| 00:08.13 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15270807748 |
| 00:13.36 | Demos | wow new hardware |
| 00:13.43 | Demos | I wonder how hammered they actually are |
| 00:13.47 | Demos | the servers that is |
| 00:14.03 | Cidan | I'd be curious to see their infra setup |
| 00:14.38 | Cidan | i wonder if they use highly concurrent systems for their session handling |
| 00:14.39 | fewyn | if you watch the lfg movie Cidan you can see it |
| 00:14.46 | Cidan | ie erlang |
| 00:14.48 | fewyn | or at least what the datacenter looks like |
| 00:17.25 | MiRai | they gave a glimpse of their NOC and datacenter in that LFG documentary |
| 00:17.26 | Amarande | fewyn: yeah there's allegations of DDoS, too, I heard |
| 00:17.50 | MiRai | sorry... just repeating what fewyn said ;) |
| 00:19.44 | Cidan | yeah, but mostly I'm wondering about their load balancing strats and what kind of hardware they use |
| 00:20.19 | Fisker | I was having the sweetest dream Unkle |
| 00:20.52 | Amarande | Fisker: That you were able to log on before midnight? :) |
| 00:20.59 | Amarande | that's something of a dream right now, as I understand heh |
| 00:21.13 | Fisker | No no |
| 00:21.17 | Cidan | oh shit, I just realized, that's why I was able to play last night |
| 00:21.34 | Cidan | because at 9 PST, it's midnight EST |
| 00:21.36 | Cidan | so traffic lets up |
| 00:21.39 | Cidan | ha |
| 00:21.43 | Fisker | I was using my new found superpowers to murder somebody using a rock |
| 00:21.48 | Xuerian | Well, that and there was a login crash that punted a bunch of semi-afk people out of the way |
| 00:21.54 | Cidan | that too |
| 00:22.04 | Amarande | Bah, is there ANYTHING gaming-wise where East Coast folks have it better than Californians? :P |
| 00:22.12 | Cidan | pretty much no |
| 00:22.16 | Cidan | sorry |
| 00:22.26 | Ivnedar | My estimated time to get through the queue should let me login 15 minutes before the next 6 hour downtime :) |
| 00:22.45 | Amarande | yeah, I'm feeling good that I chose FFXIV instead of getting WoD at launch, heh |
| 00:22.49 | Xuerian | Amarande: We don't fall into the ocean when the big one hits? (Not counting florida or long island) |
| 00:23.09 | Cidan | how is FFXIV these days? |
| 00:23.14 | Cidan | I stopped during 2.1 |
| 00:23.18 | Cidan | I kinda wanna try again |
| 00:23.29 | Demos | it is good |
| 00:23.33 | Demos | my room mate plays it |
| 00:23.42 | Demos | bit expansion is on the way |
| 00:23.45 | Demos | regular content drops |
| 00:23.47 | Demos | healthy |
| 00:23.55 | Cidan | how's theif? |
| 00:24.00 | Demos | I have not played it |
| 00:24.13 | Demos | I left before it came out |
| 00:24.14 | Cidan | I left mostly because combat feels slow and mechanical |
| 00:24.24 | Demos | yeah I had that problem as well |
| 00:24.45 | Demos | a friend described it as "like Final Fantasy XII but without all the things I liked" |
| 00:25.01 | Cidan | that's more or less right |
| 00:25.22 | Cidan | I tried both caster and melee, and it always felt like I was waiting for my next action |
| 00:26.04 | Amarande | Xuerian: actually, the Pacific Ocean is *shrinking* |
| 00:26.17 | Amarande | in the far future, California's not going to fall off into the Pacific, it's going to hit China |
| 00:26.29 | Xuerian | Same thing |
| 00:27.08 | Amarande | Demos: hah, FFXII was the one I didn't care for, because it felt like playing an MMO all alone with nobody around to interact with |
| 00:27.11 | Amarande | FFXIV is win and awesome |
| 00:27.31 | Amarande | I start to think Square is the firm of the future when it comes to MMOdom |
| 00:27.32 | Cidan | if they would speed up combat actions by about 1.5x or maybe 2x |
| 00:27.37 | Cidan | I would play the shit out of FFXIV |
| 00:27.51 | Cidan | like just the time between actions, auto attacks, cool downs, 2x |
| 00:27.55 | Cidan | make it a bit faster |
| 00:27.58 | Demos | yeah the XII world was better than XIV as were the characters and the story |
| 00:28.04 | Amarande | Cidan: heh, vanilla WoW was slow too, if memory serves |
| 00:28.11 | Amarande | haste wasn't a thing till BC, except for lust? |
| 00:28.27 | Demos | I bet it gets faster toward later levels |
| 00:28.37 | g0urra | in XIV? No |
| 00:28.39 | Amarande | at least I *think* haste didn't show up on WoW gear at all till BC raiding |
| 00:28.47 | Cidan | but it had differing cooldowns that always kept you doing somehting |
| 00:28.55 | Cidan | in XIV, you hit, wait, hit, wait |
| 00:29.12 | Amarande | hm, haven't seen that be a problem |
| 00:29.19 | Ivnedar | that was good for playing in oceanic region :) |
| 00:29.20 | Amarande | but then, I'm playing Arcanist |
| 00:29.25 | Ivnedar | soaked up the latency so it wasn't noticable |
| 00:29.25 | Cidan | I think it's personal preference |
| 00:29.59 | Amarande | also, in MoP especially I began to find myself feeling WoW was becoming *too* slanted towards the fast action game side of things |
| 00:30.19 | Cidan | That's funny, I prefer faster |
| 00:30.24 | Mr_Rabies | i really don't feel that that's possible |
| 00:30.38 | Amarande | maybe because I was a mage, and the lack of survivability on mages means that you barely get any room for error |
| 00:30.48 | Amarande | I seem to recall reading mages have been made even *more* squishy for WoD, too :( |
| 00:30.55 | Mr_Rabies | everyone has |
| 00:31.03 | Xuerian | You can make it more lively and interactive without making it severely punishing. |
| 00:31.23 | Semlar | squishy? |
| 00:31.26 | Mr_Rabies | mages lost almost all if not nearly all their self healing but so did most people |
| 00:31.30 | Mr_Rabies | the thing is |
| 00:31.33 | Amarande | I'm sorry, but http://animalrescuetracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/playful-kitten-6683.jpg isn't my idea of a favourite MMO character LOL |
| 00:31.35 | Mr_Rabies | mages never really needed self healing |
| 00:31.47 | Mr_Rabies | you can control a fight like no one else as a mage |
| 00:31.48 | Semlar | make a warlock |
| 00:32.20 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: MoP dailies made the limited self healing hurt pretty bad |
| 00:32.41 | Semlar | hunters are the squishiest class i've played |
| 00:32.52 | Amarande | especially with all the patrolling mobs, it was a regular occurrence to have to chain fight mobs (not good and even more not good now, since apparently the intended mechanic for patching up between fights as mage is "Eat." LOL) |
| 00:33.15 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think i've died to mob damage to a nonelite in the overworld in a few expansions while i was there on any class to date |
| 00:33.18 | Mr_Rabies | wow |
| 00:33.20 | Mr_Rabies | that sentence |
| 00:33.23 | Mr_Rabies | indecipherable |
| 00:33.25 | Mr_Rabies | i apologize |
| 00:33.32 | Amarande | and the millions-of-HP daily capstone bosses were really painful, because you could either slow DPS too much and die of attrition trying to avoid everything, or you got hit by too much everything and died that way :P |
| 00:33.49 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: that was the other thing about MoP dailies |
| 00:34.07 | Amarande | an awful high prevalence of "semi-elite" mobs |
| 00:34.08 | Mr_Rabies | the only thing i've died to while doing dailies on any class so far has been fall damage |
| 00:34.13 | Mr_Rabies | from getting booted off the cliff |
| 00:34.18 | Mr_Rabies | in valley |
| 00:34.26 | Demos | I really liked the FFXIV FATEs |
| 00:34.28 | Amarande | like, not quite elite, but still significantly stronger than a regular mob. what LOTRO would call Signature or SW:TOR would call a Strong |
| 00:34.37 | Demos | since they were good rewards for capped players |
| 00:34.38 | Semlar | can mages still just evocate to get all their health back? |
| 00:34.40 | Amarande | Demos: and yes, FATEs are win and awesome :) |
| 00:34.45 | Amarande | FATEs just are good rewards in general |
| 00:34.46 | Demos | people would do them, and it was awesome |
| 00:34.51 | Mr_Rabies | don't think evo is as available, Semlar |
| 00:34.56 | Demos | and there are a MASSIVE number of dungeons in XIV |
| 00:35.00 | Demos | but the quests are not great |
| 00:35.30 | Cidan | I absolutely love XIV's over all system and feel, crafting, jobs, all of it is incredible. |
| 00:35.35 | Cidan | I just can't get over slow combat. |
| 00:35.39 | Amarande | hah, getting thrown off that cliff by the goats was hilarious |
| 00:35.45 | Cidan | So, fucking, boring. |
| 00:35.45 | Demos | yeah |
| 00:35.53 | Demos | and I want to at least do WoW's quests |
| 00:35.54 | Amarande | happened to me on the mage a time or two. and of course I'd pop slow fall |
| 00:36.02 | Demos | I may leave after a few months of WoD |
| 00:36.04 | Amarande | I'd literally be like, half way across the zone or more by the time I would land |
| 00:36.19 | Amarande | at least once had to pop slow fall twice before I landed, too :) |
| 00:37.09 | Cidan | I don't think I'll leave WoD |
| 00:37.14 | Cidan | will likely play until it's over |
| 00:37.18 | Amarande | I'm not sure I'll start WoD |
| 00:37.26 | Amarande | maybe if I get it as a gift, or it goes on a deep discount sale somewhere |
| 00:37.36 | Amarande | but by then Heavensward will probably be out |
| 00:37.41 | Mr_Rabies | it's really really good so far |
| 00:37.43 | Mr_Rabies | i'm loving it |
| 00:37.50 | Cidan | same, best since vanilla tbh |
| 00:38.07 | Mr_Rabies | i love MoP but early MoP was kind of a letdown |
| 00:38.08 | Cidan | well WotLK |
| 00:38.08 | Cidan | because I really fucking loved WotLK |
| 00:38.09 | Mr_Rabies | all those dailies |
| 00:38.11 | Mr_Rabies | were no fun |
| 00:38.24 | Cidan | MoP made me quit out right |
| 00:38.31 | Cidan | like just the announcement of it |
| 00:38.32 | Mr_Rabies | it felt very much like |
| 00:38.48 | Mr_Rabies | "welp you're 90, now it's time to play constantly if you don't want to let down your raid group" |
| 00:38.56 | Amarande | And apparently if I want to get into real raiding in FFXIV I basically have to somehow snag my way into the stream of things when some or other bit of content is new, or it's going to get increasingly hair-pulling heh |
| 00:38.57 | Mr_Rabies | i'm glad they've addressed that in WoD |
| 00:39.10 | Amarande | you know, one thread about raid frustration does make me wonder something in particular about MMO game design |
| 00:39.20 | Mr_Rabies | why's that, Cidan? |
| 00:39.35 | Amarande | specifically ... why *is* the "team jumprope" style of battle tuning so prevalent in MMOs, anyway? |
| 00:39.50 | Mr_Rabies | team jumprope? |
| 00:40.04 | Cidan | mostly because of blizzard taking a joke race, and turning it into something real |
| 00:40.06 | Amarande | Mr_Rabies: as in everyone has to get everything just right or the whole team fails |
| 00:40.06 | Cidan | actually sorry |
| 00:40.11 | Cidan | I quit when I played the first instance |
| 00:40.23 | Cidan | and the boss said "me gonna ook you in the ooker" |
| 00:40.29 | Cidan | I actually alt-f4'd out of the instance |
| 00:40.35 | Amarande | i.e., instead of the bigger team providing an advantage, it actually plays into making raid fights harder, because of said requirement for complete group perfection |
| 00:40.44 | Mr_Rabies | that's a pretty bad reason to stop, the pandaren were made from a joke race into a great storyline |
| 00:41.01 | Mr_Rabies | like, they're so far out of of joke territory at this point |
| 00:41.08 | Cidan | it was a pretty bad story line, to me, because that's my personal preference |
| 00:41.17 | Cidan | I didn't really like it. |
| 00:41.26 | Mr_Rabies | it's great, it's a shame you missed it |
| 00:41.28 | Cidan | What's interesting about WoD is that either way, we lose, you know? |
| 00:41.29 | Amarande | compare on the other hand, say, most pre-MMO RPGs that had a party, additional party members were always an advantage, and it was often considered somewhat epic to just barely win that boss battle with two party members left standing and having 3 HP apiece :) |
| 00:41.53 | Cidan | Oh don't get me wrong, in the last 2-3 weeks, I did every MoP raid, and every instance, start to finish |
| 00:42.00 | Cidan | because I wanted to gear up |
| 00:42.06 | Cidan | even got my garry weapon |
| 00:42.20 | Mr_Rabies | you didn't really get the story though |
| 00:42.31 | Amarande | in MMOs, it's like a team jumping rope, on the other hand, additional party members if anything are just additional places, mechanically speaking, where you can fail as a group LOL |
| 00:42.35 | Mr_Rabies | absolutely no way to get all of MoP's story in that timeline, unfortunately unless you played like 20 hours a day |
| 00:42.37 | Cidan | no, because I didn't do the zone quests, you're 100% right |
| 00:42.42 | Amarande | I guess I wonder what the reasoning behind such a design decision is. |
| 00:43.06 | Mr_Rabies | actually, since the split to 10 and 25 |
| 00:43.12 | Mr_Rabies | other than just...keeping 25 active players |
| 00:43.18 | Mr_Rabies | 25 man has been easier for -most- fights |
| 00:43.18 | Cidan | Amarande, Lunar: Eternal Blue comes to mind -- the Sega CD version |
| 00:43.43 | Mr_Rabies | like 25 man SoO was mostly a cakewalk compared to 10 man |
| 00:44.39 | Mr_Rabies | the pandaren storyline was really good and it's too bad that some kind of weird hangup made you miss it Cidan |
| 00:44.50 | Cidan | Such is life, you know? |
| 00:45.00 | Cidan | It wasn't really that enticing to me. |
| 00:45.02 | Mr_Rabies | it was a really great anti-war story with a bunch of stories about family, honor, tradition, etc wrapped up in it |
| 00:45.58 | Amarande | the thread, apparently, began when someone got frustrated because they're trying to get into Coil of Bahamut and keep finding people are too established to let them get a chance to get the necessary experience |
| 00:46.16 | Cidan | WoW went through that |
| 00:46.16 | Mr_Rabies | like, we came to their land and RUINED it with war, but still, we killed an old god that would have totally destroyed the land if given enough time |
| 00:46.34 | Mr_Rabies | TBC was basically that |
| 00:46.36 | Mr_Rabies | the whole thing |
| 00:46.42 | Mr_Rabies | that's why i stopped playing and came back late into wrath |
| 00:46.44 | Mr_Rabies | right before cata |
| 00:46.46 | Amarande | (and that's *despite* the fact that FFXIV gives the same gear levels through both dungeonfinder and serious-raid paths, which means it's ONLY a matter of content there ... not like WoW where you HAD to do the top raid content to have the gear people wanted you to have for it) |
| 00:46.50 | foxlit | the biggest difference between wod and mop levelling content? |
| 00:46.54 | Mr_Rabies | well, about 2 months prior |
| 00:46.56 | foxlit | wod has more dings per hour. |
| 00:47.09 | Amarande | foxlit: that's because WoD also has twice as many dings |
| 00:47.11 | Fisker | Hey foxlit |
| 00:47.23 | Cidan | HEY EVERYONE IT'S foxlit LET'S ALL PING HIM |
| 00:47.26 | Amarande | and it was always intended that the 5 levels of Cata and MoP were each supposed to be equivalent to 10 in BC/Wrath/WoD |
| 00:47.31 | Mr_Rabies | maybe if you focus on questing, i'm constantly hopping back to my garrison because it's so fun to interact with |
| 00:47.36 | Fisker | I had like 3600 dings an hour |
| 00:47.41 | Fisker | Now I can't sleep |
| 00:47.50 | foxlit | "i'm constantly hopping back to my garrison " << not in the eu, eh. |
| 00:47.51 | Cidan | that's a ding a second |
| 00:48.04 | Mr_Rabies | counter it with 3600 don...nevermind NEVERMIND JOKE OVER EVERYONE GO HOME |
| 00:49.06 | foxlit | the cata 5 levels matched the zones |
| 00:49.47 | Amarande | I think it's good they went back to 10 though, it avoids some awkward corners the 5 level expansions produced |
| 00:49.55 | Amarande | like content that's trivial twice over being green, sometimes |
| 00:50.24 | Amarande | (worse, players from two expansions ago could be green still ... so you really could get honor for kicking a baby) |
| 00:52.59 | foxlit | MoP zone-level pacing was weird. Things were kind of okay through the Valley, and then you figured out that the Wilds were actually the same zone in disguise (but hey, Stoneplow, awesome). |
| 00:53.43 | foxlit | Somehow Kun-Lai always annoys me -- too many small hub-based storylines that don't really go places? |
| 00:54.14 | Mr_Rabies | i skipped townlong and krasarang entirely just about |
| 00:54.25 | Mr_Rabies | got to 90 without really setting foot in either |
| 00:55.17 | foxlit | couldn't really do that at release without repeatedly bashing your head against some grind. |
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| 00:55.20 | Demos | MoP leveling was great up until 89-90 |
| 00:55.27 | Demos | that was a death march |
| 00:55.48 | Amarande | eh, was it? |
| 00:56.04 | Amarande | I actually hit 90 in Dread Wastes, and hadn't touched Townlong Steppes at all |
| 00:56.32 | Amarande | I got into the habit of doing the available dailies each day of leveling after unlocking them |
| 00:56.46 | Amarande | so I was still in DW by the time I hit 90 ... actually, I'm not even sure I quested Krasarang Wilds before 90 either |
| 00:59.01 | Amarande | and yeah, Kun-Lai always seemed a little chaotic |
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| 01:04.44 | Mr_Rabies | i loved kun'lai myself but it is a bit detached |
| 01:04.54 | Mr_Rabies | the mulan quest was something else, lol |
| 01:05.21 | Mr_Rabies | i dunno, foxlit, i leveled at release, but i was maybe 2 days behind the curve |
| 01:05.58 | Mr_Rabies | was at a convention during launch of MoP |
| 01:06.17 | Mr_Rabies | i'm again a bit behind the curve on my realm so i'm still running into a lot of players but not really hitting the game's limits so much |
| 01:06.22 | Mr_Rabies | quite the opposite in some cases |
| 01:06.32 | Mr_Rabies | i keep getting swarmed by instantly respawning mobs |
| 01:06.53 | Mr_Rabies | but thankfully my gear is so overpowering that i can just aoe down everything |
| 01:07.12 | Amarande | yeah, that was another big problem with being mage when I was playing |
| 01:07.40 | Amarande | there were an awful lot of disasters resulting from getting a completely unknowable add, because of respawn timers that you have no idea about because so many people were doing the same dailies |
| 01:07.50 | Amarande | *and* of course, back then, you didn't HAVE gear that was that overpowering, either |
| 01:08.33 | Amarande | Especially since you basically had to max your reps in order to even get past blues with just a few exceptions |
| 01:09.46 | Amarande | small handful of epics from quests, or if you're lucky enough to actually get things other than bags of gold from Sha, or from LFR (which you need to have all your heroic blues for to just squeak by the requirement, if you don't have any epics yet) |
| 01:12.27 | Mr_Rabies | i never really felt challenged by dailies personally, and that was part of the problem |
| 01:12.44 | Mr_Rabies | it was just wasting time doing mundane stuff with no challenge to me |
| 01:13.19 | Mr_Rabies | i don't mind doing trivial questing content in raid gear because at least there's a story there |
| 01:13.36 | Mr_Rabies | but dailies very rarely had a story, they were literally just there to gate content and had no challenge |
| 01:13.45 | Amarande | I got swamped by dailies ultimately, which was unfortunate because you basically needed to be revered (or was it even exalted?) in just about everything to get your valor gear |
| 01:18.23 | znf | Where the hell is the Grimrail Depot entrance? |
| 01:38.22 | nebula169 | gorgrond? in the north part |
| 01:39.52 | znf | yeah, managed to find it |
| 01:40.00 | znf | now if we can actually manage to have the server spawn an instance for us |
| 02:15.47 | Ivnedar | I wonder if there are more people in queue than playing wow at the moment |
| 02:34.28 | Shirik | I wonder what percentage of people logged into wow are actually playing wow at any given moment |
| 02:34.37 | Ivnedar | <50% for sure |
| 02:34.52 | Ivnedar | 2003 minutes remaining in queue |
| 02:35.04 | Ivnedar | that's a while |
| 02:35.05 | Shirik | lol |
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| 02:46.06 | Primer | Does anyone know how the output perk in Gorgrond is supposed to work? |
| 02:46.37 | Primer | I've looked for guide, but information is sparse |
| 02:46.44 | Semlar | the what now |
| 02:47.00 | Semlar | the thing that's not the shredder? |
| 02:47.11 | Primer | yes |
| 02:47.14 | Primer | I pvp |
| 02:47.22 | Primer | So it seemed it was a pve vs. pvp choice |
| 02:47.50 | Semlar | i thought it was just something that gave you a damage boost based on how many things you killed while it was active or something |
| 02:47.54 | kd3 | nah, they're both largely for pve. the arena gets you a follower for about a minute. kill as many mobs as possible with the follower out and yo'll get a bonus |
| 02:48.02 | kd3 | the arena at your garrison is for pvp |
| 02:48.22 | Primer | yeah well, I keep looking for said follower and buff |
| 02:48.24 | Primer | so far nothing |
| 02:48.38 | Primer | Which has me wondering if I have to do something to make it happen |
| 02:48.40 | kd3 | it's your garrison ability, if you dragged the last one to your hotbar, it's in the same spot |
| 02:48.41 | Semlar | don't you have to use a button? |
| 02:48.49 | Semlar | it's a skill, right |
| 02:49.12 | Amarande | personal pvp arena? |
| 02:49.29 | Semlar | it's not the one i picked so i'm not sure what it does |
| 02:49.31 | Amarande | hm, what would I do with a personal pvp arena ... |
| 02:49.45 | Semlar | but they had pretty explicit explanations when you went to pick one |
| 02:49.52 | Primer | garrison ability... |
| 02:49.57 | Amarande | hey, can we gather up two tributes from each of twelve selected servers and bring them into the garrison arena, then use the garrison controls to change the battle circumstances as we like to see them struggle and all that? :) |
| 02:50.05 | Amarande | or is it not quite that advanced :D |
| 02:50.18 | Semlar | and i think the one you picked decided whether you could shred herbs or break boulders around the zone |
| 02:50.22 | Primer | so yeah, I have no idea where this is |
| 02:50.33 | Primer | I've not had to drag any "garrison abilities" to any bars |
| 02:50.48 | Amarande | shred herbs sounds like the no-brainer there |
| 02:50.53 | kd3 | you don't remember getting "Call to arms" shortly after building your barracks? |
| 02:50.56 | Amarande | herbs makes alchemy, alchemy makes consumables, consumables are good |
| 02:51.02 | Semlar | uhh do you have an addon that's hiding your garrison button? |
| 02:51.13 | kd3 | also, ^ |
| 02:51.18 | Amarande | just like in FFXIV, I figured cooking would be the best crafting prof to get an early start on |
| 02:51.40 | Primer | I have a garrison button attached to my minimap |
| 02:51.46 | kd3 | that's not it |
| 02:51.50 | Primer | it just shows what my plots are doing, companions, etc. |
| 02:51.55 | Amarande | probably go with alchemist next in that regard, and leave the gear crafting stuff for much later |
| 02:52.11 | Semlar | i have no idea what the other ability was called soo |
| 02:52.37 | kd3 | if you didn't drag it to your hotbar and your barmod isn't hiding it, it's in the center of your screen about 2/3 of the way down |
| 02:52.54 | Semlar | champion's honor? |
| 02:53.01 | Primer | I'm using Dominos |
| 02:53.10 | Primer | the config shows no other bars I didn't have before |
| 02:53.22 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:53.35 | Semlar | see if that does anything |
| 02:53.38 | Primer | reloading without Dominos |
| 02:53.42 | Primer | I'll try that if I don't see it |
| 02:54.06 | Primer | nothing |
| 02:54.16 | Semlar | are you sure you picked one |
| 02:54.25 | Primer | The sparring arena is present |
| 02:56.17 | kd3 | with it not on your bar, it should look like this: http://imgur.com/WSdFpT5 |
| 02:56.30 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.54 | Primer | I'll just make a macro for that |
| 02:57.04 | Primer | But yeah, I've never seen such a thing |
| 02:58.49 | kd3 | check your dom config |
| 02:58.53 | Mr_Rabies | some of this garrison stuff is a bit uh |
| 02:58.54 | Mr_Rabies | vague |
| 02:59.24 | Mr_Rabies | i'm spending time on third party sites trying to figure out which outpost to build in gorgrond and it's still not really apparent what exactly the pros/cons of each are |
| 02:59.44 | Mr_Rabies | other than i can reverse each building for 10k gold(!) each |
| 02:59.47 | kd3 | in gorgrond? it just changes which half of the zone you do |
| 02:59.52 | kd3 | http://wowpedia.org/grgquest |
| 03:00.27 | Mr_Rabies | it really should be better at telling you that in the game, hell even info sites aren't super great at telling you that exactly |
| 03:00.44 | Mr_Rabies | just that it "changes the questline" |
| 03:00.54 | Mr_Rabies | this is good info though |
| 03:01.00 | Mr_Rabies | better than anything i could find elsewhere |
| 03:01.49 | Mr_Rabies | just gonna pick one, i guess, though, it's too much info to go through |
| 03:01.57 | Mr_Rabies | maybe 10k gold will be cheap enough at 100 |
| 03:02.31 | Primer | kd3: I disabled Dominos and still saw nothing new |
| 03:02.55 | kd3 | are you sure you didn't drag it to a hotbar? |
| 03:03.09 | Primer | that would have required ever having seen it in the first place |
| 03:05.20 | Mr_Rabies | look for something called Garrison Ability on your action bars |
| 03:05.27 | Mr_Rabies | or Champion's Honor, etc |
| 03:05.33 | Mr_Rabies | it changes based on zone |
| 03:06.02 | Mr_Rabies | and if you haven't built an outpost in zones other than your garrison zone, it just says "Garrison Ability" and does nothing |
| 03:07.56 | Primer | I have a button that reads "call to arms" |
| 03:08.18 | Primer | "Call upon the forces of your garrison to assist you" |
| 03:08.27 | kd3 | then you're in frostfire/smv |
| 03:08.57 | Mr_Rabies | that's it |
| 03:09.07 | Mr_Rabies | if you drag it off your bars it'll become like an ExtraActionButton |
| 03:09.40 | Primer | tries |
| 03:09.51 | Primer | yup, there it is |
| 03:09.53 | Primer | thanks |
| 03:10.11 | Primer | It's not controlled by Dominos though |
| 03:12.31 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15270807748 |
| 03:12.36 | fewyn | that's pretty interesting |
| 03:12.43 | fewyn | they are implementing phasing tech on all of draenor |
| 03:15.10 | Thunder_Child | In theory that means they could do an eve-style single server per region. |
| 03:17.08 | fewyn | yeah |
| 03:17.12 | fewyn | in theory |
| 03:20.33 | Fisker | My eyes are open |
| 03:21.47 | Fisker | Need somebody to unopen them |
| 03:23.50 | Thunder_Child | Sorry Fisker, can't go back in time....yet. |
| 03:24.19 | Fisker | You can unopen them in the present |
| 03:24.30 | Thunder_Child | No, but I could close them. |
| 03:24.47 | Fisker | Wanna fight about it? |
| 03:24.57 | Thunder_Child | Nuuuuup. |
| 03:25.02 | Fisker | Oh |
| 03:25.18 | Fisker | Good idea |
| 03:25.28 | Fisker | Seems like a silly subject to fight over |
| 03:26.37 | Fisker | Close my eyes though |
| 03:31.18 | Fisker | Aw |
| 03:32.34 | Ivnedar | blizzard need to make an addon environment for the queue |
| 03:32.51 | phelps | Ivnedar, was thinking that too |
| 03:32.58 | Ivnedar | add in a social lobby type thing |
| 03:33.01 | Ivnedar | some games |
| 03:33.52 | Ivnedar | if that's where most of their customers are, surely that's where they should be focussing their efforts, not in making more content for wow |
| 03:34.00 | Fisker | You could back in the day |
| 03:35.12 | Ivnedar | could improve the time estimate so it's not flapping between 2000 minutes and 8 minutes |
| 03:36.20 | Fisker | Queue system based on windows file copy system |
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| 03:42.58 | Thunder_Child | You make it sound like people are in queue all the time. It's fairly rare. |
| 03:44.19 | Fisker | I was in queue at blizzcon |
| 03:44.39 | Fisker | I wish there was some kind of social lobby there |
| 03:44.53 | Thunder_Child | Blizzcon is one big social lobby. |
| 03:45.10 | Fisker | Yeah but it was a queue for blizzcon itself |
| 03:45.26 | Thunder_Child | So talk to the people around you? |
| 03:45.36 | Fisker | Huh? |
| 03:45.40 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 03:46.11 | Kemayo | They should give us hearthstone-board-y things to click on while in the queue, at least. |
| 03:50.46 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: you're asking a gathering of introverts to talk to people they don't know |
| 03:51.12 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: They do it in wow. |
| 03:51.25 | Fisker | I do? |
| 03:51.51 | Thunder_Child | You don't interact with anyone you do not know from outside of the game? |
| 03:52.51 | Fisker | Nope? |
| 03:53.43 | Thunder_Child | I call BS on that. |
| 03:54.29 | Demos | Oo Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon is on sale |
| 04:04.46 | Ivnedar | Torhal: Did you work out how to pull back what race a digsite blob is for? |
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| 04:16.07 | Cidan | hello login queue |
| 04:17.01 | Iriel | Hello wildly fluctuating Estimated time |
| 04:17.14 | Cidan | that too |
| 04:19.53 | znf | Hello... |
| 04:19.57 | znf | oh, wait, maintenance |
| 04:22.07 | nevcairiel | you just woke up to the maint =p |
| 04:22.17 | Iriel | 153 mins, new high |
| 04:23.34 | ccox | wow, seeing login queues on realms that have never had one before... |
| 04:25.45 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/16561637/ dem hotfixes |
| 04:29.19 | dolby | is about ready to buy a queue fastpass |
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| 07:26.24 | jleclanche | inbox users: when you mark an item as done, where does it go on the usual gmail interface? |
| 07:26.55 | jleclanche | i guess it seems it just gets archived |
| 07:26.59 | jleclanche | that is extremely annoying ... |
| 07:32.03 | nevcairiel | Inbox is extre |
| 07:32.07 | plaw | Iriel: you want to see a reasonable time for queue pop? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2ZYj8UCAAAbjU5.png |
| 07:32.17 | nevcairiel | Extremely annoying |
| 07:33.36 | plaw | pity Blizz can't take my spot in the queue and email me when I actually do get under 30 mins to go, like call centres that record number and call back when you pop |
| 07:35.35 | karl_w_w | ohh yeah |
| 07:35.48 | karl_w_w | my login queue position is 5934 |
| 07:37.51 | plaw | karl_w_w: I thought I'd try to get in to Cael early. Was on at 6AM this morning no problems. Queue of 2k+ since about 8AM. |
| 07:38.13 | plaw | which'd suggest prime playing time is probably around 4AM |
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| 07:44.03 | plaw | AND furbolgs still can't dance |
| 07:47.48 | Arrowmaster | NOOOO!!! |
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| 07:55.02 | karl_w_w | so im advancing at a rate of 1000/hr |
| 07:55.07 | karl_w_w | only 5.5 hours to go! |
| 07:55.50 | karl_w_w | of course it slows down more and more because with less people ahead of you there are less dropping out of the queue, but we'll ignore that |
| 08:10.09 | karl_w_w | WoD minigame! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hl2g8IPYOE |
| 08:14.40 | Primer | I need to move this: GarrisonMissionAlertFrame |
| 08:15.05 | Primer | I thought Move Anything could...move anything... |
| 08:18.01 | Primer | ahh there we go |
| 08:19.35 | Semlar | move most things* |
| 08:49.05 | Primer | had to type /move GarrisonMissionAlertFrame |
| 08:49.10 | Primer | and it added it as a custom one |
| 08:49.36 | Cidan | level 93, and I still haven't found a decent 2H weapon. |
| 08:49.39 | Cidan | bleh. |
| 08:51.57 | Mr_Rabies | i juuuust switched to my BOA at 94 |
| 08:57.35 | Mr_Rabies | (i had the mythic warforged staff from immerseus) |
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| 11:11.00 | Semlar | i'm level 98 or something and haven't replaced any of my gear |
| 11:11.25 | Torhal | sends Semlar on a scouting mission. |
| 11:11.38 | Semlar | scout here! |
| 11:12.24 | Semlar | alright i'm tired of explaining to people how to 1. install an addon and 2. edit a text file |
| 11:12.38 | Semlar | i should really make a ui for this addon |
| 11:13.07 | Torhal | You released something? |
| 11:13.25 | Semlar | i had a momentary lapse of judgment |
| 11:14.02 | Dagmar | Semlar: It'll be hard to beat 553's fully gemmed and enchanted but by level 100 at least half of them should be gone |
| 11:14.03 | Torhal | Truly frightening. |
| 11:14.33 | Semlar | all of my gear is either mythic or mythic warforged |
| 11:14.56 | Semlar | except my weapon which is the boa and i was already using that to raid with |
| 11:15.01 | Dagmar | You're also missing out on the new "just look at the item level" way of evaluating |
| 11:15.29 | Dagmar | Thank god for that |
| 11:15.42 | Semlar | actually i'm not sure how much stats are worth compared to my set bonuses |
| 11:15.59 | Semlar | i'm guessing a level 600 blue is probably better than one of my mythic pieces |
| 11:16.05 | Semlar | but it's hard to tell |
| 11:16.18 | Dagmar | For the new stuff, color doesn't matter much |
| 11:16.23 | Dagmar | ...at least up until 100. |
| 11:16.25 | Mr_Rabies | i personally won't use anything without a config gui, but i don't blame people for not making one |
| 11:16.44 | Dagmar | A blue version of the same green quest reward will just have a higher item level, apparently |
| 11:16.53 | Semlar | yeah well it's a huge pain in the ass to make a ui for something people could spend 30 seconds editing a file to reproduce |
| 11:17.00 | Dagmar | IT makes it _much_ easier to figure out if you should put on those shoes |
| 11:17.26 | Semlar | yeah but all i ever did was look at the item level before anyway |
| 11:17.48 | Dagmar | I chucked a few of my epics just because the new stuff with the same agility has _much_ more stamina on it |
| 11:17.59 | Semlar | it's worse now because of all the different stats that you can't reforge so you have to figure out what's best for you |
| 11:18.13 | Semlar | it should actually be more difficult to compare two items |
| 11:18.20 | Dagmar | Well, thankfully the primary stat just about overrides everything |
| 11:18.33 | Semlar | is that the case now? |
| 11:18.47 | Dagmar | I had like a 609 and a 608 that were close, but the 609 had versatility so fuck that |
| 11:19.03 | Ivnedar | later on you can start rerolling secondary stats can't you? |
| 11:19.11 | Ivnedar | or is that only the crafted gear? |
| 11:19.12 | Dagmar | Yeah there's crafting stuff for that |
| 11:19.27 | Dagmar | I don't think it'll work on quest items, but I could be wrong |
| 11:19.42 | Dagmar | Some of the recipes... Hmm... |
| 11:19.43 | Semlar | i'm going to try and completely avoid my mastery |
| 11:19.59 | Semlar | maybe if i can get my mastery low enough i won't have to bother standing still for it |
| 11:20.00 | Dagmar | Like there's some decent wearable at 98 items in leatherworking, but they use burnished leather |
| 11:20.38 | Dagmar | So... anyone asking for one between here and probably late December is going to be met with "DON'T YOU DARE STAND IN THE WAY OF MY 640 ITEMS!" |
| 11:21.12 | Dagmar | I don't care if 8 burnished leather is a small fraction of 100 burnished leather. |
| 11:21.28 | Dagmar | My 640's are coming FIRST unless I find a way to beat someone up for better gear before then |
| 11:22.08 | Dagmar | ...but tomorrow, I have to knock about 1500 resources out of whatever looks promising. |
| 11:22.22 | Dagmar | If it means hanging bags of kittsns from trees and beating them with cricket bats, so be it. |
| 11:22.35 | Semlar | tries to calm dagmar down |
| 11:22.50 | Dagmar | My garrison *will* be level 3 darn it |
| 11:23.27 | Dagmar | I started taking the higher level areas the moment an NPC mentioned them, so I got to 100 real fast. |
| 11:23.32 | Dagmar | 507 resources. |
| 11:23.36 | Dagmar | *facepalm* |
| 11:24.16 | Dagmar | I should have known there's be a tradeoff somewhere. |
| 11:24.56 | Semlar | do higher level areas offer more experience? |
| 11:25.20 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 11:25.39 | Semlar | i was under the impression quest experience was pretty much entirely based on your level |
| 11:25.52 | Dagmar | Mainly because if you're being completionist about areas, you can be above their expected level by the time you're done with say, Talador |
| 11:26.47 | Semlar | i'm sure i'd be 100 by now if i could have logged in more than twice since the game launched |
| 11:27.07 | Dagmar | It's the Iron Horde's new weapon against adventurers. |
| 11:27.11 | Dagmar | Login queues. |
| 11:27.17 | Semlar | well it's effective |
| 11:27.24 | Dagmar | Probably the most effective thing they could deploy, actually. |
| 11:27.46 | Dagmar | Boss mobs in the wild were being hit by players like water backing up in a pipe |
| 11:27.56 | Dagmar | The longer they lived, the more people came along to add DPS |
| 11:28.28 | Dagmar | The free-for-all reward thing made PvE much less annoying than MoP |
| 11:29.18 | Semlar | before the servers went down i had just picked up a quest that expected me to use an item on some mobs below 35% health |
| 11:29.19 | Dagmar | No waiting around for key mods to respawn... everyone gets credit. So very nice. |
| 11:29.27 | Dagmar | s/nods/mobs/ |
| 11:29.32 | Semlar | i am currently two shotting mobs |
| 11:29.37 | Dagmar | Semlar: Yeah like the moths... |
| 11:29.37 | Semlar | so this is a problem |
| 11:29.51 | Dagmar | I put away my pet and auto-shot while I rapid-fire clicked the item |
| 11:30.06 | Semlar | this is going to be super annoying |
| 11:30.16 | Dagmar | There's not many of those things |
| 11:30.25 | Semlar | i'll probably just let my pet get it low |
| 11:30.27 | Semlar | my pet doesn't do anything |
| 11:30.51 | Dagmar | My gorilladin is murder-tacular |
| 11:31.10 | Dagmar | If I don't barraage the countryside, I'm left with mobs that are dead before I can hit 'em, so I know your pain |
| 11:31.17 | Semlar | i'm marksmanship so practically everything is dead before my pet gets to it |
| 11:31.27 | Dagmar | ...and the high-end zones are just *filled* with hunters |
| 11:31.35 | Semlar | what! why |
| 11:31.45 | Semlar | who would play a hunter!! |
| 11:31.47 | Dagmar | Well, because you can spec to make your pet almost unkillable |
| 11:32.03 | Dagmar | ...and then barrage-murder the everything with misdirection. |
| 11:32.07 | Dagmar | ...at once. |
| 11:32.07 | Fisker | https://plus.google.com/+BrunoOliveira/posts/BnxzJPS8mPB do you get it Shirik ? |
| 11:32.32 | Dagmar | If you thought zerging beartanks were bad, hunters can just _spin around_ with Barrage going. |
| 11:33.26 | Semlar | can? more like almost can't stop themselves |
| 11:33.27 | Dagmar | That intro sequence where you're supposed to kill 100 orcs goes by in an alarmingly short span of time when you can stand in the middle of the arena and tap _everything_ |
| 11:33.40 | Semlar | yeah it's great |
| 11:34.23 | Dagmar | Like, hey there's a lot of mobs running around here. Is this situation possibly going to get out of control? Bestial Wrath, Misdirection, Barrage, and piroette. |
| 11:35.01 | Dagmar | It also seems to trigger both my trinkets pretty quickly, so I can just finish out by spamming multi-shot |
| 11:35.24 | Dagmar | Right click to look all 24 gnoll ears. |
| 11:35.45 | Dagmar | _That's_ why there's a lot of hunters closing in on 100 now |
| 11:36.51 | Dagmar | I forsee pets taking damage again in the future |
| 11:37.14 | Dagmar | The ring in Nagrand, a few of those guys basically didn't ever hurt my pet. |
| 11:37.27 | Dagmar | They were practically a hokey-pokey dance. |
| 11:38.18 | Semlar | between having aspect of the cheetah up 24/7, the dash from disengage and barrage, my hunter can tap everything everywhere before anyone else can get to it |
| 11:38.36 | Dagmar | Yeah I saw some guys doing train-building as pulling |
| 11:38.50 | Dagmar | I had to watch out because I didn't want to steal their tap |
| 11:40.23 | Semlar | o lord, someone has claimed to have been banned for using my addon |
| 11:40.52 | Dagmar | I wonder who came up with podlings tho. Did they mean to actually top kobolds and murlocs at the same time? |
| 11:44.38 | Dagmar | Semlar: I have no idea how they could think your addon might get them banned |
| 11:45.06 | Semlar | apparently the fact that i'm making them go in and edit a lua file to configure it is making them think it's doing something scripty |
| 11:48.36 | Semlar | is there an active ptr? |
| 11:48.53 | Semlar | if i wanted to get on and actually test my addon |
| 11:50.23 | Semlar | hey there is |
| 11:50.27 | Semlar | convenient! |
| 11:52.01 | Semlar | it's great trying to get the game to stream with like 5% of it downloaded |
| 11:52.35 | Maldivia | define "great" |
| 11:53.01 | Semlar | >_> |
| 11:53.23 | Semlar | somewhat slow to load |
| 11:53.29 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 11:53.34 | Semlar | i have no idea where this is installed |
| 11:53.51 | Semlar | can you check the path to your installations from the bnet client |
| 11:54.03 | Maldivia | yes, settings - there's a list of all installed games |
| 11:54.40 | Semlar | on another hard drive apparently |
| 11:55.13 | Semlar | this must be an old install because i don't even remember installing the ptr |
| 11:56.12 | Semlar | created in october of 2012 >_> |
| 11:56.51 | Mr_Rabies | oh hey the ptr IS up what |
| 11:56.56 | Semlar | hell yeah it is |
| 11:57.00 | Mr_Rabies | the live US realms are down for maintenance |
| 11:57.02 | Semlar | i'm gonna develop addons so hard |
| 11:58.56 | Semlar | they should just leave this up all the time for us |
| 12:00.32 | Semlar | steam just sent me 3 emails attempting to reset my password |
| 12:00.41 | Semlar | i wonder if i should be concerned |
| 12:01.18 | Semlar | ironically, i don't think i know my steam password |
| 12:01.34 | Semlar | i haven't logged in in years |
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| 13:31.08 | Jamash | live is down -> play on ptr -> I am an addict |
| 13:31.53 | Jamash | although in some ways the PTR is better than live 'cause I get free 90s |
| 13:34.10 | harl | tbh, i'd rather play tomb raider |
| 13:34.34 | harl | not that i'm dishonest otherwise |
| 13:38.13 | Jamash | so you say |
| 13:38.19 | Jamash | that's just what someone dishonest would say |
| 13:38.24 | Jamash | what are you hiding, harl? |
| 13:38.35 | harl | ;) |
| 13:39.36 | Jamash | I wonder if there's an easy way to get all my macros from live to ptr |
| 13:44.00 | Jamash | this looks like the thing I'm looking for http://www.curse.com/addons/wow/macro-toolkit |
| 13:44.56 | Semlar | isn't there a macro cache in the wtf folder somewhere |
| 13:47.07 | Jamash | yeah, that too |
| 13:48.19 | Jamash | but macro toolkit also does other stuff that seems pretty cool |
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| 14:14.18 | Fisker | morning Ressy |
| 14:22.38 | Ressy | morning |
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| 14:42.00 | Jamash | there's a bug in my debugging code :[ |
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| 15:02.05 | karl_w_w | http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/11/15/Brilliant-anti-feminist-spoof-claims-space-scientist-s-shirt-is-sexist |
| 15:18.42 | Jamash | There's no way to stop abilities from being auto-added to action bars when learned, right? |
| 15:22.29 | karl_w_w | realms are up |
| 15:22.39 | karl_w_w | remove them again Jamash? :P |
| 15:23.10 | Jamash | karl_w_w: unhelpful |
| 15:25.25 | karl_w_w | why |
| 15:30.05 | VIad | if Farlooh WAS shipped with WoD what level range would it be and what purpose? |
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| 15:44.28 | Jamash | karl_w_w: that doesn't stop them from being added |
| 15:46.22 | karl_w_w | you're mistaken |
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| 16:59.44 | VIad | anyone know a place I can get the latest framexml? |
| 17:02.39 | Ressy | "We've posted a brief update as to where we are post maintenance. All realms now back up to normal population caps" |
| 17:02.44 | fewyn | https://twitter.com/Warcraft/statuses/533666122109702144 |
| 17:02.45 | fewyn | yay |
| 17:04.44 | Cairenn | ~framexml |
| 17:04.44 | purl | Blizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml. ExportInterfaceFiles code in the console |
| 17:06.09 | foxlit | gr, they put a gossip option on a pet tamer. |
| 17:06.38 | Fisker | :o |
| 17:10.05 | VIad | foxlit: there is a new gossip frame type of button called QuestTitleButton# |
| 17:10.17 | VIad | but the gossipframe.lua in tekkub github is 4 months old |
| 17:10.20 | VIad | and I can't find it :( |
| 17:10.53 | Semlar | objectives tracker addon? |
| 17:14.58 | VIad | no |
| 17:15.00 | VIad | gossip frame |
| 17:15.02 | VIad | quest related |
| 17:15.09 | VIad | where you click to accept/deliover quests |
| 17:15.17 | VIad | new form of quest code appeared :p |
| 17:15.35 | VIad | some few npcs had quests on the menu but the normal GetGossipAvailableQuests() didn't return anythjing |
| 17:15.36 | VIad | so it was odd |
| 17:16.26 | Semlar | what npc has this |
| 17:17.10 | Semlar | i've been questing and haven't run into anything that my addon hasn't automatically clicked through yet |
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| 17:21.14 | Semlar | if they're actually called QuestTitleButton# then the template is using SelectActiveQuest or SelectAvailableQuest when you click it |
| 17:21.22 | Semlar | which isn't new |
| 17:22.19 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.48 | VIad | HMM |
| 17:28.53 | VIad | then it's really odd |
| 17:29.16 | VIad | I must research! to the lab! |
| 17:46.10 | Jamash | grrr, khadgar blackrock quarry cutscene bugged out |
| 17:46.52 | zenzelezz | it's a Khardgard life |
| 17:47.04 | zenzelezz | -r |
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| 17:49.07 | Jamash | youtube'd it |
| 17:50.53 | zenzelezz | so... sometimes in World of Tanks, people rage at you for playing an artillery even if your shell lands 50 meters away. Other times you can one-shot full-health tanks twice in a battle and no-one says anything (in global chat at least) |
| 17:51.04 | Gnarfoz | wI wonder if that population cap thing also applies for EU |
| 17:52.37 | g0urra | it does |
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| 18:20.05 | cbreak | yay, level 91! |
| 18:20.20 | cbreak | finally. |
| 18:20.56 | cbreak | after being bugged, haning in queues, not being able to enter the garrison, beign disconnected, and having unplaned and planed server restarts... |
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| 18:59.09 | kd3 | oh wow. HL2's 10th anniversary is tomorrow |
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| 19:22.11 | fewyn | weren't daily cooldowns supposed to stack up to 3 times or something? or did they scrap that |
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| 20:18.01 | zenzelezz | meh, netsplits |
| 20:18.02 | zenzelezz | simply browsing the webshop isn't doing me much good. Someone recommend a decent 5/7.1 headset, wired (3.5 mm, no USB) |
| 20:20.37 | Iriel | Theyâre not 5/7.1 but Iâm happy with my Sennheiser PC 360 |
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| 20:21.16 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: Mic? |
| 20:21.39 | Iriel | Looks like the PC363D has surround |
| 20:21.40 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: preferable, but I can use a separate one |
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| 20:23.38 | zenzelezz | I used to use a Psyko Carbon, which was nice, but weighed roughly 3000 kg, and whose mic port bugged out |
| 20:24.26 | Thunder_Child | That is a silly looking headset |
| 20:24.45 | zenzelezz | absolutely |
| 20:25.09 | Thunder_Child | Personally I use an AKG k240 mkII |
| 20:25.19 | Thunder_Child | But then I don't need anything fancy. |
| 20:25.21 | zenzelezz | the sound was very nice, but I wouldn't say it was worth the money. Got them because a colleague kept singing its praises |
| 20:26.56 | zenzelezz | the special part (supposedly) about the Carbon was that the box thing inbetween the PC and headset did calculations to adjust the timing of the sound based on where it should. Never quite felt the difference from a normal one |
| 20:26.59 | Arrowmaster | i have a bucket of frogs from the pond and i dont know what to do with them |
| 20:27.09 | Arrowmaster | neighbor said i cant put them in his pool with the fish |
| 20:29.55 | Thunder_Child | Release them? |
| 20:30.59 | Thunder_Child | Or better yet, don't take them in the first place. |
| 20:31.36 | Ressy | Seriously... I got Kaelten into ingress at blizzcon, and he's caught up to me in levels. |
| 20:35.56 | Torhal | Ressy: That's what happens when you can drive around on a whim. |
| 20:36.08 | Torhal | He probably hacks portals at drivethroughs. |
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| 20:37.18 | Ressy | helps I guess that I'd take out a portal at blizzcon, and he |
| 20:37.27 | Ressy | err, he'd put his resonators on it and claim it |
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| 21:17.18 | Primer | Anyone else using Combuctor? Trade bags don't update when things go in/out of them |
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| 22:00.02 | VIad | http://ss.bool.no/capture_1416088778.png |
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| 22:40.45 | Ressy | wow.. |
| 22:40.48 | Ressy | latest update |
| 22:40.50 | Ressy | "After carefully monitoring server performance for the last few hours, we are now testing raising realm capacity above normal population caps. Weâre going to temporarily increase the population cap on a few realms in North America, and observe them closely. Our next update will be in approximately an hour." |
| 22:41.12 | Ressy | off the cuff fix, resulting in higher pops.. probably permanently. not bad |
| 22:41.26 | Constie_ | Neat. |
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| 23:28.59 | znf | wow |
| 23:29.01 | znf | leveling professions is a bitch |
| 23:29.18 | Ressy | cooking isn't so bad provided you fish like crazy |
| 23:29.50 | znf | I'm looking at Tailoring and Engineering |
| 23:29.57 | Stanzilla | so far I havent even found a reason to level them |
| 23:30.04 | znf | more daily reagents? |
| 23:30.12 | Stanzilla | meh |
| 23:30.13 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 23:30.14 | znf | ie: tailoring lvl700 crafts up to 10x Hexwave instead of 1 |
| 23:30.46 | znf | questing is - and I have no idea how to do that math - is it worth wasting mats early on skillups or save it up for gear? |
| 23:31.25 | znf | question* |
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