm usually torn between doing that, or sending 3 that need upgrading |
| 09:09.50 | znf | ok, why the hell do I get it twice?! |
| 09:10.08 | Fisker | I don't need xp anymore |
| 09:10.18 | nevcairiel | everyone needs xp! |
| 09:10.25 | nebula169 | all of your followers are 100 epic? o.O |
| 09:10.34 | znf | nevcairiel, wow, 6 missions completed; 5 crates! |
| 09:10.42 | Simca_ | qq. |
| 09:10.44 | Simca_ | q |
| 09:10.44 | Fisker | not exactly nebula169 |
| 09:10.48 | Fisker | poor Simca_ |
| 09:10.57 | znf | 1 had a grey...only one grey |
| 09:10.57 | sb | guildie got 665 offhand from crate :| |
| 09:11.04 | sb | wtb |
| 09:11.11 | znf | now 2 low level greens |
| 09:11.23 | znf | another 2 low level greens |
| 09:11.37 | znf | +3 ilvl armament... |
| 09:11.44 | znf | and another grey |
| 09:11.46 | znf | yay rng |
| 09:11.56 | nevcairiel | i had 2 low level greens and a follower item in the same chest, those are not exclusive :p |
| 09:12.09 | znf | I know |
| 09:12.16 | sb | so about equipping followers |
| 09:12.22 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/FKitR8E.png |
| 09:12.28 | sb | putting all on 1 or splitting it equal to all of them? |
| 09:12.40 | nevcairiel | dont boost one, its pointless |
| 09:12.49 | nevcairiel | he cant do missions anyway |
| 09:13.02 | Simca_ | need at -least- a team of 3 |
| 09:13.04 | znf | lol nevcairiel http://i.imgur.com/FKitR8E.png |
| 09:13.05 | znf | :D |
| 09:14.26 | nevcairiel | i'm aiming for a team of 6 or so, between them all counters etc |
| 09:14.40 | karl_w_w | does salvage appear more frequently depending on mission level or anything? |
| 09:14.52 | znf | I don't think so |
| 09:15.30 | karl_w_w | ilvl 615 missions wont appear if you've only upgraded one guy, I found out |
| 09:15.40 | znf | you sure? |
| 09:15.46 | nevcairiel | i think you need actually 3 |
| 09:15.50 | znf | because I only had a ilvl630 guy and I started getting them :-/ |
| 09:16.00 | znf | (getting 630) |
| 09:16.04 | karl_w_w | well i didnt upgrade him that high |
| 09:16.15 | karl_w_w | when I had just 1 |
| 09:16.46 | Fisker | I only had 2 I think when I got the first one |
| 09:17.11 | Fisker | Though maybe it's just "any upgrade over 600" |
| 09:17.20 | karl_w_w | yeah i think so |
| 09:17.20 | znf | so, Simca_, why is this running twice? :D |
| 09:17.25 | Fisker | Because I had one at 630, one at 615 and one at like 604 or so |
| 09:17.35 | karl_w_w | cos 600 is red for 615 missions |
| 09:17.50 | znf | wait, I know why it's running twice |
| 09:18.02 | karl_w_w | you told it to |
| 09:18.20 | znf | because at a point I did GarrisonMissionFrame.MissionComplete.NextMissionButton.Disable = function() C_Garrison.MissionBonusRoll(GarrisonMissionFrame.MissionComplete.currentMission.missionID) end |
| 09:18.31 | znf | yes, ofc I told it to |
| 09:20.53 | Simca_ | wait you're redefining a button's disable widget API function? |
| 09:21.40 | znf | yes |
| 09:22.42 | Simca_ | i didn't even know that was possible |
| 09:22.53 | znf | points at nebula169 |
| 09:23.15 | znf | nevcairiel, I'm on fire here. 2 missions completed, 2 crates |
| 09:23.31 | nevcairiel | i have 3 missions ending in 5 minutes, lets see! |
| 09:24.38 | nevcairiel | also building my level 2 bunker right now, wonder if i should pull it up to 3 immediately, but i guess i can delay that until later this week, before raid starts |
| 09:25.17 | znf | you can't get them until 3rd anyway |
| 09:25.20 | znf | (the sigils, I mean) |
| 09:25.22 | Fisker | Yeah you can |
| 09:25.37 | znf | not from warmill/quests |
| 09:25.41 | Fisker | yup |
| 09:25.41 | znf | only source is followers missions |
| 09:25.46 | znf | has 1 |
| 09:25.51 | Fisker | has 1 |
| 09:25.55 | Fisker | Got it from war mill last night |
| 09:25.56 | Fisker | sry |
| 09:26.10 | Simca_ | i got that mission on the first day |
| 09:26.14 | Simca_ | with no hope of completing it |
| 09:26.17 | Simca_ | and haven't seen it since |
| 09:26.46 | znf | I actually had some pure luck that I dinged the follower to that level (I think it required 615) before it appeared |
| 09:26.48 | nevcairiel | did you build bunker3 Fisker? |
| 09:26.49 | znf | did it with 100% |
| 09:26.58 | Fisker | warmill 3 nevcairiel |
| 09:27.02 | nevcairiel | same thing |
| 09:27.05 | znf | I just made lvl2 today |
| 09:27.06 | Fisker | I know |
| 09:27.09 | znf | and started work orders |
| 09:27.10 | Fisker | I hate the name bunker |
| 09:27.16 | Simca_ | nah it was just a basic level 100 mission but it was 5 mechanics 3 follower slots |
| 09:27.19 | nevcairiel | its a dwarven bunker :p |
| 09:27.20 | Simca_ | and i had 1 level 100 follower |
| 09:27.33 | znf | Simca_, that's why you need to make an addon! :P |
| 09:27.50 | Fisker | For horde it's a mill with war in it nevcairiel |
| 09:27.51 | znf | (or put it in wowdbprofiler!) |
| 09:28.17 | nevcairiel | ahahah |
| 09:28.19 | Fisker | But yeah after the upgrade I talked to the guy and he had a chat option going "Yes I would like a <whatever it's called>" |
| 09:28.21 | Fisker | And I got one |
| 09:28.29 | nevcairiel | my delvar ironfirst just turned epic, and he developed a scavenger trait |
| 09:28.29 | nevcairiel | ftw |
| 09:28.33 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 09:28.39 | Fisker | My Croman has scavenger |
| 09:28.58 | nevcairiel | also, minion swarms, which is super, since i was somewhat low on those |
| 09:29.38 | nebula169 | scavenger on 300 gr missions, ooooh yeeeea |
| 09:29.46 | nevcairiel | havent had one of those yet |
| 09:29.52 | nevcairiel | but its already super nice on 130 gr |
| 09:30.22 | znf | Crap. |
| 09:30.35 | znf | my alt has 16 available missions |
| 09:30.41 | znf | ...11 followers |
| 09:30.54 | nevcairiel | i'm not very dilligent about doing missions on the alts |
| 09:31.36 | znf | my druid kind of blew up |
| 09:31.37 | nevcairiel | in any case, love my new and improved delvar |
| 09:31.38 | znf | :D |
| 09:31.47 | Fisker | Which is why there won't be an app |
| 09:32.05 | Fisker | 10 alts, 10 garrisons, _tons_ of automated resources |
| 09:32.35 | Simca_ | man they can't even keep the armory api up to date; what makes you think they'd make an app |
| 09:32.37 | znf | true |
| 09:32.47 | Simca_ | you craze |
| 09:32.51 | nebula169 | can always hope :( |
| 09:32.53 | znf | give app, and next day someone automates it all |
| 09:33.23 | nevcairiel | as much as it would be nice to have an app, it would also be horrible :p |
| 09:34.18 | Fisker | I am 99% sure that internally they have already tentatively shelved the idea simply because they don't want people automating the garrison that effectively |
| 09:34.48 | znf | I'm sure someone already made or is working on a bot for them in-game :P |
| 09:35.17 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 09:35.34 | Fisker | But it's not as efficient, and it's easier for them to action and discourage in general |
| 09:35.51 | Fisker | oh man am I happy they actually removed those golden heroes from hearthstone botters |
| 09:36.16 | znf | what's GARRISON_MISSION_NPC_OPENED ? |
| 09:39.15 | Simca_ | you opening the UI |
| 09:39.55 | znf | Why can't I find that in framexml, at all? O.O |
| 09:40.48 | nevcairiel | UIParent and Minimap.lua use it |
| 09:41.16 | nevcairiel | ie. UIParent loads the garrison UI on that event |
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| 10:22.15 | znf | Simca_, so... what event does fire when the mission pops up on your screen but you already have the panel opened? :D |
| 10:23.05 | Simca_ | a new mission on your list or the next completed mission? |
| 10:25.19 | znf | if I completed all the missions (by complete I mean roll) |
| 10:25.27 | znf | and while I'm still in the panel |
| 10:25.44 | znf | if a mission completes, I get the clicky clicky panel of missions that have just been completed |
| 10:26.32 | Simca_ | i'm confused - there is no panel after completed missions besides the mission list/follower list |
| 10:26.48 | Simca_ | if something new pops up in the mission list it's probably going to use GARRISON_MISSION_LIST_UPDATE or something |
| 10:27.26 | znf | sorry, I can be confusing at times (all the time) |
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| 10:27.56 | znf | if I view the available mission lists, and meanwhile a new mission just completed, I will get the "garrison report" window opened |
| 10:28.53 | znf | but ofc, the "missions" table that your function uses will not contain the new one, as that only runs when I open the UI myself :) |
| 10:29.03 | Simca_ | that is likely true. |
| 10:29.34 | znf | so should I just hook GARRISON_MISSION_LIST_UPDATE ? |
| 10:29.38 | znf | register, whatever |
| 10:30.55 | Simca_ | make a failsafe in the event for completing a garrison mission so that if you can't find the missionID matching arg1 in any of the subtables of the 'missions' table, then it should repopulate the mission table by calling PreloadMissionData again |
| 10:31.16 | znf | Oh. |
| 10:33.07 | Simca_ | something like: local found = false; for m_index, subtable in next, missions do; if arg1 == subtable.missionID then; found = true; break; end; end; if not found then; PreloadMissionData(); end; |
| 10:33.32 | Simca_ | (where the semicolons are linebreaks) |
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| 10:54.52 | znf | Simca_, <3 worked http://i.imgur.com/a6jjZfR.png |
| 10:55.07 | znf | yes, I know I have plenty of semicolons there |
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| 11:03.52 | karl_w_w | literally not a single semicolon :P |
| 11:04.29 | znf | yes, you're right :D |
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| 11:11.09 | znf | Simca_, sorry I'm bothering you so much - is it possible, in any way, that I'm not allowing Blizzard's code to run some specific code (?!!) that grants XP to the followers? |
| 11:11.38 | Simca_ | it is super not likely |
| 11:11.39 | Xuerian | sure as hell shouldn't be able to |
| 11:15.16 | Simca_ | if you really want to be 100% sure; investigate all calls blizzard's garrison mission UI makes to C_Garrison functions |
| 11:15.39 | znf | I lack the skills to do that :) |
| 11:16.00 | sb | znf cheating again! |
| 11:16.09 | znf | sb, I'm not! |
| 11:16.28 | znf | I'm apparently playing with some things that shouldn't be able to be broken! |
| 11:16.42 | sb | "not granting xp" is just a synonym for "grating double xp!!" |
| 11:16.55 | znf | sb, if only! |
| 11:17.09 | Simca_ | do the impossible, think the unthinkable; rah rah fight the powah |
| 11:19.14 | znf | uhm, how do I set a SV tu be true by default, intially? |
| 11:19.50 | znf | (not var) ? var = true; |
| 11:19.51 | znf | ? |
| 11:19.55 | znf | (not var) : var = true; |
| 11:20.05 | znf | I need sleep |
| 11:20.20 | Simca_ | yeah, but you have to do it in ADDON_LOADED |
| 11:21.17 | sb | that would also set var = false to var=true, right? |
| 11:21.42 | Simca_ | if event == "ADDON_LOADED" and arg1 == "Breeze" then; if var == nil then; var = true; end; end; |
| 11:21.45 | sb | so it needs to be var ~= nil => true |
| 11:21.48 | Simca_ | yeah |
| 11:23.15 | Semlar | you can just set its initial value when you create the global that the saved variable uses |
| 11:23.23 | Semlar | you don't need to check that it doesn't exist |
| 11:24.30 | Simca_ | that's only true for the very first version of that saved variable - after you publish it, if you want to add a new variable to the table, then you have to account for people who will have the table + 1 variable but not the other |
| 11:25.00 | sb | or use AceDB defaults to do all the magic :D |
| 11:25.12 | Simca_ | meh |
| 11:25.22 | znf | Don't want to embed AceDB just for a single variable :-/ |
| 11:25.27 | sb | right |
| 11:25.30 | nebula169 | for simple stuff, ace is overboard |
| 11:25.38 | sb | yes, if its only 1 variable... |
| 11:26.37 | karl_w_w | world server is down |
| 11:27.03 | Simca_ | i use a very simple system in my addons. I declare a table at the start with default values. then in ADDON_LOADED, i just do: for name, value in next, DEFAULTS do if SAVED_VARIABLE[name] == nil then SAVED_VARIABLE[name] = value end end |
| 11:27.09 | karl_w_w | good guy blizzard recreating that expansion launch excitement |
| 11:27.21 | znf | Now, I really want sleep, but I want to commit, this, too, and I'm too lazy to make that work properly at the moment |
| 11:27.48 | Simca_ | it makes more sense to me than ace does and is like 5 lines of code |
| 11:27.51 | znf | Should I just commit with that option not functional (and turned on by default) and wake up to shitloads of curse comments telling me to go fuck myself? |
| 11:28.09 | znf | (but not tag as release) |
| 11:28.33 | sb | ofc not |
| 11:28.38 | sb | just commit, dont push |
| 11:28.40 | sb | and goto sleep |
| 11:28.48 | znf | nono, I want to push :D |
| 11:28.52 | sb | :| |
| 11:30.10 | znf | I have some guys telling me they're missing XP or some shit like that |
| 11:30.14 | znf | which I'm really sure it's not possible |
| 11:30.20 | znf | and maybe they can be silenced with an alpha |
| 11:31.10 | nebula169 | its not really possible, shit isn't taken out of the CompleteMissions table until you accept all its rewards |
| 11:31.53 | znf | I know it's not. But I also noticed it myself. Follower missed 57 XP to ding. Mission was complete. The mission failed (low %), follower didn't ding |
| 11:32.08 | znf | Even if he didn't get the bonus-xp, he should have gotten the basexp |
| 11:32.38 | znf | And I can't explain that |
| 11:51.59 | Semlar | does being locked to an instance prevent you from doing challenge modes for it |
| 11:52.50 | znf | no |
| 11:54.32 | znf | Simca_, http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/breeze?comment=80 |
| 11:54.33 | znf | *shrug* |
| 11:59.13 | Gnarfoz | clearly, you should found a club of people who break things |
| 12:09.54 | Torhal | I want to destroy these people who post 100 stacks of 1. |
| 12:10.07 | Torhal | Total nuclear deployment type stuff. |
| 12:11.09 | Gnarfoz | I can't decide if that's incompetent people trying to use auction addons, or evil people trying to take advantage of those who don't use auction addons |
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| 12:23.15 | znf | people just assume everyone else is using addons |
| 12:24.00 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't make posting stacks of 1 any more useful |
| 12:24.07 | Gnarfoz | it's annyoing for people with auction addons, too! |
| 12:24.38 | nevcairiel | its just stupid, and most people that do it are either morons are evil morons |
| 12:24.48 | nevcairiel | s/are evil/or evil( |
| 12:24.51 | nevcairiel | meh |
| 12:24.58 | Fisker | The 100 stacks of 1 thing destroys addons too |
| 12:25.06 | Fisker | pages upon pages of scanning to buy shit |
| 12:25.08 | Fisker | aaaaargh |
| 12:25.39 | Fisker | I always go in stacks of 10 or higher unless it's an odd stack |
| 12:26.00 | nevcairiel | i just post the odd stack then |
| 12:26.07 | nevcairiel | or i keep it until its full |
| 12:26.23 | Fisker | Yeah I post it |
| 12:26.43 | Fisker | I think it's alright as long as I didn't shit all over Torhal's AH |
| 12:31.31 | karl_w_w | are all races in the wrong place when they sit in chairs or is it just draenei? |
| 12:33.03 | Arrowmaster | ah man amazon has Sennheiser HD 598's on sale but not the headset versions with mics |
| 12:34.46 | karl_w_w | go crazy and buy yourself a blue yeti :P |
| 12:35.32 | karl_w_w | jesus, you can afford it with that price cut |
| 12:36.09 | karl_w_w | shame they don't have detachable cables |
| 12:38.25 | Torhal | rhis is true |
| 12:38.55 | Fisker | what is rhis and why is it true? |
| 12:39.41 | Torhal | It's a boolean function I'm working on. |
| 12:39.51 | Torhal | I should have named it ReverseThis() |
| 12:40.00 | Torhal | But fuck it. Going C-style. |
| 12:40.17 | Fisker | ah |
| 12:40.26 | Fisker | Does it return true, false, filenotfound? |
| 12:40.44 | karl_w_w | I thought rhis is a misspelling of the welsh name rhys |
| 12:41.09 | karl_w_w | which would make Torhal a big griff rhys jones fan |
| 12:41.20 | karl_w_w | but instead it seems torhal hates griff rhys jones |
| 12:41.25 | karl_w_w | what. a. hater. |
| 12:41.59 | Torhal | blames karl_w_w for Amarande. |
| 12:52.19 | Fisker | man Torhal |
| 12:52.26 | Fisker | getting a 4k monitor is exciting even if it is crap |
| 12:58.18 | Arrowmaster | karl_w_w: but it does have detachable cable |
| 12:58.29 | karl_w_w | oh |
| 12:58.41 | karl_w_w | then get a replacement cable with an in-line mic :P |
| 12:59.47 | Arrowmaster | i want the one with boom mic |
| 12:59.55 | Fisker | Which one is that? |
| 13:06.46 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: Pick up a modmic or similar and the headset, it's what i'm doing |
| 13:07.39 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GHPNKUMf70 benedict cumberbatch can't say penguins |
| 13:07.44 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: sennheiser pc 360/363 |
| 13:08.03 | Xuerian | Arrowmaster: but these sound so much beeetter |
| 13:08.32 | Arrowmaster | Xuerian: i dont really need a headset but if the pc 360 series was on sale id get it, its the exact same headphones just with a mic |
| 13:09.20 | Xuerian | well, yeah, if they were on sale |
| 13:09.21 | Xuerian | inb4 sale |
| 13:10.03 | Arrowmaster | ive got a massive pc speaker system i get to use all the time instead |
| 13:10.08 | Mr_Rabies | 98% mission |
| 13:10.15 | Mr_Rabies | if you guys fail i'm gonna make some draenei glue |
| 13:10.27 | Mr_Rabies | D:< |
| 13:10.33 | Arrowmaster | ohh pebble smart watch on sale at 10am est |
| 13:16.50 | Mr_Rabies | it's for a 645 trinket too |
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| 13:40.26 | Gnarfoz | PC 360 ftw |
| 13:40.30 | Gnarfoz | I love mine to bits |
| 13:44.36 | karl_w_w | don't do that, it works better in 1 piece |
| 13:45.34 | Gnarfoz | mostly true |
| 14:03.41 | karl_w_w | aww yis, 3 missions complete 3 big crates of salvage |
| 14:04.15 | Fisker | Look at my big crate karl_w_w |
| 14:09.40 | karl_w_w | that's quite a package Fisker |
| 14:15.50 | Arrowmaster | damnit amazon made me sign in again and i didnt get mario kart 7 on the first try, on the waitlist now |
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| 14:38.13 | karl_w_w | if only there were half a dozen other mario carts to pass the time with |
| 14:40.43 | Simca_ | nevcairiel: one advantage of everybody being at 100 though is that it seems you always get 1-2 patrol missions per day |
| 14:41.06 | Simca_ | and if everyone is at 100, those patrol missions will always be the missions with 10k follower XP rewards |
| 14:41.21 | Simca_ | which is excellent rarity-leveling material |
| 14:41.47 | Simca_ | oh, right, you don't have barracks |
| 14:42.14 | Gnarfoz | are treasure missions unlocked by some other building I don't have? |
| 14:42.29 | Simca_ | level 3 inn |
| 14:42.49 | Gnarfoz | bleh |
| 14:43.03 | Simca_ | bleh is about how i feel about the missions |
| 14:43.06 | jleclanche | kd3 Simca_: lol... the garrison magus actually say, when you speak to them "Have no fear, Stormshield will not flag you for PVP" |
| 14:43.08 | jleclanche | what the fuck. |
| 14:43.36 | Simca_ | i have inn level 2 and even after i get the achievement, not sure about inn level 3 |
| 14:43.43 | Arrowmaster | is it wrong or is the 4th wall breakage the issue |
| 14:43.46 | Simca_ | i don't need a bunch of missions to get 500g |
| 14:43.51 | jleclanche | Arrowmaster: the latter |
| 14:44.05 | jleclanche | on such an unnecessary npc too |
| 14:45.46 | Arrowmaster | i tied my aperture science tie in a trinity knot, looks nice with my new pinstripe vest |
| 14:48.42 | p3lim | Wait... there is no secure way of destroying totems? |
| 14:49.41 | nevcairiel | Simca_: i have barracks |
| 14:50.07 | nevcairiel | and i'll build inn3 just because the building looks nicer! |
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| 15:34.13 | fewyn | oh god |
| 15:34.14 | fewyn | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEfV0gTo03c |
| 15:34.17 | fewyn | i'm getting chills |
| 15:35.43 | fewyn | this entire trailer better than all three of the prequels combined |
| 15:36.36 | karl_w_w | what causes you to sometimes get a bit more base exp from missions? |
| 15:36.47 | karl_w_w | like 1625 instead of 1500 |
| 15:37.18 | Thunder_Child | overlevel |
| 15:38.00 | Thunder_Child | If your follower is higher than the listed level you get a bonus. |
| 15:38.56 | Thunder_Child | It will say when you are assigning followers to missions. Something like "Base: 500 +(xx)" |
| 15:39.14 | Semlar | putting a level 100 in a level 95 mission doesn't add any bonus experience |
| 15:39.34 | karl_w_w | I had 3 615 ilvl guys on a 615 ilvl mission |
| 15:40.03 | karl_w_w | but they countered all the mechanics plus had a couple of party buffs so maybe that's it |
| 15:40.42 | Thunder_Child | I thought it was level, but you might be correct. |
| 15:41.42 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/atg.jpg |
| 15:42.46 | foxlit | basically, anything that makes you have more than 100% success chance adds to base xp. |
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| 15:50.17 | karl_w_w | what's that movie called about WW2 crypto? |
| 15:50.36 | karl_w_w | the imitation game |
| 15:54.20 | Thunder_Child | There are a lot karl_w_w |
| 15:54.38 | karl_w_w | i meant the one coming out this year :P |
| 16:00.34 | Gnarfoz | arrrgh application/CV written in Comic Sans... if that's not a hint they don't want the job, then I don't know what is |
| 16:02.47 | mikma | shirik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2901Awq5z8 |
| 16:03.11 | Thunder_Child | Gnarfoz: It depends on what the job is. |
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| 16:06.50 | karl_w_w | I can't think of a job where comic sans is suitable |
| 16:07.09 | karl_w_w | unless poor CV demonstrator is a thing |
| 16:07.36 | Constie | Comic Sans usage promoter. |
| 16:08.01 | Amarande | karl_w_w: daycare, maybe |
| 16:11.09 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/th.jpg << also kind of weird. |
| 16:13.13 | mikma | function rng() return 7; end |
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| 16:18.52 | Gnarfoz | perhaps Breaker is not properly marked as optional or something |
| 16:19.07 | Gnarfoz | or puny humans are more susceptible to it |
| 16:19.19 | nevcairiel | the type is always optional |
| 16:19.28 | nevcairiel | probably some weirdness agian |
| 16:19.29 | Thunder_Child | He said 'not properly' |
| 16:19.29 | Gnarfoz | it should be, just saying |
| 16:19.36 | nevcairiel | although i've personally never seen it |
| 16:19.37 | Thunder_Child | L2Read. |
| 16:19.51 | Gnarfoz | L2switch! |
| 16:20.00 | Gnarfoz | or maybe L3switch |
| 16:20.09 | nevcairiel | Thunder_Child: l2logic, if the type is always optional, its rather hard to make one not be accidentally |
| 16:20.25 | Gnarfoz | how do you know it's implemented as "always optional" |
| 16:20.44 | Thunder_Child | 'Always' only presumes that someone didn't fuck up. |
| 16:20.59 | nevcairiel | because thats the most logical and simple course of action |
| 16:21.00 | Thunder_Child | I think you mean should always be optional. |
| 16:21.07 | Gnarfoz | after 10 years of Blizzard |
| 16:21.11 | Gnarfoz | THAT'S your answer |
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| 16:21.15 | nevcairiel | and considering the basic calculation screws up sometimes already, its more likely its just the same bug |
| 16:21.20 | Thunder_Child | fuckups happened all the time. |
| 16:21.25 | Gnarfoz | Blizzard happens! |
| 16:21.27 | Thunder_Child | happen* |
| 16:21.29 | Gnarfoz | \o/ time for groceries + home |
| 16:22.38 | Thunder_Child | The question though is if that is a visual fubar, or the result will be that as well. |
| 16:26.45 | foxlit | grumble, GetFramesRegisteredForEvent throws if there are too many. |
| 16:29.58 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: Did you want this as a ticket http://imgur.com/a/tP2lr ? |
| 16:30.29 | foxlit | hm? |
| 16:30.48 | Thunder_Child | I thought it was supposed to sort by higest % |
| 16:30.59 | nevcairiel | she is obviously being preferred because of scavenger |
| 16:31.26 | Thunder_Child | Also in the 3rd pic the soulbinder shoots up for no reason. |
| 16:31.41 | foxlit | nothing quite so clever; it sorts on (number of relevant abilities, number of relevant traits, level, item level) |
| 16:34.45 | Thunder_Child | Well I see why the soulbinder moves when I add glirin |
| 16:35.12 | nevcairiel | yeah she has bonus with dwarves |
| 16:35.21 | Thunder_Child | Doubt it needs to do that on a single follower assignment though. |
| 16:36.09 | foxlit | It's unfortunate, but I don't think it's worth fixing in addon code -- it's essentially blizzard's relevancy check that's being silly. |
| 16:36.27 | foxlit | It seems difficult to even get a follower's race, which makes affinity traits hard. |
| 16:37.06 | Thunder_Child | Fair enough. |
| 16:42.26 | nevcairiel | anyone know what the flag bearer in a garrison invasion does? i can send him around, but no idea what that changes |
| 16:43.57 | Semlar | do you hire a barracks bodyguard the same way you ask someone to go on patrol with you |
| 16:44.20 | mikma | nevcairiel: for guild banners? perhaps |
| 16:44.32 | nevcairiel | you assign one of your bodyguards to work at the barracks, he'll then stand in front of it and you can ask him to join you Semlar |
| 16:44.59 | Semlar | he's got a gossip option like the other npcs? |
| 16:45.06 | nevcairiel | yeah, different text |
| 16:45.17 | Semlar | i wonder if they cast the same spell |
| 16:45.58 | Semlar | when you ask someone to come on patrol with you they cast http://www.wowhead.com/spell=160760 |
| 16:46.59 | Semlar | although it doesn't actually show up as a buff and i have no idea how to tell them to stop following you |
| 16:47.17 | nevcairiel | you cant really cancel the patrol thing from what i know |
| 16:47.20 | nevcairiel | run out of your garrison |
| 16:47.22 | nevcairiel | that helps |
| 16:47.26 | Semlar | it comes back if you go back in |
| 16:47.50 | Semlar | not that it matters, i just wanted to test if you could easily detect hiring someone |
| 16:47.54 | Amarande | I guess "come on patrol with" means "stalk" |
| 16:48.02 | Semlar | >_> |
| 16:48.30 | Semlar | i also can't figure out what determines which followers are just milling around your garrison |
| 16:48.34 | nevcairiel | they stop doing it when you are out of the garrison for a bit, like in an instance or so |
| 16:48.35 | Semlar | is it just random? |
| 16:48.49 | nevcairiel | the idea is all the active ones not on missions |
| 16:48.57 | Semlar | that doesn't seem to be true though |
| 16:49.21 | nevcairiel | sending guys off on missions does remove them from the garrison, they walk out the front door and everything |
| 16:49.44 | Semlar | like, i had meatball out until i told him to come on patrol with me, then i told another npc to come on patrol with me and now meatball is gone |
| 16:49.57 | nevcairiel | maybe he hides somewhere |
| 16:50.05 | Semlar | leaving the garrison and coming back doesn't appear to respawn him |
| 16:50.18 | nevcairiel | i found followers idling around in the weirdest places |
| 16:50.25 | Semlar | although he may have moved |
| 16:50.58 | Semlar | you have a barracks, can you check if UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEDED fires when you hire a guy? |
| 16:52.33 | nevcairiel | the guy you talk to despawns, and the bodyguard spawns in his place, you can see it happen, so there is no spell cast in that instant |
| 16:52.43 | nevcairiel | but once he is spawned, he casts something in the combatlog |
| 16:53.03 | Semlar | what do they cast |
| 16:53.08 | nevcairiel | ie CLEU SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS with a spell named "Reputation Check" |
| 16:53.38 | nevcairiel | oh wait, there is also a spell the player cast |
| 16:53.42 | nevcairiel | 173993 |
| 16:54.09 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=173993 |
| 16:54.18 | Semlar | i like that that spell is called Summon Leorajh and summons bloodmane earthbinder |
| 16:54.32 | nevcairiel | well it did summon my leorajh =p |
| 16:54.37 | Semlar | :| |
| 16:54.47 | Semlar | it clearly says summon bloodmane earthbinder |
| 16:55.16 | nevcairiel | i guess that may be the generic name of that follower when you see it on someone else? |
| 16:55.29 | nevcairiel | ie. delvar is called stormshield deathknight |
| 16:55.32 | kullervo | speaking of followers, am I supposed to have some way to access the follower's special abilities such as portals? |
| 16:55.45 | Semlar | i think you can talk to them? |
| 16:55.47 | kullervo | When they're acting as a bodyguard that is |
| 16:55.49 | nevcairiel | yeah, talk to them |
| 16:55.53 | kullervo | I only see the option to tell them to fuck off |
| 16:56.02 | nevcairiel | then you need to level his reputation |
| 16:56.04 | Semlar | they have to be leveled up to get it |
| 16:56.07 | kullervo | ah right |
| 16:56.18 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=173633 |
| 16:56.30 | nevcairiel | yeah, like is suspected, delvar summons a stormshield death knight |
| 16:56.38 | nevcairiel | so its the general purpose name shown there |
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| 17:22.47 | fewyn | almost disenchanted my [Peon's Mining Pick] :/ |
| 17:26.09 | Amarande | hm, I can't even quite remember what that is |
| 17:26.13 | Amarande | I'd probably DE it too, though LOL |
| 17:26.13 | mikma | you should use my Post-It or Stamp -addons ;) |
| 17:26.45 | Amarande | oh, it's actually useful in general |
| 17:27.10 | Amarande | does not need to be equipped for the mining boost. nice. |
| 17:27.17 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info22014-Post-it.html |
| 17:27.18 | mikma | :P |
| 17:27.24 | Amarande | mostly thinking I don't play that many characters that use 1H strength axes :S |
| 17:27.31 | mikma | or.. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info23314-Stamp.html :P |
| 17:33.01 | znf | oh my $deity |
| 17:33.04 | znf | that addon is awesome |
| 17:33.17 | znf | I needed that! |
| 17:40.32 | Amarande | yay, hard drive upgrade ordered for my ps3, finally :) |
| 17:44.26 | mikma | amarande: http://imgur.com/gallery/i08Cy1V |
| 17:44.51 | Amarande | mikma: amazon better not do that, LOL |
| 17:46.07 | mikma | amarande: subtle changes are always the best? http://i.imgur.com/SiS3fuB.png |
| 17:47.20 | Amarande | hah @ one of the comments ... "Still better than Seagate" |
| 17:47.35 | mikma | ouch, hehe |
| 17:48.12 | Amarande | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00C9TECFO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is what I got |
| 17:53.50 | Semlar | "decided to open it up" |
| 18:01.07 | Fisker | oh wow |
| 18:01.17 | Fisker | 47% chance of maybe getting a weapon upgrade from a follower mission |
| 18:01.18 | Sharparam | Semlar: how was it you detected a bodyguard/patrolling follower? |
| 18:01.19 | Fisker | Should I take it |
| 18:02.16 | Sharparam | there are flags for guardian, but all guardians are not bodyguards |
| 18:02.39 | Semlar | Sharparam: well i can detect you telling someone to patrol with you because they cast a spell but nevcairiel said bodyguards don't |
| 18:03.01 | Sharparam | hm |
| 18:03.04 | nevcairiel | you yourself cast a spell when you summon a bodyguard |
| 18:03.04 | Semlar | since i don't have a barracks i can't test anything myself |
| 18:03.25 | Sharparam | is there some addon that makes /etrace more usable |
| 18:03.38 | Semlar | you can just x out of all the events you don't want to watch |
| 18:03.49 | Sharparam | yeah but that takes a while until you get rid of all the spam :P |
| 18:03.55 | Semlar | which is practically everything as soon as you open it |
| 18:04.01 | Sharparam | it would be so nice to just /etrace <list of events i want to listen for> |
| 18:04.09 | Semlar | yeah well the old event trace let you do that |
| 18:04.30 | Semlar | before it was merged into the ui |
| 18:04.53 | Semlar | i don't know if there's an addon for it any more |
| 18:05.03 | Semlar | it couldn't be very difficult to make one |
| 18:07.41 | Semlar | the original devtools let you select what events you wanted to watch for, but i think they probably removed that when they built it into the ui because they would have had to keep the event list up to date |
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| 18:08.47 | znf | wait a second |
| 18:08.50 | znf | there's an /etrace?! |
| 18:08.57 | Semlar | tries to calm znf down |
| 18:09.07 | znf | :-| |
| 18:09.37 | znf | wow... this could have been useful weeks ago! |
| 18:09.39 | Sharparam | there's also an /fstack |
| 18:09.47 | Sharparam | and /run! |
| 18:09.55 | Semlar | and /dance! |
| 18:10.05 | Sharparam | i just got the dance follower mission |
| 18:10.07 | Sharparam | coincidence? |
| 18:10.17 | kullervo | I THINK NOT |
| 18:10.19 | kullervo | applies tinfoil |
| 18:10.24 | znf | yeah, I knwo the rest! |
| 18:10.28 | Sharparam | are we dancers? |
| 18:10.32 | znf | but etrace... dear $deity |
| 18:10.35 | Sharparam | oh wrong order |
| 18:10.36 | Sharparam | bleh |
| 18:10.56 | Sharparam | E: Use of undeclared variable $deity |
| 18:12.25 | kullervo | sharing this here as well http://imgur.com/gallery/KkKK3RC |
| 18:12.33 | kullervo | since I'm sort of proud of it |
| 18:13.06 | karl_w_w | such a beautiful baby kullervo |
| 18:13.24 | karl_w_w | is it a boy or a girl? |
| 18:13.53 | kullervo | karl_w_w: yes |
| 18:14.31 | Sharparam | TIL there's a PLAYER_STARTED_MOVING event |
| 18:16.25 | Semlar | it's for the map fading |
| 18:18.32 | Sharparam | so there's a few spells |
| 18:18.37 | Sharparam | if i go and choose vivianne |
| 18:18.55 | Sharparam | there's two UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED with "Maintain Vivianne" and "Summon Vivianne" |
| 18:19.54 | Sharparam | then there are some SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS in CLE(U) with "Reputation Check" cast by Vivianne |
| 18:22.34 | Sharparam | the CLEU doesn't have a destination, only source, so potentially it also fires if i'm in a friend's garrison and they summon a bodyguard? |
| 18:23.29 | mikma | http://www.wowhead.com/item=118474 |
| 18:23.31 | mikma | eh, hehe? |
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| 18:27.01 | Sharparam | INSTANCE_ENCOUNTER_ENGAGE_UNIT fires as well |
| 18:27.12 | Sharparam | which is apparently "Fires when a boss has been engaged in an instance" |
| 18:27.37 | Sharparam | fires when i summon or dismiss a bodyguard |
| 18:32.35 | Sharparam | oh right, derp, the sourceFlags |
| 18:32.39 | Sharparam | on cleu |
| 18:45.12 | Semlar | INSTANCE_ENCOUNTER_ENGAGE_UNIT fires when you hire a bodyguard? |
| 18:45.41 | Semlar | with what arguments |
| 18:45.59 | Sharparam | no args |
| 18:46.01 | mikma | shirik: HERE! TRY MY CHURCH! BECAUSE JE SUS AND god IS THERE! http://imgur.com/gallery/vDSwI |
| 18:46.25 | Semlar | do they have a boss frame? |
| 18:46.51 | Sharparam | how do i check :P I can't see any on screen currently |
| 18:46.57 | Sharparam | not sure if i have something that disables boss frames though |
| 18:47.01 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.06 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOVFvcNfvE Star Wars 7: The Milking |
| 18:47.19 | Sharparam | gives false |
| 18:47.20 | Semlar | it seems highly unlikely that they'd be considered a boss |
| 18:49.51 | Sharparam | i can have a follower on patrol and another as bodyguard at the same time |
| 18:50.24 | Semlar | you can only have one bodyguard assigned to the barracks right |
| 18:50.42 | Sharparam | yes |
| 18:50.48 | Semlar | i wonder if you can query who that is without accessing the table thing |
| 18:50.50 | Sharparam | could that info be queries? |
| 18:50.53 | Sharparam | queried* |
| 18:51.06 | Sharparam | where does one start figuring that out... |
| 18:51.17 | Semlar | there are a crapton of garrison functions |
| 18:51.49 | Semlar | but i THINK you can check if a follower is "working" regardless of whether you're at a table |
| 18:52.03 | Semlar | and i'm guessing you can check what building they're assigned to |
| 18:52.58 | Sharparam | there's C_Garrison.GetFollowerInfo and GetBuildingInfo |
| 18:53.05 | Sharparam | and GetFollowerInfoForBuilding |
| 18:53.07 | Sharparam | whatever that is |
| 18:54.43 | Sharparam | GetFollowerInfo doesn't seem to return any info about whether they're working or even on a mission, according to wowpedia |
| 18:54.55 | Sharparam | GetBuildingInfo is undocumented |
| 18:57.52 | karl_w_w | doctor who fans http://angryfeet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1826 |
| 18:58.23 | Sharparam | barracks has buildingID 27 apparently, and dumping GetBuildingInfo(27) gives: https://gist.github.com/Sharparam/6f0ae0b8e6d126583be0 |
| 19:02.09 | Sharparam | if i do GetFollowerInfo(300) (9th return of building info), i get "Candice Morey", which is a follower i don't have and is not assigned to barracks, so that's some other number then |
| 19:02.10 | Sharparam | oh |
| 19:02.13 | Sharparam | it's the upgrade cost in gold |
| 19:02.41 | Sharparam | the values in the 14th table return all give nil on follower info function |
| 19:02.42 | Semlar | local followerName, level, quality, displayID, followerID, garrFollowerID, status, portraitIconID = C_Garrison.GetFollowerInfoForBuilding(ID) |
| 19:03.01 | Sharparam | where is that from? :P |
| 19:03.21 | Semlar | Blizzard_GarrisonBuildingUI.lua |
| 19:03.31 | Sharparam | hm, what's ID here? |
| 19:03.35 | Semlar | the building |
| 19:03.37 | Sharparam | tried the building id but no go |
| 19:04.07 | Semlar | the plot id? |
| 19:04.21 | Sharparam | let's see what that is |
| 19:04.42 | Sharparam | ah |
| 19:04.44 | Sharparam | that works |
| 19:04.48 | Sharparam | returns vivianne |
| 19:09.39 | Sharparam | bah |
| 19:09.51 | Sharparam | status is "Working" regardless of she being with me or not |
| 19:09.55 | Sharparam | would be nice if that updated |
| 19:10.00 | Sharparam | but it's probably localized |
| 19:12.04 | mikma | nice, Spintires is on greater sale in steam than in kinguin atm |
| 19:20.11 | foxlit | so, quick poll: should addons abuse the follower work order bonuses or not? |
| 19:20.24 | Sharparam | hm? |
| 19:21.31 | foxlit | if work orders are resolved only when you loot them, you don't have to keep followers inside buildings until you want to pick them up. |
| 19:21.47 | Fisker | sure |
| 19:21.53 | Fisker | Dumb design deserves abuse |
| 19:21.56 | mikma | cairenn: http://i.imgur.com/fEBJyU7.jpg |
| 19:22.35 | Fisker | Eh |
| 19:24.01 | Sharparam | detecting when a bodyguard is summoned seems to be more tricky |
| 19:24.10 | Sharparam | each follower has a different "Reputation Check" spell id |
| 19:24.40 | karl_w_w | 1) go to google translate, 2) translate from somali, 3) type random words like "ooga booga mooga aha" |
| 19:25.28 | mikma | karl_w_w: ei tarvetta, minä voin kirjoittaa sinulle 'täydellistä' suomea samaan rahaan ilman että sinun tarvitsee mennä googleen! |
| 19:25.58 | karl_w_w | but I don't want Finnish |
| 19:27.11 | mikma | karl_w_w: ei voi mitään. se on nyt pakkosyöttöä. |
| 19:28.14 | karl_w_w | = "can not do anything. it is now forced to feed." |
| 19:28.38 | mikma | pretty much :) |
| 19:31.44 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/4x316DL <- wrong, not even close to legal state yet. maybe in 2017. |
| 19:37.35 | karl_w_w | at least you're getting somewhere, australia has a prime minister that trained to be a priest |
| 19:40.30 | mikma | but you also have kangaroos |
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| 20:10.54 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/exp.jpg << any better way to phrase that than "In log"? |
| 20:13.03 | mikma | foxlit: available |
| 20:13.42 | Arrowmaster | hahahaha http://www.cardsagainsthumanity.com/ |
| 20:13.47 | foxlit | mikma: isn't that confusing in terms of whether it counts up or down? |
| 20:14.08 | foxlit | i.e. does "available: 1/70 hours" mean that it's gone in an hour, or that it's gone in 69 hours? |
| 20:14.38 | mikma | foxlit: Left? |
| 20:15.40 | foxlit | at the same time, I don't want to assert that it'll actually expire by the time that thing rolls around to 0 or 70/70. |
| 20:21.03 | mikma | well then you are fucked |
| 20:32.57 | plaw | probably old for this # but.... BATMAN VS DARTH VADER! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj23dwWHukY |
| 20:33.12 | karl_w_w | so I finally got a garrison invasion, how long do they take? |
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| 20:45.22 | mikma | plaw: what a piece of bullshit |
| 20:48.24 | plaw | mikma: https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10565258_10152799416844123_1079936248714939085_n.jpg?oh=edde1a3bea27782cb9cdd5297dd0ca74&oe=550A8312&__gda__=1426960127_f948d66f199dca42f5ac91d4464e999d |
| 20:49.09 | mikma | plaw: already saw it in imgur :( |
| 20:51.05 | karl_w_w | 0 missions available |
| 20:51.22 | karl_w_w | only 1 of my missions is level 100 |
| 20:51.26 | karl_w_w | game hates me |
| 20:51.36 | plaw | mikma: http://img.dennisr.net/bane_batmansucks.jpg |
| 20:52.11 | plaw | oops I probably shoul;dn't have posted that. apols, Cairenn! |
| 20:57.14 | Sharparam | does anyone here know if another player's bodyguard shows as "Vivianne" or some other name when the non-owner views it? |
| 20:57.27 | Sharparam | my friend's belf mage follower had a generic name for me but an actual name for him |
| 21:00.39 | Amarande | good question, and oh god what if the other *player* is named Vivianne, at that :) |
| 21:00.55 | Amarande | or did anyone who happened to have a character name that matches a follower name get flagged and forced to change when the xpack hit? |
| 21:01.06 | Sharparam | UnitIsPlayer or whatever |
| 21:01.15 | Sharparam | though there is probably an NPC somewhere named vivianne... |
| 21:01.24 | Sharparam | but maybe not in dreanor |
| 21:01.27 | Sharparam | draenor* |
| 21:01.34 | Sharparam | bodyguards only follow you around there |
| 21:01.48 | Sharparam | but is she named Vivianne in warspear as the questgiver to get her... |
| 21:02.30 | Sharparam | damnit blizz why can't you just add a "bodyguard" unitid |
| 21:10.17 | mikma | plaw: you're a bad little fckr aren't ya? ;) |
| 21:12.07 | znf | Sharparam: your Vivianne shows as "warspear mage" to other people |
| 21:12.51 | Sharparam | then maybe it will be decently reliable to just scan for the bodyguard name in PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED |
| 21:13.01 | Sharparam | and mouseover |
| 21:13.19 | znf | wonders what Sharparam is trying to do |
| 21:13.32 | Sharparam | keep check of the bodyguard health |
| 21:13.34 | Sharparam | to display in a frame |
| 21:16.11 | znf | Ah |
| 21:21.17 | mikma | doesn't the bodyguard have GUID? |
| 21:24.08 | Sharparam | i was told the GUID may change |
| 21:24.16 | foxlit | you can't query health by guid, anyway. |
| 21:24.29 | Sharparam | no but you can verify the target with UnitGUID |
| 21:25.06 | Sharparam | but apparently they're not GUIDs, they're SGRIDs |
| 21:25.13 | Sharparam | Semi-Globally Randomized IDs |
| 21:26.13 | plaw | this one is definiateletely safe for Cairenn https://twitter.com/CuteEmergency/status/538422130141310976 |
| 21:27.34 | mikma | foxlit: no, but you can use it to query everything :P |
| 21:31.11 | Amarande | yeah, not EVERYTHING is in the GUID, alas :( |
| 21:31.40 | mikma | no, but you can use it to query everything :P |
| 21:31.57 | Amarande | I still remember when we first moved to GUID units, and having those nice little wishful thinking thoughts like "hmm, is the mob's loot embedded in the GUID somehow?" :D |
| 21:34.26 | Shadowed | foxlit why is master plan so ugly :( |
| 21:35.25 | mikma | YEAH BITCH! needs more neonglow and blinking led lights |
| 21:35.28 | mikma | also a strobo |
| 21:37.57 | znf | What's ugly about it? |
| 21:38.25 | Shadowed | the giant default colored buttons |
| 21:38.30 | Shadowed | that are like 50x too big |
| 21:38.47 | Shadowed | and are just hanging outside the window randomly |
| 21:38.52 | znf | Uhm |
| 21:38.56 | mikma | whaaat |
| 21:39.38 | znf | The only thing hanging out in masterplan are the traits, when you hover them |
| 21:39.55 | znf | You are maybe thinking of Garrison mission control? |
| 21:40.01 | Shadowed | oh wait |
| 21:40.01 | Shadowed | maybe |
| 21:40.19 | Shadowed | OOPS |
| 21:40.25 | mikma | http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/garrison-mission-manager |
| 21:40.35 | znf | Manager, whatever |
| 21:41.23 | foxlit | np, giant buttons incoming in next release. |
| 21:42.05 | mikma | call it a "shadowed special" |
| 21:42.34 | foxlit | znf: what's going on with traits? |
| 21:44.14 | znf | foxlit: when you hover the racials, they're too many and tend to go out a bit |
| 21:44.25 | foxlit | Could you screenshot that for me? |
| 21:44.32 | znf | When I get home |
| 21:44.36 | znf | On my phone now |
| 21:44.45 | foxlit | or I could screenshot that for you |
| 21:45.19 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/i/trait.jpg |
| 21:45.35 | znf | Hmmm |
| 21:45.40 | znf | I'll check it again |
| 21:46.43 | Sharparam | to only record damage/healing, do i need to care about anything but _DAMAGE and _HEAL in CLEU? |
| 21:46.59 | foxlit | Then again, maybe it's a German client and the Followers label becomes Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän or something. |
| 21:47.08 | znf | foxlit: oh, there was an error last night when you scrolled the list and had an uncollected follower |
| 21:47.32 | znf | Did you happen to fix that? |
| 21:47.40 | foxlit | in .1 |
| 21:48.05 | znf | Maybe my Curse client forgot to update. I'll have to check |
| 21:49.34 | znf | Also, I think GMM started doing crap in combat |
| 21:49.52 | znf | I got an error from it during a challenge mode |
| 22:12.44 | Amarande | znf: the addon blamed for taint is rarely the addon that caused it |
| 22:13.42 | Amarande | tbh the taint system sucks, but it exists for a reason and I'm not really sure I could have come up with a better solution either |
| 22:14.14 | znf | Amarande: I never mentioned a taint |
| 22:14.27 | znf | It was a "script run too long" or something like that |
| 22:14.30 | Amarande | znf: most of the time when you get sudden errors in combat it's because something or other in the UI is tainted |
| 22:14.31 | Amarande | ah |
| 22:14.51 | Amarande | I don't see those often in my WoW career and I'm not quite sure what causes those :( |
| 22:14.56 | znf | I know how a taint "looks" |
| 22:14.58 | znf | :P |
| 22:15.20 | nevcairiel | taints znf |
| 22:20.27 | foxlit | hm, time to make another ransom-note ui choice. What button graphic best represents "show me some group choices"? |
| 22:25.00 | tz | IN_MISC_QuestionMark |
| 22:25.04 | tz | +V |
| 22:25.12 | tz | ;) |
| 22:25.21 | Amarande | foxlit: probably one of the engineering bomb icons |
| 22:25.27 | Amarande | we are talking random groups right? :) |
| 22:25.38 | foxlit | garrison parties. |
| 22:25.42 | Amarande | ah. |
| 22:25.45 | Amarande | hrm. |
| 22:25.46 | Semlar | there's a texture with like 3 silhouettes but i don't remember where |
| 22:26.06 | Semlar | might be a bnet thing |
| 22:26.10 | foxlit | I have the one-person variant of that in code; it's named similarly. |
| 22:26.22 | foxlit | in Icons\ |
| 22:26.29 | tz | Spell_Holy_ConsumeMagic |
| 22:26.39 | tz | looks like a "pick a card" magician dude I guess |
| 22:29.19 | Amarande | hm, can the dice icon from the "need" roll be referenced? |
| 22:29.32 | Amarande | that might work for a random pick too |
| 22:33.38 | tz | for the garrison: what about INV_Misc_GroupNeedMore? |
| 22:33.58 | tz | (or was that the silhouette one you were referring to) |
| 22:34.07 | znf | foxlit: the garrison ability button |
| 22:34.24 | foxlit | znf: the horde/alliance flag? |
| 22:34.28 | znf | No |
| 22:34.48 | znf | Put the action button on your bar |
| 22:34.59 | mikma | i'm say go with the leeeeeeeeroooooooy jenkins face |
| 22:35.00 | znf | And go outside draenor |
| 22:35.03 | mikma | aka, default paladin |
| 22:35.13 | znf | Or, rather, in a dungeon |
| 22:45.39 | foxlit | http://go-hero.net/box/eqi-group.mp4 |
| 22:51.20 | Sharparam | so i can now detect the bodyguard from building stats, and when i hire it, and track health updates via CLEU and mouseover/target |
| 22:51.28 | Sharparam | but i can't detect if i send it back to garrison :P |
| 22:52.48 | nebula169 | watch for gossip window options when it's active? |
| 22:52.59 | Sharparam | maybe |
| 22:53.07 | Sharparam | aren't they locale dependent though? |
| 22:55.29 | nebula169 | i imagine you could check UnitName("npc") == follower name |
| 22:55.56 | Sharparam | yeah but how to detect if the player actually sends them away with the gossip window? |
| 22:56.24 | Sharparam | gossip -> click "go back to garrison" option -> confirmation window -> player confirms -> now bodyguard is gone |
| 22:57.56 | nebula169 | well if there's a staticpopup for it, you can probably get the function that's called to actually send them back :p |
| 22:58.18 | Sharparam | i suppose |
| 22:58.44 | Sharparam | now where might that code be in the wow ui source |
| 22:59.19 | Sharparam | search for "bodyguard" returned nothing |
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| 23:07.24 | Sharparam | bleh |
| 23:07.32 | Sharparam | the static popup is GOSSIP_CONFIRM |
| 23:08.36 | jleclanche | ~ping |
| 23:08.36 | purl | ~pong |
| 23:16.29 | Sharparam | can't find any C_Garrison functions referencing sending bodyguards back either |
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| 23:45.18 | Sharparam | pushed my code in case anyone's interested: https://github.com/SharpWoW/LibBodyguard-1.0 |
| 23:49.28 | Sharparam | neat |
| 23:49.42 | Sharparam | CLEU gives information about the bodyguard passive healing after they go out of combat |
| 23:49.53 | Sharparam | at least for a bit |
| 23:51.50 | Sharparam | bleh, nvm |
| 23:52.26 | Sharparam | maybe i can just reset to max health if player goes out of combat and it didn't register bodyguard health as zero at any point |
