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| 00:10.39 | Semlar | bites neffi |
| 00:19.09 | Neffi | twitches |
| 00:25.45 | Kesava | so draenor is marked as flyable with IsFlyableZone or whatever that function is |
| 00:25.58 | Kesava | and i have no idea how to work out if the player can actually fly |
| 00:26.14 | Kesava | since all mounts are usable whenever now |
| 00:26.34 | Kesava | and the button is a c function |
| 00:29.56 | Thunder_Child | I think foxlit was bitching about that the other day. |
| 00:29.58 | Kesava | strangely enough azeroth isn't marked as flyable by IsFlyableArea when you don't have the skill to fly there |
| 00:30.02 | Kesava | so yeah i guess it's a bug |
| 00:30.04 | Kesava | siiigh |
| 00:31.56 | Kesava | i could integrate it with the favourites function but that removes my ability to also use spells as mounts (like travel form) |
| 00:32.21 | Kesava | or maybe i could chain them together. i don't know. |
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| 00:32.23 | Kesava | silly workaround. |
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| 00:37.52 | Semlar | wait how are you in draenor to check this |
| 00:38.28 | Dagmar | Test server? |
| 00:38.40 | Semlar | they took the beta down |
| 00:38.44 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 00:48.28 | Kesava | well i tested it while the beta was up |
| 00:51.51 | Dagmar | I suppose this means all my followers are dead. |
| 00:51.56 | Dagmar | Good. |
| 00:52.27 | Dagmar | It serves them right for the number of times I sent them on missions and then five minutes later see them lollygagging around the fortress still. |
| 00:52.41 | Dagmar | It's no bloody wonder it takes them an hour and a half to go kill a rhino. |
| 00:59.55 | zenzelezz | followers? |
| 01:22.57 | Semlar | slaves |
| 01:23.30 | zenzelezz | I see |
| 01:23.45 | zenzelezz | it's silly, but whenever I hear "followers", I think Twitter |
| 01:24.02 | zenzelezz | I guess you're a "follower" on Twitch too, unless you subscribe |
| 01:24.50 | zenzelezz | I wish people would get "follower" vs. "subscriber" right on Twitch |
| 01:25.03 | zenzelezz | because there's a HUGE difference between 1000 followers and 1000 subscribers |
| 01:26.14 | zenzelezz | don't know the exact numbers, but I believe it's a $5000/month difference |
| 01:58.21 | Primer | Is there a way to cancel my pet's wrathstorm? |
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| 03:21.53 | Krevan | Anyone alive? I have a question. |
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| 03:23.53 | bluspacecow | sorry all undead here |
| 03:24.22 | Krevan | Just wondering how to make an addon read from multiple files. Like a core file that reads from others with all the data. |
| 03:25.01 | Krevan | I tried searching that and can't find anything, so that's why I am asking here. :( |
| 03:25.17 | jleclanche | Krevan: you cant access the filesystem if that's what you're asking |
| 03:25.47 | jleclanche | Krevan: addon "files" are loaded from the .toc |
| 03:26.02 | Krevan | No I mean like with some addons like DBM how they can have the core and then the instances/expansions are in separate files. |
| 03:26.12 | Xuerian | Load the support files first, write to the namespace, load the core last. Unless you mean actually read files, in which case ^ |
| 03:26.48 | jleclanche | Krevan: like split an addon into multiple addons? |
| 03:27.21 | jleclanche | cause afaik thats how dbm does it. its just a bunch of addons depending on each other |
| 03:27.48 | Krevan | Okay. I guess I'm not really sure how to explain it. I'm extremely new to writing addons, so I don't really know what I am doing. |
| 03:28.43 | Krevan | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/wherezit/ <<< thats my addon, i want it to have the main core in one file, and then each type of gathering material in a different file... Herbs/Ores/Skins/Cloth etc... |
| 03:28.43 | Xuerian | Then might you not want to just start on an addon and then worry about splitting it up later? (Perhaps when you rewrite it after learning what you're doing) |
| 03:29.22 | Xuerian | Nevermind, you seem to be at that point. I'll just wander on to food and let jleclanche take care of you <.< |
| 03:29.39 | Krevan | Lol. |
| 03:30.00 | bluspacecow | you at the con Xuerian ? |
| 03:30.19 | Xuerian | bluspacecow: If the con is in my room and includes really lackluster microwave popcorn then yes |
| 03:30.45 | Xuerian | As always you might also be thinking of Xinhuan |
| 03:30.51 | bluspacecow | giggity |
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| 03:33.35 | Xuerian | Well since I seem to have overtyped j, Krevan, it can be as simple as adding a value to your namespace from a file that gets loaded before the last one, if you're just splitting it up for structure and not so it can all be loaded separately. (Which is a similar process, but involves making separate addons and managing your loading process a bit differently) |
| 03:34.39 | Krevan | So I do what I am thinking of making all the different types (herb ore etc.) into their own files and then put them all in the .toc and put the core file last and it should work? |
| 03:37.06 | Xuerian | I haven't looked at your addon, I was going to get up. But (and here someone may want to stop me) when wow loads one of your lua files you're given the addon name and namespace (Just a table, really) via ... - so at the top you can go local name, addon = ... - then you have a table (addon) to use for your stuff. addon.herbs = {} and then later use addon.herbs. Super duper simple not best practices version there but that should be the idea. |
| 03:38.56 | Semlar | yap |
| 03:39.45 | Krevan | Hm. Still not sure, but I think I can figure it out from that and searching in google more. Thank you for the help. :) |
| 03:40.50 | Semlar | make herb.lua, put local _, addon = ... at the top |
| 03:41.01 | Semlar | in your toc file load herb.lua then core.lua |
| 03:41.44 | Semlar | you put the same text at the top of your core.lua file and the "addon" variable references the same table |
| 03:42.03 | Semlar | so anything you put into it in the herb file you can access from the core file |
| 04:02.40 | bluspacecow | soooo many cellphone movies being shot right now |
| 04:13.09 | Krevan | Sorry Semlar, I went to the store. I get what you guys were saying now though. Time to test it. Thanks :) |
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| 05:22.12 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.22 | bluspacecow | LOL |
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| 05:30.11 | Thunder_Child | He is 'still' a whales penis? |
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| 05:32.36 | Arrow|phone | On tv |
| 05:33.00 | Fisker | Hey Arrow|phone |
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| 05:44.42 | Jamash | Krevan, Xuerian, Semlar: There's no need to make your addon data private in most cases. So for example, Learning Aid has a line "local private, name = ..." at the top of each file, but also "local LA = LearningAid" and nearly all of my variables, tables and functions are in LA.thingy (global LearningAid.thingy) |
| 05:45.22 | Xuerian | Jamash: Didn't say anything about making them private, just using the namespace wow provides |
| 05:45.31 | Jamash | The only time I use the private table is when I'm doing shadowing gimmicks with metatables and there's no particular need for that. |
| 05:45.51 | Jamash | Xuerian: The namespace that WoW provides is a private namespace. |
| 05:46.15 | Semlar | there's no reason to make it global unless you want other addons to be able to access it |
| 05:46.28 | Jamash | It's not, technically speaking, a namespace at all. It's an anonymous, private table. |
| 05:46.51 | Xuerian | You're using the word "private" |
| 05:46.53 | Jamash | Semlar: There's no reason to make it private unless you want other addons to be unable to access it. |
| 05:47.06 | Semlar | no, every variable you make should be local |
| 05:47.24 | Semlar | the only time you should make a global variable is when you want something outside your addon to be able to access it |
| 05:47.30 | Jamash | For example, when debugging, I use LuaBrowser. If all of my data was in the private table, LuaBrowser couldn't access it. |
| 05:47.42 | Jamash | Semlar: I fundamentally disagree. |
| 05:48.09 | nebula169 | global namespace polluting is generally bad |
| 05:48.26 | Jamash | Which is why I use exactly two global variables, LearningAid and LearningAid_Saved |
| 05:48.50 | Semlar | for other addons to access.. |
| 05:48.54 | Jamash | No. |
| 05:49.13 | Jamash | 99% of the functions and data of the addon are in those tables |
| 05:49.44 | Xuerian | O_o |
| 05:50.04 | Jamash | This is how every addon I have ever read the source code of is designed |
| 05:50.23 | Jamash | You don't have to use the private table at all, and I don't recommend doing so unless there is a compelling reason |
| 05:51.07 | nebula169 | i disagree, it's a convenient way to share info among all the files of your addon, and if nothing else saves you a global lookup |
| 05:51.41 | Jamash | one global lookup per file? That's premature optimization if I ever heard of it |
| 05:52.09 | nebula169 | just for a lack of anything else |
| 05:52.17 | nebula169 | there's no benefit to making it global |
| 05:52.29 | Jamash | Yes there is. I can use Hack, LuaBrowser, etc on it |
| 05:52.39 | nebula169 | _G.MyAddon = private |
| 05:52.43 | Jamash | There's no benefit to making it private, and a significant disadvantage |
| 05:52.50 | Semlar | um yeah, so you're making it global so you can access it from other addons |
| 05:53.07 | Jamash | Or from /dump |
| 05:53.09 | Jamash | or /run |
| 05:53.25 | Jamash | I don't consider those to be "other addons" |
| 05:53.38 | Semlar | my bad, "outside the scope of your addon" |
| 05:53.52 | Semlar | let me just make sure i cover every possible interpretation |
| 05:53.55 | Jamash | Yes, global variables exist in order to have a shared scope |
| 05:54.01 | Jamash | You are technically correct. |
| 05:56.03 | Jamash | Private variables exist to hide information when there is a compelling reason that sharing that information is bad. The WoW UI is single-threaded, so concurrency is a non-issue. |
| 05:56.28 | Jamash | I don't know of any reason to hide an addon's state from other addons, except possibly paranoia. |
| 05:57.18 | nebula169 | as a general run, your default strategy for any sort of programming is to hide your internals unless there is a compelling reason to share them |
| 05:57.23 | nebula169 | s/run/rule/ |
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| 05:57.53 | nebula169 | in any case, it doesn't matter one way or another |
| 05:58.24 | Jamash | It actually does, because it's harder for you to debug your addon if you hide everything, and it's harder for other addon authors to debug interactions with your addon if you hide everything. |
| 05:59.46 | Jamash | It's also harder for end-users to create macros that alter the function of your addon in ways that are useful to them. |
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| 06:57.16 | Ironii | why would someone create a macro to alter the function in an addon |
| 06:57.53 | Ironii | if someone wants to alter a function, wouldn't it be alot easier to edit the code |
| 07:05.00 | bluspacecow | fot the LOLZ |
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| 07:21.18 | fewyn | http://time.com/3573045/doritos-flavored-mountain-dew-is-first-sign-of-impending-apocalypse/ |
| 07:22.50 | nebula169 | ew |
| 07:33.10 | Primer | It seems that chinchilla no longer controls the quest tracker? |
| 07:36.52 | Primer | This is bugging me so much...I want to move that crap and I can't! |
| 07:39.27 | nebula169 | this nev added moving it in quester |
| 07:39.29 | nebula169 | think* |
| 07:44.42 | Primer | I wonder if it was removed from chinchilla because it's no longer bound to the minimap |
| 07:44.52 | Primer | not sure if "bound" is the correct term |
| 07:45.42 | nebula169 | <Repo> chinchilla: EthanCentaurai master * v2.7-11-g4079134 (4 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 07:45.42 | nebula169 | <Repo> 4079134: Position: Removed options to move the objectives tracker, because conflicts. Please use Quester, MoveAnything, or rObjectiveTrackerMover instead. |
| 07:46.48 | Mr_Rabies | man, something is really broken with wow and surround sound right now |
| 07:47.10 | Mr_Rabies | a lot of sounds only play in one speaker at a time, no matter what |
| 07:47.22 | Mr_Rabies | but they'll oscillate between left and right at high speed and it's really grating |
| 07:47.36 | Primer | nebula169: I remember something about things being bound to the minimap requiring special attention to be moved, which was why using Move Anything didn't always work on such elements |
| 07:47.43 | Primer | I do have MA, so I'll try that. Thanks |
| 07:51.58 | Mr_Rabies | i know it's late AND during blizzcon still, but if anyone has tyrael's charger and a surround sound setup for WoW, lemme know, i want to test something |
| 08:05.59 | Ironii | Mr_Rabies problem might be with your own sound settings |
| 08:08.11 | Mr_Rabies | seems like it's an issue with Sound_ListenerAtCharacter 1 |
| 08:08.29 | Mr_Rabies | i set it to 0 then did a gxrestart and everything seems okay |
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| 08:40.57 | Mr_Rabies | why do i feel so squishy on my pally tank :| |
| 08:42.27 | nevcairiel | because pally |
| 08:54.02 | Mr_Rabies | doesn't make any sense :| |
| 08:54.10 | Mr_Rabies | pally tanks do awful dps, they can't also be awful tanks |
| 08:54.12 | Mr_Rabies | what the heck |
| 08:55.21 | Shirik | I get my new toy tomorrow :D |
| 08:55.26 | Shirik | new antenna for my cell phone |
| 08:55.39 | Shirik | we're going to see if I can get service in BFE |
| 08:55.47 | Fisker | Hey Shirik |
| 08:55.50 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 08:55.53 | Shirik | how was Blizzcon |
| 08:56.05 | Fisker | Cairenn hugged me more times than you went to work last week |
| 08:56.06 | Xuerian | Primer: Apparently the current quest tracker breaks if you look at it wrong |
| 08:56.20 | Fisker | Didn't you work for Boeing? |
| 09:01.55 | jleclanche | Fisker: were you at blizzcon? |
| 09:03.01 | Shirik | yes why |
| 09:03.09 | Shirik | that doesn't mean I get a free airplane |
| 09:03.14 | Fisker | Met a guy working for Boeing |
| 09:03.25 | Fisker | How I met your father |
| 09:03.54 | Fisker | Yeah jleclanche |
| 09:03.59 | jleclanche | why. |
| 09:04.06 | nevcairiel | i know a couple guys who work for airbus, they always make fun of how badly constructed boeing airplanes are, like the electrical wiring supposedly is all over the place |
| 09:04.43 | Fisker | Because free hugs jleclanche |
| 09:05.27 | jleclanche | eh. |
| 09:05.50 | jleclanche | nevcairiel: my sister works at air france. they make fun of their accounting system there. |
| 09:05.56 | Fisker | Sometimes free kisses as well |
| 09:06.29 | Shirik | to be fair nevcairiel I don't work on anything that competes with them |
| 09:06.36 | jleclanche | Fisker: yikes. |
| 09:06.39 | Shirik | my stuff is tiny compared to theirs |
| 09:07.19 | nevcairiel | Fisker: did you have tequillaz with Kaelten |
| 09:07.26 | jleclanche | [10:06:39] <Shirik> my stuff is tiny compared to theirs |
| 09:07.28 | jleclanche | \o/ |
| 09:07.31 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:07.35 | Shirik | :/ |
| 09:07.41 | Fisker | No Kaelten was late to the party |
| 09:07.56 | Fisker | Also I don't drink alcohol mostly |
| 09:09.15 | Fisker | Also pass out time |
| 09:12.36 | Mr_Rabies | i did find out a trick for messing with jerks that keep pulling for me in dungeons |
| 09:12.47 | Mr_Rabies | just turn off righteous fury |
| 09:22.55 | karl_w_w | just switch to dps Mr_Rabies |
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| 09:33.51 | airtonix | oculus rift just means i have to make an effort to look behind me now... such a drag |
| 09:43.45 | Mr_Rabies | turn your fov up to a billion and vomit everywhere as a result |
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| 09:59.53 | airtonix | don't be mad Mr_Rabies, you're not programming in csharp |
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| 10:00.19 | Mr_Rabies | why are you programming inside an oculus rift, and why do you need to look behind you while doing so |
| 10:00.29 | airtonix | who said i was programming |
| 10:00.39 | airtonix | you really suck at science |
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| 14:29.49 | Neffi | go to sleep Semlar |
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| 16:14.58 | Jamash | sup peeps |
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| 18:19.23 | Shirik | I just got a package delivered by USPS on a sunday o.o |
| 18:24.05 | Fisker | Hi Shirik |
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| 18:25.33 | Neffi | Shirik: what a time to be alive |
| 18:25.46 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 18:25.57 | Shirik | Neffi: it was also delivered by someone driving a USPS truck but not wearing a USPS uniform |
| 18:25.59 | Shirik | I am confused |
| 18:26.21 | Neffi | don't open it shirik |
| 18:26.41 | Fisker | I met a guy at Boeing Shirik |
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| 18:26.52 | Shirik | you told me Fisker |
| 18:27.26 | Fisker | Yeah I know |
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| 19:28.11 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/7CprWrN |
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| 19:56.48 | Neffi | foxlit: Globe should mark a template used if it's part of a call like: myauraheader:SetAttribute('template','myTemplate') |
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| 20:06.54 | Kesava | so is lock trading intended or what |
| 20:07.05 | Kesava | because it's terrible and it seems like something they really wouldn't usually do |
| 20:09.06 | Kesava | apparently it's been like that the whole expansion. so maybe it isn't that bad. |
| 20:09.32 | Kesava | but all of a sudden "wts garrosh lock 2098924k" |
| 20:09.45 | Kesava | ok more like 1k but still. |
| 20:10.32 | Neffi | you mean like a raid lock? |
| 20:10.38 | Kesava | yes |
| 20:11.28 | Neffi | yeah that's kinda shitty |
| 20:11.58 | Jamash | it's not a big deal, the only reason it's happening now is the 100% drop rate on the garrosh boa |
| 20:13.05 | nevcairiel | happened before on normal mode too, because people were too lazy to do full runs |
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| 20:22.48 | fewyn | hi |
| 20:22.54 | fewyn | blizzcon was great |
| 20:23.38 | Thunder_Child | As far as I know, it's not over yet. |
| 20:25.22 | fewyn | today is decompress day before i go back to dallas tomorrow |
| 20:25.34 | mikma | someone, tell me a name for my inventory-marking addon: http://mikma.reaktio.net/wow/WoWScrnShot_110914_214252.jpg |
| 20:26.02 | mikma | inv-a-mark |
| 20:26.16 | Thunder_Child | tag-it? |
| 20:26.35 | mikma | tag-it would be nice because i have PostIt already |
| 20:28.18 | Thunder_Child | also possibly label-it |
| 20:28.23 | Thunder_Child | or so |
| 20:28.47 | Thunder_Child | If you ever do one for purchasing things you could make it 'mark-it' |
| 20:28.54 | mikma | Darude - Label This - 08 - Label This.mp3 |
| 20:28.56 | mikma | lolz |
| 20:29.44 | Constie | Name it "Darude - Sandstorm". |
| 20:29.58 | tz | oh THAT'S what it's called |
| 20:31.19 | mikma | heh, english to latin is awesome -> mark it -> Notabit |
| 20:33.56 | Thunder_Child | well first part would be note = mark |
| 20:34.29 | Thunder_Child | not sure etymology of 'abit.' |
| 20:35.22 | Thunder_Child | Also seem to have forgotten a few words there. |
| 20:37.56 | tz | anybody got any idea why icons in AceConfig dialog dropdowns randomly don't turn up after consecutive reloadui's, changing around each time? they show up in the actual dropdown itself, but not after being selected |
| 20:42.53 | tz | that said I randomly get textures not turning up in-game anyway |
| 20:42.54 | tz | hmmmmm |
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| 20:45.30 | tz | mmm, fine with dx9, dx11 seems to be triggering it |
| 20:45.32 | tz | weird |
| 20:48.56 | tz | ok, I spoke too soon, dx9 doing it too |
| 20:48.58 | tz | ho hum |
| 20:51.40 | mikma | your gfx card has been fried |
| 20:58.19 | tz | doubtful, it's the only issue I have with wow atm, and I've noticed no issue with any other games |
| 21:12.23 | kullervo | I've been getting missing textures as well since 6.0 |
| 21:12.59 | kullervo | mikma: how does your gnome _not_ look super terrifying? |
| 21:13.39 | tz | good reload: https://i.imgur.com/1xhd9wb.png | bad reload: https://i.imgur.com/VQpTlTV.png |
| 21:13.42 | tz | annoying as hell |
| 21:14.06 | mikma | kullervo: err, the terrifying gear is in the bank. yeah... |
| 21:14.25 | kullervo | mikma: it's not the gear that makes them terrifying |
| 21:14.31 | tz | the icons show up fine in the dropdowns themselves, but not after selection |
| 21:14.32 | tz | ugh |
| 21:14.43 | mikma | kullervo: the terrifying face is in the barbershop.. yeaaaah :D |
| 21:14.50 | kullervo | after the WoD patch I checked my alliance server and was like "Nope, nope nope nope *deletes character*" |
| 21:15.00 | mikma | kullervo: you can change faces in the barbershop now |
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| 21:26.16 | mikma | hiya tulla |
| 21:28.56 | Tuller | hello |
| 21:37.48 | Industrial | Is there still a Database addon for auctioneer that allows me to load a common market price data set? |
| 21:38.01 | Industrial | (and a site collecting data on all the reams?) |
| 21:40.12 | Neffi | Industrial: Apparently The Undermine Journal is back up (is a good thing!) and I think there's an addon for that, yes |
| 21:40.26 | Neffi | for TUJ's dataset I mean |
| 21:42.54 | Neffi | I can't find an up to date version of TUJ's addon or the Auc plugin for it, though. Might not be |
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| 21:53.35 | Industrial | http://stormspire.net/official-forum-undermine-journal/15527-addon-beta-testing.html |
| 21:59.18 | Shirik | today's top headline in my news feed: "American Freed by North Korea Wanted Pizza" |
| 21:59.56 | Shirik | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI3DlIrvoHg |
| 22:19.25 | MiRai | Semlar: He explicitly asked people not to troll the lawsuit thread! |
| 22:19.31 | MiRai | stop your logic trolling immediately |
| 22:19.35 | MiRai | ;) |
| 22:19.37 | Semlar | no |
| 22:19.51 | Semlar | this is absurd |
| 22:20.09 | MiRai | heh |
| 22:24.09 | Constie | If the person who made that thread with that title doesn't want a flamefest and a locked thread to happen, that is some poor judgement. |
| 22:25.08 | Semlar | i'm gonna be honest i didn't actually read the post, there were a lot of words |
| 22:25.30 | Constie | I've never actually read any post that I've replied to. |
| 22:26.13 | Semlar | i feel that reading poisons the mind |
| 22:30.22 | Semlar | they should be happy that a blizzard rep hasn't come in and immediately told them they weren't going to revert the macro change because it indicates that they're actually thinking about possible alternatives |
| 22:30.28 | Constie | Actually pretty true in the case of the WoW forums. |
| 22:36.08 | Semlar | one thing i've learned from writing my sequencer addon is that there's an entire website dedicated to writing one-button macros to play the game for you |
| 22:36.52 | Semlar | and it comes up when you google my addon |
| 22:37.06 | tz | link? |
| 22:37.15 | Semlar | just google gnome sequencer |
| 22:37.52 | Semlar | it's called "wowlazymacros.com" |
| 22:38.23 | tz | heh |
| 22:41.23 | Constie | To me personally an involved DPS rotation is its own reward, and if mashing one button for 10 minutes is more fun for other people then yeah, sure, let them do that and also do good DPS with it, go nuts. For all I care it can be better DPS than the manual way; I'll get raid invites regardless. |
| 22:42.06 | Semlar | some of these people appear to be incapable of actually playing the game |
| 22:42.17 | Semlar | i wonder what their motivation is |
| 22:43.01 | Constie | Shooting dragons is cool and they have fun doing stuff with friends, even if they're not good at it on any level, I guess? |
| 22:44.29 | foxlit | Raiding is clearly too boring, must be able to spam one button while watching Netflix in an overlay, |
| 22:44.40 | Semlar | i think foxlit has it |
| 22:47.04 | foxlit | fwiw, my impression is that the silence is not indicative of consideration, but is rather the standard mode of (non-)communication. |
| 22:47.50 | Semlar | well, there's also no benefit to them from responding |
| 22:47.57 | foxlit | "We're busy with actual issues, please go away" sort of thing. |
| 22:49.08 | Semlar | if they respond with a confirmation they did, in fact, intend to remove the code that they removed, people will get angry, if they don't respond, people will probably actually be less angry because they don't know for sure |
| 22:49.28 | Constie | If only someone had asked about it at the Q&A panel. |
| 22:49.50 | MiRai | People were more worried about the drop percentage on the HH mount and when they were going to nerf Arms. |
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| 22:53.41 | foxlit | Probably not a reasonable q&a question anyway - you'd spend the first five minutes explaining this zero business, and the response would be predictable and evasive. |
| 22:56.06 | Semlar | did you see my message about what os.tmpname was actually returning |
| 22:58.23 | foxlit | Probably, though I don't recall the actual answer. I remember you replacing it with a different implementation. What did it actually return? |
| 22:59.45 | Semlar | it generates a filename with 3 characters that it increments from 0-9 and then a-v until all 3 get to v and then it starts generating weird characters at which point the filename becomes invalid |
| 23:01.35 | Semlar | i just replaced it with essentially math.random and checks for if the name it generates already exists |
| 23:01.44 | Semlar | which is probably not terribly efficient |
| 23:01.58 | Semlar | but at least it works |
| 23:02.39 | Semlar | dinner time though, 23 skidoo! |
| 23:03.51 | foxlit | Maybe I should reuse them, but I'm unclear regarding what uniqueness guarantees that API provides in the first place. |
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| 23:05.52 | foxlit | (and possibly how to defer os.remove until process termination, but ensuring that those files don't persist for an eternity might be tricky) |
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