| 00:00.50 | Trela | Anyone know if it is possible to view the level 3 garrison upgrade cinematic again? -_- Fucking OS X client just stayed on the loading screen while playing it. |
| 00:01.16 | Ivnedar | I don't think so, it's not a true cinematic |
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| 00:05.38 | karl_w_w | level an alt :P |
| 00:09.22 | karl_w_w | [08:09:06] Rulkan says: Can I be of service today? |
| 00:09.33 | karl_w_w | my followers are feeling neglected |
| 00:13.07 | Trela | Well, this fucking sucks. |
| 00:13.25 | foxlit | the cinematic? |
| 00:14.18 | Trela | Yes. |
| 00:14.25 | foxlit | there's always youtube. |
| 00:14.31 | Trela | Not the same. ._. |
| 00:15.34 | foxlit | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gede8eWEytU |
| 00:17.03 | Amarande | WoW really should have a cutscene re-viewing NPC |
| 00:17.30 | foxlit | it does. |
| 00:17.35 | Trela | There is one in the level 3 garrison. It includes everything EXCEPT the garrison stuff. |
| 00:18.00 | Ivnedar | It only has the cinematics sadly :( |
| 00:18.57 | Trela | Garrison upgrades are pure cinematics. |
| 00:19.34 | Ivnedar | they're scripted events with a fixed camera position |
| 00:19.58 | Ivnedar | it uses your instance to show it |
| 00:20.05 | Ivnedar | instead of cutting visuals and playing a movie |
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| 00:40.47 | foxlit | Trela: /run MovieFrame_PlayMovie(MovieFrame, 194) |
| 00:42.04 | Trela | foxlit: You're fucking amazing. :D |
| 00:42.08 | Trela | hugs, squeezes! |
| 00:44.59 | Semlar | NEFFI |
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| 01:18.33 | Neffi | Semlar! |
| 01:18.51 | Neffi | why do we keep missing each other? maybe it wasn't meant to be |
| 01:19.17 | Semlar | garrison neffi |
| 01:19.28 | Semlar | i have a stable |
| 01:19.39 | Neffi | I don't know what that means |
| 01:19.44 | Semlar | and it puts random mounts you own in the stable |
| 01:19.51 | Neffi | cool |
| 01:19.54 | Semlar | what do you mean you don't know what that means! |
| 01:20.01 | Neffi | I didn't get WoD |
| 01:20.08 | Semlar | YOU SHOULD STILL KNOW WHAT A GARRISON IS |
| 01:20.09 | Neffi | haven't keep track of the changes in a while either |
| 01:20.24 | Neffi | I mostly skimmed over the garrison stuff |
| 01:20.44 | Semlar | it's your own miniature town |
| 01:21.25 | Neffi | that's like number 1093 on my list of things I want |
| 01:23.02 | Semlar | anyway, you know what stables are |
| 01:23.10 | Neffi | you put horses in it? |
| 01:23.39 | Amarande | it's ... basically player housing, it sounds like |
| 01:23.53 | Amarande | with a bunch of embellishments, because player housing is so like, 2007 |
| 01:23.56 | Semlar | i have no idea what player housing is |
| 01:24.01 | Ivnedar | oh nice, blizz released current subscriber count |
| 01:24.04 | Semlar | it's literally a town |
| 01:24.22 | Amarande | Semlar: player housing, when you have your own sort of dwelling stuff in an MMO |
| 01:24.35 | Semlar | well you don't really have a house in warcraft |
| 01:24.54 | Amarande | most MMOs seem to have it, though of the ones I've played, SW:TOR just got player housing recently (and I'm still not sure why you need it, you have a SHIP ...) |
| 01:24.59 | Amarande | and you can't afford housing in FFXIV |
| 01:25.00 | kd3 | sanity, @WarcraftDevs is a consolidated dev twitter handle |
| 01:25.08 | Amarande | so LOTRO's the only one that I've actually had a house in heh |
| 01:26.00 | Neffi | Wildstar's housing looked kinda cool |
| 01:26.03 | Ivnedar | that's a pretty huge jump in numbers for WoD launch |
| 01:26.15 | fewyn | housing in ffxiv so disappointed me |
| 01:26.20 | fewyn | when they introduced personal housing |
| 01:26.25 | fewyn | it's just fc housing :( |
| 01:27.14 | Amarande | fewyn: well, you pretty much have to be an FC to actually afford one, heh |
| 01:27.54 | Amarande | I took the tour of Mist on Shadarra ... I think prime beachfront property in Malibu might be cheaper ... LOL |
| 01:28.52 | Amarande | heh, and yet if you put things unit for unit, the same prices would be only a few thousand gold in WoW |
| 01:28.59 | Amarande | testament to how inflated the WoW economy is anymore :( |
| 01:30.00 | Amarande | (unit for unit for the MMOs I've played would be 1 LOTRO gold = 10 WoW gold = 100,000 FFXIV gil/SWTOR credits) |
| 01:31.16 | Amarande | btw, how bad is ... wait, I can check that on undermine journal |
| 01:32.24 | Amarande | huh. apparently 16 and 18 slot bags have actually dropped in price since last expansion, after getting more and more ridic every time in the past |
| 01:32.28 | Amarande | nice. |
| 01:32.50 | kd3 | because 16s and 18s only take cheap (that is, not daily-constrained) mats now |
| 01:33.03 | kd3 | it was like that since 5.0 |
| 01:33.27 | Amarande | hm, pretty sure imbued netherweave never had a cooldown |
| 01:33.40 | Amarande | you just needed a good source of BC greens to mash into arcane dust |
| 01:34.12 | Amarande | (assuming you take enchanting with tailoring, like ... pretty much everyone it seems) |
| 01:34.43 | Amarande | but yeah, the 20 and 22 slot bags were always expensive, which I understood, but even the 16 and 18 slot bags on the realms I played on were getting expensive for a while |
| 01:34.50 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/MNEmsf5.jpg ha |
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| 01:50.47 | fewyn | the mage is doing 2k dps in this 100 normal dungeon |
| 01:50.48 | fewyn | :/ |
| 01:55.28 | Thunder_Child | With the number squish I am not sure if that's good or bad. |
| 01:55.44 | Amarande | yeah, I don't even know how the number squish relates to old school numbers |
| 01:56.09 | Amarande | 2k sounds pretty terrible, the only time I remember doing DPS that awful on my mage even at 90 was when I was in Kara and kept getting stupid Red Riding Hood for the theatre |
| 01:56.16 | Amarande | and even then I think I still was getting 3k+ |
| 01:56.19 | Amarande | but that was pre squish, ofc |
| 01:56.54 | Amarande | hah, wonder what the damage figure would be there now |
| 01:57.19 | Amarande | worse than a starter zone character now maybe even? LOL |
| 01:57.37 | Ivnedar | I'm pretty sure my prot warrior does more than 2k |
| 01:57.43 | Amarande | oh, also, good thing blizzard isn't ubisoft :) |
| 01:57.50 | Amarande | you guys hear what just happened? |
| 01:57.55 | Ivnedar | no? |
| 01:58.05 | Amarande | Ivnedar: apparently ubisoft forum admins accidentally banned world |
| 01:58.16 | Amarande | doesn't matter where you are or on what isp, it says "you're ip banned" |
| 01:58.43 | Ivnedar | nice :D |
| 02:00.39 | Ivnedar | maybe nitesmoke is an admin there |
| 02:05.42 | fewyn | insane servers seem to be dying |
| 02:09.58 | Thunder_Child | Maybe it's just me but I feel that Khadgar could solo Dreanor. |
| 02:14.13 | xyphoid_ | i laughed at that bit where he iceblocks the assassin |
| 02:17.07 | fewyn | man my connection to the servers tonight is super flaky |
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| 02:17.42 | Amarande | maybe the internet's dying, heh |
| 02:18.01 | Amarande | maybe the world |
| 02:18.24 | Amarande | dammit, now I want to play Digital Devil Saga again ... but I don't really feel like buying games from PSN until I get around to upgrading my PS3 HDD :( |
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| 02:23.29 | Amarande | for the moment it's time to figure out where to reroll in FFXIV |
| 02:26.45 | fewyn | gilgamesh |
| 02:30.52 | Amarande | hmm ... maybe. crap. "character creation restricted" :( |
| 02:33.30 | Amarande | when's the next restriction update ... not till 1AM local, looks like |
| 02:33.41 | Amarande | speaking of which. Square is literally the only entity I've seen refer to noon as "0:00 pm" :) |
| 02:41.20 | nebula169 | probably because that's wrong, in literally any context |
| 02:42.34 | Amarande | nebula169: heh actually, if you really want to use AM and PM properly, then midnight should be 12 (and the only 12), noon should be zero (because both AM and PM are relative to "meridiem" i.e., noon) |
| 02:42.43 | Amarande | and AM should actually count DOWN from 12:00 to 0:00 |
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| 02:43.21 | Amarande | that would probably have driven mechanical clock makers insane to implement I suppose, though |
| 02:43.35 | Amarande | not to mention converting 12 to 24 hour clocks would be insane |
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| 02:56.50 | Mr_Rabies | not entirely impossible but wouldn't be very compact |
| 03:06.45 | Ivnedar | two rings of numbers around the clockface, one for morning, one for evening |
| 03:07.09 | Ivnedar | would be easy for sundials! |
| 03:22.37 | znf | foxlit, somehow this is showing me the wrong mount http://i.imgur.com/wuZV7yO.png |
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| 03:27.50 | Amarande | heh ... I didn't even know the Tundra Mammoth *HAD* two faction-specific versions of the spell ... |
| 03:28.37 | Amarande | wouldn't be surprised if foxlit forgot too, since usually faction neutral mounts don't have separate versions, far as I'm aware ... presuming come to think of it that the tundra mammoth is an oddball exception because of the NPCs |
| 03:29.17 | Amarande | (also, how many people actually can get the tundra mammoth and have time to come to #wowuidev to talk about their UI ... you gotta actually be spending your time in GAME to get that much gold :P) |
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| 03:31.12 | Gethe | i got it in wrath |
| 03:31.33 | Gethe | it's only like 10k |
| 03:31.37 | Amarande | oh, wait, that's the yak that costs 120k, not the mammoth *facepalm* |
| 03:32.10 | Gethe | yeah, the yak way expensive |
| 03:32.31 | Amarande | heh, now that brings back memories, the mammoth |
| 03:32.47 | Amarande | I still remember when I was in ICC late in Wrath and guild was hearing rumours that the tundra mammoth was being removed in 4.0 |
| 03:32.55 | Amarande | *shakes head* so many rumours |
| 03:32.56 | Gethe | lol |
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| 03:50.01 | znf | What's the difference between :Enable() |
| 03:50.01 | znf | and :SetEnabled(true) ?! |
| 03:54.44 | Shirik | one was created by a good developer, and one was created by someone who was too lazy to check the API before creating a function that already existed |
| 03:58.04 | Semlar | just two methods to do the same thing |
| 03:58.48 | znf | >_< |
| 03:58.58 | znf | they're both in the Blizzard_GarrisonMissionUI.lua |
| 04:05.06 | Semlar | well, sometimes i want to use Show and sometimes i want to use SetShown |
| 04:06.02 | Semlar | usually if you're toggling the value, like SetShown(not self:IsShown()) or something |
| 04:23.38 | Amarande | Soo ... anyone who feels like their LFR team is the worst raiders ever ... nope, they're not |
| 04:23.46 | Amarande | the worst raiders ever apparently come from Oakland |
| 04:24.00 | Amarande | unlike them, LFR teams actually win every now and then :) |
| 04:36.07 | ccox | Amarande: ouch |
| 04:36.21 | ccox | (says the guy in the south bay) |
| 04:37.20 | znf | Simca, wth is this? http://www.curseforge.com/paste/mtl9pv2ijhn7xoa8/ |
| 04:40.32 | Simca | a quick attempt at an addon to skip mission complete dialogues |
| 04:40.36 | Simca | and output rewards to chat |
| 04:41.15 | znf | I made an addon that kind of does that... want to extend it a bit, want to hide the chest animation, and just open it straight away, but I can't figure this thing out |
| 04:41.42 | znf | But I'm just overriding blizzard's functions |
| 04:41.52 | Simca | znf: are you the author of Breeze? |
| 04:41.56 | znf | Yes |
| 04:41.59 | Simca | haha nice |
| 04:42.23 | Simca | when I saw that I stopped progress on adapting mine for live |
| 04:42.40 | znf | ...damn you :D |
| 04:42.47 | znf | these functions are not documented at all :-/ |
| 04:42.56 | znf | and testing is annoying as hell, having to wait for a mission to complete |
| 04:43.01 | Simca | yeah it is |
| 04:43.06 | znf | Any idea if I can stop it from marking it internally as completed? |
| 04:43.16 | Simca | i used multiple level 100s on beta to test |
| 04:43.41 | znf | I tried overwriting GarrisonMissionComplete_Initialize and commenting out C_Garrison.MarkMissionComplete(mission.missionID); |
| 04:43.43 | znf | but that didn't do shit |
| 04:44.18 | Simca | I had very little luck overriding those functions |
| 04:44.26 | Simca | that's why i took this approach |
| 04:44.37 | znf | I did do a bit more experimenting |
| 04:44.43 | znf | But I broke like half of the garrison :D |
| 04:44.58 | znf | People were somehow reporting that they don't get loot... but that can't be possible :P |
| 04:45.24 | Simca | there is just no notification of any kind, so that's why they'd report that |
| 04:45.30 | znf | yup |
| 04:45.56 | Simca | C_Garrison.GetCompleteMissions() is the main function - it returns a table of missionIDs |
| 04:46.06 | Simca | and each missionID is itself a table |
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| 04:46.47 | Simca | C_Garrison.GetCompleteMissions()[missionID]["state"] is a state machine variable that blizzard appears to use to track mission completion |
| 04:46.50 | znf | Yeah, I figured that. I tried marking them "completed" manually at first (or so I thought), so the animation doesn't play... but that didn't work out at all |
| 04:46.57 | Simca | I based the addon around that |
| 04:48.42 | Simca | state -1 means the mission needs to be completed via C_Garrison.MarkMissionComplete |
| 04:48.43 | znf | I probably read Blizzard_GarrisonMissionUI.lua like a dozen of times now. |
| 04:49.03 | Simca | state 0 means the mission needs to be bonus rolled via C_Garrison.MissionBonusRoll |
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| 04:49.10 | znf | I see |
| 04:49.21 | znf | well, I think I kind of figured that out on the beta, too |
| 04:49.26 | Simca | the problem is the timing of the event firing |
| 04:49.32 | Simca | there is a delay |
| 04:50.03 | Simca | and if you run the code linearly, so that you try to bonus roll after marking the mission as completed, it will not always succeed |
| 04:50.43 | znf | tried that, failed badly :D |
| 04:50.50 | Simca | I think I noticed that problem in Breeze, yeah |
| 04:51.55 | Amarande | yeah, that's basically the one thing Lua is absolutely worst at, compared to practically any other task you can throw at it |
| 04:52.05 | kd3 | oof. haven't run my win7 vm in a while... 1500MB of updates to get |
| 04:52.21 | znf | I think latest version of breeze fixes most things |
| 04:52.32 | Amarande | it fails miserably at any sort of construct where event A needs to absolutely happen after event B, unless A and B are actually being triggered in that order by the same function |
| 04:52.36 | znf | but I really want to have that damn chest opening automatically |
| 04:52.46 | Simca | it can i think |
| 04:53.08 | Simca | lemme take a look at breeze code and see if this can be adapted to work |
| 04:53.10 | Amarande | (wait ... it absolutely fails in that latter circumstance ... yay, Amarande, you've failed your first Idiotest) |
| 04:53.14 | znf | wait, let me push everything |
| 04:53.53 | Amarande | *facepalm* |
| 04:54.03 | Amarande | don't forget to dot every T and cross every I, too ... heh |
| 04:54.43 | Simca | yeah there are some excellent contradictions out there in event timing that can ruin even the best of addons |
| 04:54.47 | znf | There |
| 04:55.01 | Amarande | Simca: especially if you need to have event A happen after event B, and you do so by triggering A and B in that order :) |
| 04:55.01 | Simca | like that 1 in 1000th chance that LOOT_OPENED will fire after LOOT_CLOSED |
| 04:55.12 | znf | if I run GarrisonMissionCompleteChest_OnMouseDown() manually, I get the chest opened |
| 04:55.16 | znf | or GarrisonMissionComplete_ShowRewards() |
| 04:55.27 | znf | but I tried calling it inside GarrisonMissionComplete_AnimLine |
| 04:55.31 | znf | didn't work :-| |
| 04:55.45 | Simca | C_Garrison.MissionBonusRoll should be the correct function to call directly |
| 04:56.04 | Amarande | but yeah, I knew what I meant, heh |
| 04:56.25 | znf | ok, let's try that |
| 04:56.30 | znf | meh, crap |
| 04:56.31 | Simca | what is your goal though, to keep using blizzard's default UI, just without animations of any kind and the chest already opened? |
| 04:56.33 | znf | no completed mision |
| 04:56.37 | Simca | so all they have to do is hit next? |
| 04:56.42 | znf | yeah |
| 04:56.52 | Simca | gotcha |
| 04:57.01 | kd3 | hell, automating away the 'hitting next' step would be nice too |
| 04:57.57 | znf | kd3, could do that |
| 04:58.23 | znf | in theory should be able to do C_Timer.After(2, GarrisonMissionFrame.MissionComplete.NextMissionButton:Click) |
| 04:58.44 | znf | Obviously, my debug print didn't fire inside GarrisonMissionCompleteChest_OnMouseDown |
| 04:58.45 | znf | :-( |
| 04:59.15 | znf | I don't think I can override that function, I don't know why :-/ |
| 04:59.40 | Simca | I had similar problems, like I mentioned earlier. sometimes I just couldn't override them |
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| 05:16.57 | znf | 5 more minutes until I can test... |
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| 05:25.29 | znf | woo, addon testing time! |
| 05:26.48 | znf | ok, so only GarrisonMissionComplete_BeginAnims triggers |
| 05:26.50 | znf | nothing else :-| |
| 05:27.39 | Simca | i have a pretty good idea how to fix my code to work consistently; just using the events instead of a timer |
| 05:27.47 | znf | Simca, C_Garrison.MissionBonusRoll(GarrisonMissionFrame.MissionComplete.currentMission.missionID) worked |
| 05:27.58 | Simca | excellent |
| 05:28.00 | znf | but I need to show the resources somehow :D |
| 05:28.13 | znf | currently it ends up like this: http://i.imgur.com/JbAcpjV.png |
| 05:29.03 | Simca | yeah, if you beat the UI to the punchline in completing the bonus roll, it won't fire its anims probably |
| 05:29.15 | znf | let's try calling GarrisonMissionComplete_ShowRewards(self) |
| 05:29.34 | znf | nope, didn't work |
| 05:30.27 | znf | ok, let's try something else |
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| 05:31.34 | znf | I have only one more mission to test :D |
| 05:33.00 | karl_w_w | what |
| 05:33.22 | karl_w_w | i left wow alone for like |
| 05:33.34 | karl_w_w | at least 4 hours |
| 05:33.43 | karl_w_w | and it didn't log me out |
| 05:33.51 | znf | Simca, so, I can totally trigger the bonus manually. But I want to show the mission result :-/ |
| 05:33.57 | karl_w_w | i came back and got a message you can't log out now |
| 05:34.22 | znf | karl_w_w, combat? |
| 05:36.12 | znf | wth is SetAnimation() |
| 05:40.29 | karl_w_w | sitting in my garrison |
| 05:40.54 | kd3 | you probably got desynched. I suspect you actually did get disconnected from the server. the client just doesn't know it |
| 05:40.59 | karl_w_w | and i doubt combat would prevent an afk logout, that sounds super exploitable |
| 05:41.06 | kd3 | try walking out into shadowmoon/frostfire proper? |
| 05:41.55 | Simca | i've seen some weird things involving DCs before - my friend has a very old computer and twice so far her WoW has crashed on logout, and when it happens, she remains online and ingame forever |
| 05:41.57 | karl_w_w | well i did a bunch of things already |
| 05:42.02 | Amarande | karl: did a monster with buggy data come by and kill you and now you're in a coma and only able to interact through the internet? :) |
| 05:42.03 | Simca | until she tries to login again the next day |
| 05:42.08 | karl_w_w | sent followers on missions, collected work orders |
| 05:42.16 | kd3 | odd |
| 05:42.19 | karl_w_w | im flying to gorgrond now |
| 05:42.38 | znf | karl_w_w, uhm, that does (or did?) actually work |
| 05:42.48 | znf | people have been "exploiting" afk combat in rfc/stockades for years |
| 05:42.50 | Amarande | (... I may or may not have seen too much anime) |
| 05:43.06 | karl_w_w | really |
| 05:43.17 | kd3 | yup. maybe blizz'll actually fix it for once |
| 05:43.19 | karl_w_w | why don't people just right click a training dummy and afk :P |
| 05:43.33 | kd3 | since knowledge of it spread quite a bit during the launch queues |
| 05:43.37 | karl_w_w | Amarande, I haven't seen enough anime :P |
| 05:43.47 | Amarande | karl: that was the plot of .hack//SIGN :P |
| 05:43.59 | znf | karl_w_w, why do you think they just removed training dummies in garrisons? :D |
| 05:44.05 | Amarande | I'm not really sure why you'd want to be stuck in combat, though, generally speaking |
| 05:44.09 | Amarande | given how many things you're not allowed to do in combat |
| 05:44.18 | karl_w_w | too much convenience obviously! |
| 05:44.19 | Amarande | and really the only benefit you'd get from it is that rage and runic power never peter out |
| 05:44.24 | Simca | the point is to avoid logout |
| 05:44.31 | Simca | you can't be logged out of the game in combat |
| 05:44.34 | Simca | even forcibly |
| 05:44.34 | kd3 | if you want to afk and stay logged in, getting in a fight with something that can't kill you is a good way to do it |
| 05:44.38 | znf | as long as you had a mob attacking you, you would have stayed online |
| 05:44.55 | kd3 | it's exploitative, but it's an ancient method |
| 05:45.03 | Amarande | lemme guess ... it's considered a problem because of the queues :P |
| 05:45.12 | Ivnedar | the dire maul ghosts used to be the place to do it |
| 05:45.20 | znf | back in MoP, a /who Ragefire brought up pages :D |
| 05:45.25 | Ivnedar | they don't attack back, they keep you in combat, and they never die |
| 05:45.31 | Amarande | which means it's actually orders of magnitude more damaging than cheating raids, weirdly enough :| |
| 05:45.41 | znf | queues are no longer a problem now :P |
| 05:45.49 | kd3 | mostly |
| 05:45.49 | Simca | if you go to a low level area where a quest has continuously spawning mobs and put on a piece of armor with +damage on hit, then it's pretty simple |
| 05:45.52 | znf | they instanced my realm |
| 05:46.00 | kd3 | they instanced all the realms |
| 05:46.08 | znf | at 6pm I had a queue of 3 |
| 05:46.14 | znf | (down from 4500 a few days ago) |
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| 05:49.43 | znf | Our garrisons still don't work most of the time, though :D |
| 05:49.57 | znf | or most instances... |
| 05:50.11 | znf | ie: we get the dungeon queue paused with a full group of 5 people |
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| 05:51.42 | Ivnedar | I'm sad when my garrison instance is on a US server |
| 05:51.43 | karl_w_w | funny, i havent had any issues at all apart from a couple of random DCs |
| 05:51.45 | Amarande | ouch, I'm gladder and gladder I chose FFXIV instead of WoD |
| 05:52.02 | karl_w_w | but my realm is somethink like top 5 most populated in the world |
| 05:52.07 | karl_w_w | somethink! |
| 05:52.09 | Ivnedar | take a step outside the garrison, 35ms latency, take a step inside, 350ms latency |
| 05:52.28 | Amarande | heh, dialup latency |
| 05:52.35 | Amarande | I remember when I used to play Quake at that latency |
| 05:52.45 | Amarande | and somehow did decently, oddly enough |
| 05:52.47 | Ivnedar | Up until a few weeks ago, that's what I played all games at :) |
| 05:52.57 | Ivnedar | until oceanics came to AU :D |
| 05:53.34 | znf | karl_w_w, mine's #3 EU |
| 05:54.26 | Amarande | I guess being fond of the super nailgun helped make up for the lag |
| 05:54.40 | Amarande | less acc, huh? more dakka! :) |
| 05:55.55 | Amarande | anyway, time for sleep |
| 06:09.31 | p3lim | anyone messed with the draenor zone ability button/spell yet? |
| 06:10.22 | znf | what's to mess with? :P |
| 06:10.31 | p3lim | can't seem to use it in a macro |
| 06:10.53 | Ivnedar | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.56 | Ivnedar | or something like that |
| 06:11.02 | Ivnedar | it's a generic name that you see while in your garrison |
| 06:11.05 | znf | oh, no idea |
| 06:11.08 | p3lim | oh |
| 06:11.10 | znf | I just dragged mine to the action bar |
| 06:11.22 | Ivnedar | the icon and tooltip update when you change zones, but the name to call it on doesn't |
| 06:11.28 | p3lim | Trying to mix it into my mount macro for nagrand ;) |
| 06:11.41 | Ivnedar | Talbuk + Strider = win |
| 06:11.51 | Ivnedar | Talbuk + Goblin Glider = "flying mount!!" |
| 06:12.20 | Ivnedar | I wonder if they'll fix he strider affecting the talbuk |
| 06:12.50 | znf | Ivnedar, you must have not picked the wolf in nagrand :D |
| 06:13.10 | Ivnedar | I assume horde get a wolf instead of a talbuk then? :) |
| 06:13.40 | znf | oh, you guys get a talbuk? |
| 06:13.43 | Ivnedar | yeah |
| 06:13.45 | Ivnedar | talbuk or tank |
| 06:15.33 | Ivnedar | the strider waterwalking invisible buff gets applied before the check to see if you're already mounted does |
| 06:15.44 | Ivnedar | and doesn't get removed when it realises you're mounted |
| 06:16.47 | p3lim | wait, you're able to run on water with the nagrand mount? |
| 06:16.56 | Ivnedar | yes |
| 06:16.59 | p3lim | ... |
| 06:17.03 | Ivnedar | if you use the strider mount after using the nagrand mount |
| 06:17.11 | p3lim | explain to me exactly the methods of this sorcery please |
| 06:17.17 | Ivnedar | mount up on nagrand mount |
| 06:17.21 | Ivnedar | mount up on strider mount |
| 06:17.33 | Ivnedar | normally mounting up on a new mount dismounts you first, that doesn't happen with the nagrand mount |
| 06:17.47 | Ivnedar | so the mount cast continues, the waterwalking buff applies, it gets to the end of the cast, realises you're mounted and cancels |
| 06:17.54 | Ivnedar | leaving you with the nagrand mount and the waterwalking buff :) |
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| 06:18.55 | znf | Simca, |
| 06:18.55 | znf | HA! |
| 06:18.58 | znf | IT WORKED! :D |
| 06:18.59 | p3lim | oh wow |
| 06:19.23 | Ivnedar | so you can ride around, interact with things, ride over water, continue on, all without dismounting :) |
| 06:19.31 | Ivnedar | the buff is lost in the usual annoying ways, going into combat, etc |
| 06:19.31 | znf | Simca, oh |
| 06:19.33 | znf | but I broke something |
| 06:19.39 | Ivnedar | but easy enough to reapply |
| 06:19.53 | p3lim | And with the Treessassin's Guise you can vanish while staying mounted too! |
| 06:20.45 | znf | Simca, https://gfycat.com/SafeUnderstatedGonolek |
| 06:21.28 | p3lim | xp for capped followers? |
| 06:21.31 | p3lim | I don't follow |
| 06:22.03 | p3lim | Ivnedar: if you get hit you lose the invisible buff it seems |
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| 06:24.01 | p3lim | also, what is the buff spell id for the talbuk? |
| 06:29.29 | Semlar | once your followers are level 100 you continue gaining experience until they're epic |
| 06:29.36 | p3lim | ah |
| 06:29.47 | Semlar | which takes a crapton more experience than it does to get to level 100 |
| 06:30.26 | znf | 60k for green to rare |
| 06:30.31 | znf | 120k for rare to epic |
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| 06:52.15 | Simca | ah znf I finally understand the events |
| 06:52.30 | Simca | Blizzard realized that the event timing was godawful too |
| 06:53.00 | znf | oh |
| 06:53.13 | Simca | so they added an argument to the events (the second arg of both GARRISON_MISSION_COMPLETE_RESPONSE and GARRISON_MISSION_BONUS_ROLL_COMPLETE) that tracks whether or not your request succeeded in being processed |
| 06:53.23 | Semlar | is there a way to see how many skillups crafting something gets you on wowhead |
| 06:53.27 | Simca | if it is nil, your request failed but the event fired anyway |
| 06:53.32 | Simca | and you should try again |
| 06:54.18 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.18 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.18 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.18 | Simca | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:54.26 | Simca | that simple code fixed my addon lol |
| 06:55.35 | Mr_Rabies | argh |
| 06:55.49 | Mr_Rabies | i can't get the kind of gradient i'm trying for to happen how i want it to :( |
| 06:57.24 | Mr_Rabies | trying to somewhat replicate this for our guild site and i'm having a hell of a time doing what i want http://i.imgur.com/30nLdBM.jpg |
| 06:58.29 | znf | Mr_Rabies, background: gradient(rgba(...blabla)), url(image); |
| 06:58.56 | Mr_Rabies | beyond useless for me, unfortunately |
| 06:59.05 | znf | huh? |
| 06:59.20 | Mr_Rabies | while the site supports css i don't know how to work with it at all |
| 06:59.33 | znf | what's your image? |
| 07:00.37 | Mr_Rabies | for now, just a screenshot, was trying to make a photoshop file with a gradient layer already setup to overlay it |
| 07:00.47 | Mr_Rabies | so i could put whatever i want inside the gradient layer |
| 07:02.07 | Semlar | what makes you think you can apply a gradient to an image |
| 07:02.52 | Mr_Rabies | trying to de-pandafy the site and it's not working well |
| 07:03.13 | Mr_Rabies | http://outlawjustice.shivtr.com/ if you wanna see what we're running now |
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| 07:07.34 | Mr_Rabies | for some reason i had convinced myself the gradient was done with css |
| 07:07.57 | Mr_Rabies | until i checked and realized it was just an image, and i can't into coding |
| 07:09.24 | znf | Mr_Rabies, http://jsfiddle.net/n57pa5g7/ |
| 07:09.38 | znf | Semlar, You can :D |
| 07:09.50 | Mr_Rabies | lmao that image |
| 07:10.10 | znf | original image: http://data.chinahighlights.com/image/giant-panda/giant-panda-top.jpg |
| 07:10.16 | Semlar | that's not applying an alpha to it |
| 07:10.20 | Mr_Rabies | problem is i have no clue how to apply that, znf |
| 07:10.42 | Mr_Rabies | the site manager has a css section but i have zero clue how to interface with it |
| 07:11.10 | Semlar | not that it matters i guess, if the background is a solid color |
| 07:11.46 | Mr_Rabies | oh wait, have to have a paid plan for css |
| 07:11.50 | Mr_Rabies | so that's out the window :v |
| 07:12.17 | Semlar | doing this with css is weird anyway |
| 07:12.23 | Semlar | just make the image how you want it to look |
| 07:12.48 | Mr_Rabies | i can't get a gradient to look decent in photoshop, but i'm only slightly better at photoshop than coding |
| 07:13.10 | Semlar | um just pick the gradient tool |
| 07:13.16 | Semlar | set it to linear |
| 07:13.20 | Mr_Rabies | it's highly imprecise |
| 07:13.27 | Mr_Rabies | i used guides and everything but |
| 07:13.29 | Semlar | what do you mean |
| 07:13.30 | Mr_Rabies | it's just eh |
| 07:13.34 | znf | I'd rather do it with CSS tbh :D |
| 07:13.41 | znf | likes css more than graphic software |
| 07:13.43 | Semlar | no this is a horrible thing to use css on |
| 07:14.00 | Semlar | especially considering compatibility issues |
| 07:14.20 | znf | I just discard all browsers who are not up2date |
| 07:14.31 | znf | s/who/which/ |
| 07:14.33 | Semlar | that is not how you do web development |
| 07:14.47 | Mr_Rabies | like |
| 07:14.50 | Mr_Rabies | this is what i made: http://i.imgur.com/ikgRgfE.png |
| 07:14.52 | Mr_Rabies | i don't like it |
| 07:15.04 | Semlar | well your gradient doesn't extend to the edge |
| 07:15.22 | Mr_Rabies | i can't really get it to do what i want at all |
| 07:15.25 | Mr_Rabies | with the gradient tool |
| 07:15.26 | Semlar | link the source image |
| 07:16.41 | znf | What the hell did I fuckin' do to this shit that it now shows mobs attacks |
| 07:16.52 | Mr_Rabies | my goal is to just make a gradient layer i can slap any image onto |
| 07:17.04 | Mr_Rabies | but i can't get the gradient tool to not look awful |
| 07:17.05 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
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| 07:19.14 | Mr_Rabies | actually, reloading the default gradients and using its own "foreground to transparent" option yielded better results |
| 07:19.42 | znf | Simca, I wonder if I should have just messed up with ANIMATION_CONTROL |
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| 07:54.02 | p3lim | Is there any api/flag/whatever that you can use to determine the outpost type the player has in each zone? |
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| 07:57.45 | Semlar | their garrison ability? |
| 08:00.51 | p3lim | hrm.. |
| 08:01.19 | Semlar | http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/19116/DraenorZoneAbility.lua |
| 08:04.27 | Semlar | okay they appear to essentially do select(7,GetSpellInfo(GetSpellInfo(161691))) to get the spellid |
| 08:04.35 | p3lim | yeah |
| 08:07.05 | nevcairiel | that only works when in that zone though, if thats enough |
| 08:07.17 | p3lim | it's enough |
| 08:12.58 | znf | Is there some kind of way to figure out the name of an animation that is currently happening on the UI? |
| 08:13.00 | znf | or a specific frame? |
| 08:13.02 | znf | I'm going mad here |
| 08:16.11 | karl_w_w | i like the complicated wood |
| 08:16.24 | nevcairiel | its just not that simple |
| 08:18.10 | znf | Simca, I'm running out of ideas here. |
| 08:37.09 | znf | Thing is... I'm running out of short-time missions :( |
| 08:42.48 | znf | nevcairiel, why can't I override these functions? :( |
| 08:43.08 | nevcairiel | because you are doing it wrong most likely |
| 08:43.25 | znf | How could I do it wrong? :-/ |
| 08:43.34 | znf | I'm trying to override this: http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/19116/Blizzard_GarrisonUI/Blizzard_GarrisonMissionUI.lua#2232 |
| 08:43.37 | znf | so I did |
| 08:43.44 | znf | Or_GarrisonMissionComplete_AnimCheckEncounters = GarrisonMissionComplete_AnimCheckEncounters; |
| 08:43.48 | znf | GarrisonMissionComplete_AnimCheckEncounters = function(self, entry) |
| 08:43.58 | znf | then the function |
| 08:44.00 | znf | content |
| 08:44.01 | znf | stuff |
| 08:44.09 | znf | what's wrong about that? |
| 08:50.49 | Arrowmaster | grumble grumble cant sleep |
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| 08:55.17 | nevcairiel | znf: its directly referenced in ANIMATION_CONTROL , which is a local table, so you cant override that reference |
| 08:55.46 | znf | I also tried overriding GarrisonMissionComplete_FindAnimIndexFor |
| 08:55.51 | znf | I get that to trigger |
| 08:56.17 | znf | I tried this: http://i.imgur.com/YkxSVh2.png |
| 08:56.32 | znf | and JustReturn() returns nil simply |
| 08:57.05 | znf | That's not working? |
| 08:58.18 | znf | What if I override the functions that use ANIMATION_CONTROL ? |
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| 08:59.36 | znf | what the |
| 08:59.46 | Semlar | tries to calm MerlinZ down |
| 08:59.54 | karl_w_w | hodor |
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| 09:09.59 | Semlar | rip wowinterface |
| 09:10.55 | Semlar | maybe one of my nodes is down because the website claims it's up |
| 09:15.56 | znf | seank, indeed it does work here |
| 09:19.45 | znf | erm, I mean Semlar |
| 09:19.46 | znf | whatever |
| 09:20.35 | znf | Does anyone have any idea how the Mining carts in the mine work? I picked up all my nodes about ~3 hours ago, but I had a lot of carts now when I visited. I have a lvl2 mine and a follower in it |
| 09:21.09 | karl_w_w | what the fuck activating a follower costs 250g |
| 09:21.42 | znf | yup |
| 09:21.43 | karl_w_w | that in itself is dumb, the fact that it doesnt tell you that before deactivating them is ridiculous |
| 09:22.34 | Semlar | surprise! |
| 09:24.59 | karl_w_w | does a random heroic give apexis? |
| 09:25.05 | karl_w_w | like the first one or something? |
| 09:25.45 | Semlar | as far as i know, no |
| 09:26.08 | Semlar | the only thing it's given me is bonus rep for mop factions |
| 09:26.11 | Fisker | just gives more gold according to the screen |
| 09:26.16 | Fisker | and more bonus rep of course |
| 09:26.24 | Fisker | but that's useless |
| 09:28.44 | Semlar | the weapon i got out of a heroic dungeon is still worse than my mythic heirloom |
| 09:29.28 | Semlar | i'm not sure what i'll be replacing it with |
| 09:31.02 | znf | nevcairiel, thanks! that got me going to the correct direction! :) |
| 09:32.04 | znf | I like how they make it so you still get gold from a random heroic if you queue with a fullparty |
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| 09:39.08 | Dagmar | I think maybe LFG for Heroic's needs a safety for if you've not yet finished all the dungeons in regular mode. |
| 09:39.33 | Dagmar | I had the wrong thing selected, wound up in Heroic Auchindoon. Didn't figure it out until the second 630 dropped |
| 09:41.00 | Dagmar | I didn't die once and got the double-achievement, but it was still *rough* never having seen it before. |
| 09:51.11 | Constie | It's told me that every time I've deactivated one, karl_w_w. |
| 09:52.27 | nevcairiel | indeed, it tells you quite clearly |
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| 10:10.57 | Semlar | deactivates nevcairiel |
| 10:16.18 | Constie | RIP. |
| 10:16.27 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: sounds like the heroics are too easy then imho if you are clearing them on the first try in a pug |
| 10:24.50 | nevcairiel | auchindoun is on the easy spectrum, also a good group can easily carry one or two dpsers who have no clue |
| 10:25.12 | nevcairiel | as long as the tank and one or two other guys know what to interrupt and whatnot |
| 10:27.02 | Sintacks | meow |
| 10:27.09 | Sintacks | activates nevcairiel |
| 10:27.15 | Sintacks | nulls Semlar |
| 10:31.44 | Semlar | D: |
| 10:38.24 | znf | I wonder if I should even bother with hiding the mission checkmarks |
| 10:38.38 | znf | (and skip straight to the follower xp screen) |
| 10:39.17 | znf | It currently works like this: https://gfycat.com/SelfishWelcomeAbalone |
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| 11:36.29 | karl_w_w | gay something tainting my quest tracker frame so i sometimes can't use the items |
| 11:36.43 | karl_w_w | that was meant to be gah, but I'm going with it |
| 11:49.53 | NuSuey | damn those Mac client functions in the UI :X why are they mac-only :X |
| 11:52.25 | Sintacks | like? |
| 11:53.36 | Mr_Rabies | video recording, etc, but i think those have been broken or unreliable for a while? |
| 11:53.49 | Sintacks | oh. that. |
| 11:53.58 | NuSuey | Mr_Rabies: it doesn't work? oh.. haven't had a hackintosh for a while.. I liked that function in WoW |
| 11:54.15 | Mr_Rabies | i think it works, but after a certain version stopped working or something, i can't recall |
| 11:54.17 | Mr_Rabies | it might be fine nowadays |
| 11:55.12 | nevcairiel | blizzard doesnt really care all that much about the mac client, so mac-exclusive features working reliably is something i wouldnt bet on :D |
| 11:56.07 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Grandmas smoking weed for the first time. Then playing CAH. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRBAZJ4lF0U |
| 11:56.19 | NuSuey | wait.. all the ingame cinematics are on WoW's channel? :O (unlisted) |
| 11:56.54 | Sintacks | doesn't supprise me to be honest |
| 11:59.35 | NuSuey | well I was working on getting the cinematics video + audio together, but if they are already on the channel.. hmm.. I can use that instead |
| 11:59.45 | tlund | NuSuey: URL?! :) |
| 11:59.49 | tlund | NuSuey: I want to rewatch! |
| 12:00.10 | NuSuey | tlund: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/4334-Warlords-of-Draenor-In-Game-Cinematics |
| 12:01.24 | tlund | NuSuey: thanks! |
| 12:07.39 | NuSuey | too bad I couldn't see any of those till now >.< http://i.imgur.com/FYeZ7Tk.png |
| 12:10.15 | nevcairiel | you could just play the game |
| 12:10.21 | nevcairiel | wild idea, but it might just work |
| 12:16.54 | NuSuey | nevcairiel: hey, I want to see the awesome cinematics like everyone else >.< blizzard people were so nice that they created these cinematics for us.. |
| 12:17.47 | NuSuey | well If I can split up these cinematics and link em I can finally end my work on the addon.. woo |
| 12:20.04 | Sintacks | what addon |
| 12:22.41 | NuSuey | well just a minimalistic addon which stops the movie playback and posts the link to the video where the video can be seen out of wow (for people who have problem with the cinematics playback like me - and yet they want to watch the video which was played) |
| 12:23.39 | Sintacks | never had a video fail to play except in Wrath when trying to load the change in the game crashed the game. (Wrathgate) |
| 12:24.33 | NuSuey | I thought I would have to extract the videos - merge with the audio (example - Interface\Cinematics\WOD_DPI.avi + Interface\Cinematics\WOD_DPI.mp3) yet the audio isn't mp3 and this way the video would be without sound.. but if the videos are available on wow's channel.. i can just grab em and split em (since they garrison videos are merged) |
| 12:24.59 | NuSuey | Sintacks: well since I'm using Linux and the OpenGL renderer.. I (and people using it) have the problem sadly |
| 12:26.08 | NuSuey | I could use the directx9 renderer (cinematics would work this way) but I like to have more FPS .. yet when a cinematics is played via OpengGL - you get a green screen like I posted |
| 12:29.17 | NuSuey | well the problem is the renderer .. you get the same green screen while in Windows and running it in OpenGL .. and Blizzard won't fix it probably https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sk&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Feu.battle.net%2Fwow%2Ffr%2Fforum%2Ftopic%2F12617603767&edit-text= |
| 12:30.46 | NuSuey | TLDR: working on a workaround for something that doesn't work >.< |
| 12:32.30 | nevcairiel | you should do what the blue guy suggest, run WoW on a OS for which it is developed |
| 12:34.16 | NuSuey | nah;) |
| 12:34.22 | NuSuey | thanks but no thanks :P |
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| 12:52.22 | karl_w_w | it's become daytime in wow |
| 12:52.33 | karl_w_w | at nearly midnight server time |
| 12:54.14 | nevcairiel | sounds like it runs on US time |
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| 13:07.05 | NuSuey | yes.. found a way how to put a start & end time on a youtube video .. hell yes |
| 13:13.33 | NuSuey | Really thanks everyone who helped me the past few days with the addon & other stuff.. didn't knew I'll encounter so many great and helpful people & an awesome community in here.. and at least this way I dip me feet into the addon creation world and I feel I might continue to learn more and do more. I'm not leaving or anything, I just wanted to say THANKS! |
| 13:14.21 | NuSuey | now I'm gonna be a bit more quiet since I filled almost a whole screen of text with my babble :) |
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| 13:20.59 | Fisker | hucktles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:25.47 | Lopeppeppy | Happy morning to you too, Fiskerdin. |
| 13:33.33 | Sintacks | anyone want Insurgency for free? |
| 13:34.25 | Fisker | I'm gonna get it on an alt account like a boss |
| 13:34.51 | karl_w_w | anyone want Dota 2 for free? |
| 13:34.56 | Sintacks | lol |
| 13:35.33 | Fisker | I do karl_w_w |
| 13:35.49 | karl_w_w | well it's your lucky day! |
| 13:41.55 | Sintacks | wait. wow is bac up to 10mil subs? |
| 13:42.46 | Sintacks | but... that says dec count is 10m... but ... but ... it's not dec |
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| 14:16.17 | chaud__ | maybe I can predict the future |
| 14:23.26 | jleclanche | can you do half of ulduar as 10man and the other half as 25? |
| 14:23.55 | karl_w_w | dont think so |
| 14:25.46 | nevcairiel | you can |
| 14:25.53 | nevcairiel | but 25 is so easy, why would you want to |
| 14:26.00 | jleclanche | achievs in both |
| 14:26.29 | karl_w_w | amazing advice: don't hearth from an area with ambient frog sounds |
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| 14:28.48 | Fisker | morning Ressy |
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| 14:43.12 | NuSuey | I had no clue that mac os users have such FPS issues in WoD http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15007371444?page=1 :o |
| 14:50.16 | Ressy | Theres still an issue. |
| 14:50.52 | Ressy | s4d1k is on vacation I do believe, so it won't get fixed til he's back next month.. |
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| 14:55.09 | karl_w_w | "what's anorexia?" "it's a disease women get from reading magazines" heh |
| 14:56.17 | rid_ | :D |
| 14:56.58 | nevcairiel | NuSuey: did you read the post to the end, it was much improved in 6.0.3.19116 |
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| 14:57.38 | Ressy | There's still an issue with gpu vram on macs.. MysticalOS is the one to talk to about that. |
| 14:57.53 | Ressy | causing stuttering I do believe |
| 14:58.25 | NuSuey | nevcairiel: yeah, but I was unaware of the issues on the mac side for 6.0.X .. guess I don't have many friends who own a mac or have hackintosh :) |
| 14:58.46 | nevcairiel | everyone knows that osx is like the bastard step child, everyone should be lucky they dont dump support for it entirely |
| 15:00.42 | Ressy | lol |
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| 15:23.40 | Gnarfoz | I bet if they released their linux client, it'd work better than the OS X one |
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| 15:26.58 | Neffi | didn't they stop developing that halfway through all the way back in vanilla? |
| 15:27.12 | Neffi | -- oh, it was a joke. heh |
| 15:28.06 | Fisker | As far as I know they still have internal linux builds |
| 15:28.32 | mitch0 | someone should accidently them on the interwebs |
| 15:31.37 | foxlit | znf: Thanks, I had that too around Black War Bear. |
| 15:42.05 | Gnarfoz | Neffi: it was not a joke, see Fisker |
| 15:42.34 | Gnarfoz | (well, it was still a joke somewhat :P) |
| 15:43.41 | Neffi | Why do they even maintain Linux builds/compat? |
| 15:44.35 | Gnarfoz | probably not a big step if you already have an opengl version for osx anyway? no idea |
| 15:46.15 | mitch0 | Neffi: probably some of the devs play the linux version |
| 15:46.37 | mitch0 | Neffi: we used to do that when I was at a gamedev shop. the linux client never got released... |
| 15:47.41 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:51.08 | Ressy | If they released Linux builds, they'd have to support htem. ;) |
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| 15:55.14 | mitch0 | that's why they should just accidently leadk them |
| 15:55.18 | mitch0 | leak |
| 15:55.30 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: looks like VP9? |
| 15:55.45 | Gnarfoz | Video: PVP9 1280x720 30fps 2237kbps |
| 15:58.49 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: shouldn't lav be able to decode that? :o |
| 15:59.02 | Gnarfoz | I read something about vp9 splitting at least |
| 16:00.10 | nevcairiel | thats not an official vp9 fourcc, its probably encrypted |
| 16:00.25 | Gnarfoz | ah ok |
| 16:00.35 | Gnarfoz | can I make lav/mpchc try regardless? |
| 16:00.42 | Lopeppeppy | Where is Newport Beach, CA, relative to any fabulous loungies? I might be shanghied to a conference in March. |
| 16:00.56 | Gnarfoz | shangwhat |
| 16:02.07 | Gnarfoz | Ressy: that wasn't the question though |
| 16:02.15 | Gnarfoz | (and the obvious reason why nobody does linux clients0 |
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| 16:08.18 | jleclanche | so on the topic of garrisons, if you destroy a building and then get it back later, do you have to do the quests again? |
| 16:08.42 | jleclanche | like would you have to do http://www.wowhead.com/quest=36948 again if you completed it then destroyed the building |
| 16:09.04 | nevcairiel | doubtful |
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| 16:24.23 | karl_w_w | pretty sure it's impossible to do a quest twice |
| 16:27.06 | nevcairiel | It could reset it, but I don't see it |
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| 16:52.56 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: foxlit: looks like VP9? << vp9 fourcc is VP90; vlc refuses to decode either one. |
| 16:53.14 | Gnarfoz | what nevcairiel said, then |
| 16:53.57 | nevcairiel | One wouldn't invent a new video codec, so its probably encrypted or something |
| 16:55.49 | foxlit | the much simpler variant would be just scrambling the fourcc itself, which will make most things refue to play it. |
| 16:57.47 | nevcairiel | I guess |
| 16:58.13 | nevcairiel | But also super easy to work around |
| 17:03.17 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/kYg28 :D |
| 17:08.46 | g0urra | how's this for a level 3 garrison? http://www.wowhead.com/garrison-calc#G_NDIQMBJ-E48BSEFooBcKGEMBkkOz8D-JQ4cFGo |
| 17:11.36 | nevcairiel | I really like the barracks myself |
| 17:12.15 | g0urra | I don't really get that one |
| 17:13.33 | fewyn | the garrisons gives you an extra 5 active followers |
| 17:13.36 | fewyn | which is pretty nice |
| 17:13.37 | fewyn | imo |
| 17:13.42 | fewyn | the barracks* |
| 17:14.08 | g0urra | I never use the followers |
| 17:14.14 | fewyn | looks like a decent setup, i don't think there's going to be a real "perfect" one tho |
| 17:14.26 | fewyn | which is what i love about it |
| 17:26.21 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/leubh8F |
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| 17:59.40 | foxlit | hm, maybe this is getting a bit long: /cast [flyable,outdoors,nocombat,noswimming,nomod][flying] {{spell:40120/33943}}; [outpost:corral,spec:103,nomod] {{spell:768}}; [outpost:corral,spec:104,nomod] {{spell:5487}}; [swimming,nomod][glyph:1127,outdoors,nomod][noglyph:164,flyable,nomod][noglyph:164,flying] {{spell:783}}; [nocombat,outdoors,nomod:alt] {{mount:ground}}; [outdoors] {{spell:783}} |
| 18:01.12 | zenzelezz | god damnit Origin, let me choose to view the English page, not the damn Norwegian one... |
| 18:03.20 | Shirik | so the ultimate question today is whether or not to chain up my car |
| 18:05.02 | zenzelezz | has it been trying to escape? |
| 18:11.15 | pompy1 | http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/20/at-least-two-people-reported-shot-at-florida-state-university-library/ jeeez. |
| 18:11.32 | karl_w_w | foxlit, you don't have /dismount at the end of that |
| 18:11.50 | foxlit | And why would I want /dismount at the end of that? |
| 18:12.02 | karl_w_w | so you can dismount on command |
| 18:12.56 | karl_w_w | how do you dismount when you want to? |
| 18:13.06 | karl_w_w | or do you just never do it manually |
| 18:13.27 | foxlit | cast cat form, typically. |
| 18:13.59 | karl_w_w | i guess |
| 18:16.43 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/16863396/warlords-of-draenor-journey-into-highmaul-11-20-2014 |
| 18:20.19 | Thunder_Child | ~lart zenzelezz |
| 18:20.19 | purl | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags zenzelezz into court suing for $200 million |
| 18:22.05 | zenzelezz | "The Iron Horde has arrived! Lasse, take you place on the front lines" ... 1) I already bought it. 2) I've been freaking trying, but your servers don't want to help out |
| 18:22.10 | zenzelezz | so quit sending me newsletters about it |
| 18:28.09 | Thunder_Child | They want to rub it in. |
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| 19:05.55 | foxlit | teehee, Pulverize counts as active mitigation |
| 19:11.50 | Amarande | well, usually the most actively effective way of mitigating damage taken is to pulverise the mobs as soon as possible, indeed |
| 19:11.56 | Amarande | given that dead mobs don't do *any* damage :) |
| 19:12.17 | Amarande | (well, unless they're stupid annoying things that explode, but those are more of a Diablo staple than WoW) |
| 19:13.04 | Amarande | oh, you probably mean the ability Pulverize ... which I'm not even sure what class it's from |
| 19:13.19 | Amarande | (I'm guessing warrior or some form of animal druid, since those are the two class types I've never really played or researched much) |
| 19:14.05 | Amarande | only ever got to about level ... 21 on warrior, and on druid I always end up going Balance/Resto dual spec on principle :) |
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| 19:23.22 | Stanzilla | you should write a book about it |
| 19:28.58 | Torhal | Stanzilla: He does, every damn time he's in channel. |
| 19:29.25 | Stanzilla | I know! |
| 19:29.26 | Stanzilla | I have a few Google Inbox invites, anyone? |
| 19:39.29 | Amarande | what exactly is the difference between google inbox and gmail? |
| 19:39.38 | Amarande | thought an inbox was, you know, where your incoming emails go :) |
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| 19:43.54 | Dagmar | Inbox prioritizes your shit |
| 19:44.33 | Dagmar | Prioritizes and categorizes |
| 19:45.40 | Dagmar | Basicall,y, the Gmail view is still fundamentally a chronological inbox with a bunch of fuckin' folders on the side |
| 19:46.40 | Amarande | oh, so basically like procmail for your gmail, then |
| 19:46.41 | Dagmar | The Inbox view puts the filtering and sorting _first_, up to and including changing whether or not the thing will bother you because Little Timmy tweeted that he pooped, Bed Bath & Buggery are having a candlestick sale they desperately need you to know about, ...or an actual person emailed you directly. |
| 19:47.15 | Dagmar | It lumps financial stuff together, purchase reciepts together, promotional emails together, etc etc |
| 19:47.56 | znf | Simca, Hmmm https://gfycat.com/SelfreliantRegalCanary yeah, this damn thing fails :D |
| 19:48.14 | Amarande | Although, Timmy's tweet should be in the 'Social' tab and the sale post should be in the 'Promotions' tab, so I'm not sure why it's considered a new service to be handed out via invites instead of just new features for gmail :S |
| 19:50.39 | Simca | znf: i'm pretty sure the changes i made to my addon to make it event-based work fine. |
| 19:51.03 | Simca | but i don't think i'll bother publishing it since http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/compact-missions is so much better |
| 19:51.15 | znf | Simca, I tried that compact one |
| 19:51.17 | znf | it looks like crap |
| 19:51.23 | znf | couldn't understand anything :( |
| 19:51.35 | Simca | it's like the garrison UI except useful |
| 19:52.05 | Simca | when you mouseover a mission it highlights every follower with an ability relevant to the mission |
| 19:52.19 | znf | I know |
| 19:52.19 | znf | tried it |
| 19:52.24 | znf | uninstalled it 30 seconds later :D |
| 19:52.39 | Simca | when you have completed missions, you click on the % success chance, and it instantly completes it and displays everything as events |
| 19:52.41 | Dagmar | Amarande: What tab they're in doesn't matter as much as you can have your phone NOT chirp and wiggle because of Little Timmy's poop tweet |
| 19:52.50 | Simca | you probably could just take that part of the code and replace your addon with it |
| 19:52.59 | Dagmar | ...but still chirp and wiggle when an actual purchase notification or something comes in |
| 19:54.06 | Amarande | yeah, that's true. for things to not be like the android facebook app would be nice |
| 19:54.40 | Simca | UI definitely needs some basic polish though; should be better, events should be compacted and displayed longer, it should do GarrisonMissionFrame:Hide() when it opens the UI so that you don't see the blizz frame |
| 19:54.46 | Dagmar | I have been using the same email address for so long there are at least one company a month that "forgets" that I specifically opted to never hear from them over email |
| 19:54.53 | Simca | mission type icons should be displayed |
| 19:55.06 | Dagmar | That shit alone makes it worth my time to have Inbox scrutinizing my inbox with heuristics |
| 19:55.31 | Dagmar | The Livestream people might need a firebomb to get the message. |
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| 19:55.50 | Dagmar | ...and never get involved with any grassroots political anything. |
| 19:56.08 | Amarande | although I removed the facebook app from my phone eventually anyway and just use Messenger now |
| 19:56.43 | Dagmar | I have the app. It is *not* allowed to ntify my about a damn thing. |
| 19:56.44 | Amarande | not even because of "someone wants an extra life in Bubble Witch Saga" being a priority notification ... more because the thing eats batteries like hunter pets used to go through food |
| 19:58.17 | Arrowmaster | this damn system update available notification wont go away |
| 19:58.31 | Arrowmaster | i click later and its still there |
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| 19:59.56 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: at least you get notifications |
| 20:00.10 | Amarande | sometimes updates just reboot your phone without notice, even if you're in the middle of a call at the time :| |
| 20:00.38 | Arrowmaster | they never do that when you are using stock android, blame your shitty manufacturer for that |
| 20:01.06 | Dagmar | I fuckin' hope so |
| 20:01.16 | Dagmar | argh wrong channel |
| 20:01.43 | Dagmar | Updates do *not* just reboot a normal Android device, and certainly not in the middle of a call |
| 20:01.49 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: stock android ... that's pretty much only for people lucky enough to be able to buy a Nexus, far as I know heh |
| 20:02.00 | Dagmar | ...or people wiht the sense to install Cyanogenmod |
| 20:02.03 | Arrowmaster | or a google play edition |
| 20:02.47 | Arrowmaster | i only buy nexus devices, ive had 6 total now i think |
| 20:02.56 | Amarande | yesterday was weird. I got off of work and there was a notification that there was an update, the kind of major kernel update that you need to do a reboot and go through odin mode for |
| 20:03.10 | Amarande | then a couple hours after that the phone spontaneously rebooted mid call |
| 20:03.13 | Amarande | I'm not sure why now :S |
| 20:03.22 | Stanzilla | you talked too much |
| 20:03.26 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 20:03.27 | Amarande | it doesn't normally spontaneously reboot mid call |
| 20:03.54 | Dagmar | Something is very wrong if you're having to go to Odin mode to install manuf updates |
| 20:04.12 | Amarande | Dagmar: well, whatever that main plaintext linux progress bar type screen is |
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| 20:04.58 | Amarande | (and actually, I'm pretty sure there was at least one update since I got this Galaxy that *was* major enough to require full blown Odin mode ... though that one was when it actually went from Android 4.0 to 4.1) |
| 20:05.17 | Dagmar | Generally that means there was a bootloader update and you now have Knox |
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| 20:05.37 | Amarande | that one was special though I think ... I couldn't even get it from the regular update system, I had to actually install Kies on the computer and download it from there |
| 20:05.39 | Arrowmaster | another reason to not touch samsung |
| 20:05.52 | Dagmar | Yep. That was a Knox being installed into your bunghole |
| 20:06.34 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Did you see my link from early this morning? |
| 20:06.42 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 20:07.05 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Grandmas smoking weed for the first time. Then playing CAH. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRBAZJ4lF0U |
| 20:07.34 | Amarande | hm, not really too familiar with this knox thing |
| 20:07.49 | foxlit | wish they'd fix druid form interactions with mount bonuses, though |
| 20:07.59 | Amarande | interesting though ... googling indicates that galaxy devices with knox are approved for US Gov classified use |
| 20:08.11 | foxlit | missing on on those 10% is clearly game breaking. |
| 20:08.13 | Dagmar | Torhal: I don't think this was Gramma #2's first time |
| 20:08.35 | Amarande | which sounds like a MAJOR victory for Android in the mobile platform competitive space (also BlackBerry is probably really running scared now I'm suspecting) |
| 20:08.53 | Torhal | Dagmar: Yeah, seems to be some experience. |
| 20:08.58 | Dagmar | Amarande: Knox is a more secure bootloader |
| 20:09.17 | Dagmar | ...which makes image updates a much bigger pain in the ass than they need to be |
| 20:10.50 | Dagmar | Torhal: Yeah she definitely hit that thing like a pro |
| 20:10.55 | Simca | znf: to solve all your problems, imo, you should prevent the blizzard mission completion code from ever running |
| 20:11.04 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: lol |
| 20:11.15 | Simca | unregister its event handling of mission completion |
| 20:11.22 | Simca | and then just do it all yourself |
| 20:11.26 | Stanzilla | Torhal: oh god that is hilarious |
| 20:11.34 | Simca | manipulate the animations to the final state |
| 20:11.52 | Simca | otherwise the blizzard code is always going to screw with your plans |
| 20:12.12 | Simca | it's like two cooks trying to use the same pot |
| 20:12.31 | Torhal | Stanzilla: It's gold. |
| 20:12.47 | znf | Simca, I'll see. That's just a "side" option now. Will work on it another time. |
| 20:13.11 | Amarande | foxlit: heh, people do pay 5,000 gold for a relatively tiny boost in flying speed on a regular basis though :) |
| 20:14.37 | Dagmar | I'm pleased to say I scored the Pandaren flying off the black market AH for only 1,000 gold |
| 20:14.57 | Simca | probably because it is in the middle of nowheresville |
| 20:15.05 | Amarande | Dagmar: come to think of it, now is probably the best time ever to use the BMAH |
| 20:15.06 | Simca | and it is a hike to even get there |
| 20:15.15 | Dagmar | Also guarded by a bunch of mean ass level 100 ogres |
| 20:15.33 | Amarande | like ... who's even hanging in Pandaria anymore right now, except for characters still leveling up (who probably don't have enough gold to buy anything worthwhile anyway)? :) |
| 20:15.35 | Simca | i have no idea why'd they put it so far from a flight path |
| 20:15.40 | xyphoid_ | does the pandaria one still work? |
| 20:15.41 | Simca | it's not in Pandaria |
| 20:15.42 | Simca | no |
| 20:15.50 | xyphoid_ | i know there were people hiking straight to the Draenor one |
| 20:16.01 | Simca | it's in the Ring of Blood in Nagrand |
| 20:16.06 | Simca | which is far off the beaten path |
| 20:16.15 | xyphoid_ | i went there at 96 and there were 4-5 people hanging around |
| 20:16.18 | Amarande | it was rather off the beaten path in Pandaria too, though |
| 20:16.24 | Arrowmaster | expansion rush is a great time for a lot of things, i won my first fishing tourny the first weekend after an expansion release |
| 20:16.46 | Simca | Amarande: it was in the middle of the continent, 12 seconds from a flight path and an inn and the legendary quest giver |
| 20:16.49 | Amarande | yeah, I got the Gurubashi Arena trinket during an expansion rush if I recall right |
| 20:16.57 | Simca | also a minute flight from the capital |
| 20:17.11 | Amarande | and even then as I looted it I was convinced I was going to die at the last minute from a rogue I hadn't seen yet |
| 20:17.38 | Arrowmaster | i got that on a character that couldnt even equip it yet |
| 20:17.42 | Amarande | Simca: still, a place that you had fairly little reason to go to most of the time, except every few weeks when you finished a stage of your legendary quest |
| 20:18.02 | Simca | by that logic you would never have anywhere to go besides the capital |
| 20:18.22 | Amarande | Simca: we're talking Pandaria, you had reason to go almost everywhere else because of dailies |
| 20:18.36 | Simca | it was in the middle of the continent, so you flew over it half of the time |
| 20:18.55 | Simca | if you were going to the timeless isle it was literally right there |
| 20:19.33 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: heh. speaking of things that you get before you can equip them, I once obtained a quest item that I literally wouldn't be able to use for over 50 more levels (and since I never finished leveling that character, never did use heh) |
| 20:19.59 | Arrowmaster | what was it? |
| 20:20.09 | Amarande | one of the daily quest rare fish |
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| 20:20.38 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/nablv96.jpg |
| 20:20.41 | znf | "undecided"?! |
| 20:20.46 | Amarande | you can end up with one as soon as level 20 if you fish pools, when you're on your zen pilgrimage as a monk |
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| 20:21.25 | Simca | znf: try reconnecting maybe? |
| 20:21.38 | Simca | i mean if the entire game ended like that that's a pretty large bug |
| 20:21.45 | Amarande | znf: yeah shouldn't blue have won that? (unless I completely don't get scoring in this game) |
| 20:21.46 | znf | not me, a friend |
| 20:21.50 | Simca | ah |
| 20:22.01 | Dagmar | That's what happens when everyone sucks and there's no boobies to keep streamers watching |
| 20:22.05 | Simca | well the game was obviously receiving incomplete/flawed/no data |
| 20:22.09 | Simca | it says both teams were level 0 |
| 20:22.27 | Simca | so something definitely went wrong |
| 20:22.35 | Amarande | Then again, you're playing an AI team ... I kinda hope they didn't take a leaf from Microsoft Hearts, LOL |
| 20:22.37 | Amarande | oops, yeah, that's right |
| 20:23.13 | Simca | that is rather unfortunate to get 0 xp for 15 minutes though, lol |
| 20:23.26 | Amarande | I'm trying to figure out which moba this is :S |
| 20:23.34 | Arrowmaster | hots |
| 20:23.36 | znf | He said he wasn't able to move : |
| 20:23.37 | znf | :D |
| 20:23.42 | znf | stuck in base, nothing hapepend |
| 20:23.43 | Amarande | doesn't look like LOL ... Dota 2? oh, HOTS |
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| 20:35.24 | Thunder_Child | I'm enjoying HotS. |
| 20:36.51 | Ressy | its fun |
| 20:45.29 | fewyn | http://gfycat.com/RawIdolizedBoilweevil i love this emote |
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| 20:59.11 | fewyn | i wonder... if you put 2 followers with epic mount on the same mission does the party buff stack or can you only get it once? |
| 21:03.23 | Torhal | Would be nice to turn a 10 hour mission into 2.5 |
| 21:17.41 | foxlit | I wonder if it's a bad idea to relog in a garrison |
| 21:17.59 | foxlit | It seems to like release the instance rather quickly after you leave it :/ |
| 21:18.00 | Stanzilla | yesterday I was stuck there with 4 chars |
| 21:18.15 | Stanzilla | could not log in because logged out in garrison |
| 21:18.41 | Amarande | shouldn't you get hearthed if you log in to an instance that's no longer existent? |
| 21:18.59 | Amarande | you don't get your character perma locked until GM assistance if you log out in a dungeon, far as I know :S |
| 21:19.00 | Stanzilla | in theory yes |
| 21:19.03 | Stanzilla | in reality nopelol |
| 21:20.02 | g0urra | man I just love getting stuck on loading screen when hearthing to garrison |
| 21:21.19 | xyphoid_ | is that the 'character already exists' message |
| 21:21.36 | Alram | or world server not found |
| 21:22.57 | foxlit | g0urra: that shouldn't happen. |
| 21:23.07 | g0urra | well, it does |
| 21:23.16 | foxlit | it'll freeze on the loading screen for like 3 minutes and then kick you back to the world world instance. |
| 21:23.33 | Amarande | g0urra: ahh, the fun of hearthing gone wrong |
| 21:23.43 | pompy1 | can u tele to ur garrison? |
| 21:23.47 | Amarande | nothing really quite beats the time I tried hearthing off of the horde airship in icecrown once, though |
| 21:24.03 | g0urra | teleport to my garrison? what |
| 21:24.14 | g0urra | I alt+f4'd and when I got back I was at the garrison, win |
| 21:25.14 | Amarande | Tried hearthing, PRETTY sure my hearth was Dalaran. I did not, however, end up in Dalaran, or anything resembling Dalaran. |
| 21:25.39 | Amarande | What did happen instead was I ended up teleported to the far northwestern corner of the Icecrown zone, where I had a fatigue timer appear, and fell very slowly. |
| 21:25.42 | g0urra | tricksy mages |
| 21:26.18 | Amarande | And about a few seconds after I hit the water, I just insta-died for no apparent reason at all, even though the fatigue timer still had almost half a minute left and fatigue kills you through damage, not a one-shot insta auto kill |
| 21:26.23 | Amarande | And then when I released I was at XR |
| 21:33.14 | Arrowmaster | im so happy i got caught up on QuestionableContent right now |
| 21:33.22 | Dashkal | <3 QC |
| 21:36.33 | Neffi | http://i.imgur.com/dfBP5K6.mp4 <- this is terrific |
| 21:37.36 | Arrowmaster | lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kheiGCstgk |
| 21:37.51 | Arrowmaster | Neffi: watch the video of that |
| 21:38.02 | Arrowmaster | he does it to a 2nd car |
| 21:38.23 | Neffi | I know. I cracked up when the white car tries to pull the same thing |
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| 21:38.43 | Arrowmaster | oh its a long gif |
| 21:42.38 | Simca | welp |
| 21:42.59 | Simca | the idea of doing manual garrison success chance calculations just got blown to pieces |
| 21:43.27 | Simca | seems like each mission has a hidden internal difficulty level |
| 21:43.58 | nevcairiel | They start with different base chances if that's what you mean |
| 21:44.10 | Simca | I just looked at two level 100 exhausting, non-rare, 3-follower, 8-hour, combat missions with 0% base chances |
| 21:44.21 | Simca | added a follower who is also 100 with no relevant traits to each |
| 21:44.29 | Simca | one came out to 8% success, the other to 11% |
| 21:44.34 | Semlar | Neffi: i'm going to be honest, i would run them over |
| 21:44.46 | nevcairiel | All came out at 100% when I cancel all their things though |
| 21:44.51 | Neffi | remind me never to do that to you, Semlar |
| 21:45.03 | Semlar | you don't fuck with a car |
| 21:45.15 | Simca | yes, but if the math isn't consistent with the visible data when below 100%, we can't make calculations |
| 21:45.15 | Neffi | why not? what are they gonna do, run me o---- oh |
| 21:45.21 | nevcairiel | Also, didn't they scrap the exhausting concept? |
| 21:45.25 | Simca | we'd have to calculate difficulty factors for every single mission |
| 21:45.46 | Semlar | to be fair i'd do it slowly |
| 21:46.10 | Semlar | that should give them ample opportunity to decide whether or not to move |
| 21:46.12 | Simca | yeah they did, nevcairiel, but it was a super last minute thing, so all the API/UI elements for it are still there |
| 21:46.28 | Simca | the missions still show their duration in orange if it was 'exhausting' |
| 21:46.36 | Simca | it just has no consequences |
| 21:46.37 | nevcairiel | So that's why |
| 21:46.42 | Neffi | ok have some more terrific examples of people fucking with other people that don't involve cars http://imgur.com/gallery/cH8Nn |
| 21:49.29 | Simca | oh, wait, there is a difference |
| 21:49.37 | Simca | one only has 2 mechanics to counter |
| 21:49.48 | Simca | haha so many variables |
| 21:50.02 | nevcairiel | Yeah its crazy |
| 21:50.21 | nevcairiel | Not sure why you want to calculate anyway |
| 21:50.45 | Simca | could be faster than the API function |
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| 21:53.03 | nevcairiel | And a possible maintenance nightmare |
| 21:53.46 | Simca | at least the level differential is simple enough. if the follower level is 1 lower than the mission, their contribution is multiplied by 2/3rds. if it is 2 levels lower, their contribution is multiplied by 1/3rd. if it is 3 or more levels lower, it is multiplied by 0. |
| 21:55.15 | foxlit | http://www.townlong-yak.com/opie/release/rose5 |
| 21:57.16 | Thunder_Child | Somehow I broke the default validation tooltips in chrome on my webpage and I can't figure out how to diagnose it. |
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| 21:58.04 | Thunder_Child | Anyone have an idea or know how to tap into them? |
| 21:58.23 | foxlit | item levels have to count for something, Simca. |
| 21:58.39 | Simca | actually, as far as I can tell, they don't. |
| 21:59.37 | Simca | if your follower's ilvl is 9000 and the mission requires 615, it will have their normal contribution, same as if it was 616 |
| 21:59.48 | Simca | if it is 614, the mission gets nothing from that follower |
| 21:59.50 | Simca | it's pure gating |
| 22:01.57 | nevcairiel | Which is why I'm saving half a bank full of item upgrades before I push my first over 615 |
| 22:02.42 | nevcairiel | Don't need missions I cannot run |
| 22:04.11 | foxlit | maybe they'll hotfix the mission difficulty curve before that. |
| 22:05.15 | nevcairiel | I hope the hotfix for more leveling missions comes up soon though |
| 22:05.30 | nevcairiel | Leveling new inn followers is such a drag |
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| 22:08.33 | Semlar | GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE does not fire after i call GuildRoster() for the first time after a reload |
| 22:09.17 | Semlar | should i do something other than call it twice? |
| 22:10.41 | Semlar | maybe it won't fire more than once within ten seconds of a reload if it fires earlier |
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| 22:57.13 | foxlit | gr, GetInProgressMissions doesn't provide an accurate time-to-completion |
| 23:13.44 | fewyn | Weâre adding an award of 50 Garrison Resources for completing the first Random Warlords of Draenor Heroic Dungeon of the day. |
| 23:13.49 | fewyn | that's nice |
| 23:13.53 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15355105387 |
| 23:14.20 | Ivnedar | do I need to do something before I can start earning conquest points? or is that disabled til a season starts? |
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| 23:18.52 | nevcairiel | disabled until season |
| 23:23.58 | Ivnedar | probably shouldn't have done all those quests that award conquest points then :) |
| 23:24.01 | Ivnedar | oh well |
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| 23:35.55 | znf | Simca, lol, ok |
| 23:36.06 | znf | Simca, if you click too fast, you don't get the loot! :D |
| 23:47.27 | znf | or, I may have spoken too soon, it seems that the item is in my bags |
| 23:51.55 | znf | (never got a loot prompt for it, though) |
